View Full Version : 2015 NBA Trade Deadline
exstatic
02-16-2015, 11:23 PM
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Money on Miami nabbing him.
They have the non drug version already.
cd021
02-17-2015, 03:10 AM
Roster Spots Remaining (for buyouts/FAs )
Clippers-2 (Hard Capped)
Cavs-1
Spurs-1
Warriors-1 (Hard Capped)
Mavs-0
Rockets-0 (Hard Capped)
"If a team is hard-capped, it cannot exceed the apron under any circumstance. If the team subsequently needs to sign a player (for example, to replace injured players) it must first create room under the apron by waiving player(s) with non-guaranteed salary, waiving player(s) with guaranteed salary and utilizing the stretch provision, trading downward in salary, etc.
A team that is hard-capped can sign players to non-guaranteed contracts for training camp or the regular season, but must rid themselves of such players before their salary would take the team above the apron. A team subject to the hard cap can also sign players to Rest-of-Season contracts during the season, as long as the salary pro-ration keeps the team below the apron."
Mel_13
02-17-2015, 07:49 AM
Roster Spots Remaining (for buyouts/FAs )
Clippers-2 (Hard Capped)
Cavs-1
Spurs-1
Warriors-1 (Hard Capped)
Mavs-0
Rockets-0 (Hard Capped)
What you're going for, I think, is identifying which teams retain the ability to offer more than a prorated share of the vet minimum to a free agent. Being subject to a hard cap doesn't mean that a team can't offer more than the minimum. It just means that their total spending can't rise above the apron. If they retain a salary cap exception and sufficient space under the apron, then they can offer more than the minimum. The three hard capped teams listed above have used their available salary cap exceptions for 2014-15 and can't offer anything other than the minimum.
Dallas and Cleveland both signed free agents using cap space and used their room exceptions, so both of those teams also are down to minimum offers.
There are other playoff teams, however, that retain salary exceptions or cap space. Atlanta, for example, has almost 5M in cap space remaining (Danny Ferry would be the frontrunner for Exec of the Year in a normal year).
Basketball Insiders has a one page summary that shows all remaining exceptions and cap space:
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-team-salaries-at-a-glance/
Lack of an available roster space is no real obstacle to signing a free agent at this point as the least valuable player on the roster can simply be waived.
Russo21
02-17-2015, 09:20 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=o5rkhcd This works. lol Nets
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jw3ohnx This to. lol Knicks
cd021
02-17-2015, 09:42 AM
What you're going for, I think, is identifying which teams retain the ability to offer more than a prorated share of the vet minimum to a free agent. Being subject to a hard cap doesn't mean that a team can't offer more than the minimum. It just means that their total spending can't rise above the apron. If they retain a salary cap exception and sufficient space under the apron, then they can offer more than the minimum. The three hard capped teams listed above have used their available salary cap exceptions for 2014-15 and can't offer anything other than the minimum.
Dallas and Cleveland both signed free agents using cap space and used their room exceptions, so both of those teams also are down to minimum offers.
There are other playoff teams, however, that retain salary exceptions or cap space. Atlanta, for example, has almost 5M in cap space remaining (Danny Ferry would be the frontrunner for Exec of the Year in a normal year).
Basketball Insiders has a one page summary that shows all remaining exceptions and cap space:
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-team-salaries-at-a-glance/
Lack of an available roster space is no real obstacle to signing a free agent at this point as the least valuable player on the roster can simply be waived.
OK. I think I misunderstood the hard cap. I thought that once a team uses the MLE it can't exceed the luxury tax line by more than $4 million for any reason. So even the hard capped teams can still offer vet. min. contracts despite having no exceptions remaining. :tu thanks for the correction.
Chinook
02-17-2015, 09:51 AM
OK. I think I misunderstood the hard cap. I thought that once a team uses the MLE it can't exceed the luxury tax line by more than $4 million for any reason. So even the hard capped teams can still offer vet. min. contracts despite having no exceptions remaining. :tu thanks for the correction.
Nope. You're correct in that assumption. Min contracts can't be offered if they would make the team exceed the hard cap. However, just because a team is hard capped doesn't mean that they are too close to the cap to offer a min salary. Any team that uses the non-taxpayer MLE or receives a player in a S&T is technically hard-capped.
cd021
02-17-2015, 09:52 AM
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Mel_13
02-17-2015, 09:54 AM
OK. I think I misunderstood the hard cap. I thought that once a team uses the MLE it can't exceed the luxury tax line by more than $4 million for any reason. So even the hard capped teams can still offer vet. min. contracts despite having no exceptions remaining. :tu thanks for the correction.
That is true, but none of the teams on your list are more than 4M over the tax line. If a minimum contract would take a hard capped team over the apron, then they would not be able to use it. The Clips are getting close to the apron, but Dallas and GS aren't even over the luxury tax line.
SpursFan86
02-17-2015, 12:55 PM
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Chinook
02-17-2015, 01:16 PM
I do wonder how big of an upgrade Wilson Chandler would be over Beli. I know I/we have talked about him a lot, but it's been interesting to follow Chandler this season. He has had stretches where he's looked very good, but overall, he's been pretty inefficient. I still like his versatility, but he's only had one above-average season (and that was at PF).
Ultimately, I like him over Beli, but I don't like him over Beli and an asset. I do think the team should make a move for a combo-forward (and not AK for the love of god). But I don't see anyone who'd be available. The Nicholson/Ayres swap would be cool as well, though.
TheGoldStandard
02-17-2015, 01:19 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Gerald Green as a backup SF but doubt that would work
look_at_g_shred
02-17-2015, 01:37 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Gerald Green as a backup SF but doubt that would work
Aren't him and Danny like 2nd cousins or something?
Chinook
02-17-2015, 01:42 PM
Aren't him and Danny like 2nd cousins or something?
Yep. I wanted the Spurs to trade Bonner for him back in 2013 when the Pacers were offering a pick as part of the deal.
TheGoldStandard
02-17-2015, 02:14 PM
Yep. I wanted the Spurs to trade Bonner for him back in 2013 when the Pacers were offering a pick as part of the deal.
What do you think the cost would be now?
Chinook
02-17-2015, 02:28 PM
What do you think the cost would be now?
Some small asset. The Spurs could probably get him for Beli and a second. The issue is that the team doesn't have the contracts to trade for him, anymore. Had they kept Daye, they could have moved him and Ayres for a player like Green. But now, there's no one disposible on the roster who could make the numbers work.
Raven
02-17-2015, 02:38 PM
Nope. You're correct in that assumption. Min contracts can't be offered if they would make the team exceed the hard cap. However, just because a team is hard capped doesn't mean that they are too close to the cap to offer a min salary. Any team that uses the non-taxpayer MLE or receives a player in a S&T is technically hard-capped.
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cd021
02-17-2015, 02:42 PM
Some small asset. The Spurs could probably get him for Beli and a second. The issue is that the team doesn't have the contracts to trade for him, anymore. Had they kept Daye, they could have moved him and Ayres for a player like Green. But now, there's no one disposible on the roster who could make the numbers work.
The Suns are under the cap, the Beli for Green deal would work financially.
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never mind .misread.
Chinook
02-17-2015, 02:45 PM
The Suns are under the cap, the Beli for Green deal would work financially.
The cap part doesn't matter. I was saying that the Spurs don't have the disposible contracts to trade for Green. I don't think they would trade Beli for Gerald, and I don't believe they should. But Ayres and Daye would have worked nicely.
Raven
02-17-2015, 02:47 PM
I do wonder how big of an upgrade Wilson Chandler would be over Beli. I know I/we have talked about him a lot, but it's been interesting to follow Chandler this season. He has had stretches where he's looked very good, but overall, he's been pretty inefficient. I still like his versatility, but he's only had one above-average season (and that was at PF).
Ultimately, I like him over Beli, but I don't like him over Beli and an asset. I do think the team should make a move for a combo-forward (and not AK for the love of god). But I don't see anyone who'd be available. The Nicholson/Ayres swap would be cool as well, though.
uh, massive. No comparison really. Also Beli has done his job for this year, and can return to being the irrelevant pos he has always been when games matter.
cd021
02-17-2015, 02:51 PM
The cap part doesn't matter. I was saying that the Spurs don't have the disposible contracts to trade for Green. I don't think they would trade Beli for Gerald, and I don't believe they should. But Ayres and Daye would have worked nicely.
Yeah I realized that's what you meant after i posted. Wonder if a Ayers + second would be enough for Plumlee. Give us another big under contract for next season. I would say Baynes but it would be unlikely he would give his consent.
TheGoldStandard
02-17-2015, 02:54 PM
Yeah I realized that's what you meant after i posted. Wonder if a Ayers + second would be enough for Plumlee. Give us another big under contract for next season. I would say Baynes but it would be unlikely he would give his consent.
Gerald would fix that hole at the 3 off the bench and he's athletic enough to stay in front of 2 guards and PGs on switches.
could we sell the rights to hangs and ayers or ayers and a 2nd?
cd021
02-17-2015, 03:38 PM
Gerald would fix that hole at the 3 off the bench and he's athletic enough to stay in front of 2 guards and PGs on switches.
could we sell the rights to hangs and ayers or ayers and a 2nd?
He is actually a pretty good shooter (more so last season). If the Ayers+2nd trade could work, I don't think that would be enough. After Bledsoe and Goodwin on the wing, they'd really only have [Marcus] Morris there. [Zoran] Dragic, Goodwin, Warren, Bullock, are all unproven players. So unless its Beli +2nd rounder for Green i don't think it makes much sense for the Suns.
SpursFan86
02-17-2015, 03:39 PM
The Nicholson/Ayres swap would be cool as well, though.
Orlando Magic (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/orl/) management remains reluctant to unload forward Andrew Nicholson for a marginal return, still wondering how a new coach next season would better utilize him offensively, sources tell Yahoo Sports. Jacque Vaughn and his interim successor, James Borrego, have been unable and unwilling to incorporate his inside-outside scoring abilities into their simplistic offensive systems.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--suns-determined-to-sign-dragic--barring-blockbuster-trade-offer-195235888.html
gambit1990
02-17-2015, 03:47 PM
the spurs could use new blood. not that i think they can't win it all without some but it would help. doesn't have to be major. i still want wilson chandler.
on a more extreme note... i think parker can still play better than he has this season, but i'd rather have dragic than parker.
gambit1990
02-17-2015, 03:50 PM
i'd also be happy with gerald green.
TheGoldStandard
02-17-2015, 04:08 PM
He is actually a pretty good shooter (more so last season). If the Ayers+2nd trade could work, I don't think that would be enough. After Bledsoe and Goodwin on the wing, they'd really only have [Marcus] Morris there. [Zoran] Dragic, Goodwin, Warren, Bullock, are all unproven players. Sunless its Beli +2nd rounder for Green i don't think it makes much sense for the Suns.
I would hate to give up Marco. Green for Marco kinda seems redundant for Phoenix, trading a sf for a SG/sf who cost around the same doesn't make them better especially if they want to resign next season.
Chinook
02-17-2015, 06:32 PM
Dallas is waiving Ricky Ledo. I'd put in a claim just to see what's up. Dude was hyped in school.
Malik Hairston
02-17-2015, 06:38 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure if I could name 5 players in the NBA that would be worse fits for the Spurs(from a chemistry standpoint, not role) than Gerald Green, tbh:lol..
Pop would probably kill himself if he had to coach him..
I was one of the biggest pro-Wilson Chandler people on ST a few years ago, but it seems like he's beginning to decline, tbh..the SF position sees a sharp decline for players that don't have niches IMO..it's also generally a difficult position to fit in your system when the SF isn't a 3 or D or 3-d guy..
Robz4000
02-17-2015, 07:18 PM
At this point the best bet for the Spurs would be to just wait and see the buyout market. There's no player out there that would really move the needle for the Spurs that could be had for their tradeable assets outside trading draft picks which they seem hesitant to move. If Diaw, Splitter, and Parker come around they'll be set, but if not there's no player to be had to offset their decline.
ace3g
02-17-2015, 10:14 PM
Shams Charania @ShamsCharania
(https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania)Suns informed Goran Dragic tonight that they'll accept his request for trade and work to move him by deadline, league source tells RealGM.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2015/02/17/goran-dragic-suns/23591221/
SpursFan86
02-17-2015, 10:23 PM
Really hope he doesn't go to any of the top 7 teams in the West.
SpursFan86
02-17-2015, 10:29 PM
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Good, good...
Andthentherewas21
02-17-2015, 10:32 PM
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Good, good...
After his last stint in Houston, doubt he would want to go back.
SpursFan86
02-17-2015, 10:35 PM
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Fine with me.
coachmac87
02-17-2015, 10:37 PM
Call me crazy but if I was the Thunder I'd trade for Dragic and move Westbrook to the 2....
N0 LyF3 ScRuB
02-17-2015, 10:48 PM
I think we pick up AK47 by buyout or trading Philly
gambit1990
02-17-2015, 11:25 PM
i hope dragic goes to ny.
SpurPadre
02-17-2015, 11:40 PM
I think we pick up AK47 by buyout or trading Philly
He had his chance and blew us off so fuck him. And I'm sure Pop doesn't appreciate him disrespecting Brett Brown. And on top of all that: NO. MORE. OLD. FUCKS. Well, unless we can get him for in exchange of Ginger Fuck.
exstatic
02-17-2015, 11:44 PM
I think we pick up AK47 by buyout or trading Philly
Why do people keep saying this? He has a well known feud with Ettore Messina. He called him out for leaving CSKA Moscow, owned by AK's friend(s).
SpurPadre
02-17-2015, 11:46 PM
Why do people keep saying this? He has a well known feud with Ettore Messina. He called him out for leaving CSKA Moscow, owned by AK's friend(s).
Oh yeah, I forget about that but when you combine that with his mutiny against Brown, there's no chance in hell we get him.
Ice009
02-18-2015, 12:40 AM
Oh yeah, I forget about that but when you combine that with his mutiny against Brown, there's no chance in hell we get him.
Against Brown? I'm not following.
Also, it's good that Dragic isn't interested in Houston. I figured he's pissed off with them or doesn't like them after they wouldn't pay him and let him go in the first place.
I have no idea what Houston were thinking letting go of both Lowry and Dragic. Two really, really good points guards and then they go sign Jeremy Lin instead. Fucking idiots.
Hoops Czar
02-18-2015, 01:16 AM
Really hope he doesn't go to any of the top 7 teams in the West.
I wouldn't mind him going to the seventh seed in the west at all.
tim_duncan_fan
02-18-2015, 01:48 AM
I wouldn't mind him going to the seventh seed in the west at all.
I pray that he somehow goes to the seventh seed in the West. His name is fucking Goran Dragic. He belongs here.
Spursfanfromafar
02-18-2015, 02:12 AM
Wont happen or not even going to be thought of by the Suns.. but hypothetically.. what if Suns are keen on Parker for Dragic? (Parker for Dragic + Green)
I would do it!
szkorhetz
02-18-2015, 02:16 AM
I pray that he somehow goes to the seventh seed in the West. His name is fucking Goran Dragic. He belongs here.
after this? No!
Amick reports that there are thought to be seven or eight teams seriously interested in Dragic and that he also wants to be given the freedom and support to run his own team such as Stephen Curry's situation with the Golden State Warriors.
DrSteffo
02-18-2015, 06:02 AM
He is actually a pretty good shooter (more so last season). If the Ayers+2nd trade could work, I don't think that would be enough. After Bledsoe and Goodwin on the wing, they'd really only have [Marcus] Morris there. [Zoran] Dragic, Goodwin, Warren, Bullock, are all unproven players. So unless its Beli +2nd rounder for Green i don't think it makes much sense for the Suns.
The Suns also have Tucker and it seems that most of their fans would like to get rid of Gerald Green. He shoots whenever he catches the ball and is one of the worst defenders in the league (worse than any player we have on our team). No thanks. I can fully understand that Dragic wants out of the Suns. It has become a collection of big egos rather than a basketball team.
cd021
02-18-2015, 10:57 AM
"Teams trying to move high-priced veterans like Prince, Andrea Bargnani (Knicks), Bass (Celtics),Kevin Martin (Timberwolves) and David Lee (Warriors) aren't likely to find any takers. All of the above, besides Lee, would then be headed for buyouts, sources say."
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/25072213/trade-deadline-buzz-uncertainty-reigns-as-deadline-approaches
Figured Bass but Martin is interesting, if true. He has two more years after this season and is on a pretty good contract ($6.8 this season, 7.0 and 7.3 million over the next two).
Chinook
02-18-2015, 11:06 AM
"Teams trying to move high-priced veterans like Prince, Andrea Bargnani (Knicks), Bass (Celtics),Kevin Martin (Timberwolves) and David Lee (Warriors) aren't likely to find any takers. All of the above, besides Lee, would then be headed for buyouts, sources say."
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/25072213/trade-deadline-buzz-uncertainty-reigns-as-deadline-approaches
Figured Bass but Martin is interesting, if true. He has two more years after this season and is on a pretty good contract ($6.8 this season, 7.0 and 7.3 million over the next two).
Yeah. someone is really planning on buying out Martin's contract....
Nope. I'd totally take on Martin for Beli and Ayres if the Wolves were willing to swap the Spurs' pick with the Heat pick.
cd021
02-18-2015, 11:11 AM
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--lakers--knicks--heat-among-goran-dragic-s-preferred-trade-destinations-040017423.html
Dragic's preferred destinations are Knicks, Lakers, & Heat^
He is apparently wary of returning to Rockets. Also heard somewhere else that he'd want Beverly to be move if the Rockets get him. Dragic and Beverly have the same agent and if Beverly gets move to the Suns he will see a sharp drop in minutes.
boutons_deux
02-18-2015, 11:12 AM
Two really, really good points guards and then they go sign Jeremy Lin instead. Fucking idiots.
Linsanity
szkorhetz
02-18-2015, 11:12 AM
Sanders is bought out.
cd021
02-18-2015, 11:24 AM
Yeah. someone is really planning on buying out Martin's contract....
Nope. I'd totally take on Martin for Beli and Ayres if the Wolves were willing to swap the Spurs' pick with the Heat pick.
Really like the idea of the Heat pick swap. Its top 10 protected, i believe. The Heat have made it clear that they aren't going to tank so that pick would probably be no worse than 15th and closer to 12th overall.
Haven't watched Bass much since Orlando. I know he can hit the mid-range jumper but how is he defensively?
tmtcsc
02-18-2015, 11:44 AM
Sanders is bought out.
You mean "strung" out.
SpursFan86
02-18-2015, 01:24 PM
Apparently Dallas has interest in Sanders.
1) How much fucking money do they have? Seems like they try to get literally everyone on the market.
2) He'd be a really good fit for them and I hope he doesn't go there. He could cover some of Amar'e's deficiencies on defense and would actually make their bench decent on that end. Obviously he's a huge question mark in terms of off-the-court stuff, but if he did get his shit straight, he could do wonders for them IMO. I've never considered Dallas a real threat. Not before the Rondo trade, not after, and not when they went out and got Amar'e. But if they get Sanders as well, and he pans out...they might be for real.
DrunkTXLabrat
02-18-2015, 02:13 PM
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1846/reggie-jackson
this is going to turn out really well for somebody. The spurs don't have a starting 1 job open. But Tony isn't exactly made of steel, and there's always Pops rest strategy. Jackson seems to perform well against the Spurs, iirc.
I think the Spurs should swap Cojo(+) for a rookie scale point like Lavine, instead of paying for an extension. If they're going to pay extension money, i'd rather they throw in some cap flex money and slap it down on the offer sheet table for Jackson. You don't get natural wingspan and athleticism from European farm minutes. Either way it goes down, Jackson solves the pending post-Manu, aged Tony crisis. Or Jackson cost somebody else that much more. You might be thinking, "isn't this the trade thread? What's with offer sheets and extension money?" Good point, wherever Jackson ends up... i'll be rooting that he doesn't sign an extension. And i'll hold out drunk hope on a 3 way deal with minny and okc.
SpursFan86
02-18-2015, 03:25 PM
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Chinook
02-18-2015, 03:29 PM
Obviously
Ditty
02-18-2015, 03:32 PM
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Good. Keep him away from a contender while he receives a nice paycheck from the Bucks still.
SpursFan86
02-18-2015, 06:35 PM
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Man, seems like these guys are always going to western playoff teams.
Cry Havoc
02-18-2015, 06:44 PM
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Man, seems like these guys are always going to western playoff teams.
Not sure that puts Portland over the top but will definitely make them even more of a contender. This conference is fucking insane. Fuck the East.
NASpurs
02-18-2015, 06:48 PM
http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nba/basketball-player-news
John Henson - F/C - Bucks
The Bucks have been dangling Ersan Ilyasova, O.J. Mayo and John Henson in the trade market.
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Henson anyone ?
SpursFan86
02-18-2015, 06:53 PM
Watch Afflalo go to Portland, Wilson Chandler to OKC, and Dragic to Houston :lol
look_at_g_shred
02-18-2015, 06:58 PM
http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nba/basketball-player-news
John Henson - F/C - Bucks
The Bucks have been dangling Ersan Ilyasova, O.J. Mayo and John Henson in the trade market.
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Henson anyone ?
Yes Henson please
703 Spurz
02-18-2015, 07:10 PM
Do any eastern conference teams ever sign these motherfuckers?
Malik Hairston
02-18-2015, 07:24 PM
Afflalo is on the downhill, he's an average player nowadays..another example of name recognition hype, tbh..he's a good post-up guard in a league that doesn't reward post-up guards anymore..
He has played well against the Spurs, but that's irrelevant on the large scale..
I like Chandler, I wanted him on the Spurs for years, but he's no longer an impact player, either IMO..
Dverde
02-18-2015, 07:36 PM
Spurs are going to do nothing. Affalo to Portland could bring them a title. I really think they are one player away.
Uriel
02-18-2015, 07:40 PM
Spurs are going to do nothing. Affalo to Portland could bring them a title. I really think they are one player away.
Who knows? Many of us were expecting the Spurs to make a move the past few years, but they never did. This year, none of us are expecting them to make a move, so it seems only appropriate that they would. :lol
SpursFan86
02-18-2015, 07:40 PM
Afflalo is on the downhill, he's an average player nowadays..another example of name recognition hype, tbh..he's a good post-up guard in a league that doesn't reward post-up guards anymore..
He has played well against the Spurs, but that's irrelevant on the large scale..
I like Chandler, I wanted him on the Spurs for years, but he's no longer an impact player, either IMO..
I mean neither of them are great players, but look at who they'll be replacing. Afflalo is a noticeable upgrade over someone like CJ McCollum or Crabbe or whoever the hell they're giving minutes to.
Same goes for OKC. Chandler isn't some game-changer, but when you compare him to Andre fucking Roberson, it's a noticeable improvement.
I'm not saying we should be freaking out or anything...but I'd definitely prefer if these teams didn't pick up guys like Afflalo/Chandler.
Malik Hairston
02-18-2015, 07:44 PM
They would be good additions, I don't think either of them changes anything, though..
Afflalo would be a nice addition to a shitty Portland bench, but that team doesn't have anything close to a championship-level team, just based on their gimmick style of play and personnel..
I don't think players like Wilson Chandler age well, tbh..he doesn't have a niche at a position that is most difficult to find a role on a team if you aren't a 3&D(or just 3/just D) guy..
SpursFan86
02-18-2015, 08:19 PM
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Maddog
02-18-2015, 08:24 PM
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That is interesting
spurspokesman
02-18-2015, 08:25 PM
The spurs will stand pat
timtonymanu
02-18-2015, 09:48 PM
It would suck if George went to a non-contender. The Pacers are a scrub team too but at least he's home.
spursnatic
02-18-2015, 09:53 PM
Would you guys be willing to do a Tony Parker a Pick and the trade exception on DeColo for Ty Lawson and Kenneth Farried?..Dude that is my dream trade right there!!..That would definitely secure us a Ring this year
exstatic
02-18-2015, 10:09 PM
Would you guys be willing to do a Tony Parker a Pick and the trade exception on DeColo for Ty Lawson and Kenneth Farried?..Dude that is my dream trade right there!!..That would definitely secure us a Ring this year
You can't combine a player and an exception.
MateoNeygro
02-18-2015, 10:20 PM
Spurs aren't going to make any moves. They have the same Championship team from last year and I highly doubt they are so shaken by the mediocre first half of the season that they uncharacteristically make a knee jerk trade. They can get Six without any trades.
Spurs aren't going to make any moves. They have the same Championship team from last year and I highly doubt they are so shaken by the mediocre first half of the season that they uncharacteristically make a knee jerk trade. They can get Six without any trades.
Yep. They Spurs aren't going to trade any major parts and aren't going to make a trade unless it obviously makes them better...and their ain't many ways to do that when you are dangling Bonner, Errors, and Baynes on the market.
TheGreatYacht
02-19-2015, 12:47 AM
Afflalo and I are on the downhill, ...
Agreed my nigg
DrunkTXLabrat
02-19-2015, 01:48 AM
Would you guys be willing to do a Tony Parker a Pick and the trade exception on DeColo for Ty Lawson and Kenneth Farried?..Dude that is my dream trade right there!!..That would definitely secure us a Ring this year
NO
DrunkTXLabrat
02-19-2015, 01:58 AM
i have read that the magic are willing to dump harkless for ayersish nothingness. i think that would be worth a shot.
if people are salivating over the career stats of reggie williams, i think harkless should be able to draw some support. but i'm a drunk. i change the channel when the angry madd member, who's kid died of texting and driving, comes on tv. and wants to pay money every time a cop spots her checking the weather on her way home. so idk. harkless seems like the kinda player who could play better under THE SYSTEM?
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1949/moe-harkless
spursnatic
02-19-2015, 09:56 AM
NO
I truthfully would not like getting rid of Parker, but I would have to think about it for a Monster like Faried and a decent Point Guard in return
hater
02-19-2015, 10:03 AM
^ the midget is a decent BACKUP PG (similar to Patty or Cojo). He's no starting material for a contender. :lol
LOL at that trade idea
Chillen
02-19-2015, 10:12 AM
Spurs need to make a move imo. They have a shot at a repeat but it will be tough as nails since the West is so crazy this year with talented teams. Pretty much any team can beat eachother 1-8. Standing pat I don't know if it's a good idea tbh. If a deal is there that improves the team, do it, but I expect them to stand pat and go for a repeat with the same squad.
Ice009
02-19-2015, 10:31 AM
What time does the trade deadline end in Eastern time?
look_at_g_shred
02-19-2015, 10:34 AM
What time does the trade deadline end in Eastern time?
3
Ice009
02-19-2015, 10:36 AM
3
So it's 3pm EST? I'm not from the US, so that's why I'm asking. Thanks.
TheGoldStandard
02-19-2015, 10:44 AM
Nothing to see here, would be shocked if they trade for anyone. ayers takes up dead space but he's still around so it won't surprise me if they try to find a PG to replace cojo that can't dribble
spursparker9
02-19-2015, 10:54 AM
Adrian Wojnarowski
@WojYahooNBA
So far, these teams believe they have nothing going at deadline: Clippers, Raptors, Spurs, Hawks, Grizzlies. Can always change w/ one call.
FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 11:00 AM
So 4 hours to go, right?
FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 11:01 AM
http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2015/02/19/2015-nba-trade-deadline-live-blog/
Blizzardwizard
02-19-2015, 11:18 AM
UPDATE: According to my sources, Spurs have traded Matt Bonner, Jeff Ayres and Danny Green for Reggie Jackson and Steven Adams.
SpursFan86
02-19-2015, 11:19 AM
Looks like OKC is going to get Brook Lopez after all...
FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 11:19 AM
UPDATE: According to my sources, Spurs have traded Matt Bonner, Jeff Ayres and Danny Green for Reggie Jackson and Steven Adams.
http://dailysnark.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/multiple-sources.gif
SpursFan86
02-19-2015, 11:20 AM
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Spur|n|Austin
02-19-2015, 11:20 AM
UPDATE: According to my sources, Spurs have traded Matt Bonner, Jeff Ayres and Danny Green for Reggie Jackson and Steven Adams.
TSpence source?
TheGoldStandard
02-19-2015, 11:20 AM
For stupidity sake I have a 4 team deal that lands Parker to Minnesota, Marco and ayers to Utah and we get Kevin Martin and Crawford to SA. This is the kind of nonsense that's being pushed
spursparker9
02-19-2015, 11:22 AM
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Fuck...
benefactor
02-19-2015, 11:22 AM
:lol OKC going after Lopez
:lol more players that need the ball
FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 11:23 AM
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benefactor
02-19-2015, 11:24 AM
Fuck...
Brook Lopez sucks. He can't defend and doesn't rebound. He'll just stand there waiting for Westbrick to pass it to him.:lol
FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 11:25 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=net6vql
TheGoldStandard
02-19-2015, 11:25 AM
So Brooklyn will continue to suck, OKC gets another big but no competent backup wing and lose a competent back up Pg
Seventyniner
02-19-2015, 11:26 AM
So the Thunder wouldn't pay the luxury tax for James Harden but they'll do it for Brook Lopez? They'll be well over the tax next season if they trade Reggie + Perk for Brook and Brook picks up his $16+M player option.
Spur|n|Austin
02-19-2015, 11:26 AM
So Brooklyn will continue to suck, OKC gets another big but no competent backup wing and lose a competent back up Pg
https://38.media.tumblr.com/0a2b3476b997e5805639ffc42318c3ea/tumblr_ndw6sw6xbz1ruqqm0o1_500.gif
Seventyniner
02-19-2015, 11:27 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=net6vql
:lmao
Took me a while to get the joke.
Edit: I thought Garnett to Minny was the joke but Woj says it's actually possible.
568444011175919617
Joke's on me, I suppose.
FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 11:27 AM
afflalo to portland done
FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 11:27 AM
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loveforthegame
02-19-2015, 11:29 AM
Good deal for Portland.
benefactor
02-19-2015, 11:29 AM
:lolKC trying to build the most poorly constructed team in NBA history. Waiters, Durant, Westbrook and Lopez all on the same team?
rofl
FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 11:31 AM
Robonsin, Barton, Claver and protected 1st for Afflalo and Gee
DesignatedT
02-19-2015, 11:33 AM
Not afraid of any of these rumors tbh. Lol Brook Lopez.
spursparker9
02-19-2015, 11:34 AM
Brook Lopez sucks. He can't defend and doesn't rebound. He'll just stand there waiting for Westbrick to pass it to him.:lol
I believe he is at least 3 times better than the Great Kendrick Perkins
Spur|n|Austin
02-19-2015, 11:36 AM
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benefactor
02-19-2015, 11:36 AM
I believe he is at least 3 times better than the Great Kendrick Perkins
Actually, he probably isn't. All he does is score on isolations. That's the last thing OKC needs.
hater
02-19-2015, 11:44 AM
Lopez is a big that needs to be fed. Good luck thinking Chimp will play along with that :lol
SpursFan86
02-19-2015, 11:55 AM
Actually, he probably isn't. All he does is score on isolations. That's the last thing OKC needs.
He can shoot spot up jumpers pretty well, can't he?
Anyways, I think playing him with the starting unit would be a bad decision. Obviously there aren't enough touches to go around, and he sure as hell isn't going to be contributing much defensively or on the boards. But he could work well if they played him with the bench. Highly doubt they're going to be bringing in a guy making $16 million/year so he can play on the bench though, and I doubt he'd want to do that too.
FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 11:56 AM
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timtonymanu
02-19-2015, 11:57 AM
:lmao fearing Brook Lopez
RoLo >> Brook, tbh.
That Afflalo trade is a good one for Portland though.
FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 12:00 PM
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BG_Spurs_Fan
02-19-2015, 12:04 PM
Why would Washington do that? Surely there's another asset for them.
spursparker9
02-19-2015, 12:05 PM
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Brook Lopez, if healthy, would be a nice weapon for the Thunder, assuming Westbrook will not jack up threes, but instead feed the post. They've never had a post up big man, so I'm not so sure how that will work out. That said, Brook Lopez ends every season about two or three months early with a broken foot, so I'm not sure how many games he'll actually suit up for the Thunder.
szkorhetz
02-19-2015, 12:06 PM
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WTF?
benefactor
02-19-2015, 12:06 PM
Brook Lopez, if healthy, would be a nice weapon for the Thunder, assuming Westbrook will not jack up threes, but instead feed the post.
:lol
FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 12:06 PM
Why would Washington do that? Surely there's another asset for them.
salaries donīt match anyway...
spursparker9
02-19-2015, 12:07 PM
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FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 12:07 PM
salaries donīt match anyway...
Reggie Evans or Ryan Hollins maybe?
Why is Minnesota trading for Garnett? They are a lottery team and should be in win now mode. Maybe they see Garnett as an expiring contract and want to give the fans one last time to cheer their best player in franchise history. I'm assuming they are just giving players they don't want and no draft picks. That being the case, why would NJ trade him given that they are trying to dump salary themselves and they are more likely to get a pick from a contender?
FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 12:09 PM
^nostalgia i guees. and he wants to own them anyway...
TheGoldStandard
02-19-2015, 12:11 PM
76ers are taking all the C/PFs
FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 12:13 PM
McGee could be a god asset next trade deadline...
FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 12:14 PM
good :lol
loveforthegame
02-19-2015, 12:15 PM
Looks like Philly is getting a 2.5 million trade exception in the trade.
FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 12:15 PM
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So Lawson and Chandler stay.
look_at_g_shred
02-19-2015, 12:15 PM
Who else thinks OKC would be easier to beat with lopez?
hater
02-19-2015, 12:16 PM
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So Lawson and Chandler stay.
:lol no shit Adrian. great reporting :lol
spursparker9
02-19-2015, 12:19 PM
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spursparker9
02-19-2015, 12:20 PM
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szkorhetz
02-19-2015, 12:20 PM
Reggie Evans or Ryan Hollins maybe?
In any Lopez deal, Perkins HAVE TO BE included!
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 12:20 PM
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spursparker9
02-19-2015, 12:20 PM
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FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 12:21 PM
In any Lopez deal, Perkins HAVE TO BE included!
Was talking about an addition to the Sessions-Miller swap...
spursparker9
02-19-2015, 12:28 PM
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cd021
02-19-2015, 12:31 PM
Who else thinks OKC would be easier to beat with lopez?
I do
cd021
02-19-2015, 12:31 PM
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cd021
02-19-2015, 12:32 PM
568459830777815040
probably have to take on Danny Granger as well in any deal including Cole.
spursparker9
02-19-2015, 12:34 PM
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cd021
02-19-2015, 12:35 PM
76ers are taking all the C/PFs
They'd probably take Karl Anthony Towns in the draft....just because.
spursparker9
02-19-2015, 12:35 PM
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spursparker9
02-19-2015, 12:37 PM
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Steve-O-Matic
02-19-2015, 12:38 PM
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Zero chance of that, IMO. Would make no sense for either party. McGee is owed $12M next season, never mind the remainder of this season. He's not going to forfeit any of that in the form of a buyout, nor should he. And from the Sixers side, the amount of any acceptable buyout would grossly exceed the amount it would take so simply buy a late 1st round pick on draft night (the pick they're getting is from OKC and is protected)....typically in the $3-4M range.
spursparker9
02-19-2015, 12:38 PM
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NASpurs
02-19-2015, 12:39 PM
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NASpurs
02-19-2015, 12:40 PM
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NASpurs
02-19-2015, 12:41 PM
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SpursFan86
02-19-2015, 12:42 PM
568464739388530688
Sounds like it's basically a done deal.
spursparker9
02-19-2015, 12:42 PM
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look_at_g_shred
02-19-2015, 12:45 PM
Can we just give Ayres away?
FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 12:46 PM
Can we just give Ayres away?
Back to portland. They have a roster spot and need for a big now :lol
spursparker9
02-19-2015, 12:46 PM
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Spur|n|Austin
02-19-2015, 12:53 PM
Can we just give Ayres away?
Reminds me of that baseball player who was traded for used baseball equipment and some bats - we could just give Ayers away for some Cabana or Whataburger?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Odom_%28baseball%29
TheGoldStandard
02-19-2015, 12:59 PM
Knowing the Spurs they'd get rid of Ayres who can't shoot, rebound well, catch, play consistently and fouls all the time for 6 foot tall small forward who can't jump and has small arms
Hoops Czar
02-19-2015, 01:49 PM
You know a forum has fallen flat on its face when the most popular seasonal thread reaches only 14 pages in length and 50 minutes between posts.
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:01 PM
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FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 02:10 PM
And Philly to take another salary (Budinger) with a pick...
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:21 PM
:lol Kanter
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FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 02:21 PM
568490355370434561
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:24 PM
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RD2191
02-19-2015, 02:27 PM
Parker for Jackson on of nowhere!
timtonymanu
02-19-2015, 02:29 PM
Looks like this will be a lackluster trade deadline. SpurPadre must be fuming over his boy Bonner still being a Spur. :lol
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:30 PM
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FlAVaK
02-19-2015, 02:30 PM
Parker for Jackson on of nowhere!
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a7/74/87/a7748719b4b47877ab979a5ffdd204f2.jpg
RD2191
02-19-2015, 02:31 PM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a7/74/87/a7748719b4b47877ab979a5ffdd204f2.jpg
:lmao
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:31 PM
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NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:34 PM
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NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:35 PM
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cd021
02-19-2015, 02:38 PM
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Cheaper, younger and much less injury prone. Not as productive though.
cd021
02-19-2015, 02:39 PM
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:tu
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:40 PM
:lol you can smell the desperation
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SpursFan86
02-19-2015, 02:41 PM
I will laugh my ass off if OKC gets Kanter. He's definitely worse than Lopez, and from all reports he thinks he's worth way more money than he deserves.
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:42 PM
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Mel_13
02-19-2015, 02:42 PM
:lol @ Broussard on ESPN talking about the Lopez situation as if he has sources other than the Woj twitter feed.
szkorhetz
02-19-2015, 02:45 PM
I will laugh my ass off if OKC gets Kanter. He's definitely worse than Lopez, and from all reports he thinks he's worth way more money than he deserves.
Why the fuck would the Jazz need Jackson with Burke and Exum on their team?
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:45 PM
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NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:46 PM
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NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:47 PM
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Chinook
02-19-2015, 02:48 PM
568496799188721667
If Detroit gave up anything of value... Probably means Kanter to OKC
timtonymanu
02-19-2015, 02:48 PM
Well, that picked up fast. :lol Never mind.
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:48 PM
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SpursFan86
02-19-2015, 02:52 PM
So what is OKC getting back? Monroe maybe?
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:52 PM
Jackson going from one shithole to another :lol
szkorhetz
02-19-2015, 02:52 PM
So what is OKC getting back? Monroe maybe?
I am feeling KCP.
Ditty
02-19-2015, 02:53 PM
I'm hearing Jodie Meeks...
SpursFan86
02-19-2015, 02:54 PM
@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) 9s10 seconds ago (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/568498790661038080) Utah is finalizing a deal to send Enes Kanter to Oklahoma City, league source tells Yahoo Sports.
:lmao
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:54 PM
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NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:55 PM
:lmao Porkins :lmao :lmao
:lol young core
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timtonymanu
02-19-2015, 02:55 PM
:lol I dislike OKC a little less now that Porkins is gone. Fuck that piece of shit.
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:56 PM
:lmao
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Robz4000
02-19-2015, 02:57 PM
:lol now Meth has penis cancer
Ditty
02-19-2015, 02:57 PM
:lmao Utah gave up Milsap for Kanter and Perkins
timtonymanu
02-19-2015, 02:58 PM
Singler and Kanter was the best OKC can do? :lol
InRareForm
02-19-2015, 02:58 PM
Won't have to worry about Reggie going off against spurs in playoffs anymore
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:58 PM
:lmao another point guard :lmao
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NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:59 PM
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timtonymanu
02-19-2015, 02:59 PM
:lmao another point guard :lmao
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WTF :lol
That shitty franchise
szkorhetz
02-19-2015, 02:59 PM
:lmao
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OKC. :lmao
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 02:59 PM
Ok it makes more sense now :lol
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look_at_g_shred
02-19-2015, 03:00 PM
Won't have to worry about Reggie going off against spurs in playoffs anymore
He never went off in the playoffs
SpursFan86
02-19-2015, 03:00 PM
WTF is going on :lol
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 03:00 PM
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NASpurs
02-19-2015, 03:01 PM
MCW in Milwaukee? Fucking crazy.
Mel_13
02-19-2015, 03:01 PM
Trading Perkins+Jackson for Singler +Kanter doesn't make the Thunder better, but it does get them under the luxury tax.
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 03:01 PM
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szkorhetz
02-19-2015, 03:01 PM
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Knight>>>>>>>>>MCW
Robz4000
02-19-2015, 03:01 PM
Why the fuck would Milwaukee trade Brandon Knight? He isn't a great PG but he's played well for them. Also, :lmao Phoenix...
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 03:02 PM
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Ditty
02-19-2015, 03:02 PM
Why the hell did the Bucks trade Brandon Knight? Wasn't he having a great season for once? :lol
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 03:02 PM
Someone is wrong here!!
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Robz4000
02-19-2015, 03:03 PM
Trading Perkins+Jackson for Singler +Kanter doesn't make the Thunder better, but it does get them under the luxury tax.
I'm a fan of Singler but it does make them worse imo, at least in a match up with the Spurs and Grizz.
look_at_g_shred
02-19-2015, 03:03 PM
So Who's OKCs backup pg? And good Perkins gave duncan fits
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 03:03 PM
Did IT go to Philly or Boston? In Woj we trust? :lol
Richie
02-19-2015, 03:03 PM
Woj, Stein and Aldridge all reporting different deals
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 03:04 PM
Houston has their point guard :lol
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Malik Hairston
02-19-2015, 03:04 PM
Knight is pretty overrated, but Carter-Williams fucking sucks, tbh:lol..
Good move for Phoenix from a basketball standpoint, though, Thomas is one of the most cancerous players in the league..
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 03:04 PM
WOJ BOMBS!!!
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NASpurs
02-19-2015, 03:04 PM
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Richie
02-19-2015, 03:04 PM
KJ McDaniels traded???
szkorhetz
02-19-2015, 03:05 PM
WOJ BOMBS!!!
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KJ seems a good Harden backup.
SpursFan86
02-19-2015, 03:06 PM
Yeah I actually like that move by Houston.
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 03:07 PM
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peacemaker885
02-19-2015, 03:07 PM
I don't get Phoenix - now they don't have Dragic and Thomas...
Malik Hairston
02-19-2015, 03:08 PM
Wow, nice move for the Rockets..Ariza and McDaniels with the defense/athleticism at wing is frightening(although both unreliable shooters)..
szkorhetz
02-19-2015, 03:08 PM
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So much shooting.
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 03:08 PM
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NASpurs
02-19-2015, 03:10 PM
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Malik Hairston
02-19-2015, 03:10 PM
Miami made the best move, so far, really hoping they get Cleveland in round 1:lol..
Afflalo is a nice bench addition, Kanter is alright, Phoenix and Milwaukee are probably about the same as before, and Houston improved..
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 03:11 PM
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szkorhetz
02-19-2015, 03:12 PM
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Traded Rondo and now get Isiah? Nice.....
SpurPadre
02-19-2015, 03:13 PM
Looks like this will be a lackluster trade deadline. SpurPadre (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=29323) must be fuming over his boy Bonner still being a Spur. :lol
Nah, I look at him as the team's HIV...there is no cure. But he's like Magic's HIV in that you can still succeed with it somehow for an unusually long time.
Robz4000
02-19-2015, 03:13 PM
DJ Augustine on Meth now? Not sure how I feel about this.
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 03:13 PM
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RD2191
02-19-2015, 03:14 PM
Nah, I look at him as the team's HIV...there is no cure. But he's like Magic's HIV in that you can still succeed with it somehow for an unusually long time.
:lmao
RD2191
02-19-2015, 03:14 PM
DJ Augustine on Meth now? Not sure how I feel about this.
Lil douche goes off on us sometimes.
timtonymanu
02-19-2015, 03:15 PM
DJ Augustine on Meth now? Not sure how I feel about this.
Meh, he's a scrub that was awful in last year's playoffs. I don't buy into how much he owns the Spurs in the regular season.
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 03:17 PM
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SpursFan86
02-19-2015, 03:17 PM
So OKC got Kanter, Augustin, Singler, and Novak in exchange for Jackson and Perkins? That's a pretty good deal for them IMO...
timtonymanu
02-19-2015, 03:17 PM
Yeah, Houston made a good move. Scary matchup for the Spurs if everyone is healthy.
NASpurs
02-19-2015, 03:18 PM
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timtonymanu
02-19-2015, 03:19 PM
I seriously thought John Salmons was out of the league already. :lol
RD2191
02-19-2015, 03:20 PM
Yeah, Houston made a good move. Scary matchup for the Spurs if everyone is healthy.
The only scary thing about Houston is how easily Harden gets to the line. He can get some of our starters in foul trouble early. If the refs let them play I'll take the Spurs in 5 or 6.
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