Damn sons, legendary fighter Anderson Silva tests positive for steroid use

[Thebesteva]

I guess it's true, everyone does it, it's a matter of if they get caught or not.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/2/3/7974585/anderson-silva-tests-positive-for-anabolic-steroid-metabolites-in-jan

[Malik Hairston]

Can't compete in pro sports without PEDs, tbh..it's just a matter of:

1. How well you hide it
2. Whether the higher-ups are targeting you or not, for whatever reason(maybe you're finished as a top-level guy)
3. Snitches
4. How much you abuse it
5. Your style of play

[Thebesteva]

Can't compete in pro sports without PEDs, tbh..it's just a matter of:

1. How well you hide it
2. Whether the higher-ups are targeting you or not, for whatever reason(maybe you're finished as a top-level guy)
3. Snitches
4. How much you abuse it
5. Your style of play

This is a solid point, but here's my question, why haven't guys like Lebron or Kobe been busted for it yet? Obviously, the powers to be dont want anyone to find out right?

The only reason boxers, football players, and MMA fighters get caught is theres a 3rd party that does the testing.

[baseline bum]

I guess it's true, everyone does it, it's a matter of if they get caught or not.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/2/3/7974585/anderson-silva-tests-positive-for-anabolic-steroid-metabolites-in-jan

Was that the gay guy who fought Tyson and ended up with HIV?

[Malik Hairston]

People have the silly perception that basketball players don't need to use PEDs, tbh..it's far less egregious than in power-reliant sports like fighting, Baseball and Football..

There's also the perception that you can't be on PEDs if you aren't completely ripped like Karl Malone or Lebron:lol..most basketball players don't have impressive physiques, and the average basketball fan isn't knowledgeable enough about bodybuilding/PEDs to understand the potential advantages..

The NFL is much worse, though..I think everybody is aware that virtually every non-QB in the NFL takes PEDs, but it's just accepted because of the barbaric nature of the sport..even with all the "Adderall" results(which is an NFL synonym for PEDs), everybody still watches football and doesn't give a shit, myself included..

[Malik Hairston]

PED controversies are really stupid, though, especially in baseball..

It's a fairly even playing field, most of these guys know which one of their peers is taking shit..it's just a matter of who the media and fans want to target, particularly in baseball..

Barry Bonds began taking steroids because he saw the hype that McGuire and Sosa were generating, the league was celebrating them..Bonds generated a ton of hype for their league, and now they won't let him in the HOF, ignoring that the majority of players in that era were on PEDs and it was a fairly even playing field:lol..it's full of hypocrisy and stupidity..

[weebo]

People have the silly perception that basketball players don't need to use PEDs, tbh..it's far less egregious than in power-reliant sports like fighting, Baseball and Football..

There's also the perception that you can't be on PEDs if you aren't completely ripped like Karl Malone or Lebron:lol..most basketball players don't have impressive physiques, and the average basketball fan isn't knowledgeable enough about bodybuilding/PEDs to understand the potential advantages..

The NFL is much worse, though..I think everybody is aware that virtually every non-QB in the NFL takes PEDs, but it's just accepted because of the barbaric nature of the sport..even with all the "Adderall" results(which is an NFL synonym for PEDs), everybody still watches football and doesn't give a shit, myself included..

I don't have any misconceptions about PED usage among professional athletes, and I hardly believe most knowledgable sports fan either. I think it's pretty much a given that these athletes pump their asses full of juice. In fact, I hope all the athletes on my favorite sports teams are shooting up.

[100%duncan]

Who cares, he's shit anyway. Fucking boring fight.

[Malik Hairston]

There was one of those "NBA Open Court" specials on NBA TV where Steve Kerr opened up about how they used to take forms of pills to recover from injuries all the time, essentially PEDs IIRC(I'd have to see the clip again), it was viewed as acceptable back then:lol..

[Malik Hairston]

I don't have any misconceptions about PED usage among professional athletes, and I hardly believe most knowledgable sports fan either. I think it's pretty much a given that these athletes pump their asses full of juice. In fact, I hope all the athletes on my favorite sports teams are shooting up.

I always hear NBA fans defending NBA players, tbh..Lebron is probably the only NBA player that has the stigma around him, and that's simply because of his body type/style IMO..

[Thebesteva]

A lot of Silva fans defending him on Sherdog, saying steroids dont build skill. Whoever thinks steroids arent a game changer in strength has never done a cycle of deca :lol

[FlAVaK]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/anderson-silva--nick-diaz-both-fail-drug-screens-020257874.html

"Anderson Silva, Nick Diaz both fail UFC 183 drug screens
...
Silva, the legendary ex-UFC middleweight champion who is widely regarded as the greatest mixed martial arts fighter in history, tested positive for two anabolic steroids, drostanolone and androstane. For the third time in his career, Diaz had elevated levels of marijuana metabolites in his system. Even more stunning news about Silva is that the drostanolone and androstane were discovered as part of an out-of-competition test given by the Nevada Athletic Commission on Jan. 9.
..."

[coachmac87]

PED's should be legal in all sports....it's an entertaining business..increases performance and recovery...better and consistent exciting product....oh and how come the "shots" people take before games?? Performance Enchancer?

[Thebesteva]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/anderson-silva--nick-diaz-both-fail-drug-screens-020257874.html

"Anderson Silva, Nick Diaz both fail UFC 183 drug screens
...
Silva, the legendary ex-UFC middleweight champion who is widely regarded as the greatest mixed martial arts fighter in history, tested positive for two anabolic steroids, drostanolone and androstane. For the third time in his career, Diaz had elevated levels of marijuana metabolites in his system. Even more stunning news about Silva is that the drostanolone and androstane were discovered as part of an out-of-competition test given by the Nevada Athletic Commission on Jan. 9.
..."

Diaz was just for weed though

[RD2191]

Any player or fighter who uses ped's is trash in my book.

[FlAVaK]

Diaz was just for weed though


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/anderson-silva--nick-diaz-both-fail-drug-screens-020257874.html

"Anderson Silva, Nick Diaz both fail UFC 183 drug screens
...
Silva, the legendary ex-UFC middleweight champion who is widely regarded as the greatest mixed martial arts fighter in history, tested positive for two anabolic steroids, drostanolone and androstane. For the third time in his career, Diaz had elevated levels of marijuana metabolites in his system. Even more stunning news about Silva is that the drostanolone and androstane were discovered as part of an out-of-competition test given by the Nevada Athletic Commission on Jan. 9.
..."

I know :hat

[InRareForm]

from: http://www.villanovau.com/resources/bls/ped-use-in-sports/#.VNGkbC478-g

Anti-Doping Policies in Major Organizations

Many sports associations are now involved in monitoring and testing players for banned PED use. Currently, the NBA, NFL, and MLB all have anti-doping programs.

The NBA began drug testing in 1983. They now screen for over 100 banned substances. Tests are limited to what can be found in a urine sample, which makes some drugs difficult to detect. Players can be tested up to six times a year, and twice during the off season. Since there is no investigative division of the NBA, any leads concerning drug use by athletes are taken very seriously, but are difficult to pursue.

The NBA does not test for HGH, however discussions in 2013 indicated a blood test for HGH may soon be added to the NBA anti-doping program.

The NFL began drug testing in 1987 and relies on urine samples to find PED users. Blood testing for HGH began in 2014. Tests are frequent, with 10 players selected at random from each team every week.

[Thebesteva]

It's on ESPN Front Page

"Silva busted for Steroids"

http://media3.giphy.com/media/aBooMpl2faiHK/200_s.gif

[Arcadian]

There was one of those "NBA Open Court" specials on NBA TV where Steve Kerr opened up about how they used to take forms of pills to recover from injuries all the time, essentially PEDs IIRC(I'd have to see the clip again), it was viewed as acceptable back then:lol..

Here is a relevant question (and I really would like to know the answer): Do most of these "PEDs" actually enhance one's performance over baseline, or do they simply allow one to recover from injuries/pain/wear-and-tear more efficiently?

To me, that is an extremely important distinction. I would need to know the actual physiological mechanism of the substance, what it is literally doing to the athlete's body, in order to form an opinion on it.

[313]

There was one of those "NBA Open Court" specials on NBA TV where Steve Kerr opened up about how they used to take forms of pills to recover from injuries all the time, essentially PEDs IIRC(I'd have to see the clip again), it was viewed as acceptable back then:lol..

I saw that episode too. Isaiah Thomas also talked about it, and even said that it was banned now because it's a PED.

[Thebesteva]

Here is a relevant question (and I really would like to know the answer): Do most of these "PEDs" actually enhance one's performance over baseline, or do they simply allow one to recover from injuries/pain/wear-and-tear more efficiently?

To me, that is an extremely important distinction. I would need to know the actual physiological mechanism of the substance, what it is literally doing to the athlete's body, in order to form an opinion on it.

Put it to you like this, a buddy of mine did steroids and could only at best lift 45 lb curls with each arm. During his cycle, he would comfortably curl with 100 lb curls and said he felt like he wants to do more but was warned not to so he doesnt hurt himself. The moment he got off, he could barely do 45 again. It's a monsterous game changer.

[313]

Put it to you like this, a buddy of mine did steroids and could only at best lift 45 lb curls with each arm. During his cycle, he would comfortably curl with 100 lb curls and said he felt like he wants to do more but was warned not to so he doesnt hurt himself. The moment he got off, he could barely do 45 again. It's a monsterous game changer.so what you're saying is that a certain nba player that relies on his monstrous strength and athleticism to finish at the rim, would see a huge drop off If he suddenly got off the cycle? Hmm

[ezau]

A lot of Silva fans defending him on Sherdog, saying steroids dont build skill. Whoever thinks steroids arent a game changer in strength has never done a cycle of deca :lol

Sad to see Silva, who is arguably MMA's GOAT, to go down like this. He should've called it a career when he broke his leg in the Weidman fight.

[sook]

Sonnen :cry pls come back now

[Thebesteva]

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[sook]

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the fan in me would like to say...who gives a crap honestly? Makes it a lot better to watch. Would do the WNBA some good to start roiding up too :lol

[Infinite_limit]

Smart move on his part

- Fight clean, lose and people label his career over
- Fight dirty, win and he'll surely get another top paper view shot

[Stalin]

What a shock, pussy overhyped Silva was pumping roids, I guess fighting two weight classes below his natural weight wasn't enough of an advantage. Emelianenko > Silva

[Sean Cagney]

Any player or fighter who uses ped's is trash in my book.

And there probably is A WHOLE lot of them.

[Thebesteva]

What a shock, pussy overhyped Silva was pumping roids, I guess fighting two weight classes below his natural weight wasn't enough of an advantage. Emelianenko > Silva

Been saying Fedor>Silva for years, but people kept saying Silva is GOAT as long as his streak was alive. Ah how the mighty have fallen, Mayweather is next

[Thebesteva]

http://110.imagebam.com/download/hUoZwhfbf7s4XkcCABPMzA/38706/387051190/drugwars.png

[Malik Hairston]

Here is a relevant question (and I really would like to know the answer): Do most of these "PEDs" actually enhance one's performance over baseline, or do they simply allow one to recover from injuries/pain/wear-and-tear more efficiently?

To me, that is an extremely important distinction. I would need to know the actual physiological mechanism of the substance, what it is literally doing to the athlete's body, in order to form an opinion on it.

Well,

1- They accelerate recovery time from injuries, and also recovery time after a tough day of lifting..

The average body can only effectively lift weights a certain amount of times per week without over-doing it and wearing out your muscles, etc..a testosterone/HGH/PED user can go through a vigorous workout, and won't be too sore to hit the same muscles at the same volume in the same week, for example..

Having the ability to increase the volume in effective and efficient workout days is huge..

2. Natural bodybuilders generally choose between cycles of bulking/cutting, where you don't build extra mass while cutting, and you're going to naturally lose muscle as you lose weight..steroid users don't feel the same effects, they are able to cut weight, while keeping/adding muscle mass, which is huge for NBA/NFL skill players/Track athletes/Olympic athletes

3. The natural increase in strength..people have the misconception that taking steroids/HGH/PEDs means that you're going to have a bodybuilder/bulky physique, but that's entirely based on your preference..

Basketball players can follow the same training routines as usual: squats, deads, lunges, box jumps, donkeys, slalom jumps, split squats, hip extensions, snatch grips, etc..if you do the same strength/plyo routines you've always done, but you're able to do them with a substantial increase in weight from the strength you've gained from PED use, you're going to see a huge increase in your running/jumping/lateral quickness ability, and even your flexibility..

Track athletes may be the best example..those niggas have the most aesthetic physiques in sports IMO, and everybody knows all the PED talk surrounding track in the past 30 years:lol..

[Malik Hairston]

I do believe it's much less important in the NBA, though, as it requires much more skill than playing in the NFL, and power-hitting or power-pitching in baseball..

A skinny-ass basketball player like Kevin Durant or Anthony Davis can still dominate in the league, despite having weak-ass physiques:lol..

I am skeptical of older NBA players that are still able to perform, though..

NFL players, track stars, power-hitters and power-pitchers in the MLB(obviously actually hitting a baseball or locating a pitch takes extreme skill, though), Olympic athletes and fighters are all much more reliant on physical prowess than NBA players, but when you see players like Westbrook, you understand the effects of PEDs in basketball:lol..

[SupremeGuy]

http://110.imagebam.com/download/hUoZwhfbf7s4XkcCABPMzA/38706/387051190/drugwars.png:rollin

[DD]

Lol legendary

[Cry Havoc]

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Pretty much this right here. I'm not a Silva fan by any means, but the ridiculous response about people being all shocked is just laughable.

[SupremeGuy]

The only time people ever bust out the old :cry but everyone else is doing it and I say this without any shred of evidence :cry excuse is when their fighter gets popped, tbh.

There's a chapter on it in this book:

http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/55edbcaefce18efb16d30b52401d29f4.jpg

Is normal.

[Brazil]

I wish Parker did not stop taking PED tbh...