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ManuGinobiliArg
08-24-2014, 09:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxWBMxwNRgQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaglX7T8DsU&list=PL264D94E3AC349317&index= 116

HI-FI
08-24-2014, 09:10 PM
i was hoping to find some of his infamous turnover gifs, but this deserves to be posted again, and it's hosted by jews4ginobili :lol
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--Qy9h_hIdgo/UbUFL7_QEQI/AAAAAAAAAXo/EmFnenjIoXI/s640/manu+ginobili+throws+the+ball+through+norris+cole% 2527s+legs+while+cole+is+running+AMAZING+game+1+20 13+finals+gif.gif

spursparker9
08-24-2014, 09:15 PM
i was hoping to find some of his infamous turnover gifs, but this deserves to be posted again, and it's hosted by jews4ginobili :lol
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--Qy9h_hIdgo/UbUFL7_QEQI/AAAAAAAAAXo/EmFnenjIoXI/s640/manu+ginobili+throws+the+ball+through+norris+cole% 2527s+legs+while+cole+is+running+AMAZING+game+1+20 13+finals+gif.gif

This should be the most difficult pass to make in the history of basketball.

Proxy
08-24-2014, 09:34 PM
The bullet pass he has to Bonner against the Lakers is a favorite... these videos always for get the similar one he had to Mills though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnsz0cpfKrs

Mikeanaro
08-24-2014, 09:37 PM
Nice :flag:

phyzik
08-24-2014, 09:51 PM
Borris Diaw surpassed him this last season TBH.

exstatic
08-24-2014, 10:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxWBMxwNRgQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaglX7T8DsU&list=PL264D94E3AC349317&index= 116

THIS is why Simmons says there will be 100 Wades before there's another Manu. Wade has been elite during his career, but his game is just a higher level of other players games. Manu plays another game altogether.

ElNono
08-24-2014, 10:43 PM
it's all magnets, tbh...

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Chinook
08-24-2014, 11:10 PM
The YouTuber who posted that video actually have a lot of good highlight reels on his channel. Including this one about Green:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfUmw3GgASM

That final play is easily the best clutch defensive play in Spurs' history.

Here's the list of all the YouTuber's vids for anyone who wants to see more:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4MVH2dkQ0SR4n1NA_ES2KQ

Chinook
08-24-2014, 11:12 PM
And lol at this one:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afN6OdRzfas

illusioNtEk
08-24-2014, 11:33 PM
Lol I bet Manu is the only player on earth who has the green light from Pop to do whatever he wants.

Kool Bob Love
08-25-2014, 12:17 AM
Manu.:worthy:

lefty
08-25-2014, 12:23 AM
Manu reminds me a lot of Marciulonis

spurraider21
08-25-2014, 12:40 AM
The YouTuber who posted that video actually have a lot of good highlight reels on his channel. Including this one about Green:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfUmw3GgASM

That final play is easily the best clutch defensive play in Spurs' history.

Here's the list of all the YouTuber's vids for anyone who wants to see more:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4MVH2dkQ0SR4n1NA_ES2KQ
it would be remembered as such had we won that game, tbh. instead we suddenly think of kawhi's similar play against RW

Chinook
08-25-2014, 12:44 AM
it would be remembered as such had we won that game, tbh. instead we suddenly think of kawhi's similar play against RW

Yep. Kawhi's play was more important, since it led to a win. But considering the context, the opponent and the physical disadvantage, I've got to give it to Green.

Plus, James fouled Green on that block. The thing was a miracle play.

HI-FI
08-25-2014, 01:02 AM
eh, Kawhi's play>>Green's imo

Solid D
08-25-2014, 01:04 AM
This was a memorable pass from 2010. Manu was 0-10 and then saved the game in OT by this diving pass to George Hill who passed to Richard Jefferson for the winning jumper.


http://youtu.be/Ne8DVXbkbwo

spurraider21
08-25-2014, 01:13 AM
eh, Kawhi's play>>Green's imo
they were virtually the same thing, but Green's was against the best player in the world in overtime of a potentially title-clinching game

HI-FI
08-25-2014, 01:26 AM
they were virtually the same thing, but Green's was against the best player in the world in overtime of a potentially title-clinching game
Green's play was incredible and yet underrated, like a lot of his work, but I stand by what I said. Hilarious to see LeTongue barrel through people par the par.

Chinook
08-25-2014, 01:40 AM
eh, Kawhi's play>>Green's imo

Why do you think that? Only because the Spurs won?

HI-FI
08-25-2014, 01:52 AM
Why do you think that? Only because the Spurs won?
The victory does help, a lot of things are lost in time from the losing side. I think it also has to do with the optics, Kawhi's play was just breathtaking, in fact Kawhi had a few holy shit moments these playoffs, but that was easily no.1. I don't want to dismiss any of Green's great D, but Kawhi's steal was iconic imo. Lebron is the best player but Westbrook is no slouch, I actually fear Westbrook more in the clutch but that could be a ref thing.

tbh, I was stoned on hydrocodone throughout the 2013 Finals because of a surgery so that could affect my recollection, though I sobered up for game 6 but with the pain (and post game pain :lol) things are still fuzzy. Watching the clip again, I still put Kawhi's play above it. You should run a poll on it though, might be some interesting discussion.

Mikeanaro
08-25-2014, 02:17 AM
http://www.ultimatenba.com/parecidosrazonables/fotos/PinchotGinobili2.jpg

BillMc
08-25-2014, 02:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxWBMxwNRgQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaglX7T8DsU&list=PL264D94E3AC349317&index= 116
Brilliant Stuff. Man I'll be sad the day Manu hangs it up.

will_spurs
08-25-2014, 03:12 AM
Why do you think that? Only because the Spurs won?

I'm with HI-FI. First of all heroics aren't so heroic any more if the game (and subsequently the title) is lost. That was an amazing effort by Green, but in the end it amounted to nothing.

The other aspect is that Kawhi's play was just a clean steal, almost like a magick trick: "now you have the ball, now you don't". All that while rotating, jumping, and having the reflexes to get rid of the ball before landing oob (even if I think he landed in the court in the end, but it doesn't matter). Westbrook never saw it coming. And if you want to see the play again you only have to look at my sig :)

Green reaching out was a high risk high reward play, and I have the feeling he got lucky (actually Lebron almost managed to hold on to the ball). Kawhi's play seemed controlled all the way, which makes it more impressive for me.

Chinook
08-25-2014, 03:31 AM
I'm with HI-FI. First of all heroics aren't so heroic any more if the game (and subsequently the title) is lost. That was an amazing effort by Green, but in the end it amounted to nothing.

The other aspect is that Kawhi's play was just a clean steal, almost like a magick trick: "now you have the ball, now you don't". All that while rotating, jumping, and having the reflexes to get rid of the ball before landing oob (even if I think he landed in the court in the end, but it doesn't matter). Westbrook never saw it coming. And if you want to see the play again you only have to look at my sig :)

Green reaching out was a high risk high reward play, and I have the feeling he got lucky (actually Lebron almost managed to hold on to the ball). Kawhi's play seemed controlled all the way, which makes it more impressive for me.

Green's block looked risky because James fouled Green with his off arm. Had Danny been on balance, he would have blocked him straight up like he did earlier in the series (the penultimate play in the vid). Leonard had the benefit of being a help defender on Westbrook, and he frankly made a play that Green makes routinely (in fact, Danny had a similar block on Russ earlier in the WCF).

Kawhi's play is a dandy, and it will go down in history because of its result. But clutch plays to me are not about what happens before or after. They are about what a player does in the moment. And being able to single-handedly stop the best specimen in history coming at you with a full head of steam with the game on the line is something that is very rare. I can't think of another player who would have done that.

That's why I say Leonard's is more important, but Green's was better. It just took so much more skill. But it will be the defensive equivalent of Duncan's clutch shot which preceded .4.

Chinook
08-25-2014, 03:36 AM
The victory does help, a lot of things are lost in time from the losing side. I think it also has to do with the optics, Kawhi's play was just breathtaking, in fact Kawhi had a few holy shit moments these playoffs, but that was easily no.1. I don't want to dismiss any of Green's great D, but Kawhi's steal was iconic imo. Lebron is the best player but Westbrook is no slouch, I actually fear Westbrook more in the clutch but that could be a ref thing.

tbh, I was stoned on hydrocodone throughout the 2013 Finals because of a surgery so that could affect my recollection, though I sobered up for game 6 but with the pain (and post game pain :lol) things are still fuzzy. Watching the clip again, I still put Kawhi's play above it. You should run a poll on it though, might be some interesting discussion.

I doubt many folks agree with me. Green gets no respect, and Kawhi gets a ton. Plus, I think the pain over 6 and Green's poor shooting in that game colors the decision. It's also of note that Leonard's block is a relatively rare thing for him, since he's actually awful in transition most of the time. So him making that play is like Green hitting a buzzer-beating floater of an iso crossover.

pookenstein
08-25-2014, 04:12 AM
The other aspect is that Kawhi's play was just a clean steal, almost like a magick trick: "now you have the ball, now you don't". All that while rotating, jumping, and having the reflexes to get rid of the ball before landing oob (even if I think he landed in the court in the end, but it doesn't matter). Westbrook never saw it coming. And if you want to see the play again you only have to look at my sig :)

No. His reflex was to catch the ball, but he wasn't fast enough. He didn't try to get rid of it. Amazing play nonetheless.

pookenstein
08-25-2014, 04:13 AM
Kawhi's play is a dandy, and it will go down in history because of its result. But clutch plays to me are not about what happens before or after. They are about what a player does in the moment. And being able to single-handedly stop the best specimen in history coming at you with a full head of steam with the game on the line is something that is very rare. I can't think of another player who would have done that.

That's why I say Leonard's is more important, but Green's was better. It just took so much more skill. But it will be the defensive equivalent of Duncan's clutch shot which preceded .4.

:toast

ElNono
08-25-2014, 04:15 AM
eh, Kawhi's play>>Green's imo

ditto here

boutons_deux
08-25-2014, 07:09 AM
Manu closing out Sonics @SEA 2005

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LxfOV5B9Ko

99 Problems
08-25-2014, 07:26 AM
Manu = Warrior. :lobt2:

superbigtime
08-25-2014, 07:57 AM
Passing through the defenders open legs is one of his trademarks. I mean, it's a regular part of his game. Can any other player past or present make that claim? Gotta be demoralizing for the defender too. Manu is one of a kind.

ManuGinobiliArg
08-25-2014, 08:56 AM
Euro-stepping since 1991. ARGENTINA STEPPING, Manu Step
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKlUh2aGZOA

exstatic
08-25-2014, 01:04 PM
Manu closing out Sonics @SEA 2005

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LxfOV5B9Ko
I hated their fanbase SO much for cheering when Timmy went down that I was happy when they moved to OKC.

Seventyniner
08-25-2014, 03:20 PM
I've always wondered what the penalty would be, if any, for a player who attempts a nutmeg pass and instead bounces the ball up into the defender's crotch. I'm guessing none because it would usually result in a turnover, which is already a small punishment.

polandprzem
08-25-2014, 03:58 PM
Manu got the best in-crowd-passes, he is phenomenal tbqh

urunobili
08-25-2014, 07:00 PM
Finally found a video with the dunk on Diop with the flagrant not called on josh howard....

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Proxy
08-25-2014, 08:33 PM
Finally found a video with the dunk on Diop with the flagrant not called on josh howard....



nice find, I haven't seen a few of those plays in a long time.

urunobili
08-25-2014, 08:36 PM
nice find, I haven't seen a few of those plays in a long time.

there could be a top 50 one too! the one on the Pistons in 05 (some on Denver that same year) and the one on Bosh in 14 should make it :P

Proxy
08-25-2014, 09:03 PM
there could be a top 50 one too! the one on the Pistons in 05 (some on Denver that same year) and the one on Bosh in 14 should make it :P

true. I've always loved the ones against the Pistons just for the fact that their defense was so great. I'll always like the one he had off of the tip-off against the Sun in the playoffs even though it wasn't on anyone. Great way to start a game on the road. :lol

Just went through a few videos on youtube... I never blamed Phoenix or Denver fans for hating the shit out of Manu since he torched them so often. I miss those games. I forgot the dunk on Marion was his 48 performance in OT.

Hemotivo
08-25-2014, 11:22 PM
Manu closing out Sonics @SEA 2005

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LxfOV5B9Ko

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Gino was outstanding

ElNono
08-26-2014, 12:56 AM
This was in '08, first game against the Cavs after the '07 Finals... I think this was one of his best seasons...

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