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Marcus Bryant
08-25-2005, 08:26 AM
The forum seems preoccupied with the notion that the Spurs must have an eventual replacement for Bruce Bruce on the roster today. What if the Spurs already have that man, but he won't be in the NBA this season?


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Honestly, did anyone really expect the Spurs to sign Oberto this summer? As long as the Spurs have Scola's draft rights they will be able to dictate when he will enter the NBA. Hermann reportedly wants to make the jump to the NBA. The Spurs will have their full MLE next summer. Perhaps the Spurs are headed down this path.
ace3g
08-25-2005, 08:33 AM
technically the spurs could bring in Hermann in this season and it is still a possibility if the other SF FA(Dermarr Johnson, Gerald Wallace, Matt Barnes, etc) are taking off of the market.
JUUOT
08-25-2005, 08:34 AM
i partially agree that the long term solution might not come before next summer. However, we have 10 players signed and around 4 million left to spend. meaning at least 3 player will be added and maybee 4.
RC said today that as it is Spurs have enough Bigs (5 is enough especially given their quality, plus one of them might be traded for two of lesser value)

So obviously a 3th PG will join meaning there is at least 2 more seats empty. and they do not concern bigs nor PG

we have already 2-2 manu and barry and only one 3

logically one of the 2 spots left will be a 3. and since we are fans and we love to have sufficient back up at every position and bowen is not superman (he can hurt too) we want a decent 3 back up.

i will concede that a young one might not be the solution but it would certainly be a bonus. Glenn is not young but has at least 2 great years to give to the spurs and so does bowen but...after them...
ace3g
08-25-2005, 08:36 AM
theron smith is still available, he looks promising
ace3g
08-25-2005, 08:37 AM
A Mike Batiste type of player... More athletic and stronger... Good rebounding skills for his size... Decent mid-range shot... A small forward or a power forward?... Needs to show that he can shed the "tweener" tag.

that is from hoopshype on Theron Smith
ace3g
08-25-2005, 08:39 AM
has theron smith had any injuries or been an any accidents
ace3g
08-25-2005, 08:41 AM
he did have knee surgery on his right knee but other than that he looks like he is not injury prone
Marcus Bryant
08-25-2005, 09:05 AM
technically the spurs could bring in Hermann in this season and it is still a possibility if the other SF FA(Dermarr Johnson, Gerald Wallace, Matt Barnes, etc) are taking off of the market.


If he'll play for what the Spurs have left, then come on over.

But I thought he was under contract in Europe for one more season?
kolko
08-25-2005, 10:26 AM
But I thought he was under contract in Europe for one more season?

Correct.
Kori Ellis
08-25-2005, 10:49 AM
The forum seems preoccupied with the notion that the Spurs must have an eventual replacement for Bruce Bruce on the roster today. What if the Spurs already have that man, but he won't be in the NBA this season?

If that were the case, they wouldn't have been targeting -- Maurice Evans, James Jones, Damien Wilkins, etc so far this summer. The Spurs are definitely looking for a young 3.
Marcus Bryant
08-25-2005, 11:11 AM
Evans is more of a 2. DBrown insurance/bargaining chip.
SequSpur
08-25-2005, 12:02 PM
Hermann?
ace3g
08-25-2005, 12:38 PM
you have never heard of Walter Herrmann, the energy guy off the bench for the Argentina NT.
Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
08-25-2005, 01:20 PM
He is a good player, he has offensive skills and athletic ability, but his defence would need a lot of work under the Spurs system. Pop would go Serbian at him quite a few times in his rookie year.

He was rumoured as a target for the Hornets and Bobcats at the beginning of the offseason, but I believe that NBA teams will wait until his contract with Spanish club Unicaja Malaga runs out.
mookie2001
08-25-2005, 01:45 PM
i cant say it enough
sign III
TDMVPDPOY
08-25-2005, 04:08 PM
No fabio plz
Extra Stout
08-26-2005, 08:10 AM
Honestly, did anyone really expect the Spurs to sign Oberto this summer? As long as the Spurs have Scola's draft rights they will be able to dictate when he will enter the NBA. Hermann reportedly wants to make the jump to the NBA. The Spurs will have their full MLE next summer. Perhaps the Spurs are headed down this path.Hermann does not fir the mold of "young, long, athletic defender."

The successful candidate will succeed Bruce Bowen as the anchor of the team's perimeter defense. That is not Hermann's strength. If you're going to argue that Popovich can mold him into a defender, I would reply that it would be better to have a player who has the tools to become an elite defender in the first place. Almost any player can be taught how to fit into the Spurs' team defensive scheme. Anchoring said scheme is different.
Marcus Bryant
08-26-2005, 08:53 AM
Why must the 3 be that "anchor"? In addition, I would argue that you don't need an "anchor" as much as you need a total team commitment.
JUUOT
08-26-2005, 08:58 AM
for once i will go on marcus side.
remember in the DVD how pop is parising the combined perimeter defense of manu, tony and bruce.
bruce was the anchor also because manu and tony had to carry the offense. if you bring an offensive 3 like herman. it will leave more energy on defense for manu and tony.

hermann would be fine but

VOTE FOR BARNES
Extra Stout
08-26-2005, 10:07 AM
Why must the 3 be that "anchor"? In addition, I would argue that you don't need an "anchor" as much as you need a total team commitment.Because that's the scheme that has worked now for 4 years. Pop tried it the other way in 2000-01. That way failed.

The Spurs depend on having a guy who can stick with the opposition's best perimeter scorer so that they don't have to double-team him.

Besides, the Spurs don't really have 1-2-3-4-5 positions. They have a point, two wings, and two posts. With Manu starting at one wing, you don't really want your other wing to be offense-first. Manu should be getting those touches. Have your other wing move without the ball, set screens, get rebounds, and focus on defense.
Marcus Bryant
08-26-2005, 10:26 AM
It failed in 2001 because the team was old and decrepit out on the perimeter after DA was clotheslined. That team was still good enough for the top seed and a conference finals appearance.
TheTruth
08-26-2005, 10:41 AM
Why must the 3 be that "anchor"? In addition, I would argue that you don't need an "anchor" as much as you need a total team commitment.
Pop has already come out and said that Bruce is the pointman for the defense. He makes everything work. I'd expect the FO to target someone in that mold. Stick with what works.
Marcus Bryant
08-26-2005, 11:02 AM
Yes, Bruce works in that role but it doesn't always have to be like that.
TheTruth
08-26-2005, 11:05 AM
If something works enough to help you get two rings, why not try to duplicate it as much as possible.
Marcus Bryant
08-26-2005, 11:08 AM
Yeah but it's not like you can be assured of finding another player who is as good of a perimeter defender as BB.
Extra Stout
08-26-2005, 11:12 AM
Yeah but it's not like you can be assured of finding another player who is as good of a perimeter defender as BB.
But it should be the priority to try to find that type of player, and change the scheme only if the search fails.
Extra Stout
08-26-2005, 11:13 AM
It failed in 2001 because the team was old and decrepit out on the perimeter after DA was clotheslined. That team was still good enough for the top seed and a conference finals appearance.Spurs' history 1973-1996 shows that regular season records mean jack shit if the team isn't built for the playoffs.
boutons
08-26-2005, 11:16 AM
"as good of a perimeter defender as BB."

Bruce is a man on a mission. Within his less-the-All-star abilities, he's worked his ass off to win and maintain a starter's role and be a key contributor in 2 Titles. Bruce is pretty much a very admirable one of a kind.

A Bruce replacement won't share his passion and commitment to shut-down defense, so drop those expectations now. However, his replacement will probably be more productive on offense. I'm sure Pop will make the replacement more than respectable on defense, so that Bruce's exit will not be felt in the overall team performance.
Marcus Bryant
08-26-2005, 12:33 PM
Spurs' history 1973-1996 shows that regular season records mean jack shit if the team isn't built for the playoffs.


It also showed that team athleticism and depth, especially on the perimeter, was somewhat important. That '01 team lost its starting shooting guard before that series.

You cannot expect the next starting 3 in SA to be as great of a defender as Bruce or even a 'defensive stopper' for that matter.