View Full Version : Top 3 spurs playmaker..
apalisoc_9
01-25-2015, 12:21 AM
Manu
Boris
Kawhi
or
Manu
Boris
Patty
?
Nathan89
01-25-2015, 12:23 AM
Timmy tbh
Manu
Boris
Kawhi
Patty is a scoring spark plug. Creating plays for others isn't Timmy's forte tbh.
apalisoc_9
01-25-2015, 12:34 AM
Timmy tbh
mainstream big 3 fan..
SMDH.
ducks
01-25-2015, 12:35 AM
did you every notice spurs won a motion o most of the time
ducks
01-25-2015, 12:36 AM
patty is not a playmaker he shots threes
apalisoc_9
01-25-2015, 12:38 AM
Patty is a playmaker in a sense that he creates shots for his teamates through ball movement.
It doesn't always have to be the last pass.
spursfaninla
01-25-2015, 12:39 AM
Well, one way to decide who are the "top 3 playmakers" on the team would be to look at the number of assists each player per game. Maybe I am being old fashioned, but I think assists do speak to "play making."
Those would be, in order of assists per game:
Manu 4.8
Tony 4.7
Boris and Tim: 3.2
Cojo: 3
Leonard 2.4
Patty 1.6
apalisoc_9
01-25-2015, 12:47 AM
Well, one way to decide who are the "top 3 playmakers" on the team would be to look at the number of assists each player per game. Maybe I am being old fashioned, but I think assists do speak to "play making."
Those would be, in order of assists per game:
Manu 4.8
Tony 4.7
Boris and Tim: 3.2
Cojo: 3
Leonard 2.4
Patty 1.6
RAW Assist is an antiqued way of evaluating playmaking. You have to consider player usage and overall touches in general, and how they get their assist.
Both Manu and Boris play significantly less minutes than Parker and Leonard and considering the amount of touches they get...3.2 and 4.8 should be significantly better than a player who handles the ball majority of the time like Tony.
Leonard is an SF who hardly plays the PnR. 90% of his assist are from the Low post which suggest he is a great playmaker in the post...
SnakeBoy
01-25-2015, 12:48 AM
Well, one way to decide who are the "top 3 playmakers" on the team would be to look at the number of assists each player per game. Maybe I am being old fashioned, but I think assists do speak to "play making."
Those would be, in order of assists per game:
Manu 4.8
Tony 4.7
Boris and Tim: 3.2
Cojo: 3
Leonard 2.4
Patty 1.6
Damn, Kawhi really is a ball stopper.
Brunodf
01-25-2015, 12:56 AM
Kawhi is not a good passer...One of the few flaws in his game tbh.
So Manu/Diaw/Duncan
LongtimeSpursFan
01-25-2015, 01:13 AM
RAW Assist is an antiqued way of evaluating playmaking. You have to consider player usage and overall touches in general, and how they get their assist.
Both Manu and Boris play significantly less minutes than Parker and Leonard and considering the amount of touches they get...3.2 and 4.8 should be significantly better than a player who handles the ball majority of the time like Tony.
Leonard is an SF who hardly plays the PnR. 90% of his assist are from the Low post which suggest he is a great playmaker in the post...
This doesn't make any sense and I've been coaching basketball for 20 years. Playmakers have the ability to put the ball on the floor and get to the rim and/or score or make a pass to another player for scoring opportunity, they also have the ability to create their own shots or make a pass to another player for a better shot. Opposing teams tend to create defensive schemes to slow them down as they create mismatch opportunities. The three players on the Spurs team that can do this with ease are Parker, Manu and Diaw. There is fourth Spurs player even closes to doing this for Spurs except for a younger Timmy.
apalisoc_9
01-25-2015, 01:16 AM
This doesn't make any sense and I've been coaching basketball for 20 years. Playmakers have the ability to put the ball on the floor and get to the rim and/or score or make a pass to another player for scoring opportunity, they also have the ability to create their own shots or make a pass to another player for a better shot. Opposing teams tend to create defensive schemes to slow them down as they create mismatch opportunities. The three players on the Spurs team that can do this with ease are Parker, Manu and Diaw. There is fourth Spurs player even closes to doing this for Spurs except for a younger Timmy.
Leonard doesn't create mismatch opportunities?..
Last I seen POP has been using it religiously to create offense..
Maybe you see things differently from POP.
Heck coaches in the league have absolutely abandoned placing an a good SF defender on Parker now and instead have those players stick with Leonard...
Last I checked kawhi is the number 1 transition option..Got make plays for the team said pop.
ducks
01-25-2015, 01:37 AM
Leonard is the Spurs best d player but not o they have called his number more this year then all combined but he is a work in progress just like tp in year 3
Nathan89
01-25-2015, 02:00 AM
mainstream big 3 fan..
SMDH.
You are an idiot.
Nathan89
01-25-2015, 02:06 AM
just had to make a counter punch thread to the "Leonard is a ball stopper" thread. Sensitive fan defending the honor of his favorite player.:lol
ChumpDumper
01-25-2015, 03:17 AM
Hipster applesauce thread.
rasuo214
01-25-2015, 05:10 AM
Depends on what you consider a playmaker. If we're talking strictly halfcourt sets/ball handling/passing etc. then Kawhi probably isn't, but if you include turnovers, rebounding, fastbreaks then he certainly is. No one can deny Kawhi has a big impact in those 3 categories.
FireMicoHalili
01-25-2015, 09:12 AM
Baynes Ayres and Leonard because I am definitely not a mainstream big three fan
eric365
01-25-2015, 09:18 AM
If we are being honest:
- Healthy Tony / Manu
- Boris / Timmy / CJ
- Kawhi / Splitter / Mills
- the rest
Hemotivo
01-25-2015, 09:29 AM
patty is not a playmaker he shots threes
this
hater
01-25-2015, 09:36 AM
Kawhi is not a good passer...One of the few flaws in his game tbh.
So Manu/Diaw/Duncan
r0drig0lac
01-25-2015, 10:28 AM
not Kawhi
Diego20
01-25-2015, 11:07 AM
This season
Manu/Diaw/Kawhi
Past seasons
Manu/Tony/Diaw
pookenstein
01-25-2015, 11:13 AM
All OP tries to do is land a subtle jab against Tony. It's as obvious as it is boring.
TheGreatYacht
01-25-2015, 12:05 PM
Our Center averages more assists than Matrix? Damn :lol
Diego20
01-25-2015, 12:11 PM
Our Center averages more assists than Matrix? Damn :lol
Our backup SG averages more assists than our starter PG? damn :lol
TheGreatYacht
01-25-2015, 12:23 PM
Our backup SG averages more assists than our injured PG?
Yup, he's a playmaker though...
I'm talking about a CENTER passing more than our "best player" :lol
Diego20
01-25-2015, 01:14 PM
Yup, Manu is the best all time Spurs playmaker
Agree 100%
Andthentherewas21
01-25-2015, 01:43 PM
Dylan, Dylan, and Dylan
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