View Full Version : Spurs trying to track down the 2/3/4 seed
MeloHype
04-12-2015, 12:35 AM
The only way we get the 2 seed is if we end up in a 3 way tie with the rockets and grizz OR if the grizz lose 1 more game and we win out. That's right I think.
we can get the 2 seed in a 4 way tie too
BillMc
04-12-2015, 12:37 AM
Winning out may not be easy. New Orleans game in NO with the Pelicans very likely needing to win to clinch a playoff spot. We can win (of course) but its no easy victory.
Ditty
04-12-2015, 12:50 AM
Just give me Dallas and Memphis in the first two rounds tbh.
BatManu20
04-12-2015, 12:52 AM
Just give me Dallas and Memphis in the first two rounds tbh.
This would be ideal, but very unlikely.
ElNono
04-12-2015, 12:59 AM
But who's on first?
#2 seed goes to the SW division winner. Spurs get that on a 3 way tie with Memphis and Rockets OR a better record than Memphis.
marinoman
04-12-2015, 01:08 AM
so if i understand correctly (good chance i dont) we dont really need memphis to lose again, a 3 or 4 way tie and we win the division.
BTW is there a scenario in which we get the 2 seed but not homecourt rd2?
RD2191
04-12-2015, 01:10 AM
so if i understand correctly (good chance i dont) we dont really need memphis to lose again, a 3 or 4 way tie and we win the division.
BTW is there a scenario in which we get the 2 seed but not homecourt rd2?
Would rather the grizz lose so we dont have to rely on the Roxsfan winning their last 2 games.
MultiTroll
04-12-2015, 01:22 AM
BTW is there a scenario in which we get the 2 seed but not homecourt rd2?
No.
Leetonidas
04-12-2015, 01:25 AM
Spurs are going to skullfuck whoever they play whenever and wherever they play them so it doesn't really matter tbh
marinoman
04-12-2015, 01:30 AM
ok
heyheymymy
04-12-2015, 01:30 AM
But who's on first?
It's like the old Abbot and Costello bit around here.
siraulo23
04-12-2015, 02:02 AM
Memphis needs to lose to GSW, then we could find ourselves in a 3 way tie with the Clippers and Houston, which is where I think we would prevail and get the #2 seed, since we own the head 2 head with Houston, so we would be the division leader.
So basically a three way tie between spurs grizz and rockets mean memphis gets the 2 seed (assuming clippers stay below the grizz). Thats what i thought too
yea spurs need the grizz to lose another game to get the 2nd seed
will_spurs
04-12-2015, 02:12 AM
So basically a three way tie between spurs grizz and rockets mean memphis gets the 2 seed (assuming clippers stay below the grizz). Thats what i thought too
No. As has been explained about a billion times in this thread, the Spurs would get the 2nd seed in this case.
Put another way: thanks to Friday's win against Houston, the Spurs automatically win any 3-team tie that involves the Spurs and Houston (regardless of the third team).
Jimmy Cobaine
04-12-2015, 02:13 AM
Winning out may not be easy. New Orleans game in NO with the Pelicans very likely needing to win to clinch a playoff spot. We can win (of course) but its no easy victory.
Pop doesn't like winning streaks. Especially heading into the playoffs.
will_spurs
04-12-2015, 02:15 AM
Pop doesn't like winning streaks. Especially heading into the playoffs.
Maybe. But I'm sure he really likes heading into the playoffs as a #2 seed rather than #5 or #6. And I feel he's going to like that #2 seed a lot more than some vague superstition about heading into the playoffs on a winning streak.
siraulo23
04-12-2015, 02:26 AM
No. As has been explained about a billion times in this thread, the Spurs would get the 2nd seed in this case.
Put another way: thanks to Friday's win against Houston, the Spurs automatically win any 3-team tie that involves the Spurs and Houston (regardless of the third team).
XD
i know but i cant find a written tiebreak rule anywhere
as grizz has tiebreaker over spurs and houston if all three teams win out
where does if its say a 3 way tie, tiebreaker goes to the team with best combined head to head record
will_spurs
04-12-2015, 02:28 AM
where does if its say a 3 way tie, tiebreaker goes to the team with best combined head to head record
In this very thread, on this very same page, in ElNono's post :rolleyes :lol
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245625&page=34&p=7924031&viewfull=1#post7924031
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245625&page=34&p=7924046&viewfull=1#post7924046
siraulo23
04-12-2015, 02:31 AM
In this very thread, on this very same page, in ElNono's post :rolleyes :lol
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245625&page=34&p=7924031&viewfull=1#post7924031
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245625&page=34&p=7924046&viewfull=1#post7924046
but this combined record thing isnt even on nba.com's page, is it? :lol
Cloud786
04-12-2015, 02:31 AM
XD
i know but i cant find a written tiebreak rule anywhere
as grizz has tiebreaker over spurs and houston if all three teams win out
where does if its say a 3 way tie, tiebreaker goes to the team with best combined head to head record
http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html?ls=iref:nba:gnav
b. More Than Two Teams Tied
(1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division.
(2) Better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams.
Since all three teams would be tied, tiebreak #2 would be applied and we would win that.
ElNono
04-12-2015, 02:33 AM
So basically a three way tie between spurs grizz and rockets mean memphis gets the 2 seed (assuming clippers stay below the grizz). Thats what i thought too
No. A 3 way tie between spurs grizz and rockets means the Spurs get #2, due to the head to head amongst those 3 teams.
siraulo23
04-12-2015, 02:34 AM
Thanks :lol it took a while but i get it now
RD2191
04-12-2015, 02:36 AM
Thanks :lol it took a while but i get it now
Don't worry. I had to have it explained to me like 10 times last night.
siraulo23
04-12-2015, 02:39 AM
I read nba.com's rules but didnt click expand so i missed out on the other info xD
Cloud786
04-12-2015, 02:40 AM
Let me make it easy for everyone.
As someone mentioned earlier, at this point, Spurs win 2nd seed in the following two scenarios.
1). Spurs win out and Memphis loses one game (regardless of what Houston or Clippers do)
2). Spurs win out and Houston wins out (regardless of what Memphis and Clippers do)
If Spurs win out, Memphis wins out, Clippers win out, and Houston loses a game, then Spurs would drop to the 5th seed. This would be because the SW division winner would be Memphis by virtue of better conference record (as their division records would be the same). Memphis would have the 2nd seed. Clippers would be 3rd seed as they have a better conference record as well. We would drop to 5.
So basically, either hope Memphis loses one more game OR Houston wins out, and we would get 2nd seed.
will_spurs
04-12-2015, 02:55 AM
but this combined record thing isnt even on nba.com's page, is it? :lol
No, we make it up as we go along, of course: http://stats.nba.com/playoffpicture/ :lol
BillMc
04-12-2015, 03:07 AM
Let me make it easy for everyone.
As someone mentioned earlier, at this point, Spurs win 2nd seed in the following two scenarios.
1). Spurs win out and Memphis loses one game (regardless of what Houston or Clippers do)
2). Spurs win out and Houston wins out (regardless of what Memphis and Clippers do)
If Spurs win out, Memphis wins out, Clippers win out, and Houston loses a game, then Spurs would drop to the 5th seed. This would be because the SW division winner would be Memphis by virtue of better conference record (as their division records would be the same). Memphis would have the 2nd seed. Clippers would be 3rd seed as they have a better conference record as well. We would drop to 5.
So basically, either hope Memphis loses one more game OR Houston wins out, and we would get 2nd seed.
Cheers for the break down!:toast
exstatic
04-12-2015, 05:04 AM
So, we're probably 5th, unless GS does us a solid vs Memphis (they might, just to keep us out of their bracket). Houston seems to have zero incentive to win out. They lose tiebreakers with everyone, and the big 4 way tiebreaker.
will_spurs
04-12-2015, 05:10 AM
So, we're probably 5th, unless GS does us a solid vs Memphis
Gasol left the game yesterday with a sprained ankle. Conley is hurt. Curry is still playing for a MVP. I could really see Memphis losing this game.
Horry Hipcheck
04-12-2015, 05:25 AM
So, we're probably 5th, unless GS does us a solid vs Memphis (they might, just to keep us out of their bracket). Houston seems to have zero incentive to win out. They lose tiebreakers with everyone, and the big 4 way tiebreaker.
I had to double check to see how Houston's seeding odds line up, I was curious how they stack against LAC for the 3 v. 6 matchup. The Rockets really fucked themselves losing those two games against the Spurs. They still have an incentive to win out, because they can still win the division if the Spurs and Grizzlies lose one more game each. A three-way tie at 56-26 all puts them in sixth (assuming LA wins out).
The Warriors may not give a shit who they set themselves up to face in the second round, but it's possible they do and will want to guarantee they meet the Spurs no sooner than the conference finals. If I'm not mistaken, the Rockets can still lock up fifth and home court against Portland if Memphis loses in Oakland and they win out. Right? The Spurs (if they win out) would finish second, the Clippers (if they win out) would finish third, Portland's a lock at fourth, Dallas is all but locked in at seventh, and the Rockets would be a game better than Memphis.
In that scenario, unless I'm missing something, the final standings would be:
1. Warriors
2. Spurs (56-26)
3. Clippers (56-26)
4. Blazers
5. Rockets (56-26)
6. Grizzlies (55-27)
7. Mavs
8. Pelicans/Thunder
Winning out and banking on Memphis losing in Oakland or the Spurs potentially losing in New Orleans (or, lest we overlook them, falling to Phoenix at home) sets Houston up for a fifth seed and home court advantage against the Guests, a series they're much more likely to win, I think, than a series against Los Angeles without home court. Rather than rest on their laurels, having lost their best shot at the 2 seed, I think Houston has to look at the likelihood of Memphis being beaten by Golden State and hoping the Spurs lose at least one of their last two games. Best case, Houston sneaks back into the 2 seed. Most likely case, Houston gets the 5 seed.
exstatic
04-12-2015, 08:23 AM
I had to double check to see how Houston's seeding odds line up, I was curious how they stack against LAC for the 3 v. 6 matchup. The Rockets really fucked themselves losing those two games against the Spurs. They still have an incentive to win out, because they can still win the division if the Spurs and Grizzlies lose one more game each. A three-way tie at 56-26 all puts them in sixth (assuming LA wins out).
The Warriors may not give a shit who they set themselves up to face in the second round, but it's possible they do and will want to guarantee they meet the Spurs no sooner than the conference finals. If I'm not mistaken, the Rockets can still lock up fifth and home court against Portland if Memphis loses in Oakland and they win out. Right? The Spurs (if they win out) would finish second, the Clippers (if they win out) would finish third, Portland's a lock at fourth, Dallas is all but locked in at seventh, and the Rockets would be a game better than Memphis.
In that scenario, unless I'm missing something, the final standings would be:
1. Warriors
2. Spurs (56-26)
3. Clippers (56-26)
4. Blazers
5. Rockets (56-26)
6. Grizzlies (55-27)
7. Mavs
8. Pelicans/Thunder
Winning out and banking on Memphis losing in Oakland or the Spurs potentially losing in New Orleans (or, lest we overlook them, falling to Phoenix at home) sets Houston up for a fifth seed and home court advantage against the Guests, a series they're much more likely to win, I think, than a series against Los Angeles without home court. Rather than rest on their laurels, having lost their best shot at the 2 seed, I think Houston has to look at the likelihood of Memphis being beaten by Golden State and hoping the Spurs lose at least one of their last two games. Best case, Houston sneaks back into the 2 seed. Most likely case, Houston gets the 5 seed.
One interesting thing is that on Wednesday, Houston plays at 7 CST, but Memphis final game against Indy doesn't tip until 8:30 CST. Indy now has all hands on deck, and is fighting for their playoff lives. Houston won't know anything but a halftime score when their game is winding down.
ddjeffries
04-12-2015, 08:42 AM
When was the last time all teams from one division made the playoffs?
Johnny RIngo
04-12-2015, 08:54 AM
When was the last time all teams from one division made the playoffs?
Central Division 2006:
64-18 (1st seed) - Pistons
50-32 (4th seed) - Cavs
41-41 (6th seed) - Pacers
41-41 (7th seed) - Bulls
40-42 (8th seed) - Bucks
Not as impressive as southwest this year though which will probably have four 50 win teams in the playoffs.
jiggy_55
04-12-2015, 09:05 AM
Spurs winning out (with Timmy, Tony, and Manu playing) also means the Big 3 would tie the Bird/McHale/Parish record of 540 wins as a trio
boutons_deux
04-12-2015, 09:09 AM
Spurs and Grizz finish div 9-7, H2H 2-2, but Grizz win division and 3rd seed with better conf record, Spurs in 5th and open @Blazers, then 2nd round @GSW
exstatic
04-12-2015, 09:14 AM
Spurs and Grizz finish div 9-7, H2H 2-2, but Grizz win division and 3rd seed with better conf record, Spurs in 5th and open @Blazers.
If Houston loses a game, that would be the two way tie scenario. SA wins the three way tie by having a 5-3 record in common games among the three teams.
SpursFan86
04-12-2015, 09:14 AM
So, we're probably 5th, unless GS does us a solid vs Memphis (they might, just to keep us out of their bracket). Houston seems to have zero incentive to win out. They lose tiebreakers with everyone, and the big 4 way tiebreaker.
I think 2nd is more likely tbh (assuming we win out of course). The chances that GS beats Memphis are pretty high. Memphis will be on the road, and even if GS rests some people, Memphis will likely be missing Conley, Allen, and maybe even Gasol. Then Memphis also plays Indiana the last game of the season, which won't be a gimme. Indiana could still be fighting for their playoff bid.
I'm a little worried about that New Orleans game though. On the road, and playing against a team that has done well this season against good teams. I hope they already have their playoff fate decided going into that game. Not having Splitter would hurt going up against Davis/Asik as well.
boutons_deux
04-12-2015, 09:17 AM
If Houston loses a game, that would be the two way tie scenario. SA wins the three way tie by having a 5-3 record in common games among the three teams.
Grizz will take the div and 3rd seed, records don't matter (eg, div winner, 4th seed Blazers' record would put them in 6th). Houston can't tie or win in div. Spurs tie in div W-L and in H2H vs grizz, but lose div on conf record
Spurs - Clips tie with 26L and H2H, Clips take 2nd seed with better conf record vs spurs and rox
exstatic
04-12-2015, 09:27 AM
Grizz will take the div and 3rd seed, records don't matter (eg, div winner, 4th seed Blazers' record would put them in 6th). Houston can't tie or win in div.
You're not tracking this right. If everyone wins out, it's a three way tie for the division, which we win. Houston has played one less game, which is why the standings are what they are right now. If they were playing the early game today (they're not) and won, we would instantly pop up from 5th to 2nd without doing a damn thing.
boutons_deux
04-12-2015, 09:33 AM
You're not tracking this right. If everyone wins out, it's a three way tie for the division, which we win. Houston has played one less game, which is why the standings are what they are right now. If they were playing the early game today (they're not) and won, we would instantly pop up from 5th to 2nd without doing a damn thing.
there is NO DIV 3-say TIE, Rox have 8L vs 7L for spurs, grizz.
grizz have no more div games, finish 9-7, spur will beat Pels finish 9-7, rox lose div with 8L (Timmy's block!), so grizz spurs tie for div W-L , tie h2h, but grizz take div and 3rd seed with better conf record
lac and spurs tie league w-l (the knicks loss!) , lac takes 2nd seed with better conf record, spurs get 5th, open @blazers, then @GSW
Spurs 4 The Win
04-12-2015, 09:37 AM
there is NO DIV TIE, Rox have 8L vs 7L for spurs, grizz. grizz have no more div games, finish 9-7, spur will beat Pels finish 9-7, rox lose div with 8L, so grizz spurs tie for div, h2h, and grizz take div and 3rd seed with conf record
lac and spurs tie w-l, lac takes 2nd with better conf record, spurs get 5th
Wrong
exstatic
04-12-2015, 10:08 AM
there is NO DIV 3-say TIE, Rox have 8L vs 7L for spurs, grizz.
grizz have no more div games, finish 9-7, spur will beat Pels finish 9-7, rox lose div with 8L, so grizz spurs tie for div W-L , tie h2h, but grizz take div and 3rd seed with better conf record
lac and spurs tie league w-l (the knicks loss!) , lac takes 2nd seed with better conf record, spurs get 5th, open @blazers, then @GSW
The division is tied if the OVERALL records of the three teams are the same. You're jumping right down to like the 3rd tiebreaker, or something, counting divisional losses. That's not how you determine a tie. All three SW division teams currently have 26 losses. If everyone wins out, it's a three way tie at 56-26. Then, you start at the very TOP of the tiebreakers, way above divisional records, games among the tied teams. Spurs win that at 5-3.
I know how much you hate the Spurs, but please stop spreading misinformation.
TXstbobcat
04-12-2015, 10:15 AM
Let me make it easy for everyone.
As someone mentioned earlier, at this point, Spurs win 2nd seed in the following two scenarios.
1). Spurs win out and Memphis loses one game (regardless of what Houston or Clippers do)
2). Spurs win out and Houston wins out (regardless of what Memphis and Clippers do)
If Spurs win out, Memphis wins out, Clippers win out, and Houston loses a game, then Spurs would drop to the 5th seed. This would be because the SW division winner would be Memphis by virtue of better conference record (as their division records would be the same). Memphis would have the 2nd seed. Clippers would be 3rd seed as they have a better conference record as well. We would drop to 5.
So basically, either hope Memphis loses one more game OR Houston wins out, and we would get 2nd seed.
Thank you for the clarification. :tu
boutons_deux
04-12-2015, 10:20 AM
The division is tied if the OVERALL records of the three teams are the same. You're jumping right down to like the 3rd tiebreaker, or something, counting divisional losses. That's not how you determine a tie. All three SW division teams currently have 26 losses. If everyone wins out, it's a three way tie at 56-26. Then, you start at the very TOP of the tiebreakers, way above divisional records, games among the tied teams. Spurs win that at 5-3.
I know how much you hate the Spurs, but please stop spreading misinformation.
ok, you can win a division with overall record but with a worse division record. stupid,but rules is rules, makes divisions even more stupid, esp with div winners guaranteed top half of playoff bracket.
jiggy_55
04-12-2015, 10:23 AM
there is NO DIV 3-say TIE, Rox have 8L vs 7L for spurs, grizz.
grizz have no more div games, finish 9-7, spur will beat Pels finish 9-7, rox lose div with 8L (Timmy's block!), so grizz spurs tie for div W-L , tie h2h, but grizz take div and 3rd seed with better conf record
lac and spurs tie league w-l (the knicks loss!) , lac takes 2nd seed with better conf record, spurs get 5th, open @blazers, then @GSW
Loooool this is funny
BG_Spurs_Fan
04-12-2015, 10:34 AM
ok, you can win a division with overall record but with a worse division record. stupid,but rules is rules, makes divisions even more stupid, esp with div winners guaranteed top half of playoff bracket.
Did you really just find out you win the division based on overall record?
Spurs 4 The Win
04-12-2015, 10:45 AM
Did you really just find out you win the division based on overall record?
He rides the short bus, cut him some slack
Spurs 4 The Win
04-12-2015, 11:43 AM
Overlooked fact, with a win tonight vs Pheonix, we clinch homecourt advantage in the Finals over Cleveland
tp2021
04-12-2015, 12:39 PM
Overlooked fact, with a win tonight vs Pheonix, we clinch homecourt advantage in the Finals over Cleveland
I thought we already did that? I saw it in another thread IIRC.
Even if we lost all remaining games, and they win out, we have a tied record. We also have a tied H2H matchup. Next tiebreaker would be record against the other conference, and of course we did better against the East than they did against the west.
MultiTroll
04-12-2015, 12:48 PM
Clitters win out
Spurs win out.
#2 seed then depends on?
If Houston loses one game are we flocked behind the Clitters?
Spurs 4 The Win
04-12-2015, 12:50 PM
I thought we already did that? I saw it in another thread IIRC.
Even if we lost all remaining games, and they win out, we have a tied record. We also have a tied H2H matchup. Next tiebreaker would be record against the other conference, and of course we did better against the East than they did against the west.
Oh, someone said we didnt have the breaker, shouldve checked myself, but you are right. Good news either way, we have the potential for homecourt in 3/4 rounds when just 2.5 weeks ago we were the 6 seed and lost to the Knicks, what a turnaround
Spurs 4 The Win
04-12-2015, 12:51 PM
Clitters win out
Spurs win out.
#2 seed then depends on?
If Houston loses one game are we flocked behind the Clitters?
We would go to 5 and Memphis would go to 2 (assuming they win out, unlikely)
LoneStarState'sPride
04-12-2015, 01:11 PM
Keep winning and hope the Dubs beat the Grizz, then :lol
Pretty crazy how many seeds are up for grabs with 2 games to go.
ElNono
04-12-2015, 01:26 PM
A win by the Spurs today and a loss by the Rockets against NO (who are fighting for their playoff lives) would set things up such that if Memphis losses to GSW tomorrow (very likely, IMO), the Spurs lock up the #2 seed.
This would be an ideal situation, since it would allow Pop to play minimal minutes/rest players on Wednesday and we could even afford to lose that game.
So you know who to root for tonight beside the Spurs :D
BillMc
04-12-2015, 01:29 PM
A win by the Spurs today and a loss by the Rockets against NO (who are fighting for their playoff lives) would set things up such that if Memphis losses to GSW tomorrow (very likely, IMO), the Spurs lock up the #2 seed.
This would be an ideal situation, since it would allow Pop to play minimal minutes/rest players on Wednesday and we could even afford to lose that game.
So you know who to root for tonight beside the Spurs :D
Cheers
Arcadian
04-12-2015, 01:40 PM
We're still in "danger" of getting Houston as a 3 vs 6 matchup. Although we just beat them twice, we still don't want that matchup. They'll be even more motivated after these last two defeats.
Seventyniner
04-12-2015, 01:40 PM
http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NBA/Western/Southwest/SanAntonio.html
^That site shows scenarios broken down by probabilities of game outcomes. The relevant part for the Spurs as of right now:
http://i61.tinypic.com/106fw3t.png
88% chance of #2 seed if the Spurs win both remaining games, and still a 21% chance if the Spurs drop one.
SpursFan86
04-12-2015, 01:43 PM
A win by the Spurs today and a loss by the Rockets against NO (who are fighting for their playoff lives) would set things up such that if Memphis losses to GSW tomorrow (very likely, IMO), the Spurs lock up the #2 seed.
This would be an ideal situation, since it would allow Pop to play minimal minutes/rest players on Wednesday and we could even afford to lose that game.
Not necessarily. Even if all those things happen, we'd still have to worry about the Clippers. I highly doubt they'll lose any more games, so we have to win out to make sure we stay tied with them. Winning the division won't matter if they have one less loss than us.
Unfortunately I don't think there's any way we'll be able to relax for that last game on Wednesday. Pretty sure it'll be a "must-win" regardless.
Horry Hipcheck
04-12-2015, 01:45 PM
A win by the Spurs today and a loss by the Rockets against NO (who are fighting for their playoff lives) would set things up such that if Memphis losses to GSW tomorrow (very likely, IMO), the Spurs lock up the #2 seed.
This would be an ideal situation, since it would allow Pop to play minimal minutes/rest players on Wednesday and we could even afford to lose that game.
So you know who to root for tonight beside the Spurs :D
unless I'm miscalculating, if the Spurs win the division at 55-27 and the Clips win out, they get the 2 seed and the Spurs lock up No. 3. Spurs only get second over LA if they're tied. So, they can still win the division if they lose to NO, as long as Memphis and Houston both lose, but they'd be guaranteed to finish 3rd. I believe.
ElNono
04-12-2015, 01:53 PM
Not necessarily. Even if all those things happen, we'd still have to worry about the Clippers. I highly doubt they'll lose any more games, so we have to win out to make sure we stay tied with them. Winning the division won't matter if they have one less loss than us.
Unfortunately I don't think there's any way we'll be able to relax for that last game on Wednesday. Pretty sure it'll be a "must-win" regardless.
unless I'm miscalculating, if the Spurs win the division at 55-27 and the Clips win out, they get the 2 seed and the Spurs lock up No. 3. Spurs only get second over LA if they're tied. So, they can still win the division if they lose to NO, as long as Memphis and Houston both lose, but they'd be guaranteed to finish 3rd. I believe.
You guys are probably right. I guess what that would ensure is that the Spurs get a top 3 seed. Thanks
Horry Hipcheck
04-12-2015, 01:56 PM
You guys are probably right. I guess what that would ensure is that the Spurs get a top 3 seed. Thanks
Correct.
yavozerb
04-12-2015, 01:56 PM
From Matt Moore article on cbssports.com:
If Grizzlies, Rockets, Spurs, Clippers win out:
2. Spurs
3. Clippers
4. Blazers
5. Grizzlies (home court)
6. Rockets
7. Mavs
If Grizzlies, Rockets, Spurs win out, Clippers lose one
2. Spurs
3. Grizzlies
4. Blazers
5. Rockets (home court)
6. Clippers
If Grizzlies, Clippers, Rockets win out, Spurs lose one
2. Grizzlies
3. Clippers
4. Blazers
5. Rockets (home court)
6. Spurs
If Clippers, Spurs, Rockets win out, Grizzlies lose one
2. Spurs
3. Clippers
4. Blazers
5. Rockets (home court)
6. Grizzlies
If Clippers, Spurs, win out, Rockets, Grizzlies lose one
2. Spurs
3. Clippers
4. Blazers
5. Grizzlies (home court)
6. Rockets
If Clippers win out, Spurs, Grizzlies, Rockets drop one
2. Clippers
3. Spurs
4. Blazers
5. Grizzlies (home court)
6. Rockets
If Rockets win out, Grizzlies, Clippers, Spurs drop one
2. Rockets
3. Grizzlies
4. Blazers
5. Clippers (home court)
6. Spurs
apalisoc_9
04-12-2015, 01:57 PM
A win by the Spurs today and a loss by the Rockets against NO (who are fighting for their playoff lives) would set things up such that if Memphis losses to GSW tomorrow (very likely, IMO), the Spurs lock up the #2 seed.
This would be an ideal situation, since it would allow Pop to play minimal minutes/rest players on Wednesday and we could even afford to lose that game.
So you know who to root for tonight beside the Spurs :D
No nono..LA will get the 2nd seed.
The spurs still need to win out even if Memphis and Houston loses and have 27 loses.
exstatic
04-12-2015, 02:44 PM
U
A win by the Spurs today and a loss by the Rockets against NO (who are fighting for their playoff lives) would set things up such that if Memphis losses to GSW tomorrow (very likely, IMO), the Spurs lock up the #2 seed.
This would be an ideal situation, since it would allow Pop to play minimal minutes/rest players on Wednesday and we could even afford to lose that game.
So you know who to root for tonight beside the Spurs :D
A rockets loss without a Memphis loss later would be a disaster. We don't need the Rockets to lose. We don't WANT the rockets to lose. The only losses I'm pulling for are Memphis. Barring that, if everyone wins out, we get #2.
heyheymymy
04-12-2015, 03:25 PM
The good news is that it looks like all the games we need certain other teams to win, the team we are counting on also has incentive to win.
HOU has incentive to win out because Harden is still putting up numbers for a MVP, and losing even one game, even to spite the Spurs, could drop them from a 2 to a 6 seed. Plus, winning out likely gives them an easy first round with POR.
GSW has incentive to beat MEM to keep SAS out of their bracket side. Plus Curry is still putting up numbers for a MVP.
Horry Hipcheck
04-12-2015, 03:28 PM
Unrelated to the West race but Boston is currently throat punching the Cavs, who are resting LeBron, Kyrie, and JR Smith.
SpursFan86
04-12-2015, 03:30 PM
Unrelated to the West race but Boston is currently throat punching the Cavs, who are resting LeBron, Kyrie, and JR Smith.
Yep, Celtics are up by 20 midway through the 3rd. A Cleveland loss today guarantees we'd have HCA in a Spurs/Cavs Finals.
Arcadian
04-12-2015, 03:36 PM
That certainly is relevant to us, because I'm predicting a Spurs/Cavs finals.
Horry Hipcheck
04-12-2015, 03:38 PM
That certainly is relevant to us, because I'm predicting a Spurs/Cavs finals.
Unrelated to the West playoff race, not unrelated to the Spurs' title aspirations.
will_spurs
04-12-2015, 03:51 PM
Looking at Matt Moore's scenarios, we see that Houston has a huge incentive to win out, since it guarantees them at least the #5 seed (unless everybody else wins out) or even the #2 seed, whereas there are no scenarios where they can avoid the #6 if they drop one game, in which case they would play either the Clippers or Spurs.
I'm quite sure that Houston FO would prefer playing Portland at home in the 1st round rather than Spurs/Clippers on the road...
spurraider21
04-12-2015, 03:52 PM
basically if we lose to phoenix today, its bad
FlAVaK
04-12-2015, 03:53 PM
^Cavs down 33 with 10 minutes to go. So this potential HCA is locked up!
will_spurs
04-12-2015, 03:55 PM
^Cavs down 33 with 10 minutes to go. So this potential HCA is locked up!
It's already locked up.
Shastafarian
04-12-2015, 04:21 PM
Seems like GSW will have a fairly easy, comparatively, first two rounds unless everyone but the Rockets drop a game.
boutons_deux
04-12-2015, 04:44 PM
I don't expect Spurs to rest @Pelican (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=47088)s, and risk losing 2 seed (if it's available). Spurs could beat Pels and let OKC into playoffs.
WC playoffs start Sat or Sun? I guess we don't know, yet. Isn't it usually one conf Sat and the other conf Sunday?
Spurs 4 The Win
04-12-2015, 04:58 PM
I don't expect Spurs to rest @Pelican (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=47088)s, and risk losing 2 seed (if it's available). Spurs could beat Pels and let OKC into playoffs.
WC playoffs start Sat or Sun? I guess we don't know, yet. Isn't it usually one conf Sat and the other conf Sunday?
No its choice games based on ratings and matchups
exstatic
04-12-2015, 05:23 PM
No its choice games based on ratings and matchups
We usually start with the crappy Sunday matinee game.
Spurs 4 The Win
04-12-2015, 05:35 PM
We usually start with the crappy Sunday matinee game.
Yup, last 4 years we have had that lol
ace3g
04-12-2015, 06:29 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/new-orleans-pelicans-houston-rockets-2015041210/
Rockets/Pelicans
ace3g
04-12-2015, 07:31 PM
Pacers get the win
Mel_13
04-12-2015, 07:33 PM
The final two obstacles to the 2014 title both appear headed to the lottery in 2015.
spurraider21
04-12-2015, 08:00 PM
houston came back, up 8 in the 4th
exstatic
04-12-2015, 08:04 PM
Westbrook going full idiot. He's already had one T appealed to avoid suspension. I would be very disappointed if the league overturned another one from today to avoid suspending him for the next OKC game for accruing 16. It's either a rule or it isn't.
Uriel
04-12-2015, 08:17 PM
The final two obstacles to the 2014 title both appear headed to the lottery in 2015.
How quickly fortunes can change.
SpurAddict561
04-12-2015, 08:32 PM
Seeing on Twitter that Green, Allen, Conley, Gasol all questionable tomorrow vs Golden State.
Go Warriors!
Budkin
04-12-2015, 08:36 PM
Seeing on Twitter that Green, Allen, Conley, Gasol all questionable tomorrow vs Golden State.
Go Warriors!
If Memphis loses we still have to win against NO correct?
SpursFan86
04-12-2015, 08:37 PM
If Memphis loses we still have to win against NO correct?
Correct
Mel_13
04-12-2015, 08:37 PM
If Memphis loses we still have to win against NO correct?
Yes.
SpurAddict561
04-12-2015, 08:39 PM
Yea we still have to win to take 2nd, luckily Pels should know if they're in by their next game considering Thunder play tomorrow without Westbrick.
TXstbobcat
04-12-2015, 08:41 PM
Yea we still have to win to take 2nd, luckily Pels should know if they're in by their next game considering Thunder play tomorrow without Westbrick.
Westchimp could still play tomorow if OKC appeals the tech and they win the appeal.
Cloud786
04-12-2015, 08:41 PM
Best case realistic scenario going into the last day of the season:
- Grizzlies lose to Warriors
- Thunder lose to Blazers (possibly without Westbrook)
- Pelicans beat Timberwolves
This would essentially almost guarantee the 2nd seed as New Orleans would clinch 8th and not have to go all out to win the game on Wednesday against us. Memphis losing would also help because then we don't have to count on the Rockets to win out.
Malik Hairston
04-12-2015, 08:42 PM
Best case realistic scenario going into the last day of the season:
- Grizzlies lose to Warriors
- Thunder lose to Blazers (possibly without Westbrook)
- Pelicans beat Timberwolves
This would essentially almost guarantee the 2nd seed as New Orleans would clinch 8th and not have to go all out to win the game on Wednesday against us. Memphis losing would also help because then we don't have to count on the Rockets to win out.
Clippers miraculously losing, too..it could mean they'll finish 5th and get GSW in the 2nd round, which would be best-case for the Spurs..
SpurAddict561
04-12-2015, 08:43 PM
Westchimp could still play tomorow if OKC appeals the tech and they win the appeal.
Hope they don't overturn since they already overturned one for him
Agloco
04-12-2015, 08:43 PM
Best case scenario is one that puts the Clippers and Warriors in the opposite bracket. Hence the reason I was rooting for MEM last night vs LAC
Cloud786
04-12-2015, 08:44 PM
Clippers miraculously losing, too..it could mean they'll finish 5th and get GSW in the 2nd round, which would be best-case for the Spurs..
True that would definitely be ideal, but unfortunately unlikely. Stupid easy ass schedule for the Clippers..
ace3g
04-12-2015, 09:27 PM
W (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/wins)
L (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/losses)
PCT (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/winpercent)
GB (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/gamesbehind)
HOME
ROAD
DIV
CONF
PF (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/avgpointsfor)
PA (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/avgpointsagainst)
DIFF (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/differential)
STRK (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/streak)
L10
1zGolden State Warriors (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/gs)
65
15
.812
-
37-2
28-13
13-3
40-10
109.7
99.4
+10.2
W2
8-2
2xSan Antonio Spurs (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/sa)
55
26
.679
10.5
33-8
22-18
8-7
32-19
103.2
96.9
+6.3
W11
10-0
3xLos Angeles Clippers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/lac)
54
26
.675
11
29-11
25-15
11-4
35-15
106.6
100.1
+6.5
W5
9-1
4yPortland Trail Blazers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/por)
51
29
.637
14
32-9
19-20
11-4
31-19
103.0
98.3
+4.7
L2
6-4
5xMemphis Grizzlies (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/mem)
54
26
.675
11
30-10
24-16
9-7
35-16
98.2
95.0
+3.2
L1
5-5
6xHouston Rockets (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/hou)
54
26
.675
11
29-11
25-15
8-8
32-19
103.8
100.7
+3.1
W1
7-3
7xDallas Mavericks (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/dal)
48
31
.608
16.5
26-14
22-17
7-9
27-22
105.1
102.2
+2.8
W2
4-6
8New Orleans Pelicans (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/no)
43
37
.538
22
27-13
16-24
7-8
27-23
99.2
98.6
+0.6
L1
6-4
Oklahoma City Thunder (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/okc)
43
37
.538
22
28-12
15-25
8-6
23-27
103.6
101.8
+1.8
L1
3-7
SpursFan86
04-12-2015, 09:30 PM
LAC plays @Phoenix on the 2nd night of a b2b for their last game of the season...gotta hope they somehow manage to lose that game.
GS
SA
Memphis
Portland
LAC
Houston
Dallas
New Orleans
That's the best case scenario for seeding IMO
heyheymymy
04-12-2015, 09:32 PM
GSW beats MEM, NOLA beats MIN, Westbrook stays suspended, POR beats OKC, HOU wins out, and SAS wins out, game against NOLA is garbage time = best case scenario
Spurs 4 The Win
04-12-2015, 09:35 PM
LAC plays @Phoenix on the 2nd night of a b2b for their last game of the season...gotta hope they somehow manage to lose that game.
GS
SA
Memphis
Portland
LAC
Houston
Dallas
New Orleans
That's the best case scenario for seeding IMO
I want the Clippers to play Memphis and Houston on the other side. We can easily beat Memphis/Clippers winner. Houston on the other hand will be way too physical. Wont matter though, Griz will finish 5 or 6 depending on if they win tomorrow. Houston wont lose again
heyheymymy
04-12-2015, 10:06 PM
Crazy to see the Grizz drop so low after working so hard and being one of the best teams early on in the season.
BillMc
04-12-2015, 10:11 PM
GSW beats MEM, NOLA beats MIN, Westbrook stays suspended, POR beats OKC, HOU wins out, and SAS wins out, game against NOLA is garbage time = best case scenario
This.
Spurs 4 The Win
04-12-2015, 10:30 PM
Crazy to see the Grizz drop so low after working so hard and being one of the best teams early on in the season.
Championships arent won in November, thats what they get, just like Portland, you should always coast at the start
heyheymymy
04-12-2015, 10:30 PM
Championships arent won in November, thats what they get, just like Portland, you should always coast at the start
:flag:
BillMc
04-12-2015, 10:41 PM
I'm a bit slow apparently, but I just realized the entire Southwest division may make the playoffs. Damn.
apalisoc_9
04-12-2015, 11:03 PM
who gets the tiebreaker between Houston and LA?
They are 2-2 in H2H and potentially finish with the same conference record.
So the next tiebreaker is record against playoff teams in the west..It's so hard to find this though.
apalisoc_9
04-12-2015, 11:07 PM
Spurs 56
LA 56
Houston 56
Memphis 55..
Spurs obviously get 2..
But who finishes 3rd? LA or Houston?
LA has the tiebreaker between Memphis-Houston-LA...
But I don't know about Houston and LA..Would be nixe of Houston has the tiebreaker so we can see LA in the other side for an LA and GSW series.
Mel_13
04-12-2015, 11:09 PM
Spurs 56
LA 56
Houston 56
Memphis 55..
Spurs obviously get 2..
But who finishes 3rd? LA or Houston?
LA has the tiebreaker between Memphis-Houston-LA...
But I don't know about Houston and LA..Would be nixe of Houston has the tiebreaker so we can see LA in the other side for an LA and GSW series.
If post 1063 is correct, the Clippers would get the 3 seed.
apalisoc_9
04-12-2015, 11:14 PM
If post 1063 is correct, the Clippers would get the 3 seed.
thanks.
I got cross eyed and saw LA with a 32-19 conference record. They are 35-12...
My bad.
Prose
04-12-2015, 11:35 PM
Wait if the clippers win out don't they have atie breaker with us? Don't they get 2
apalisoc_9
04-12-2015, 11:37 PM
Wait if the clippers win out don't they have atie breaker with us? Don't they get 2
NO..We have the tiebreaker over them.
I'm trying to figure out scenarios where LA gets 5th seed without San Antonio giving up the 2nd seed...
Seems like they are either 2,3 or 6 though...damn
will_spurs
04-13-2015, 12:42 AM
It doesn't really matter who gets the #5 since it's extremely likely to be Houston or the Clippers, and both teams will give the Warriors fits in the 2nd round.
Horry Hipcheck
04-13-2015, 12:46 AM
I'm trying to figure out scenarios where LA gets 5th seed without San Antonio giving up the 2nd seed...
It's highly unlikely to happen. The Spurs would have to win the Southwest, ideally with 56 wins. To finish 5th in that scenario, LA would have to finish with a worse record than the Southwest runner-up, but a better record than the Southwest second-runner-up. If the Spurs have 56 wins, the easiest way for LA to get locked into fifth is for Memphis to finish with 55 wins, the Clips themselves to finish with 54 wins, and then Houston to finish with 54 wins. This situation calls for LA to lose their final two games, both against West opposition, and for Houston to lose their final two games. LA would still hold the conference record tiebreaker over Houston, and would be awarded the 5 seed.
Should the Clips win 55 games instead, they'd finish 36-16 in the conference. Memphis can't be tied with SA and the Rockets, because that would push LA to 6th. Memphis can't be tied with just SA, because they'd win the division and finish 2nd. If the Rockets are down in 6th, and the Spurs in 2nd, and Memphis and LA are both sitting at 55-27, conference record would come into play depending on where Memphis suffers its 27th loss. Against GSW, that leaves the Grizz at 35-17 in the West. Against Indy, though, that means they'd finish 36-16. So if LA were to split their final games 1-1, and Memphis splits their final games 1-1, LA would finish third if the Grizzlies lose in Oakland by virtue of conference record tiebreaker. If, however, Memphis beats Golden State but loses to Indiana, they'd have to go to the fourth tiebreaker, which is winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference. I have a gut feeling that LA leads in that department, what with how Memphis has crumbled lately. I could go through their respective schedules and figure it out, but it's 11 PM out here and I'm not about to do that shit. But, there's a chance that LA wins that tiebreaker as well, and would again finish 3rd.
So Memphis and LA cannot finish with identical records unless they also finish with a worse record than Houston. LA wins the tiebreakers over Memphis (probably) and the Rockets, so in order for them to get to 5th instead of 3rd, Houston has to already be in 3rd OR LA has to finish a game worse than Memphis. A lot of things can still happen, but realistically I think LA's a lock for 3rd.
BillMc
04-13-2015, 02:01 AM
In the end we want Memphis to lose and the Spurs and Rockets to win out.
heyheymymy
04-13-2015, 02:08 AM
I'm going to guess that Marc Gasol will play. He's tough as nails and we wouldn't be so lucky anyway. We'll see.
BatManu20
04-13-2015, 11:21 AM
Like I said, tbh.
587643781157117952
Spurs 4 The Win
04-13-2015, 11:22 AM
Like I said, tbh.
587643781157117952
They will lose anyways
timtonymanu
04-13-2015, 12:37 PM
Aldridge will sit vs OKC. So count that out as a W for Portland.
MultiTroll
04-13-2015, 03:31 PM
Q. If Spurs win final reg season game our seed will be at the worst #____?
I know it depends on what other teams do but for here and now today? ^^
Cloud786
04-13-2015, 03:34 PM
Q. If Spurs win final reg season game our seed will be at the worst #____?
I know it depends on what other teams do but for here and now today? ^^
5th seed.. This happens if Memphis, Clippers, Spurs win out and Rockets lose a game.
apalisoc_9
04-13-2015, 03:36 PM
damn..Guess the spurs have to take the last game seriously. Hoping for a miracle win by Portland.
Horry Hipcheck
04-13-2015, 03:41 PM
damn..Guess the spurs have to take the last game seriously. Hoping for a miracle win by Portland.
Depends a lot on Memphis, tbh. They're probably going to get canned in Oakland, leaving Houston and SA in a tie for the Southwest title (assuming both win their final games) and the Spurs would get the tiebreaker over LA with a division win. Regardless, the Spurs have to win out to have as much control in the situation as they can, but if Memphis loses today (and I suspect they will) that will clear a path.
apalisoc_9
04-13-2015, 03:53 PM
I also want to see a NOP vs. Warriors playoff..
ace3g
04-13-2015, 08:30 PM
Rob Fischer @thefishnation
(https://twitter.com/thefishnation)Mike Conley (foot) and Tony Allen (hamstring) are both out for @memgrizz (https://twitter.com/memgrizz/) tonight at Golden State
Mugen
04-13-2015, 08:36 PM
Looks like it's either the 2nd or the 6th seed for the Spurs. I doubt the Clippers or Rockets lose again this season. Memphis probably loses tonight and wins their final game.
Meanwhile, the Spurs have by far the toughest final game of the 4 teams and will be in a dogfight against New Orleans.
Seventyniner
04-13-2015, 09:22 PM
Looks like it's either the 2nd or the 6th seed for the Spurs. I doubt the Clippers or Rockets lose again this season. Memphis probably loses tonight and wins their final game.
Meanwhile, the Spurs have by far the toughest final game of the 4 teams and will be in a dogfight against New Orleans.
Fuck it, the Spurs are by far the best team of those four anyway. With this much on the line for both sides it should be one hell of a game.
Mugen
04-13-2015, 09:23 PM
Fuck it, the Spurs are by far the best team of those four anyway. With this much on the line for both sides it should be one hell of a game.
Agreed. Should be a great test for the Spurs right before the playoffs. Will definitely a playoff atmosphere.
ElNono
04-13-2015, 09:24 PM
fucking sucks, tbh... fucking Portland trying to get fancy... I hope that Batum injury is a career ender... wanted the Pels in...
Malik Hairston
04-13-2015, 09:25 PM
Pacers are still playing for a playoff spot, Memphis isn't guaranteed to win their final game, tbh..
ElNono
04-13-2015, 09:26 PM
You want a cakewalk game going into the playoffs... let players get a good workout, but not have to go all out and risk an injury.... now we gotta win or we can drop to #5 or #6...
Hope Danny, Bobo and Kawhi are tuned in...
apalisoc_9
04-13-2015, 09:32 PM
Portland SMDH
apalisoc_9
04-13-2015, 09:33 PM
Spurs can still finish 2nd even with a loss so long as Houston loses tom and LA and Memphis loses today.
LoneStarState'sPride
04-13-2015, 09:34 PM
Portland SMDH
Doing their typical season-ending swoon :bang
Budkin
04-13-2015, 09:35 PM
Spurs can still finish 2nd even with a loss so long as Houston loses tom and LA and Memphis loses today.
No way in hell LA is losing to Denver at home. Just no way.
apalisoc_9
04-13-2015, 09:35 PM
No way in hell LA is losing to Denver at home. Just no way.
Lets hope.
Budkin
04-13-2015, 09:36 PM
You want a cakewalk game going into the playoffs... let players get a good workout, but not have to go all out and risk an injury.... now we gotta win or we can drop to #5 or #6...
Hope Danny, Bobo and Kawhi are tuned in...
We made our own bed. So many shitty shitty losses this season.
Mugen
04-13-2015, 09:45 PM
:lol God that 5th seed looks so good tbh
littlecoyotecoin
04-13-2015, 09:45 PM
We made our own bed. So many shitty shitty losses this season.
Yes, along with the injuries, the most memorable thing about this season has been the seemingly large number of snatching-defeat-from-the-jaws-of-victory type of games. Here's raising a glass to them being over with early.
itzsoweezee
04-13-2015, 09:46 PM
So confused. Is there any way for Memphis to get the 3 seed and SA to get the 2 seed?
Mugen
04-13-2015, 09:47 PM
So confused. Is there any way for Memphis to get the 3 seed and SA to get the 2 seed?
Only if Memphis / Houston / Spurs end up tied and the Clippers have a worse record than all 3 teams.
BillMc
04-13-2015, 09:49 PM
If either Grizzlies lose, or Houston wins out, all we have to do is beat NO in NO. Effectively a road close out game. Good practice or unfortunate exertion depending on your viewpoint.
Cloud786
04-13-2015, 09:49 PM
Wednesday's game against New Orleans just got exponentially harder.. Fucking Jailblazers useless faggots.
beirmeistr
04-13-2015, 09:49 PM
warriors playing great right now vs jemphis
beirmeistr
04-13-2015, 09:52 PM
curry murdering the griz
Ice009
04-13-2015, 09:54 PM
fucking sucks, tbh... fucking Portland trying to get fancy... I hope that Batum injury is a career ender... wanted the Pels in...
What do you mean by Portland was trying to get fancy? They've got lots of injuries, haven't they? Was Aldridge not hurt? Did they sit him out for no reason?
Also, why do you want the Pelicans in? or did you mean you wanted them in for the purpose of them not having to go all out to win against the Spurs?
Wednesday's game against New Orleans just got exponentially harder.. Fucking Jailblazers useless faggots.
Portland really didn't help us out much at all. They also lost a home game against the Clippers about a week and a half ago while having a decent lead in the second half of that game.
DAF86
04-13-2015, 10:01 PM
So to sum up. Do we want the Grizzlies losing tonight or not?
Raven
04-13-2015, 10:01 PM
memphis is predictably getting skull fucked
apalisoc_9
04-13-2015, 10:01 PM
So to sum up. DO we want the Grizzlies losing tonight or not?
yeah..In that way, we don't have to rely on Houston to win all their games to get 2nd.
littlecoyotecoin
04-13-2015, 10:02 PM
memphis is predictably getting skull fucked
Watch the language, there are ladies present.
SpurPadre
04-13-2015, 10:03 PM
Fuck you, blazers.
Raven
04-13-2015, 10:04 PM
Watch the language, there are ladies present.
skull penised then.
SpursFan86
04-13-2015, 10:04 PM
There's still an outside chance we could get 2nd even if we lose on Wednesday. If Memphis loses tonight, Houston loses against Utah, and the Clippers lose @ Phoenix tomorrow, we'd be able to keep the 2nd seed regardless.
Memphis will most likely lose tonight (or even against Indiana on Wednesday). I could see Houston losing to Utah. Clippers will be on the 2nd end of a b2b and on the road, but Phoenix has been terrible lately...doubt they lose, but you never know.
look_at_g_shred
04-13-2015, 10:05 PM
Memphis looks done. Can already count tonight as a loss for them. They have no firepower and no defense. What happened to them?
DAF86
04-13-2015, 10:05 PM
yeah..In that way, we don't have to rely on Houston to win all their games to get 2nd.
What needs to happen for the Clippers to end on the Warriors side of the bracket?
Cloud786
04-13-2015, 10:06 PM
There's still an outside chance we could get 2nd even if we lose on Wednesday. If Memphis loses tonight, Houston loses against Utah, and the Clippers lose @ Phoenix tomorrow, we'd be able to keep the 2nd seed regardless.
Memphis will most likely lose tonight (or even against Indiana on Wednesday). I could see Houston losing to Utah. Clippers will be on the 2nd end of a b2b and on the road, but Phoenix has been terrible lately...doubt they lose, but you never know.
Houston will not lose at home to Utah who just played tonight. Spurs must win or they will be 6th seed most likely.
apalisoc_9
04-13-2015, 10:06 PM
What needs to happen for the Clippers to end on the Warriors side of the bracket?
If both LA and Grizz lose tonight..
Houston will get third and LA 5th and Memphis 6th..I think.
SpursFan86
04-13-2015, 10:06 PM
Memphis looks done. Can already count tonight as a loss for them. They have no firepower and no defense. What happened to them?
Well right now they're getting wrecked by injuries. Conley and Allen are two important guys they're missing. Gasol and Jeff Green have been dealing with injuries as well.
ducks
04-13-2015, 10:06 PM
15-12 last 27 for mem
Budkin
04-13-2015, 10:07 PM
Memphis looks done. Can already count tonight as a loss for them. They have no firepower and no defense. What happened to them?
The West is pretty much the Warriors, Spurs, and Clippers at this point.
BatManu20
04-13-2015, 10:08 PM
Grizzlies missing Conley and Allen in a bad way. Not sure it'd make much difference in this game though, tbh.
ducks
04-13-2015, 10:08 PM
Cp3 chokes is worse point guard in playoffs
Cloud786
04-13-2015, 10:09 PM
What needs to happen for the Clippers to end on the Warriors side of the bracket?
I believe Spurs and rockets have to win. Clippers have to lose 1, and Memphis has to lost tonight and Wednesday.
littlecoyotecoin
04-13-2015, 10:10 PM
skull penised then.
That's better. Reserve the skull-fucking for your Belinelli rants! :)
Raven
04-13-2015, 10:11 PM
Memphis looks done. Can already count tonight as a loss for them. They have no firepower and no defense. What happened to them?
they are overrated.
Raven
04-13-2015, 10:12 PM
The league is pretty much the Warriors, Spurs, and Clippers at this point.
fify
Horry Hipcheck
04-13-2015, 10:13 PM
The West is pretty much the Warriors, Spurs, and Clippers at this point.
The Clips' best chance at the Finals was for the Spurs to finish fifth and dodge both them and the Dubs until the conference finals. Letting SA and GSW beat the shit out of each other would have been their easiest path. Now it's looking like they'll have to get through the Spurs and then GSW.
Mugen
04-13-2015, 10:14 PM
:lol The respect the Clippers have continued to get on this board is just mind-boggling tbh.
Mikeanaro
04-13-2015, 10:15 PM
Wow 39 pages, not a very interesting thread :lmao
RD2191
04-13-2015, 10:18 PM
:lol The respect the Clippers have continued to get on this board is just mind-boggling tbh.
While I have stated numerous times that I don't think the Clips can get past the 2nd round they have been playing solid ball lately. Matt Barnes is playing really well for them, tbh.
TheGreatYacht
04-13-2015, 10:18 PM
fucking sucks, tbh... fucking Portland trying to get fancy... I hope that Batum injury is a career ender... wanted the Pels in...
Heartless my nigga... :tu
SpurPadre
04-13-2015, 10:23 PM
The West is pretty much the Spurs, Warriors, and Clippers at this point.
Corrected.
NASpurs
04-13-2015, 10:25 PM
I'll be sure to send Klay Thompson some kind of gift basket or something.
beirmeistr
04-13-2015, 10:26 PM
damn, the warriors are toying with memphis
ElNono
04-13-2015, 10:27 PM
What do you mean by Portland was trying to get fancy? They've got lots of injuries, haven't they? Was Aldridge not hurt? Did they sit him out for no reason?
AFAIK, he sat out to "rest"...
Also, why do you want the Pelicans in? or did you mean you wanted them in for the purpose of them not having to go all out to win against the Spurs?
I want OKC to miss the playoffs and thus, have an easy game on Wednesday
SpursFan86
04-13-2015, 10:27 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CChZQypVEAEt1OT.jpg
SpurPadre
04-13-2015, 10:29 PM
I'll be sure to send Klay Thompson some kind of gift basket or something.
Before he gets made into Kawhi' s bitch again.
NASpurs
04-13-2015, 10:30 PM
Before he gets made into Kawhi' s bitch again.
Wasn't DG on him last game?
kaji157
04-13-2015, 10:30 PM
Wow NBA really has to fix the ranking system, the blazers are a 6th seed with the 4th and are fucking up everything in the process.
SpurPadre
04-13-2015, 10:32 PM
Wasn't DG on him last game?
Yeah but I'm referring to the '13 playoffs.
kaji157
04-13-2015, 10:32 PM
I have no trouble finishing 5th to say the truth, i prefer to have GS in the second round than in the conference finals. Which Memphis has a very good chance to get to which could be great.
BillMc
04-13-2015, 10:32 PM
Watching Clips - Nuggets. No way LA is a serious threat.
NASpurs
04-13-2015, 10:34 PM
Yeah but I'm referring to the '13 playoffs.
ah ok, anything that happened two years ago in the playoffs is all a blur to me right now. :lol
Agloco
04-13-2015, 10:36 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CChZQypVEAEt1OT.jpg
Edit: this is not accurate.
beirmeistr
04-13-2015, 10:37 PM
Watching Clips - Nuggets. No way LA is a serious threat.
whats the score?
SpurPadre
04-13-2015, 10:37 PM
ah ok, anything that happened two years ago in the playoffs is all a blur to me right now. :lol
:lol Yeah, that's actually a really healthy mindset, tbh.
Raven
04-13-2015, 10:38 PM
thompson on pace for 74 points at the half :lmao
Raven
04-13-2015, 10:39 PM
grit and grind :lmao
Raven
04-13-2015, 10:39 PM
defensive powerhouse :lmao
ElNono
04-13-2015, 10:41 PM
defensive powerhouse :lmao
Well, they're missing their top 3 defenders, tbh
MultiTroll
04-13-2015, 10:42 PM
Q. If we beat the Pelicans we are at worst #____ seed?
Raven
04-13-2015, 10:43 PM
Well, they're missing their top 3 defenders, tbh
i was just messing around tbh :lol
Agloco
04-13-2015, 10:43 PM
Q. If we beat the Pelicans we are at worst #____ seed?
2. Assuming the Griz don't mount a comeback for the ages
Grit and Grind
04-13-2015, 10:44 PM
Somehow with Klay going balls out in that 2nd quarter we were only outscored by 7 that quarter
jiggy_55
04-13-2015, 10:51 PM
What kind of effect would a clippers loss today have?
apalisoc_9
04-13-2015, 10:51 PM
I don't want to jinx it but Denver is up by 4 right now.
RD2191
04-13-2015, 10:53 PM
I don't want to jinx it but Denver is up by 4 right now.
Thanks for jinxing it my nigga.
exstatic
04-13-2015, 10:58 PM
:lol I think GS wants MEM in the 2nd round.
BillMc
04-13-2015, 10:59 PM
whats the score?
73-70 Nuggets in LA in an important game for Clips and meaningless game for Denver.
Floyd Pacquiao
04-13-2015, 11:00 PM
What happens if the clips lose tonight tbh?
Spurs 4 The Win
04-13-2015, 11:01 PM
What happens if the clips lose tonight tbh?
Then if the rockets lose to the Jazz, we win the division
Floyd Pacquiao
04-13-2015, 11:02 PM
Then if the rockets lose to the Jazz, we win the division
Which is possible
ElNono
04-13-2015, 11:03 PM
What happens if the clips lose tonight tbh?
nothing important unless the Rockets lose too...
SpurPadre
04-13-2015, 11:03 PM
73-70 Nuggets in LA in an important game for Clips and meaningless game for Denver.
Fuck, I just noticed Danilo isn't playing despite scoring 40+ the other night.
SpurPadre
04-13-2015, 11:04 PM
Which is possible
Unless that fucking choker for the Mormons misses another free throw.
BillMc
04-13-2015, 11:05 PM
Fuck, I just noticed Danilo isn't playing despite scoring 40+ the other night.
Yeah, I still expect the Clips to win the game. But I don't fear them at all for the Spurs. Warriors and maybe Cavs are our only serious threats.
apalisoc_9
04-13-2015, 11:05 PM
nothing important unless the Rockets lose too...
Ha?
Doesn't that move LA to 5th?
ElNono
04-13-2015, 11:06 PM
Clippers are hot garbage... they really have no bench.
ElNono
04-13-2015, 11:07 PM
Ha?
Doesn't that move LA to 5th?
I mean about the Spurs chances of landing the #2 seed. We would still need to win Wednesday unless the Rockets drop a game too.
apalisoc_9
04-13-2015, 11:08 PM
tie game now...
I jinxed it
:depressed
oh yeah, hack a scrub is so hot right now.
Agloco
04-13-2015, 11:19 PM
What kind of effect would a clippers loss today have?
Takes some of the pressure off of SAS to win in NO.
exstatic
04-13-2015, 11:20 PM
What happens if the clips lose tonight tbh?
Nothing, unless HOU loses their next game. We NEED to win the division to avoid #5. However, if the Clips DO lose, and Houston loses their next game, we can punt Wednesday, assuming GS doesn't have the most massive collapse in history in the 4th Q tonight. If EACH team in the tie (HOU,MEM,LAC) loses one game, we can punt, and accept a 4 way tie and get #2. If any of them win out, we must win to keep #2.
Floyd Pacquiao
04-13-2015, 11:25 PM
Man, all these scenarios. Spurs better take care of businesses.
BillMc
04-13-2015, 11:26 PM
Nothing, unless HOU loses their next game. We NEED to win the division to avoid #5. However, if the Clips DO lose, and Houston loses their next game, we can punt Wednesday, assuming GS doesn't have the most massive collapse in history in the 4th Q tonight. If EACH team in the tie (HOU,MEM,LAC) loses one game, we can punt, and accept a 4 way tie and get #2. If any of them win out, we must win to keep #2.
Well put.
NASpurs
04-13-2015, 11:28 PM
Nothing, unless HOU loses their next game. We NEED to win the division to avoid #5. However, if the Clips DO lose, and Houston loses their next game, we can punt Wednesday, assuming GS doesn't have the most massive collapse in history in the 4th Q tonight. If EACH team in the tie (HOU,MEM,LAC) loses one game, we can punt, and accept a 4 way tie and get #2. If any of them win out, we must win to keep #2.
Kind of hard to punt the game on Wednesday seeing as how the Spurs and the Rockets are playing simultaneously.
NASpurs
04-13-2015, 11:38 PM
Clippers losing 96-90 :lol
SpursFan86
04-13-2015, 11:38 PM
Nuggets up by 6 now...halfway through the 4th
Mel_13
04-13-2015, 11:39 PM
Kind of hard to punt the game on Wednesday seeing as how the Spurs and the Rockets are playing simultaneously.
Yeah, there's no circumstance where the Spurs punt that game.
BillMc
04-13-2015, 11:42 PM
Yeah, there's no circumstance where the Spurs punt that game.
Cool. So we get to eliminate 5 teams on the way to a championship instead of the usual 4. :flag:
Budkin
04-13-2015, 11:42 PM
Yeah, there's no circumstance where the Spurs punt that game.
I'm glad. Good tuneup for the playoffs and then we have at least 3 days to rest.
NASpurs
04-13-2015, 11:43 PM
Nuggets are doing everything to give away this game and the Clippers don't want it apparently.
Uriel
04-13-2015, 11:44 PM
LET'S GO NUGGETS!
SpursFan86
04-13-2015, 11:44 PM
Piece of shit Nuggets...smh
NASpurs
04-13-2015, 11:45 PM
:lol fucking scrubs being scrubs per par
Uriel
04-13-2015, 11:45 PM
Fuck.
Spur|n|Austin
04-13-2015, 11:46 PM
Nothing, unless HOU loses their next game. We NEED to win the division to avoid #5. However, if the Clips DO lose, and Houston loses their next game, we can punt Wednesday, assuming GS doesn't have the most massive collapse in history in the 4th Q tonight. If EACH team in the tie (HOU,MEM,LAC) loses one game, we can punt, and accept a 4 way tie and get #2. If any of them win out, we must win to keep #2.
:tu
TheGreatYacht
04-13-2015, 11:47 PM
Clippers call a timeout... refs give Doc Rivers an and-1
timtonymanu
04-13-2015, 11:47 PM
Scrub team doing scrub things. smh Denver.
MultiTroll
04-13-2015, 11:47 PM
just like that Denver pisses away the 6 point lead.
BillMc
04-13-2015, 11:48 PM
Jesus Memphis has rallied.
exstatic
04-13-2015, 11:49 PM
WTF happened to GS? They're only up 6 with 25 seconds left,
SpurPadre
04-13-2015, 11:49 PM
Yeah, I still expect the Clips to win the game. But I don't fear them at all for the Spurs. Warriors and maybe Cavs are our only serious threats.
True but I do think the Clips could push us or the Dubs to 7.
Budkin
04-13-2015, 11:49 PM
Jesus Memphis has rallied.
Now down 7 with 25 seconds left.
ElNono
04-13-2015, 11:49 PM
A Clippers/Memphis loss clinches a top 3 seed?
NASpurs
04-13-2015, 11:49 PM
Wait what?! 108-101 GSW? wtf :lol
ElNono
04-13-2015, 11:50 PM
True but I do think the Clips could push us or the Dubs to 7.
No, just no. Clippers are 2nd round fodder at best, IMO.
Budkin
04-13-2015, 11:50 PM
Nuggets choke.
Budkin
04-13-2015, 11:52 PM
Oh shit Grizzles won't die!
NASpurs
04-13-2015, 11:52 PM
That asshole Randy Foye makes that 3 against the Spurs all the time :lol
MultiTroll
04-13-2015, 11:52 PM
the fuck is Denvers offensive plan?
Uriel
04-13-2015, 11:52 PM
Fuck you Denver for giving us all false hope. :lol
Darius Bieber
04-13-2015, 11:53 PM
Lol Denver choking and GS semi-choking per par when it helps the Spurs.
Budkin
04-13-2015, 11:53 PM
4PT game in GS.
exstatic
04-13-2015, 11:53 PM
110-106 GSW with like 13 left
Budkin
04-13-2015, 11:54 PM
Livingston seals it... Whew
SpurPadre
04-13-2015, 11:54 PM
No, just no. Clippers are 2nd round fodder at best, IMO.
They got bragging rights over the Dubs in a blood feud and Pop will use hack-a-Jordan which is always a 50/50 strategy, tbh.
ElNono
04-13-2015, 11:55 PM
They got bragging rights over the Dubs in a blood feud and Pop will use hack-a-Jordan which is always a 50/50 strategy, tbh.
They're a terribly coached team with no bench, a single point of failure and a well known playoff choker. Pretenders.
ElNono
04-13-2015, 11:56 PM
I have Spurs in 5 in a potential Clippers series... and I'm being generous...
MultiTroll
04-13-2015, 11:56 PM
Does Denver have incentive to throw this game?
Sure looks like that is what is coming down.
Mugen
04-13-2015, 11:57 PM
:lmao golden state
Budkin
04-13-2015, 11:57 PM
Oh shit... spoke too soon...
Uriel
04-13-2015, 11:58 PM
They're a terribly coached team with no bench, a single point of failure and a well known playoff choker. Pretenders.
The Spurs would likely beat the Clippers in a 7-game series, especially with homecourt advantage. But the Clippers have the 2nd best point differential in the NBA (just behind Golden State) and are being pegged by many statistical models as the 2nd best team in the league (largely based on that point differential). I'd much rather have them beat up Golden State in the 2nd round than play us.
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