Who is your candidate for rookie of the year?

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Discuss

[mcornelio]

Fransisco Garcia Because Hes Dominican

[timvp]

Fransisco Garcia Because Hes Dominican

:tu

[ZStomp]

Holy shit..the season hasn't even started. :lmao

[NZHayden]

^thats what i thought, oh well ive gone for the local in oberto

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Holy shit..the season hasn't even started. :lmao

That's the point of the poll. Maybe there could be even a vBookie event on this, let's say, you bet on Macijauskas now, an unproven player in the NBA, with a whole season in front of him where everything can happen (e.g. injuries). If he wins the Rookie of the Year award by the end of the season, you could win many vDollars!

[NZHayden]

good idea left hand, the odds for it would be huge

[Boo]

oberto? wow.

[Walton Buys Off Me]

Chris Paul

[ObiwanGinobili]

Oberto.
i'm a homer.

[Boo]

why arent there any other players sean may raymond felton williams etc.?

[jermaine7fan]

Just how good is Oberto supposed to be? I haven't heard much about him.

[Chris]

Just how good is Oberto supposed to be? I haven't heard much about him.

Well he won a gold medal for Argentina during the most recent Olympics for starters.

[Vashner]

WAIT till they actually play some games...

[midgetonadonkey]

I think it will be Marvin Williams. If the Hawks get 30 wins this season, and he is a big part of that, I think he can take the award.

[mattyc]

Bogut.

Represent.

[spursupporter]

not likely to be oberto, he is not a starter so his stats probably will lose to other rookie starters

[Boo]

Just how good is Oberto supposed to be? I haven't heard much about him.

He's a center from Argentina that the spurs got in free agency.

He's about 30ish.

The only reason he's on the poll is because he's a spur so it's not like he's got a chance to REALLY make rookie of the year.

[xcoriate]

Bogut

I expect NZ support :)

[ZStomp]

David Lee

[polandprzem]

Bogut or Granger

[Kamnik]

macijauskas could be right up there

he is playing on a team where he can get a lot of chances and he was one of the best young players in Europe (but with shit loads of experience and he is just 25)

[AFE7FATMAN]

Jasikevicius - Should have been in the NBA for several years already.

Will lead the Pacers to the Promise Land.
I like Jarrett Jack but he will be a real rookie, ups and downs.
Bogurt will get the most exposure until at least the All Star Game


Pacers to the promised land I meant the Finals where the spurs will kick
their butts in 5 games.

[DieMrBond]

Id go for either of the two new bobcats - they will get serious playing time (unlike Oberto, who wont get SERIOUS minutes) and they have a good young team going on over there... maybes its just me, but i wouldnt mind seeing the bobcats make the playoffs.... i think they are going about things in quite a nice/successful way.

BUT it will probably be bogut or williams (unfortunately)

oh wait, im australian. yeah, bogut will win hands down, the rest all suck... *cough*

[The Artest Factor]

From what I've heard, Oberto play's like a soft, Euro version of Tony Massenberg, with slightly less athleticism.

I'm going with Saraunas Jasikevicius. From what I've heard and seen, this guy's basically a Steve Nash clone with better defense. And as good as Tinsley is (he was considered an All-Star snub by many), if Saras lives up to half the hype he could be starting before Christmas.

My darkhorse is Danny Granger, the best player in college basketball last year. His overall game is sick, to the point where people have compared him to some combonation of Scottie Pippen, Tracy McGrady, and Shawn Marion.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

From what I've heard, Oberto play's like a soft, Euro version of Tony Massenberg, with slightly less athleticism.

I'm going with Saraunas Jasikevicius. From what I've heard and seen, this guy's basically a Steve Nash clone with better defense. And as good as Tinsley is (he was considered an All-Star snub by many), if Saras lives up to half the hype he could be starting before Christmas.

My darkhorse is Danny Granger, the best player in college basketball last year. His overall game is sick, to the point where people have compared him to some combonation of Scottie Pippen, Tracy McGrady, and Shawn Marion.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif we'll see

[Kamnik]

yeah if Saras stays healthy he will start for sure; he is an unbelivable passer and a 3 point sniper!

[wildbill2u]

It almost always depends on which player gets a starting job on some team. You don't get ROY if you're on the bench. That considerably narrows the field.

My guess is that Bohut will start and therefore will win over Harris and Granger.

[marcus]

there is something else, rookies that are not real rookies get less consideration for this kind of awards. Just look at Nocioni's situation last season. He didn't even make the second team. Moreover he wasn't even called for the rookie game in the all-star weekend despite having pretty good numbers compared to some other players, ha.

[ObiwanGinobili]

From what I've heard, Oberto play's like a soft, Euro version of Tony Massenberg, with slightly less athleticism.

I'm going with Saraunas Jasikevicius. From what I've heard and seen, this guy's basically a Steve Nash clone with better defense. And as good as Tinsley is (he was considered an All-Star snub by many), if Saras lives up to half the hype he could be starting before Christmas.

My darkhorse is Danny Granger, the best player in college basketball last year. His overall game is sick, to the point where people have compared him to some combonation of Scottie Pippen, Tracy McGrady, and Shawn Marion.


:lmao
oh my god , 2 threads now this guy has me spitting OJ all over the screen!
classic man, classic.

[cecil collins]

Chris Paul

My bet as well. What's with the choices. Not that I'm a foreign basher, but no Americans. For those to be the choices, you overlook several really good players.

[jermaine7fan]

Well he won a gold medal for Argentina during the most recent Olympics for starters.He won it for them... or he was on the winning team? Manu won that title... not Oberto.

[Leetonidas]

I think it will be Marvin Williams. If the Hawks get 30 wins this season, and he is a big part of that, I think he can take the award.

:lol

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

He won it for them... or he was on the winning team? Manu won that title... not Oberto.

It's called a team effort, Oberto defended the paint like no other player in that tournament. If you call Oberto soft, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Oh, and Fabri pwn3d Jermaine O'Neal in the 2002 World Championships.

[jermaine7fan]

It's called a team effort, Oberto defended the paint like no other player in that tournament. If you call Oberto soft, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Oh, and Fabri pwn3d Jermaine O'Neal in the 2002 World Championships.
I didn't call him soft... and I never claimed to know anything about him... this started from me inquiring about him. You say he owned JO... it is possible... but I doubt it was as bad as you just made it sound. Plus... Oberto is on JO's playground now (in the NBA)... so we'll see how he translates... but I have no doubt he could be phenominal... the Spurs are excellent at getting over seas talent... best of luck with him.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

I didn't call him soft... and I never claimed to know anything about him... this started from me inquiring about him. You say he owned JO... it is possible... but I doubt it was as bad as you just made it sound. Plus... Oberto is on JO's playground now (in the NBA)... so we'll see how he translates... but I have no doubt he could be phenominal... the Spurs are excellent at getting over seas talent... best of luck with him.

You didn't call him soft, I'm sorry, "TheArtestFactor" did.

[THE X-FACTOR]

If Oberto did win that would be bad for the Spurs since it would mean someone good would have been injured for most of the season, otherwise he would not get enough playing time to be in the running for rookie of the year. That is why I wouldn't even mention Jason Maxiell, he has the talent to be rookie of the year but won't get enough playing time since he is playing behind Wallace x2, McDyess, Dale Davis, and Darko Milicic who they are going to force feed minutes to in hope he has a good season.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Sorry if I posted very few options, but appart from Bogut, I don't have much knowledge on the College players. I know better the overseas picks or players who will be "false" rookies like Oberto, Jasikevicius or Macijauskas.

[Sense]

Sorry if I posted very few options, but appart from Bogut, I don't have much knowledge on the College players. I know better the overseas picks or players who will be "false" rookies like Oberto, Jasikevicius or Macijauskas.


Yeah, I don't blame you.. but the fact is... an high pick is going to win. Who knows who, but I bet it would probably be someone with a lottery team.

[JMarkJohns]

Raymond Felton.

Not only is he by far the better NBA PG prospect than Deron Williams or Chris Paul, he's a flat-out leader.

He's got a great frontcourt to help him look good defensively and will be playing the passing lanes, utilizing his superior quickness. I wouldn't be surprised if he tops 2spg as a rook.

He's going to beat every PG off the dribble. His first step is unstoppable. With this, he'll create a lot of scoring opportunities and prolly rack up big numbers in the process.

His shooting isn't great, but Kidd has shown that if you can consistantly beat your man off the dribble, it doesn't matter.

My guess, 14ppg, 7apg, 4rpg, 2spg on 41% from the field and 42% from range.

Paul may average more points, but he won't have the all around stats.

I'm predicting 30 wins for the Bobcats. I doubt Charlotte nets 25.

[smeagol]

Oberto=No chance.

I can bet all my vbookie on it.

[jermaine7fan]

I believe the following cast would be better to chose from...

ATL - Marvin Williams*
BOS- Gerald Green
CHA- Raymond Felton*
CHA- Sean May
DEN- Julius Hodge
GSW- Ike Diogu*
HOU- Luther Head
IND- Sarunas Jasikavicius*
IND- Danny Granger
MEM- Hakim Warrick
MIA- Wayne Simien
UTH- Deron Williams*
TOR- Charlie Villanueva
TOR-Joey Graham
SAS- Oberto
POR- Martell Webster*
POR- Jarrett Jack
NYK- Nate Robinson*
NOH- Macijauskas
NOH- Chris Paul*
NJN- Antoine Wright
MIN- Rashad McCants*
MIL- Andrew Bogut*

I really believe that this was the most overall loaded drafts I have seen in years... no one really stands out as head and shoulders above everyone... ROY is up for grabs this year. I put asterisks next to my favs to win it.

I am not sure what I think about Bogut yet... he got dominated in a summer league game by his only real NBA competition he faced... and that was by the #30 pick from the previous draft... David Harrison. Harrison scored 16 points in 15 minutes against Bogut... Bogut was ejected from that game cause he got aggrivated over being a slave to both David Harrison and a total abomination named John Edwards.

[The Artest Factor]

Oh, and Fabri pwn3d Jermaine O'Neal in the 2002 World Championships.
And Sarunas Jasikivecius pwn3d the entire US team including "El Boringo" Tim Duncan in the 2004 Olympics.

[smeagol]

And Sarunas Jasikivecius pwn3d the entire US team including "El Boringo" Tim Duncan in the 2004 Olympics.
So did Arroyo. What's your point?

[Mark in Austin]

And Sarunas Jasikivecius pwn3d the entire US team including "El Boringo" Tim Duncan in the 2004 Olympics.


Please. If you're going to pimp somebody from the Pacers, it should be Danny Granger. Jasikivecius can shoot, but comparing him to Steve Nash, as somebody did earlier is like a Spurs homer comparing Oberto to Willis Reed.

Calling Oberto soft shows just how ignorant you are, or that you are simply a troll; perhaps both. We welcome posters who are fans of other teams here, but if you want to be taken seriously and valued as a contributer to this forum (like several Suns, Pistons, and Lakers fans are); come with a real take that shows a modicum of thought. Otherwise, you'll be quickly added to most people's "ignore poster" list.

[xcoriate]

Voting for Oberto is just stupid. Bag on the indiana homers as much as you want but it is slightly hipocritical.

[CyberSnake]

I'm going with Chris Paul he'll get plenty of playing time but he's kinda small and may not make it the whole season, and my long shot is Sean May. I know Sean sucked in summer league but he's big and will get plenty of playing time as well.

[JMarkJohns]

Sean sucked in summer league play?

He led the Rocky Mountain Review in scoring and rebounding.

16.5 - 9.2 isn't bad for a rookie. I remember some bad games, but overall, he did well.

My top 5
Felton
Bogut
Paul
Diogu
May

[SLOVENIAN 8]

Oberto 100% wont be MVP,,,,,

[picnroll]

I'll go with Ike Diogu or Bogut.

[picnroll]

And Sarunas Jasikivecius pwn3d the entire US team including "El Boringo" Tim Duncan in the 2004 Olympics.
The Artest Factor any chance you'll hang yourself when the Pacers get knocked out by Detroit or Miami?