Kyrie agrees to max deal...

[apalisoc_9]

:lol

I guess this means if kawhi gets a max deal it would be the same amount of money...5/90.

[Darkwaters]

Wow...not worth it.

[DesignatedT]

Free agent thread.

[Mel_13]

Too much for him, but the franchise didn't have much choice.

[Mugen]

Nobody's taking discounts to stay in Cleveland tbh.

[Kamnik]

Dragič earns 7,5mil a year :D :D :D

Kyrie = OVERRATED

[PingPong]

CAVS...

:D

[Mel_13]

Dragič earns 7,5mil a year :D :D :D

Kyrie = OVERRATED

Dragic gonna get paid next summer.

[Kamnik]

Dragic gonna get paid next summer.

How much? 50 million a year?
If Kyrie Fucking Irving gets max... :D Cavs owner should just sell to someone in Seattle and be done with it....

[Ice009]

Dragic gonna get paid next summer.

How many years did Dragic sign for? or does he have an opt out?

[Texas_Ranger]

How many years did Dragic sign for? or does he have an opt out?

he has a player option next year. He will opt out and sign for at leat 12M a year if he can play like he did this year.

[Chinook]

He'll probably be eligible for the Rose Max too. Idiotic.

[cjw]

Kyrie is also subject to the Rose rule - that contract will be bumped up to 30% of the cap after next season as opposed to 25%, as he'll undoubtedly be voted in as an All Star starter. Sucks even more to be the Cavs.

Right now, at 25% of $63.2mm (current cap), it's a 5 year / $90mm deal starting at $15.8mm. Assuming the cap doesn't change, at 30% it becomes 5 year / $110mm starting at $19.0mm. HUGE DIFFERENCE.

If I am the Cavs, I'm stuffing the ballot box for every other guard in the East (Rose / Wall / Wade / Rondo). The rest of the league should sabotage Dan Gilbert and just give Kyrie the nod.


He'll probably be eligible for the Rose Max too. Idiotic.
Beat me to it, per usual

[Ice009]

What's this Rose rule about? Can his contract change and go up higher even after he has signed it?

[Chinook]

Kyrie is also subject to the Rose rule - that contract will be bumped up to 30% of the cap after next season as opposed to 25%, as he'll undoubtedly be voted in as an All Star starter. Sucks even more to be the Cavs.

Right now, at 25% of $63.2mm (current cap), it's a 5 year / $90mm deal starting at $15.8mm. Assuming the cap doesn't change, at 30% it becomes 5 year / $110mm starting at $19.0mm. HUGE DIFFERENCE.

If I am the Cavs, I'm stuffing the ballot box for every other guard in the East (Rose / Wall / Wade / Rondo). The rest of the league should sabotage Dan Gilbert and just give Kyrie the nod.


Beat me to it, per usual

Pretty much. But note that the cap is counted a little differently max deals. In reality, "25 percent" means about 22 percent, and "30 percent"means about 27 percent.

[Chinook]

What's this Rose rule about? Can his contract change and go up higher even after he has signed it?

Yes, provided he put the necessary clause in it. Remember, his deal only says it's for the max. There aren't any actual numbers in it. The media is just estimating when they say, $90 Million.

[will_spurs]

What's this Rose rule about? Can his contract change and go up higher even after he has signed it?

Yup, the max is 25% of cap, but turns into 30% of cap is the player is MVP or 2x All-Star starter or (something else: 2x All-NBA?) by the end of his rookie contract.

[will_spurs]

Yes, provided he put the necessary clause in it.

I thought it was in the new CBA and applicable for all players on rookie contracts.

[Chinook]

I thought it was in the new CBA and applicable for all players on rookie contracts.

No. You need to negotiate for it. That's why George is only getting 27 percent next year instead of 30.

[cjw]

Thank god the Rose rule doesn't apply to Finals MVPs, otherwise Kawhi may need to tone it down next June.

[will_spurs]

No. You need to negotiate for it. That's why George is only getting 27 percent next year instead of 30.

Oh. I thought the 27% was like a rounding down of the 30% due to taxes and other side effects.

[will_spurs]

No. You need to negotiate for it. That's why George is only getting 27 percent next year instead of 30.

Oh, I thought you meant in the rookie contract. It's unclear according to the Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap#.22Derrick_Rose.22_Rule) whether all the Designated Players automatically qualify for the 30% max contract in case they fulfill the criteria, or whether they have to add it to their Designated Player contract.

However the Wikpedia entry clearly says that Paul has qualified for the 30%/5y max contract (via 2x All-NBA selection), not 27%.

[Chinook]

Oh. I thought the 27% was like a rounding down of the 30% due to taxes and other side effects.

Nope. You're right that "30 percent" is actually about 27 percent of the cap. But they don't mean that. They mean "27 percent" as actually 24 percent of the cap.

[Chinook]

Oh, I thought you meant in the rookie contract. It's unclear according to the Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap#.22Derrick_Rose.22_Rule) whether all the Designated Players automatically qualify for the 30% max contract in case they fulfill the criteria, or whether they have to add it to their Designated Player contract.

However the Wikpedia entry clearly says that Paul has qualified for the 30%/5y max contract (via 2x All-NBA selection), not 27%.
He qualified for it, but he didn't get it, because he negotiated for 27 percent. Essentially, all players automatically qualify of they meet the criteria, but they don't automatically get it.

[Chinook]

http://grantland.com/features/paul-george-commitment-improvement-pacers-thinking-nba-title/


The two sides struck an interesting compromise, according to several sources who have seen George’s deal: If George makes an All-NBA team this season, triggering the raise, his salary will settle at 27 percent of the cap level, instead of the full 30 percent. That would set George’s starting salary at about $15.8 million, given the league’s projected cap for next season. That’s about $1.75 million less than George could have earned had he fought for the full 30 percent.

[Chinook]

Also, from the CBA FAQ:


The salary in the first year of an extension to a rookie scale contract for a team's Designated Player must be the player's maximum salary. If the player has also met the 5th Year 30% Max criteria, the player's salary may be any amount between the 0-6 year maximum and the 7-9 year maximum.

[apalisoc_9]

:lmao

I hope to God they suck in the next 932523984572398570293457290345 years...I hate idiot teams like these that can't propely evaualute their own's talent potential..

[SupremeGuy]

Only thing that sucks about this is how it affects Kawhi's contract situation...

I hope he doesn't see this shit and think the Spurs are gong to bend over too

[timtonymanu]

:lol looks like another lottery year for the Cavs