The worst part of all this IMO..

[Malik Hairston]

The worst part of all(excluding Tony Parker's presence and disgusting contract that will kill the Spurs for the next few years, and also kill the souls of die-hard Spurs fans that have to watch him on a basketball court..fucking sickening and disgusting) is that the Spurs now have to battle for playoff seeding, which will render them unable to rest Duncan, Ginobili and even Danny Green..

It's evident that Duncan is gassed, as his defense has been horrendous lately..Manu is a legendary warrior, he's still giving it everything, but he's old and has too much mileage to run the offense for such long stretches, of course..

Even Green, at his age, has to be worn out by that long stretch of OT games, etc where he was the only 2-way player on the floor for most of the time..his defense and energy hasn't been the same the past week or so, tbh..

Is there any chance the Spurs will be able to rest these key players?

[Venti Quattro]

Is there any chance the Spurs will be able to rest these key players?

Yeah, if they decide to tank.........

[Robz4000]

At some point I think Pop will stop caring about seeding (if he hasn't already) and start resting people. I just hope they make the postseason.

[Hoops Czar]

At some point I think Pop will stop caring about seeding (if he hasn't already) and start resting people. I just hope they make the postseason.

Yeah, he'll rest them so they can be well rested heading into the offseason.

[FkLA]

All worth it as long as Enrique's mild asscheek strain is 100% pain free. :rolleyes

[TE]

By next month, the Spurs will get on a winning streak. They will push it into overdrive by or around the All-Star break. The question to your OP is yes. The Spurs just need to catch fire. It will happen.

[midnightpulp]

The worst part of all(excluding Tony Parker's presence and disgusting contract that will kill the Spurs for the next few years, and also kill the souls of die-hard Spurs fans that have to watch him on a basketball court..fucking sickening and disgusting) is that the Spurs now have to battle for playoff seeding, which will render them unable to rest Duncan, Ginobili and even Danny Green..

It's evident that Duncan is gassed, as his defense has been horrendous lately..Manu is a legendary warrior, he's still giving it everything, but he's old and has too much mileage to run the offense for such long stretches, of course..

Even Green, at his age, has to be worn out by that long stretch of OT games, etc where he was the only 2-way player on the floor for most of the time..his defense and energy hasn't been the same the past week or so, tbh..

Is there any chance the Spurs will be able to rest these key players?

Nope. Spurs are now in "til the wheels fall off" mode.

And Parker needs to fuckin' nut up and play through it. I know he gets a lot of flack, with some posters preferring he not play at all, but Cojo and Mills aren't true PGs and are better utilized coming off the bench. Opposing teams still gameplan for Parker since he's a threat to drop 25-30 any given night. When we can overwhelm opposing PGs with the three headed monster of Parker/Mills/Cojo, it's a big advantage to have. And Parker makes those two better just by being active on the roster.

And Kawhi needs to take a page out of Kirby's book and just "warrior it." Nigga's always texting on his fuckin' phone on the sidelines using the hand that supposedly doesn't work. If he can text, he can fuckin' play. I know Kobe would be out there, and even though he exaggerates the severity of his injuries, I have no doubt he'd play through whatever "mysterious" injury is affecting Kawhi.

It's inexcusable Duncan and Manu having to carry so much while our young "Finals MVP" sits on the sidelines and texts and "MVParker" sulks on the bench nursing his sore asscheek.

[Venti Quattro]

By next month, the Spurs will get on a winning streak. They will push it into overdrive by or around the All-Star break. The question to your OP is yes. The Spurs just need to catch fire. It will happen.

Well either that or they'll also catch fire when they crash and burn

[ElNono]

On the other hand, the good part of all this is that we've only been blown out like twice in all these games... 95% of them winnable....

I remember last season we were so confident in the last minute of a game... Danny/Marco/Patty will hit a 3... even Tiago looked like he could sink any amount of freebies...

This season they all seem to be close games and it's like getting a tooth pulled... we also have yet to have a full healthy roster without minute restrictions or anything like that...

[Ice009]

And Kawhi needs to take a page out of Kirby's book and just "warrior it." Nigga's always texting on his fuckin' phone on the sidelines using the hand that supposedly doesn't work. If he can text, he can fuckin' play. I know Kobe would be out there, and even though he exaggerates the severity of his injuries, I have no doubt he'd play through whatever "mysterious" injury is affecting Kawhi.

It's inexcusable Duncan and Manu having to carry so much while our young "Finals MVP" sits on the sidelines and texts and "MVParker" sulks on the bench nursing his sore asscheek.

If Kawhi is texting, he might be texting something like "fuck, the Spurs re-signed Parker for a few more years, how can I get the fuck out of here next year".

[Nathan89]

What's worse is the organization may be unwilling to trade Tony like they did rj.

[Ice009]

What's worse is the organization may be unwilling to trade Tony like they did rj.

I don't recall if I've commented on the Spurs extending Parker, but I will now.

How in the fuck could the Spurs have re-signed him without even seeing how he plays this season? It was in their best interest not to, as at worst, it could have given him motivation to play better this season.

[mkurts]

Kawhi is sulking the denial of the max extension so he won't be happy if the team wins without him. Him and Parker will help to derail this season

[hater]

Evita is the problem. Spurs have the most turnovers in the last 5 minutes of games than anyone else in NBA

Evita just can't handle the pressure anymore

[weebo]

For all the hate Parker gets on this board (heroball, enrique, etc.) we are now seeing how much he means to the offensive side of the ball. Expecting Mills and Cojo to run the offense is like having your back up and third string quarterback run a prolific offense.

[hater]

Not to mention Parkers ice in the veins style of finishing games. We look like a bunch of faggots trying to finish games without our MVP

[hater]

we need that killer attitude back. TP looking at the team and say just get the fuck out the way I got this

[apalisoc_9]

The spurs did just fine closing out the Thunder last year in game 6 without Parker...

:lmao

[SupremeGuy]

For all the hate Parker gets on this board (heroball, enrique, etc.) we are now seeing how much he means to the offensive side of the ball. Expecting Mills and Cojo to run the offense is like having your back up and third string quarterback run a prolific offense.The fuck are you talking about? Our team had a little winning streak going until Parker came back last night. Even then, everytime our team would go on a run it was with Parker on the bench. lol What the fuck are you talking about?

[Darius McCrary]

What percentage of our cap is Tony eating?

Spurs should send him to the glue factory, tbh..

[weebo]

The fuck are you talking about? Our team had a little winning streak going until Parker came back last night. Even then, everytime our team would go on a run it was with Parker on the bench. lol What the fuck are you talking about?

Yes because you know more about basketball than a 5 time NBA champion HOF coach. GTFOH :lmao

Parker may not be the player he once was but a HEALTHY Parker is still very much important to the Spurs playoff success. If you think the Spurs will have any REAL success in the PO's with Parker playing a limited role, then you're as dumb and the dumb looking idiot in your avatar. :lol

[dabom]

The fuck are you talking about? Our team had a little winning streak going until Parker came back last night. Even then, everytime our team would go on a run it was with Parker on the bench. lol What the fuck are you talking about?

:lol

[dabom]

Yes because you know more about basketball than a 5 time NBA champion HOF coach. GTFOH :lmao

Parker may not be the player he once was but a HEALTHY Parker is still very much important to the Spurs playoff success. If you think the Spurs will have any REAL success in the PO's with Parker playing a limited role, then you're as dumb and the dumb looking idiot in your avatar. :lol

Seriously wtf are you watching?

[weebo]

Seriously wtf are you watching?

I'm watching a team that has yet to field a complete and healthy team. Sometimes I wonder what you morons think the Spurs should do? Go 82-0? Parker, Splitter, Mills, KL,...etc have all been hurt.

If you have been paying attention for I don't know...the LAST 10 years or so then you would know (as Pop has stated over 1000x) the Spurs don't go anywhere without a healthy roster.

...and unless you're on the Spurs' medical/rehab staff then you have no idea what type of injury Parker has that limits his ability to play at an optimal level.

Finally, if you can't deal with a little adversity that the Spurs have been facing then do yourself a favor and stop watching.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Pop has really crapped the bed this season. I know there have been injuries but he has gotten way too cute with the rotations so far.

Now it is coming back to haunt him because the Spurs are going to be fighting for the rest of the year trying to get a decent playoff seed. I don't think the Spurs would be able to do well coming into the playoffs as the seventh seed. While I don't think anyone in the West is head and shoulders over anyone else right now, the Spurs starting off a series down 0-2 is going to be awfully daunting.

[Perry Mason]

The fuck are you talking about? Our team had a little winning streak going until Parker came back last night. Even then, everytime our team would go on a run it was with Parker on the bench. lol What the fuck are you talking about?

You mean the Detroit Pistons run in the entire second half? Funny, I didn't see TP out there.

Parker haters should stop if they want to be taken seriously. Stop looking at 36 games in which TP has played maybe 20 healthy ones, and in those, he was under clear instructions from Pop to experiment with deferring to Kawhi in the post. And it was early season limited minutes and cruising. Any stats, PER, on/off, etc., are meaningless for this sample size given the circumstances.

Instead, look at 2011-2014, and see the prolific offense with TP leading and all actions being keyed off of his dual threat to penetrate or shoot. Even with his inconsistent last year, he was still by and large the floor general and the leading scorer. He was essential throughout the playoffs and made the Portland series look easier than it really was.

Pop knows this and I could pull up an archive of 100 videos of Pop saying TP is the key to the offense and that everything flows from his movement.

If you take that out, because of injury or age, you cannot expect Cojo or Patty to be any kind of replacement. This is because TP is a hall of famer who in his prime was a top-10 player in the NBA and top 3 point guard (#1 in 2011/2012 & 2012/2013). Now the team may need a new All-star to run the offense or be a focal point that creates the disruptions necessary for Spurs ball-movement to work. The hope is that this is Kawhi.

[Malik Hairston]

^^ :lol these antiquated Spurs fans that still think it's 2012, tbh..

The sample size isn't limited to this season, it goes back to last year, too, particularly the playoffs, where the Spurs were literally better when Parker was on the bench..:lmao citing the Portland series where the Spurs blew them out with Parker on the bench in game 5..:lmao ignoring the atrocious Thunder and Heat series' from Parker..:lmao "he runs everything", yet the Spurs were better when he was on the bench..

I'm not surprised when I hear "analysts" and casual fans refer to Parker like we're still in 2012, they don't watch Spurs games or pay attention, so it's all good, but I'm a little surprised that there are still Spurs fans that think he's anywhere near a top-level player anymore..

Anyways, this thread isn't about Parker's soft ass, tbh, let's move on..

[hater]

You mean the Detroit Pistons run in the entire second half? Funny, I didn't see TP out there.

Parker haters should stop if they want to be taken seriously. Stop looking at 36 games in which TP has played maybe 20 healthy ones, and in those, he was under clear instructions from Pop to experiment with deferring to Kawhi in the post. And it was early season limited minutes and cruising. Any stats, PER, on/off, etc., are meaningless for this sample size given the circumstances.

Instead, look at 2011-2014, and see the prolific offense with TP leading and all actions being keyed off of his dual threat to penetrate or shoot. Even with his inconsistent last year, he was still by and large the floor general and the leading scorer. He was essential throughout the playoffs and made the Portland series look easier than it really was.

Pop knows this and I could pull up an archive of 100 videos of Pop saying TP is the key to the offense and that everything flows from his movement.

If you take that out, because of injury or age, you cannot expect Cojo or Patty to be any kind of replacement. This is because TP is a hall of famer who in his prime was a top-10 player in the NBA and top 3 point guard (#1 in 2011/2012 & 2012/2013). Now the team may need a new All-star to run the offense or be a focal point that creates the disruptions necessary for Spurs ball-movement to work. The hope is that this is Kawhi.

:lmao BREAKING NEWS: Short TP Hater bus ethered :lol :lmao

:lol thread backfire :lol

[Godbama]

And Kawhi needs to take a page out of Kirby's book and just "warrior it." Nigga's always texting on his fuckin' phone on the sidelines using the hand that supposedly doesn't work. If he can text, he can fuckin' play. I know Kobe would be out there, and even though he exaggerates the severity of his injuries, I have no doubt he'd play through whatever "mysterious" injury is affecting Kawhi.

It's inexcusable Duncan and Manu having to carry so much while our young "Finals MVP" sits on the sidelines and texts and "MVParker" sulks on the bench nursing his sore asscheek.
Man that's some silly Mark Jackson level bullshit. I'd rather Kawhi sit out longer than come in too soon and risk aggravating shit. Nothing worse than dumb fans second-guessing injuries. "Warrior it" :rolleyes Is this your "gut" feeling? :rolleyes
Figures the dumb hick Texans and fatasses on Spurstalk think that texting on the phone is close to equivalent physical stress to playing basketball. HEY IF HE CAN PLAY FLAPPY BIRDS HE CAN GET INTO FULL CONTACT BASKETBALL


:lol:toast

[Fuzzy Dunlop]

You mean the Detroit Pistons run in the entire second half? Funny, I didn't see TP out there.

Parker haters should stop if they want to be taken seriously. Stop looking at 36 games in which TP has played maybe 20 healthy ones, and in those, he was under clear instructions from Pop to experiment with deferring to Kawhi in the post. And it was early season limited minutes and cruising. Any stats, PER, on/off, etc., are meaningless for this sample size given the circumstances.

Instead, look at 2011-2014, and see the prolific offense with TP leading and all actions being keyed off of his dual threat to penetrate or shoot. Even with his inconsistent last year, he was still by and large the floor general and the leading scorer. He was essential throughout the playoffs and made the Portland series look easier than it really was.

Pop knows this and I could pull up an archive of 100 videos of Pop saying TP is the key to the offense and that everything flows from his movement.

If you take that out, because of injury or age, you cannot expect Cojo or Patty to be any kind of replacement. This is because TP is a hall of famer who in his prime was a top-10 player in the NBA and top 3 point guard (#1 in 2011/2012 & 2012/2013). Now the team may need a new All-star to run the offense or be a focal point that creates the disruptions necessary for Spurs ball-movement to work. The hope is that this is Kawhi.

oh look, another parkertard to add to the list.

delusional people, i swear. :lmao

[boutons_deux]

Pop has always said he doesn't care about seeding because "you have to through everybody anyway". iow, 8th seed is fine with him.

[ChumpDumper]

spurfan is a terrible fan

[EVAY]

The fuck are you talking about? Our team had a little winning streak going until Parker came back last night. Even then, everytime our team would go on a run it was with Parker on the bench. lol What the fuck are you talking about?

Seriously? The Spurs were in their hockey squad replacements last night through the first half, so 5 left and 5 returned at the same time. The 9 point run by Detroit in the second half of the second quarter is essentially to be expected since teams going on runs is pretty much the norm. Drummond led the Pistons in the second half of the second quarter. Not sure what part of that is on Parker.

Spurs brought a 9 point lead into the beginning of the second half and Parker was not allowed on the court. That is also when the Piston's first string guards starting scoring. They were like a combined 3 of 15 in the first half. Now I am NOT suggesting that Parker is a defensive juggernaut by any stretch. What I am saying is that this loss is NOT on Parker.

Actually Detroit's shooting was mainly from their bigs the whole game. Drummond made mince meat of our front line all night.

Lack of rebounding, pathetic free throw shooting, turnovers in the last five minutes. That is why we lost this game.

[Perry Mason]

oh look, another parkertard to add to the list.

delusional people, i swear. :lmao

Im starting to think all the Parker haters are the same guy with lots of accounts. Surely there can't be that many stupid Spurfans? I mean you guys are clearly not interested in logic or rational discussion. And your attachment to stats you do not understand and could not reproduce (because it requires math and forumulas) is typical plebe behavior for the small mind.

You cannot make conclusions from 20 somewhat healthy games early in a season when the coach is experimenting. It's nonsense.

No no one is denying Parker's crappy play this year and inconsistent (but still well above average) 2014 play. But we take into account the circumstances and show hopeful patience for a recovery. Did Ginobili have an amazing 2014 finals or did he not? If he did, then how did that happen because he looked terrible in 2013.

Gee, maybe there is an analogy here but I won't waste it on trolls.

[ducks]

People grow up

[ducks]

The spurs did just fine closing out the Thunder last year in game 6 without Parker...

:lmao

Spurs not finishing well without tp

[midnightpulp]

Man that's some silly Mark Jackson level bullshit. I'd rather Kawhi sit out longer than come in too soon and risk aggravating shit. Nothing worse than dumb fans second-guessing injuries. "Warrior it" :rolleyes Is this your "gut" feeling? :rolleyes
Figures the dumb hick Texans and fatasses on Spurstalk think that texting on the phone is close to equivalent physical stress to playing basketball. HEY IF HE CAN PLAY FLAPPY BIRDS HE CAN GET INTO FULL CONTACT BASKETBALL


:lol:toast

No. It's my "feeling" based on the facts that the MRI showed nothing, that Kawhi himself said it wasn't as bad as it sounds, and that teammates (Danny Green) have come forward and said he looks good. I admit I was probably barking up the wrong tree by blaming Kawhi. It's more likely that Pop is doing his kid glove bullshit once again, babying minor injuries as if they're life threatening conditions.

And no, I don't believe the bullshit line of, "Our specialist hasn't seen this injury in his 250 years of practice."

To me, this smells like more of "CIA Pop" smoke-screening than anything else.

[Ice009]

Actually Detroit's shooting was mainly from their bigs the whole game. Drummond made mince meat of our front line all night.


I actually was interested in trying to trade TP in that draft to try and get Drummond with the pick. That was before TP went off in the '13 season though.

[TheGreatYacht]

You mean the Detroit Pistons run in the entire second half? Funny, I didn't see TP out there.

Parker haters should stop if they want to be taken seriously. Stop looking at 36 games in which TP has played maybe 20 healthy ones, and in those, he was under clear instructions from Pop to experiment with deferring to Kawhi in the post. And it was early season limited minutes and cruising. Any stats, PER, on/off, etc., are meaningless for this sample size given the circumstances.

Instead, look at 2011-2014, and see the prolific offense with TP leading and all actions being keyed off of his dual threat to penetrate or shoot. Even with his inconsistent last year, he was still by and large the floor general and the leading scorer. He was essential throughout the playoffs and made the Portland series look easier than it really was.

Pop knows this and I could pull up an archive of 100 videos of Pop saying TP is the key to the offense and that everything flows from his movement.

If you take that out, because of injury or age, you cannot expect Cojo or Patty to be any kind of replacement. This is because TP is a hall of famer who in his prime was a top-10 player in the NBA and top 3 point guard (#1 in 2011/2012 & 2012/2013). Now the team may need a new All-star to run the offense or be a focal point that creates the disruptions necessary for Spurs ball-movement to work. The hope is that this is Kawhi.
... :lmao Truth nuke

[TheGreatYacht]

The fuck are you talking about? Our team had a little winning streak going until Parker came back last night. Even then, everytime our team would go on a run it was with Parker on the bench. lol What the fuck are you talking about?
2 game win streak :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

Oh and it was Manu handling the ball at the end of the first half when Detroit started coming back, the offense went dry asap