Trade Rondo

[mavsfan1000]

It's obvious the Mavs offense requires their point guard to be a spot up shooter. We picked possibly the worst spot up shooting guard in the league.

[Bulaien999]

Lol, really??? You made your bed mavs fan.

No one is trading for him, but he might walk to another team and you will lose him for nothing

[m>s]

Thanks for reminding be the game is on but you're a backpeddling flip flopping pussy

[313]

Pat Bev would've been a nice addition

[Franklin]

Rondo can sneak into the paint at will and his rebounding is very good for his position/size, both of which can help us a lot imho. It's been just one month or something since he became a mav, we better give him and Carlisle some more time to see if we can finally find a way to make him contribute. Parsons also played like shit in his first several games as a mav, if I remember correct.

[Malik Hairston]

Mavs have too many mediocre players and players with no niche, tbh..

[Malik Hairston]

How did the Tyson injury look? Serious?

[Malik Hairston]

Damn, Ellis is just shitting all over the Pelicans..

[Clipper Nation]

What happened to "Restaaaaaacked"?

[Malik Hairston]

Mavs made some awful decisions down the stretch, uncharacteristically low IQ basketball..

[mavsfan1000]

Rondo's defense not so good tonight. Looked like Nelson with letting players hit 3's.

[mavsfan1000]

We sucked. Hellish month coming up. Parsons needs to do more of the dirty work.

[MarioSpeedwagon]

We sucked. Hellish month coming up. Parsons needs to do more of the dirty work.
You saying the four rebounds he grabbed in the last 3 games isn't enough?

[AaronY]

You saying the four rebounds he grabbed in the last 3 games isn't enough?

Lol

[Jodelo]

What happened to "Restaaaaaacked"?

mavsfag just doing his usual "thing".

:lobt: when the Mavs win
:depressedwhen the Mavs lose

[Killakobe81]

Like I said with the way Ellis was playing and how filthy the Dirk/Parsons pnr is ... and the need to integrate Parsons as the #3 ...i thought the Rondo trade was not a wise move. Yes, Nelson sucked Harris has not been consistent either ... but none of those guys have a negative impact on Ellis and Parsons. A knockdown shooter (like Calderon) along with JJB and a defense first PG would be a perfect setup for this Mavs team. They were more of a darkhorse title team pre-trade ... now I think bench/front-court depth and fit between Rondo/Ellis will undo these Mavs come playoffs.

[hater]

You saying the four rebounds he grabbed in the last 3 games isn't enough?

:lol max level player :lol

[weebo]

Who gives a flying fuck? Those fags in blue weren't going anywhere anyway.

[Killakobe81]

Who gives a flying fuck? Those fags in blue weren't going anywhere anyway.

I think they had an outside shot and should have sought a smaller move to solidify that shot versus gambling on Rondo.

[angrydude]

Who knew a jump shooting team needed shooters?

[Killakobe81]

Who knew a jump shooting team needed shooters?

They have some shooters. Dirk and Parsons can shoot and Ellis is streaky. Problem is Rondo needs ball in his hands to contribute ... and though he can play defense like most players when they dont contribute on offense they tend to slack on defense. Rondo doesnt care about shots but likes to pound the ball and create assists. Kidd though when here (DFW) didnt mind giving up the ball and didnt care if he recorded the assist.

My worry is that Rajon will sign in L.A. and if not utilized right and surrounded with proper team-mates we will pay near max money and have the same problems as Mavs without a top notch coach to cover for it ...

[Bulaien999]

Parsons is more streaky than Ellis though.... the same way its frustrating as a rockets fan seeing shot distribution amongst the team, the mavs have the same problems

[SPM]

Need to switch up the Monta/Rondo backcourt. It's obvious it won't work, if they have to choose one they will obviously pick Rondo. Need a two guard who doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective, more like a Afflalo or Matthews. To a lesser extent Danny Green or Marco B.

[Killakobe81]

Need to switch up the Monta/Rondo backcourt. It's obvious it won't work, if they have to choose one they will obviously pick Rondo. Need a two guard who doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective, more like a Afflalo or Matthews. To a lesser extent Danny Green or Marco B.

that would be dumb ellis has been the better player for at least the last 3 seasons ...especially the last 2 under RC ...

Rondo may be your next PG as Dwight tries to buddy up with his co-horts ...

[Bulaien999]

that would be dumb ellis has been the better player for at least the last 3 seasons ...especially the last 2 under RC ...

Rondo may be your next PG as Dwight tries to buddy up with his co-horts ...

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[mavsfan1000]

that would be dumb ellis has been the better player for at least the last 3 seasons ...especially the last 2 under RC ...

Rondo may be your next PG as Dwight tries to buddy up with his co-horts ...
Rondo needs to go or come off the bench.

[Phillip]

Need to switch up the Monta/Rondo backcourt. It's obvious it won't work, if they have to choose one they will obviously pick Rondo. Need a two guard who doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective, more like a Afflalo or Matthews. To a lesser extent Danny Green or Marco B.

http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/4286-kill-yourself.jpg

[Killakobe81]

Rondo needs to go or come off the bench.

that would be wise but it really doesnt matter who starts. Or at least it shouldn't. It's who finishes and RC has been utilizing non Rondo lineups to close. SO he may not re-sign but if it's gamble that doesnt pay-off you didnt give up to much. I would not have made such a big move but that has been the Dallas front-office since 2011. They gambled on Tyson and won ...let him walk and lost maybe they thought they could get the same from rondo.

[phxspurfan]

http://www.mavs.com/team/player-roster/


9 ppg
.309 FT%
.411 FG%


that's like some D League numbers right there

[ElNono]

watching this game against MEM, dude is so bad, tbh... :lol

[Franklin]

We'll be stacked again as soon as we get a legit backup C but I don't think a backup C is worth losing Rondo who's still arguably one of the best PGs in the league. Just sign Jermaine or Okafor and the league will be fucked. There's a reason we always struggle against teams that are strong in the paint. Obviously TC himself ain't enough for us to strengthen our paint and even TC is rather thin by a big's standard.

[m>s]

Would do better to move rondo for a decent pg who can shoot and a solid backup c. Rondo for Bledsoe/plumlee or len??

[Robz4000]

Would do better to move rondo for a decent pg who can shoot and a solid backup c. Rondo for Bledsoe/plumlee or len??

:lol C'mon man, the Suns are retarded but not that retarded.

[m>s]

Gotta dream homie

[Franklin]

or maybe we can turn Monta into a spot up shooter, or move him to the bench and promote JJB to the starting five. i've said like a million times that Monta would better suit the role of a sixth man, he's JET 2.0 tbh.

[Robz4000]

or maybe we can turn Monta into a spot up shooter, or move him to the bench and promote JJB to the starting five. i've said like a million times that Monta would better suit the role of a sixth man, he's JET 2.0 tbh.

The Mavs would be murdered on defense if Barea became a starter; he's way too small to trout out there against the West's PGs.

[ElNono]

Dude cannot be traded until mid-Febraury anyways, and cannot be traded back to Boston until the end of the season...

[Sean Cagney]

We'll be stacked again as soon as we get a legit backup C but I don't think a backup C is worth losing Rondo who's still arguably one of the best PGs in the league. Just sign Jermaine or Okafor and the league will be fucked. There's a reason we always struggle against teams that are strong in the paint. Obviously TC himself ain't enough for us to strengthen our paint and even TC is rather thin by a big's standard.

So you think Jermaine Oneal is all the team needs? He is pretty washed up IMO but you seem to think highly of him if you think the league is fucked by just signing Oneal. Okafor no clue as he has not played in along ass time, dude might still have something left?

[313]

Crofl Rondo overrated stat padder

Mavs 11-8 since trade. Offense no longer top five.

Thank you @Celtics

[GuerillaBlack]

Mavs fans turning on Carlisle now :lol

[Franklin]

we didn't lose too much in the Rondo trade though. all we lost was a solid backup C in Wright but such type of players are not irreplaceable imho, just sign Jermaine or Okafor and it'd be fair to say the Rondo trade cost us basically nothing, knowing that Nelson was just horrible and the picks of a perennial playoff team wouldn't have much value. Plus, we're just going through a tough schedule lately but we still managed a winning record, and we'll only get better as Rondo (also Parsons for that matter) adapts to our system.

[Phillip]

Really need Jermaine. Powell has a lot of promise to develop into a real solid backup PF/C, but is too small right now. They need at least one defender with some strength to handle guys like Randolph. Tyson is a bit too skinny to match up with his brute strength.

[Phillip]

Parsons is the key though. He is the glue of the team.

[DPG21920]

Well they are SOL then ^

[Cry Havoc]

It'll be interesting to see how many dimes Rondo gets in Dallas, considering there have been numerous reports of Boston artificially inflating that stat since they've had him.

[SPM]

that would be dumb ellis has been the better player for at least the last 3 seasons ...especially the last 2 under RC ...

Rondo may be your next PG as Dwight tries to buddy up with his co-horts ...

You really think if Cuban has to pick between the two he picks Ellis?? Lol no

[djohn2oo8]

that would be dumb ellis has been the better player for at least the last 3 seasons ...especially the last 2 under RC ...

Rondo may be your next PG as Dwight tries to buddy up with his co-horts ...
Rox had the chance to trade for Rondo multiple times and didn't do it. They don't want him.

[Bulaien999]

You really think if Cuban has to pick between the two he picks Ellis?? Lol no

Between Ellis and Rondo, you pick Ellis all day.

[SPM]

Between Ellis and Rondo, you pick Ellis all day.

:lol

[hater]

Between Ellis and Rondo, you pick Ellis all day.

Both are role players that need a superstar to really shine. Unfortunately dirk looks washed up.

[Phillip]

Only morons would say Cubes would take Rondo over Ellis.

Ellis is literally one of few guys that no one can shut down guarding him 1-on-1. He has impressed me quite a bit, as I was skeptical of their initial pick-up of him, but after seeing nearly every game he has played in as a Maverick, I have yet to see someone accomplish that, or even find a way to consistently stop him from getting off shots he is very comfortable with and can make with consistency. Now when you send timely doubles at him, he can struggle a bit more because of his size, but overall, for his size, he is as good of an offensive player as anyone else in the league. Add to it, he is highly clutch, doesn't get rattled mentally, and never gives up no matter what the situation is. He's a lot better than I had imagined him being (although I'm sure having Carlisle and Dirk helped him immensely), and really is one of the more underrated players in the league, even despite his inconsistent defense.

[Killakobe81]

Only morons would say Cubes would take Rondo over Ellis.

Ellis is literally one of few guys that no one can shut down guarding him 1-on-1. He has impressed me quite a bit, as I was skeptical of their initial pick-up of him, but after seeing nearly every game he has played in as a Maverick, I have yet to see someone accomplish that, or even find a way to consistently stop him from getting off shots he is very comfortable with and can make with consistency. Now when you send timely doubles at him, he can struggle a bit more because of his size, but overall, for his size, he is as good of an offensive player as anyone else in the league. Add to it, he is highly clutch, doesn't get rattled mentally, and never gives up no matter what the situation is. He's a lot better than I had imagined him being (although I'm sure having Carlisle and Dirk helped him immensely), and really is one of the more underrated players in the league, even despite his inconsistent defense.


I second all of this, but I would give Rc the primary credit. Dont get me wrong Dirk like David did for Duncan has ceded the clutch role to Ellis. I really like what RC has done with Montae and I think in most tangible ways he is superior to Rondo. IF Mavs let him go I would love him in La but we don't have a good coach to maximize his talent. I dont watch every Mav game here in DFW ... but I have seen him a bunch and he still almost prime Parker quick but has become a better ball player.

[Mel_13]

I second all of this, but I would give Rc the primary credit. Dont get me wrong Dirk like David did for Duncan has ceded the clutch role to Ellis. I really like what RC has done with Montae and I think in most tangible ways he is superior to Rondo. IF Mavs let him go I would love him in La but we don't have a good coach to maximize his talent. I dont watch every Mav game here in DFW ... but I have seen him a bunch and he still almost prime Parker quick but has become a better ball player.

What's your level of concern that the Lakers will whiff on their primary FA targets this summer and then offer Rondo something like 4yrs/60M?

[SPM]

Only morons would say Cubes would take Rondo over Ellis.

Ellis is literally one of few guys that no one can shut down guarding him 1-on-1. He has impressed me quite a bit, as I was skeptical of their initial pick-up of him, but after seeing nearly every game he has played in as a Maverick, I have yet to see someone accomplish that, or even find a way to consistently stop him from getting off shots he is very comfortable with and can make with consistency. Now when you send timely doubles at him, he can struggle a bit more because of his size, but overall, for his size, he is as good of an offensive player as anyone else in the league. Add to it, he is highly clutch, doesn't get rattled mentally, and never gives up no matter what the situation is. He's a lot better than I had imagined him being (although I'm sure having Carlisle and Dirk helped him immensely), and really is one of the more underrated players in the league, even despite his inconsistent defense.

So much wrong here.

[sook]

Parsons is the key though. He is the glue of the team.

I wouldn't say he's exactly the glue, but you're right he is the x-factor and needs a bigger role (from what I saw yesterday).


Only morons would say Cubes would take Rondo over Ellis.

Ellis is literally one of few guys that no one can shut down guarding him 1-on-1. He has impressed me quite a bit, as I was skeptical of their initial pick-up of him, but after seeing nearly every game he has played in as a Maverick, I have yet to see someone accomplish that, or even find a way to consistently stop him from getting off shots he is very comfortable with and can make with consistency. Now when you send timely doubles at him, he can struggle a bit more because of his size, but overall, for his size, he is as good of an offensive player as anyone else in the league. Add to it, he is highly clutch, doesn't get rattled mentally, and never gives up no matter what the situation is. He's a lot better than I had imagined him being (although I'm sure having Carlisle and Dirk helped him immensely), and really is one of the more underrated players in the league, even despite his inconsistent defense.
Its really not even a question. Ellis plays some phenomenal ball...Rondo is the other extreme. The two aren't even worth mentioning in the same sentence right now.

[sook]

So much wrong here.
trying to get people to notice your scrubass posts :lol

[Phillip]

So much wrong here.

Prove it.

What makes Rondo so indispensable for this team?

[Cry Havoc]

Prove it.

What makes Rondo so indispensable for this team?

Yeah, I can't believe Dallas fucked with the team they had. I thought getting Tyson would have sated their lust for new players. Rondo was a sidegrade at best.

[mavsfan1000]

Yeah, I can't believe Dallas fucked with the team they had. I thought getting Tyson would have sated their lust for new players. Rondo was a sidegrade at best.
Yep I'm still pissed about it. It's right up there with the Walker trade.

[Franklin]

Trade Rondo to LA for Nash and some picks imho. Nash used to be a fan favorite in Dallas and he's still ringless, so maybe he still wants to ball a bit here in an attempt to get a ring before retiring, and Lakers' picks are reasonably valuable since they're likely tied to mediocrity for many years to come.