Spurs trying to track down the 2/3/4 seed

[SpurPadre]

Does Denver have incentive to throw this game?
Sure looks like that is what is coming down.

Well the fucking assholes did bench Danilo for no reason and coming off a 40+ scoring game. He has the whole off-season to rest. Fuckers.

[Budkin]

Whew that was close...

[BillMc]

Oh shit... spoke too soon...

Golden State game just won't end.

[thiste]

The good news is, if GS has an awful bench, they stand no chance against us.

[exstatic]

Thank God. GS hung on for 4 point win.

[SpurPadre]

The Spurs would likely beat the Clippers in a 7-game series, especially with homecourt advantage. But the Clippers have the 2nd best point differential in the NBA (just behind Golden State) and are being pegged by many statistical models as the 2nd best team in the league (largely based on that point differential). I'd much rather have them beat up Golden State in the 2nd round than play us.

Yeah, overlooking the Clips is false-bravado, tbh.

[BillMc]

Thank God. GS hung on for 4 point win.

Good. Now we get the 2 seed with a win. No other games matter.

[Mugen]

The Clippers are a garbage team tbh. Pretenders that will be exposed in the 2nd round unless the Spurs and Warriors decide to just quit basketball.

I'm more scared of an injured Rockets team than I am of the Clippers at full strength.

[ElNono]

The Spurs would likely beat the Clippers in a 7-game series, especially with homecourt advantage. But the Clippers have the 2nd best point differential in the NBA (just behind Golden State) and are being pegged by many statistical models as the 2nd best team in the league (largely based on that point differential). I'd much rather have them beat up Golden State in the 2nd round than play us.

Regular season numbers means very little. Now you get into matchups, coaching, exploiting deficiencies... I don't understand why we gotta have this conversation every year, tbh

[Uriel]

Wednesday's game against New Orleans is going to be a bloodbath. A win or loss will likely be the difference between the 2 and the 6 seed. Meanwhile, the Pelicans will be fighting for their playoff lives.

[RD2191]

I wouldn't be shocked if we lost to the Clips in the 2nd round, tbh.

[TVI]

Thank God. GS hung on for 4 point win.
Lol. It was a 26 pt game with 6:23 left.

[TheGreatYacht]

The good news is, if GS has an awful bench, they stand no chance against us.
They have a pretty good bench, tbh..

Livingston, Barbosa, Iggy, Lee, Speights

[ElNono]

The Clippers are a garbage team tbh. Pretenders that will be exposed in the 2nd round unless the Spurs and Warriors decide to just quit basketball.

I'm more scared of an injured Rockets team than I am of the Clippers at full strength.

Exactly. I don't fear the Rockets, I just rather avoid them largely on the refs bullshit. I would gladly take a series against the Clippers over them.

[ElNono]

Yeah, overlooking the Clips is false-bravado, tbh.

No, it's not. Heck, if they play Memphis or Rockets in the 1st round, I could easily see them losing.

[exstatic]

OK, for #2, we just have to go get it Wednesday.

[timtonymanu]

Count me in as one of those not afraid of the Clippers.

I still prefer playing them over Houston.

[SpursFan86]

Wednesday is either going to be really great, or really shitty.

Win --> get the 2nd seed, HCA over every team besides Golden State and Atlanta

Lose --> likely drop to 6th, have to play LAC or Houston in the first round without HCA, then also will likely play the 2nd round without HCA

[Mugen]

Literally every starter on the Clippers have flaws that are easily exploitable in the playoffs. Even if they do well, they have easily the worst bench of all the playoff teams.

[will_spurs]

Well the good news is that the Spurs are now in control. Win against the Pels and it's a guaranteed #2 seed...

[ace3g]

W (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/wins)
L (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/losses)
PCT (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/winpercent)
GB (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/gamesbehind)
HOME
ROAD
DIV
CONF
PF (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/avgpointsfor)
PA (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/avgpointsagainst)
DIFF (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/differential)
STRK (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/streak)
L10


1zGolden State Warriors (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/gs)
66
15
.815
-
38-2
28-13
13-3
41-10
109.7
99.5
+10.1
W3
8-2


2xSan Antonio Spurs (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/sa)
55
26
.679
11
33-8
22-18
8-7
32-19
103.2
96.9
+6.3
W11
10-0


3xHouston Rockets (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/hou)
55
26
.679
11
29-11
26-15
8-8
32-19
103.8
100.6
+3.2
W2
7-3


4yPortland Trail Blazers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/por)
51
30
.630
15
32-9
19-21
11-5
31-20
102.9
98.4
+4.5
L3
5-5


5xLos Angeles Clippers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/lac)
54
26
.675
11.5
29-11
25-15
11-4
35-15
106.6
100.1
+6.5
W5
9-1


6xMemphis Grizzlies (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/mem)
54
27
.667
12
30-10
24-17
9-7
35-17
98.4
95.2
+3.1
L2
4-6


7xDallas Mavericks (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/dal)
49
32
.605
17
26-14
23-18
7-9
28-23
105.1
102.4
+2.7
L1
5-5


8New Orleans Pelicans (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/no)
44
37
.543
22
27-13
17-24
7-8
28-23
99.2
98.5
+0.7
W1
7-3


Oklahoma City Thunder (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/okc)
44
37
.543
22
29-12
15-25
9-6
24-27
103.5
101.6
+1.9
W1
3-7

[TheGreatYacht]

JaMychal Green:
10pts, 8rebs, 2stl, 1blk, +18 :wakeup

[Budkin]

The Clippers are a garbage team tbh. Pretenders that will be exposed in the 2nd round unless the Spurs and Warriors decide to just quit basketball.

I'm more scared of an injured Rockets team than I am of the Clippers at full strength.

Same, Rockets right now are much better than Clippers.

[exstatic]

Yeah, overlooking the Clips is false-bravado, tbh.

Talent isn't their problem. Their PG is a choker, and they supposedly have locker room issues. Their "stars" don't like each other. That shit ALL gets exposed under playoff pressure.

[ElNono]

Literally every starter on the Clippers have flaws that are easily exploitable in the playoffs. Even if they do well, they have easily the worst bench of all the playoff teams.

Plus they have terrible tendencies. If you shut down Paul (and the Spurs have two guys to do that), they go to Jamal Crawford ISOs all night. They really have nobody else to create a shot.

[Mugen]

Everybody needs to be cheering for the Pacers on Wednesday tbh. They beat the Grizz and the Spurs can finish no lower than 5th. In fact, I'd prefer them lose to the Pelis in that scenario :lol

[SpurPadre]

We just have to weather the initial storm by the Pelicans in the first quarter. They're gonna come out guns blazing with a raucous crowd. If we keep it close after that, we'll be fine.

[RD2191]

Talent isn't their problem. Their PG is a choker, and they supposedly have locker room issues. Their "stars" don't like each other. That shit ALL gets exposed under playoff pressure.
Who said they have locker room issues?

[ElNono]

This warriors game also exposed a bit their inexperience and perhaps some tired legs... that was a brutal comeback by Memphis, even if it fell short...

[thiste]

They have a pretty good bench, tbh..

Livingston, Barbosa, Iggy, Lee, Speights

Who just almost blew a 32 points lead in one fucking quarter. How's that for confidence 1 game from playoffs start?

[timtonymanu]

This is the first time I've really analyzed the standings so sorry if this is a repetitive question, but wouldn't we be guaranteed a top 5 seed if we lose against the Pelicans but Houston/LAC/Memphis win their last games?

[Clipper Nation]

I wouldn't be shocked if we lost to the Clips in the 2nd round, tbh.
We would be swept by the Spurs. None of the games would even be close, tbh.

[ElNono]

This is the first time I've really analyzed the standings so sorry if this is a repetitive question, but wouldn't we be guaranteed a top 5 seed if we lose against the Pelicans but Houston/LAC/Memphis win their last games?

No. Memphis would be #2, Rockets #3, Portland #4, Clippers #5 and Spurs #6

[Mugen]

This is the first time I've really analyzed the standings so sorry if this is a repetitive question, but wouldn't we be guaranteed a top 5 seed if we lose against the Pelicans but Houston/LAC/Memphis win their last games?

Memphis has a tie breaker over us I believe. If we're only tied with them, then they get the higher said while the Rox would be 2nd and Clippers 3rd.

[Clipper Nation]

Talent isn't their problem. Their PG is a choker, and they supposedly have locker room issues. Their "stars" don't like each other. That shit ALL gets exposed under playoff pressure.
The "locker room issues" crap is just Simmons talking out of his ass. Talent is a problem, since our bench is so bad that Naismith spins in his grave whenever they check into the game.

[Mugen]

No. Memphis would be #2, Rockets #3, Portland #4, Clippers #5 and Spurs #6

Memphis is now a loss behind all 3 teams.

[SpursFan86]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Clippers just clinched HCA in the first round

[SpurPadre]

Talent isn't their problem. Their PG is a choker, and they supposedly have locker room issues. Their "stars" don't like each other. That shit ALL gets exposed under playoff pressure.

Yeah but our play against opposing star pgs has been problematic and hack-a-Jordan would be used and could either work or fail miserably. We should beat them but it wouldn't be a cakewalk by any stretch.

[Silver&Black]

So all we have to do is win against NO and we get the #2 seed? Am I correct?

[Mel_13]

So all we have to do is win against NO and we get the #2 seed? Am I correct?

Yes.

[BillMc]

So all we have to do is win against NO and we get the #2 seed? Am I correct?

Yep

[Mugen]

Like I said, gonna be a tough game Wed. But I think the Spurs send a message right before the playoffs and roll tbh.

[ducks]

So all we have to do is win against NO and we get the #2 seed? Am I correct?
That is all folks

[SpurPadre]

Who just almost blew a 32 points lead in one fucking quarter. How's that for confidence 1 game from playoffs start?

Lol, you think they were really trying at that point? They were probably using their iPhones in the court to tweet about looking forward to the playoffs while the Grizz were making their little comeback.

[timtonymanu]

Memphis has a tie breaker over us I believe. If we're only tied with them, then they get the higher said while the Rox would be 2nd and Clippers 3rd.

Thanks!

[ElNono]

Memphis is now a loss behind all 3 teams.

Oh, ok, so it would be Rockets #2, Clippers #3, Portland #4, Memphis #5, Spurs #6

[Cloud786]

Alright guys here are the potential scenarios for the last game for everyone.

Current standings:
1). Warriors: 66-15
2). Spurs: 55-26
3). Clippers: 55-26
4). Blazers: 51-30
5). Rockets: 55-26
6). Grizzlies: 54-27
7). Mavericks: 49-32
8). Pelicans: 44-37
9). Thunder: 44-37

Final games:
Spurs @ Pelicans
Clippers @ Suns
Jazz @ Rockets
Pacers @ Grizzlies

Scenario #1:
If Spurs, Clippers, Rockets, Grizzlies all win
- Spurs will be 2nd seed, Clippers will be 3rd, Rockets will be 5th, Grizzlies will be 6th
- This is the most likely scenario

Scenario #2:
If Clippers win, Rockets win, Grizzlies win; Spurs lose
- Rockets will be 2nd seed, Clippers will be 3rd, Grizzlies will be 5th, Spurs will be 6th
- This is the worst case scenario

Scenario #3:
If Spurs win, Rockets win, Clippers win; Grizzlies lose
- Spurs will be 2nd, Clippers will be 3rd, Rockets will be 5th, Grizzlies will be 6th

Scenario #4:
If Spurs win, Rockets win, Grizzlies win; Clippers lose
- Spurs will be 2nd, Rockets will be 3rd, Clippers will be 5th, Grizzlies will be 6th
- This is the best case scenario

Scenario #5:
If Spurs win, Grizzlies win, Clippers win; Rockets lose
- Spurs will be 2nd, Clippers will be 3rd, Grizzlies will be 5th, Rockets will be 6th

Scenario #6:
If Rockets win, Clippers win; Spurs lose, Grizzlies lose
- Rockets will be 2nd, Clippers will be 3rd, Spurs will be 5th, Grizzlies will be 6th
- This scenario isn't too bad either (this is the only way Spurs get 5th seed)

Scenario #7:
If Clippers win, Grizzlies win; Spurs lose, Rockets lose
- Clippers will be 2nd, Spurs will be 3rd, Grizzlies will be 5th, Rockets will be 6th

Scenario #8:
If Rockets win, Grizzlies win; Spurs lose, Clippers lose
- Rockets will be 2nd, Clippers will be 3rd, Grizzlies will be 5th, Spurs will be 6th


I only listed most scenarios with only of the teams losing. If more than one team loses, then it can change things up further. But all the Spurs have to do is win, and they are 2nd seed. In the unlikely event that all 4 teams lose, Spurs will still be 2nd seed.

[timtonymanu]

Wednesday night is going to be exciting as hell.

[timtonymanu]

Oh, ok, so it would be Rockets #2, Clippers #3, Portland #4, Memphis #5, Spurs #6

Thanks!

[Silver&Black]

Yes.

My nigga...


Yep

My nigga...


That is all folks

My nigga...

[ElNono]

Looks like with these results we can't fall to #5 anymore, tbh.... that kinda sucks, as Portland would be easy pickings...

[ironman2886]

Alright guys here are the potential scenarios for the last game for everyone.

Current standings:
1). Warriors: 66-15
2). Spurs: 55-26
3). Clippers: 55-26
4). Blazers: 51-30
5). Rockets: 55-26
6). Grizzlies: 54-27
7). Mavericks: 49-32
8). Pelicans: 44-37
9). Thunder: 44-37

Final games:
Spurs @ Pelicans
Clippers @ Suns
Jazz @ Rockets
Pacers @ Grizzlies

Scenario #1:
If Spurs, Clippers, Rockets, Grizzlies all win
- Spurs will be 2nd seed, Clippers will be 3rd, Rockets will be 5th, Grizzlies will be 6th
- This is the most likely scenario

Scenario #2:
If Clippers win, Rockets win, Grizzlies win; Spurs lose
- Rockets will be 2nd seed, Clippers will be 3rd, Grizzlies will be 5th, Spurs will be 6th
- This is the worst case scenario

Scenario #3:
If Spurs win, Rockets win, Clippers win; Grizzlies lose
- Spurs will be 2nd, Clippers will be 3rd, Rockets will be 5th, Grizzlies will be 6th

Scenario #4:
If Spurs win, Rockets win, Grizzlies win; Clippers lose
- Spurs will be 2nd, Rockets will be 3rd, Clippers will be 5th, Grizzlies will be 6th
- This is the best case scenario

Scenario #5:
If Spurs win, Grizzlies win, Clippers win; Rockets lose
- Spurs will be 2nd, Clippers will be 3rd, Grizzlies will be 5th, Rockets will be 6th


I only listed scenarios with only of the teams losing. If more than one team loses, then it can change things up further. But all the Spurs have to do is win, and they are 2nd seed. In the unlikely event that all 4 teams lose, Spurs will still be 2nd seed.
If Spurs lose and Rockets lose, don't the Spurs still get #3 seed?

[Mugen]

Looks like with these results we can't fall to #5 anymore, tbh.... that kinda sucks, as Portland would be easy pickings...

Clippers win, Rockets win, Spurs lose, Grizz lose = Spurs 5th seed

[Cloud786]

If Spurs lose and Rockets lose, don't the Spurs still get #3 seed?

If Spurs and Rockets lose with the Clippers and Grizzlies winning, then yes you are right the Clippers will be 2nd seed and the Spurs will be 3rd.

[ElNono]

Clippers win, Rockets win, Spurs lose, Grizz lose = Spurs 5th seed

:tu

[BillMc]

Clippers win, Rockets win, Spurs lose, Grizz lose = Spurs 5th seed

That's not such a far fetched scenario as the Pelicans and Pacers will be in do or die situations.

[Cloud786]

I added a couple more scenarios to my above post.

[ElNono]

That's not such a far fetched scenario as the Pelicans and Pacers will be in do or die situations.

I would still rather get the #2 seed, but if push comes to shove, that might be a good fallback

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0_rwMCMRHdE

[ElNono]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0_rwMCMRHdE

:lol this is why I wanted the Pels in, tbh... those fucking douchebags deserve the worst

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0_rwMCMRHdE

:depressed

[Silver&Black]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0_rwMCMRHdE

:lmao "You see my hat?"

You see our rings Russ?

[Silver&Black]

BTW...I don't ever remember it being this crazy at the end of the year. I love it though....

[SpurPadre]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0_rwMCMRHdE

Just because of that I'm almost hoping Pop starts Bonner, Ayres, and Anderson on Wednesday.

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0_rwMCMRHdE

Okay, Russ, you go ahead and root against the Spurs Wednesday. Hope you get your wish....

[SpursFan86]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCh4DjgWYAAISez.png:large

[ironman2886]

:lol this is why I wanted the Pels in, tbh... those fucking douchebags deserve the worst
I guess the best case scenario to have Westbrook's hopes pissed on, are that the Spurs, Clippers, Rockets lose their next game. Thunder out, and Spurs still get the #2 seed. Could happen.

[Splits]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0_rwMCMRHdE

This faggot. I hope he gets raped by Magic tonight

[Cry Havoc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0_rwMCMRHdE

:lol All that's missing from that response is for him to put his fingers in the shape of a W and say "What-ever!" One of the most gifted athletes on the planet and he has the mentality of a 12 year old girl. OTOH, that would explain his taste in clothes.

[ElNono]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCh4DjgWYAAISez.png:large

you're missing at least one more option there: Loss, Win, Win, Loss... that would put the Spurs in #5

[MultiTroll]

If Pels and OKC Douchebags both lose, who gets #8 seed?

[Cloud786]

If Pels and OKC Douchebags both lose, who gets #8 seed?

Pels

[elbamba]

I think the clippers throw their game as they would love to play Portland at 5. I think they would risk it playing Spurs with HCA.

[ironman2886]

I think the clippers throw their game as they would love to play Portland at 5. I think they would risk it playing Spurs with HCA.
I would love to see a Clippers/Warriors matchup in round 2.

[Arcadian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0_rwMCMRHdE

:lol Still butthurt about the 2014 conference finals

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0_rwMCMRHdE

Reporter should have asked him if he's a fan of rescinded fouls.

[milkyway21]

This playoff picture is crazy.


CBS site listed Spurs @#5. NBA.com as #2(which I know)

No wonder Duncan is saying it's giving him headaches checking the playoff picture/standings, that's why he consults Tony Parker "he always knows" lol

Where the Spurs at exactly, #2 ?

[Horry Hipcheck]

This playoff picture is crazy.


CBS site listed Spurs @#5. NBA.com as #2(which I know)

No wonder Duncan is saying it's giving him headaches checking the playoff picture/standings, that's why he consults Tony Parker "he always knows" lol

Where the Spurs at exactly, #2 ?

Spurs are sitting at No. 2 currently, where they'll remain provided they beat New Orleans on Wednesday OR lose combined with a variety of other outcomes that result in them staying in 2nd.

[Horry Hipcheck]

:lol this is why I wanted the Pels in, tbh... those fucking douchebags deserve the worst

Much as I'd love for Westbrook to watch the Pelicans get curb stomped by the Dubs from his living room, at best he's got five games left to play this season. I'd be amazed to see the Thunder push GS to five games.

[ElNono]

Much as I'd love for Westbrook to watch the Pelicans get curb stomped by the Dubs from his living room, at best he's got five games left to play this season. I'd be amazed to see the Thunder push GS to five games.

It's not that. They didn't earn it. They had to go kicking and screaming to the league to rescind that technical. This is the same team that was favored with that ZBo suspension in game 7 of the playoffs last season.

It's utter bullshit and the Pels got the short end of that stick because they're a puny franchise. There's no way that happens if, say, the Lakeshow are in play.

They keep getting handouts and it just gives the league a bad rep.

[Horry Hipcheck]

It's not that. They didn't earn it. They had to go kicking and screaming to the league to rescind that technical. This is the same team that was favored with that ZBo suspension in game 7 of the playoffs last season.

It's utter bullshit and the Pels got the short end of that stick because they're a puny franchise. There's no way that happens if, say, the Lakeshow are in play.

They keep getting handouts and it just gives the league a bad rep.

Ah, yeah, that's true. I wasn't factoring in the rescinded technical.

[therealtruth]

It's not that. They didn't earn it. They had to go kicking and screaming to the league to rescind that technical. This is the same team that was favored with that ZBo suspension in game 7 of the playoffs last season.

It's utter bullshit and the Pels got the short end of that stick because they're a puny franchise. There's no way that happens if, say, the Lakeshow are in play.

They keep getting handouts and it just gives the league a bad rep.

In all honesty Zbo did throw a punch and the league has a zero tolerance policy on that.

[ElNono]

In all honesty Zbo did throw a punch and the league has a zero tolerance policy on that.

That fair, but I was unaware the league had any tolerance policy on repeat offenders when it comes to technicals. This wasn't his first dance.

[Kleese]

That fair, but I was unaware the league had any tolerance policy on repeat offenders when it comes to technicals. This wasn't his first dance.

36th technical the league has rescinded this year. It happens quite a bit.

[cd021]

In all honesty Zbo did throw a punch and the league has a zero tolerance policy on that.

KG hit someone in the nuts the game prior to a Celtics-Lakers game a couple of seasons ago and he only got fined. NBA kind of picks and chooses when zero tolerance applies.

[mudyez]

Best case scenario: Loss (we get extra focused, bye bye OKC), Loss, Loss, Loss (putting Rockets on the Dups side of the bracket)

[spurraider21]

:lol 6 seed 2 days ago... clinch the 2 seed with a win tomorrow

[mudyez]

:lol 6 seed 2 days ago... clinch the 2 seed with a win tomorrow

Yeah, usually the 82-reg season is a disaster coz nobody cares about wins. But this time every single loss/win back then in November/December counts. Just ask OKC! :)

[boutons_deux]

Yeah, usually the 82-reg season is a disaster coz nobody cares about wins. But this time every single loss/win back then in November/December counts. Just ask OKC! :)

3 words: Madison Square Garden

[kobyz]

Only playoff team that lost to fucking both lakers and knicks teams, you know then it will come to bites us, now instead of coming to the last game with secure 2 seed and free mind we in a worry place...

[TampaDude]

Spurs dropped so many winnable games this season. We should have locked up the #2 seed a week ago. Oh, well...at least we're peaking at the right time.

GO SPURS GO!!!!!

[UZER]

It's not that. They didn't earn it. They had to go kicking and screaming to the league to rescind that technical. This is the same team that was favored with that ZBo suspension in game 7 of the playoffs last season.

It's utter bullshit and the Pels got the short end of that stick because they're a puny franchise. There's no way that happens if, say, the Lakeshow are in play.

They keep getting handouts and it just gives the league a bad rep.

For a coach that knows shit and his only strategy is to cry about getting fouls, it's not surprising he boo hoo'd about Russell's tech. The guy is a joke coach.

[Agloco]

Wow, the Grizzlies almost came back against GSW. Phew

[Agloco]

If Pels and OKC Douchebags both lose, who gets #8 seed?

NOP

[Mel_13]

All the possible outcomes:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCh8_o0W0AItmoG.jpg

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25148305/nba-playoff-races-and-magic-numbers-update-for-april-14-2015

[Beaverfuzz]

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NBA.html

[Russ]

Executive summary:

Spurs win -- they have HCA throughout the playoffs (possible exception if GSW [likely] is in the WCF or if Atl. [unlikely] makes the Finals).

Spurs lose -- they start the playoffs at LAC (Staples) and likely have to win three straight road series to get to the Finals.

Reminds me of the final game in '99 (except tougher to win).

[FromWayDowntown]

That fair, but I was unaware the league had any tolerance policy on repeat offenders when it comes to technicals. This wasn't his first dance.

The league has rescinded his 15th technical once and his 16th (or 17th, really) technical.

Poor, misunderstood Russell Westbrook. If only the officials would just let him chirp about every single f'n call, he wouldn't have these problems.

[Beaverfuzz]

Executive summary:

Spurs win -- they have HCA throughout the playoffs (possible exception if GSW [likely] is in the WCF or if Atl. [unlikely] makes the Finals).

Spurs lose -- they start the playoffs at LAC (Staples) and likely have to win three straight road series to get to the Finals.

Reminds me of the final game in '99 (except tougher to win).

Wrong, not even close on your losing scenario.

[Dex]

The league has rescinded his 15th technical once and his 16th (or 17th, really) technical.

Poor, misunderstood Russell Westbrook. If only the officials would just let him chirp about every single f'n call, he wouldn't have these problems.

They do let him chirp about every single call, tbh. Dude never shuts up out there.

The fact that he only has "15" technicals throughout 82 games is the real mind-boggling part.

[FromWayDowntown]

They do let him chirp about every single call, tbh. Dude never shuts up out there.

The fact that he only has "15" technicals throughout 82 games is the real mind-boggling part.

No doubt. With all of the defense of Westbrook and his being unfairly impugned by Ed Malloy's technical on Sunday night, one wonders how many times he was told by the officiating crew to cool it. I'd agree generally that there wasn't anything obvious in that particular moment that appeared to justify a technical foul, but assuming that's true, there was almost certainly some sort of warning to Westbrook earlier in the game and the T was just the culmination of an evening's worth of pointed chatter.

I also wonder, if the league is rescinding technical fouls at such a high rate, what consequence is being imposed upon the officials who give out these erroneous Ts. Surely, if the league is having to act that frequently to correct those sorts of mistakes, its officials aren't doing a very good job in assessing whether conduct that is worthy of a technical foul.

[hater]

Unless the Clippers finish with a better record than everyone, the West's No. 2 seed will be the winner of the Southwest Division, currently led by the Spurs because of that extra game. If all three division contenders tie each other, then the Spurs take the title because they split four games with the Grizzlies and won three of four vs. the Rockets. The Grizzlies take any tiebreaker over the in that same scenario because of their better in-division record.

If the Spurs tie just the Grizzlies, though, then they lose the tiebreaker because Memphis cannot lose the next tiebreaker (in-division record, where their 9-7 beats San Antonio's not-yet-finished 8-7) and have clinched the one after that (in-conference record). Houston can only take the No. 2 seed if they finish with a better record than Memphis and San Antonio and at least tie the Clippers.

Things get really complicated if all four teams finish with the same record. The Southwest Division still takes the No. 2 seed, but the Clippers would have an opportunity to finish third ahead of both runners-up if they maintain their half-game lead over the Grizzlies for the best in-conference record.

The important thing to remember here is that some tiebreaker is going to be invoked to decide seeds Nos. 2 and 3 or Nos. 5 and 6. The latter battle is especially notable, because whoever wins that is going to hold homecourt advantage in the first round over the No. 4 Blazers.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/nba-playoff-picture-update--creeping-towards-clarity-081530288.html

[SASdynasty!]

Unless the Clippers finish with a better record than everyone, the West's No. 2 seed will be the winner of the Southwest Division, currently led by the Spurs because of that extra game. If all three division contenders tie each other, then the Spurs take the title because they split four games with the Grizzlies and won three of four vs. the Rockets. The Grizzlies take any tiebreaker over the in that same scenario because of their better in-division record.

If the Spurs tie just the Grizzlies, though, then they lose the tiebreaker because Memphis cannot lose the next tiebreaker (in-division record, where their 9-7 beats San Antonio's not-yet-finished 8-7) and have clinched the one after that (in-conference record). Houston can only take the No. 2 seed if they finish with a better record than Memphis and San Antonio and at least tie the Clippers.

Things get really complicated if all four teams finish with the same record. The Southwest Division still takes the No. 2 seed, but the Clippers would have an opportunity to finish third ahead of both runners-up if they maintain their half-game lead over the Grizzlies for the best in-conference record.

The important thing to remember here is that some tiebreaker is going to be invoked to decide seeds Nos. 2 and 3 or Nos. 5 and 6. The latter battle is especially notable, because whoever wins that is going to hold homecourt advantage in the first round over the No. 4 Blazers.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/nba-playoff-picture-update--creeping-towards-clarity-081530288.html
These are the scenarios for the last game of the season for each team after last night's games.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCh8_o0W0AItmoG.jpg


We get the 2 seed with either a win OR a Clippers AND Rockets loss.
We can still get the 3 seed with a Clippers win AND Rockets loss (if we lose).
We get the homecourt 5 seed with a Rockets win AND Grizzlies loss (if we lose).
The only way we don't get homecourt is with a Rockets AND Grizzlies win (if we lose).

[cjw]

I also wonder, if the league is rescinding technical fouls at such a high rate, what consequence is being imposed upon the officials who give out these erroneous Ts. Surely, if the league is having to act that frequently to correct those sorts of mistakes, its officials aren't doing a very good job in assessing whether conduct that is worthy of a technical foul.

Surprising that the league didn't send out an edict to those officiating that game not to T up Russ unless absolutely deserved. Better to not have the T from a PR perspective than have to go rescind it.

[spurs10]

These are the scenarios for the last game of the season for each team after last night's games.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCh8_o0W0AItmoG.jpg


We get the 2 seed with either a win OR a Clippers AND Rockets loss.
We can still get the 3 seed with a Clippers win AND Rockets loss (if we lose).
We get the homecourt 5 seed with a Rockets win AND Grizzlies loss (if we lose).
The only way we don't get homecourt is with a Rockets AND Grizzlies win (if we lose).


Thanks SASdynasty! this is very clear cut. Wednesday night is going to be a big one! :flag:

[Ditty]

Just a small thought, maybe the Clippers lose on purpose tonight to have an easier match up in Portland and have a chance to knock off GSW is the second round again plus less travel. Clips match up pretty well with GSW imo.

[hater]

well we gonna have to go out and win our game cause no way Houston or Clippers lose. they have home games vs. lottery teams.

Spurs will have to go and try to win unfortunately.

[ElNono]

36th technical the league has rescinded this year. It happens quite a bit.

How many of those were the 16th T for the same player in a season? It's ridiculous. This guy basically had a T every 5 games.

EDIT: thanks for the info FWD!

[BillMc]

These are the scenarios for the last game of the season for each team after last night's games.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCh8_o0W0AItmoG.jpg


We get the 2 seed with either a win OR a Clippers AND Rockets loss.
We can still get the 3 seed with a Clippers win AND Rockets loss (if we lose).
We get the homecourt 5 seed with a Rockets win AND Grizzlies loss (if we lose).
The only way we don't get homecourt is with a Rockets AND Grizzlies win (if we lose).



Cheers! Many thanks! (And I like the title "Bloodbath of Death!" How true!)

[FromWayDowntown]

Surprising that the league didn't send out an edict to those officiating that game not to T up Russ unless absolutely deserved. Better to not have the T from a PR perspective than have to go rescind it.

I'm all for anything that makes Ed Malloy look like a bad official because, frankly, I think he's a bad official. If the league's decision on Westbrook is the recognition that Malloy made a significant mistake, I'm all for that -- his continued inclusion among the elite officials in the game is bad for the league and bad for the teams who must play high stakes games in which he is involved, and if enough mistakes will cause him to get fewer of those high stakes games, the better. Still, I'd feel better about the T being rescinded if we knew more about why it was rescinded; beyond simply "the circumstance didn't warrant a technical."

But I agree with this point: if you're going to take a lax view to technicals once a player gets close to the suspension, then either tell officials not to hand out T's to those guys unless the situation is outrageously bad or stand by the T's your referees hand out and let the rule serve it's purpose. As it is, the league has now developed a lot of precedent to suggest that once a player starts getting close to a suspension for aggregated Technicals, it will frequently step in to rescind where the player might face suspension:

1. Rasheed Wallace in 2009:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3936906

2. Dwight Howard in 2009 Playoffs:

http://niketalk.com/t/179775/nba-rescinds-howards-sixth-technical-foul-of-playoffs

3. Amare Stoudemire in 2011:

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/knicks/nba-rescinds-stoudemire-technical-foul-amar-play-indiana-sunday-blog-entry-1.1641640

4. DeMarcus Cousins in 2012:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/sacramento-kings-demarcus-cousins-suspension-overturned/#__federated=1

5. DeMarcus Cousins in 2013:

http://www.timescolonist.com/sports/basketball/kings-demarcus-cousins-to-play-after-nba-rescinds-16th-technical-foul-of-season-1.111313

6. Kobe Bryant in 2013:

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-news-kobe-bryant-has-technical-foul-rescinded/2013/02/26/

7. Kevin Durant in 2014:

https://twitter.com/darnellmayberry/status/447790874760454144

8. Russell Westbrook in 2015

[FromWayDowntown]

By the way, here's a complete list of accumulated technicals for the 2014-15 season and all of the rescinds:

http://mediacentral.nba.com/media/mediacentral/TechStatus.pdf

[cjw]

7. Kevin Durant in 2014:
8. Russell Westbrook in 2015

But not Z-Bo last year... Thunder always league office favorites.

[beirmeistr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0_rwMCMRHdE

too dumb to understand the meaning of the question

[hater]

too dumb to understand the meaning of the question

pretty much

one or 2 variable questions, he can answer.

add 3 variables and he will pound his chest and show his teeth

add 4+ variables and the poop will start to fly

[Aztecfan03]

By the way, here's a complete list of accumulated technicals for the 2014-15 season and all of the rescinds:

http://mediacentral.nba.com/media/mediacentral/TechStatus.pdf

SO spurs players had 8 total and no rescinds . Baynes-2, parker-2, joseph,diaw,duncan,ayres all had 1. Popovich also had 8 and no rescinds.

[will_spurs]

How many of those were the 16th T for the same player in a season? It's ridiculous. This guy basically had a T every 5 games.

Don't forget this 16th T has been rescinded twice in the last seven games.

Obviously the league prefers the "Westbrook as the ultimate hero-mode chucker" narrative to allowing us to watch AD grow...

[SASdynasty!]

Cheers! Many thanks! (And I like the title "Bloodbath of Death!" How true!)
Grabbed this from the internets...CBS Sports I believe.

[daslicer]

Don't forget this 16th T has been rescinded twice in the last seven games.

Obviously the league prefers the "Westbrook as the ultimate hero-mode chucker" narrative to allowing us to watch AD grow...

It seems like the league in general tends to favor marketing perimeter players over bigmen all the time.

[Malik Hairston]

The NBA has rescinded like 40 technical fouls, this year..

The refs are a bigger problem than any alleged marketing bias IMO..I also find it kind of stupid that the league even considers suspending players for accrued technical fouls, considering the officials play a substantial part in issuing them..they could increase fines after the player reaches the 16th T, but I don't agree with suspending them..

[Malik Hairston]

For example, look at the Technical foul that was issued to Aron Baynes vs. Dwight Howard the other night..immediately following that play, Jason Terry did the same thing to Marco Belinelli, yet he wasn't given a T..

I don't think you should suspend players for something that is controlled by incompetent NBA officials..

[apalisoc_9]

For example, look at the Technical foul that was issued to Aron Baynes vs. Dwight Howard the other night..immediately following that play, Jason Terry did the same thing to Marco Belinelli, yet he wasn't given a T..

I don't think you should suspend players for something that is controlled by incompetent NBA officials..

I agree.

Does anyone know What's the ruling on flagrant fouls ?

IMO, three flagrant fouls = one game suspension...

At least flagrant fouls can be reviewed in game.

[Cloud786]

Was Baynes' tech rescinded?

[MultiTroll]

Does Phoenix have any incentive lotto pick wise to try to win vs the Clippers?

[apalisoc_9]

Suns have a bunch of weird players..They have two/three players that can get hot and really compete.

At home, after a spurs loss...

Imo, there's a chance they lose. Would have been nice if Houston plays their last game today..

[SpursFan86]

Suns have a bunch of weird players..They have two/three players that can get hot and really compete.

At home, after a spurs loss...

Imo, there's a chance they lose. Would have been nice if Houston plays their last game today..

Are they still as injured as they were against us? I'd like their chances more if they had more than 7 or 8 active players on the roster :lol

But yeah, here's to hoping Markieff and Bledsoe go off and manage to steal a win...LAC played a tough game last night, so who knows.

[Mel_13]

Indy needs to beat Washington tonight. They're our backup plan to avoid the 6 seed in case of a loss to the Pels. If they win tonight, they'll be able to secure a playoff berth tomorrow against Memphis.

[SpursFan86]

Indy needs to beat Washington tonight. They're our backup plan to avoid the 6 seed in case of a loss to the Pels. If they win tonight, they'll be able to secure a playoff berth tomorrow against Memphis.

Agreed. Getting the 5th seed with HCA over Portland would be a fine consolation prize.

I just really hope we don't end up getting 6th. Would be pretty demoralizing to win 21 of our last 25, and only end up moving from 7th to 6th and have to play the Clippers or Houston without HCA in the first round.

[Malik Hairston]

Pacers struggling with the Wizards..smh..

[apalisoc_9]

Indy needs to beat Washington tonight. They're our backup plan to avoid the 6 seed in case of a loss to the Pels. If they win tonight, they'll be able to secure a playoff berth tomorrow against Memphis.

Why would that matter though?

They still have to play at high level tomorrow regardless if they lose tonight or not...Sure it's tougher but a BKY loss tom and a win for them tom gets them to the playoffs?

or am I something?

[Malik Hairston]

Why would that matter though?

They still have to play at high level tomorrow regardless if they lose tonight or not...Sure it's tougher but a BKY loss tom and a win for them tom gets them to the playoffs?

or am I something?

Brooklyn plays vs. Orlando before the Pacers game..if Indiana loses tonight and Brooklyn wins @ home vs. Orlando, Indiana has nothing to play for in the 9:30 PM game vs. Memphis, essentially giving the Grizzlies an easy W..

[apalisoc_9]

Brooklyn plays vs. Orlando before the Pacers game..if Indiana loses tonight and Brooklyn wins @ home vs. Orlando, Indiana has nothing to play for at the 9:30 PM game..

By the time the Indiana game starts it would be around the middle of the third..or Half time starts.

I don't know if players scoreboard watch during the game...

wouldn't it be the same if Indiana wins tonight and then BKY loses then what does Indiana have to play for?

[Mel_13]

Why would that matter though?

They still have to play at high level tomorrow regardless if they lose tonight or not...Sure it's tougher but a BKY loss tom and a win for them tom gets them to the playoffs?

or am I something?

What HH said.

[SpursFan86]

This game is so ugly... :lol

[ElNono]

dunno why, but I think the Suns can take the Clips tonight

[Malik Hairston]

By the time the Indiana game starts it would be around the middle of the third..or Half time starts.

I don't know if players scoreboard watch during the game...

wouldn't it be the same if Indiana wins tonight and then BKY loses then what does Indiana have to play for?

True, but there's a pretty good chance that Brooklyn will blow them out at home, especially after being embarrassed on Monday..

[Malik Hairston]

I love George, but he just isn't a PG..very good player, much improved, but he's never going to be a PG in this league..

Every Indiana possession takes like 15 seconds to start, they've needed a real PG for like 3 years, yet Bird hasn't realized that Hill is a 2-guard:lol..

[Malik Hairston]

Former Spur Paul George with the goods, tbh..

Wizards probably win at the buzzer, though, and it'll be some ugly shot like a putback:lol..

[Silver&Black]

:lmao Beal

Where's that list at that had Beal over Kawhi?

[Ron Swanson]

I love basketball, but this WC race has me caring way too much about teams I normally don't give a flying fuck about.

[Malik Hairston]

Let's see Hill do the Spurs a favor here, tbh, 3 at the buzzer..

[Mel_13]

Memphis might hold that Indy offense under 60 points.

[apalisoc_9]

wow OT finsihed already and still 85 points.

:lmao

[Malik Hairston]

:lol fun fact regarding the great Eastern Conference playoff race: if Indiana loses both and Brooklyn loses vs. Orlando, the fucking Miami Heat can still make the playoffs..smh..

[Ron Swanson]

Recap of this Wiz/Pacers game:

http://v012o.popscreen.com/MTA0MjAwMTI4_o_cripple-fight---clips---south-park-studios.jpg

[ElNono]

finally Indy

[TheGreatYacht]

George Hill, Most improved player tbh

[look_at_g_shred]

Let's see Hill do the Spurs a favor here, tbh, 3 at the buzzer..
How is this doing Spurs a favor?

[SpursFan86]

Ohn Wall :lol

[ElNono]

Indy already looks tired as hell... they're gonna be dead tomorrow

[ElNono]

How is this doing Spurs a favor?

They play Memphis tomorrow, if they win this game and tomorrow, they would still have a shot to make the playoffs.

[Mel_13]

Georgie!

[GSH]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCjuhz3WMAEpFBs.jpg:large

[DesignatedT]

Gosh these teams suck. Such bullshit tbh.

[cjw]

Indy already looks tired as hell... they're gonna be dead tomorrow

Memphis is pretty beat up and can only move up in standings if one of Hou/SA/LAC lose.

[BillMc]

I love basketball, but this WC race has me caring way too much about teams I normally don't give a flying fuck about.

Truth. I'm wasting a night watching Clips-Suns for gods sake.

[Budkin]

Man Suns just getting annihilated.

[Ron Swanson]

So much for this game.

[BillMc]

Reggie Miller just declared DeAndre Jordan DPOY, though he did give some props to Kawhi.

[Beaverfuzz]

Suns just are shitting the bed.

[Beaverfuzz]

Reggie Miller just declared DeAndre Jordan DPOY, though he did give some props to Kawhi.

Not enough games played for Kawhi to win IMO.

[BillMc]

Not enough games played for Kawhi to win IMO.

That seems to be the theme of those who say he shouldn't get it.

[ElNono]

dunno why, but I think the Suns can take the Clips tonight

:lol.... smh

[apalisoc_9]

Gotta win tom..

Let the playoffs begin!!

[Budkin]

:lol.... smh

Suns have absolutely nothing to play for.

[ElNono]

Suns have absolutely nothing to play for.

yeah, and they made it a game against us.... for 3 quarters anyways...

[Obstructed_View]

Not enough games played for Kawhi to win IMO.

64 games isn't enough for Kawhi to get DPOY consideration, but 67 games is enough for Westbrook to get MVP consideration.

Jordan over Bogut and Leonard. Seriously, is this the worst award in the history of sports? Is it even close?

[RD2191]

:lol.... smh
Robdiaz level take tbh

[Mel_13]

Crazy season. One game left and there are still 5 possible playoff opponents for the Spurs.

[Clipper Nation]

64 games isn't enough for Kawhi to get DPOY consideration, but 67 games is enough for Westbrook to get MVP consideration.

Jordan over Bogut and Leonard. Seriously, is this the worst award in the history of sports? Is it even close?

The Heisman is worse. A so-called "best player" award that completely ignores two entire units of the roster and is now only ever given to the most hyped quarterback (or sometimes running back) on the most hyped power-conference team. The year Suh got passed over for the award in favor of Plug-and-Play Alabama System RB #4538 cemented the whole thing as a joke.

[BatManu20]

The Heisman is worse. A so-called "best player" award that completely ignores two entire units of the roster and is now only ever given to the most hyped quarterback on the most hyped power-conference team. The year Suh got passed over for the award in favor of Plug-and-Play Alabama System RB #4538 cemented the whole thing as a joke.

Agreed. The Heisman rarely goes to the deserving recipient. It's a pretty laughable award at this point.

[Ditty]

Well it looks like the Warriors are probably going to have a cake walk to the WCF going through the Thunder, and Rockets if the Spurs win tomorrow. Hopefully Memphis can give the Clips a tough series, as the match up pretty well with them if Memphis is healthy. Of course Dallas, and Memphis could be an easy calk to the WCF also. Just wanted someone to take out GSW, and thought the Clips could have a chance also. Seems like they don't want any part of them either.

[Beaverfuzz]

64 games isn't enough for Kawhi to get DPOY consideration, but 67 games is enough for Westbrook to get MVP consideration.

Jordan over Bogut and Leonard. Seriously, is this the worst award in the history of sports? Is it even close?

Westbrick is done, it's Curry and Harden's to fight over.

[Beaverfuzz]

Well it looks like the Warriors are probably going to have a cake walk to the WCF going through the Thunder, and Rockets if the Spurs win tomorrow. Hopefully Memphis can give the Clips a tough series, as the match up pretty well with them if Memphis is healthy. Of course Dallas, and Memphis could be an easy calk to the WCF also. Just wanted someone to take out GSW, and thought the Clips could have a chance also. Seems like they don't want any part of them either.


Not necessarily, Pelicans can give the Warriors a good run for their money. Everyone is giving the Warriors a free pass until they play the Spurs (whenever that happens), I think they struggle mightily in a seven game series vs just about anyone in the West.

[Beaverfuzz]

That seems to be the theme of those who say he shouldn't get it.

Yep, otherwise I'd give it to him if he played in six more games.

[BillMc]

Clipper bench strikes again...

[Ditty]

Not necessarily, Pelicans can give the Warriors a good run for their money. Everyone is giving the Warriors a free pass until they play the Spurs (whenever that happens), I think they struggle mightily in a seven game series vs just about anyone in the West.

Well in a perfect world we would win tomorrow, and Thunder lose to the Timberwolves, and the Pelicans make the playoffs but I don't see the second scenario happening unfortunately :lol. Hopefully Davis/Westbook, and Harden all play like MVP candidates in those series, and take GSW to seven games each, but at best think they will win two games at most in each series. Hopefully the best perimeter defenders will wear out Klay Thompson that he will revert back to his post season choking self if we play GSW in the conference finals.

[ace3g]

W (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/wins)
L (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/losses)
PCT (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/winpercent)
GB (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/gamesbehind)
HOME
ROAD
DIV
CONF
PPG (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/avgpointsfor)
OPP PPG (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/avgpointsagainst)
DIFF (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/differential)
STRK (http://espn.go.com/nba/standings/_/sort/streak)
L10


1zGolden State Warriors (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/gs)
66
15
.815
-
38-2
28-13
13-3
41-10
109.7
99.5
+10.1
W3
8-2


2xSan Antonio Spurs (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/sa)
55
26
.679
11
33-8
22-18
8-7
32-19
103.2
96.9
+6.3
W11
10-0


2xLos Angeles Clippers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/lac)
56
26
.683
10.5
30-11
26-15
12-4
37-15
106.7
100.1
+6.6
W7
9-1


4yPortland Trail Blazers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/por)
51
30
.630
15
32-9
19-21
11-5
31-20
102.9
98.4
+4.5
L3
5-5


5xHouston Rockets (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/hou)
55
26
.679
11
29-11
26-15
8-8
32-19
103.8
100.6
+3.2
W2
7-3


6xMemphis Grizzlies (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/mem)
54
27
.667
12
30-10
24-17
9-7
35-17
98.4
95.2
+3.1
L2
4-6


7xDallas Mavericks (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/dal)
49
32
.605
17
26-14
23-18
7-9
28-23
105.1
102.4
+2.7
L1
5-5


8New Orleans Pelicans (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/no)
44
37
.543
22
27-13
17-24
7-8
28-23
99.2
98.5
+0.7
W1
7-3


Oklahoma City Thunder (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/okc)
44
37
.543
22
29-12
15-25
9-6
24-27
103.5
101.6
+1.9
W1
3-7

[Malik Hairston]

:lol 2008 all over again:(

Lakers/Warriors as favorites with the MVP on the team

1 seed gets an easy bracket, vs a shitty Jazz team in 2008 and flawed Blazers/Rockets team in the 2nd round in 2015, while the Spurs will go against the 3rd best team in the conference led by Chris Paul..

[Floyd Pacquiao]

:lol 2008 all over again:(

Lakers/Warriors as favorites with the MVP on the team

1 seed gets an easy bracket, vs a shitty Jazz team in 2008 and flawed Blazers/Rockets team in the 2nd round in 2015, while the Spurs will go against the 3rd best team in the conference led by Chris Paul..
Wow, yeah looks like it :lol. At least we don't have an abundance of old and shitty role players this go around.

[apalisoc_9]

Wow, yeah looks like it :lol. At least we don't have an abundance of old and shitty role players this go around.

[spurraider21]

:lol 2008 spurs

http://i.gyazo.com/f2da53974358dc56542cd8427b71f319.png

[Cloud786]

http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/BLOODBATH041515.jpg

[spurs1990]

:lol 2008 spurs

http://i.gyazo.com/f2da53974358dc56542cd8427b71f319.png

15 Duncan = 08 Duncan
15 Parker < 08 Parker
15 Ginobili < 08 Ginobili
Leonard > Bowen
Splitter > Oberto
Mills > Vaughn
Green > Finley
Bellinelli > Barry
Diaw > Horry
Baynes = Thomas
Bonner = Udoka

[Obstructed_View]

The Heisman is worse. A so-called "best player" award that completely ignores two entire units of the roster and is now only ever given to the most hyped quarterback (or sometimes running back) on the most hyped power-conference team. The year Suh got passed over for the award in favor of Plug-and-Play Alabama System RB #4538 cemented the whole thing as a joke.

Yeah, I tend to agree that it's flawed, but it's voted on by recipients so they have nobody to blame. They kind of do the NBA MVP thing and do best player on best team, but they tend toward most popular on best team, which is how you end up with Geno Torretta and Danny Wuerffel getting the award. It's probably right more often than it's wrong, though. EJ picked Jordan as DPOY tonight and nobody even challenged it. That's beyond retarded.

[Obstructed_View]

Westbrick is done, it's Curry and Harden's to fight over.

Point is, he should never even have been in the discussion. He missed games and his heroball has made the team worse, not better. Leonard's missed three more games, but his contribution to the success of his team can't be denied.

[SASdynasty!]

http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/BLOODBATH041515.jpg
Thanks for this update, so the Spurs get the:

2 seed with a win.
3 seed with a Rockets loss (if we lose).
5 seed with a Rockets win and Grizzlies loss (if we lose).
6 seed with a Rockets and Grizzlies win (if we lose).

[Seventyniner]

http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/BLOODBATH041515.jpg

Crazy. Like Mel said, there are 5 possible playoff opponents with one game left.

[UZER]

Point is, he should never even have been in the discussion. He missed games and his heroball has made the team worse, not better. Leonard's missed three more games, but his contribution to the success of his team can't be denied.

Exactly. And in this media mouthpiece era, they skew arguments for players that have no business being in the discussion. As much as I love Davis, they are fighting for an 8th seed. Having him in the "discussion" is a slap in the face to all the all-stars before that played balls out and never even got a mention because they weren't darlings.

Kobe is another one. They seriously had him in MVP talks earlier in the season. Regardless of he was going to win or not, it's just wrong. You better believe if the Lakes were in a battle for 8th, they'd be itching to give him another one.

[Obstructed_View]

Exactly. And in this media mouthpiece era, they skew arguments for players that have no business being in the discussion. As much as I love Davis, they are fighting for an 8th seed. Having him in the "discussion" is a slap in the face to all the all-stars before that played balls out and never even got a mention because they weren't darlings.

Kobe is another one. They seriously had him in MVP talks earlier in the season. Regardless of he was going to win or not, it's just wrong. You better believe if the Lakes were in a battle for 8th, they'd be itching to give him another one.

I tend to agree with this, but I think Davis is really in the discussion because he's just such a good player. Can't argue with his numbers. Realistically, is he the second best player in the league behind Lebron? Probably. Another thing to keep in mind is that they're fighting for an 8th seed in a division where everyone else has made the playoffs. The team is better than where they sit in the standings. If they were in any other division in the west, they'd be a lock for the playoffs, and if they were in the east, they'd probably be fourth or fifth.

[boutons_deux]

Another thing to keep in mind is that they're fighting for an 8th seed in a division where everyone else has made the playoffs. The team is better than where they sit in the standings. If they were in any other division in the west, they'd be a lock for the playoffs, and if they were in the east, they'd probably be fourth or fifth.

That 3 EC teams in the playoffs have worse records than the Pelicans, who would have 6th seed in the EC, is annual evidence that playoffs determined by conference record rather league record is stupid, unfair to players and fans.

[Obstructed_View]

That 3 EC teams in the playoffs have worse records than the Pelicans, who would have 6th seed in the EC, is annual evidence that playoffs determined by conference record rather league record is stupid, unfair to players and fans.

Agree completely. We currently have a season where every team in one division is in playoff contention, while in the other conference, there are two teams with losing records in the playoffs. If the rules don't change this offseason, they never will.

[will_spurs]

As much as I love Davis, they are fighting for an 8th seed. Having him in the "discussion" is a slap in the face to all the all-stars before that played balls out and never even got a mention because they weren't darlings.

Let's play the old "reshuffle the league and the teams get to draft like in a pickup game."

AD goes second at worst. I guess that's why he belongs in the MVP discussion, even though he doesn't have a great surrounding cast and happens to be playing in the absolute worst division in NBA history (.635 average W-L ratio).

[travis2]

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With a couple of assumptions, these are estimates of the probability of each Spurs seed:

Spurs have 2 seed: 0.653
Spurs have 3 seed: 0.051
Spurs have 5 seed: 0.122
Spurs have 6 seed: 0.174

Assumptions:
1. Opening moneylines from CBSSports.com provide a reasonable basis for calculating the probability of a win
2. All games are independent

Calculation of game probabilities proceeded as follows:
1. Convert moneylines to decimal odds using http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed-odds_betting
2. Convert decimal odds to win %
3. Convert win % to probabilities by scaling to 100% (dividing win % by sum of win % for that game)

Seed probabilities were then calculated as the product of the individual game probabilities using the above table. Example: Win/Win/Win = (0.653)(0.854)(0.588)=0.328. All probabilities for 2 seed were then summed, as were probabilities for 3 seed. 5 and 6 have only one term each.

[z0sa]

Spurs need this win badly.

[21209]

It's looking more and more like the Spurs will either be facing the Mavericks or the Clippers in round one.

I don't see Houston or Memphis losing their finales even if both of their opponents have been hot as of late.

[will_spurs]

I don't see Houston or Memphis losing their finales even if both of their opponents have been hot as of late.

Indiana is in the playoffs if they win against Memphis. Add to that that Memphis will be missing players, and that they don't control their own fate (as in: they could win and finish 6th anyway), I could really see Memphis losing.

[cjw]

I don't see Houston or Memphis losing their finales even if both of their opponents have been hot as of late.

Memphis is favored by 3 by virtue of being home (perhaps with a combination of Indy logging heavy minutes yesterday). Indy needs to win to clinch playoff spot.

Utah has little incentive to win against Houston as it could help draft position vs. several other teams.

[timtonymanu]

Indiana will definitely play hard but they just came off a 2 OT game and Hill was limping. Don't know if they will have enough to beat Memphis. At this point, I'm just hoping for any seed but the 6th seed.

[Knoxxx]

So odds are with a loss we drop to 6th which is a bizarre situation but about what I figured.

[apalisoc_9]

6th is probably not that bad, IMO. Sure first round is going to be tough...but you win that round and you get an easier matchup against Houston or Dallas in the 2nd round..

[SpursFan86]

588411793132933120

Gasol and Green will be playing, but neither are 100% from the sound of things. It'd be huge if Memphis lost tonight vs. Indiana. If we do end up losing tonight, a Memphis loss + Houston win will give us the 5th seed with HCA in the 1st round.

[Old School 44]

Another explanation of the Wild West Wednesday from ESPN
Full story - http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3727/every-playoff-scenario-on-last-day-of-season

San Antonio will be seeded:


No. 2 if the Spurs win in New Orleans
No. 3 if the Spurs lose and the Rockets lose at home to Utah
No. 5 if the Spurs lose, the Rockets win and the Grizzlies lose at home to Indiana
No. 6 if the Spurs lose and the Rockets and Grizzlies win

The Los Angeles Clippers (http://www.spurstalk.com/nba/team/_/name/lac/los-angeles-clippers) will be seeded:


No. 2 if the Spurs and Rockets both lose
No. 3 if the Spurs OR Rockets win

Houston will be seeded:


No. 2 if the Rockets beat Utah and the Spurs lose
No. 5 if the Rockets and Spurs win OR the Rockets and Grizzlies both lose
No. 6 if the Rockets lose and Grizzlies win

Memphis will be seeded:


No. 5 if the Grizzlies win and the Spurs or Rockets lose
No. 6 if the Grizzlies lose OR the Spurs and Rockets both win

No. 8 seed


New Orleans clinches a playoff spot with a win over the Spurs OR a Thunder loss in Minnesota.
Oklahoma City clinches a playoff berth with a win in Minnesota AND a Pelicans loss to the Spurs.

P.S.: If the Pelicans prevail, it would mark just the third time in the last 30 seasons in which one division sent all of its teams to the playoffs, with the 2014-15 Southwest Division joining the 1985-86 Midwest and the 2005-06 Central. The Southwest’s composite .635 win percentage in that scenario, according to the Elias Sports Bureau, would be the highest of any division under the current format implemented in 2004-05.

[Malik Hairston]

Give me that 5 seed, tbh..

[Darth_Pelican]

Give me that 5 seed, tbh..

:bobo

[Seventyniner]

The Southwest’s composite .635 win percentage in that scenario, according to the Elias Sports Bureau, would be the highest of any division under the current format implemented in 2004-05.

The total win percentage in the division will be the same whether the Spurs win or lose, so the record could still be set even if the Pelicans don't make the playoffs.

[Malik Hairston]

:bobo

It's too bad the Grizzlies game is at 9:30, tbh:lol..have to assume they're going to win..

[cjw]

It's too bad the Grizzlies game is at 9:30, tbh:lol..have to assume they're going to win..

I kind of want the Grizzlies to have nothing to play for by then. It would mean Spurs are locked in as the 2, and Grizzlies are ideal opponent to wear down the Clippers in round 1.

Would also make sure Indy makes the playoffs (happy for former Spurs great Paul George Hill) and Atlanta gets into the lottery via the Nets pick swap.

[boutons_deux]

Spurs @2 means dal, clips, @gsw

[will_spurs]

Spurs @2 means dal, clips, @gsw

You'd better start hoping for Indiana to win against Memphis, this would get us the 5th seed...

Right now Houston is the huge winner.

[Russ]

Executive summary:

Spurs win -- they have HCA throughout the playoffs (possible exception if GSW [likely] is in the WCF or if Atl. [unlikely] makes the Finals).

Spurs lose -- they start the playoffs at LAC (Staples) and likely have to win three straight road series to get to the Finals.

Reminds me of the final game in '99 (except tougher to win).


Wrong, not even close on your losing scenario.

As I was saying . . . :rolleyes

[Budkin]

We got the absolute worst case scenario. Fuck this shit.

[Beaverfuzz]

As I was saying . . . :rolleyes

Do you want a cookie?

Faggot.

[Beaverfuzz]

We got the absolute worst case scenario. Fuck this shit.

Spurs got what they deserved. Time to nut up or shut up.

[Russ]

Do you want a cookie?

Faggot.

Your analysis hasn't improved. :lol

[SpurPadre]

Well, if Skip Bayless isn't cliff-jumping and still thinks we're going back to the Finals, none of you should be cliff-jumping, either. We can still get HCA in the Finals if we get that far and we weren't gonna get HCA against the Dubs anyways. Time to shock the world and FINALLY repeat.

[Beaverfuzz]

Your analysis hasn't improved. :lol

Neither has your basketball knowledge.

[TVI]

Well, this night was pure crap. Weeks spent clawing back to the number 2 spot only to end up number 6.

jesus h. effin' christ on a pogo stick...there are no words. 11 game winning streak snapped, and playoff seeding screwed with one shit quarter. I'm speechless.

[RD2191]

Well, this night was pure crap. Weeks spent clawing back to the number 2 spot only to end up number 6.

jesus h. effin' christ on a pogo stick...there are no words. 11 game winning streak snapped, and playoff seeding screwed with one shit quarter. I'm speechless.

[Budkin]

Well, this night was pure crap. Weeks spent clawing back to the number 2 spot only to end up number 6.

jesus h. effin' christ on a pogo stick...there are no words. 11 game winning streak snapped, and playoff seeding screwed with one shit quarter. I'm speechless.

Could not have said it better. No silver lining.

[will_spurs]

Could not have said it better. No silver lining.

Nobody got injured in that last game. Which is more that could be said in the past.

[weeks]

Fuck, we got the worst outcome possible. Goddammit

[TVI]

Nobody got injured in that last game. Which is more that could be said in the past.
Except Danny Green's confidence.
:downspin:

[K...]

Yeah it's weird but clippers have more wins than us. We were hoping to exploit some fluky tiebreaker scenarios in order to get the two spot. What the rules give they take away. We lost the straight up tie break with Memphis. They were bad down he stretch but took care of business early in the season and the very last few days. Houston, warriors, clippers, all worked their butts off trying to get a seed. So here we are. Nbd.

[313]

:lol We dont even know if the Spurs will make out of the 1st round

[kobyz]

Why to cause bringing back the old demons? That was horrible season and miserable time, to look back on it, it is torture, how the season was one big curse and mishandled by Pop, and to think we lost the title because of one regular season game is devestating...

[Sean Cagney]

Lost a title from one regular season game? How about a few losses during the year and not just one at the end that caused it? How about the horrible start to the season? The December slumps etc.? All of those things, not just one game that lost it but a few blown games. They never really had IT last year to be honest and I doubt they win the title if they squeak through that round one series, thing is they were just not consistent all year long. We hardly lost the title from one game though, they were never close to a title last year to "lose it" by losing one regular season game at the end. If they lost in the WCF late I can see the argument, but round one is not near a title.