Better Call Saul - almost forgot

[~O~]

Walking Dead and Better Call Saul are two dynamically different shows. I love them both.

[SpursforSix]

Less than a month. April 10.

[JMarkJohns]

I'm rewatching BB and BCS to get ready.

[UZER]

Love me some BCS but slippin Jimmy and Mike are getting old. They can't drag this thing on forever.

Still don't know whether exactly they are in the timeline in relation to BB. I know it's before, but he far back are they?

[spurraider21]

Love me some BCS but slippin Jimmy and Mike are getting old. They can't drag this thing on forever.

Still don't know whether exactly they are in the timeline in relation to BB. I know it's before, but he far back are they?
Iirc it's around 2002 or so?

[Xevious]

First episode was pretty uneventful. Mike's storyline is obviously building up to Gus. Jimmy is more of the same. Chuck's master plan to screw him over may lead to him taking on the Saul persona?

I do wonder where the black and white post-BB scenes are going, other than to show how miserable Jimmy/Saul/Gene is.

[SpursforSix]

First episode was pretty uneventful. Mike's storyline is obviously building up to Gus. Jimmy is more of the same. Chuck's master plan to screw him over may lead to him taking on the Saul persona?

I do wonder where the black and white post-BB scenes are going, other than to show how miserable Jimmy/Saul/Gene is.


Yeah...kind of slow but not bad. I was glad the replayed some of last seasons scenes to remind me of what was going on.

[Blake]

Slow but I liked it. The fat dork with the hummer is amusing

[InRareForm]

Great 2nd episode.

Gus made a mistake of letting Jimmy try to see what was going on in the fast food place. He made it way too obvious

[SpursforSix]

Great 2nd episode.

Gus made a mistake of letting Jimmy try to see what was going on in the fast food place. He made it way too obvious

Maybe but we don't know how it'll play out. Gus recognized something was up.

[spurraider21]

:lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JybVelOEAtc&feature=youtu.be

[SpursforSix]

Very good third episode. Although I thought the sniper shoe trick was a little unbelievable. Not sure why they couldn't have just had someone call DEA/Customs with a tip on that truck.
But such a great show, it's easy to forgive.

[unleashbaynes]

Holy shit, Michael McKean is an amazing actor. What a scene where he freaks out on the stand.

[Xevious]

I agree awesome scene.

[UZER]

Holy shit, Michael McKean is an amazing actor. What a scene where he freaks out on the stand.

I've been saying the same thing! Dude is killing this role. He makes you believe Chuck McGill believes he is sick, and that he hates his brother but really loves him and knows what's best for him but really just can't stand him. Amazing acting job.

[Spurtacular]

BCS may be the best spin-off of all-time, tbh.

[Capt Bringdown]

I thought it predictable that Chuck would have a Captain Queeg-esque meltdown on the stand. But still the best show on TV, IMO.

[SpursforSix]

BCS may be the best spin-off of all-time, tbh.

I couldn't think of anything close. Even looked up "best spinoffs". Nothing comes close. Would love to see him do the same thing with Frain or even better, Mike... but it'll get harder as these actors all age. Impossible with Mike unless you bring in another actor for young Mike.

[UZER]

I thought it predictable that Chuck would have a Captain Queeg-esque meltdown on the stand. But still the best show on TV, IMO.

One of my favorite scenes ever in movie or show is the final courtroom scene of a Few Good Men. This felt like it would go down the same path from the beginning. It wasn't a carbon copy, but they ended up at the same point.

Still, it was a great scene.

[spurraider21]

painfully slow episode today, but at least we get saul

[Xevious]

How many characters can we cram into one episode that Walt ends up killing?

[Xevious]

How many characters can we cram into one episode that Walt ends up killing?
More on that point, I'm not really sure how I feel about all the fan service that this season especially is throwing at us. That scene with Gus and Lydia at the laundry serves no purpose. Mike wasn't involved, and more importantly Jimmy/Saul is not privy to the drug business until we're deep into Breaking Bad.

[SpursforSix]

More on that point, I'm not really sure how I feel about all the fan service that this season especially is throwing at us. That scene with Gus and Lydia at the laundry serves no purpose. Mike wasn't involved, and more importantly Jimmy/Saul is not privy to the drug business until we're deep into Breaking Bad.

I think it's premature to say that. If it has something to do with Gus, then it easily could connect to Mike. And by extension, Saul. Whether or not Saul has anything to do directly with the drugs. The writing through BB and two+ seasons of BCS has been excellent. No reason to doubt that it will continue and everything will tie in. Although that was the weakest episode of the season, and maybe series.

And presumably, all the BCS watchers are BB fans. So at the least, they're providing some answers and background to Breaking Bad.

[Xevious]

And presumably, all the BCS watchers are BB fans. So at the least, they're providing some answers and background to Breaking Bad.
That's fine as long as it fits in the story and is done organically. I just don't want them to wink at fans just for the sake of doing it.

[SpursforSix]

That's fine as long as it fits in the story and is done organically. I just don't want them to wink at fans just for the sake of doing it.

Oh yeah...totally. I'd cringe if there was some scene where Skylar bumps into Saul at the grocery store.

That being said, I wouldn't be surprised for Walt to make an unnecessary cameo.

[Xevious]

That being said, I wouldn't be surprised for Walt to make an unnecessary cameo.
Oh I'm fully expecting them to end the series with Saul's first meeting with Walt and Jesse. Whether we actually see them or not is not a given though.

[spurraider21]

Oh I'm fully expecting them to end the series with Saul's first meeting with Walt and Jesse. Whether we actually see them or not is not a given though.
Or end with him leaving to go to the police station to talk to brandon mayhew

[Monostradamus]

More on that point, I'm not really sure how I feel about all the fan service that this season especially is throwing at us. That scene with Gus and Lydia at the laundry serves no purpose. Mike wasn't involved, and more importantly Jimmy/Saul is not privy to the drug business until we're deep into Breaking Bad.

They could very well be setting up a story about the Gus/Lydia/Madrigal connection. At some point Gus is going to break away from the cartel.

[DD]

What the fuck are they doing skipping a week? Fargo better not pull the same shit this week

[Spur|n|Austin]

This show just keeps getting better and better; the acting, script, storyline, cinematography - all good.

[spurraider21]

thought last 2 episodes slowed down a bit too much. idgaf about mike applying a concrete pavement in a park, and the whole commercial sales saga got old quick

[Spur|n|Austin]

thought last 2 episodes slowed down a bit too much. idgaf about mike applying a concrete pavement in a park, and the whole commercial sales saga got old quick

The Mike pavement scene was showing the opposite side of the dark rabbit hole he's about to go down. The commercial sales showed Jimmy getting beat down, enough to where he finally stopped GAF and became set on ruining his brother and his venture into It's All Good Man.

[UZER]

The Mike pavement scene was showing the opposite side of the dark rabbit hole he's about to go down. The commercial sales showed Jimmy getting beat down, enough to where he finally stopped GAF and became set on ruining his brother and his venture into It's All Good Man.

Yeah, it's showing his struggle to scrape by and keep up with his half of the rent. This is pushing him down the "easy" path.

[SpursforSix]

Yeah, it's showing his struggle to scrape by and keep up with his half of the rent. This is pushing him down the "easy" path.

My theory is that since they wouldn't cancel his malpractice, he's going to get one of his old clients to sue him for a shit load of money and split it with them. Which will lead to his permanent disbarment. And he'll have to practice as Saul.

[baseline bum]

My theory is that since they wouldn't cancel his malpractice, he's going to get one of his old clients to sue him for a shit load of money and split it with them. Which will lead to his permanent disbarment. And he'll have to practice as Saul.

Interesting thought. Maybe to really get back at Chuck he gets one of the people from the nursing home case he turned over to HHM to do it. That time when he was recruiting everyone on the bus in front of that casino in Texas was illegal as fuck.

[vander]

I definitely like this show better when it's doing it's own thing and not tying itself to Breaking Bad. Show got worse when Gus and all the cartel shit showed up, seen that already, don't care.

[DD]

Kim Wexler and/or Chuck is going to die

[UZER]

My theory is that since they wouldn't cancel his malpractice, he's going to get one of his old clients to sue him for a shit load of money and split it with them. Which will lead to his permanent disbarment. And he'll have to practice as Saul.

I think the name change will have more to do with feeling guilty about fucking chuck over so bad, that he doesn't want to ruin the family name and decides to move forward with Saul. As much as he hates what Chuck did to him, he has cared for him all these years even with him being a prick.

[DeadlyDynasty]

meh episode...setting up for Nacho's showdown

[SpursforSix]

meh episode...setting up for Nacho's showdown

Yeah...it was OK. It's still seems like the fastest 40 minutes ever though. Wish they were a full hour of content.

Thought it was kind of ridiculous how Nacho decided to get the pills into the coat pocket. Seems like an awful lot of risk there.

[spurraider21]

shows been really dragging for a few episodes now... c'mon gilligan

[JMarkJohns]

All you complaining, did you expect shit to devolve in a matter of an episode? That Jimmy would become Saul within a week?

The point of last week was the mundane and discouragement.

That set up this week's episode with his desperate.

Kim has her finger on the nuke button.

She's not taking this new client for any other reason than it's her legit client, free and clear of Jimmy and the guilt of knowing what he did and how far she went to protect him.

Jimmy has already gone nuclear and is ready to tear this mother fucker down.

And Hamlin would like to rip heads off and shit into their dead skulls.

And that's not including anything boiling over with Nacho and Mike.

You all are missing the brilliance of mundane at best.

It's telling us every truth the exciting episodes talk past.

[SpursforSix]

Really enjoyed the last episode. Each of the storylines moved along and was interesting. Jimmy, Kim, Chuck, Gus, and Mike. Got a lot done in 40 minutes.

[InRareForm]

Really enjoyed the last episode. Each of the storylines moved along and was interesting. Jimmy, Kim, Chuck, Gus, and Mike. Got a lot done in 40 minutes.

agreed. Nothing spectacular happened, but I still enjoyed the episode. The characters really showed their glaring traits that episode.

[baseline bum]

How the hell did Howard think he was going to kick Chuck out of the firm?

[SpursforSix]

How the hell did Howard think he was going to kick Chuck out of the firm?

Don't know.

But do we all agree that Jimmy isn't going to get his $1.2 million?

[JMarkJohns]

Jimmy already has money, no?

What I took was Jimmy screwing everyone for his own gain also gives HHM the nest egg to buyout Chuck, who likely sues for damages.

This episode showed the beginnings of why we never heard of HHM in Breaking Bad, and why we never heard of Kim in Breaking Bad. A trainwreck is coming.

[SpursforSix]

Jimmy already has money, no?

What I took was Jimmy screwing everyone for his own gain also gives HHM the nest egg to buyout Chuck, who likely sues for damages.

This episode showed the beginnings of why we never heard of HHM in Breaking Bad, and why we never heard of Kim in Breaking Bad. A trainwreck is coming.

Jimmy is close to broke right now. I'm not sure he gets ahead until he becomes Saul. There's not doubt about the trainwreck though.

[JMarkJohns]

This last episode he wanted to celebrate with Kim about the settlement.

He had that $100 a shot tequila with him.

He has money.

[baseline bum]

This last episode he wanted to celebrate with Kim about the settlement.

He had that $100 a shot tequila with him.

He has money.

You sure he didn't just put it on a credit card assuming his payday was near?

[JMarkJohns]

You sure he didn't just put it on a credit card assuming his payday was near?

The way he was taking about all our problems being solved didn't make it seem that way. But Jimmy is reckless.

He'd have an ironclad suit vs HHM should they or D&M dick around with his money.

I took that episode as Jimmy getting his and inadvertently handing Hamlin the buyout for Chuck, subsequently screwing over his older brother. Who then has the resources to battle the shit out of his suit with HHM.

[baseline bum]

The way he was taking about all our problems being solved didn't make it seem that way. But Jimmy is reckless.

He'd have an ironclad suit vs HHM should they or D&M dick around with his money.

I took that episode as Jimmy getting his and inadvertently handing Hamlin the buyout for Chuck, subsequently screwing over his older brother. Who then has the resources to battle the shit out of his suit with HHM.

I hope you're right, that would be awesome. I could easily see Jimmy pissing away his $1.2 million in a few months. I wonder how Kim goes down though.

[SpursforSix]

This last episode he wanted to celebrate with Kim about the settlement.

He had that $100 a shot tequila with him.

He has money.

I don't think so. He was struggling to even pay his video crew not that long ago and was stressing about losing the money for the tv ads. And behind on his rent until he got the ads sold.
Like baseline said, I think the tequila was on a credit card and with the expectation of getting over a million dollars.

[resistanze]

Jimmy is such a piece of shit, like his brother :lol

[baseline bum]

Jimmy is such a piece of shit, like his brother :lol

I think Chuck has good reason to sue here tbh. Chuck is an ass, but I understand it with how sleazy Jimmy is. I wouldn't have hired him either in my firm, as talented as Jimmy is.

[resistanze]

I think Chuck has good reason to sue here tbh. Chuck is an ass, but I understand it with how sleazy Jimmy is. I wouldn't have hired him either in my firm, as talented as Jimmy is.

It's funny as people seem to immediately hate Chuck and like Jimmy, but it's clear Jimmy was a slimy, conning piece of shit from day 1. He took care of his asshole brother just like Chuck took care of Jimmy out of prison and got him a job. Chuck probably helped Jimmy as much for his own ego as Jimmy helped Chuck for an easy way into law. Chuck biggest's blunder was not having the balls to tell Jimmy to fuck off with his request to join the firm, and instead making Howard do his dirty work.

[spurraider21]

It's funny as people seem to immediately hate Chuck and like Jimmy, but it's clear Jimmy was a slimy, conning piece of shit from day 1. He took care of his asshole brother just like Chuck took care of Jimmy out of prison and got him a job. Chuck probably helped Jimmy as much for his own ego as Jimmy helped Chuck for an easy way into law. Chuck biggest's blunder was not having the balls to tell Jimmy to fuck off with his request to join the firm, and instead making Howard do his dirty work.
They're both slimeballs, but Chuck directed his douchebaggery at Jimmy initially. Jimmy was an asshole to the outside world, but never to Chuck (until the events of BCS)

[JMarkJohns]

I don't think so. He was struggling to even pay his video crew not that long ago and was stressing about losing the money for the tv ads. And behind on his rent until he got the ads sold.
Like baseline said, I think the tequila was on a credit card and with the expectation of getting over a million dollars.

Yes, two episodes he was poor. One episode ago he staged an injury and threatened lawsuit. This episode he manipulated the shit out of a bunch of old broads into settling to get his contracted amount in a lump-sum fashion.

Lawyers get paid from the common fund, as I recall.

I believe Jimmy has money. Maybe not all of it, but much of it.

Jimmy isn't bad with money. The show has presented him as actually pretty good with it. Didn't live beyond means when poor.

Only times we ever saw him celebrating was when he had money or could hustle moneys

So, I believe he has money.

[resistanze]

They're both slimeballs, but Chuck directed his douchebaggery at Jimmy initially. Jimmy was an asshole to the outside world, but never to Chuck (until the events of BCS)

I feel their childhood really pisses off Chuck, beyond simply being jealous of the attention tbh. Jimmy saw his dad for a sucker and didn't really respect him. He took advantage of his parents, something that probably stuck with Chuck, at least that's how I see it. Plus, even if he was nice to his brother, his still has no issue conning dozens of innocent people for his personal gain, so besides being 'charismatic' I'm not sure what makes Jimmy any likable than Chuck.

[spurraider21]

I feel their childhood really pisses off Chuck, beyond simply being jealous of the attention tbh. Jimmy saw his dad for a sucker and didn't really respect him. He took advantage of his parents, something that probably stuck with Chuck, at least that's how I see it. Plus, even if he was nice to his brother, his still has no issue conning dozens of innocent people for his personal gain, so besides being 'charismatic' I'm not sure what makes Jimmy any likable than Chuck.
who'd you rather have as a friend? if you were in trouble, which would you be able to count on in a tough spot?

[baseline bum]

who'd you rather have as a friend? if you were in trouble, which would you be able to count on in a tough spot?

Chuck easily. He bailed Jimmy out and gave him a steady job at his firm. How much more help are you going to get than that from someone? Jimmy would probably get me murdered in some scam like he almost did those skateboard fucks.

[baseline bum]

So I must be the only person in the world who likes both Chuck and Skylar. :lol

[spurraider21]

So I must be the only person in the world who likes both Chuck and Skylar. :lol
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[JMarkJohns]

who'd you rather have as a friend? if you were in trouble, which would you be able to count on in a tough spot?

Chuck is an asshole, but he's typically an asshole for the right reasons.

Those people suck, but only because you can't manipulate them.

People like Jimmy are a firms nightmare.

People are literally actively rooting for a guy we like now because he's slick, but we've seen this good man/bad person sort of character manufacture evidence, steal evidence, manipulate evidence, manipulate the law for his own gain, manipulate people for own gain, and cost everyone else everything.

We forget Jimmy, while taking care of his brother, was pushing for HHM to buy him out. It was a meal ticket caring.

Was there legitimate bonds? Sure.

Didn't stop him from screwing him over.

Jimmy is exactly as Chuck says: a chimpanzee with a machine gun. It's funny to watch until your the one shot.

[baseline bum]

Jimmy is exactly as Chuck says: a chimpanzee with a machine gun. It's funny to watch until your the one shot.

Did he say that in the disbarment trial? I must have missed that line. :lol

[JMarkJohns]

Chuck says it to Jimmy when confronted with why Chuck blocked him from getting a lawyer gig at HHM.

[resistanze]

who'd you rather have as a friend? if you were in trouble, which would you be able to count on in a tough spot?

Definitely Chuck man, he bailed Jimmy out of prison :lol

Jimmy would get you in knee-deep of shit while helping you since he probably hustled/committed a crime to 'help' you anyways. And what if you're not a friend of Jimmy, like 99.99% of the population? To Jimmy, you're a potential mark, tbh

[resistanze]

So I must be the only person in the world who likes both Chuck and Skylar. :lol

I almost called it the 'Walter White' syndrome when describing Jimmy to your earlier. I stopped rooting for Walt by the end of season 1, but I remember him having this huge following that rationalized everything he did. I wasn't a huge fan of Skylar, but she was much more of a sympathetic character than Walt. People probably hated her for having bitch-face tbh.

[spurraider21]

Well I don't think people rooted for Walt because they liked him... it was more of an excitement factor to see "how the fuck is he getting out of this clusterfuck" and wanting to keep enjoying the ride of the show.

It's impossible to watch BB and not constantly mumble "what an asshole" after every other WW scene

[baseline bum]

I almost called it the 'Walter White' syndrome when describing Jimmy to your earlier. I stopped rooting for Walt by the end of season 1, but I remember him having this huge following that rationalized everything he did. I wasn't a huge fan of Skylar, but she was much more of a sympathetic character than Walt. People probably hated her for having bitch-face tbh.

It's like fuck Skylar for not being a subservient dog to Walt. She catches him in obvious lies and she's supposed to just play along? I mean the only time in the series I thought she was being annoying was when she nagged him in the first episode about how we don't use the Master Card.

[JMarkJohns]

I think most people hated Skylar because of IFT when Walt had Cancer.

To many, that immorality to break up a family was worse than Walt's immorality to save his.

She was sympathetic op to that point.

Unplanned Pregnant at middle age, basically poor, husband has terminal cancer, then new mom (again) who has to work to help with bills.

Then IFT and she's a total bitch.

[spurraider21]

It's like fuck Skylar for not being a subservient dog to Walt. She catches him in obvious lies and she's supposed to just play along? I mean the only time in the series I thought she was being annoying was when she nagged him in the first episode about how we don't use the Master Card.she half played along. always being passive aggressive because she was too weak to make a stand one way or another.

also yeah, ift

[Spur|n|Austin]

So I must be the only person in the world who likes both Chuck and Skylar. :lol

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[baseline bum]

she half played along. always being passive aggressive because she was too weak to make a stand one way or another.

also yeah, ift

She played along in the end, but she was one of the main victims the first 3-4 seasons. Also LOL at people complaining about her fucking Ted. Is she supposed to leave her kids alone with Walt? He wasn't going to let her have them and Walt was essentially holding her hostage. Cucking him is the one thing she could do to get back at him other than going to the cops and losing her home in the best case.

[spurraider21]

She played along in the end, but she was one of the main victims the first 3-4 seasons. Also LOL at people complaining about her fucking Ted. Is she supposed to leave her kids alone with Walt? He wasn't going to let her have them and Walt was essentially holding her hostage. Cucking him is the one thing she could do to get back at him other than going to the cops and losing her home in the best case.
not like fucking ted accomplished anything to help the kids :lol

and she only started that after the incident where she called the police

[unleashbaynes]

So Chuck doesn't use his "disease" to manipulate people into doing what he wants? He's just as big of a piece of shit as Jimmy imo. The only characters that i legitimately like are Nacho, Kim, and Howard.

[Spur|n|Austin]

So Chuck doesn't use his "disease" to manipulate people into doing what he wants? He's just as big of a piece of shit as Jimmy imo. The only characters that i legitimately like are Nacho, Kim, and Howard.

I have a bad feeling about Kim's fate.

[unleashbaynes]

I should rephrase that. Kim and Howard are the only ones that i think are decent people.

I'm sympathetic towards Nacho and Mike. Gus is just badass.

[spurraider21]

does howard only own one shirt tbh?

[Spur|n|Austin]

does howard only own one shirt tbh?

Yeah but it's a power shirt!

[baseline bum]

Damn never expected Chuck to go out like that.

[JMarkJohns]

That was brutal. Didn't think I'd care, but the depth of his character and it's complexity wrung it out of me. I'm actually sad. That was this shows Jane scene.

[InRareForm]

damn that was a depressing ending. but well done season/series

[spurraider21]

that ending was heavy

but i'm not sad. jimmy told him he was going to die alone with nobody to care for him, and he pushed away the one person who tried to care despite everything. also can't blame the firm for doing what they did. not like howard would ever want to work with a partner who behaved like he did

[JMarkJohns]

He told Jimmy at the beginning that everything Jimmy touched is ruined.

Very true.

And then the episode methodically shows how everything/everyone Chuck touches is the same.

[JMarkJohns]

Kim, already literally broken, is gonna snap when she finds out Chuck committed suicide (or any of the details) and blame herself for the mental outing and use of his sickness as a defense for Jimmy, a man she knows is everything Chuck said he was as a lawyer.

She already had animosity toward Jimmy in preceding episodes.

This plus her career and injury issues, she's going to make Chuck look sane by the end.

[spurraider21]

no doubt... we already know this series is going to end as a shitstorm

[baseline bum]

I feel bad for Francesca. Look how much Jimmy tore her down by the time we got to Breaking Bad. She seems like a happy person in Better Call Saul. I'm interested to see her story arc next season.

[unleashbaynes]

that ending was heavy

but i'm not sad. jimmy told him he was going to die alone with nobody to care for him, and he pushed away the one person who tried to care despite everything. also can't blame the firm for doing what they did. not like howard would ever want to work with a partner who behaved like he did

The scene where Chuck picks up the lamp and tells howard, "see, i'm fine!", then howard responds with "this is not what 'fine' looks like" was awesome.

Then in the finale, Chuck's descent into madness over the electricity was amazingly done.

[UZER]

The scene where Chuck picks up the lamp and tells howard, "see, i'm fine!", then howard responds with "this is not what 'fine' looks like" was awesome.

Then in the finale, Chuck's descent into madness over the electricity was amazingly done.

He was like a drug addict in rehab that leaped back off the wagon.

[SpursforSix]

The scene where Chuck picks up the lamp and tells howard, "see, i'm fine!", then howard responds with "this is not what 'fine' looks like" was awesome.

Then in the finale, Chuck's descent into madness over the electricity was amazingly done.

I was almost expecting a reveal where whatever device was still running had something to do with Jimmy.

Did Jimmy install something when he was having the door rebuilt? Like a camera? I can't remember if that's how he got the pics of the house for the hearing.

[Xevious]

Then in the finale, Chuck's descent into madness over the electricity was amazingly done.
That scene was television brilliance.

[spurraider21]

Then in the finale, Chuck's descent into madness over the electricity was amazingly done.
yeah it was awesome.

also reminds me of RandomGuy in the political forum these days

[baseline bum]

yeah it was awesome.

also reminds me of RandomGuy in the political forum these days

Come on man, we were all there once the bitch lost Wisconsin that dark November 9th.

[Earl Sweatshirt]

She played along in the end, but she was one of the main victims the first 3-4 seasons. Also LOL at people complaining about her fucking Ted. Is she supposed to leave her kids alone with Walt? He wasn't going to let her have them and Walt was essentially holding her hostage. Cucking him is the one thing she could do to get back at him other than going to the cops and losing her home in the best case.
She was sympathetic until she went whole hog into it with Walt, then tries to act like she still has a conscience and still tries to play the victim. The melodramatic suicide attempt in the pool is when I lost all sympathy for that bitch tbh.

[JMarkJohns]

So a few predictions:

1. Kim gets addicted to the Good Stuff, deadenes the world, doesn't cope with guilt, and overdoses to some degree. Maybe not dead, but not alive in saul goodman's world.

2. Howard spent his fortune, plus took out loans, to payoff Chuck, who, if he cashed the check, maybe contributing to an unintentional dissolution of HHM of Howard was counting on Sandpiper money to pay off the loans. Not sure how this work. But it can't be a good thing.

3. I don't think we are far off from BB world, maybe even in the beginning of it. We already know they were purchasing the laundry poperty. That thing was pristine when Walt was brought in, and that was end of season 2. That said, we know Tuco must be on the scene first for their antics. Not sure how long he's still in prison, nor how long that super lab takes to build.

Most people I've talked to think we are two years away from Badger needing Saul to represent him, thus introducing the two worlds.

[baseline bum]

So a few predictions:
3. I don't think we are far off from BB world, maybe even in the beginning of it. We already know they were purchasing the laundry poperty. That thing was pristine when Walt was brought in, and that was end of season 2. That said, we know Tuco must be on the scene first for their antics. Not sure how long he's still in prison, nor how long that super lab takes to build.


We're still a ways away unless they do some major flash forwards. In last night's episode Kim mentioned it was the year 2003, so we still have more than four years time in that universe until Walt's ride-along with Hank, as BB characters talked about the 2008 financial crisis a few times.

[JMarkJohns]

That's a good catch. Not sure how I missed a detail like "2003".

[baseline bum]

That's a good catch. Not sure how I missed a detail like "2003".

I was just watching the episode again, and it was Jimmy who mentioned the year. After Hector's heart attack it cut to Kim with all her movies and Jimmy asked her "How is relax-a-thon 2003 coming along?"

[spurraider21]

damn video deleted

[monosylab1k]

Was Mike even in the finale? I'm getting bored with all the HHM/Kim stories and would rather see a lot more Mike/Gus/Nacho. Hopefully Chuck dying opens it up for that.

[SpursforSix]

Was Mike even in the finale? I'm getting bored with all the HHM/Kim stories and would rather see a lot more Mike/Gus/Nacho.


You should check out Breaking Bad.

[unleashbaynes]

Was Mike even in the finale? I'm getting bored with all the HHM/Kim stories and would rather see a lot more Mike/Gus/Nacho. Hopefully Chuck dying opens it up for that.

I want some fucking sleaze ass Saul Goodman tbh. We're 3 seasons in and he's still boring old Jimmy.

[spurraider21]

edit: damn video deleted
here, check it out

http://www.amc.com/shows/better-call-saul/video-extras/season-03/episode-00/better-call-saul-short-film-no-picnic

[baseline bum]

I want some fucking sleaze ass Saul Goodman tbh. We're 3 seasons in and he's still boring old Jimmy.

Changing 1216 to 1261 wasn't sleazy enough? What about all the scams in Chicago with his fat friend? Or the Kevin Costner thing? His time at Davis & Main? That billboard?

[unleashbaynes]

Changing 1216 to 1261 wasn't sleazy enough? What about all the scams in Chicago with his fat friend? Or the Kevin Costner thing? His time at Davis & Main? That billboard?

:lol this is true. He just hasn't become the dirtbag he was in BB yet. I think something is brewing with Kim, and once that bridge is burned he will go full Saul.

Also you forgot his slippin' Jimmy incident in the music shop. That was awesome.

[unleashbaynes]

And i think it's beautiful irony that Chuck could have prevented Jimmy from becoming Saul, but his own ego got in the way. He claimed to not want Jimmy at HHM because he didn't want the firm's reputation to take a hit, then when Howard offered him an out(in an effort to maintain HHM's reputation), he threatened a lawsuit.

[baseline bum]

:lol this is true. He just hasn't become the dirtbag he was in BB yet. I think something is brewing with Kim, and once that bridge is burned he will go full Saul.

Also you forgot his slippin' Jimmy incident in the music shop. That was awesome.

I think JMarkJohns is on to something with Kim getting addicted to the good stuff. But I hope she exits the series because Jimmy drove her away, not because she kills herself or her legal career.


And i think it's beautiful irony that Chuck could have prevented Jimmy from becoming Saul, but his own ego got in the way. He claimed to not want Jimmy at HHM because he didn't want the firm's reputation to take a hit, then when Howard offered him an out(in an effort to maintain HHM's reputation), he threatened a lawsuit.

Damn I didn't think of that. What awesome writing.

[spurraider21]

I think JMarkJohns (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1223) is on to something with Kim getting addicted to the good stuff. But I hope she exits the series because Jimmy drove her away, not because she kills herself or her legal career.
i hope it ends with her calling the vacuum repair guy tbh

[Xevious]

Something big is going to have to happen to drive Kim away. All this time she knows what a dirtbag Jimmy is and she's stuck by him.

[elbamba]

Substance abuse would make sense. Many attorneys struggle with various forms of addiction, especially when they are overworked.

[JMarkJohns]

Substance abuse would make sense. Many attorneys struggle with various forms of addiction, especially when they are overworked.

She is already an addict.

She smokes. She overworks herself. And she's participated in non-lawful benders as evidenced by her scams with Jimmy.

She didn't hesitate to request the "Good Stuff" when offered.

She's gonna lose it with Chuck, feeing directly responsible.

Odenkirk hinted there may be a realm in the BB world where Saul and Kim are a thing.

I don't see it. She's the only anchor that grounds him in lawful exploits. She's the final link. When she snaps Saul is truly born. Why Saul and not Jimmy? Maybe the Elder Law? Maybe Chuck stipulates "Jimmy McGill can't practice law" as a stipulation for inheritance?

Or maybe it's just a daily affirmation to himself when his entire fucking world crashes around his feet, mostly of his own doing.

As he looks in the mirror:

It's All Good, Man.
It's All Good, Man.
It's All Good, Man.

[monosylab1k]

Kim is definitely reading the "Skylar White Guide To Being Unlikable". She's been pretty complicit with everything Jimmy does, and will play the victim card whenever it best suits her.

[JMarkJohns]

Kim is definitely reading the "Skylar White Guide To Being Unlikable". She's been pretty complicit with everything Jimmy does, and will play the victim card whenever it best suits her.

Not sure the victim. I just don't think she's cut out for the consequences. To this point she's been the best written and most likeable female in the BB/BCS galaxy and it's not even close.

But that same eyes closed complicity has now resulted in some hands on consequences that can't be undone.

She was a straight arrow who liked her feathers ruffled. Now she's so far off course from her initial goals and the paths taken so damaging, I don't think she plays the martyr like Skylar at the end, but rather collectively loses grasp of herself over what she and her best intentions led to.

[Capt Bringdown]

I watched BB again, and I feel the weakest elements were Walter's wife and kid.
I kinda feel the same way about Kim. I reckon the writers of both BB & BCS have problems with female character/story arcs. I can't imagine too many viewers give a rat's ass about Skylar/Kim.
Great series, however. But only 10 episodes?
Glad to see they got renewed for next year.

[JMarkJohns]

You're wrong about Kim. Very wrong. Not only has she been an intriguing enabler/conscience for Jimmy, her own demons are very well and very likely tied to Jimmy's. The Squat Cobbler scene alone is almost perfect. Later on when she's subtlety dropping hints about how thorough that Chuck is... how Chuck never leaves t's uncrossed leading to the copy shop show down, she's intrinsic into the Jimmy yin/yang. The shifts back and forth from virtuous conscience (squat cobbler) to hands-on enabler (Mesa Verde), The clunkiness and clumsiness of transitions of Skyler are gone. What's left is a streamlined gal who's career driven and hardheaded enough to be with Jimmy despite the evidence he's not good for her, because she's tired of being the child who's patted on the head for a job well done and she wants to be the child who takes risks, like touching the burner even while it's glowing red hot (her relationship with Jimmy).

She's her own person, even whilest died to Jimmy.

Her complexity of right/wrong and ambiguity of morality when it suits her is absolutely fascinating.

[Spurtacular]

No word yet on when Season 4 will air that I've seen. I'm thinking maybe April or May, tbh.

[FlAVaK]

No word yet on when Season 4 will air that I've seen. I'm thinking maybe April or May, tbh.

http://www.goldderby.com/article/2017/better-call-saul-2018-exclusive/

September :wow:depressed:bang

[Spurtacular]

http://www.goldderby.com/article/2017/better-call-saul-2018-exclusive/

September :wow:depressed:bang

Doesn't surprise me. I was being conservative b/c Season 1 and 2 was February and Season 3 was April; but it did seem like they were dragging, tbh.

[Pavlov]

So there was word on when it would return two months ago.

[Spurtacular]

So there was word on when it would return two months ago.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/l2RntuMnKfR5AAbiU/source.gif

[Pavlov]

:lol n:cry w:cryrd

[Spurtacular]

:cry But muh last word :cry

https://cnet1.cbsistatic.com/img/QUycWeyrPNGqUwKzNeAEHpcBoJM=/770x433/2017/11/13/e5f6641d-7171-406d-aecf-18c86c97aeb8/porgscreammarkhamill.jpg

[SpursforSix]

August 6

Finally. I probably need to check out the last couple of episodes. I hate this year long wait.

[leemajors]

August 6

Finally. I probably need to check out the last couple of episodes. I hate this year long wait.

I got a few left in season 3, it's the best so far imo.

[Xevious]

Damn, it has been a long wait.

[Spurtacular]

That was a long wait. I was wondering if I had missed the season, tbh.

[Spurtacular]

Monday, August 6.

[InRareForm]

I forgot what happened in season 3 it has been so long

[SpursforSix]

Typical slow season opener. But at least I was able remember what happened last year.

[Spurtacular]

I only caught the end of the episode. I'm going to watch in full in about an hour. I did find Jimmy's indifference to Howard to be an interesting sort of transition point. Whether he thought Howard was being disingenuous about admitting neglect in Chuck's death or whether he was just showing his typical contempt for Howard, that was a fun little scene.

[InRareForm]

I thought first episode was good

[Spurtacular]

I thought first episode was good

I still haven't watched it all in one sitting. It's good for what it is, maybe. A glue episode, or a build-up episode.

[Xevious]

Rhea Seehorn can act. That scene with Kim and Howard was amazing.

[baseline bum]

Rhea Seehorn can act. That scene with Kim and Howard was amazing.

That fucking letter and the scholarship board? Damn Chuck was a prick.

[SpursforSix]

Well...it didn't take long to get things going. Good episode. Great scene with Jimmy and the interview. Although part of me would have liked to see him as a copier salesman for a while.

[Xevious]

Well...it didn't take long to get things going. Good episode. Great scene with Jimmy and the interview. Although part of me would have liked to see him as a copier salesman for a while.
Another great scene, classic Jimmy/Saul, though I don't quite understand it (surely theft was not his primary motive). He was trying so hard for acceptance/validation, and then was disgusted that they even bought all of his bullshit. :lol

[Spurtacular]

Another great scene, classic Jimmy/Saul, though I don't quite understand it (surely theft was not his primary motive). He was trying so hard for acceptance/validation, and then was disgusted that they even bought all of his bullshit. :lol

It was clear that for whatever reason he didn't want a job at this time or a sales job in general. I agree that the motive is not fully known.

[SpursforSix]

Another great scene, classic Jimmy/Saul, though I don't quite understand it (surely theft was not his primary motive). He was trying so hard for acceptance/validation, and then was disgusted that they even bought all of his bullshit. :lol

Yeah...I had never even considered that theft was his primary motive. It doesn't make a lot of sense. But now when I think about it, he did view the Hummel Dolls for a really long time. But surely that wasn't his plan at that point.

[Xevious]

Wow that was the first time we've seen a flash forward of Saul other than those post-Breaking Bad scenes that start each season. Not sure how I feel about that. Since we didn't see what was in the box he pulled out of the wall, I'm guessing it'll have some significance later.

[InRareForm]

this season is kind of slow

[SpursforSix]

this season is kind of slow

I thought it was picking up nicely until this last episode. They sure spent a lot of time on Kim defending those 2 kids.

[SpursforSix]

Honestly a little bored this season. I'm tired of all the time being spent on Kim.
And even Jimmy and the cellphones.

To me, the Mike story line is the most compelling right now.

I'm sure they're going somewhere with it all but it's kind of draggy.

[spurraider21]

Honestly a little bored this season. I'm tired of all the time being spent on Kim.
And even Jimmy and the cellphones.

To me, the Mike story line is the most compelling right now.

I'm sure they're going somewhere with it all but it's kind of draggy.
Bend over, I'll show ya kind of draggy.

[Spurminator]

Mike's death stare was in peak form last episode with the mouthy German dude.

[InRareForm]

That was a fun episode.

Jimmy got dark and bold with the pinata scene

[baseline bum]

The Ehrmentraut character feels wasted babysitting the Germans these last few episodes.

[Xevious]

I really don't care about Mike's side of the storyline... it just feels like a check-some-boxes prequel. Seeing Hector have a stroke, or Gus build his lab weren't really the reasons I got into this show.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Finish the lab and kill Kim off already...

[InRareForm]

I really don't care about Mike's side of the storyline... it just feels like a check-some-boxes prequel. Seeing Hector have a stroke, or Gus build his lab weren't really the reasons I got into this show.


What were you expecting tbh?

[Xevious]

What were you expecting tbh?
Less Mike, more Saul. I enjoy watching Jimmy/Saul, the struggling, morally challenged lawyer. And I've found the new characters on that side of the storyline interesting (Chuck, Kim, etc). Other than the fact that he ends up as a strip mall criminal defense attorney, we knew very little about Saul's past going in. All the Gus stuff we already know happens and just feels like fan service.

[Spurtacular]

Got behind. I'm on episode 7; episode 10 coming out tomorrow. Will check in when I'm caught up.

[baseline bum]

This season felt like it ended on a whimper these last few episodes. The lab construction dragged on half a season without any real payoff and god it looks like it will trudge on through season 5. I loved seeing the return of Slipping Jimmy earlier in the season but I didn't really get Kim's look of disapproval when Jimmy ran back to register to practice under the name Saul Goodman. He already told her he was going to do it last episode.

[InRareForm]

I enjoyed it but def could have been much better. I feel more wanting to rewatch breaking bad than watching new season of BCS.

[Xevious]

I can't see this going any longer than one more season.

[SpursforSix]

This season felt like it ended on a whimper these last few episodes. The lab construction dragged on half a season without any real payoff and god it looks like it will trudge on through season 5. I loved seeing the return of Slipping Jimmy earlier in the season but I didn't really get Kim's look of disapproval when Jimmy ran back to register to practice under the name Saul Goodman. He already told her he was going to do it last episode.

I think she was disappointed because she believed that he was really feeling some pain during the proceedings when talking about Chuck. He was showing some signs of being an normal human.
But when she found out it was just an act, it kind of crushed her.

[baseline bum]

I think she was disappointed because she believed that he was really feeling some pain during the proceedings when talking about Chuck. He was showing some signs of being an normal human.
But when she found out it was just an act, it kind of crushed her.

I don't know, Kim helped him with his tombstone and reading room scams to try to play up grief for Chuck that she knew wasn't there. Maybe she figured the suspension would make him play more by the rules and not less but she realized the latter when Jimmy wanted to change the name he was practicing under. Though that doesn't seem to fit either considering how she encouraged more of his scamming behavior with the Mesa Verde plans after the scam they ran to free Huell.

[SpursforSix]

I don't know, Kim helped him with his tombstone and reading room scams to try to play up grief for Chuck that she knew wasn't there. Maybe she figured the suspension would make him play more by the rules and not less but she realized the latter when Jimmy wanted to change the name he was practicing under. Though that doesn't seem to fit either considering how she encouraged more of his scamming behavior with the Mesa Verde plans after the scam they ran to free Huell.

Yeah...agree with all of that. Kim being in on the scams and trying get Jimmy back in. But I think she still believed he had some sort of heart. And she'd been harping on him to see a therapist because she didn't believe he was handling Chuck's death very well. Keeping it bottled up inside him. Then at that last hearing, I think she thought it was a breakthrough for Jimmy. Finally coming to terms with Chuck's death and having some grief. Kim started to tear up as well in the courtroom. I think it hit home for her that she's chosen to spend her life with someone who might lack any kind of real feelings.

[JMarkJohns]

Kim clearly thought she was helping Jimmy come to grips with his grief, or helping to tease the grief out of him.
Remember how flippant Jimmy was about first reading the letter in the first place? Didn’t give one quick shot about it.

She figured that was simply him putting up a strong front, that when confronted with the truth of it all, the real process of Jimmy/Chuck would be revealed, and, even if raw or not-well-rounded, the sincerity of even calling Chuck a Son of a bitch in front of the review board would help Jimmy realize real emotions, and help others see Jimmy as real, and still processing the most difficult of situations.

When he gave his speech, her grin was of culmination and approval, like parents watching a kid who struggled with school graduate high school or college.

Her shock at his revelation was both acknowledging Jimmy the Anti-hero was probably Jimmy the criminal all along, and, awareness that she was complicit in aiding, encouraging, and, now, empowering that man.

It was a slower season, and, it gravely missed Chuck. But Kim now knows she’s loaded the chimp with a machine gun.

[SpursforSix]

[QUOTE=J But Kim now knows she’s looked the chinp with a machine gun.[/QUOTE]

I was with ya until that. I assume that was "chump" or "chimp".
Looked the chump with a machine gun.
Loaded the chimp with a machine gun.

[JMarkJohns]

I was with ya until that. I assume that was "chump" or "chimp".
Looked the chump with a machine gun.
Loaded the chimp with a machine gun.

It’s a reference back to season 1, and what Chuck called Jimmy being a Lawyer.

Obviously long messages typed on a cell phone on a forum without a mobile friendly browser creates mistypes.

[Thanos]

Way too much time wasted on the Germans. Nacho almost completely disappeared from relevance by the end. The new Salamanca guy should make a damn good villain next season.

[baseline bum]

Kim clearly thought she was helping Jimmy come to grips with his grief, or helping to tease the grief out of him.
Remember how flippant Jimmy was about first reading the letter in the first place? Didn’t give one quick shot about it.

She figured that was simply him putting up a strong front, that when confronted with the truth of it all, the real process of Jimmy/Chuck would be revealed, and, even if raw or not-well-rounded, the sincerity of even calling Chuck a Son of a bitch in front of the review board would help Jimmy realize real emotions, and help others see Jimmy as real, and still processing the most difficult of situations.

When he gave his speech, her grin was of culmination and approval, like parents watching a kid who struggled with school graduate high school or college.

Her shock at his revelation was both acknowledging Jimmy the Anti-hero was probably Jimmy the criminal all along, and, awareness that she was complicit in aiding, encouraging, and, now, empowering that man.

It was a slower season, and, it gravely missed Chuck. But Kim now knows she’s loaded the chimp with a machine gun.

I guess it's in character for Kim to be that ridiculously gullible based on the way Jimmy has had her wrapped around his finger the entire series. Maybe it's bias from knowing who Jimmy became in Breaking Bad, but nothing about these last few episodes looked like anything other than a big act with him pretending he gave a shit about Chuck. Hopefully that realization makes Kim walk but I'm guessing she doesn't and Jimmy either gets her killed or thrown in prison next season.

[baseline bum]

Way too much time wasted on the Germans.

I guess what came out of that story line was showing Mike finally making that transformation into stone cold killer Breaking Bad Mike. I guess in parallel with Jimmy finally in earnest becoming Breaking Bad Saul. That murder was pretty hard to watch.

[JMarkJohns]

I guess it's in character for Kim to be that ridiculously gullible based on the way Jimmy has had her wrapped around his finger the entire series. Maybe it's bias from knowing who Jimmy became in Breaking Bad, but nothing about these last few episodes looked like anything other than a big act with him pretending he gave a shit about Chuck. Hopefully that realization makes Kim walk but I'm guessing she doesn't and Jimmy either gets her killed or thrown in prison next season.

I wrote elsewhere Kim is getting caught for her shit and disbarred. She probably doesn’t take down Jimmy, because by then I think they are finished, and she clearly doesn’t like lawyering, just the game. She’s Iverson. All the nitty gritty? Nah... but the game when it matters? But like Iverson, though, that strategy is bound to break down, and, ultimately, cost you dearly.

Being disbarred is hugely significant for Kim, because Law is all she’s known, 2. It will cement her status alongside Jimmy, which I don’t see her embracing, 3. It will likely reflect badly on her clients/firm who hold significant power, and, 4. Likely leads her back to “the good stuff.”

[baseline bum]

I wrote elsewhere Kim is getting caught for her shit and disbarred. She probably doesn’t take down Jimmy, because by then I think they are finished, and she clearly doesn’t like lawyering, just the game. She’s Iverson. All the nitty gritty? Nah... but the game when it matters? But like Iverson, though, that strategy is bound to break down, and, ultimately, cost you dearly.

Being disbarred is hugely significant for Kim, because Law is all she’s known, 2. It will cement her status alongside Jimmy, which I don’t see her embracing, 3. It will likely reflect badly on her clients/firm who hold significant power, and, 4. Likely leads her back to “the good stuff.”

Damn that's a sad future for Kim and I can definitely see things going like that. Maybe she gets drunk and drives her car into a tree or off the side of a hill the night she gets disbarred.

[JMarkJohns]

Damn that's a sad future for Kim and I can definitely see things going like that. Maybe she gets drunk and drives her car into a tree or off the side of a hill the night she gets disbarred.

I think the flash forward to the office shredding party earlier I. Saul Goodman’s office a hint was dropped that Kim is living, but very distant from Jimmy. He relays a message that is to be said to an unnamed party as he’s about to flee forever. Pretty sure it’s Kim.

But I definitely see a spiral that someone who has just enough conscience to know right from wrong will feel bad enough abou the wrong committed that Kim just loses it. I’ve seen it in real life. Seems a perfect setup.

[baseline bum]

I think the flash forward to the office shredding party earlier I. Saul Goodman’s office a hint was dropped that Kim is living, but very distant from Jimmy. He relays a message that is to be said to an unnamed party as he’s about to flee forever. Pretty sure it’s Kim.


Damn I forgot that.

[JMarkJohns]

Damn I forgot that.

I’m actively arguing with someone who thinks Jimmy might not have broken bad except for Chuck, as if Jimmy with Chuck’s support didn’t almost kill two kids in a hustle to secure a client in the first goddamn episode where they recall the origins of Slippin’ Jimmy.

Jimmy was always Saul. Just sometimes he was better at hiding it.

Honestly, has he ever had an honest process with his practice? One? We were all Kim, thinking Jimmy was an Anti-hero simply because we didn’t like Chuck and Howard, when Jimmy was always the criminal and without Chuck’s sorta leash of approval, Jimmy is free to fully embrace his nature.

In the hearing he talked about living up to the name McGill as a lawyer, and then immediately goes to a DBA.

[Spurtacular]

I was halfway through episode seven but didn't finish it when I saw there was seven episodes of Always Sunny Season 13 up. When I went to resume tonight, the episode was pulled. Watching episode eight tonight. Then I'll have two left to finish the season.

[Spurtacular]

Cutting off a piece of the dude's ear was a bit Hollywood, imo.

[Spurtacular]

Anyone watching Lodge 49? I watched the first couple episodes but wasn't hooked.

[SpursforSix]

Anyone watching Lodge 49? I watched the first couple episodes but wasn't hooked.

No...I thought about it and then forgot.

[Spurtacular]

Just finished the season. I'd say the main point of this season was the changing dynamic between Jimmy and Kim and her realizing that he is a bad dude. The digging the hole, Lalo, drug pusher sh** was all pretty much filler. The cel phone stuff and Jimmy stunts were classic BCS though.

[SpursforSix]

Just finished the season. I'd say the main point of this season was the changing dynamic between Jimmy and Kim and her realizing that he is a bad dude. The digging the hole, Lalo, drug pusher sh** was all pretty much filler. The cel phone stuff and Jimmy stunts were classic BCS though.

It was still better than most stuff on TV but to me, this was by far the least entertaining season.

[baseline bum]

February 23rd


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=794ug8p0LOY

[Xevious]

About fucking time. Jonathan Banks is going to be a pile of dust by the time they wrap this shit up.

[Spurtacular]

Looking forward to it.

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe one too many but regardless, start filming now while Banks and Margolis are still around.

'Better Call Saul' gets renewed for 6th and final season
Associated Press Associated Press•January 16, 2020

PASADENA, Calif. (AP) — “Better Call Saul” has been renewed for a sixth and final season consisting of 13 episodes that will air in 2021.

The upcoming fifth season debuts Feb. 23-24 on AMC. The “Breaking Bad” prequel starring Bob Odenkirk will air 10 episodes this year focusing on main character Jimmy McGill's decision to practice law as Saul Goodman, which creates unexpected changes for those around him.

Executive producer Peter Gould told a TV critics meeting on Thursday that it's the run everyone on the show wanted. After season four, Gould said he began envisioning how it would end.

“I have to say, none of it is what I expected when it started,” he said. "When this season is over, I think you’ll have a better understanding of where it’s all going.”

By the time it's over, “Better Call Saul” will have made one episode more than “Breaking Bad's” total of 62.

[SpursforSix]

Maybe one too many but regardless, start filming now while Banks and Margolis are still around.

'Better Call Saul' gets renewed for 6th and final season
Associated Press Associated Press•January 16, 2020

PASADENA, Calif. (AP) — “Better Call Saul” has been renewed for a sixth and final season consisting of 13 episodes that will air in 2021.

The upcoming fifth season debuts Feb. 23-24 on AMC. The “Breaking Bad” prequel starring Bob Odenkirk will air 10 episodes this year focusing on main character Jimmy McGill's decision to practice law as Saul Goodman, which creates unexpected changes for those around him.

Executive producer Peter Gould told a TV critics meeting on Thursday that it's the run everyone on the show wanted. After season four, Gould said he began envisioning how it would end.

“I have to say, none of it is what I expected when it started,” he said. "When this season is over, I think you’ll have a better understanding of where it’s all going.”

By the time it's over, “Better Call Saul” will have made one episode more than “Breaking Bad's” total of 62.

Sounds about right I guess. It has been a little strange watching the actors you mentioned age fairly considerably since BB and mentally knowing they're supposed to be younger.

[Reck]

Going off the cold open vignettes they show every season opener it will probably end with dude shooting himself. Or maybe it's too obvious.

[ChumpDumper]

Sounds about right I guess. It has been a little strange watching the actors you mentioned age fairly considerably since BB and mentally knowing they're supposed to be younger.Yeah, there's some active suspension of disbelief going on and Odenkirk's hairpieces seem sillier every season, but the sheer quality of the show keeps me coming back.

[ChumpDumper]

Going off the cold open vignettes they show every season opener it will probably end with dude shooting himself. Or maybe it's too obvious.You know if Banks dies, they might be able to pull off a big chunk of the final season following paranoid Gene Taković. Those flash forwards have been really compelling for me.

[Blake]

The show moves like molasses but in a good way.

I thought the season finale sucked tho

[leemajors]

https://ew.com/tv/2020/01/16/better-call-saul-season-5-robert-forster-dean-norris/

[Xevious]

13 episodes for the final season? Wow. I'm glad there is an end in sight though. Breaking Bad left on a high note, and I want BCS to also. I assume more time will be dedicated to the Gene storyline in season six with the extra episodes.

[Xevious]

Going off the cold open vignettes they show every season opener it will probably end with dude shooting himself. Or maybe it's too obvious.
Hopefully not. I also hope they don't just kill off the characters that don't appear in BB - Kim especially. Something forces her away obviously, but maybe she shows back up and is the one who finds Jimmy/Saul when he's hiding as Gene.

[SpursforSix]

Hmm. I was just Googling to see if Vince Gilligan had anything upcoming. I didn't realize he was involved in Dark Matter which has pretty good reviews.
Anyone watch this?

[ChumpDumper]

https://ew.com/tv/2020/01/16/better-call-saul-season-5-robert-forster-dean-norris/Man, that's some great planning. Makes me feel they have contingencies for Banks and Margolis too.

[FkLA]

Anyone know where I can watch Season 4? Netflix only has the first three seasons and the AMC only has like the first two, IIRC.

[SpursforSix]

Anyone know where I can watch Season 4? Netflix only has the first three seasons and the AMC only has like the first two, IIRC.

It looks like it’s on Netflix.

[Reck]

It looks like it’s on Netflix.

Not the 4th. They’ll probably drop it a week before the 5th season comes out though.

[baseline bum]

Anyone know where I can watch Season 4? Netflix only has the first three seasons and the AMC only has like the first two, IIRC.

High seas matey

[SpursforSix]

It looks like it’s on Netflix.

This is right. I was looking at BB.

[Reck]

Not the 4th. They’ll probably drop it a week before the 5th season comes out though.


This is right. I was looking at BB.

Unless you live outside the US you ain't right.


Now, we’re expecting the series to be added a month before the new season is due to air on AMC. For now, that’s not due to air until 2020 meaning we’re currently not expecting season 4 of Better Call Saul to arrive on Netflix until at least early 2020. It will be on Netflix shortly before its season 5 debut on AMC.

https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/better-call-saul-season-4-netflix-release-schedule-10-2019/

They do the same thing with the shitty Walking Dead series.

[SpursforSix]

Unless you live outside the US you ain't right.



https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/better-call-saul-season-4-netflix-release-schedule-10-2019/

They do the same thing with the shitty Walking Dead series.

I just checked on my phone and saw 1-5 if Breaking Bad

[FkLA]

High seas matey

Figured I could find it on pb just don't feel like going through the trouble of getting a vpn. Netflix I get but it's stupid that even AMC's own app doesn't have it, imo.

[SpursforSix]

Figured I could find it on pb just don't feel like going through the trouble of getting a vpn. Netflix I get but it's stupid that even AMC's own app doesn't have it, imo.

If you want to Venmo me $30, I’ll FaceTime it to you.

[baseline bum]

nm

[spurraider21]

If you want to Venmo me $30, I’ll FaceTime it to you.
Transmit it to him via beats

[SpursforSix]

Transmit it to him via beats

It's clear that he's not willing to buy the BCS episodes on Prime for a couple of bucks each. No way does he have Beats.

[FkLA]

It's clear that he's not willing to buy the BCS episodes on Prime for a couple of bucks each. No way does he have Beats.

Bend over, I'll show you some beats.

[SpursforSix]

Bend over, I'll show you some beats.

0/10...trite and dismissive of Beats

The better option was, "bend over, I'll fucking give you a couple of bucks"

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rYYmmNpJLQ

[SpursforSix]

I was going to wait until the season was done and then binge it but broke down and watched the first episode last night.
Great opener. Hope this is a sign of things to come this season. Every storyline is really interesting right now.

[Spurtacular]

Haven't read it yet, but this popped into my feed....

https://www.theringer.com/tv/2020/2/21/21146275/better-call-saul-season-5-breaking-bad-legacy?utm_source=pocket-newtab

[Spurtacular]

Better Call Saul ending next year, too....

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2020-01-16/better-call-saul-breaking-bad-amc-final-season-renewed

[Xevious]

I was going to wait until the season was done and then binge it but broke down and watched the first episode last night.
Great opener. Hope this is a sign of things to come this season. Every storyline is really interesting right now.
I mean, it's good but the closer to BB we get the easier it is for us as viewers to connect the dots without the show spelling it out for us. For me the only two questions I have left are: what happens to Kim, and how does the future Gene storyline wrap up?

[SpursforSix]

I mean, it's good but the closer to BB we get the easier it is for us as viewers to connect the dots without the show spelling it out for us. For me the only two questions I have left are: what happens to Kim, and how does the future Gene storyline wrap up?

I don’t know what happened to Kim but I’m fairly certain it’s not good and it’s Saul’s fault.
For a brief sex in Episode 2, I thought that was young Jesse and Badger.

[Xevious]

I don’t know what happened to Kim but I’m fairly certain it’s not good and it’s Saul’s fault.
For a brief sex in Episode 2, I thought that was young Jesse and Badger.
Hopefully they don't kill her. If I had to guess, she gets disbarred, because she keeps going along with all of Saul's scams.

[SpursforSix]

Hopefully they don't kill her. If I had to guess, she gets disbarred, because she keeps going along with all of Saul's scams.

That's kind of what I'm thinking.

[SpursforSix]

So good. Starting to see more of the BB characters introduced.

[baseline bum]

Oh man these two scenes were classic


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYHoxAjr5Rg

[Spurtacular]

I wasn't paying enough attention as to why Gus wanted Hank to intercept that half mil drop. I get that it had something to do with throwing them off the scent. But I'm foggy on the specifics.

[140]

This show is so good

[SpursforSix]

This show is so good

it’s one of the few shows that I actually watch week to week. As opposed to just binging when the season’s done.

[Spurtacular]

it’s one of the few shows that I actually watch week to week. As opposed to just binging when the season’s done.

It's the only current show I've been following, week to week.

I had watched the first couple episodes of Season 10 of 'The Walking Dead'. It was kind of weak; with the time I was going to go back and finish up, but there's a gap in On Demand, so I'll have to watch it on Netflix when it's released; it's probably gonna be not so good; but nine seasons invested, so I wouldn't mind finishing.

'Young Sheldon' and 'Super Store' are a couple light comedies I'm going to catch up on, though.

[Spurtacular]

A Lydia sighting. :wow

[Spurtacular]

Seven million dollars? I can do that.

[SpursforSix]

It will always be compared to BB and looked at as a derivative but imo, it's very close.

[Spurtacular]

It will always be compared to BB and looked at as a derivative but imo, it's very close.

Watched the attached vid before it was set to private. It was really good IIRC.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/the-1-reason-better-call-saul-is-a-better-show-than-breaking-bad.html/

[baseline bum]

Damn yesterday's episode was epic. Gotta wonder if that meeting between Kim and Lalo ends up getting her killed though.

[Spurtacular]

It will always be compared to BB and looked at as a derivative but imo, it's very close.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhmusvVrqHw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL1w5c7UYLM

[SpursforSix]

Damn yesterday's episode was epic. Gotta wonder if that meeting between Kim and Lalo ends up getting her killed though.

yep. Mike said it...”she’s in the game now”.

[baseline bum]

LOL this teaser for next week's episode.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDGcLz0snc0

[SpursforSix]

LOL this teaser for next week's episode.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDGcLz0snc0

I just can't bring myself to watch it. I want everything to be new.

[140]

These kind of episodes are a bit of a bore for me tbh. We know they are not gonna die. It's all setup, nothing really gets accomplished. On to the next.

[baseline bum]

I just can't bring myself to watch it. I want everything to be new.

Well we know Jimmy lives. I'm just glad to read there is going to be a sixth season. I was worried this was the last one and we were seeing the last 4-5 episodes of the series.

[SpursforSix]

Well we know Jimmy lives. I'm just glad to read there is going to be a sixth season. I was worried this was the last one and we were seeing the last 4-5 episodes of the series.

For sure as to the 6th season. There are plenty of decent shows out there but when BCS is over, it will leave a big hole (bend over...).
Hopefully Gilligan can continue on and put out something excellent. BCS and BB are in my top 5 of all time.
Maybe he'll do a show about Flynn's life after BB.

[baseline bum]

Maybe he'll do a show about Flynn's life after BB.

Yeah right I want to watch that cripple eat breakfast for six seasons?

[Spurtacular]

Yeah right I want to watch that cripple eat breakfast for six seasons?

Some things are better left unsaid, bruh.

[Spurtacular]

Lalo lawyered.

[baseline bum]

Damn Kim saved Jimmy from Lalo. I wonder if she leaves him and moves to Omaha in the season finale after quitting her job.

[Spurtacular]

Damn Kim saved Jimmy from Lalo. I wonder if she leaves him and moves to Omaha in the season finale after quitting her job.

Looking that way. The producers don't have the stomach to have her killed, imo.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKnX26LH58A

[SpursforSix]

Damn Kim saved Jimmy from Lalo. I wonder if she leaves him and moves to Omaha in the season finale after quitting her job.

I thought for sure Mike was going to have to handle that. Which would have opened a new can of worms.

[baseline bum]

I thought for sure Mike was going to have to handle that. Which would have opened a new can of worms.

Nah knew that wouldn't happen because remember when Jimmy got kidnapped by Walt and Jessie and he thought it was Lalo?

[SpursforSix]

Nah knew that wouldn't happen because remember when Jimmy got kidnapped by Walt and Jessie and he thought it was Lalo?

Shit. No...I didn't remember that at all. I don't remember Lalo even being a thing in BB. Was the character actually in the episodes? Or was he just mentioned?

[baseline bum]

Shit. No...I didn't remember that at all. I don't remember Lalo even being a thing in BB. Was the character actually in the episodes? Or was he just mentioned?

When Walt and Jessie threw Saul in that grave he was asking if Lalo sent them and said it was Ignacio's fault.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gM6_FCeiBA

[SpursforSix]

When Walt and Jessie threw Saul in that grave he was asking if Lalo sent them and said it was Ignacio's fault.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gM6_FCeiBA

Damn man. Thumbs up.

[baseline bum]

Damn man. Thumbs up.

Amazing that Gilligan has gotten such a great series out of those couple of throwaway lines.

[SpursforSix]

Amazing that Gilligan has gotten such a great series out of those couple of throwaway lines.

Yeah. A lot of times, we see a writer have a great series and then struggle to find the same "magic" as the first. But to be able to do what he's done (2 top series of all time) is pretty special.
Granted, he may have captured lightening in a bottle with the cast that was assembled from BB. But to acknowledge Odenkirk as a potential star that could carry his own show was good stuff.

[baseline bum]

Yeah. A lot of times, we see a writer have a great series and then struggle to find the same "magic" as the first. But to be able to do what he's done (2 top series of all time) is pretty special.
Granted, he may have captured lightening in a bottle with the cast that was assembled from BB. But to acknowledge Odenkirk as a potential star that could carry his own show was good stuff.

Shit I'm convinced he could make a killer show about Badger and Skinny Pete too. :lol

[SpursforSix]

Shit I'm convinced he could make a killer show about Badger and Skinny Pete too. :lol

For real. I was kidding of course about a show based around Flynn but I'd still watch that shit. I think the only characters that I couldn't handle would be some kind of show about Skylar and her sister.

[Spurtacular]

Shit. No...I didn't remember that at all. I don't remember Lalo even being a thing in BB. Was the character actually in the episodes? Or was he just mentioned?

He ain't remembering f'ing random names from way back either. He's seen YT vids that point this out.

[SpursforSix]

He ain't remembering f'ing random names from way back either. He's seen YT vids that point this out.

Idk...bb's pretty straight up.

[Spurtacular]

Idk...bb's pretty straight up.

Lalo references from BB in BCS vids pretty hot right now.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuReOeKZ2GQ

14 episodes in the series left.

[spurraider21]

Shit I'm convinced he could make a killer show about Badger and Skinny Pete too. :lol
premise: skinny pete becomes a professional pianist and badger keeps fucking it up


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_974ZusIvhk

[Spurtacular]

Shit I'm convinced he could make a killer show about Badger and Skinny Pete too. :lol

It does have potential, tbh.