New Michael Brown shooting witnesses describe scene

[FuzzyLumpkins]

(CNN) -- Two men, shocked at what they saw, describe an unarmed teenager with his hands up in the air as he's gunned down by a police officer.

They were contractors doing construction work in Ferguson, Missouri, on the day Michael Brown was killed.

And the men, who asked not to be identified after CNN contacted them, said they were about 50 feet away from Officer Darren Wilson when he opened fire.

An exclusive video captures their reactions during the moments just after the shooting.

"He had his f**n hands up," one of the men says in the video.

The man told CNN he heard one gunshot, then another shot about 30 seconds later.

"The cop didn't say get on the ground. He just kept shooting," the man said.

That same witness described the gruesome scene, saying he saw Brown's "brains come out of his head," again stating, "his hands were up."

The video shows the man raising his arms in the air -- just as, he says, Brown was doing when he was shot.

The other contractor told CNN he saw Brown running away from a police car.

Brown "put his hands up," the construction worker said, and "the officer was chasing him."

The contractor says he saw Wilson fire a shot at Brown while his back was turned.

The men said they didn't see how the confrontation started.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/10/us/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-witnesses/index.html

[TheSanityAnnex]

(CNN) -- Two men, shocked at what they saw, describe an unarmed teenager with his hands up in the air as he's gunned down by a police officer.

They were contractors doing construction work in Ferguson, Missouri, on the day Michael Brown was killed.

And the men, who asked not to be identified after CNN contacted them, said they were about 50 feet away from Officer Darren Wilson when he opened fire.

An exclusive video captures their reactions during the moments just after the shooting.

"He had his f**n hands up," one of the men says in the video.

The man told CNN he heard one gunshot, then another shot about 30 seconds later.

"The cop didn't say get on the ground. He just kept shooting," the man said.

That same witness described the gruesome scene, saying he saw Brown's "brains come out of his head," again stating, "his hands were up."

The video shows the man raising his arms in the air -- just as, he says, Brown was doing when he was shot.

The other contractor told CNN he saw Brown running away from a police car.

Brown "put his hands up," the construction worker said, and "the officer was chasing him."

The contractor says he saw Wilson fire a shot at Brown while his back was turned.

The men said they didn't see how the confrontation started.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/10/us/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-witnesses/index.html

This doesn't line up with the audio recording they are trying to use. And this guy says he heard two shots? None of the witnesses for Brown can get their stories straight. What a joke.

[boutons_deux]

This doesn't line up with the audio recording they are trying to use. And this guy says he heard two shots? None of the witnesses for Brown can get their stories straight. What a joke.

three of the witnesses agree. Wilson is fucked (I hope).

And Wilson LIED about his injuries. FPD is gonna get fucked, too.

[pgardn]

This doesn't line up with the audio recording they are trying to use. And this guy says he heard two shots? None of the witnesses for Brown can get their stories straight. What a joke.

And the witnesses FOR Brown all line up perfectly.

[pgardn]

three of the witnesses agree. Wilson is fucked (I hope).

And Wilson LIED about his injuries. FPD is gonna get fucked, too.

Why do you hope this way? What about the Frkn truth?

[TheSanityAnnex]

And the witnesses FOR Brown all line up perfectly.
They line up with the only unbiased (not interviewed but caught on camera describing the incident, audio caught on video)
No surprise this upstanding youth hasn't come forward publicly.

[TheSanityAnnex]

three of the witnesses agree. Wilson is fucked (I hope).

And Wilson LIED about his injuries. FPD is gonna get fucked, too.
Are you including Dorian Johnson aka Robbery accomplice as a witness? Lol

[pgardn]

They line up with the only unbiased (not interviewed but caught on camera describing the incident, audio caught on video)
No surprise this upstanding youth hasn't come forward publicly.

Thanks but I will wait for the trial.

[ChumpDumper]

They line up with the only unbiased (not interviewed but caught on camera describing the incident, audio caught on video)
No surprise this upstanding youth hasn't come forward publicly.Youth? How old do you think those two guys are.

Did you even know there were two of them?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Youth? How old do you think those two guys are.

Did you even know there were two of them?
What the fuck are you blabbering about? I'm obviously not talking about those two in the OP. the ONLY unbiased account is from the youth whose audio was caught describing the incident first hand on video. You know, the ONLY person who hasn't come forward to share what really happened with investigators.

[ChumpDumper]

What the fuck are you blabbering about? I'm obviously not talking about those two in the OP. the ONLY unbiased account is from the youth whose audio was caught describing the incident first hand on video. You know, the ONLY person who hasn't come forward to share what really happened with investigators.So how are the contractors everyone but you has been talking about in this thread biased?

Please explain.

[TheSanityAnnex]

So how are the contractors everyone but you has been talking about in this thread biased?

Please explain.
So how did you fuck up and not know I wasn't talking about the contractors?

Answer that first.

And I'll answer yours now cause I'm about to wipe my ass and log off.

I find it highly suspicious these two contractors account comes out just now, and he recounts two shots?

Ive said it from the start, Brown's "witnesses" have all been frauds, until further proof these two are no different. Hands up don't shoot my ass.

[ChumpDumper]

So how did you fuck up and not know I wasn't talking about the contractors?

Answer that first. I just assumed you would talk about the OP.

I wouldn't call that a fuckup. I'm not following this as rabidly as you to confirm your own bias.


And I'll answer yours now cause I'm about to wipe my ass and log off.

I find it highly suspicious these two contractors account comes out just now, and he recounts two shots?

Ive said it from the start, Brown's "witnesses" have all been frauds, until further proof these two are no different. Hands up don't shoot my ass.So they're highly suspicious because you think they are highly suspicious.

OK.

Sounds about right for you.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

TSA is about as insightful as WC. He just spams more.

[MultiTroll]

(CNN) The man told CNN he heard one gunshot, then another shot about 30 seconds later.

And yet 6 shots (or more?) were fired. Yet these two were "50 feet away" but only heard 2 shots. :rolleyes


The video shows the man raising his arms in the air -- just as, he says, Brown was doing when he was shot.
The other contractor told CNN he saw Brown running away from a police car.
And yet the autopsy has all the wounds in the front.

Sounds like a couple of frauds.

[DD]

These "witnesses" would get massacred during cross examination by any decent attorney:lol

[TheSanityAnnex]

I just assumed you would talk about the OP.

I wouldn't call that a fuckup. I'm not following this as rabidly as you to confirm your own bias.
stop trying to cover your ass. I clearly discussed the OP and said their account doesn't line up with the audio. I also clearly said the OP account of hearing two shots doesn't line up.



So they're highly suspicious because you think they are highly suspicious.

OK.

Sounds about right for you.see above for highly suspicious. Own up to your fuck up and stop acting like a fag.

[TheSanityAnnex]

TSA is about as insightful as WC. He just spams more.
This article clearly contradicts your claim the other day of 6 gunshots you stupid fuck. It's sad that CNN has the power to print garbage like this that suckers in the likes of idiots like you who can't use a shred of critical thinking.

[TheSanityAnnex]

TSA is about as insightful as WC. He just spams more.

:cry 2 shots...6 shots...minutiae :cry

[ChumpDumper]

stop trying to cover your ass. I clearly discussed the OP and said their account doesn't line up with the audio. I also clearly said the OP account of hearing two shots doesn't line up.


see above for highly suspicious. Own up to your fuck up and stop acting like a fag.Highly suspicious why?

They were saying what they said right after the shooting.

What are you saying is there motivation to make up a story on the spot and stick to it weeks later?

[ElNono]

No indictment yet? surprise, surprise

[TheSanityAnnex]

Highly suspicious why?

They were saying what they said right after the shooting.

What are you saying is there motivation to make up a story on the spot and stick to it weeks later?
Never said they made up a story did I? I said their story doesn't line up with the other that doesn't line up with other that doesn't line up with the other etc. Start from the beginning and count how many times Brown's witnesses' stories have changed. Than count how many times Wilson's witnesses' stories have changed. See the difference?

[TheSanityAnnex]

No indictment yet? surprise, surprise
It's got to be tough for detectives to sort through all the bullshit stories that are made up.

[ChumpDumper]

Never said they made up a story did I? I said their story doesn't line up with the other that doesn't line up with other that doesn't line up with the other etc. Start from the beginning and count how many times Brown's witnesses' stories have changed. Than count how many times Wilson's witnesses' stories have changed. See the difference?You say it's suspicious.

What is your suspicion of these specific witnesses in the OP?

How many times has their story changed?

[ChumpDumper]

Never said they made up a story did I?


It's got to be tough for detectives to sort through all the bullshit stories that are made up.crofl

Please make a list of all the stories you believe are made up.

[Shastafarian]

Yeah wait I wasn't aware of stories changing. Links?

[Infinite_limit]

(CNN) -- Two men, shocked at what they saw, describe an unarmed teenager with his hands up in the air as he's gunned down by a police officer.

They were contractors doing construction work in Ferguson, Missouri, on the day Michael Brown was killed.

And the men, who asked not to be identified after CNN contacted them, said they were about 50 feet away from Officer Darren Wilson when he opened fire.

An exclusive video captures their reactions during the moments just after the shooting.

"He had his f**n hands up," one of the men says in the video.

The man told CNN he heard one gunshot, then another shot about 30 seconds later.

"The cop didn't say get on the ground. He just kept shooting," the man said.

That same witness described the gruesome scene, saying he saw Brown's "brains come out of his head," again stating, "his hands were up."

The video shows the man raising his arms in the air -- just as, he says, Brown was doing when he was shot.

The other contractor told CNN he saw Brown running away from a police car.

Brown "put his hands up," the construction worker said, and "the officer was chasing him."

The contractor says he saw Wilson fire a shot at Brown while his back was turned.

The men said they didn't see how the confrontation started.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/10/us/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-witnesses/index.html
Meh. He dead now

[ElNono]

It's got to be tough for detectives to sort through all the bullshit stories that are made up.

They don't have to prove the case right now. That's what the eventual trial is for. Not difficult to find cases where people have been indicted with much less information.

Just wondering what's taking the prosecution and grand jury so long...

[TheSanityAnnex]

crofl

Please make a list of all the stories you believe are made up.
My name is Derrick
you sure?
I mean my name is Dorian
what happened in the liquor store?
Nothing happened in the liquor store
you sure?
he may have stole something
there is video you sure?
ok he committed assault and robbery
After that?
Mike didnt do nuffin
you sure?
i mean there was an altercation in his car
and?
He was shot in the back running away
there are no shots in his back
i meant he was shot surrendering on his knees execution style
you sure?
okay he was charging the cop

[ChumpDumper]

My name is Derrick
you sure?
I mean my name is Dorian
what happened in the liquor store?
Nothing happened in the liquor store
you sure?
he may have stole something
there is video you sure?
ok he committed assault and robbery
After that?
Mike didnt do nuffin
you sure?
i mean there was an altercation in his car
and?
He was shot in the back running away
there are no shots in his back
i meant he was shot surrendering on his knees execution style
you sure?
okay he was charging the copNo link, I see.

So the one guy?

What about the two in the OP?

How did their stories change from what they were saying immediately after the shooting?

[TheSanityAnnex]

No link, I see.

So the one guy?

What about the two in the OP?

How did their stories change from what they were saying immediately after the shooting?
The one guy crofl. He's the star fucking witness. Piaget Crenshaw changed her story as well. So did the two other witnesses. All four said he was shot in the back running away. Explain to me how all four got that wrong. Google Anthony Shahid. Now look through pictures of the crime scene. Notice anything?

[ChumpDumper]

You didn't answer my question.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You didn't answer my question.
I already did. Post #22. Never said they made a story up just find it odd he was 50 feet away and only heard two shots.

And sorry for not providing the link. Ive been trying to get it from FuzzyLumpkins but he said he doesn't feel like it.

That does not justify shooting him execution style like the 4 eye witness reports attest to.

why have you not provided the link?

Because I don't feel like it
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238371&page=46

[TheSanityAnnex]

They don't have to prove the case right now. That's what the eventual trial is for. Not difficult to find cases where people have been indicted with much less information.

Just wondering what's taking the prosecution and grand jury so long...
Because Brown's witnesses have been lying? I'm guessing they found the guy who's audio was caught on video describing what happened and said Brown charged Wilson. Prosecutors realize they have no case and are waiting for Ferguson to settle down before announcing Wilson was justified in shooting.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Every account I have read agrees with the following:

Brown was fresh off stealing some smokes from the corner store and walking home. He is walking down the middle of the street with his buddy when the cop passes them. He reverses course and cuts in front of Brown and his friend facing them. There is a scuffle through the open window and a shot fired. The door is opened and Brown tries to run away. Some more shots are fired. Brown turns around and yet more shots are fired.

In the case of these construction worker's account it talks about how Brown had run into their view with the cop chasing before he was shot. That gives you a sense of the distances involved. Brown died 20 yards or so away from the cop car the scuffle took place in.

[ChumpDumper]

I already did. Post #22. Never said they made a story up just find it odd he was 50 feet away and only heard two shots.

And sorry for not providing the link. Ive been trying to get it from FuzzyLumpkins but he said he doesn't feel like it.



http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238371&page=46The thing is you said it was suspicious.

Why?

What would be the agenda of two contractors from out of town?

[Fabbs]

The thing is you said it was suspicious.

Why?

What would be the agenda of two contractors from out of town?
10K interview fee.

[ChumpDumper]

10K interview fee.Do you have the link to the fee amount?

Are you saying they planned this all out by making up a story on the spot then weeks later offered up the story they made up for $10,000?

[TheSanityAnnex]

three of the witnesses agree. Wilson is fucked (I hope).

And Wilson LIED about his injuries. FPD is gonna get fucked, too.

How do you know he lied about his injuries?

kd1ByVHjKgE

[Fabbs]

Do you have the link to the fee amount?

Are you saying they planned this all out by making up a story on the spot then weeks later offered up the story they made up for $10,000?
:lol RumpHumper born yesterday.
I was going to post this in the same post, knowing your lame predictability.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You didn't answer my question.
I did, and you refuse to acknowledge how the witness stories changed as more evidence came out. Why is that so hard for you to admit?

[ChumpDumper]

:lol RumpHumper born yesterday.
I was going to post this in the same post, knowing your lame predictability.So you're saying you just made it up.

OK.

That was also predictable.

[ChumpDumper]

I did, and you refuse to acknowledge how the witness stories changed as more evidence came out. Why is that so hard for you to admit?Which story did both of these two contractors mentioned in the OP change?

[TheSanityAnnex]

The thing is you said it was suspicious.

Why?

What would be the agenda of two contractors from out of town?
Quite a big difference between 2 shots and 6+ shots. Now let's get back to the witnesses changing stories as it is clear you you refuse to acknowledge that and are trying to steer this conversation away from that.

[Fabbs]

So you're saying you just made it up.

OK.

That was also predictable.
:lol RumpHumper
:lol Thinks sleazeball media never makes deals and / or announce every deal made.

Link me to where the Three Weeks Later Contractors never received a deal.
Oh, you can't.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Which story did both of these two contractors mentioned in the OP change?

Never said they changed any story. Still refusing to discuss the witnesses that did change their story I see.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Keep saying the same unsubstantiated shit is not going to make it suddenly come true. All the accounts agree on everything from my narrative.

This disagreement is around whether or not Brown came back and/or put his hands up when he turned around and got brained.

People have been uncertain about what or how many shots hit and TSA is trying to hand wave as if said uncertainty makes it such that people are intentionally trying to mislead.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Every account I have read agrees with the following:

Brown was fresh off stealing some smokes from the corner store and walking home. He is walking down the middle of the street with his buddy when the cop passes them. He reverses course and cuts in front of Brown and his friend facing them. There is a scuffle through the open window and a shot fired. The door is opened and Brown tries to run away. Some more shots are fired. Brown turns around and yet more shots are fired.

In the case of these construction worker's account it talks about how Brown had run into their view with the cop chasing before he was shot. That gives you a sense of the distances involved. Brown died 20 yards or so away from the cop car the scuffle took place in.

You forgot to mention Brown committed robbery and assaulted a store clerk. You also forgot to mention the account you were talking about earlier where the four witnesses said Brown was killed execution style with his hands up. By the way where was the link to that, Chumpdumper asked for it to be provided.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Keep saying the same unsubstantiated shit is not going to make it suddenly come true. All the accounts agree on everything from my narrative.

This disagreement is around whether or not Brown came back and/or put his hands up when he turned around and got brained.

People have been uncertain about what or how many shots hit and TSA is trying to hand wave as if said uncertainty makes it such that people are intentionally trying to mislead.

The only unbiased account, and by that I mean not a coached interview before talking to police, is the audio of the guy who didn't know he was being recorded, and he says Brown charged the officer.


Are you saying 2 shots and 6+ shots are just minutiae?

[ChumpDumper]

Quite a big difference between 2 shots and 6+ shots. Now let's get back to the witnesses changing stories as it is clear you you refuse to acknowledge that and are trying to steer this conversation away from that.You're the only one bringing up the other witnesses to muddy the waters.

I have only been talking about the contractors in the OP.

So far, you have stated no reason to view their statement as suspicious (why would anyone make up FEWER shots if they had an anti cop agenda?) and admitted they didn't change their story one iota.

Thank you.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol RumpHumper
:lol Thinks sleazeball media never makes deals and / or announce every deal made.

Link me to where the Three Weeks Later Contractors never received a deal.
Oh, you can't.crofl straight to the logical fallacy when you know you've lost.

You're terrible at life.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You forgot to mention Brown committed robbery and assaulted a store clerk. You also forgot to mention the account you were talking about earlier where the four witnesses said Brown was killed execution style with his hands up. By the way where was the link to that, Chumpdumper asked for it to be provided.

You suck at reading. I don't write what I write for your sake, sophist.

Now go rub some bleach in your eyes and then drink some.

[TheSanityAnnex]

People have been uncertain about what or how many shots hit and TSA is trying to hand wave as if said uncertainty makes it such that people are intentionally trying to mislead.4 key witnesses were trying to intentionally mislead, you know, the ones who said he was shot in the back and then killed execution style while on his knees. The 4 witnesses you refuse to link. Were you aware all 4 have since changed their stories?

[ChumpDumper]

The only unbiased account, and by that I mean not a coached interview before talking to police, is the audio of the guy who didn't know he was being recorded, and he says Brown charged the officer.So the contractors were coached and knew they were being recorded seconds after the shooting?

[TheSanityAnnex]

You're the only one bringing up the other witnesses to muddy the waters.

I have only been talking about the contractors in the OP.

So far, you have stated no reason to view their statement as suspicious (why would anyone make up FEWER shots if they had an anti cop agenda?) and admitted they didn't change their story one iota.

Thank you.
Where did I say anything about them having an anti-cop agenda? I simply stated their story doesn't line up with the other accounts. That's great you just want to talk about the contractors, but it makes no sense to not compare their account to the others.

So, why are you still refusing to discuss how the other witnesses changed their stories?

[TheSanityAnnex]

You suck at reading. I don't write what I write for your sake, sophist.

Now go rub some bleach in your eyes and then drink some.
You suck at admitting you said Mike Brown was shot in the back running away and then killed execution style with his hands up.

[TheSanityAnnex]

So the contractors were coached and knew they were being recorded seconds after the shooting?
Were they interviewed by police?

[ChumpDumper]

Where did I say anything about them having an anti-cop agenda? I simply stated their story doesn't line up with the other accounts.So are they to be dismissed out of hand?

You're waving them away?


So, why are you still refusing to discuss how the other witnesses changed their stories?What is there to discuss? Am I supposed to to be taking one side or another out of confirmation bias like you?

[ElNono]

Because Brown's witnesses have been lying? I'm guessing they found the guy who's audio was caught on video describing what happened and said Brown charged Wilson. Prosecutors realize they have no case and are waiting for Ferguson to settle down before announcing Wilson was justified in shooting.

Well, prosecutors have not formally charged him with anything, AFAIK, that's public knowledge, there's nothing to wait for there... haven't kept much track but I haven't heard they have any theory of what happened either? That's weird.

Ultimately, I suspect they're going to hide behind the grand jury, who has to decide...

[TheSanityAnnex]

You suck at reading. I don't write what I write for your sake, sophist.




Mike Brown was a criminal. That does not justify shooting him execution style like the 4 eye witness reports attest to. Cop got beat up and scared perhaps but even that does not excuse shooting him once he had stopped and put his hands up.

[ChumpDumper]

Were they interviewed by police?I don't know. Some shitty police work if they didn't interview witnesses to an officer involved shooting. I would call that suspicious on the part of the police.

Do you think the contractors were coached and knew they were being recorded seconds after the shooting?

Please answer.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Well, prosecutors have not formally charged him with anything, AFAIK, that's public knowledge, there's nothing to wait for there... haven't kept much track but I haven't heard they have any theory of what happened either? That's weird.

Ultimately, I suspect they're going to hide behind the grand jury, who has to decide...
Abc video I posted in this thread says they've been shown pictures of Wilson's facial injuries at the hospital.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I don't know. Some shitty police work if they didn't interview witnesses to an officer involved shooting. I would call that suspicious on the part of the police.

Do you think the contractors were coached and knew they were being recorded seconds after the shooting?

Please answer.
No.
And you know I was talking about the 4 witnesses being coached, the ones who all changed their stories, the ones you refuse to discuss.

[ChumpDumper]

No.
And you know I was talking about the 4 witnesses being coached, the ones who all changed their stories, the ones you refuse to discuss.Again, what is there to discuss?

Please explain why you want to do anything but discuss the actual topic of this thread and change it to something else?

These are different witnesses we are currently discussing. You are doing everything in your power to lump them in with witnesses you have declared to be discredited. Says more about you than me tbh.

[Fabbs]

crofl straight to the logical fallacy when you know you've lost.

You're terrible at life.
Rumpy, getting his/her frustration on.

[ChumpDumper]

Rumpy, getting his/her frustration on.You made the claim. Then cried like a bitch when you got called on it.

lol frustration

Prove to me you don't rape and murder children.

You can't!

Victory!

[Fabbs]

Again, what is there to discuss?
:lol Rumpys unending attempt to change subject.

Here is link for your style and use Rumpy:
http://www.johnsonville.com/products/hot-italian-links/image/italianHotSausageLinks.png

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Rumpys unending attempt to change subject.

Here is link for your style and use Rumpy:
http://www.johnsonville.com/products/hot-italian-links/image/italianHotSausageLinks.pnglol Fabbs just mad because he has been exposed as a child rapist and murder.

You didn't even deny it!

Proof!

[Fabbs]

You made the claim. Then cried like a bitch when you got called on it.

lol frustration

Prove to me you don't rape and murder children.

You can't!

Victory!
No Rumpy, i never claimed there was for a fact a 10K interview price paid. I suggested it as potential motivation.
I knew you would glom on and have fished you for 6 posts since.
Tossing you back now. :lol

Gee weighing whether to do an interview or not, then letting the money talk and doing it. As if that never happens.

[ChumpDumper]

No Rumpy, i never claimed there was for a fact a 10K interview price paid. I suggested it as potential motivation.
I knew you would glom on and have fished you for 6 posts since.
Tossing you back now. :lol

Gee weighing whether to do an interview or not, then letting the money talk and doing it. As if that never happens.Child rape and murder happens.

And you still have yet to deny it.

I knew you wouldn't deny it initially!

More proof!

[Fabbs]

Child rape and murder happens.

And you still have yet to deny it.

More proof!
Jump Rumpy Jump.

[ChumpDumper]

Jump Rumpy Jump.Rape and murder children, Fabbs.


lol still wont' deny it.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Again, what is there to discuss?

Please explain why you want to do anything but discuss the actual topic of this thread and change it to something else?

These are different witnesses we are currently discussing. You are doing everything in your power to lump them in with witnesses you have declared to be discredited. Says more about you than me tbh.

In this thread YOU asked what stories I thought were made up and I said the 4 witness accounts. Don't ask questions and then when given answers refuse to discuss them.

is it really necessary to create another thread to discuss why they changed their stories or can we just do it here?

[Fabbs]

Rape and murder children, Fabbs.


lol still wont' deny it.
Jump Rumpy Jump!

[ChumpDumper]

In this thread YOU asked what stories I thought were made up and I said the 4 witness accounts. Don't ask questions and then when given answers refuse to discuss them.I just wanted to know if you included the contractors' stories among those you think are made up.

You explicitly don't, so that was all I needed from that discussion.


is it really necessary to create another thread to discuss why they changed their stories or can we just do it here?So again, what is there to discuss?

Despite your best efforts to lump the OP stories in with those you claim are made up, it didn't happen. The waters are much less muddy thanks to your admissions. I think that rather helps the discussion about the OP.

[ChumpDumper]

Jump Rumpy Jump!lol Fabbs fucked by his own tactic.

Sorry, Fabbs. You shit all over yourself. Go try to wash it off.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Chump if you can get him to link us to these 4 witness accounts I will open a new thread for discussion, I don't know why he refuses to link it for me. :lol


Mike Brown was a criminal. That does not justify shooting him execution style like the 4 eye witness reports attest to. Cop got beat up and scared perhaps but even that does not excuse shooting him once he had stopped and put his hands up.

[Fabbs]

lol Fabbs fucked by his own tactic.

Sorry, Fabbs. You shit all over yourself. Go try to wash it off.
Jump Rumpy Jump!

[ChumpDumper]

I don't even know what anyone means by execution style. No one gets executed like that.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I think that rather helps the discussion about the OP.You've discussed the OP less than anyone in this thread.

[ChumpDumper]

:cry

[ChumpDumper]

You've discussed the OP less than anyone in this thread.Don't get upset because I thwarted your little plan here.

You needed to be reeled in.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Brown was killed over 10 yards away from the cop car. There were at least 8 shots fired. They pulled a bullet out of an apartment across the street and from the cop car itself. Plus there were the 6 that Dr. Baden accounted for hitting Brown.

The cop obviously came out of the car guns blazing. Couldn't even hit Brown until he stopped. Guy should have kept running.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I don't even know what anyone means by execution style. No one gets executed like that.

When someone turns around surrenders and gets shot in the head then that is an execution. It's a meaningless characterization beyond being inflammatory and that is why dipshit wants to fixate on it. I refuse to play along.

I have him utilizing the search function and spam posting though. Good times.

[Aztecfan03]

Keep saying the same unsubstantiated shit is not going to make it suddenly come true. All the accounts agree on everything from my narrative.

This disagreement is around whether or not Brown came back and/or put his hands up when he turned around and got brained.

People have been uncertain about what or how many shots hit and TSA is trying to hand wave as if said uncertainty makes it such that people are intentionally trying to mislead.

2 shots in no way supports any of the other "Brown was surrendering" stories.

[Aztecfan03]

You're the only one bringing up the other witnesses to muddy the waters.

I have only been talking about the contractors in the OP.

So far, you have stated no reason to view their statement as suspicious (why would anyone make up FEWER shots if they had an anti cop agenda?) and admitted they didn't change their story one iota.

Thank you.

It is suspicious because it doesn't match up with any of the other stories or any of the evidence.

[ChumpDumper]

It is suspicious because it doesn't match up with any of the other stories or any of the evidence.But why automatically "suspicious"?

Why is claiming to see/hear fewer shots somehow seen as nefarious by the pro cop camp?

[Aztecfan03]

But why automatically "suspicious"?

Why is claiming to see/hear fewer shots somehow seen as nefarious by the pro cop camp?

It isn't that it is more that it doesn't fit with anything so it would seem to be false.

But now that i have looked at it moore, i think it is just shitty reporting that is causing confusion. I think the guy heard more than just two shots.





The man told CNN he heard one gunshot, then another shot about 30 seconds later.
"The cop didn't say get on the ground. He just kept shooting," the man said."

[ChumpDumper]

It isn't that it is more that it doesn't fit with anything so it would seem to be false.

But now that i have looked at it moore, i think it is just shitty reporting that is causing confusion. I think the guy heard more than just two shots.



That could easily be the case. The "kept shooting" part makes me thin that You'd think the editors would know this story would be dissected.

[ElNono]

Abc video I posted in this thread says they've been shown pictures of Wilson's facial injuries at the hospital.

hopefully they've seen more than that...

[Aztecfan03]

That could easily be the case. The "kept shooting" part makes me thin that You'd think the editors would know this story would be dissected.

It would make more sense if they said they heard one shot and then more shots 30 seconds later. so i don't really no what to think. I havent listened to the video yet so i don't know if that would clear anything up.

[ChumpDumper]

It would make more sense if they said they heard one shot and then more shots 30 seconds later. so i don't really no what to think. I havent listened to the video yet so i don't know if that would clear anything up.Doesn't really help.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I hope they don't think the contractor only said two shots were fired. Listen to it again. He said that there were two shots and then "he kept firing at him."

This is consistent with the 8 bullets I just talked about.

Brown should have kept running. Only chance the guy had.

[TheSanityAnnex]

When someone turns around surrenders and gets shot in the head then that is an execution. It's a meaningless characterization beyond being inflammatory and that is why dipshit wants to fixate on it. I refuse to play along.

I have him utilizing the search function and spam posting though. Good times.
Why are you afraid to post the link? It wouldn't ruin the credibility of the witnesses would it?

[Fabbs]

Eyewitness testimony for all cases in and of itself has been proven to be generally inconsistent.
For either side.

Credibility, other evidence should be weighed heavily.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I hope they don't think the contractor only said two shots were fired. Listen to it again. He said that there were two shots and then "he kept firing at him."

This is consistent with the 8 bullets I just talked about.

Brown should have kept running. Only chance the guy had.
He had a chance to not rob, assault, and attack an officer.

[Fabbs]

He had a chance to not rob, assault, and attack an officer.
Boom.
Humpkins playing da innascant viktim card. :rolleyes

[boutons_deux]

How do you know he lied about his injuries?

kd1ByVHjKgE

It's the police, a small town white police force vs a black town, police will ALWAYS lie, or say nothing, to protect their own, aka, The Blue Wall.

[pgardn]

All this media presenting witnesses and statements is getting old.

Its not clear at all what happened except a police officer shot and killed Brown.
I don't trust his friend, I don't trust some cops after the way they handled this.

Realize the prosecuting attorney has never indicted a police officer after a shooting. Read about the Democrat Prosecutor boots. He apparently has done some highly unorthodox handling of theses types of indictments. Lots of articles on this. This may never go to trial.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Boom.
Humpkins playing da innascant viktim card. :rolleyes

You guys cannot read for shit. What was the first sentence in the narrative i gave earlier?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Plus there were the 6 that Dr. Baden accounted for hitting Brown.


Would would anyone pay attention to your narrative when it is filled with failures like this above.

The autopsy you are referring to was done by Shawn Parcells, Baden gave his opinion on it only to lend it credibility. Some are saying he wasn't even present during the autopsy. Baden was unaware Parcells is not licensed to do autopsies, the medical community is furious Parcells is practicing without a license and misrepresenting himself. Parcells was hired by the Brown family. The unlicensed Parcells gave his unlicensed opinion of the autopsy on National television. Think about that for a minute.

The chief medical examiner of St. Louis county Dr. Mary Case performed the first autopsy of Michael Brown, she said what Parcells did was abysmal. "He is doing forensic autopsies that may send someone to prison, and he is not a physician, much less a forensic pathologist"-Dr. Mary Case

[TheSanityAnnex]

You guys cannot read for shit. What was the first sentence in the narrative i gave earlier?

This narrative?




Mike Brown was a criminal. That does not justify shooting him execution style like the 4 eye witness reports attest to. Cop got beat up and scared perhaps but even that does not excuse shooting him once he had stopped and put his hands up.

[boutons_deux]

Ferguson’s massive cover-up: How police departments are protecting Michael Brown’s killer

http://www.salon.com/2014/09/14/fergusons_massive_cover_up_how_police_departments_ are_protecting_michael_browns_killer/

[spurraider21]

No indictment yet? surprise, surprise
its looking like another Zimmerman story where prosecutors know they don't have a winning case, and its basically just public pressure

[boutons_deux]

its looking like another Zimmerman story where prosecutors know they don't have a winning case, and its basically just public pressure

You Lie. The FL prosecutor simply didn't to convict Z, was intentionally incompetent. Plenty of prosecutors pointed at all kinds obvious stuff that prosecutors could have done differently. Then there is the judge's jury instructions skewed badly by the gun fellators' and NRA whores SYG law.

In Ferguson, the prosecutor and PD are most probably colluding extremely closely to get all their stories straight, doing everything they can, NOT to indict Wilson, esp letting time pass for the national spotlight to move on.

[spurraider21]

You Lie. The FL prosecutor simply didn't to convict Z, was intentionally incompetent. Plenty of prosecutors pointed at all kinds obvious stuff that prosecutors could have done differently. Then there is the judge's jury instructions skewed badly by the gun fellators' and NRA whores SYG law.

In Ferguson, the prosecutor and PD are most probably colluding extremely closely to get all their stories straight, doing everything they can, NOT to indict Wilson, esp letting time pass for the national spotlight to move on.
:lol you are a political caricature

[boutons_deux]

According to the Associated Press (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_POLICE_SHOOTING_UTAH_COUNTY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-09-14-16-33-36), the autopsy concluded that Hunt was shot “numerous times, all from the rear.”

“This is consistent with statements made by witnesses on the scene, who report that Darrien was shot to death while running away from police,” family attorney Randall Edwards said in a statement. “It would appear difficult, if not impossible, to reconcile these facts with a story that Darrien was lunging toward the officers when he was shot.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/blog/2014/09/14/utah-man-accused-of-attacking-police-with-samurai-sword-was-shot-in-the-back-autopsy/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

Milwaukee cop won’t be charged despite video proving she lied about seeing illegal strip searches


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/wisconsin-police-800x430.jpg


Milwaukee police officers who were being investigated for obstructing an inquiry into illegal cavity searches will not be facing charges, The Journal Sentinel reports (http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/officers-investigated-for-hampering-strip-search-inquiry-not-charged-b99345460z1-275030441.html).

Last month, a jury awarded (http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/milwaukee-police-strip-search-lawsuit-set-to-go-to-federal-jury-b99326446z1-270330811.html) Leo Hardy more than half a million dollars after it determined that Officers Michael Gasser and Keith Garland Jr. “maliciously,” and with “reckless disregard” for his Hardy’s civil rights, subjected him to an illegal strip and cavity search.

However, that verdict hinged not on the manner in which the search was performed — it was rendered because the officers lacked probable cause to initiate the search in the first place.

It is but the first of over 60 such cases (http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/ex-milwaukee-officer-gets-26-months-in-prison-for-strip-cavity-searches-b9938948z1-212486141.html) against the Milwaukee police currently in the works.

In the latest related investigation, Officer Stephanie Seitz told investigators that she had not witnessed any of the alleged searches, even though in one of the videos obtained by the prosecution, she can clearly be seen standing a few feet away from an illegal strip and cavity search.

When prosecutors discovered this video that contradicted her sworn testimony, they initiated a perjury investigation. The prosecutor’s office determined that she had been “clearly untruthful” when she claimed not to have seen a fellow officer remove drugs from a man’s rectal cavity.

Police spokespeople said that the video alone — in which she can be seen “looking directly at” another officer as he performed an illegal search — was not enough evidence to prove that her lying hampered the department’s investigations into the strip and cavity searches, however.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/blog/2014/09/14/milwaukee-cop-wont-be-charged-despite-video-proving-she-lied-about-seeing-illegal-strip-searches/

[TheSanityAnnex]

You Lie. The FL prosecutor simply didn't to convict Z, was intentionally incompetent. Plenty of prosecutors pointed at all kinds obvious stuff that prosecutors could have done differently. Then there is the judge's jury instructions skewed badly by the gun fellators' and NRA whores SYG law.You lie. The Zimmerman case had nothing to do with the SYG law as he claimed basic self defense.


In Ferguson, the prosecutor and PD are most probably colluding extremely closely to get all their stories straight, doing everything they can, NOT to indict Wilson, esp letting time pass for the national spotlight to move on.Has it ever occurred to you that Wilson was telling the truth?

[boutons_deux]

You lie. The Zimmerman case had nothing to do with the SYG law as he claimed basic self defense.

Has it ever occurred to you that Wilson was telling the truth?

The judge's OBLIGATORY INSTRUCTIONS TO THE JURY were completely different under FL SYG vs without SYG.

Wilson's a cop, he's lying, and FPD is lying, too.

[TheSanityAnnex]

The judge's OBLIGATORY INSTRUCTIONS TO THE JURY were completely different under FL SYG vs without SYG.
the case had nothing to do with SYG.


Wilson's a cop, he's lying, and FPD is lying, too.

So far the only people we know that have lied have been from Brown's side. Dorian Johnson, the 4 eyewitnesses who changed their stories once the autopsy report came out, and Shawn Parcells, who was hired by the Brown family and lied about his qualifications and is not licensed to perform autopsies.

[vy65]

The judge's OBLIGATORY INSTRUCTIONS TO THE JURY were completely different under FL SYG vs without SYG.

Wilson's a cop, he's lying, and FPD is lying, too.

You realize that jury instructions are drafted and negotiated by counsel, not the judge, right?

[vy65]

You realize that jury instructions are drafted and negotiated by counsel, not the judge, right?

Errm, meant the charge. Jury instructions are standard boiler plate.

[boutons_deux]

Errm, meant the charge. Jury instructions are standard boiler plate.

jury instructions must conform to, eg, the FL SYG law. GZ didn't have to claim SYG. He murdered TM

[vy65]

jury instructions must conform to, eg, the FL SYG law. GZ didn't have to claim SYG. He murdered TM

True, but irrelevant. The prosecution had a role in drafting the charge, so why are you blaming this on the judge?

[Trill Clinton]

Ferguson’s massive cover-up: How police departments are protecting Michael Brown’s killersalon.com (http://www.salon.com/2014/09/14/fergusons_massive_cover_up_how_police_departments_ are_protecting_michael_browns_killer/)

Basic evidence is being kept from the public. And investigators aren’t showing proper zeal to figure out the truth

I urge everyone to read this. It’s a long read, so I’ll point out a few things.

The Ferguson Police department has delayed and directly denied access to documents that are required by law to be made, required by their own written policy to be made, and are required by state and federal law to be public.

Among them is the Incident Report, and the Use of Force form.



The Incident Report was said to not be needed.
When faced with why that’s a lie, the police department responded that officers don’t have to fill out an incident report due to the 5th amendment.




When told Darren Wilson would have to official invoke that right, they admitted he hadn’t.
When they did finally turn over an Incident Report, it was missing legally required information, in fact all it had was a date, location, and time.
When told that more information was required, they returned an Incident Report with all of the information filled out, but then redacted (blacked out) all the way back to date, location, and time.

There is no proof any Use of Force form was ever filled out. Or any evidence that the Incident Reports sent in were ever filled out by Darren Wilson. There is no proof in fact that legally or policy required procedure was followed.

At the very least they have already admitted by their own policy that Darren Wilson has committed a fire-able offense by not filling out the paperwork. But he has not been fired, he is on paid leave, no charges have been placed, and no reprimand or penalty on his job has been enacted.

And let me go back to the bold, they tried to use the defense that Darren Wilson didn’t have to write down what happened BECAUSE IT WOULD INCRIMINATE HIM.

[CosmicCowboy]

Oh my GOD! A FORM wasn't filled out!!!!!!

[ElNono]

its looking like another Zimmerman story where prosecutors know they don't have a winning case, and its basically just public pressure

Yet Zimmerman was tried... the threshold to indict isn't really that high. Just surprising we've not heard so far what the prosecution theory is... after all, you would think they're presenting it to the grand jury...

[spurraider21]

Yet Zimmerman was tried... the threshold to indict isn't really that high. Just surprising we've not heard so far what the prosecution theory is... after all, you would think they're presenting it to the grand jury...
he was only tried after months of public pressure tbh. but yeah i'd agree the prosecution is being pretty lethargic in mizzou

[TheSanityAnnex]

Bump for the updated FuzzyLumpkins narrative.

[Aztecfan03]

According to the Associated Press (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_POLICE_SHOOTING_UTAH_COUNTY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-09-14-16-33-36), the autopsy concluded that Hunt was shot “numerous times, all from the rear.”

“This is consistent with statements made by witnesses on the scene, who report that Darrien was shot to death while running away from police,” family attorney Randall Edwards said in a statement. “It would appear difficult, if not impossible, to reconcile these facts with a story that Darrien was lunging toward the officers when he was shot.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/blog/2014/09/14/utah-man-accused-of-attacking-police-with-samurai-sword-was-shot-in-the-back-autopsy/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

half the links you post on this forum are fake articles and they all have that same stupid font so I usually don't even bother.

[boutons_deux]

half the links you post on this forum are fake articles and they all have that same stupid font so I usually don't even bother.

You Lie

trash talking fonts, and a really nasty one like ... Arial ! :lol

[m>s]

Fuck off kike

[Aztecfan03]

You Lie

trash talking fonts, and a really nasty one like ... Arial ! :lol

I'm not saying that one is but you are always posting articles from sites similar to the onion.

[TheSanityAnnex]

:depressedI saw this thread at the top and was hoping FuzzyLumpkins graced us with more of his false narratives to tear apart.

[Th'Pusher]

:depressedI saw this thread at the top and was hoping FuzzyLumpkins graced us with more of his false narratives to tear apart.
Lol. You're spinning like a top for some attention from fuzzy.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Lol. You're spinning like a top for some attention from fuzzy.

Do you have some sort of notification set up on your phone or desktop that alerts you when I post? You quote me within seconds of me clicking reply. Since you're here to defend fuzzy like the jizz rag you are what are your thoughts on the outright lies in his narratives he refuses to comment on?

[Th'Pusher]

Do you have some sort of notification set up on your phone or desktop that alerts you when I post? You quote me within seconds of me clicking reply. Since you're here to defend fuzzy like the jizz rag you are what are your thoughts on the outright lies in his narratives he refuses to comment on?

I could find 100s of your posts that lack a response from me. We just happened to be online at the same time. For fuck's sake. How does that happen?

I'm not defending fuzzy. I simply find it amusing you're begging him to respond to you...you can't let it go. Now you want me to weigh in on it. Why don't you offer to suck his dick. Maybe that'll do the trick.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I could find 100s of your posts that lack a response from me. We just happened to be online at the same time. For fuck's sake. How does that happen?The moment you see TSA posted you run to the thread and respond, it happens within the minute. I wouldn't mention it if it were not the case.


I'm not defending fuzzy. I simply find it amusing you're begging him to respond to you...you can't let it go. Now you want me to weigh in on it. Why don't you offer to suck his dick. Maybe that'll do the trick.Ah but he's got you here to suck his dick on a daily basis, why would he need me?

I'm not begging him to respond, I'm mocking him for being a coward that won't own up to his already proven as bullshit narrative he keeps touting as fact.

[Th'Pusher]

The moment you see TSA posted you run to the thread and respond, it happens within the minute. I wouldn't mention it if it were not the case..

I see tons of your shitty posts that I never respond to.


I'm not begging him to respond, I'm mocking him for being a coward that won't own up to his already proven as bullshit narrative he keeps touting as fact.

just offer to suck his dick. You're an admitted fellator. Maybe he'll give you what you clearly want so bad.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I see tons of your shitty posts that I never respond to.



just offer to suck his dick. You're an admitted fellator. Maybe he'll give you what you clearly want so bad.
Is this your tried and true method for getting what you want?

[Th'Pusher]

Is this your tried and true method for getting what you want?
:td

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Lol. You're spinning like a top for some attention from fuzzy.

It's sad really. I told someone else that I realized that it was an inflammatory characterization. I have no interest in arguing stupid superfluous shit but it is somewhat amusing watching him meltdown.

[TheSanityAnnex]

It's sad really. I told someone else that I realized that it was an inflammatory characterization. I have no interest in arguing stupid superfluous shit but it is somewhat amusing watching him meltdown.
lol superfluous facts

lol facts are minutiae

lol your narrative

lol you stupid fuck

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This guy is great. Gives the nazi a page or so of racial guilt stupidity because of his name and even a wiley snake can verify this flaglot argument.

Here is the cops saying 35 feet. That is what I have also said before because it's an official statement.

s4osIUmBAWI#t=85

Here are two pics from the day of the shooting indicating where the cop car and the corpse were. The link a the bottom has a lot more angles and explains in more detail. These are just the barebones of his argument.

512636222234046464

512636423275429888

512637256599748608

Brown got brained about 3 times as far away from the cop car then the police's official statement.

https://storify.com/VeryWhiteGuy/shaunking-exposes-ferguson-pd-lie-about-distance-f

[ChumpDumper]

Now they'll just say what a good shot the cop is.

[TheSanityAnnex]

This guy is great. Gives the nazi a page or so of racial guilt stupidity because of his name and even a wiley snake can verify this flaglot argument.

Here is the cops saying 35 feet. That is what I have also said before because it's an official statement.

s4osIUmBAWI#t=85

Here are two pics from the day of the shooting indicating where the cop car and the corpse were. The link a the bottom has a lot more angles and explains in more detail. These are just the barebones of his argument.

512636222234046464

512636423275429888

512637256599748608

Brown got brained about 3 times as far away from the cop car then the police's official statement.

https://storify.com/VeryWhiteGuy/shaunking-exposes-ferguson-pd-lie-about-distance-f

Shaun King? He's stealing images from another site and claiming he reconstructed the scene :lmao

BRB. Going to find where he's stealing the images from, I saw them a week ago.

:lol @ FuzzyLumpkins. Duped again.

Pic from Shaun King's link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bx1AiYqCcAANkuH.jpg (http://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/512636892903272448/photo/1)

[TheSanityAnnex]

I found it

Pic from conservative treehouse

http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/canfield-map-2-with-general-locations.jpg?w=640&h=425

He stole all the pictures from the site theconservativetreehouse.com

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/08/28/mike-brown-shooting-part-1-what-the-physical-evidence-reveals-along-with-enhanced-audio-transcription-of-eye-witness/

And the pictures he stole were used on this site to back up the evidence of the audio caught on tape saying Brown charged Wilson. They also expose the black activist Anthony Shahid coaching the witnesses.


"Summary: Physical evidence seems to contradict the claims of the highly publicized eye witnesses and the attorney’s of Mike Brown’s family – Daryl Parks and Benjamin Crump.
The physical evidence seems to support the “Josie” account of a confrontation and a charging Big Mike, including the Autopsy.The only way Daryl Parks audio recording can be accurate is if it’s incomplete.All of the “eye witnesses” speaking on behalf of the Parks and Crump team, were physically together after the shooting as the media arrived and all in conversation with a notorious activist Anthony Shahid. All located on the North side of the street in the grassy knoll.All of the non-grassy knoll witnesses contradict the statements given by those witnesses who stood around Green Shirt guy Anthony Shahid while awaiting the media and police.
What are the odds ?"

:lol Fraud King
:lol stupid fucking FuzzyLumpkins

[TheSanityAnnex]

I just emailed the owner of the site, wonder how much longer Fraud King's stolen pictures will be up on twitter.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Now they'll just say what a good shot the cop is.

Most people have issues aiming hanguns past twenty yards. The cop had to chase him down to shoot him.

If the cop was indeed felt threatened such that his own like was danger he did not need to get out of the car to chase a kid running down the middle of the street.

The fact that Brown was killed nearly 50 yards from the car door speaks very poorly of Wilson's decision-making.

It's why I liked the guys presentation. Any monkey can reproduce it using readily available materials from the web. You can then go to google maps and measure the approximate distance yourself. You can listen to the FPD statement yourself. Very compelling I think.

[TheSanityAnnex]

FuzzyLumkins contributions to thread:

1. cites Michael Brown was shot in back running away and then killed execution style on knees with hands up surrendering not knowing the 4 witnesses had already changed their story :lol

2. cites autopsy report done by Shaun Parcells who is unlicensed and hired by Brown family, medical community furious with Parcells :lol

3. cites twitter user Fraud King who stole pictures from another site and pretended he recreated the crime scene himself, stolen pictures were actually detailing how Brown's witnesses lied :lol

4. ???? :lol

[ChumpDumper]

theconservativetreehouse owns Google Maps?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

theconservativetreehouse owns Google Maps?

He is really stupid. It's why I don't bother responding to him. That the material is so readily available is kinda the point. It gets boring talking to him about poor critical thinking and reading skills; I ignore him.

[TheSanityAnnex]

theconservativetreehouse owns Google Maps?

Shaun King is using their pictures with all of the diagrams and ms paint they provided diagramming the scene. It's blatant fraud. You obviously didn't open either link to compare.

[ElNono]

lol fraud

[TheSanityAnnex]

He is really stupid. It's why I don't bother responding to him. That the material is so readily available is kinda the point. It gets boring talking to him about poor critical thinking and reading skills; I ignore him.
You've made a complete fool of yourself in this thread, it is well documented here for all to see.

:lol critical thinking
:lol reading skills
:lol internet sleuth

[ChumpDumper]

Shaun King is using their pictures with all of the diagrams and ms paint they provided diagramming the scene. It's blatant fraud. You obviously didn't open either link to compare.Which fraud law are you going with here?

I think the Google maps screenshot with labels will stay up forever. It's Google Maps.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Which fraud law are you going with here?

I think the Google maps screenshot with labels will stay up forever. It's Google Maps.

Calling Shaun King Fraud King made me chuckle so I ran with it. Doesn't change the fact that he ripped all of his pictures from that site and tried to pass it off as his own detective work. Fuzzy swallowed it up too.

I'll let you know when I hear back from @thelastrefuge on how their convo with @shaunking went and what he had to say.

[TheSanityAnnex]

This thread has lacked an actual contribution for a while.

Here you go. Wilson testifies in front of grand jury. Also interesting that if not indicted all transcripts will be released to public. Mccolluch must be pretty confident with the evidence to say that.

http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/darren-wilson-testifies-in-front-of-grand-jury/article_74022ab8-756f-5e1d-81b3-3c577f1e9208.html?mobile_touch=true

[ChumpDumper]

Calling Shaun King Fraud King made me chuckle so I ran with it. Doesn't change the fact that he ripped all of his pictures from that site and tried to pass it off as his own detective work. Fuzzy swallowed it up too. So you don't think any actual fraud was committed.


I'll let you know when I hear back from @thelastrefuge on how their convo with @shaunking went and what he had to say.What is there to say?

I see a lot of vidcaps from various media sources and a couple of Google Maps screenshots. What copyright do you think theconservativetreehouse.com has over USA Today, CNN, local tv and Google Maps screenshots?

[TheSanityAnnex]

So you don't think any actual fraud was committed.

What is there to say?

I see a lot of vidcaps from various media sources and a couple of Google Maps screenshots. What copyright do you think theconservativetreehouse.com has over USA Today, CNN, local tv and Google Maps screenshots?

Are you this hung up on me calling him Fraud King or is this a way to deflect from FuzzyLumpkins 3rd blunder?

If its the former have fun continuing on by yourself. I'm having a fun time watching Fuzzy flounder about.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And he is going to stick with the fraud argument ladies and gentleman.

lol fraud

[ChumpDumper]

Are you this hung up on me calling him Fraud King or is this a way to deflect from FuzzyLumpkins 3rd blunder?

If its the former have fun continuing on by yourself. I'm having a fun time watching Fuzzy flounder about.Well, you're talking like he committed actual fraud and/or copyright violations.

Over and over, in fact.

If all I'm doing is making you walk back from your breathless claims, that's worth an lol.

lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This guy is great. Gives the nazi a page or so of racial guilt stupidity because of his name and even a wiley snake can verify this flaglot argument.

Here is the cops saying 35 feet. That is what I have also said before because it's an official statement.

s4osIUmBAWI#t=85

Here are two pics from the day of the shooting indicating where the cop car and the corpse were. The link a the bottom has a lot more angles and explains in more detail. These are just the barebones of his argument.

512636222234046464

512636423275429888

512637256599748608

Brown got brained about 3 times as far away from the cop car then the police's official statement.

https://storify.com/VeryWhiteGuy/shaunking-exposes-ferguson-pd-lie-about-distance-f

I am not going to allow lol fraud to bump a very good argument off the last page for new readers.

[TheSanityAnnex]

And he is going to stick with the fraud argument ladies and gentleman.

lol fraud

Nice job ignoring me.


Three simple questions I've got for you. Just answer yes or no, don't be a coward.

Did you say Michael Brown was shot in the back and then killed execution style on his knees with his hands up surrendering? Yes or no.

Did you cite an autopsy report by an unlicensed and unqualified man who has been publicly belittled by the medical community for doing so? Yes or no.

Did you cite a twitter user who stole another websites pictures/maps/diagrams and tried to pass it off as his own work? Yes or no.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/nTX/BLB/nTXBLBgEc.gif

[Fabbs]

:wakeup

:lol Rumpy this is your cue to go into hiding.

[ChumpDumper]

:wakeup

:lol Rumpy this is your cue to go into hiding.?

[TheSanityAnnex]

:lmao a dozen people, try one website you hack.


Shaun King @ShaunKing
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I'm done. I want to thank a dozen people who asked not to be named but worked their butts off to sleuth those facts. Arrest Darren Wilson.
9:37 AM - 18 Sep 2014

[TheSanityAnnex]

I am not going to allow lol fraud to bump a very good argument off the last page for new readers.
I am not going to allow lol blunder to try and pass off Shaun King's lazy and deceiving link as a good argument. He literally takes all the information/research/timeline/pictures from linked thread below and tries to present it as his own. It's truly pathetic, even more pathetic someone here is trying to present it as a good well thought out argument. Lol FuzzyBlunders

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/08/28/mike-brown-shooting-part-1-what-the-physical-evidence-reveals-along-with-enhanced-audio-transcription-of-eye-witness/



I'll keep dancing on you as long as you keep avoiding admitting to your collasal fuck ups.
:lol too big of an ego to admit when you're wrong anonymously.

[TheSanityAnnex]

What up Th'Slurper! Knew you'd stop in for some shielding.

[Th'Pusher]

What up Th'Slurper! Knew you'd stop in for some shielding.
Lol. You're such moron. You're too stupid to see what an idiot you look like to the readers of this thread. Yet you go on, banging away at your keyboard like a chimp, completely oblivious to how absolutely stupid you look to everyone.

And just to pile on :lol fraud

[TheSanityAnnex]

Lol. You're such moron. You're too stupid to see what an idiot you look like to the readers of this thread. Yet you go on, banging away at your keyboard like a chimp, completely oblivious to how absolutely stupid you look to everyone.

And just to pile on :lol fraud
Shield activated!!!

Tell your sperm soaker to stop spreading misinformation and I'll back off. Until them I'll continue to expose his shit takes he tries to pass off as truth.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I will allow this to be presented again for the new readers.


I am not going to allow lol blunder to try and pass off Shaun King's lazy and deceiving link as a good argument. He literally takes all the information/research/timeline/pictures from linked thread below and tries to present it as his own. It's truly pathetic, even more pathetic someone here is trying to present it as a good well thought out argument. Lol FuzzyBlunders

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/08/28/mike-brown-shooting-part-1-what-the-physical-evidence-reveals-along-with-enhanced-audio-transcription-of-eye-witness/

[ChumpDumper]

Well, specious fraud and copyright claims aside, what are you saying is factually wrong with King's tweets?

[Th'Pusher]

Well, specious fraud and copyright claims aside, what are you saying is factually wrong with King's tweets?
Exactly. Answer this question TSA. You're not suggesting kings message is ripped form the right wing sight you obviously frequent, are you?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Well, specious fraud and copyright claims aside, what are you saying is factually wrong with King's tweets?

I've never once said anything is factually wrong with them. Never even went there because he is just some random white guilt twitter douche.

Do you take a twitter user who can't do his own research as solid source?

What is factually wrong with the conservative treehouse evidence presented?

[ChumpDumper]

I've never once said anything is factually wrong with them. So why the fraud/copyright meltdown?

Just an attempt to discredit evidence you can't find factually wrong?

This is a weird tangent for you.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Exactly. Answer this question TSA. You're not suggesting kings message is ripped form the right wing sight you obviously frequent, are you?
Apparently answering questions isn't required in this thread. I've asked your sperm bank multiple times and have not got one answer. Why would I give an answer to his shield?

[TheSanityAnnex]

So why the fraud/copyright meltdown?

Just an attempt to discredit evidence you can't find factually wrong?

This is a weird tangent for you.
Why skip over my other two questions. Answer those and we'll continue.

[ChumpDumper]

Do you take a twitter user who can't do his own research as solid source?If it's factually correct, why not? He and the conservative blog thanked others for doing research they posted. The only reason you want to condemn one is because you don't agree with the author's viewpoint.


What is factually wrong with the conservative treehouse evidence presented?I have not found anything factually wrong with anything, nor have I tried to discredit anyone but you here. Seeing as I made you walk back time after time, you needed it.

[ChumpDumper]

Now you can answer these questions:
So why the fraud/copyright meltdown?

Just an attempt to discredit evidence you can't find factually wrong?

This is a weird tangent for you.

[Th'Pusher]

Apparently answering questions isn't required in this thread. I've asked your sperm bank multiple times and have not got one answer. Why would I give an answer to his shield?

I told you how to get him to answer you. And just for the fun of it, can you show the images side by side that you feel King copped from the right ring rag you frequent?

[TheSanityAnnex]

If it's factually correct, why not? He and the conservative blog thanked others for doing research they posted. The only reason you want to condemn one is because you don't agree with the author's viewpoint.now you are putting words in my mouth. Find me one post attacking his viewpoint.


I have not found anything factually wrong with anything, nor have I tried to discredit anyone but you here. Seeing as I made you walk back time after time, you needed it.The two links can not co-exist factually. I've you'd read both that would be fairly obvious.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I told you how to get him to answer you. And just for the fun of it, can you show the images side by side that you feel King copped from the right ring rag you frequent?

You lazy fuck. Open up two windows in your browser and do it on your own.

[ChumpDumper]

I told you how to get him to answer you. And just for the fun of it, can you show the images side by side that you feel King copped from the right ring rag you frequent?After a cursory look, the similar pictures used are actually more heavily cropped and edited on the conservative site, It's weird that random tweeters are so hot to brand vidcaps from CNN or USA Today after they put a couple of MSPaint lines on it.

I don't see it as an indictment on the information being presented, but who's to say everything they did was original research anyway?

I can't see this as anything but an attempt to distract from any real issues that might arise from the blog and or twitter feed.

[ChumpDumper]

now you are putting words in my mouth. Find me one post attacking his viewpoint.I didn't say you condemned his viewpoint. You tried to discredit him because he had that viewpoint.


The two links can not co-exist factually. I've you'd read both that would be fairly obvious.Of course they can exist. One can be more accurate than the other, but they can certainly both exist.

So I will ask you again, what is factually wrong with the twitter feed you have been condemning all night?

[Th'Pusher]

I can't see this as anything but an attempt to distract from any real issues that might arise from the blog and or twitter feed.
agreed. does this make me a semen shield? I really dont want to be branded as a semen shield.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I don't see it as an indictment on the information being presented, but who's to say everything they did was original research anyway?

:lol than what does that say for Shaun King and his "research"?

[ChumpDumper]

:lol than what does that say for Shaun King and his "research"?It says the same thing it does for "research" of the person or persons who refuse to use their names on your blog.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I didn't say you condemned his viewpoint. You tried to discredit him because he had that viewpoint.

I discredited FuzzyLumpkins for citing a hack like Shaun King and trying to pass it off as some sort of fact.

No different than when he made the claim Michael Brown was shot in the back and then killed execution style on his knees with his hands up surrendering, only to have that claim blow up in his face after then witnesses all changed their stories once the autopsy came out.

No different than when he cited an autopsy report done by a man who was hired by the Brown family that was unlicensed and unqualified to do any sort of official autopsy, let alone get on National news and tell his results to millions of viewers.

Had anyone here posted the link to the conservative treehouse it would have been shredded, Shaun King is no different, aside from being a whiny pussy on his twitter account.

[ChumpDumper]

I discredited FuzzyLumpkins for citing a hack like Shaun King and trying to pass it off as some sort of fact.

No different than when he made the claim Michael Brown was shot in the back and then killed execution style on his knees with his hands up surrendering, only to have that claim blow up in his face after then witnesses all changed their stories once the autopsy came out.

No different than when he cited an autopsy report done by a man who was hired by the Brown family that was unlicensed and unqualified to do any sort of official autopsy, let alone get on National news and tell his results to millions of viewers.

Had anyone here posted the link to the conservative treehouse it would have been shredded, Shaun King is no different, aside from being a whiny pussy on his twitter account.So you have still not said one thing about the actual veracity of the content compared to that of the blog.

The tangent continues.

[TheSanityAnnex]

So you have still not said one thing about the actual veracity of the content compared to that of the blog.

The tangent continues.

My tangent has remained consistent despite your attempts to sidetrack and it will continue on as such.

[ChumpDumper]

My tangent has remained consistent despite your attempts to sidetrack and it will continue on as such.A tangent is a sidetrack.

I accept your refusal to discuss the veracity of the twitter feed as an admission your only purpose is now to sidetrack and go off on tangents that don't have anything to do with actual issues or facts relevant to the Michael Brown shooting.

[Fabbs]

blah blah blah.

[ChumpDumper]

:cry

[Th'Pusher]

My tangent has remained consistent despite your attempts to sidetrack and it will continue on as such.
Consistently devoid of any valid original content or thought. It's just an emotional rant because you don't like Shaun King's narrative, yet you don't seem to have an issue with the rightwing rag? You've really devolved into a political hack. You have as much credibility as WC or Che or m>s. Seriously man, you've turned into a really shitty poster tbh.

Maybe go back to the gun stuff. At least you had some tactical knowledge about the subject you were attempting to discuss. You're just shitting your pants in this thread and the most embarrassing aspect is that you seem to be completely oblivious to the huge fucking grunt steaming in your shorts.

[Fabbs]

:cry
I won't be fishing you tonight Rumpy.

[ChumpDumper]

I won't be fishing you tonight Rumpy.You never do.

No big deal.

You just post some stupid nicknames and run.

[TheSanityAnnex]

A tangent is a sidetrack.

I accept your refusal to discuss the veracity of the twitter feed as an admission your only purpose is now to sidetrack and go off on tangents that don't have anything to do with actual issues or facts relevant to the Michael Brown shooting.FuzzyLumpkins has been posting "facts" that have already been proven untrue. I am on a tangent FOR facts concerning the case. Any bullshit will be called out as such.

[ChumpDumper]

FuzzyLumpkins has been posting "facts" that have already been proven untrue. I am on a tangent FOR facts concerning the case. Any bullshit will be called out as such.You have yet to call any bullshit regarding the twitter feed.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Consistently devoid of any valid original content or thought. It's just an emotional rant because you don't like Shaun King's narrative, yet you don't seem to have an issue with the rightwing rag? You've really devolved into a political hack. You have as much credibility as WC or Che or m>s. Seriously man, you've turned into a really shitty poster tbh.

Maybe go back to the gun stuff. At least you had some tactical knowledge about the subject you were attempting to discuss. You're just shitting your pants in this thread and the most embarrassing aspect is that you seem to be completely oblivious to the huge fucking grunt steaming in your shorts.
See above post, you are completely off base as usual.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You have yet to call any bullshit regarding the twitter feed.
You've yet to call bullshit on fuzzylumpkins.

[ChumpDumper]

You've yet to call bullshit on fuzzylumpkins.I usually don't read his posts.

Why are you trying to rubber/glue everyone now? That would only be relevant if your actions were totally dependent on the actions and of others and their perceptions of you.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So you have still not said one thing about the actual veracity of the content compared to that of the blog.

The tangent continues.

It's pretty much why I am comfortable just reposting the take each new page after he spams. There is no point in arguing with stupid.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This guy is great. Gives the nazi a page or so of racial guilt stupidity because of his name and even a wiley snake can verify this flaglot argument.

Here is the cops saying 35 feet. That is what I have also said before because it's an official statement.

s4osIUmBAWI#t=85

Here are two pics from the day of the shooting indicating where the cop car and the corpse were. The link a the bottom has a lot more angles and explains in more detail. These are just the barebones of his argument.

512636222234046464

512636423275429888

512637256599748608

Brown got brained about 3 times as far away from the cop car then the police's official statement.

https://storify.com/VeryWhiteGuy/shaunking-exposes-ferguson-pd-lie-about-distance-f

[spurraider21]

This guy is great. Gives the nazi a page or so of racial guilt stupidity because of his name and even a wiley snake can verify this flaglot argument.

Here is the cops saying 35 feet. That is what I have also said before because it's an official statement.

s4osIUmBAWI#t=85

Here are two pics from the day of the shooting indicating where the cop car and the corpse were. The link a the bottom has a lot more angles and explains in more detail. These are just the barebones of his argument.

512636222234046464

512636423275429888

512637256599748608

Brown got brained about 3 times as far away from the cop car then the police's official statement.

https://storify.com/VeryWhiteGuy/shaunking-exposes-ferguson-pd-lie-about-distance-f
how did he get the distance in the third picture from the first 2?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

how did he get the distance in the third picture from the first 2?

You can use the pictures to look for landmarks to judge the locations and thus distance on a separate map. He claims to have actually walked it in Ferguson but you can do it yourself using google maps.

[spurraider21]

You can use the pictures to look for landmarks to judge the locations and thus distance on a separate map. He claims to have actually walked it in Ferguson but you can do it yourself using google maps.
what landmarks are used? anybody can say "i walked there and used landmarks" and draw arbitrary points on a bigger map

[FuzzyLumpkins]

what landmarks are used? anybody can say "i walked there and used landmarks" and draw arbitrary points on a bigger map

Trees, buildings, sidewalks, driveways, etc. You can look at all the photos they ahve of the body and at the truck and place them. If you disagree with a location they used then by all means point it out.

[spurraider21]

Picture #2 shows no potential landmarks whatsoever

[TheSanityAnnex]

I usually don't read his posts.

They are usually filled with inaccuracies so if you are concerned with the facts as you claim you should start reading them.

[TheSanityAnnex]

It's pretty much why I am comfortable just reposting the take each new page after he spams. There is no point in arguing with stupid.

Why are you so uncomfortable reposting and discussing your take on Brown being shot in the back and then killed execution style with hands up surrendering? And why are you so uncomfortable reposting and discussing the autopsy report you cited that was done by unlicensed man?

[TheSanityAnnex]

I just stumbled on this amazing breakdown of facts on how everything unfolded during the shooting.


We have now digested several thousand hours of assembled video -and still imagery- of the scene around the Mike Brown shooting. Here is what the physical evidence is showing so far. (all images can be made larger simply by clicking on them)

Thank You to everyone who continues to research and wade through everything to find the facts.First it’s important to gain an understanding of the geography. We have selected some common names and nicknames to attribute to particular places, people and venues. Here is a general map to help understand the who’s, what’s and where’s:
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/canfield-map-2-with-general-locations.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/canfield-map-2-with-general-locations.jpg)
To make things easier to explain we are going to summarize that Canfield Dr. runs East and West. Areas to the top of the images are North, and areas below Canfield are South.
Mike Brown and Dorian Johnson were travelling East on Canfield Drive. Officer Wilson was travelling West. Brown and Johnson were essentially walking down the center of the street.
At some point Mike and Dorian crossed paths with Officer Wilson. And, according to all statements from Dorian as well as Wilson as relayed by his friend “Josie”, Officer Wilson slowed down as he passed and told them to get out of the street and on to the sidewalk.
Wilson then began to continue headed West. According to Johnson, the officer stopped, reversed quickly and engaged them again. According to “Josie” this is because the description of two males involved in a strong-armed robbery came through the radio and Wilson noted the two he just passed fit the profile.

[TheSanityAnnex]

As Wilson reversed he passed Brown and Johnson, then turning his steering wheel slightly counter clockwise he cut them off, blocking their path – leaving his SUV essentially diagonal to the center line. (His front bumper facing essentially North, and the rear of his SUV facing South).
At this point a confrontation takes place. I’ll skip the he said / he said and just relay the evidence. Something happened at the vehicle – all accounts verify some sort of struggle ensued, punches were thrown while Wilson was seated (or shoved) back into the vehicle, and a struggle for the officers firearm took place.
At least one shot was fired at this point.
This is a critical juncture, because this is where the physical evidence comes into play.
As you can see there is a brass shell casing next to the Driver Door of Wilson’s SUV. [*update* this item might be a bracelet - under review]
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/wilson-truck-with-shell-casing-highlighted.jpg?w=640&h=360 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/wilson-truck-with-shell-casing-highlighted.jpg)
If shell casing(s) this would indicate at least one shot being fired. Additionally you can see the St Louis Cardinal ball cap belonging to “Big Mike” Brown, and what appears to be a package of cigars, or an overturned slide sandal, toward the curbing.
Here is another aspect of the same area:
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/wilson-vehicle-4-1.png?w=640&h=360 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/wilson-vehicle-4-1.png)
In the above image note the side view mirror bent forward possibly as part of the struggle at the drivers side. In addition to the three evidence cones at the vehicle you can also see three evidence marking cones in the distance.
(*NOTE* Telephoto lenses can play tricks on distance).

[TheSanityAnnex]

The three evidence markers at the SUV are for (1) the brass shell casing *or bracelet*, (2) the ballcap, and (3) the cigar/sandal. Here’s another perspective:
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/wilson-vehicle-3.jpg?w=640 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/wilson-vehicle-3.jpg)
And pulling back further you can still see them as indicated:
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/wilson-vehicle-2.jpg?w=640&h=360 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/wilson-vehicle-2.jpg)
But where is the vehicle in relationship to the Body of Mike Brown ?
For orientation and perspective here’s another overhead map:
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/0005-rough-sketch.jpg?w=640&h=439 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/0005-rough-sketch.jpg)
Now you might ask what’s the yellow trajectory line of a bullet for ?
Well, there was a bullet recovered from the just above the Ground Floor Window in that building.
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/bullet-hole-2.jpg?w=640 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/bullet-hole-2.jpg)
Two of the siding panels were removed by police to get the bullet from the wall just above the window:
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/bullet-hole-11.jpg?w=640 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/bullet-hole-11.jpg)
And if you zoom in on this image taken by local media you can see the location again:

[TheSanityAnnex]

And if you zoom in on this image taken by local media you can see the location again:
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/0002.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/0002.jpg)
Again, so we can provide orientation without getting too lost here is the primary overview so you can judge distances and scale:http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/canfield-map-2-with-general-locations.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/canfield-map-2-with-general-locations.jpg)
And again with vehicle and location of Big Mike’s body: (two perspectives)
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/jason-screenshot-map-mike-brown-shooting.png?w=640&h=334 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/jason-screenshot-map-mike-brown-shooting.png)
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/0005-rough-sketch.jpg?w=640&h=439 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/0005-rough-sketch.jpg)
If the image is a shell casing -at the drivers door- this could be the bullet located just above the ground floor window. We can think of no reason for Wilson to fire in that direction once both he and Big Mike were in direct line of sight and opposition to each other (the blue line above).
The most reasonable explanation for the bullet striking the building was that being the shot fired while the struggle for the firearm was taking place.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Witness Piaget Crenshaw lives in the apartment as noted just North of Canfield Dr. Directly between the location of Wilson’s SUV and Mike Brown’s body.
Looking out from her balcony to the right she would see this:
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/piaget-perspective.png?w=640&h=345 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/piaget-perspective.png)
[*Note*:Tiffany Mitchell took this photo from Piaget Crenshaw's apartment of officer Darren Wilson's SUV].
Turning left from Piaget Crenshaw’s balcony she would capture this image:
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/big-mike-body-and-evidence-cones1.jpg?w=645&h=484 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/big-mike-body-and-evidence-cones1.jpg)
Notice the evidence cones in the picture above, just South of Big Mike’s body. Remember what I said about telephoto lenses causing optical distortions?
Here’s how those same three cones appear from the distance shot of Darren Wilson’s SUV:
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/wilson-vehicle-4.png?w=640&h=360 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/wilson-vehicle-4.png)Again, perspective matters:
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/0005-rough-sketch.jpg?w=640&h=439 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/0005-rough-sketch.jpg)We have identified a total of seven evidence cones: One is a hat, one is a pack of cigars/sandal, and one is at least one shell casing at the drivers door (*or a bracelet), the other 4 we are unsure about.
One of the markers is about mid-way between the SUV and Big Mike’s body.
We can surmise, based on the number of identified shots in the autopsy, some of those markers are additional shell casings from Wilson firing rounds toward an approaching (all frontal) Big Mike.
We’ll expand on the location of the people next, the “high profile” witnesses who have made numerous media rounds. Suffice to say their individual statements don’t come anywhere close to matching the totality of known physical evidence so far. Except for one recorded statement.
One accidentally recorded account.
We call this the “hidden witness” or the “Black Canseco” video because it we picked up on it early – and, so far, this testimonial has withstood scrutiny.
You should listen to it carefully and make up your own mind.
Essentially the witness is saying a fight took place at the SUV, a shot was heard, Big Mike took off running, the officer gave chase, big Mike turned and came back toward the officer, and despite several initial shots – Big Mike kept coming which surprised the witness.
Again for perspective this video was taken on the South side of the street – the witness testimonial is given from the same side.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Big Mike’s body just to the right, Officer Wilson’s SUV down the road to the left. Reference the map again and follow along with the enhanced transcription:
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/canfield-map-2-with-general-locations.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/canfield-map-2-with-general-locations.jpg)
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/jason-screenshot-map-mike-brown-shooting.png?w=640&h=334 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/jason-screenshot-map-mike-brown-shooting.png)
This is an enhanced transcription to the eye witness account located in the background of the Black Canseco U-Tube Video #6 above.
So far all of the physical evidence supports this account.
Witness #1 perception was that the police officer was a bad shot, because Big Mike kept coming at the police officer (listen to the surprised tone/dismay of the witness as he shares his account, as well as the words he is saying).

6:05-6:11 WITNESS 2: They ran right past me as I was goin..coming out the house… the dude with the dred…
6:11 INQUIRER/WITNESS 2: I went back in. [talks over the next line/inquirer]
6:12 INQUIRER: What about him?
6:13 WITNESS 1: That’s the one that ran behind this way here, ’cause he ran up there where we was at, where we live at.
6:18 WITNESS 2: When I came back outside, all I seen was the police …the truck, the dudes, I don’t know what happened.
6:26 INQUIRER: Whose hat is that right there?
WITNESS 1: That’s HIS hat.
6:30 INQUIRER: How did he get from there to here?
6:33 WITNESS 1: Cause he ran. The police was still in the truck.
6:35 INQUIRER: They came this way?
6:37 WITNESS 1: Naw… the police was still in the truck..
6:38 WITNESS 1: Dude was like, I don’t know, runnin this way with his hands fightin to get in that truck …
INQUIRER: Why his body come this way though? [Talking over the below witness statement]
6: 42 WITNESS 1: Yeah, Him and the police was in the truck. They was fighting over the truck right now?
6:47 WITNESS 1: But then he ran. The police got out and ran after him.
6:50 WITNESS 1: The next thing I know, he coming back towards the police.
6:53 WITNESS 1: The police had his gun drawn already.
6:55 INQUIRER: Oh, The police shot the gun ? (background)
6:57 WITNESS 1: Yeah, the police shot him…The police kept dumpin’ it.
7:00 WITNESS 1: I’m thinking that the police missing, like he’s like coming toward the police.
7:05 WITNESS 1: I’m thinkin’ like, there’s more comin’.
[chatter]
7:09 WITNESS 1: The police fired shots, The next thing I know, I think he’s missing!
7:12 INQUIRER: The police shot this dude?
7:14 WITNESS 1: The Police shot him.
7:16 WITNESS 1: Next thing I know, I think he’s missin!
7:18 WITNESS 1: Then the dude started running, coming toward the police.
…..[chatter]
8:18 WITNESS 3: I’m tellin you, I heard like, I heard like 8 shots. It was like 4 and then it was like 4 more.
8:24 WITNESS 3: It was like, pop pop pop pop pop and then it stopped for a minute
pop pop pop.
8:27 WITNESS 1 talking to WITNESS 3: The police was like…After how many times you heard that,
8:30 the police was like at least 10 yards away from this dude, and I’m thinking that…
The dude was still standing.
8:32 WITNESS 1: I’m thinkin that he was missing him!
8:35 WITNESS: but he kept coming towards him.
8:40 WITNESS 1: Then the other dude Broke off running.
8:44 WITNESS 1: His Partner ran through…
[chatter]
8:47 WITNESS 1: His partner ran through here man
You might have to listen several times to train your ear to hear only the speakers, or to segregate out what they are saying from other background noise (and the narrator). Headphones help significantly when listening/reading.
And here’s something we feel is important leading to a greater understanding of conflicting witness testimonials.EVERYONE who has given a differing account than what is heard in the Black Canseco video was together in the Grassy Knoll area when the media arrived.
All of the eye-witnesses who have given the alarming testimony of Mike Brown being gunned down while hand’s up in surrender – were all physically located together before giving their initial statements.
Indeed many, if not all, of their initial statements were first given to media as the rest of the group listened.
Everyone who has said Big Mike had his “hands up” or anything related to “hands up, don’t shoot” – were all clustered together in a parking lot just West of Piaget’s apartment

[TheSanityAnnex]

Everyone who has said Big Mike had his “hands up” or anything related to “hands up, don’t shoot” – were all clustered together in a parking lot just West of Piaget’s apartment.
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/canfield-map-2-with-general-locations.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/canfield-map-2-with-general-locations.jpg)
Tiffany Mitchell, Piaget Crenshaw, Michael Brady and Dorian Johnson were all in the same geographic location along with a guy named Anthony Shahid; as was Lesley McSpadden, Big Mike’s mom.
When the media arrived all of these witnesses were together in that area.
This is what it looks like below. This is the grassy knoll area. This is where they gave their initial accounts to the media:
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/dorian-johnson-1.jpg?w=640&h=352 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/dorian-johnson-1.jpg)
Anthony Shahid is the guy in the green shirt standing behind Dorian Johnson
http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/839/7303149086.png (http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/839/7303149086.png)
Seen again here:
http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/839/9072626148.png (http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/839/9072626148.png)
And again HERE
http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/839/2463435512.png (http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/839/2463435512.png)
And again HERE – As they were all assembled:
http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/839/2857565462.png (http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/839/2857565462.png)

[TheSanityAnnex]

But Anthony Shahid is no simple guy in a green shirt. Oh hell no.
This guy is a lifetime card carrying member of the PROFESSIONAL Black Grievance Industry in/around Saint Louis, or in more polite terms “he’s an activists’ activist”:
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/anthony-shahid.jpg?w=640 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/anthony-shahid.jpg)

Lesley McSpadden, mother of slain Michael Brown, (left) and activist Anthony Shahid lead the protest by asking everyone to put their hands up on Sunday evening, Aug. 10, 2014, in Ferguson, at the start of the prayer vigil. Photo by J.B. Forbes, [email protected]
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/shahid-1.jpg?w=640&h=480 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/shahid-1.jpg)Anthony Shahid, “the activist”, likes to wear a police style hat!http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/shahid-2.jpg?w=641&h=427 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/shahid-2.jpg)http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/ferguson-8.jpg?w=636&h=357 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/ferguson-8.jpg)

“The police hat: “I wear the police hat because the police are killing us – and because we need to see more black police leaders.” (link) (http://www.stlamerican.com/news/local_news/article_6440d8aa-266c-11e4-b5de-001a4bcf887a.html)


You have seen him with every witness who was also on the Grassy Knoll immediately following the shooting. Now watch Anthony Shahid (http://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2014/08/ferguson-mo-residents-outraged#start=Qz8kVTH)begin the “Hand’s Up, Don’t Shoot” mantra:http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/840/2236757511.png (http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/840/2236757511.png)Literally on the scene, with Big Mike Brown’s mom at his knees in grief – you see the origin of the montra begin.And so it continued……http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/shahid-3.jpg?w=640&h=480 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/shahid-3.jpg)You can see what he’s been up to since – CLICK HERE (http://www.stltoday.com/search/?k=%22anthony%20shahid%22&t=&l=20&d=&d1=&d2=&f=html&s=start_time&sd=desc&sHeading=Anthony%20Shahid)We’ll get deeper into the “eye witness” accounts later – but for now the general outline of the physical evidence, in relationship to the subjective accounts, all align in a particular direction.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Summary: Physical evidence seems to contradict the claims of the highly publicized eye witnesses and the attorney’s of Mike Brown’s family – Daryl Parks and Benjamin Crump.The physical evidence seems to support the “Josie” account of a confrontation and a charging Big Mike, including the Autopsy.The only way Daryl Parks audio recording can be accurate is if it’s incomplete.All of the “eye witnesses” speaking on behalf of the Parks and Crump team, were physically together after the shooting as the media arrived and all in conversation with a notorious activist Anthony Shahid. All located on the North side of the street in the grassy knoll.All of the non-grassy knoll witnesses contradict the statements given by those witnesses who stood around Green Shirt guy Anthony Shahid while awaiting the media and police.What are the odds ?

[TheSanityAnnex]

THE FACTS :lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Picture #2 shows no potential landmarks whatsoever

There are plenty more pics in the link at the OP. In all of the spam of dipshit above there are plenty more pics.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This guy is great. Gives the nazi a page or so of racial guilt stupidity because of his name and even a wiley snake can verify this flaglot argument.

Here is the cops saying 35 feet. That is what I have also said before because it's an official statement.

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Here are two pics from the day of the shooting indicating where the cop car and the corpse were. The link a the bottom has a lot more angles and explains in more detail. These are just the barebones of his argument.

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Brown got brained about 3 times as far away from the cop car then the police's official statement.

https://storify.com/VeryWhiteGuy/shaunking-exposes-ferguson-pd-lie-about-distance-f

[TheSanityAnnex]

After carefully studying both analysis of the scene it appears the evidence from both comes to support the same conclusion.



Summary: Physical evidence seems to contradict the claims of the highly publicized eye witnesses and the attorney’s of Mike Brown’s family – Daryl Parks and Benjamin Crump.The physical evidence seems to support the “Josie” account of a confrontation and a charging Big Mike, including the Autopsy.The only way Daryl Parks audio recording can be accurate is if it’s incomplete.All of the “eye witnesses” speaking on behalf of the Parks and Crump team, were physically together after the shooting as the media arrived and all in conversation with a notorious activist Anthony Shahid. All located on the North side of the street in the grassy knoll.All of the non-grassy knoll witnesses contradict the statements given by those witnesses who stood around Green Shirt guy Anthony Shahid while awaiting the media and police.What are the odds ?

[Th'Pusher]

TSA in full tailspin

[FuzzyLumpkins]

150 feet from the truck Brown was brained and Wilson started shooting in the truck.

[TheSanityAnnex]

There are plenty more pics in the link at the OP. In all of the spam of dipshit above there are plenty more pics.Wait what??? I'm posting a factual breakdown of the scene just like you. Why would you call that spam? You are extremely hypocritical.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Th'Pusher in Iron Dome semen shield mode.

[TheSanityAnnex]

150 feet from the truck Brown was brained and Wilson started shooting in the truck.

According to your pictures it is smidge over 100 feet. Stop making things up.

[cantthinkofanything]

all these black eyewitnesses and no cell phone footage?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Fresh new page. Lets get back on topic and stop trying to claim either internet sleuths accounts as facts because to do so is just silly. So Wilson testified in front of the grand jury for four hours with no lawyer present, looks like he has nothing to hide.

http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/darren-wilson-testifies-in-front-of-grand-jury/article_74022ab8-756f-5e1d-81b3-3c577f1e9208.html?mobile_touch=true

CLAYTON • Ferguson police Officer Darren Wilson testified here for almost four hours Tuesday in front of the St. Louis County grand jury investigating his shooting Aug. 9 of Michael Brown, a source with knowledge of the investigation said Wednesday.

Wilson was not obligated to appear, and also has spoken with St. Louis County investigators twice and federal investigators once, the source said. The source said Wilson was “cooperative.”
A spokesman for Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch’s office, Ed Magee, refused to comment Wednesday on who had testified.


The shooting of Brown, 18, who was black and unarmed, by Wilson, who is white, gave rise to racially charged protests and looting. Some activists have threatened more of the same if the grand jury does not indict Wilson.

Police have said that Brown struggled with Wilson before being shot. Brown’s family and some witnesses have said Brown was surrendering when he died. Others who have spoken publicly said it was not clear what Brown was doing when he turned toward Wilson after fleeing from their initial encounter.

McCulloch has pledged to present every witness and every shred of evidence to let the grand jurors independently decide whether to indict Wilson, without the prosecutor making a recommendation. Magee has said that prosecutors will help witnesses navigate legal issues.

Veteran defense attorney John Rogers, who is not involved in this case, said Wednesday, “It’s unusual but not unheard of for a prosecutor to extend an invitation” for the target of an investigation to testify to a grand jury. He said he had rarely allowed it.

Witnesses cannot take their attorneys inside the grand jury chamber, although the witnesses may interrupt the proceedings to go outside for a consultation.

“You don’t always want to preview what your defense would be at such an early stage,” Rogers explained. He added, “I would only consider allowing my client to testify at a grand jury proceeding if I was convinced that the prosecutor presenting the evidence to the (grand jury) was convinced that his testimony would help them reach the decision not to indict.”
Attorney Chet Pleban, who is not part of this case but has represented a number of accused police officers, said that sworn grand jury testimony could be used in any state or federal prosecution, potentially exposing the witness to damaging questions.

“The problem in this case is, one way or the other, his story had to be told in order for this grand jury to know what was in his mind,” Pleban said. “And I don’t know any way to accomplish that other than to have him testify.”


Wilson must convince grand jurors that he acted in reasonable fear of death or serious injury, Pleban said, “And he’s pretty much the only one that can do that.”

Evidence is being presented to a grand jury that was empaneled before the shooting, with a term recently extended at the prosecutor’s request to Jan. 7. At one point, McCulloch had predicted a decision in October.
The pace remains uncertain, but Tiffany Mitchell, a witness to the shooting who has spoken publicly about what she saw, has not yet been subpoenaed, her attorney, Peter Cohen, said Wednesday.
McCulloch took the rare step of having audio recordings and a transcript made of the secret proceedings, with a promise to release them publicly if there is no indictment. Magee acknowledged that opening the material would require an order from a judge, who could say no.

Jim Cohen, an associate professor of law at Fordham University, told the Post-Dispatch last month that grand jury material had rarely been made public anywhere, even to scholars researching historical cases. He also worried that fear of being publicly identified might inhibit witnesses.

Magee said McCulloch’s office had talked about the potential effect on witnesses “a little bit” and “it’s still being discussed.” He said prosecutors could decide to withhold witness names, especially those who are not police officers and may have particular safety issues.

He said the names of the grand jurors would not be made public, and it was unclear whether documents would be released that necessarily would carry the foreperson’s signature.

Magee said the timing of the announcement of the grand jury’s decision, once it’s made, was “still being discussed.”
McCulloch urged on Aug. 13 that “anyone and everyone” with relevant information come forward. He said then: “Absolutely everything will be presented to the grand jury, every scrap of paper that we have, every photograph that was taken, every bit of physical evidence that has been gathered, every video clip, anything that we can get.”
“Every witness who has anything at all to say will be presented to the grand jury,” he promised.

McCulloch has delegated management of the grand jury to two assistants: Kathi Alizadeh and Sheila Whirley. Alizadeh, who is white, is a homicide prosecutor with 27 years of experience. Whirley, who is black, has the grand jury assignment, with 18 years of experience.

[ElNono]

lol meltdown

[ChumpDumper]

lol meltdownHe's reached spam level xmas.

[TheSanityAnnex]

:lol @ meltdown and spam

Not my fault vbulletin couldn't handle all those facts in one post.

[Th'Pusher]

TSA the only one oblivious to the fact he's in an emotional nosedive. A complete lack of self awareness. Embarrassing tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

Lets get back on topiccrofl

[Fabbs]

McCulloch has delegated management of the grand jury to two assistants: Kathi Alizadeh and Sheila Whirley. Alizadeh, who is white, is a homicide prosecutor with 27 years of experience. Whirley, who is black, has the grand jury assignment, with 18 years of experience.
Would be interesting to hear from her.
If Wilson is not idicted, wonder if she would be able to reason with the Planet cast.

[spurraider21]

There are plenty more pics in the link at the OP. In all of the spam of dipshit above there are plenty more pics.
i looked at the ones in the link, and the same problem persists. he has a picture of the SUV, and then in the overhead shot he chooses an arbitrary spot to place it without referencing which landmarks he use to locate the correct spot on the map.

i mean for all i know he could be accurate, but there's nothing in particular that suggests it

[TheSanityAnnex]

TSA the only one oblivious to the fact he's in an emotional nosedive. A complete lack of self awareness. Embarrassing tbh.
Wait, do you think I wrote any of that?

[TheSanityAnnex]

i mean for all i know he could be accurate, but there's nothing in particular that suggests itHe said he was there and he has a twitter account, of course it's accurate breh

[spurraider21]

i looked at the ones in the link, and the same problem persists. he has a picture of the SUV, and then in the overhead shot he chooses an arbitrary spot to place it without referencing which landmarks he use to locate the correct spot on the map.

i mean for all i know he could be accurate, but there's nothing in particular that suggests it


He said he was there and he has a twitter account, of course it's accurate breh
it would just be nice if the landmarks he used were pointed out so we can cross reference them between the pictures

[TheSanityAnnex]

it would just be nice if the landmarks he used were pointed out so we can cross reference them between the pictures
He has a twitter account breh

[FuzzyLumpkins]

i looked at the ones in the link, and the same problem persists. he has a picture of the SUV, and then in the overhead shot he chooses an arbitrary spot to place it without referencing which landmarks he use to locate the correct spot on the map.

i mean for all i know he could be accurate, but there's nothing in particular that suggests it

you can do it too if you do not find his positioning to be accurate. use the driveways as landmarks and once you realize that the SUV/corpse are outside the respective driveway and the scale involved it's easy to see.

The SUV is a good bit past the driveway and facing away. The corpse was in the middle of the road just past the driveway on the other side of the street. Look at the pictures and transpose to an overhead.

The name of the street is Canfield Dr. Ferguson, MO.

[Th'Pusher]

Wait, do you think I wrote any of that?

No, you're just a spambot in an emotionally nosedive.

[spurraider21]

you can do it too if you do not find his positioning to be accurate. use the driveways as landmarks and once you realize that the SUV/corpse are outside the respective driveway and the scale involved it's easy to see.

The SUV is a good bit past the driveway and facing away. The corpse was in the middle of the road just past the driveway on the other side of the street. Look at the pictures and transpose to an overhead.

The name of the street is Canfield Dr. Ferguson, MO.
none of the pictures there show the corpse and a driveway

[FuzzyLumpkins]

none of the pictures there show the corpse and a driveway

google helps.

[TheSanityAnnex]

No, you're just a spambot in an emotionally nosedive.

What is a spambot?

[Th'Pusher]

What is a spambot?
Do your own research.

[pgardn]

What is a spambot?

In your own words, what mistakes do you think the Ferguson Police made after the shooting?
Since this case is clear to you, is there anything the police could have done better to make your truth clearer?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Do your own research.
After some research, I don't think you are using the term correctly. Why spambot?

[spurraider21]

google helps.
i would figure a site where a guy supposedly has proof of a debunking would have had it all on his page instead of forcing his readers to conduct their own research

[TheSanityAnnex]

i would figure a site where a guy supposedly has proof of a debunking would have had it all on his page instead of forcing his readers to conduct their own research

The problem with his debunking is he didn't do any of his own research to begin with. He simply took the work others had done, copied it and attached a false narrative with pro-Brown spin on it.

Here is the research he is trying to pass off as his own.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/08/28/mike-brown-shooting-part-1-what-the-physical-evidence-reveals-along-with-enhanced-audio-transcription-of-eye-witness/


And now apparently Shaun King was at the scene when it all unfolded. I'm surprised the police detectives haven't brought him in yet, it would be open and shut if he'd just tell them what he saw.

Shaun King @ShaunKing
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Finally, after a shot grazed Mike's arm, Mike turned around, stopped, put his hands up & unknowingly became a SITTING DUCK for a murderer.
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Unable to kill a fleeing Mike Brown from 100 feet away, Wilson executed Mike Brown face to face when he finally stopped & surrendered.
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It's embarrassing some people are trying to push this hack's narrative.

[TheSanityAnnex]

FuzzyLumpkins I have to thank you for introducing me to Shaun King, I just learned he was the fagtivist who petitioned to get the fundraising site set up for Darren Wilson taken down. LOL at using him as a credible source. I also never would have found theconservativetreehouse.com if it weren't for Shaun King so thanks again!


Debunking the myths, talking points, and agenda driven nonsense around the Mike Brown Shooting
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/09/19/part-i-debunking-the-myths-talking-points-and-agenda-driven-nonsense-around-the-mike-brown-shooting/
The Ferguson and Saint Louis County Police Departments were smart right from the start. Much of what they did, and did not do, in relationship to investigating the Mike Brown shooting, specifically as it regards releasing information to the media, was intentional.
By holding specific factual evidence close to the vest they obviously frustrated the media. However, in doing so they also insured the integrity of witness evaluation. As a specifically intended outcome their decisions also meant that false witnesses could easily be identified.
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/canfield-map-new-21.jpg?w=640&h=438 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/canfield-map-new-21.jpg)
As we previously shared (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/08/29/the-instigator-how-one-saint-louis-man-originated-the-hands-up-dont-shoot-mike-brown-controversy-and-created-the-eye-witness-testimonials/)the crime scene itself created a witness grid of sorts. Canfield Drive, the street location of the shooting itself, runs essentially East and West. The witnesses most of the public are familiar with are from locations North of Canfield.
We previously explained how this took place HERE (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/08/29/the-instigator-how-one-saint-louis-man-originated-the-hands-up-dont-shoot-mike-brown-controversy-and-created-the-eye-witness-testimonials/).
The more publically known witnesses: Tiffany Mitchell, Piaget Crenshaw, Dorian Johnson (Big Mike co-hort) all had early legal representation brought upon by their relationship to community leaders, and each other, toward selling a specific storyline to the media; we can call this script the “Hands Up” narrative.
In turn each attorney can factually be connected to the larger Ferguson grievance group who were aiming to support Brown family attorney’s Daryl Parks and Benjamin Crump.
The only non-lawyered witnesses, who were coincidentally also located North of Canfield, were Michael Brady (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYqrAhpo_w4)and a guy who live-tweeted the post-shooting events under the auspices of “Pharaoh (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TubkIgb7LkA&list=UUZaT_X_mc0BI-djXOlfhqWQ)“.
Brady did not need a lawyer because he was not part of selling a script of testimony other than what he actually did see for himself (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYqrAhpo_w4)(more on that to follow), and Pharaoh who gave a statement to VICE News (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TubkIgb7LkA&list=UUZaT_X_mc0BI-djXOlfhqWQ), likewise did so without the need to enhance the scripted narrative.
Later media witnesses such as the audio witness that provided the “shooting audio” also gave their media-evidence via attorney(s).
Into this odd witness mix you can add the LA Times video witness (http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-aftermath-michael-brown-video-20140816-premiumvideo.html)who was located behind the construction workers (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/09/07/worker-witnesses-to-mike-brown-shooting/). And later, as the narrative began to diminish in effectiveness, and desperation began to set in, you also had the “anonymous” construction witnesses promoted almost exclusively by CNN and MSNBC. [Again, noting all of these "witnesses" are North of Canfield Drive.]
However, there were many other witnesses who saw part or all of the events. Those witnesses you have not seen because they were not part of the “Hands Up” narrative.
Indeed all of the witnesses South of Canfield have never given public statements to the media. The driver of the White 2-door car, a witness named “steve”, and a background audio witness (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/08/17/the-hidden-audio-of-mike-brown-shooting-eye-witness-a-witness-conversation-unknowingly-captured-at-the-scene-of-the-ferguson-shooting-is-a-game-changer/) heard in the Ace Johnson video (also known as the Black Canseco video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD-_GZSPQdA)) are examples of witnesses not in the media – but interviewed by authorities.
Most of the media witnesses, and their attorney’s, were/are selling a specific Mike Brown victim narrative. Hence you see Tiffany, Piaget and Dorian overemphasized while the less controversial/saleable Brady and Pharaoh (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TubkIgb7LkA&list=UUZaT_X_mc0BI-djXOlfhqWQ) were played down.
The construction worker(s) “anonymous witnesses” were an outcome of desperation in trying to find anyone to support the narrative (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/09/07/worker-witnesses-to-mike-brown-shooting/). However, the construction workers were at least 270 feet away from the shooting event – and did not see the aspects which are of the most vital import.
The video which CNN looped to attract attention to the construction witnesses was taken by Kevin Christopher Seltzer, who was in touch with the Scheme Team (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/09/07/worker-witnesses-to-mike-brown-shooting/), and tried to shop around his video to make some quick cash.
As an outcome of needing to support the media witnesses, the alignment of the black grievance industry, white guilt apologists on the left, and the media once again formed.
To aid their efforts the professional left began constructing wild conspiracy theory.
However, their lack of factual knowledge of physical evidence in relationship to events, and the lack of factual accuracy within the statements of the media witnesses -as it relates to the shooting event- created a problem.
All of their grand conspiracy theories are easily debunked, ignored by actual investigators, and totally refuted by the facts.
Two Examples:
The guy who took it upon himself to create a petition to remove the fundraising sites for Officer Darren Wilson is named Shaun King. In the last 48 hours Shaun King has taken to Twitter to postulate two wildly divergent theories.
We would normally laugh at these except for the fact they are being sold by actual media personalities within the national media:


[*Note* How anyone can read those twitter feeds and not think the media has dropped far below bat shit crazy is beyond me. I digress...]
The first theory was that Officer Wilson chased Mike Brown from his SUV and began shooting at Big Mike as he ran away.

After firing the first volley of shots, and missing, Mike Brown turned around and gave up. At which point the second volley of shots began and Mike Brown was killed.
Shaun King posed his constructed theory on Twitter much to the appreciation of the sheeple masses who slurp Hoax and Chains like thirsty sycophants of Jim Jones.
However, again the facts refute the theory. Remember, the shooting audio was recorded.

Brown was shot/hit “at least six times” with, according to Mike Brown’s family autopsy, all entrance wounds from the front.
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/brown-autopsy-diagram.jpg?w=640 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/brown-autopsy-diagram.jpg)
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/mike-brown-autopsy.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/mike-brown-autopsy.jpg)
The second volley of shots was only four bullets.
How could Brown receive six bullet entry wounds, from the front, with only four bullets?
Short answer: he can’t, and he didn’t. The theory is silly.
FACT: Brown was facing officer Wilson for all shots which hit him. Wilson did not fire randomly at Mike Brown as he was running away.

Facing easy rebuke, 24 hours later Shaun King changed course and constructed (https://storify.com/VeryWhiteGuy/shaunking-exposes-ferguson-pd-lie-about-distance-f) Theory #2. King “discovered” one of the first aspects we shared when we first looked at the shooting. It’s not a grand discovery, it’s the basics of research 101 – Seek first to understand.

The distance between Wilson’s SUV and Mike Brown’s body was well over 100′. Actually, it’s more like 120 feet.http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/shooting-scene-apx-2.png?w=640&h=412 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/shooting-scene-apx-2.png)
Graphic Via Diwataman (http://whiteskinnedman.wordpress.com/)Shaun King constructs the grand theory behind the great “ah ha” revelation that this 120 foot distance is divergent from the Police Chief stating the distance was 35′.

Ergo, Officer Wilson, according to Shaun King, opened fire on Mike Brown from a distance of 100 feet or more….. and something about that being illegal is the reason…. or something of the sort.
However, yet again the ridiculous theory runs into those pesky facts which are unavoidable. The ejected shell casings from the gun of Wilson used in the shooting were all identified at, near, and even behind, the body of Mike Brown.
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/evidence-cones1-grid-revised.jpg?w=576&h=432 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/evidence-cones1-grid-revised.jpg)
This position of the shell casings indicate Officer Wilson was, at some point, moving away from or retreating. It is also evident that Mike Brown was in general proximity to Officer Wilson as the shots were fired.
The shooting distance, or proximity of Wilson and Brown, as identified by the location of the shell casings, and adjusted for shell casing ejection, was actually inside a span of about 35 – 36 feet.
However, it is a fact that Wilson’s vehicle was about 100′ behind (West) of the actual shooting proximity. Meaning the foot pursuit was about 100′ to 130′.
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/canfield-map-4-with-witness-locations.jpg?w=640&h=425 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/canfield-map-4-with-witness-locations.jpg)
The actual construct of the scene was intentionally obtuse by the Ferguson police department so they could evaluate the integrity of the witnesses with questions about the physical locations themselves. False witnesses would be easily identified by anyone who did not know which police SUV was actually Officer Wilson’s.
This filter was made easier by the speed of the arriving backup vehicles. The second Police SUV arrived mere seconds after the shooting, the third and fourth only moments later.
Those arriving backups patrol vehicles drove past Wilson’s suv which was parked 120+ feet (West), giving all but the actual eye witnesses a difficult time identifying the vehicle where Wilson and Big Mike Brown were first physically engaged.
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Indeed, in the surrounding crowd even just moments (30 seconds to a minute) after the event many observers were erroneously identifying the Second, Third, and even Fourth arrived Police SUV as Officer Wilsons’.
Such erroneous attributions allowed police to filter through the “claimed” witnesses and focus only on those who did actually identify Wilson’s SUV, and subsequently actually ‘did see’ the events. Many witnesses claimed to have seen events, few actually did.
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/piaget-funny.png?w=300&h=209 (https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/piaget-funny.png)If you go back to Tiffany Mitchell, Piaget Crenshaw and even Dorian Johnson, you’ll find they falsely identified the distances and even the vehicles which were on scene.
All of these popular media witnesses were constructing information based on conversation amid the crowd – not factually what they saw.
Obviously Dorian Johnson had a vested self-preservation interest in the narrative; hence his initial story did not stand scrutiny, was filled with false statements, and, as admitted by his attorney, was not factually correct to the media.
According to Dorian’s attorney, lying to the media is not technically lying (see video below). According to Freeman Bosley Jr, as long as Dorian tells the police/investigators the truth, regardless of what he has told the media, he’s not lying.


So you can essentially write off anything said by Dorian to the media if you are trying to understand the actual construct of what took place. Young Dorian, having an outstanding arrest warrant, and having admitted to false testimony in the past, and having admitted to lying to the media, is essentially useless for the purpose of evaluating events.
For the investigators Dorian Johnson provides value, because they have leverage to place on him to solicit honesty. However, outside of that interrogation room, or leverage, his statements to the media are manipulative at best, and structurally false at worst.
Likewise, Tiffany and Piaget while not duplicitous in the shooting itself, have constructed most, if not all, of their statements based on popular opinion needed by those people in/around events who wanted a specific narrative (ie. “Hands up – Don’t shoot”) sold.
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/tiffany-mitchell-and-piaget-crenshaw.jpg?w=640 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/tiffany-mitchell-and-piaget-crenshaw.jpg)
And think about this as you evaluate the media: Last night at 7:21 pm media “analyst” Lisa Bloom sends this twitter message out to Shaun King and Goldie Taylor:

Nuf said….

[TheSanityAnnex]

And here they specifically shit on King's claim he was shot from over a distance of 100'....those damn shell casings!


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Ergo, Officer Wilson, according to Shaun King, opened fire on Mike Brown from a distance of 100 feet or more….. and something about that being illegal is the reason…. or something of the sort.
However, yet again the ridiculous theory runs into those pesky facts which are unavoidable. The ejected shell casings from the gun of Wilson used in the shooting were all identified at, near, and even behind, the body of Mike Brown.
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/evidence-cones1-grid-revised.jpg?w=576&h=432 (http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/evidence-cones1-grid-revised.jpg)
This position of the shell casings indicate Officer Wilson was, at some point, moving away from or retreating. It is also evident that Mike Brown was in general proximity to Officer Wilson as the shots were fired.
The shooting distance, or proximity of Wilson and Brown, as identified by the location of the shell casings, and adjusted for shell casing ejection, was actually inside a span of about 35 – 36 feet.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Twitter users and websites like this are credible right?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

i would figure a site where a guy supposedly has proof of a debunking would have had it all on his page instead of forcing his readers to conduct their own research


If you really could not get markets for the truck and thge corpse from the link provided then that is pretty sad. Try clothing your mouth.

I do enjoy the shill act though acting objective and the like.

[TheSanityAnnex]

If you really could not get markets for the truck and thge corpse from the link provided then that is pretty sad. Try clothing your mouth.

I do enjoy the shill act though acting objective and the like.

How do shell casings near Brown's body support being shot over 100' away?

[ChumpDumper]

So Brown was 35 feet away?

Hm.