Better Call Saul - almost forgot

[140]

I for one hope he's going to get away from the BB universe. Give us something fresh. Shit, I wouldn't be surprised if he's sick of it by this point tbh :lol

[Spurtacular]

I for one hope he's going to get away from the BB universe. Give us something fresh. Shit, I wouldn't be surprised if he's sick of it by this point tbh :lol

I don't know that he hasn't peaked, tbh.

[140]

I don't know that he hasn't peaked, tbh.

Its not unlikely tbh

[Spurtacular]

Its not unlikely tbh

I see him producing something like 'Dispatches From Elsewhere' playing on AMC right now. Sucky? Maybe not. But not epic by any means. Or he might do something a cut above that. But I just don't know that he's gonna hit a third grand slam in a row.

[baseline bum]

I for one hope he's going to get away from the BB universe. Give us something fresh. Shit, I wouldn't be surprised if he's sick of it by this point tbh :lol

Hopefully we get a Season 6 of Better Call Saul. Next Monday is about the only thing I'm going to care to watch on TV for the rest of the year most likely.

[Spurtacular]

Hopefully we get a Season 6 of Better Call Saul. Next Monday is about the only thing I'm going to care to watch on TV for the rest of the year most likely.

It's already been announced, bruh. Thirteen episodes. Try to keep up.

[leemajors]

Pretty intense finale

[baseline bum]

Pretty intense finale

Too bad it'll be a while before they film Season 6. Hopefully no one dies.

[Reck]

Season 5 is easily comparable to BB season 4 imo. It was that good.

Lalo is such a badass character he can’t just be cheaply killed so I’m glad they saved him for the last season.

I don’t get Kim, tbh. She went full feminist in one gulp. She wants to ruin Howard’s career and life because she felt insulted from his sexist comment? Lol

I have a different take then you guys on what’s going to happen to Her. She’s gonna get cancer or some desease and go out that way.

Otherwise, she’s going to get killed. Last few scenes set her on a collision course either way.

[Xevious]

Season 5 is easily comparable to BB season 4 imo. It was that good.

Lalo is such a badass character he can’t just be cheaply killed so I’m glad they saved him for the last season.

I don’t get Kim, tbh. She went full feminist in one gulp. She wants to ruin Howard’s career and life because she felt insulted from his sexist comment? Lol

I have a different take then you guys on what’s going to happen to Her. She’s gonna get cancer or some desease and go out that way.

Otherwise, she’s going to get killed. Last few scenes set her on a collision course either way.
I still say she gets disbarred somehow... possibly taking the fall for whatever scheme they pull off with Howard. Then maybe she goes into hiding/moves away because of the cartel shit. I think she'll show up in those post-BB scenes eventually.

[ChumpDumper]

I still say she gets disbarred somehow... possibly taking the fall for whatever scheme they pull off with Howard. Then maybe she goes into hiding/moves away because of the cartel shit. I think she'll show up in those post-BB scenes eventually.I was thinking she might go to prison and Jimmy cuts her loose to save himself.

[Xevious]

I was thinking she might go to prison and Jimmy cuts her loose to save himself.
Possibly. I just think it's too "easy" to kill her off as an explanation why she doesn't appear on BB. Hopefully they go a different route.

[ChumpDumper]

Possibly. I just think it's too "easy" to kill her off as an explanation why she doesn't appear on BB. Hopefully they go a different route.Agreed. Having Gene reach out to her or even just clock her could be pretty powerful.

[Reck]

I'm also thinking Nacho and Lalo will kill each other standoff style.

He quickly put two and two together while he was killing the henchmens sent by Fring.

[baseline bum]

I'm also thinking Nacho and Lalo will kill each other standoff style.

He quickly put two and two together while he was killing the henchmens sent by Fring.

Nacho is definitely dead if next season actually gets made. Should have sent Mike in to kill Lalo though.

[baseline bum]

Possibly. I just think it's too "easy" to kill her off as an explanation why she doesn't appear on BB. Hopefully they go a different route.

If I'm going to make a wild guess, I'll say she ends up in prison for something she does trying to frame Howard. And maybe her sentence ends in the Gene timeline.

[baseline bum]

I was thinking she might go to prison and Jimmy cuts her loose to save himself.

Shit, you beat me to it. :lol

EDIT: Xevious too :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Nacho is definitely dead if next season actually gets made.I can kind of see his surviving Jesse-style if he doesn't sacrifice himself saving his dad.

Should have sent Mike in to kill Lalo though.That might be next season's showdown.

[baseline bum]

I can kind of see his surviving Jesse-style if he doesn't sacrifice himself saving his dad.
That might be next season's showdown.

I'm thinking Nacho never sees it coming since he thinks Lalo is gone. Probably thinks he's ok with Fring finally letting him go since Fring thinks Lalo is gone too.

[Reck]

Imo, niggas need to die in bulk next season. They have been using and leaning too much on the vacuum cleaning guy as a crutch to bail out most characters.

I need blood.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm thinking Nacho never sees it coming since he thinks Lalo is gone. Probably thinks he's ok with Fring finally letting him go since Fring thinks Lalo is gone too.I figure they'll be a bit of a war but I can't see its being traced back to Gus so he and Mike might help Nacho on the DL and then kill him/let him die lest they be exposed at some point. lol I'm seeing lots of betrayals before this ends.

[140]

Season 5 is easily comparable to BB season 4 imo. It was that good.

Lalo is such a badass character he can’t just be cheaply killed so I’m glad they saved him for the last season.

I don’t get Kim, tbh. She went full feminist in one gulp. She wants to ruin Howard’s career and life because she felt insulted from his sexist comment? Lol

I have a different take then you guys on what’s going to happen to Her. She’s gonna get cancer or some desease and go out that way.

Otherwise, she’s going to get killed. Last few scenes set her on a collision course either way.

Thats more her trying to direct Jimmys attention and energy away from cartel related activities and into a scheme where she has control imho. Sure the sexist comment played a part but I don't see it as her going full feminist tbh

[Spurtacular]

Lalo doing a Rambo, and the assassins being bumbling idiots; that's my first criticism of the show in some episodes now.

[Xevious]

Lalo doing a Rambo, and the assassins being bumbling idiots; that's my first criticism of the show in some episodes now.
I kind of agree.

lol at Fring hand picking the best guys around to do this job.

[baseline bum]

I kind of agree.

lol at Fring hand picking the best guys around to do this job.

Was it Fring's guys though? Or was it the Mexican guy who had Jimmy ambushed to try to keep Lalo in jail? I have to think Mike would have been the assassin if Fring was the one calling the shots.

[Reck]

Not as egregious as Lalo having just 1 and a half body guards with him. Literally had an old guy who was not aware of his surroundings and a kid with no experience.

Lalo outsmarted everyone this season. He didn’t just “rambo” his way out of that, imo.

[Xevious]

Was it Fring's guys though? Or was it the Mexican guy who had Jimmy ambushed to try to keep Lalo in jail? I have to think Mike would have been the assassin if Fring was the one calling the shots.
Would have to rewatch the episode. I remember Fring telling Mike that he picked the best guys to get the job done. Something along those lines.

[baseline bum]

Would have to rewatch the episode. I remember Fring telling Mike that he picked the best guys to get the job done. Something along those lines.

Damn guess I forgot that scene, as it sounds familiar now that you bring it up.

[Reck]

Do you guys watch the reaction channels? It’s a thing that’s gotten pretty huge within the YouTube community. I often find myself watching those.

[Spurtacular]

"The men I have chosen are highly skilled and the best...."

Gustavo Fring

Also, in the prior episode he was talking about how their actions needed to be uimpeachable.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Imo, niggas need to die in bulk next season. They have been using and leaning too much on the vacuum cleaning guy as a crutch to bail out most characters.

I need blood.
This

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDDKJNbp0H0

Thank God Hillary didn't win. They would've soiled Rhea Seahorn by casting her in whatever series about her.
Just like they did to Tea Leoni.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOPvzORIpYk

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS1So8-jv-0

[Trainwreck2100]

Have you seriously regressed to posting fan theory click baity buillshit

[Spurtacular]

Have you seriously regressed to posting fan theory click baity buillshit

Did I hurt your feelings, snowflake?

[Trainwreck2100]

Did I hurt your feelings, snowflake?

:lol hate big tech, but became slave to the youtube algorithm. Click baity bullshit is click baity bullshit, the fact that you waste even a second watching "fan theory" videos shows that you are missing something in your life, go out and exercise, find a bitch.

[Spurtacular]

:lol hate big tech, but became slave to the youtube algorithm. Click baity bullshit is click baity bullshit, the fact that you waste even a second watching "fan theory" videos shows that you are missing something in your life, go out and exercise, find a bitch.

The first one was really just bumping the thread, but it didn't really hit my usually higher standards for interest.
The second one had some good informational tidbits in the first few minutes.
Anyways, not a big deal. You listen for a minute and decide if you're interested, or you don't even do that.

[Trainwreck2100]

The first one was really just bumping the thread, but it didn't really hit my usually higher standards for interest.
The second one had some good informational tidbits in the first few minutes.
Anyways, not a big deal. You listen for a minute and decide if you're interested, or you don't even do that.

If I had to guess and this is just me spitballing, it starts with "hey everybody it's your boy insert name here. Better call Saul is coming up to its final season, we don't know when it's coming out but heres what we do know”

[Spurtacular]

***

[Spurtacular]

Trainwreck2100

Tell me how my ass tastes, bitch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU0tA6jNyls

[SpursforSix]

Tell me how my ass tastes, bitch.


Probably like semen.

[Spurtacular]

Probably like semen.

Don't get your hopes up.

[spurraider21]

finally caught up. obviously a very strong season, but i find myself really bothered by kim's character. after the stunt jimmy pulled at the mesa verde meeting, there is no way that relationship should have continued, let alone escalated. and now toward the end she's actually trying to convince him to go along one of these stunts? her descent into this kind of madness just doesnt sit right tbh

and reading up on the thread, i really didnt mind her reaction to howard's condescension. i dont know if it was even necessarily sexism, he was just implying that she was being heavily manipulated by jimmy and that she basically had no agency. no wonder she got pissed, especially when jimmy was the one telling her not to quit

based on the breaking bad scene in the desert, its pretty clear lalo is going to be alive at the end of this... i'm assuming he kills nacho and/or his dad. as for kim, hard to know. still imagine she's going to be on lalo's radar even after that showdown they had. i also thought kim would have been a good introduction to the vaccum guy. we know that at some point saul got his contact, dont really know how. too bad the actor is dead

also, hank and lydia looked old as fuck in their scenes

[Spurtacular]

finally caught up. obviously a very strong season, but i find myself really bothered by kim's character. after the stunt jimmy pulled at the mesa verde meeting, there is no way that relationship should have continued, let alone escalated. and now toward the end she's actually trying to convince him to go along one of these stunts? her descent into this kind of madness just doesnt sit right tbh

Been too long since watching to really speak specifically to this. I'll say that it was being set up for Kim and Jimmy to break up before season's end. But her enmity towards other parties for which she bonded with Jimmy over did seem plausible to me. I agree that her transformation from straight edge to wild card can perhaps not sit all the way right though.

[SpursforSix]

Odenkirk hospitalized. Hope he's OK.

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/bob-odenkirk-hospitalized-collapse-better-call-saul-1235029033/

[Reck]

Odenkirk hospitalized. Hope he's OK.

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/bob-odenkirk-hospitalized-collapse-better-call-saul-1235029033/

Heat stroke to be honest. There’s been more heat waves this summer than I can remember in n a while.

[baseline bum]

Heat stroke to be honest. There’s been more heat waves this summer than I can remember in n a while.

Has New Mexico been hot? I imagine we'll finally start seeing normal summer weather in August, but so far this has been the tamest summer I have ever seen in south Texas. It's almost 5:00 and it's only 91 degrees right now. Normally this time of year we're high 90s to low 100s, but this July has been virtually all in the 80s.

[BD24]

Has New Mexico been hot? I imagine we'll finally start seeing normal summer weather in August, but so far this has been the tamest summer I have ever seen in south Texas. It's almost 5:00 and it's only 91 degrees right now. Normally this time of year we're high 90s to low 100s, but this July has been virtually all in the 80s.
For real. We have been low 90s most days. I’ve been waiting for the crushing triple digits heat. But, we have somehow avoided it to this point

[SpursforSix]

For real. We have been low 90s most days. I’ve been waiting for the crushing triple digits heat. But, we have somehow avoided it to this point

It's still super early but it has been pretty mild. And the rain has been great. Although I'll probably wish is was spread out through the whole summer.

[Spurtacular]

Publicity stunt, tbh.

[baseline bum]

It's still super early but it has been pretty mild. And the rain has been great. Although I'll probably wish is was spread out through the whole summer.

It ain't that early, we're almost in August. Usually the ~9 weeks in June and July are nasty and mid September is when things start getting decent again. If we only end up with ~7 nasty weeks of summer from here to mid September that's still a huge upgrade from the typical ~16 weeks of disgusting summer weather.

[SpursforSix]

It ain't that early, we're almost in August. Usually the ~9 weeks in June and July are nasty and mid September is when things start getting decent again. If we only end up with ~7 nasty weeks of summer from here to mid September that's still a huge upgrade from the typical ~16 weeks of disgusting summer weather.

Sure. But there have also been times when summer weather drug through September. It's been relatively anomalous having this much rain and cooler weather so far. Just hoping it's just not a delay until 3 months of unbearable heat hits.

[Spurtacular]

Blue Santa Faggs talking to himself.

[Extra Stout]

Has New Mexico been hot? I imagine we'll finally start seeing normal summer weather in August, but so far this has been the tamest summer I have ever seen in south Texas. It's almost 5:00 and it's only 91 degrees right now. Normally this time of year we're high 90s to low 100s, but this July has been virtually all in the 80s.
The same omega-block kink in the jet stream that has kept Boise at or over 100 basically all summer has kept most of Texas relatively cool.

[Reck]

It was a heart attack.

[Neo.]

pretty great first 3 eps this season

[Dirks_Finale]

This series, so far, has been sort of lame. After watching fast paced Breaking Bad and El Camino, there are just too many dry toast moments in season one, which I have amost finished. Does it get better in seasons 2-5?

[Reck]

This series, so far, has been sort of lame. After watching fast paced Breaking Bad and El Camino, there are just too many dry toast moments in season one, which I have amost finished. Does it get better in seasons 2-5?

The first season of Breaking Bad wasn’t that great either. It was slow pace and not much happened in terms of what you are describing as fast pace.

BCS is the same way in that regard. It picks up midway through season 2 I wanna say.

[Dirks_Finale]

The first season of Breaking Bad wasn’t that great either. It was slow pace and not much happened in terms of what you are describing as fast pace.

BCS is the same way in that regard. It picks up midway through season 2 I wanna say.

Good point about Breaking bad, tbh.

[Blake]

Seasons 2-4 are basically worthless to push the story. Season 5 is great

[Neo.]

This series, so far, has been sort of lame. After watching fast paced Breaking Bad and El Camino, there are just too many dry toast moments in season one, which I have amost finished. Does it get better in seasons 2-5?

what are you talking about

breaking bad literally was not fast paced at all until the last season, and that was only fast paced by its own standards

el camino was a movie that spanned the events of a couple days, of course its pace is going to be faster

if you just wanna watch a bunch of mindless violence and action, stick to vin diesel movies or FX shows

[baseline bum]

Amazing episode. Still think Salamanca is going to go after Nacho's dad though.

[Millennial_Messiah]

This thread makes me hungry for food involving hot green chile peppers. Unfortunately, I'm going to be at Pappadeaux in SA tonight. On the bright side, it's free food that would otherwise be quite expensive. On the downside, I have to listen to a seminar with my mother about retirement for 2 hours.

Back to the purpose of this post... yep, Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul. ABQ, el Burque.

If you're ever planning on going to the area, I'd recommend this restaurant:

https://www.theranchersclubofnm.com/dinner-menu

They're only open for dinnertime but they have absolute incredible steaks with NM chile/NM seasoning and awesome wild game meat if you're into that (I am and I loved it there).

[Neo.]

This thread makes me hungry for food involving hot green chile peppers. Unfortunately, I'm going to be at Pappadeaux in SA tonight. On the bright side, it's free food that would otherwise be quite expensive. On the downside, I have to listen to a seminar with my mother about retirement for 2 hours.

Back to the purpose of this post... yep, Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul. ABQ, el Burque.

If you're ever planning on going to the area, I'd recommend this restaurant:

https://www.theranchersclubofnm.com/dinner-menu

They're only open for dinnertime but they have absolute incredible steaks with NM chile/NM seasoning and awesome wild game meat if you're into that (I am and I loved it there).

andy, with the bads :td

[spurraider21]

The first season of Breaking Bad wasn’t that great either. It was slow pace and not much happened in terms of what you are describing as fast pace.

BCS is the same way in that regard. It picks up midway through season 2 I wanna say.
i didnt realize this until i went back to rewatch the series

now i dont mind a slow show as long as there are good character moments. mad men felt like that too.

[pgardn]

The first season of Breaking Bad wasn’t that great either. It was slow pace and not much happened in terms of what you are describing as fast pace.

BCS is the same way in that regard. It picks up midway through season 2 I wanna say.

The first season of Breaking Bad is what pulled me in.
I loved the set up of the characters and all the horrible mistakes they made.
Imo as it went on, it got way too much like a super hero/villian movie, I liked the stupid mistakes. Walter got way too lucky- bad as the series went on, it made it too easy to be incredibly bad imo.

But all in all I have never seen a series as good as breaking bad.
I thought The Wire was really good as well.

In Better Call Saul, I find myself not wanting to see his shenanigans' with his female lawyer friend, I just want to see him squirm with the really bad guys.

[baseline bum]

So how you all expect the Gene storyline to play out? I think I'm expecting that cab driver and his friend to beat him to death when he tries to handle him after being recognized.

[Dirks_Finale]

The first season of Breaking Bad is what pulled me in.
I loved the set up of the characters and all the horrible mistakes they made.
Imo as it went on, it got way too much like a super hero/villian movie, I liked the stupid mistakes. Walter got way too lucky- bad as the series went on, it made it too easy to be incredibly bad imo.

But all in all I have never seen a series as good as breaking bad.
I thought The Wire was really good as well.

In Better Call Saul, I find myself not wanting to see his shenanigans' with his female lawyer friend, I just want to see him squirm with the really bad guys.

This

[baseline bum]

The first season of Breaking Bad is what pulled me in.
I loved the set up of the characters and all the horrible mistakes they made.
Imo as it went on, it got way too much like a super hero/villian movie, I liked the stupid mistakes. Walter got way too lucky- bad as the series went on, it made it too easy to be incredibly bad imo.

But all in all I have never seen a series as good as breaking bad.
I thought The Wire was really good as well.

In Better Call Saul, I find myself not wanting to see his shenanigans' with his female lawyer friend, I just want to see him squirm with the really bad guys.

I thought it was awesome seeing how Kim made Lalo squirm though, talking Jimmy out of a death sentence.

[Reck]

I thought it was awesome seeing how Kim made Lalo squirm though, talking Jimmy out of a death sentence.

More like he didn't give a shit and left.

[baseline bum]

More like he didn't give a shit and left.

Nah Lalo didn't believe Jimmy's story until Kim jumped in. He would have definitely killed Jimmy if he thought he was lying.

[Reck]

Nah Lalo didn't believe Jimmy's story until Kim jumped in. He would have definitely killed Jimmy if he thought he was lying.

Uhh spoilers for the faggots who haven't watched it?



Yeah that's what I meant, he would have killed him and went about his day all the same as he ended up doing in the end by just leaving them shitting their pants. I was disagreeing with "Lalo was squirming" part of your post.

[Neo.]

reck pgardn and dirksfinale having retarded takes

what a shocker :rolleyes

[Reck]

reck pgardn and dirksfinale having retarded takes

what a shocker :rolleyes

Elaborate.

I'm avocating for Better Call Saul being a great show worth watching just as much as Breaking Bad. I noted how Breaking Bad started slow. Which in fact, it did.

What is your problem exactly?

[Dirks_Finale]

Elaborate.

I'm avocating for Better Call Saul being a great show worth watching just as much as Breaking Bad. I noted how Breaking Bad started slow. Which in fact, it did.

What is your problem exactly?

The ignore function is your friend, in this case :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

The ignore function is your friend, in this case :lol

Only pussies & assholes use the ignore-user feature on an internet message board.

[Dirks_Finale]

Only pussies & assholes use the ignore-user feature on an internet message board.

Someone who would say that is probably on many ignore lists here, :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

Someone who would say that is probably on many ignore lists here, :lol

Because the libtards can't handle the truth.

[Neo.]

:madrun i have garbage takes on just about everything in life and cant back them up with anything except bias, propaganda and lies, so when others clearly disprove me with facts i just put them on ignore :madrun

[Neo.]

Because the libtards can't handle the truth.
probably because youre a flat out terrible human being tbqh

[Neo.]

Elaborate.

I'm avocating for Better Call Saul being a great show worth watching just as much as Breaking Bad. I noted how Breaking Bad started slow. Which in fact, it did.

What is your problem exactly?


I was disagreeing with "Lalo was squirming" part of your post.

it was pretty clear lalo was not in an "idgaf" state. pretty much all throughout bb and bcs its ingrained into the viewers minds that salamancas dont just let stuff go, dont like being "punked" and will look to kill anyone for being even the teeniest tiniest bit of a threat or liar to anyone in their family

his mood changed quickly and he was visibly upset that kim completely destroyed his hunch that jimmy was lying to him, and made him feel more insecure about whether his "house" was truly in order. he knew something was up, was certain it was surrounding jimmy, and suddenly had to rethink everything thanks to kim

[pgardn]

I thought it was awesome seeing how Kim made Lalo squirm though, talking Jimmy out of a death sentence.

Well crap, I have not seen that part yet.
I really wanted them to overlap. So Excellent. Something to look forward to.
I just got done with the episode where Kim is told she is a horrible person by the Old Man with the property.
I also love the little side scenes in all this with the ants on the ice cream and the broken headed Garden Gnome.
The teddy bear from the airplane in the pool with an eye missing and foreshadowing Gus and the explosion from the bell ringer in BBad. Great stuff!

My wife is watching that damn Yellowstone and Im just thinking how awful... a Cowboy Soap Opera...
The contrast in acting and characters writing is just amazing... how bad a series can be.

[pgardn]

Because the libtards can't handle the truth.

The truth of Thread reposting the same pictures over and over again in The Ukraine thread... oh. That real informative shit there.
At least you actually type stupid stuff that is amusing.

[pgardn]

it was pretty clear lalo was not in an "idgaf" state. pretty much all throughout bb and bcs its ingrained into the viewers minds that salamancas dont just let stuff go, dont like being "punked" and will look to kill anyone for being even the teeniest tiniest bit of a threat or liar to anyone in their family

his mood changed quickly and he was visibly upset that kim completely destroyed his hunch that jimmy was lying to him, and made him feel more insecure about whether his "house" was truly in order. he knew something was up, was certain it was surrounding jimmy, and suddenly had to rethink everything thanks to kim

The whole Salamanca stuff is tremendous imo.
I like how they are wildly brutal and yet thoughtful and cunning about business.
Playing these characteristics off of each other makes this really good.

[Reck]

it was pretty clear lalo was not in an "idgaf" state. pretty much all throughout bb and bcs its ingrained into the viewers minds that salamancas dont just let stuff go, dont like being "punked" and will look to kill anyone for being even the teeniest tiniest bit of a threat or liar to anyone in their family

his mood changed quickly and he was visibly upset that kim completely destroyed his hunch that jimmy was lying to him, and made him feel more insecure about whether his "house" was truly in order. he knew something was up, was certain it was surrounding jimmy, and suddenly had to rethink everything thanks to kim

You read that scene totally wrong. lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEhUSaEhFOU

Doesn't look like he's squirming at all. He did leave them shitting their pants, as I said.

[baseline bum]

You read that scene totally wrong. lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEhUSaEhFOU

Doesn't look like he's squirming at all. He did leave them shitting their pants, as I said.

Looks like he read the scene right to me watching that clip again.

[baseline bum]

You read that scene totally wrong. lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEhUSaEhFOU

Doesn't look like he's squirming at all. He did leave them shitting their pants, as I said.

Looks like he read the scene right to me watching that clip again.

[pgardn]

I’m not gonna watch it, not there yet.
Makes no difference. The Salamanca stuff is really good.

[Reck]

Looks like he read the scene right to me watching that clip again.

Lalo is a hitman for the cartel, bro. He could give two shits about Kim and Jimmy.

And to me, it was clear Lalo still didn’t believe Jimmy’s story but thought Kim was right about there being bigger fish to fry.

[baseline bum]

Lalo is a hitman for the cartel, bro. He could give two shits about Kim and Jimmy.

And to me, it was clear Lalo still didn’t believe Jimmy’s story but thought Kim was right about there being bigger fish to fry.

Jimmy would be dead if Lalo still thought he was lying when he walked out.

[Neo.]

You read that scene totally wrong. lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEhUSaEhFOU

Doesn't look like he's squirming at all. He did leave them shitting their pants, as I said.

:rollin

[Millennial_Messiah]

The truth of Thread reposting the same pictures over and over again in The Ukraine thread... oh. That real informative shit there.
At least you actually type stupid stuff that is amusing.

Stupid? I actually travel across the USA like a junior Anthony Bourdain and recommend good restaurants. If you're in the LA metro area I'd recommend heading up the 405 to Calabasas and eating here: https://www.saddlepeaklodge.com/menus/#dinner

I did last summer and even though deltavirus was peaking they weren't requiring masks. Not in LA city limits, though the Persian restaurant I ate there also didn't ask me to wear a mask. Saddle Peak is a great place to eat and spend a little dough.

[pgardn]

Stupid? I actually travel across the USA like a junior Anthony Bourdain and recommend good restaurants. If you're in the LA metro area I'd recommend heading up the 405 to Calabasas and eating here: https://www.saddlepeaklodge.com/menus/#dinner

I did last summer and even though deltavirus was peaking they weren't requiring masks. Not in LA city limits, though the Persian restaurant I ate there also didn't ask me to wear a mask. Saddle Peak is a great place to eat and spend a little dough.

I also said amusing.
And dont go Anthony Bourdain's way.

To the subject.
I typed to soon. They brought Kim back into the picture in a more vigorous manner.
I just dont have time to watch more than an episode or two at a time.
This board does recommend some good stuff imo. Should have never entered the streaming world.
It starts replacing my reading list at night. Not good.

[baseline bum]

Holy fuck now gotta wait until July 11th to see where this goes after that insane episode

[baseline bum]

Is no one watching this any more or something?

[baseline bum]

I really should have seen that coming after what happened to Chuck.

[Neo.]

holy cow its going nuclear

at least we dont have to wait a year or more lol

[baseline bum]

holy cow its going nuclear

at least we dont have to wait a year or more lol

For a split second I thought Howard had brought his own Huell in to beat their asses, but only until I saw the look of terror in their faces and it was obvious who was there.

[140]

This show has been the best thing in tv for years now and personally I like it better than BB. Sucks its ending but cant wait to see how they wrap it all up.

[leemajors]

I'm about to start this season soon, been looking forward to it. Was waiting to rewatch the whole thing with my lady, but we are too far into something else for me to wait

[baseline bum]

I'm about to start this season soon, been looking forward to it. Was waiting to rewatch the whole thing with my lady, but we are too far into something else for me to wait

Well you got till July 11th to catch up on the first 7 episodes. Wonder if Odenkirk's heart attack caused the delay or if Gilligan always planned to split the final season in two. Saw an interview with the guy who plays Howard who said they got lucky Odenkirk had his heart attack right in front of everyone on the set and instead of in his trailer and dying.

[Blake]

Is no one watching this any more or something?

Yeah I'm waiting until July to see the whole thing together

[Neo.]

Well you got till July 11th to catch up on the first 7 episodes. Wonder if Odenkirk's heart attack caused the delay or if Gilligan always planned to split the final season in two. Saw an interview with the guy who plays Howard who said they got lucky Odenkirk had his heart attack right in front of everyone on the set and instead of in his trailer and dying.

i think i read that they divided it so that each half would qualify for emmy awards for separate years or something, idk

[baseline bum]

i think i read that they divided it so that each half would qualify for emmy awards for separate years or something, idk

Last night was like the BCS Ozymandias. Might have even been a better episode. They gotta win something for that.

[leemajors]

Well you got till July 11th to catch up on the first 7 episodes. Wonder if Odenkirk's heart attack caused the delay or if Gilligan always planned to split the final season in two. Saw an interview with the guy who plays Howard who said they got lucky Odenkirk had his heart attack right in front of everyone on the set and instead of in his trailer and dying.

I watched the first two tonight, can't wait to catch up!

[baseline bum]

Got a question for spurraider21 and vy65 since you guys are lawyers. I don't know if you watch this show, but one of the main plots centered on Jimmy (crooked lawyer) doctoring an address from 1261 Rosella Dr to 1216 Rosella Dr in documents his brother Chuck (world class lawyer) was working on to get a bank expansion approved in order to fail the application and embarrass Chuck's firm. Chuck says it's impossible the documents weren't doctored because he could have never confused 1261 for 1216 since 1216 is one after Magna Carta.

Now I recognize this one after Magna Carta kind of memorization technique because I used it extensively to learn kanji when I first started studying Japanese. I'd make stories that were easily memorable. As an example, consider the kanji 伯, which has a meaning kind of like chief or duke in Japanese. It's a combination of the person kanji 人 (which is abbreviated to looking like イ here) and the kanji 白 for white. And I would always use "Mr T" instead of person since person is too generic and not memorable. So the way I'd remember 伯 = person + white is chief is "Mr T should have been chief of the A-Team but they always pick the white guy." So Chuck is doing something similar with one after Magna Carta for 1216 which I think it makes it wholly reasonable there would be no way in hell he would have mixed 1261 Rosella Dr with 1216 Rosella Dr.

I know these kind of techniques have been used for thousands of years to for example memorize speeches and such. But is this a widespread practice among lawyers too? To use these kind of memorization techniques to break things that would be really tough to remember into unrelated things that are much easier to picture? I know you guys just have to remember ridiculous amounts of information.

[spurraider21]

Got a question for spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) and vy65 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11399) since you guys are lawyers. I don't know if you watch this show, but one of the main plots centered on Jimmy (crooked lawyer) doctoring an address from 1261 Rosella Dr to 1216 Rosella Dr in documents his brother Chuck (world class lawyer) was working on to get a bank expansion approved in order to fail the application and embarrass Chuck's firm. Chuck says it's impossible the documents weren't doctored because he could have never confused 1261 for 1216 since 1216 is one after Magna Carta.

Now I recognize this one after Magna Carta kind of memorization technique because I used it extensively to learn kanji when I first started studying Japanese. I'd make stories that were easily memorable. As an example, consider the kanji 伯, which has a meaning kind of like chief or duke in Japanese. It's a combination of the person kanji 人 (which is abbreviated to looking like イ here) and the kanji 白 for white. And I would always use "Mr T" instead of person since person is too generic and not memorable. So the way I'd remember 伯 = person + white is chief is "Mr T should have been chief of the A-Team but they always pick the white guy." So Chuck is doing something similar with one after Magna Carta for 1216 which I think it makes it wholly reasonable there would be no way in hell he would have mixed 1261 Rosella Dr with 1216 Rosella Dr.

I know these kind of techniques have been used for thousands of years to for example memorize speeches and such. But is this a widespread practice among lawyers too? To use these kind of memorization techniques to break things that would be really tough to remember into unrelated things that are much easier to picture? I know you guys just have to remember ridiculous amounts of information.
not that i know of. chuck is just eccentric as fuck

[leemajors]

I am caught up, damn!

[Dick Jones]

Funny how every thread in here it’s always the exact same posters with the garbage takes :lol

[Dick Jones]

At first I didn’t love the Howard death tbh, it felt like a “just kill him so that we don’t have to force him into the plot anymore” type of writer’s room solution. But now I can see some of the directions they can go with this.

[baseline bum]

At first I didn’t love the Howard death tbh, it felt like a “just kill him so that we don’t have to force him into the plot anymore” type of writer’s room solution. But now I can see some of the directions they can go with this.

Thought it made sense, Jimmy hurts everyone around him. Kind of expecting one of the last scenes of the series to be Gene finding Kim working some crappy diner in the middle of nowhere in Nebraska. Hopefully they can make her look as fat as El Camino Todd too.

[SpursforSix]

Just watched all of the new episodes in the last two days. As of now, this is probably in my top 5 shows of all time. Even though some of the things Jimmy pulls off are as unbelievable as Ozark, I never really think about it while watching the show. It's just incredibly well done. Not to mention all the little things. From the opening scenes to each episode, to the camera angles. Even the seemingly insignificant shots on things like a water sprinkler for a few seconds...it just makes the show so good.

[SpursforSix]

Thought it made sense, Jimmy hurts everyone around him. Kind of expecting one of the last scenes of the series to be Gene finding Kim working some crappy diner in the middle of nowhere in Nebraska. Hopefully they can make her look as fat as El Camino Todd too.

That's part of the tension I feel when I watch. Wondering if Kim is even alive at the end.

[baseline bum]

That's part of the tension I feel when I watch. Wondering if Kim is even alive at the end.

The fact that Saul has Francesca go and wait for that phonecall at 3PM on his birthday in that scene where they're destroying all the documents and he pulls whatever he had stashed in the wall (probably the diamonds) tells me Kim is almost certainly alive. There is no one else he'd be sending Francesca to that payphone on his birthday for.

EDIT: Here's the scene. No way Kim is dead.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpMNSIwc_XA

[SpursforSix]

The fact that Saul has Francesca go and wait for that phonecall at 3PM on his birthday in that scene where they're destroying all the documents and he pulls whatever he had stashed in the wall (probably the diamonds) tells me Kim is almost certainly alive. There is no one else he'd be sending Francesca to that payphone on his birthday for.

EDIT: Here's the scene. No way Kim is dead.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpMNSIwc_XA

Sorry...I don't see it. Can you explain? How do you know that it's not Jimmy that's going to be making the call?

[baseline bum]

Sorry...I don't see it. Can you explain? How do you know that it's not Jimmy that's going to be making the call?

In the episode where Jimmy and Kim get married you can see on Jimmy's driver's license his birthdate is November 12, 1960. I don't see why Saul would call Francesca on his birthday at 3PM. Only person in the world who gives a shit about Saul and would call him on his birthday is Kim.

https://i.ibb.co/J2J1fS6/jimmy-bday.jpg

[SpursforSix]

In the episode where Jimmy and Kim get married you can see on Jimmy's driver's license his birthdate is November 12, 1960. I don't see why Saul would call Francesca on his birthday at 3PM. Only person in the world who gives a shit about Saul and would call him on his birthday is Kim.



Yeah...but it's someone calling Francesca. Why couldn't that be Jimmy? I think you're probably right though.

And how the f did you remember Jimmy's b-date?

[baseline bum]

Yeah...but it's someone calling Francesca. Why couldn't that be Jimmy? I think you're probably right though.

And how the f did you remember Jimmy's b-date?

Being that it's on Jimmy's birthday it's almost certain he's sending Francesca in his place to receive a call meant for him. If it wasn't on November 12th I could maybe consider it was Jimmy making a call to Francesca about say recovering some money for him or something but none of that would require waiting for Jimmy's 50th birthday (the ending of Breaking Bad takes place in 2010). Not like he's getting money from Chuck's estate on his 50th birthday since Chuck gave him the $5,000 just to shut him up and not like he's getting anything from his parents on his 50th birthday since it's implied his parents didn't have anything because his dad was so bad with getting scammed and lost the store. I can't see any scenario where it's anyone other than Kim making that call.

[SpursforSix]

Being that it's on Jimmy's birthday it's almost certain he's sending Francesca in his place to receive a call meant for him. If it wasn't on November 12th I could maybe consider it was Jimmy making a call to Francesca about say recovering some money for him or something but none of that would require waiting for Jimmy's 50th birthday (the ending of Breaking Bad takes place in 2010). Not like he's getting money from Chuck's estate on his 50th birthday since Chuck gave him the $5,000 just to shut him up and not like he's getting anything from his parents on his 50th birthday since it's implied his parents didn't have anything because his dad was so bad with getting scammed and lost the store. I can't see any scenario where it's anyone other than Kim making that call.

I do think you're right. Although the show does throw out a lot of twists. But ultimately, saving Kim and possibly setting her up with some money would make sense. She's clearly the most altruistic person left in the show. It would make a lot of sense to keep her alive. No idea what Gilligan's doing next but she'd be an interesting lead character with the right cast around her.

[baseline bum]

I do think you're right. Although the show does throw out a lot of twists. But ultimately, saving Kim and possibly setting her up with some money would make sense. She's clearly the most altruistic person left in the show. It would make a lot of sense to keep her alive. No idea what Gilligan's doing next but she'd be an interesting lead character with the right cast around her.

Kim and altruistic? Don't see that at all. But in Breaking Bad Saul says he's had a client previously who used the vacuum repairman's service and guessing that's going to be Kim. Especially now that the vet is selling his black book and Saul has $7 million coming back to him since Lalo is officially dead before his trial date and thus the bail money will be returned to the person who paid it. I bet he gives her at least half of it before she goes on the run. Would explain his mansion and golden toilet too lol.

[SpursforSix]

Kim and altruistic? Don't see that at all. But in Breaking Bad Saul says he's had a client previously who used the vacuum repairman's service and guessing that's going to be Kim. Especially now that the vet is selling his black book and Saul has $7 million coming back to him since Lalo is officially dead before his trial date and thus the bail money will be returned to the person who paid it. I bet he gives her at least half of it before she goes on the run. Would explain his mansion and golden toilet too lol.

Yeah...I think she is. Even though she's obviously conflicted, she does seem to want to help clients that don't have the means for good representation. She's taking a huge pay cut to do so. Yeah...I think Saul ultimately buys the black book. It would explain all of his connections in BB.

[baseline bum]

Finally back tomorrow

[baseline bum]

Wonder if they'll do a Gene episode to fuck with everyone expecting to find out what happens after Howard's mind got blown

[Neo.]

well that was a crazy way to get started back up

[baseline bum]

well that was a crazy way to get started back up

So I wonder if Saul buy that mansion with the money he makes from Walt or if Jimmy bought that mansion with the $7 million bond he's due to be refunded for Lalo. I was sure Kim was going to use the vacuum guy to escape but now doesn't seem that's needed unless she fucks up when talking to the police and they make her a suspect in Howard's death. We know she doesn't die since right before using vacuum guy Saul tells Francseca wait for that phone call at a pay phone on his birthday which can only be from Kim since no one else gives a shit about him. Glad the writers are keeping us guessing.

[Neo.]

So I wonder if Saul buy that mansion with the money he makes from Walt or if Jimmy bought that mansion with the $7 million bond he's due to be refunded for Lalo. I was sure Kim was going to use the vacuum guy to escape but now doesn't seem that's needed unless she fucks up when talking to the police and they make her a suspect in Howard's death. We know she doesn't die since right before using vacuum guy Saul tells Francseca wait for that phone call at a pay phone on his birthday which can only be from Kim since no one else gives a shit about him. Glad the writers are keeping us guessing.

well shouldnt sandpiper be settling any episode now as well? i figured that would be the foundation of his wealth

[baseline bum]

well shouldnt sandpiper be settling any episode now as well? i figured that would be the foundation of his wealth

What was he due, like $1.5 million from that? Maybe he doesn't get the $7 million because the DeGuzman name was fake but I think Jimmy should be entitled to that. Wonder if the Salamanca twins will be back to come claim it or if they'll forget it.

[Neo.]

What was he due, like $1.5 million from that? Maybe he doesn't get the $7 million because the DeGuzman name was fake but I think Jimmy should be entitled to that. Wonder if the Salamanca twins will be back to come claim it or if they'll forget it.

the only one of the cartel who knew lalo survived the attack at his home was hector, so i doubt they will know anything about that money if it comes up

im wondering how they will handle hectors knowledge of lalo being alive, after what happened in this ep

[Proxy]

lmao, wtf is that tunnel gun? this last season sucks as bad as BB's last season. tunnel gun has the same energy as pocket sand. Lalo wouldn't have let Gus do that, but Lalo wouldn't have gotten into the compound either... but Mike wouldn't had been such a cuck as a security guard all season either

https://c.tenor.com/XiAJG4wOWTYAAAAC/king-of-the-hill-dale-gribble.gif

[baseline bum]

About fucking time Kim.

[baseline bum]

Well with the Jimmy storyline now wrapped and the next episode titled Nippy, sounds like it's going to be entirely a Gene episode in cold ass Nebraska.

[Neo.]

was kinda cool how it seemed to end on the day he met walter in bb s2, outfit was basically the same and on the phone he was talking about another public masturbator lol

[baseline bum]

was kinda cool how it seemed to end on the day he met walter in bb s2, outfit was basically the same and on the phone he was talking about another public masturbator lol

I thought that at first too but turns out that scene was likely only a year after Kim bails since his LYWRUP license plate had a November 05 expiration date on it. Whereas the Breaking Bad timeline starts in 08.

[baseline bum]

was kinda cool how it seemed to end on the day he met walter in bb s2, outfit was basically the same and on the phone he was talking about another public masturbator lol

But yeah I was thinking the same and scanning the room for Walter in his DB Cooper outfit when Saul arrived to the office. But then went back and saw this license plate with the NOV 05 expiration date on his Caddy as he was driving to work:

https://i.ibb.co/GtKVfgM/lwyrup.jpg

[baseline bum]

Love that Jimmy mentioned HHM getting a new trashcan when they came in though, since the very first scene in the series that Kim showed up in was right after Jimmy kicked the shit out of that trashcan, then after sharing that cigarette Kim went in and cleaned up after him. Just like when Jimmy was dying with Howard's wife who was basically accusing Jimmy of Howard's death Kim swooped in to clean his shit up again by claiming to catch Howard snorting something off his desk a year ago, which when combined with Cliff Main's refusal to exonerate Howard's alleged drug use finally convinced the wife to buy into the lie about Howard. And then of course Kim jumps Jimmy the parking lot after like she wanted to do him there just like every other time they pull off a big scam. With Kim no longer there to clean up after Jimmy hard to see how he doesn't die at the end of the series though.

[Neo.]

But yeah I was thinking the same and scanning the room for Walter in his DB Cooper outfit when Saul arrived to the office. But then went back and saw this license plate with the NOV 05 expiration date on his Caddy as he was driving to work:

https://i.ibb.co/GtKVfgM/lwyrup.jpg

ah nice catch

[leemajors]

bout to watch

[leemajors]

Great ep, but it seems like it could have just ended there. Interested to see what happens the next 4.

[ChumpDumper]

Great ep, but it seems like it could have just ended there. Interested to see what happens the next 4.

With the time jump, I assume the final episodes will be pretty Gene-heavy along with whatever the hell Kim was doing for that decade.

Since Walter died and Jesse went free I think it would be interesting to see Jimmy do at least some time in prison to see how he operates in there and maybe use the law (with help from Kim) to get himself out.

[baseline bum]

With the time jump, I assume the final episodes will be pretty Gene-heavy along with whatever the hell Kim was doing for that decade.

Since Walter died and Jesse went free I think it would be interesting to see Jimmy do at least some time in prison to see how he operates in there and maybe use the law (with help from Kim) to get himself out.

I think if Jimmy does time it'll be for murdering or attempting to murder that taxi driver who sounds like he's about to shake Gene down by what we heard in one of the trailers released a couple of weeks back.

[ChumpDumper]

I think if Jimmy does time it'll be for murdering or attempting to murder that taxi driver who sounds like he's about to shake Gene down by what we heard in one of the trailers released a couple of weeks back.

Not sure that dude would force his hand that drastically; maybe he's just forced to leave at that point. Jimmy/Saul/Gene is all about manipulation of people and systems and survival not necessarily through direct action. Seems like there is a big break in character coming up for Gene judging from the preview, so we should find out pretty quickly.

[baseline bum]

Not sure that dude would force his hand that drastically; maybe he's just forced to leave at that point. Jimmy/Saul/Gene is all about manipulation of people and systems and survival not necessarily through direct action. Seems like there is a big break in character coming up for Gene judging from the preview, so we should find out pretty quickly.

Gene killed the idea of moving again when vacuum guy told him the fee would double. There was a teaser a couple of weeks ago with Gene telling taxi driver not to get greedy and come back for more a second time, so it sounds like he's getting shaken down by him. Firsthand violence not being Jimmy's thing is why I expect him to either die or get caught trying to take care of taxi driver himself.

[leemajors]

With the time jump, I assume the final episodes will be pretty Gene-heavy along with whatever the hell Kim was doing for that decade.

Since Walter died and Jesse went free I think it would be interesting to see Jimmy do at least some time in prison to see how he operates in there and maybe use the law (with help from Kim) to get himself out.

The events of the episode made the jump slip my mind!

[baseline bum]

With the time jump, I assume the final episodes will be pretty Gene-heavy along with whatever the hell Kim was doing for that decade.

Since Walter died and Jesse went free I think it would be interesting to see Jimmy do at least some time in prison to see how he operates in there and maybe use the law (with help from Kim) to get himself out.

The next episode being titled Nippy is pretty much telling us it'll be a Gene episode.

[ChumpDumper]

Gene killed the idea of moving again when vacuum guy told him the fee would double. There was a teaser a couple of weeks ago with Gene telling taxi driver not to get greedy and come back for more a second time, so it sounds like he's getting shaken down by him. Firsthand violence not being Jimmy's thing is why I expect him to either die or get caught trying to take care of taxi driver himself.

I think my new fantasy is that Jimmy gets fed up with living on the lam as Gene and exposes himself to give himself some agency and a legal chance as Saul. Like who is left alive to testify against him? Huell? Also I still want to see skinny Huell walking out of the safe house in the same clothes he wore going in and asking people what day it is.

[baseline bum]

I think my new fantasy is that Jimmy gets fed up with living on the lam as Gene and exposes himself to give himself some agency and a legal chance as Saul. Like who is left alive to testify against him? Huell? Also I still want to see skinny Huell walking out of the safe house in the same clothes he wore going in and asking people what day it is.

Would be an interesting way to go but Francesca would be a huge liability in that case. Skyler too.

[ChumpDumper]

Would be an interesting way to go but Francesca would be a huge liability in that case. Skyler too.
Even if Skyler is in prison, it might be easier for her to take the 5th because of further dirt Saul might have on her.

Francesca would actually be kind of a fun final adversary along with the government. There are all kinds of things Saul could bring up to impugn her on the stand. Her cooperation might depend on what Saul set up for her connected to the card he gave her right before he skipped town.

[leemajors]

I'm rewatching the show with my lady while I am watching the current season, and I had forgot a lot of details (just finished s1 and one ep into s2). Like Colin Robinson from What We Do In the Shadows being in the end of the first season and the beginning of the second :lol

[baseline bum]

Wow that was a wild episode and something completely unexpected. Damn I'm sad there will only be three more episodes of this.

[baseline bum]

Damn, was sad to see that phone call on Jimmy's birthday that Francesca was supposed to wait for was from him and not Kim. So much for him going to Nebraska to be with Kim. She's gotta be miserable selling sprinklers in Florida.

[ChumpDumper]

Goodness this is bleak.

[baseline bum]

So looks like we'll see Kim again next episode since it's called Waterworks and Kim works at Palm Coast Sprinklers.

[leemajors]

So looks like we'll see Kim again next episode since it's called Waterworks and Kim works at Palm Coast Sprinklers.

I'm looking forward to that possibility and cringing in advance.

[baseline bum]

Wild episode tonight. Jeez Kim looked like shit. LOL con man Albuquerque.

[baseline bum]

I loved how right after her coworker told depressed Florida Kim "Time to sing!" she went back to Albuquerque to sing to Howard's wife.

[baseline bum]

Cancer guy that Saul was robbing had the same $737,000 in his portfolio that Walt said he needed to be able to make before dying.

https://i.ibb.co/VNC15yh/737.png

[baseline bum]

LOL it was like Kim was fucking Don Wachtell.

https://i.ibb.co/pWyhyDs/yup.png

[leemajors]

LOL it was like Kim was fucking Don Wachtell.

https://i.ibb.co/pWyhyDs/yup.png

Cool that they got another Mr Show alum in, but wasn't that dude at Jan 6?

[SpursforSix]

I'm an episode behind so I haven't dug into the last few posts. But to me, the B&W is unnecessary and doesn't add anything. I suppose it was important in the first few shows and maybe that's why they stuck with it.

[baseline bum]

I'm an episode behind so I haven't dug into the last few posts. But to me, the B&W is unnecessary and doesn't add anything. I suppose it was important in the first few shows and maybe that's why they stuck with it.

B&W is showing how miserable Saul is, all the color is out of his life.

[spurraider21]

Is no one watching this any more or something?
i was behind. caught up just in time yesterday

[spurraider21]

overall have been a huge fan of this season... but 2 things havent sit well with me

1) kim leaving jimmy after the howard incident makes sense, recognizing they're bad for each other. but... her excuse for why she didnt tell jimmy about lalo didnt make a lot of sense to me, and i dont know why she felt she had to give up the law. she was feeling a lot of professional satisfaction doing defense work, was actually doing something positive, to counteract what she had been doing with jimmy. so the way they had her departure done felt a bit off

2) jimmy being so reckless in going back to the cancer patient's house doesnt make any sense. the entire purpose of the con was for the victim not to know about it. even if his partner wasnt a dipshit, this guy was going to report the broken class, shit moved around in the attic, drinks poured, etc. and they didnt really give any real motivation for it.

[baseline bum]

overall have been a huge fan of this season... but 2 things havent sit well with me

1) kim leaving jimmy after the howard incident makes sense, recognizing they're bad for each other. but... her excuse for why she didnt tell jimmy about lalo didnt make a lot of sense to me, and i dont know why she felt she had to give up the law. she was feeling a lot of professional satisfaction doing defense work, was actually doing something positive, to counteract what she had been doing with jimmy. so the way they had her departure done felt a bit off


She wasn't all that committed to pro bono work though. Look how quickly she threw away that meeting Cliff Main set up for her to get huge funding she could have used to recruit more elite lawyers to her cause once Jimmy told her about Judge Casamiro's broken arm. She immediately turned around and headed back because the most important thing to her was the scams she runs with Jimmy. Also Jimmy was willing to let it go, Kim is the one who really pushed the final scam on Howard to happen, leading to his death. Now she feels so guilty she can't make her own decisions any more. See the Miracle Whip, or the vanilla vs strawberry ice cream.



2) jimmy being so reckless in going back to the cancer patient's house doesnt make any sense. the entire purpose of the con was for the victim not to know about it. even if his partner wasnt a dipshit, this guy was going to report the broken class, shit moved around in the attic, drinks poured, etc. and they didnt really give any real motivation for it.

I think that's the point. Jimmy couldn't give up the scam either even when it wasn't feasible to do. He slipped up and it's going to cost him. Just like when he worked with Walt after Mike told him it was too dangerous. It's amazing how many times Mike's advice was disregarded.

[spurraider21]

She wasn't all that committed to pro bono work though. Look how quickly she threw away that meeting Cliff Main set up for her to get huge funding she could have used to recruit more elite lawyers to her cause once Jimmy told her about Judge Casamiro's broken arm. She immediately turned around and headed back because the most important thing to her was the scams she runs with Jimmy. Also Jimmy was willing to let it go, Kim is the one who really pushed the final scam on Howard to happen, leading to his death. Now she feels so guilty she can't make her own decisions any more. See the Miracle Whip, or the vanilla vs strawberry ice cream.
well yeah, thats where just detaching herself from jimmy would make sense. she stressed how they were bad for each other. she could have left jimmy, moved to a different state, and just practiced law doing public defense work elsewhere. without jimmy hanging over her head, she would have managed. whats to stop her from conning some customer into an unnecessarily expensive sprinkler for a higher commission if she was just that unable to control impulses? get away from jimmy, and stick to what you do well.


I think that's the point. Jimmy couldn't give up the scam either even when it wasn't feasible to do. He slipped up and it's going to cost him. Just like when he worked with Walt after Mike told him it was too dangerous. It's amazing how many times Mike's advice was disregarded.
lol not taking mike's advice there is not remotely on the same plane as breaking and entering into a house that is completely antithetical to the entire con you've drummed up (them not knowing they were robbed). helping himself to drinks in the guys' house? re-arranging shit in the attic? that has nothing to do with "not giving up the scam." it was a completely out of character moment. maybe its a borderline cry for help with him wanting to get caught, but yeah, i dno.

to your own point above, jimmy knew when to let go of the Howard con until kim intervened. but here he was the one not recognizing to just move on from this one mark? didnt make sense

[leemajors]

well yeah, thats where just detaching herself from jimmy would make sense. she stressed how they were bad for each other. she could have left jimmy, moved to a different state, and just practiced law doing public defense work elsewhere. without jimmy hanging over her head, she would have managed. whats to stop her from conning some customer into an unnecessarily expensive sprinkler for a higher commission if she was just that unable to control impulses? get away from jimmy, and stick to what you do well.


lol not taking mike's advice there is not remotely on the same plane as breaking and entering into a house that is completely antithetical to the entire con you've drummed up (them not knowing they were robbed). helping himself to drinks in the guys' house? re-arranging shit in the attic? that has nothing to do with "not giving up the scam." it was a completely out of character moment. maybe its a borderline cry for help with him wanting to get caught, but yeah, i dno.

to your own point above, jimmy knew when to let go of the Howard con until kim intervened. but here he was the one not recognizing to just move on from this one mark? didnt make sense

Cinnabon has to be taking its toll, tbh

[spurraider21]

Cinnabon has to be taking its toll, tbh
that show makes me crave cinnabon tbh

ill get a chance next time i fly back to LA though. most common route to get there from here is to take the regional airport to charlotte, then fly charlotte to LA. charlotte airport has a cinnabon :lol

[baseline bum]

well yeah, thats where just detaching herself from jimmy would make sense. she stressed how they were bad for each other. she could have left jimmy, moved to a different state, and just practiced law doing public defense work elsewhere. without jimmy hanging over her head, she would have managed. whats to stop her from conning some customer into an unnecessarily expensive sprinkler for a higher commission if she was just that unable to control impulses? get away from jimmy, and stick to what you do well.


She couldn't even make decisions because of her guilt for getting Howard murdered. How is that going to work as a lawyer? It's like you're telling her to not feel responsibility to framing a great man and leading to his death. A man who paid for her law school and was nothing but great to her until Jimmy screwed him over with his antics at Davis & Main.

[baseline bum]

that show makes me crave cinnabon tbh

ill get a chance next time i fly back to LA though. most common route to get there from here is to take the regional airport to charlotte, then fly charlotte to LA. charlotte airport has a cinnabon :lol

LOL Louis CK's bit on Cinnabon where he said they should just call them Fat Faggot Treats covered in hot cum.

[baseline bum]

Unexpected ending, but I guess he was happier doing 86 years in a prison where he's treated like royalty by the other inmates than doing 7 and having to work another Cinnabon job.

[Monostradamus]

That’s a top 5 best series finale ever. Definitely better than Breaking Bad’s finale.

Choosing between BB vs BCS is like choosing between Godfather and Godfather II. There’s no wrong answer. It might be recency bias but I think BCS is the superior show.

[Monostradamus]

Unexpected ending, but I guess he was happier doing 86 years in a prison where he's treated like royalty by the other inmates than doing 7 and having to work another Cinnabon job.
Knowing Kim is back in his life made it worth it for him.

[baseline bum]

That’s a top 5 best series finale ever. Definitely better than Breaking Bad’s finale.

Choosing between BB vs BCS is like choosing between Godfather and Godfather II. There’s no wrong answer. It might be recency bias but I think BCS is the superior show.

I still gotta take Sopranos as my favorite series final ever. Tony getting whacked was predictable enough, but by faggy Patsy Parisi? That story twist blew me away.

[baseline bum]

Knowing Kim is back in his life made it worth it for him.

Is she? IDK Kim's going to be too broke to come visit him once Cheryl wins the civil suit against her.

[baseline bum]

https://i.ibb.co/r3QghtZ/01.webp

https://i.ibb.co/mX29fYs/02.webp

https://i.ibb.co/sHtBXsQ/03.webp

[baseline bum]

No exit for Jimmy now

https://i.ibb.co/7bPtSVj/04.webp

[DeadlyDynasty]

That’s a top 5 best series finale ever. Definitely better than Breaking Bad’s finale.

Choosing between BB vs BCS is like choosing between Godfather and Godfather II. There’s no wrong answer. It might be recency bias but I think BCS is the superior show.
Gotta go with BCS because there’s no Skylar White

[Monostradamus]

Gotta go with BCS because there’s no Skylar White
I do love that Kim proves the “hAtInG sKyLaR iS sExIsT” discourse was stupid, and Vince Gilligan corrected that mistake with Kim. Despite being in a similar position, she acts like the polar opposite of Skylar and everybody loved her for it.

[Trainwreck2100]

Of all the characters returning from BB I didn't expect to see Marie My only real issue was the idea that Hamlin's wife would have been able to take kim for everything when bankruptcy is a thing and as lawyers they would all know that. I liked BB more but that's just a personal opinion

[Neo.]

as much a skylar got on my nerves, tbh if skylar wasnt so naggy and obnoxious, walter may not have been so unsatisfied with his life to turn to making meth. right from the get-go, it made clear how controlling she was in the very first scene by forcing him to eat veggie bacon, nagging him over taking his pills and leaving his second job (which was a huge sacrifice on his part to even do) on time all in the span of about 1 minute. then instead of welcoming him to his surprise party, she quietly pesters him more. so i personally felt it added to his choice to break bad.

regardless, kim >>> skylar

[spurraider21]

as much a skylar got on my nerves, tbh if skylar wasnt so naggy and obnoxious, walter may not have been so unsatisfied with his life to turn to making meth. right from the get-go, it made clear how controlling she was in the very first scene by forcing him to eat veggie bacon, nagging him over taking his pills and leaving his second job (which was a huge sacrifice on his part to even do) on time all in the span of about 1 minute. then instead of welcoming him to his surprise party, she quietly pesters him more. so i personally felt it added to his choice to break bad.

regardless, kim >>> skylar
kim and skylar arent comparable. you guys are acting like they were going for the same thing and just executed better with kim. they are radically different characters. kim always enjoined the cons even from the first one as viktor and whatever her dutch name was. and look at the howard one... she was the one pushing things forward. she enjoyed that side of jimmy

skylar never enjoyed walt's side business, was never really a part of it. only got involved to launder basically to protect him from going to prison, not out of her love of the drug business

[Neo.]

kim and skylar arent comparable. you guys are acting like they were going for the same thing and just executed better with kim. they are radically different characters. kim always enjoined the cons even from the first one as viktor and whatever her dutch name was. and look at the howard one... she was the one pushing things forward. she enjoyed that side of jimmy

skylar never enjoyed walt's side business, was never really a part of it. only got involved to launder basically to protect him from going to prison, not out of her love of the drug business

i never said anything like that. in fact, my post was to defend how skylar was done in the show. i felt her being the way she was, is a hugely important part of the storyline, and anna gunn played her role incredibly well.

i just personally liked kim's character better, she was very likable, while skylar was not (as was clearly the intent by the writers of each of their characters)

[spurraider21]

i never said anything like that. in fact, my post was to defend how skylar was done in the show. i felt her being the way she was, is a hugely important part of the storyline, and anna gunn played her role incredibly well.

i just personally liked kim's character better, she was very likable, while skylar was not (as was clearly the intent by the writers of each of their characters)
i was responding more to mono i guess, with his comment about how the writers learned from skylar and improved with kim

characters being likeable =/= the characters being compelling

king joffrey, janice soprano were both extremely unlikeable characters who were also good characters in their respective shows. i think skylar was ok, but not an amazing character. i think people just got really mad at "i fucked ted" tbh :lol

the only "bad" character i can remember in breaking bad was probably marie. just boring. the whole kleptomania thing had nothing to do with the show. none of her side stories mattered.

[Monostradamus]

only got involved to launder basically to protect him from going to prison, not out of her love of the drug business
I am completely baffled that you came to this conclusion. Skylar very obviously wanted in on the drug business, she changes her mind when Walt made it clear that she couldn’t control him in that arena.

[Monostradamus]

On top of that Skylar reacts by acting irrationally and with a nauseating amount of self-pity, accepts zero responsibility for her actions, and faces virtually no consequences for what she did.

To pretend like there is no way to compare Kim and Skylar is just stupid as well. There’s very obvious points of comparison between the two.

[spurraider21]

I am completely baffled that you came to this conclusion. Skylar very obviously wanted in on the drug business, she changes her mind when Walt made it clear that she couldn’t control him in that arena.
:lol what?

From my memory skylar wanted no part of any of it. Left walt, etc. only got invested when they needed to use the money for hanks medical bills

[Monostradamus]

:lol what?

From my memory skylar wanted no part of any of it. Left walt, etc. only got invested when they needed to use the money for hanks medical bills
That got her in the door, but she was 100% enthusiastic about it at that point until she overstepped her bounds and Walt put her in her place, it’s completely disingenuous to act like she was just begrudgingly forced into it the entire time.

[leemajors]

That got her in the door, but she was 100% enthusiastic about it at that point until she overstepped her bounds and Walt put her in her place, it’s completely disingenuous to act like she was just begrudgingly forced into it the entire time.

Yeah she was all about it for a bit, enjoyed the challenge thoroughly. Made him buy the car wash, loved tormenting the owner to sell it while being the wettest blanket of all time. I do not like the character at all, but Anna Gunn did a great job.

[Monostradamus]

And Kim is definitely a course correction as there isn’t a single likable female character in BB until what, Andrea? Gilligan clearly saw the criticism.

[spurraider21]

That got her in the door, but she was 100% enthusiastic about it at that point until she overstepped her bounds and Walt put her in her place, it’s completely disingenuous to act like she was just begrudgingly forced into it the entire time.


Yeah she was all about it for a bit, enjoyed the challenge thoroughly. Made him buy the car wash, loved tormenting the owner to sell it while being the wettest blanket of all time. I do not like the character at all, but Anna Gunn did a great job.
guess i gotta rewatch the show. i do remember skylar insisting on the car wash but i dont recall that being her going against walt, but rather saul. saul wanted laser tag. skylar said the car wash makes more sense because it would be more believable, and iirc walt agreed. they only differed as far as how to negotiate with bogdon. maybe im misremembering... but i dont recall skylar wanting to be the queenpin or anything :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

guess i gotta rewatch the show. i do remember skylar insisting on the car wash but i dont recall that being her going against walt, but rather saul. saul wanted laser tag. skylar said the car wash makes more sense because it would be more believable, and iirc walt agreed. they only differed as far as how to negotiate with bogdon. maybe im misremembering... but i dont recall skylar wanting to be the queenpin or anything :lol

her thinking she was a boss nearly got her family killed when dealing with lydia. They'd be dead if not for Todd of all people

[spurraider21]

her thinking she was a boss nearly got her family killed when dealing with lydia. They'd be dead if not for Todd of all people
how was that her thinking she was boss?

either i legit dont remember some of these plot points or i feel like there's a lot of revisionist history going on here

wasnt her only interaction with lydia at the car wash when she told her to stay away? at a time where Walt was out of the business and had turned over the cooking operation to todd? in what was is that her thinking she's boss... of a nonexistent drug operation

[Trainwreck2100]

how was that her thinking she was boss?

either i legit dont remember some of these plot points or i feel like there's a lot of revisionist history going on here

wasnt her only interaction with lydia at the car wash when she told her to stay away? at a time where Walt was out of the business and had turned over the cooking operation to todd? in what was is that her thinking she's boss... of a nonexistent drug operation
Not the boss, a boss, she had a fundamental misunderstanding of who she was dealing with. It was that one interaction that led Lydia to believe she was a threat.

[baseline bum]

Not the boss, a boss, she had a fundamental misunderstanding of who she was dealing with. It was that one interaction that led Lydia to believe she was a threat.

IDK Lydia seemed like she just wanted to off anyone who had seen her.

[spurraider21]

Not the boss, a boss, she had a fundamental misunderstanding of who she was dealing with. It was that one interaction that led Lydia to believe she was a threat.
walt told her she was a business associate of his, nothing more. from skyler's perspective, this was the one brief window of the show where they possibly could have gone on to live a life of normalcy. walt was out of the business. wanting to purge out all meth elements from their lives was rational. and tbh, it worked. lydia didnt come groveling back to walt after that. shit went haywire because of hank finding out and jesse finding out about the ricin.

lydia wanted to kill everyone who could possibly connect back to her, including the list of people that walt arranged to kill in prison. she wasnt out to kill skyler out of vengeance for that interaction :lol... she probably would have tried to have Walt killed too if he wasnt MIA by then

[spurraider21]

both walt and jimmy are in their own ways, antiheroes. they are bad people but the audience is behind them and cheering for them. walt is magnitudes worse

people dont like skyler because she was pitted as an adversary to our protagonist, whereas kim was an enabler/partner/accomplice of jimmy. skyler was called naggy or whiny because she didnt like her husband having a secret double life, being a serial liar, and being in the meth business. i dno. i dont think skyler's character was great (though the acting performance was usually quite good), but i do feel like a lot of the vitriol is pretty unwarranted

skyler was often hypocritical whereas kim was more straightforward, i can grant that. i think skyler is more comparable to chuck than kim

[leemajors]

both walt and jimmy are in their own ways, antiheroes. they are bad people but the audience is behind them and cheering for them. walt is magnitudes worse

people dont like skyler because she was pitted as an adversary to our protagonist, whereas kim was an enabler/partner/accomplice of jimmy. skyler was called naggy or whiny because she didnt like her husband having a secret double life, being a serial liar, and being in the meth business. i dno. i dont think skyler's character was great (though the acting performance was usually quite good), but i do feel like a lot of the vitriol is pretty unwarranted

skyler was often hypocritical whereas kim was more straightforward, i can grant that. i think skyler is more comparable to chuck than kim

:tu

[spurraider21]

And Kim is definitely a course correction as there isn’t a single likable female character in BB until what, Andrea? Gilligan clearly saw the criticism.
i mean these shows dont have that many women in the main cast. its basically just skyler and marie in breaking bad. who else is there as a main character? lydia who comes in near the end of the show? jane was good in her short time. deeply flawed, but a fun character in the show.

and how many in BCS? its basically just Kim and like... Francesca :lol

i think marie was a legitimately bad character, and i already went into that above. we hate skyler because she was an adversary of our protagonist, and we like kim because she was the partner/confidant of our protagonist

imo

[Neo.]

we hate skyler because she was an adversary of our protagonist, and we like kim because she was the partner/confidant of our protagonist

imo

being an adversary doesnt automatically make someone unlikable. most everyone loved gus despite him being an adversary of walt.

[140]

I honestly never cared for Walt as a character/protagonist and will go as far as to say that I watched BB not because but despite of him - and even I thought Skyler was an insufferable bitch tbh :lol

[baseline bum]

I didn't like Skyler in Season 1 when she was doing shit like jerking Walt off on his birthday while browsing ebay or trying to bully him into getting chemo without listening to his concerns, but found her a pretty sympathetic character after that.

[Monostradamus]

I had way more sympathy for Skylar early on when she was innocent, and didn’t mind her character up to that point. “Nagging at Walt” didn’t bother me at all as she was the voice of reason. But once she got involved in the business and clearly enjoyed what she was up to, to then act like a victim when she couldn’t get her way, that’s what soured me. She was complicit and deserved far worse than what little happened to her.

Now Flynn on the other hand, he was a little dickhead and easily the most annoying character in the GilliganVerse.

[spurraider21]

I didn't like Skyler in Season 1 when she was doing shit like jerking Walt off on his birthday while browsing ebay or trying to bully him into getting chemo without listening to his concerns, but found her a pretty sympathetic character after that.
she definitely didnt give handjobs as good as her sister

[leemajors]

Rhea Seehorn got screwed at the Emmys. I guess she didn't scream enough?