Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 29
  1. #1
    Klaw apalisoc_9's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Post Count
    24,488


    I guess this means if kawhi gets a max deal it would be the same amount of money...5/90.

  2. #2
    Vegas Strong Darkwaters's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Post Count
    7,706
    Wow...not worth it.

  3. #3
    Five. DesignatedT's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    20,362
    Free agent thread.

  4. #4
    Veteran Mel_13's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Post Count
    14,367
    Too much for him, but the franchise didn't have much choice.

  5. #5
    R.C. Deez Nuts. Mugen's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Post Count
    23,765
    Nobody's taking discounts to stay in Cleveland tbh.

  6. #6
    Dragic to Spurs!!! Kamnik's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Post Count
    2,209
    Dragič earns 7,5mil a year

    Kyrie = OVERRATED

  7. #7
    Veteran PingPong's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Post Count
    2,650
    CAVS...


  8. #8
    Veteran Mel_13's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Post Count
    14,367
    Dragič earns 7,5mil a year

    Kyrie = OVERRATED
    Dragic gonna get paid next summer.

  9. #9
    Dragic to Spurs!!! Kamnik's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Post Count
    2,209
    Dragic gonna get paid next summer.
    How much? 50 million a year?
    If Kyrie ing Irving gets max... Cavs owner should just sell to someone in Seattle and be done with it....

  10. #10
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Post Count
    18,794
    Dragic gonna get paid next summer.
    How many years did Dragic sign for? or does he have an opt out?

  11. #11
    Defense Wins Championships Texas_Ranger's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Post Count
    13,364
    How many years did Dragic sign for? or does he have an opt out?
    he has a player option next year. He will opt out and sign for at leat 12M a year if he can play like he did this year.

  12. #12
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    32,115
    He'll probably be eligible for the Rose Max too. Idiotic.

  13. #13
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Post Count
    5,544
    Kyrie is also subject to the Rose rule - that contract will be bumped up to 30% of the cap after next season as opposed to 25%, as he'll undoubtedly be voted in as an All Star starter. Sucks even more to be the Cavs.

    Right now, at 25% of $63.2mm (current cap), it's a 5 year / $90mm deal starting at $15.8mm. Assuming the cap doesn't change, at 30% it becomes 5 year / $110mm starting at $19.0mm. HUGE DIFFERENCE.

    If I am the Cavs, I'm stuffing the ballot box for every other guard in the East (Rose / Wall / Wade / Rondo). The rest of the league should sabotage Dan Gilbert and just give Kyrie the nod.

    He'll probably be eligible for the Rose Max too. Idiotic.
    Beat me to it, per usual

  14. #14
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Post Count
    18,794
    What's this Rose rule about? Can his contract change and go up higher even after he has signed it?

  15. #15
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    32,115
    Kyrie is also subject to the Rose rule - that contract will be bumped up to 30% of the cap after next season as opposed to 25%, as he'll undoubtedly be voted in as an All Star starter. Sucks even more to be the Cavs.

    Right now, at 25% of $63.2mm (current cap), it's a 5 year / $90mm deal starting at $15.8mm. Assuming the cap doesn't change, at 30% it becomes 5 year / $110mm starting at $19.0mm. HUGE DIFFERENCE.

    If I am the Cavs, I'm stuffing the ballot box for every other guard in the East (Rose / Wall / Wade / Rondo). The rest of the league should sabotage Dan Gilbert and just give Kyrie the nod.


    Beat me to it, per usual
    Pretty much. But note that the cap is counted a little differently max deals. In reality, "25 percent" means about 22 percent, and "30 percent"means about 27 percent.

  16. #16
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    32,115
    What's this Rose rule about? Can his contract change and go up higher even after he has signed it?
    Yes, provided he put the necessary clause in it. Remember, his deal only says it's for the max. There aren't any actual numbers in it. The media is just estimating when they say, $90 Million.

  17. #17
    The 6th is coming... will_spurs's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    3,969
    What's this Rose rule about? Can his contract change and go up higher even after he has signed it?
    Yup, the max is 25% of cap, but turns into 30% of cap is the player is MVP or 2x All-Star starter or (something else: 2x All-NBA?) by the end of his rookie contract.

  18. #18
    The 6th is coming... will_spurs's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    3,969
    Yes, provided he put the necessary clause in it.
    I thought it was in the new CBA and applicable for all players on rookie contracts.

  19. #19
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    32,115
    I thought it was in the new CBA and applicable for all players on rookie contracts.
    No. You need to negotiate for it. That's why George is only getting 27 percent next year instead of 30.

  20. #20
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Post Count
    5,544
    Thank god the Rose rule doesn't apply to Finals MVPs, otherwise Kawhi may need to tone it down next June.

  21. #21
    The 6th is coming... will_spurs's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    3,969
    No. You need to negotiate for it. That's why George is only getting 27 percent next year instead of 30.
    Oh. I thought the 27% was like a rounding down of the 30% due to taxes and other side effects.

  22. #22
    The 6th is coming... will_spurs's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    3,969
    No. You need to negotiate for it. That's why George is only getting 27 percent next year instead of 30.
    Oh, I thought you meant in the rookie contract. It's unclear according to the Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_sa...k_Rose.22_Rule) whether all the Designated Players automatically qualify for the 30% max contract in case they fulfill the criteria, or whether they have to add it to their Designated Player contract.

    However the Wikpedia entry clearly says that Paul has qualified for the 30%/5y max contract (via 2x All-NBA selection), not 27%.

  23. #23
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    32,115
    Oh. I thought the 27% was like a rounding down of the 30% due to taxes and other side effects.
    Nope. You're right that "30 percent" is actually about 27 percent of the cap. But they don't mean that. They mean "27 percent" as actually 24 percent of the cap.

  24. #24
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    32,115
    Oh, I thought you meant in the rookie contract. It's unclear according to the Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_sa...k_Rose.22_Rule) whether all the Designated Players automatically qualify for the 30% max contract in case they fulfill the criteria, or whether they have to add it to their Designated Player contract.

    However the Wikpedia entry clearly says that Paul has qualified for the 30%/5y max contract (via 2x All-NBA selection), not 27%.
    He qualified for it, but he didn't get it, because he negotiated for 27 percent. Essentially, all players automatically qualify of they meet the criteria, but they don't automatically get it.

  25. #25
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    32,115
    http://grantland.com/features/paul-g...ing-nba- le/

    The two sides struck an interesting compromise, according to several sources who have seen George’s deal: If George makes an All-NBA team this season, triggering the raise, his salary will settle at 27 percent of the cap level, instead of the full 30 percent. That would set George’s starting salary at about $15.8 million, given the league’s projected cap for next season. That’s about $1.75 million less than George could have earned had he fought for the full 30 percent.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •