The media is ridiculously one sided on the Israel-Palestine conflict

[DD]

Cant ant find steady employment? Sure. My hours can be very odd, but I have been doing the same basic thing for my WHOLE life.
Although I do help tutor (volunteer) and have a really good sense of people who have an inferiority complex. Yep. I'm good at this because I work with a lot of bright people that don't feel that bright. And they show many of the same characteristics. I have to be able to judge this or I would not have a job in my area. Break thru the BS. We have the same goal. There is a job to be finished, I must stomp egos or soothe them.


So do all weaker people have no desire to work?
And what makes a person inferior?
And what is an SES?

Why do you ask so many bland questions you already know the answers to?

[DD]

Cant ant find steady employment? Sure. My hours can be very odd, but I have been doing the same basic thing for my WHOLE life.
Although I do help tutor (volunteer) and have a really good sense of people who have an inferiority complex. Yep. I'm good at this because I work with a lot of bright people that don't feel that bright. And they show many of the same characteristics. I have to be able to judge this or I would not have a job in my area. Break thru the BS. We have the same goal. There is a job to be finished, I must stomp egos or soothe them.


So do all weaker people have no desire to work?
And what makes a person inferior?
And what is an SES?

Why do you ask so many bland questions you already know the answers to?

[DD]

I wonder what DD's SES was growing up. He found it very easy to move to a third world warzone, seemingly all for money.

When you pay your own bills, you'll understand

[Shastafarian]

1. You asked why I would work out here and I answered--are you confused?, cause that statement made absolutely no sense in contextMy comment was directed at your assertion you did it all for money.


2. I'm not entering my mid-to-late 20's and still living off my parents' dime, like you are. You can rationalize not being your own man, though. I'm not married and don't have kids, so this is the perfect time in my life to do this kind of work. In fact I'd like to do contracting for another 10 years (in different parts of the world). It's easy money and a chance to go places.I'm not living off their dime. I receive a pay check and in a few years my debt will be repaid. You'd like to do contracting in other parts of the world yet you're in Afghanistan. Why is that?


3. In what situation would I freely invite a supervisor/co-worker or any person to view what I wrote on a message board--be it innocuous or hateful? "Hey boss, come look at my post!"--Do you realize what a stupid scenario that is you've constructed, you fucking mongoloid? Which is why I said, if there were any real problems with what I post I would've heard about it months ago.Well you would do it because you're proud of your thoughts aren't you? Are you ashamed of them? Why hide them? Why not make sure they see your comments so there is no question?


You're very slow on the uptake. Pretty clear Daddy won't see that money backSure. You know can you send me the info for getting a job over there? I'd love to be the boss of a bigot. :lol

[Shastafarian]

The best he has is from my own admission I owe debts to my parents. I'd be his boss and it makes him suuuuupppper salty.

[pgardn]

Why do you ask so many bland questions you already know the answers to?

Because you don't know the answer to them?
Or at least I don't know what your answers are.

Jesus...
Answer the Fkn questions Nazi.
Why is this so difficult? Especially if they are bland.

[Shastafarian]

When you pay your own bills, you'll understand

What was your ses growing up? Help me understand.

[Shastafarian]

How about this. I'll show you my pay stub so you can see how much I make. In return you give me your superior's name and contact information. I promise I will only copy and paste posts you have made (other posts if necessary for context). Deal?

[pgardn]

The best he has is from my own admission I owe debts to my parents. I'd be his boss and it makes him suuuuupppper salty.

Its the money thing and boss. Jabs breaking the nose.
Its really not a big deal, but it is to the enlightened Nazi who has life figured out.

[DD]

The best he has is from my own admission I owe debts to my parents. I'd be his boss and it makes him suuuuupppper salty.

Well, your Dad just forked over 6 figures for you to be making less than "a high school graduate." If you can't see the humor in that then who's salty? You saying you'd be my boss is conjecture--you're ill-equipt to lead anything when you can't even lead your own household:lol

[DD]

How about this. I'll show you my pay stub so you can see how much I make. In return you give me your superior's name and contact information. I promise I will only copy and paste posts you have made (other posts if necessary for context). Deal?

How about this...you show me a copy of your paystub and I'll show you mine

[Shastafarian]

It's not conjecture. I'm a doctor and you aren't. I'd be your boss.

[DD]

If you want my superiors information you'll have to give me yours first (and a way to verify it). Then I'll give you 2 different superiors

[Shastafarian]

How about this...you show me a copy of your paystub and I'll show you mine
I don't care how much you make. Truly I don't.

[DD]

It's not conjecture. I'm a doctor and you aren't. I'd be your boss.

Doctor of what, dumbass?

[Shastafarian]

Medicine what else

[DD]

I don't care how much you make. Truly I don't.

Sure you do...You're a doctor making less than what a "hs graduate" makes. It eats at you. God nows how it would eat at the old man if he knew:lol

[Shastafarian]

If you want my superiors information you'll have to give me yours first (and a way to verify it). Then I'll give you 2 different superiors
:lol like I would ever give a nazi that information. That's not the deal sorry

[DD]

Medicine what else

:lmaobullshit

[Shastafarian]

lol you're so salty. What makes this great is how wrong you are about me. Unlike you, money isn't my (or my father's) main concern in life.

So salty

[Shastafarian]

:lmaobullshit

I'd be your boss = saltiness

[DD]

:lol like I would ever give a nazi that information. That's not the deal sorry

Oh, so "you give me all your guys info and I'll give you nothing." You are devaluing your degree with each post, and now I strongly suspect you're just a broke LA major

[Shastafarian]

:lmaobullshit

I'd be your boss = saltiness

[DD]

Unlike you, money isn't my main concern in life.

Famous line of people who don't make good money:lol

What's next? Beauty is on the inside too, amirite?

[Shastafarian]

Oh, so "you give me all your guys info and I'll give you nothing." You are devaluing your degree with each post, and now I strongly suspect you're just a broke LA major

No see the deal is I give you something you want - proof I make less money than you. In return I can be boastful for you and show your superiors your advanced thoughts on ethnicity and religion. Why don't you want to show them? I don't understand!

[Shastafarian]

Also, please link me to where I can apply for jobs in your area.

[DD]

No see the deal is I give you something you want - proof I make less money than you.


I currently make less this is true

:lmao

[Shastafarian]

Yeah but don't you wanna see how much less? I figured that's what you wanted.


In return I can be boastful for you and show your superiors your advanced thoughts on ethnicity and religion. Why don't you want to show them? I don't understand!

[DD]

Also, please link me to where I can apply for jobs in your area.

Any of the construction/defense giants:

KBR, DI, Bechtel, etc etc. They don't hire greenies, but if you make it out of the comfort of daddeh's house and in some alternate universe you gain medical command despite no real patient contact/experience, I will gladly take a picture overseas with you holding up a sign that says "he's my boss."

Go get 'em boy

[Shastafarian]

Alright as much fun as this has been, and I might need to check my blood pressure from all the salt, I'm gonna get back on topic since you're not gonna agree to the deal.


Just remember....



























































I'd be your boss. :lol

[DD]

Yeah but don't you wanna see how much less? I figured that's what you wanted.

No, already know you make significantly less than me. You told me you make less and left it at that--which means you were ashamed enough not to admit the figure (you'd be a lousy poker player, btw).

:lolYou love going off on tangents (like the EMT supervisor bit) that have nothing to do with anything. Like the previous one, you'll lose steam on this one too, realize you were unfunny, and move on to the next diversionary tactic that takes the attention off your unfortunate plight of having to look up to a "a hs graduate."

[DD]

Alright as much fun as this has been, and I might need to check my blood pressure

I gave you the links, have at it. I also could teach you about blood pressure too since you clearly aren't medical:lol

[DD]

Any of the construction/defense giants:

KBR, DI, Bechtel, etc etc. They don't hire greenies, but if you make it out of the comfort of daddeh's house and in some alternate universe you gain medical command despite no real patient contact/experience, I will gladly take a picture overseas with you holding up a sign that says "he's my boss."

Go get 'em boy

btw, lemme know how this goes...and don't forget to tell me who the recruiter is that laughed at your Work Experience.

[Cry Havoc]

Hey, you asked. and you'll ask me again in a couple years when your still indebted to daddeh:lol

What kind of internet speed do you get there?

I'm rocking 60down/12up here. Mbps of course.

[pgardn]

Israel listened in on Kerry's phone.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/03/israel-spied-kerry-peace-effort-report

What are we going to stay, stop that...
And Der Speigel broke the story. Angela Merkel smerkels...

[Clipper Nation]

With how hard the board liberals try to paint conservatives as being "emotional," it's hilarious how they melt down at any prolonged questioning :lol

[DD]

What kind of internet speed do you get there?

I'm rocking 60down/12up here. Mbps of course.


I ain't tech savvy man--when we're in the clinic we're connected via ethernet and it's pretty damn fast. When Im in the CHU it's wi-fi named Sniperhill and it's damn-near dial-up slow at times.

[Shastafarian]

Israel listened in on Kerry's phone.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/03/israel-spied-kerry-peace-effort-report

What are we going to stay, stop that...
And Der Speigel broke the story. Angela Merkel smerkels...
Yikes. More bad press for Israel. Though we spy on ourselves so we can't really say shit about it.

[Shastafarian]

I hate keeping this thread off topic but I feel like I'm letting you off without getting an answer on why you don't want me to copy and paste your thoughts on ethnicity and religion to your superiors. Are you ashamed?


:lolYou love going off on tangents (like the EMT supervisor bit) that have nothing to do with anything. Like the previous one, you'll lose steam on this one too, realize you were unfunny, and move on to the next diversionary tactic that takes the attention off your unfortunate plight of having to look up to a "a hs graduate."What's the diversionary tactic? I keep asking you why you don't want me to inform your superiors of your views and you keep ignoring, diverting if you will.


I gave you the links, have at it. I also could teach you about blood pressure too since you clearly aren't medical:lolTeach me about sodium and osmotic pressure please.


btw, lemme know how this goes...and don't forget to tell me who the recruiter is that laughed at your Work Experience.I'd assume they would be grateful for applicants since it's Afghanistan. And I wasn't being forthcoming, I don't want to be your boss. But it's because you're in fucking Afghanistan. :lol

[Shastafarian]

Seriously if you're proud of your views and think they are just and reasonable, why can't I show them to your superiors?

[pgardn]

Yikes. More bad press for Israel. Though we spy on ourselves so we can't really say shit about it.

The timing of bringing this out is interesting since it happened in April.

And I find it more than amusing that a German paper broke the news considering we had spied on Angela Merkel's phone.
It may actually cut hostilities short once there are back room discussions. Israel might need to move quickly to destroy as many remaining tunnels as possible.

[DD]

I hate keeping this thread off topic, but
you badly want the last word after having your bluff called. You can't win now, you blew your chance.


What's the diversionary tactic? I keep asking you why you don't want me to inform your superiors of your views and you keep ignoring, diverting if you will.

You still don't get it, and you're hanging on to this for dear life despite your previous failings in this thread. Why would I offer up any post to my employer good or bad? What's the impetus for doing that? But, like I said earlier--give me your superiors information and Ill give you the same. You backed out of this deal before--must be because you're ashamed (underpaid doctor logic)

Teach me about sodium and osmotic pressure please.

So you're a doctor, yet you ask to be educated on a basic pathophysiology question that you could learn in high school.:rollin At least feign something quasi-challenging like "tell me how the potassium rectifier channels work" or some shit like that.

What medication would you give to new onset hypertensive pt (asymptomatic), 54 y/o Male, no PMHx? Give dose and frequency.

What medication would you give to that same pt if he were black? What other supplemental B/P medication could both these pt's receive and what dose?

This is a simple fucking question doc, don't let me down.






I'd assume they would be grateful for applicants since it's Afghanistan.
and this is why you are a woefully underpaid doctor compared to your contemporaries:lol

[Th'Pusher]

With how hard the board liberals try to paint conservatives as being "emotional," it's hilarious how they melt down at any prolonged questioning :lol
:lol the only one melting down here is DD with his my internet dick is bigger than yours shtick. Seriously. Dude's a fucking EMT who'd be lucky to make $40k in the US, so he works in the shithole ME so he can make 6 figures and that's something to brag about? He might as well be a truck driver in Iraq. :lol

[DD]

:lol the only one melting down here is DD with his my internet dick is bigger than yours shtick. Seriously. Dude's a fucking EMT who'd be lucky to make $40k in the US, so he works in the shithole ME so he can make 6 figures and that's something to brag about? He might as well be a truck driver in Iraq. :lol

^I can support your family better than you can. Marinate on that:lol

[Th'Pusher]

^I can support your family better than you can. Marinate on that:lol

:emo

[DD]

^says the liberal...you're adorable kiddo

[DD]

What medication would you give to new onset hypertensive pt (asymptomatic), 54 y/o Male, no PMHx? Give dose and frequency.

What medication would you give to that same pt if he were black? What other supplemental B/P medication could both these pt's receive and what dose?

Really...still no answer? You're a doctor, I'm just a lowly medic, and you will see these kind of patients more than any other in your practice (unless you're doing pediatrics). You really can't get a more common pt/case than this.

You've been in this thread since I first asked the question and by now you could've googled the answer(s).

Your father wasted his money.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol the only one melting down here is DD with his my internet dick is bigger than yours shtick. Seriously. Dude's a fucking EMT who'd be lucky to make $40k in the US, so he works in the shithole ME so he can make 6 figures and that's something to brag about? He might as well be a truck driver in Iraq. :lol

Seems to me that you're just very emotional that he makes more money than you :lol

[DD]

Btw, since our resident doctor can't figure out how to treat cookie-cutter B/P pt's, anyone else care to take a stab at the questions? It's honestly as easy as calling your old man and asking him what he takes for his BP.

[Shastafarian]

Really...still no answer? You're a doctor, I'm just a lowly medic, and you will see these kind of patients more than any other in your practice (unless you're doing pediatrics). You really can't get a more common pt/case than this.

You've been in this thread since I first asked the question and by now you could've googled the answer(s).

Your father wasted his money.I haven't been here actually. Don't lie.

Your question, first of all, is inherently flawed since the first line of treatment for those cases would be lifestyle changes like diet changes, exercise, among other things. But if you want medications I can tell you what I know:

The non-black male - Start with a thiazide diuretic like hydrochlorothiazide at 25-50mg QD; You can add in an ACE inhibitor (Lisonopril or Enalapril) or angiotensin receptor blocker, or a Calcium channel blocker. You can start with two different classes at once but I don't think I would in this case since beginning a medication might not even be indicated.

As for black males - Start on Calcium channel blockers like Amlodipine at 2.5 mg QD with the intent on getting to 10 mg QD. Also start on thiazide diuretic.

Now can I talk to your superior?

[Shastafarian]

You still don't get it, and you're hanging on to this for dear life despite your previous failings in this thread. Why would I offer up any post to my employer good or bad? What's the impetus for doing that?No I said I'd do it for you because you seem ashamed. Why do you not want me to show your superiors what you post?

But, like I said earlier--give me your superiors information and Ill give you the same. Like I said I'm not giving that info to a nazi

You backed out of this deal before--must be because you're ashamed (underpaid doctor logic)Huh? You said no to my deal. I never backed out of anything because as I said, I'm not giving that information to a nazi.



So you're a doctor, yet you ask to be educated on a basic pathophysiology question that you could learn in high school.:rollin At least feign something quasi-challenging like "tell me how the potassium rectifier channels work" or some shit like that.Well I was dumbing it down because you're an EMT. If you wanna talk about action potentials by all means. I know about this stuff but I'm asking you to show us all that YOU know about it.

[DD]

I haven't been here actually.

Yeah, you were. Everytime I checked back in here from the Bills thread your name was at the bottom--why would you lie about something so stupid and obvious that I just witnessed. At least make up some bullshit excuse like "I was eating dinner or away from the computer."

You had to read up on black pts and ACE inhibitors, that's what delayed you. At least own up to it--now you have something to share with your better-paid contemporaries. and yes, you managed to get the HCTZ right--although you had to read up on that too since you gave a dose range for it. Everybody gets 25 to start (it's an automatic), and docs will rarely up that dose without adjusting other meds first.

As for the Norvasc, good luck getting 2.5mg to affect anybody's BP. When you actually start seeing real pt's you'll find that 5mg is usually the bare minimum that'll work. You'll find yourself keeping them on the 25mg HCTZ and playing with either their Norvasc or Lisinopril (for whitey) doses.

After that if they're still hypertensive, we'll see if you have the stones to bring the heavy hitters out. Some of our doc's and PA's won't touch 'em, but they work every damn time given just 3 days of use.

[DD]

No I said I'd do it for you because you seem ashamed. Why do you not want me to show your superiors what you post?
Like I said I'm not giving that info to a nazi
Huh? You said no to my deal. I never backed out of anything because as I said, I'm not giving that information to a nazi.


Well I was dumbing it down because you're an EMT. If you wanna talk about action potentials by all means. I know about this stuff but I'm asking you to show us all that YOU know about it.

The burden is on you, doc. I'm just a medic with a high-school education I've heard.

As for your incessant superior crying, you don't get mine if I don't get yours. What's fair is fair.

[rogues]

Seems to me that you're just very emotional that he makes more money than you :lol
:lol I've noticed he's some little try-hard troll with extreme liberal views..he likes jumping in when the rest of the motley crew of libtards is circle jerking..probably that faggot Fuzzy's troll, tbh..

[Clipper Nation]

:lol I've noticed he's some little try-hard troll with extreme liberal views..he likes jumping in when the rest of the motley crew of libtards is circle jerking..probably that faggot Fuzzy's troll, tbh..

I've literally only ever seen him post in the Political Forum telling conservative posters that they're "being emotional".... I've never seen a basketball take or anything (intentionally) funny from Th'Faggot :lol

[pgardn]

Yeah, you were. Everytime I checked back in here from the Bills thread your name was at the bottom--why would you lie about something so stupid and obvious that I just witnessed. At least make up some bullshit excuse like "I was eating dinner or away from the computer."

You had to read up on black pts and ACE inhibitors, that's what delayed you. At least own up to it--now you have something to share with your better-paid contemporaries. and yes, you managed to get the HCTZ right--although you had to read up on that too since you gave a dose range for it. Everybody gets 25 to start (it's an automatic), and docs will rarely up that dose without adjusting other meds first.

As for the Norvasc, good luck getting 2.5mg to affect anybody's BP. When you actually start seeing real pt's you'll find that 5mg is usually the bare minimum that'll work. You'll find yourself keeping them on the 25mg HCTZ and playing with either their Norvasc or Lisinopril (for whitey) doses.

After that if they're still hypertensive, we'll see if you have the stones to bring the heavy hitters out. Some of our doc's and PA's won't touch 'em, but they work every damn time given just 3 days of use.

WTF are you trying to prove.
You got some lumber chip on your shoulder.

Is the board supposed to be impressed because you know your job?
You want me to blather on about some molecular biology or physics subject and integrate them making everyone completely bored and unimpressed. You want us all to go into our earnings? Shall we pretend to measure the circumference of our balls and take an average. Would you like me to tell you the exit velocity of your piss without a watch and two simple distance measurements? What is this crap...

So.

Israel has somehow read John Kerry's phone messages back in April during some important negotiations. Is it likely that Israel trumped up a lot of minor skirmishes because they knew it might be good timing to wound Hamas badly before the talks had a chance of going too well?

Anti Israeli folks, what do you say? Far fetched?

[pgardn]

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/israel-intelligence-eavesdropped-on-phone-calls-by-john-kerry-a-984246.html

Lets see if this has legs.
We should be hearing much more about this if our current administration has the guts.

[Th'Pusher]

I've literally only ever seen him post in the Political Forum telling conservative posters that they're "being emotional".... I've never seen a basketball take or anything (intentionally) funny from Th'Faggot :lol
CN in a pretty serious emotional tailspin. Dr Paul May need to intervene and revive this motherfucker.

[Jacob1983]

So how is Israel going to steal the natural gas or oil that's in the Gaza Strip?

[Clipper Nation]

emotional

^ There's that word again, the played-out schtick that comprises every single one of your posts :lol

[DD]

WTF are you trying to prove.
You got some lumber chip on your shoulder.

Is the board supposed to be impressed because you know your job?
You want me to blather on about some molecular biology or physics subject and integrate them making everyone completely bored and unimpressed. You want us all to go into our earnings? Shall we pretend to measure the circumference of our balls and take an average. Would you like me to tell you the exit velocity of your piss without a watch and two simple distance measurements? What is this crap...

So.

Israel has somehow read John Kerry's phone messages back in April during some important negotiations. Is it likely that Israel trumped up a lot of minor skirmishes because they knew it might be good timing to wound Hamas badly before the talks had a chance of going too well?

Anti Israeli folks, what do you say? Far fetched?

:lol i pictured you yelling at your computer screen when you posted this.

Don't cry about thread being derailed when you'll stop at nothing to get the last word. You just can't help yourself. Watch, you'll do it again.

[Shastafarian]

Yeah, you were. Everytime I checked back in here from the Bills thread your name was at the bottom--why would you lie about something so stupid and obvious that I just witnessed. At least make up some bullshit excuse like "I was eating dinner or away from the computer."

You had to read up on black pts and ACE inhibitors, that's what delayed you. At least own up to it--now you have something to share with your better-paid contemporaries. and yes, you managed to get the HCTZ right--although you had to read up on that too since you gave a dose range for it. Everybody gets 25 to start (it's an automatic), and docs will rarely up that dose without adjusting other meds first.

As for the Norvasc, good luck getting 2.5mg to affect anybody's BP. When you actually start seeing real pt's you'll find that 5mg is usually the bare minimum that'll work. You'll find yourself keeping them on the 25mg HCTZ and playing with either their Norvasc or Lisinopril (for whitey) doses.

After that if they're still hypertensive, we'll see if you have the stones to bring the heavy hitters out. Some of our doc's and PA's won't touch 'em, but they work every damn time given just 3 days of use.Dunno what to tell you. I was viewing the thread for maybe 10 minutes while I was cleaning up after dinner. There were issues earlier with the website loading but I don't see why it would say I was logged in since I wasn't. And as far as your "recommendations" go, I gave you vague guidelines going on the vague case history you gave me.


The burden is on you, doc. I'm just a medic with a high-school education I've heard.Afraid not chief:


I also could teach you about blood pressure too since you clearly aren't medical:lol



As for your incessant superior crying, you don't get mine if I don't get yours. What's fair is fair.

Oh now it's about being fair. I just still don't understand why you're ashamed of your beliefs. Let me be your voice!

[Shastafarian]

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/israel-intelligence-eavesdropped-on-phone-calls-by-john-kerry-a-984246.html

Lets see if this has legs.
We should be hearing much more about this if our current administration has the guts.

I guess I misunderstood the initial report. This is saying the Israelis spied last year during peace talks. It won't change policy and maybe if anything will make the US stop coddling the Israelis. While that might seem harsh to Israel, it might be in their best interest.

[DD]

Dunno what to tell you. I was viewing the thread for maybe 10 minutes while I was cleaning up after dinner. There were issues earlier with the website loading but I don't see why it would say I was logged in since I wasn't. And as far as your "recommendations" go, I gave you vague guidelines going on the vague case history you gave me.

Afraid not chief:






Oh now it's about being fair. I just still don't understand why you're ashamed of your beliefs. Let me be your voice!

Like I said, show me yours and i'll show you mine. Till then, I'll be the bigoted medic and you'll be the woefully underpaid doctor who lives under daddeh's roof and WebMD's his pt's treatment plan.:rollin

[vy65]

lol advanced degree smack.

"But but but ... I have a ph.d" is the last refuge of faggots.

the only thing this thread lacks is RG accusing people of killing children.

[vy65]

lol some serious work being done in this thread

[Shastafarian]

Till then, I'll be the bigoted medic who hides behind the internetThere we go since you're never going to admit it. Now truly moving on...

[DD]

There we go since you're never going to admit it. Now truly moving on...
:lol8 years of school to be paid less than SBM gets for probing sphincters for contraband
:lolhas to WebMD generic BP treatment

[Shastafarian]

I guess I'd use emoticons that much too if I was insecure. Thankfully I'm secure in knowing I don't only care about money and that I didn't google my response to your oversimplified question.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/04/world/mideast-crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

I feel like the media, at least the agencies I've been watching, have been fairly even handed in this conflict lately. You can see bias in certain anchors or correspondents but it's not too glaring. That being said I don't watch Fox or msnbc.

[Shastafarian]

Hang on did you just brag about fingering dudes' buttholes?

[DD]

Hang on did you just brag about fingering dudes' buttholes?

How on God's green earth did you come to that conclusion from my post? Seriously, how did you manage to fuck that up?

[Shastafarian]

What's an SBM? Figured you were talking about yourself

[DD]

Sweet merciful Christ you're retarded. Just walk away.

[Shastafarian]

Alright just explain it to me then.

[DD]

Alright just explain it to me then.

You really don't know the poster sbm? It's kinda hard to miss him

[Shastafarian]

Can't say I know the personal story of many board members. Funny that you assume everyone is as ensconced in this place as you though.

[vy65]

:crofl

[DarrinS]

WTF happened here?

[Shastafarian]

WTF happened here?

I think to answer the OP, there are outlets that are "ridiculously one-sided" for each side. But anyone with the time and reasoning capabilities of a 12 year old can distinguish biased journalism from objective journalism. I'll admit it is a bit more difficult to sort things out, even from objective sources, because the conflict is ongoing. Once this ends for good I think we'll be able to look back and get a better idea of what actually happened.

[pgardn]

WTF happened here?

You got a DD "I make more money than you I'm smarter than you" rant that often accompanies a severe lack of confidence. You figure a Nazi would find a thread he knows nothing about and derail it by pestering.

Basically what I am interested in at this point is Israel winding this thing down and the Israeli's spying on Kerry's phone. The timing. Why did Der Speigel break this story now? And it really has not received a lot of press, also interesting as the Obama adm. had to calm the Germans down about our spying on Merkel's phone.

[pgardn]

Can't say I know the personal story of many board members. Funny that you assume everyone is as ensconced in this place as you though.

Im not in the know either.
Life is good that way.

[Shastafarian]

Basically what I am interested in at this point is Israel winding this thing down and the Israeli's spying on Kerry's phone. The timing. Why did Der Speigel break this story now? And it really has not received a lot of press, also interesting as the Obama adm. had to calm the Germans down about our spying on Merkel's phone.It almost seems like "friendly" spying is commonplace now so it goes underreported.


Im not in the know either.
Life is good that way.
:toast

[pgardn]

It almost seems like "friendly" spying is commonplace now so it goes underreported.


:toast

And that's what's interesting. We know this happens. The key is making it public. And the timing.
Why now? Der Spiegel just became aware of this... Strange.

And then it may be a side note I only find interesting.

[pgardn]

Interesting opinion on who Hamas now relies on:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/08/04/hamas_s_bffs_turkey_qatar_israel_gaza

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol israel with the propaganda shit, bombard ppl back to the stone ages and bring in medical supplies like ur doing some shit worth mentioning to hide what u just did...

[pgardn]

lol israel with the propaganda shit, bombard ppl back to the stone ages and bring in medical supplies like ur doing some shit worth mentioning to hide what u just did...

Israel has always wanted terrorists dead and civilians out of harms way. The only discussion is how careful they were considering the terrorists intentionally hid weapons and themselves among the population. Israel was not careful in some cases, and they made some big mistakes, by their own admission and standards.

Where did you get the info that Israel is sending supplies?
Dont you remember the press lies for Israel ?

So again, you believe your statement to be true because you are on the ground in Gaza?
If so, we must treat you as unreliable, pro Hamas press.

And lastly, do you know computers as well as you know foreign affairs?
If so, everything you post about computers is fantasy based on nothing but your dreams.

[DarrinS]

Interesting opinion on who Hamas now relies on:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/08/04/hamas_s_bffs_turkey_qatar_israel_gaza


:tu


I'd like to read this one, but requires subscription:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/08/04/how_to_fix_it_jimmy_carter_mary_robinson_israel_pa lestine_gaza_hamas

"How to Fix It: Ending this war in Gaza begins with recognizing Hamas as a legitimate political actor." by Jimmy Carter & Mary Robinson


The fuck?

[Winehole23]

is there some way of doing a deal that doesn't recognize Gaza's duly elected political representatives?

(by the way, Hamas would barely be there politically if Sec'y Rice hadn't insisted on free elections in Gaza, in 2006.)

[Winehole23]

as i recall, Bush and Rice insisted Hamas be allowed to offer candidates, back when they were a banned party.

[Winehole23]

Israel was against it.

[Winehole23]

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/ndtv-exclusive-how-hamas-assembles-and-fires-rockets-571033

[lefty]

:cry Mein Negger

http://www.trunews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/2_photo.jpg

[Cry Havoc]

What's an SBM? Figured you were talking about yourself

SBM is silverblack mystic - perhaps the most idiotic poster on Spurstalk. Has famously bragged about his subpar income, how popovich is a terrible basketball coach, his job as a cop (he's a guard), and his band, which he posted his personal info to this board to get people to like his music then accused them of stalking him when it was brought up in a later thread. He also threatened to fight other Spurstalk members for embarrassing him, but was a no-show when someone actually went to meet him.

I'm actually sad I know all this. Or any of it. :lol

[pgardn]

:tu


I'd like to read this one, but requires subscription:



?

How the heck did I read it?
Im really not sure, I don't have a sub.
ohhh... I might have just typed the title in on a search?

Its very good. Everyone knows Iran is a player.

But it discusses how poed Saudi Arabia and Jordan were that Turkey and Qatar sat at a cease fire table. It concluded that Qatar and Turkey should have just sat with the Hamas representatives with as much $ they hand out to Hamas. I did not know the inside alignments and how they got started.

It also mentioned how Israel was appalled at the Obama Admin. actually suggested Turkey and Qatar sit at the table. I had no idea... This stuff is really complicated. Changing sides, reasons who supports whom... Messy and fluid.

[pgardn]

SBM is silverblack mystic - perhaps the most idiotic poster on Spurstalk. Has famously bragged about his subpar income, how popovich is a terrible basketball coach, his job as a cop (he's a guard), and his band, which he posted his personal info to this board to get people to like his music then accused them of stalking him when it was brought up in a later thread. He also threatened to fight other Spurstalk members for embarrassing him, but was a no-show when someone actually went to meet him.

I'm actually sad I know all this. Or any of it. :lol

Oh the Silver Misfit.

Did not know any of the above except the irrational hatred of Popovich and bizarre paranoia.
Got my fill, checked ignore. Along with the rest of that knee jerk group feeding off every possible conspiracy.

[pgardn]

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/ndtv-exclusive-how-hamas-assembles-and-fires-rockets-571033

Thats a great find.



Those press guys are really brave. Hamas could have had other men watching the hotel windows or whatever, waiting to pick them off or at least confiscating everything they own. And how do they know the Israel response time? I would have been gone immediately after Hamas fired that thing.

[Cry Havoc]

Oh the Silver Misfit.

Did not know any of the above except the irrational hatred of Popovich and bizarre paranoia.
Got my fill, checked ignore. Along with the rest of that knee jerk group feeding off every possible conspiracy.

It's almost worth unblocking to read. Almost. I don't know if I've ever seen someone so tied up in their online persona. Watching them get successively blown apart by about 80% of the forum definitely has it's guilty humor side to it. At least not since the naruto incident did someone make such a fool of themselves. :lol

[pgardn]

It's almost worth unblocking to read. Almost. I don't know if I've ever seen someone so tied up in their online persona. Watching them get successively blown apart by about 80% of the forum definitely has it's guilty humor side to it. At least not since the naruto incident did someone make such a fool of themselves. :lol

I'll pass.

The articles others find for you on this site are occasionally great finds.
I was trying to find just what Winehole posted, I had no idea how Hamas fired rockets.
Had No idea what the basic setup was.

[Wild Cobra]

as i recall, Bush and Rice insisted Hamas be allowed to offer candidates, back when they were a banned party.
Really?

I have a hard time believing that. I don't recall any such thing.

Link please.

[Shastafarian]

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/ndtv-exclusive-how-hamas-assembles-and-fires-rockets-571033


Thats a great find.



Those press guys are really brave. Hamas could have had other men watching the hotel windows or whatever, waiting to pick them off or at least confiscating everything they own. And how do they know the Israel response time? I would have been gone immediately after Hamas fired that thing.

Not all that surprising there is now evidence of Hamas using civilian areas as staging sites for rockets. It doesn't totally negate Israel's response to those rockets but it will hopefully show more people the true intentions of Hamas. I think the first step towards peace is somehow replacing Hamas as the political decision makers in Gaza. Unfortunately, as others have pointed out, this likely only strengthened Hamas in the region.

[pgardn]

Not all that surprising there is now evidence of Hamas using civilian areas as staging sites for rockets. It doesn't totally negate Israel's response to those rockets but it will hopefully show more people the true intentions of Hamas. I think the first step towards peace is somehow replacing Hamas as the political decision makers in Gaza. Unfortunately, as others have pointed out, this likely only strengthened Hamas in the region.

The press actually got in to show this from the ground.
Its not surprising, it's actually showing Gaza for more than the horror of babies being killed.
These press guys were brave and sly enough to catch it.

Its a whole heck of a lot easier to get pictures of Palestians suffering, Hamas will lead you right to those scenes. There is a reason those faces preparing the rockets are smeared in the video.

[Shastafarian]

The press actually got in to show this from the ground.
Its not surprising, it's actually showing Gaza for more than the horror of babies being killed.
These press guys were brave and sly enough to catch it.I know they had some balls to tape it with the rocketeers (lol) basically aware of their taping.


Its a whole heck of a lot easier to get pictures of Palestians suffering, Hamas will lead you right to those scenes. There is a reason those faces preparing the rockets are smeared in the video.Also a reason they were fatasses. I'm not sure I've seen a healthy weight Hamas rep. Hamas officials don't seem to be hurting from the blockade that's for sure.

[pgardn]

Also a reason they were fatasses. I'm not sure I've seen a healthy weight Hamas rep. Hamas officials don't seem to be hurting from the blockade that's for sure.

That is EXACTLY what I was thinking with the profile of the tub...

[Shastafarian]

I didn't get to pay attention to this much but did the Hamas political leader in Qatar actually say he thought jews killed christians to make matzah?

[Shastafarian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlDe1h3hJ6c

Well there ya go

[pgardn]

I didn't get to pay attention to this much but did the Hamas political leader in Qatar actually say he thought jews killed christians to make matzah?

I have no idea.

If he did, he is not taking advantage of the feeling among some Christians that the Jews gave Jesus up to Pontus Pilot. If he was trying to cause friction between Christians and Jews, I would suggest the aforementioned vs. grinding up Christians for crackers. The Soylent Green angle... no so convincing...

[pgardn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlDe1h3hJ6c

Well there ya go

Well I was late with my answer and I am clearly not his minister of propaganda.
I would have advised him of the foolishness but oh well...
There you have it.

[pgardn]

Maybe we can get a Nazi to tell us how the remark was taken out of context.
That he really meant the Jews eat just Christian plasma with matzos.

[Shastafarian]

Maybe we can get a Nazi to tell us how the remark was taken out of context.
That he really meant the Jews eat just Christian plasma with matzos.

More likely our resident nazis agree with what he said.

[Winehole23]

No one has clean hands, but Israel's hand is much the mightier.

Fatah, not too long ago -- feels kinda weird to say -- seemed a reasonable alternative to Hamas; the peace process, however, made Fatah look puny and weak. Israel continues to blockade Gaza and settle the West Bank.

To those who point to Gaza as an example of Israel dialing back settlement, that was 9,000 or so settlers. In the West Bank there are like, 350,000 pissed off Zionists.

Hard to imagine they'd go quietly.

[pgardn]

No one has clean hands, but Israel's hand is much the mightier.

Fatah, not too long ago -- feels kinda weird to say -- seemed a reasonable alternative to Hamas; the peace process, however, made Fatah look puny and weak. Israel continues to blockade Gaza and settle the West Bank.

To those who point to Gaza as an example of Israel dialing back settlement, that was 9,000 or so settlers. In the West Bank there are like, 350,000 pissed off Zionists.

Hard to imagine they'd go quietly.

The West Bank is a total mess. The settlements have riddled the entire map with various pockets. The Israelis have moved the settlements before. But many of these are now populated by Russian and Eastern European Jews. They will not go nicely. These are not more reasonable American/western types (a number removed physically as I remember). The newer eastern immigrants have had rough lives and are toughly proud of what they have been given. I would not doubt firearms being used and Israeli police dying.

[DarrinS]

Winehole bummed more Israelis aren't dead. Smh

[Infinite_limit]

"President Obama on Monday signed a bill that will give Israel $225 million to restock its Iron Dome missile defense system.

The House voted 395-8 to pass the bill Friday night.

The missile shield system was developed jointly by the United States and Israel and is said to have intercepted dozens of rockets fired from Gaza during the conflict that began July 17. The system uses advanced tracking technology to determine if a rocket is headed for a population center; if it is it destroys the rocket mid-flight."




The only issue Washington can agree on

[TDMVPDPOY]

"President Obama on Monday signed a bill that will give Israel $225 million to restock its Iron Dome missile defense system.

The House voted 395-8 to pass the bill Friday night.

The missile shield system was developed jointly by the United States and Israel and is said to have intercepted dozens of rockets fired from Gaza during the conflict that began July 17. The system uses advanced tracking technology to determine if a rocket is headed for a population center; if it is it destroys the rocket mid-flight."




The only issue Washington can agree on

why not sell to both sides? war = profit, let both blow themselves up

[pgardn]

why not sell to both sides? war = profit, let both blow themselves up

There are other conflicts were combatants are using our weaponry against each other to great effect.
We got that covered. Russia does the same, France also.

I would not doubt Hamas has smuggled in some US arms as well.
Lots of sellers.

[pgardn]

"President Obama on Monday signed a bill that will give Israel $225 million to restock its Iron Dome missile defense system.

The House voted 395-8 to pass the bill Friday night.

The missile shield system was developed jointly by the United States and Israel and is said to have intercepted dozens of rockets fired from Gaza during the conflict that began July 17. The system uses advanced tracking technology to determine if a rocket is headed for a population center; if it is it destroys the rocket mid-flight."




The only issue Washington can agree on

They use it for themselves and therefore test it for us.
When Russia gets nasty we perfect it further and give it to Poland maybe.
The Ukraine maybe. Its a deterrent of sorts.

[Infinite_limit]

They use it for themselves and therefore test it for us.
When Russia gets nasty we perfect it further and give it to Poland maybe.
The Ukraine maybe. Its a deterrent of sorts.
If Israel can't protect itself, it doesn't deserve to exist

[pgardn]

If Israel can't protect itself, it doesn't deserve to exist

Butt kicking during the 6 day war.

I guess Egypt should give the Sinai back to Israel after they ran over Nasser.
I guess Syria should give back the entirety of the Golan Heights after Israel stomped through.
That was some serious butt kicking, you have some admiration, you know you do.

[Infinite_limit]

Butt kicking during the 6 day war.

I guess Egypt should give the Sinai back to Israel after they ran over Nasser.
I guess Syria should give back the entirety of the Golan Heights after Israel stomped through.
That was some serious butt kicking, you have some admiration, you know you do.
USA warned Russia that if Egypt attacked Israel, it would blame Russia & consider it an act of War.

So I still have yet to see Jews fighting it's own War. Unless we consider their quitting job in WW2

[TDMVPDPOY]

USA warned Russia that if Egypt attacked Israel, it would blame Russia & consider it an act of War.

So I still have yet to see Jews fighting it's own War. Unless we consider their quitting job in WW2

thats fkn horseshit tbh...they can attack anyone but if anyone attacks them, its considered a act of war? therefor american participates...roflmao, zionists wankers have infiltrated american politics where american lives are worth jackshit to a jew...

[mingus]

If Israel can't protect itself, it doesn't deserve to exist

Israel can protect itself. It does. The US is an ally and helping subsidize their military (25% of Israel's military budget is financed by the US). This is how alliances work. Apparently, you don't believe in alliances and it's each nation for itself.

[pgardn]

here american lives are worth jackshit to a jew...

I will only address one part of your maniacal thought process.

And I will simply ask, in your parlance, are you Fkn kidding with the above?
Where in the US do you live that you witnessed this behavior?

Why do you hate Jews? Jews... then please list behaviors.

[Winehole23]

Winehole bummed more Israelis aren't dead. SmhNot at all. I didn't say so -- why do you assume it?

[Winehole23]

Criticizing collective punishment and disproportionate force isn't wishing more people dead, it's the opposite.

Didn't you watch the vid I posted? Hamas ain't no sainty-saints. It's not about putting someone down to hold someone else up as the good guy.

In real life there can be bad guys on every side.

[Winehole23]

by one measure, propaganda is easily detectable: it claims one side monopolizes justice and the good, the other, evil and injustice. things are seldom so simple.

[Winehole23]

Really?

I have a hard time believing that. I don't recall any such thing.

Link please.


"I've asked why nobody saw it coming," Ms. Rice said, speaking of her own staff. "It does say something about us not having a good enough pulse."http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/30/international/middleeast/30diplo.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

[Winehole23]

the Israeli press buries the destruction in the back pages and denounces war critics as traitors, the international press plays up the human cost. both are biased.

[Capt Bringdown]

Here is a codified list of the more than fifty laws which constitute Israel’s equivalent of Jim Crow, granting exorbitant privilege to the 80% majority and second-class citizenship to the 20% minority:

Discriminatory Laws in Israel -- more -->> (http://adalah.org/eng/Israeli-Discriminatory-Law-Database)

There are more than 50 Israeli laws that discriminate against Palestinian citizens of Israel in all areas of life, including their rights to political participation, access to land, education, state budget resources, and criminal procedures. Some of the laws also violate the rights of Palestinians living in the 1967 OPT and Palestinian refugees.

[Capt Bringdown]

Greenwald: US Intelligence Supports Israeli attacks
Glen Greenwald reveals that new Snowden documents show that American hands are in every war launched by Israel against Palestinians
Transcipt -->> (http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=12200)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMuxNOtNL9Q

[Winehole23]

sucks for Arab-Israelis. the US helped. not exactly news.

do you have a point?

[Wild Cobra]

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/30/international/middleeast/30diplo.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
What paragraph says that Bush pushed for Hamas to be in the election process?


as i recall, Bush and Rice insisted Hamas be allowed to offer candidates, back when they were a banned party.

[Cry Havoc]

Criticizing collective punishment and disproportionate force isn't wishing more people dead, it's the opposite.

Didn't you watch the vid I posted? Hamas ain't no sainty-saints. It's not about putting someone down to hold someone else up as the good guy.

In real life there can be bad guys on every side.

Nope. It's black and white. If you disagree with what Israel is going you must be a Hamas loving terrorist supporter. That's the way these debates function.

[Shastafarian]

No one has clean hands, but Israel's hand is much the mightier.

Fatah, not too long ago -- feels kinda weird to say -- seemed a reasonable alternative to Hamas; the peace process, however, made Fatah look puny and weak. Israel continues to blockade Gaza and settle the West Bank.
I feel like I read about Bush and his administration helping militants take over Gaza and push Fatah out because he/they didn't trust Abbas.

[DarrinS]

Nope. It's black and white. If you disagree with what Israel is going you must be a Hamas loving terrorist supporter. That's the way these debates function.


lol




No one is forcing Israel to decimate hospitals. The Israeli government is every bit as bad as Hamas.



Do you really think that? Really?

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol





Do you really think that? Really?

if jesus told nat to stop, he would probably laugh in jesus face....we created you, a non fictional character, gtfo

[Cry Havoc]

lol


Do you really think that? Really?

Not in form, no, but in function, yes. If Hamas had the military ability they would likely be very terrible, although I have to think if they did anything on that scale it would bring a lot of other powers into the region.

As it stands though, the acts the Israeli government has been carrying out for the past decade is as bad, if not worse, than Hamas. Illegal settlements, routinely ramping up tensions and using it as an excuse to attack, to say nothing of the wretched conditions they have imposed upon innocent people who are literally starving to death.

[Wild Cobra]

Here is a codified list of the more than fifty laws which constitute Israel’s equivalent of Jim Crow, granting exorbitant privilege to the 80% majority and second-class citizenship to the 20% minority:

Discriminatory Laws in Israel -- more -->> (http://adalah.org/eng/Israeli-Discriminatory-Law-Database)

There are more than 50 Israeli laws that discriminate against Palestinian citizens of Israel in all areas of life, including their rights to political participation, access to land, education, state budget resources, and criminal procedures. Some of the laws also violate the rights of Palestinians living in the 1967 OPT and Palestinian refugees.
I suppose you are just going to put that out there without understanding the cultural reasons as to why...

Consider that anything that requires Sharia law, will be illegal in Israel.

[Infinite_limit]

Greenwald: US Intelligence Supports Israeli attacks
Glen Greenwald reveals that new Snowden documents show that American hands are in every war launched by Israel against Palestinians
Transcipt -->> (http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=12200)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMuxNOtNL9Q
"They hate us for our freedom"


Israel can protect itself. It does. The US is an ally and helping subsidize their military (25% of Israel's military budget is financed by the US). This is how alliances work. Apparently, you don't believe in alliances and it's each nation for itself.
Illustrates the USA (and UK/France) main objective is destabilizing the region. Have absolutely no issue with Muslims targeting civilians in rebuttal within these nations.

[mingus]

"They hate us for our freedom"


Illustrates the USA (and UK/France) main objective is destabilizing the region. Have absolutely no issue with Muslims targeting civilians in rebuttal within these nations.

Your point was still a stupid one. I can guarantee that the US does have a problem with it. What's with the cynicism? There's actual legitimate reasons why the US didn't militarily intervene in Syria despite civilian deaths. One is, if you're talking about actual direct military aid, our military was just coming off of a decades long war(s) (which, wait for it...was supposed help the average Iraqi/Afgan overcome terrorist and tyranny. Which didn't pay off one bit as has been clear). Two is military subsidization to a destable region such as that is risky as weaponry can get into the wrong hands (Libyan weaponry was looted by terrorists eg. Hamas), and three a good number of the Syrians we would have been helping (estimated 25%) had extremist views themselves against the West and particularly Israel. Those are three obstacles, but there are more.

[Winehole23]

Lotan also expresses concern over the dilemma that the more we engage online media, the more it personalizes itself to fit our political outlooks. He suggests an experiment: Facebook's trending pages aggregate content that are heavily shared across the platform. If you're already logged into Facebook, you'll see a personalized view of the trend, highlighting your friends and their views on the trend. Next, open a separate browser window in "incognito mode" and navigate to the same page. Since the browser has no idea who you are on Facebook, you'll get the raw, unpersonalized feed. See how many differences you notice.http://io9.com/the-biggest-source-of-disinformation-on-the-gaza-confli-1616469889/+laceydonohue

[DarrinS]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28688179




An analysis by the New York Times looked at the names of 1,431 casualties and found that "the population most likely to be militants, men ages 20 to 29, is also the most overrepresented in the death toll. They are 9% of Gaza's 1.7 million residents, but 34% of those killed whose ages were provided."

"At the same time, women and children under 15, the least likely to be legitimate targets, were the most underrepresented, making up 71% of the population and 33% of the known-age casualties."

[Shastafarian]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28688179

Another important note:


"It's important to bear in mind that in Operation Cast Lead [the last Israeli ground offensive in December 2008-January 2009], Hamas and Gaza-based organisations claimed that only 50 combatants were killed, admitting years later the number was between 600-700, a figure nearly identical to the figure claimed by the IDF."

[DarrinS]

And, Hamas resumes firing rockets.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/08/us-mideast-gaza-idUSKBN0G70JY20140808

[Winehole23]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238211&page=3&p=7546833&viewfull=1#post7546833

[DarrinS]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238211&page=3&p=7546833&viewfull=1#post7546833

And?

[Winehole23]

your hobby horse speaks for itself.

[Splits]

And, Hamas resumes firing rockets.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/08/us-mideast-gaza-idUSKBN0G70JY20140808

:lmao 2nd grade fireworks that can't hurt anyone vs. military-grade bombs that kill everyone in their purview.

How do you defend/explain 2000 vs 68?

[Splits]

And?

And youre a racist warmonger that celebrates child death as long as it is browned-skinned

[Shastafarian]

:lmao 2nd grade fireworks that can't hurt anyone vs. military-grade bombs that kill everyone in their purview. They actually injured two Israelis and previous rockets have killed Israeli citizens. It's a rocket. If it lands near you, you are injured or killed. Not sure why there has to be a comparison of munitions.


How do you defend/explain 2000 vs 68?
No defending it. What are your suggestions? Israel should do nothing? Hamas should do more to kill people?

[DarrinS]

And youre a racist warmonger that celebrates child death as long as it is browned-skinned

It's a religion issue -- not a skin color issue. Almost everywhere the "religion of peace" is practiced, there's no peace.

[pgardn]

:lmao 2nd grade fireworks that can't hurt anyone vs. military-grade bombs that kill everyone in their purview.

How do you defend/explain 2000 vs 68?

2nd grade fireworks on your house...
How you gonna feel?

Defend it... Ask Hamas to defend it. Ask them why they put missiles in UN schools?

[DarrinS]

:lmao 2nd grade fireworks that can't hurt anyone vs. military-grade bombs that kill everyone in their purview.

How do you defend/explain 2000 vs 68?


How do I explain it?

Iron Dome


For some strange reason, the Israeli's invested in a missile defense system.

[Aztecfan03]

They actually injured two Israelis and previous rockets have killed Israeli citizens. It's a rocket. If it lands near you, you are injured or killed. Not sure why there has to be a comparison of munitions.


No defending it. What are your suggestions? Israel should do nothing? Hamas should do more to kill people?

Don't forget they have killed their own with them too.

[pgardn]

Don't forget they have killed their own with them too.

Mortars misfiring and spies executed... No trial.

[cheguevara]

Interesting that there this is the only Israel vs Palestine thread on the entire site...

mmmm

just one thought. Israel is one of the most populated countries. It will hit 9 million+ by 2025 placing it even higher in population density than India, West Bank, Belgium and Japan. You do the math....

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Interesting that there this is the only Israel vs Palestine thread on the entire site...

mmmm

just one thought. Israel is one of the most populated countries. It will hit 9 million+ by 2025 placing it even higher in population density than India, West Bank, Belgium and Japan. You do the math....

Is this a social experiment where you say stupid untrue shit and then see how many people that you can get to go along with it?

[Jacob1983]

So is Israel happy that Iraq is getting all the headlines now?

Why is the Middle East the headquarters for barbarians?

[hater]

Goal: Take Israel/Gaza out of the news frontpage. Great Success :tu

[boutons_deux]

Israeli News Site Debunks Netanyahu's Tunnels-to-Kindergartens Myth


Israel's PM claimed Hamas was constructing tunnels aimed at his country's kindergartens -- propaganda that The New York Times and CNN reported.



http://www.alternet.org/files/story_images/btjfjctceaivefg-1-580x580_0.png

In fact (and as we reported (http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/blitzer-rudoren-israeli.html)), the only Israelis attacked from the tunnels were Israeli soldiers.

http://www.alternet.org/media/israeli-news-site-debunks-netanyahus-tunnels-kindergartens-myth

"the first casualty of war is the truth"

[DarrinS]

Israeli News Site Debunks Netanyahu's Tunnels-to-Kindergartens Myth


Israel's PM claimed Hamas was constructing tunnels aimed at his country's kindergartens -- propaganda that The New York Times and CNN reported.



http://www.alternet.org/files/story_images/btjfjctceaivefg-1-580x580_0.png

In fact (and as we reported (http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/blitzer-rudoren-israeli.html)), the only Israelis attacked from the tunnels were Israeli soldiers.

http://www.alternet.org/media/israeli-news-site-debunks-netanyahus-tunnels-kindergartens-myth

"the first casualty of war is the truth"





"Hamas used funds for kindergartens for Gaza's children to build tunnels of terror to strike at Israeli kindergartens."


Wow, alternet went full retard on that one.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literal_and_figurative_language

[boutons_deux]

Wow, alternet went full retard on that one.


takes a retard to know a retard

that claim was from the Israeli govt, not Alternet

[DarrinS]

takes a retard to know a retard

that claim was from the Israeli govt, not Alternet


Yes, he meant LITERALLY that a HAMAS tunnel went to an Israeli kindergarten.

[Infinite_limit]

takes a retard to know a retard

that claim was from the Israeli govt, not Alternet
Hahah. Whatever you say Jews

[The Reckoning]

lol arabs all salty because the jews whooped their ass on multiple occasions so now they cry to the world :cry give us our land :cry

this situation would have been resolved many years ago if the jews just took all of israel and deported all of the palestinians.

[Infinite_limit]

Hamas, a proxy for Syria and Iran, should stop firing rockets that bring Israeli hellfire down on the strip.
You'd make a great Republican

[Winehole23]

this situation would have been resolved many years ago if the jews just took all of israel and deported all of the palestinians.the resulting attacks from Arab countries might have been much the worse for it, but this is sheer speculation. maybe you're right.

I will take exception to you characterizing the actions of a political state as being the action not of Jews, but of "the Jews."

For example, it would be like saying the actions of the USA are the actions of "the Christians." See what i mean?

(shrugs)

[Winehole23]

not pissed. suppose you're being jocular, or loose with words, or something like that.


your clarification is welcome, TR.

[The Reckoning]

the jews as in "the jewish state"

USA isn't a political christian state per se

israel was founded by zionists who pressured the british to give them a slice of the empire. must be nice to get a free birthright trip.

i don't really care for israel existing or not, but the arab israeli wars should have decided this a long time ago. the UN (as usual) did a terrible job pressuring the creation of an arab state in the middle of israel. the jews should have just kept on the offense and pushed all of the arabs out. it sounds terrible but that would have saved half a century of conflict.

[Infinite_limit]

the jews as in "the jewish state"

USA isn't a political christian state per se

israel was founded by zionists who pressured the british to give them a slice of the empire. must be nice to get a free birthright trip.

i don't really care for israel existing or not, but the arab israeli wars should have decided this a long time ago. the UN (as usual) did a terrible job pressuring the creation of an arab state in the middle of israel. the jews should have just kept on the offense and pushed all of the arabs out. it sounds terrible but that would have saved half a century of conflict.
It doesn't matter if Jews were given a state in Africa, Europe or USA. They would be fighting with the locals. That's what Jews do.

[pgardn]

It doesn't matter if Jews were given a state in Africa, Europe or USA. They would be fighting with the locals. That's what Jews do.

What they seem to do is integrate very well into many societies.
But without sacrificing their cultural practices.
Seems to piss people off that are paranoid about Xmas trees and see menorahs.
Success for people of the book over ignorant Polish rock kickers in a place called Poland.

Im pokin the Nazi.

[Pelicans78]

So is Israel happy that Iraq is getting all the headlines now?

Why is the Middle East the headquarters for barbarians?

Same reason why Eastern Europe was 20 years ago.

[romain.star]

the resulting attacks from Arab countries might have been much the worse for it, but this is sheer speculation. maybe you're right.

I will take exception to you characterizing the actions of a political state as being the action not of Jews, but of "the Jews."

For example, it would be like saying the actions of the USA are the actions of "the Christians." See what i mean?

(shrugs)

Agreed... But you seem to ignore that unlike USA with Christianity, Israel is the only jew state in the world and has very specific attributes (any jew in the world can ask for Israeli citizenship, every law voted by the Kensset has to be "compatible" with judaism).

[romain.star]

bombin the shit out of someone then going to church to repent ur sins? roflmao fkn jews

Jews go to Churchs? I thought it was Synagogues... Thanks for the input dude!

[romain.star]

The people of Gaza voted them into power. Hell, the people in West Bank have been recorded celebrating the firing of rockets against Israeli citizens. I feel for the children, who did nothing to bring this upon themselves, but many of the adults in Gaza are getting what they voted for.

You should ask yourself a very simple question: why do most people in the West Bank voted and support Hammas? What kind of peace Israel is expecting with these deadly bombing?

[Infinite_limit]

http://i.imgur.com/SJGP4Qi.jpg

[pgardn]

http://i.imgur.com/SJGP4Qi.jpg

They got the Ernst Kriech Nazi textbook written on his underwear, but don't have the nuts to put a real swastika on his robe. Just like a bunch of chicken shit Nazis who won't wear the flag in public.

This why the character, Lt. Aldo Raine, cut swastikas into German foreheads, Inglorious Basterds...
Bunch of pale little white men hiding and trembling drawing comic book super nazi characters.
Nerdy Nazi Wimps...

[Infinite_limit]

They got the Ernst Kriech Nazi textbook written on his underwear, but don't have the nuts to put a real swastika on his robe. Just like a bunch of chicken shit Nazis who won't wear the flag in public.

This why the character, Lt. Aldo Raine, cut swastikas into German foreheads, Inglorious Basterds...
Bunch of pale little white men hiding and trembling drawing comic book super nazi characters.
Nerdy Nazi Wimps...
Did you really just reference some shitty Hollywood film? In real life Jews bent over and gladly took the Nazis ass fking like the gutless people they are. They might not even exist today if not for the pointless sacrifice of people like the Poles. Decades later they make cute little films trying to re-write History. Jews will always be ungrateful back stabbers.

[pgardn]

Did you really just reference some shitty Hollywood film? In real life Jews bent over and gladly took the Nazis ass fking like the gutless people they are. They might not even exist today if not for the pointless sacrifice of people like the Poles. Decades later they make cute little films trying to re-write History. Jews will always be ungrateful back stabbers.

Nazi, it was pure fiction. It was a great movie. Loved the cutting the swastika in the forehead stuff to brand them. And there was not a Nazi left in Germany after the war gutless MF. " I know nothing" gutless trash.

Do you wear the sign in public, Nazi?

[Infinite_limit]

Nazi, it was pure fiction. It was a great movie. Loved the cutting the swastika in the forehead stuff to brand them. And there was not a Nazi left in Germany after the war gutless MF. " I know nothing" gutless trash.

Do you wear the sign in public, Nazi?
It was an okay movie. As is most of the revolutionary history trash Tarantino has been releasing

Hating on Jews doesn't make me a Nazi, it makes me a normal human being.

[lefty]

My nuggah Barton dropping truth nukes :rollin

http://www.sport24.gr/football/England/article2943239.ece/BINARY/original/erw.jpg




http://www.sport24.gr/football/England/article2943240.ece/BINARY/original/erw2.jpg

http://www.sport24.gr/football/England/article2943242.ece/BINARY/original/erw3.jpg



http://www.sport24.gr/football/England/article2943243.ece/BINARY/original/erw4.jpg

[Shastafarian]

Where are the marches against the Islamic State?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/where-are-the-marches-against-the-islamic-state/2014/08/29/531f6052-2ed0-11e4-994d-202962a9150c_story.html?hpid=z6

[pgardn]

It was an okay movie. As is most of the revolutionary history trash Tarantino has been releasing

Hating on Jews doesn't make me a Nazi, it makes me a normal human being.

Your cartoon is Nazi trash. And you don't realize it.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol the 41 UN hostages (irish/filos)doing border protection services protecting a pathetic race on the borders of israel and syria by ISIL/ISIS

u know ur life is worth jackshit when ur protecting another race who did jackshit but reap a country out of nothing....pathetic

[pgardn]

lol the 41 UN hostages (irish/filos)doing border protection services protecting a pathetic race on the borders of israel and syria by ISIL/ISIS

u know ur life is worth jackshit when ur protecting another race who did jackshit but reap a country out of nothing....pathetic

What race do you protect?