The ST double standard ...

[SASdynasty!]

:lmao When you only get magazine covers alongside Duncan and Manu, since you're not good enough to get one of your own
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/79/e1/22/79e122fe0c346d746164f2696f8cc1f1.jpg

[RD2191]

:lol NOW raw stat matter
:lol -22
Is that all you got because it isn't helping your case at all. Parker was the worst player on the team last night.

[FkLA]

Are you stupid? Just bc he gets more FGAs doesn't mean he has the ball in his hands anywhere near as often as Enrique. He's standing in the corner the majority of the time so Enrique can do his dribble dribble dribble or two man game. Hence, the offense is ran through Enrique.

I wish what you are saying was true but its clearly not. Look at the Denver/OKC/GS games to see what a Kawhi centric offense looks like. He was fed early and often and ended up with 20+ in ~25 mins. When he is given that freedom and falters then talk shit, until then you don't have an argument.

I like how Brazil stopped responding after this. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

:lmao When you only get magazine covers alongside Duncan and Manu, since you're not good enough to get one of your own
Is your helmet a little tight? :lmao Parker probably has the most covers in Spurs history, besides the Admiral

You know Matrix's legacy is pathetic when ST users have to start a thread when he gets one First Take segment a year, you can't make this shit up lmao

[in2deep]

The players need to rotate over too faggot. I caught tony staying at the other end of the court without making himself available for a pass a couple of times. And the player getting the pass back needs to hit the 3. Tony and Diaw can't do that either.

This is just like earlier in the season. People blaming kawhi cause he couldn't score efficiently when his teammates didn't give him space to work with. This is the same thing. His teammates are fucking screwing him over again.

"he's new to doubles he needs help from his coach and team"

"spurs are screwing Kawhi over when he gets doubled"

and the excuses are mounting...

[RD2191]

6:33
Kawhi Leonard makes two point shot (Tim Duncan assists)




5:43
Kawhi Leonard makes free throw 1 of 2






8:21
Kawhi Leonard makes 11-foot jumper (Boris Diaw assists)




1:37
Kawhi Leonard makes 4-foot jumper




1:12
Kawhi Leonard makes 20-foot two point shot




9:40
Tiago Splitter makes layup (Kawhi Leonard assists)




2:59
Manu Ginobili makes 24-foot three point jumper (Kawhi Leonard assists)




2:13
Kawhi Leonard makes two point shot (Manu Ginobili assists)




1:19
Kawhi Leonard makes layup (Manu Ginobili assists)




0:00
Kawhi Leonard makes 25-foot three point jumper (Manu Ginobili assists)




11:12
Patty Mills makes 24-foot three point jumper (Kawhi Leonard assists)




4:28
Kawhi Leonard makes free throw 1 of 2




4:28
Kawhi Leonard makes free throw 2 of 2




:lolrefused to let parker drag the spurs down
:loldid the best he could while porker was chucking
:lolmore assist than the starting pg
:lolstill had 6 rebounds and 4 steals
:lolmanu always being a better pg than porker
Anyone? Anyone?

[ElNono]

I hope both guys turn things around... there's certainly time..

Just worried about Tony since he said his ankle was going to be sore today... hopefully it's not that bad and it doesn't hinder him for the rest of the series, tbh...

[Clipper Nation]

Start posting them...
http://cdn-jpg.si.com/sites/default/files/vault/covers/2007/0627_mid.jpg

I'm talking about actual magazine covers, not "commemorative editions."

http://i.imgur.com/VkAbv9S.jpg

:lol Enrique shoved off to the side, taking up the least amount of space on the cover

http://i.imgur.com/T3vt6rz.jpg

:lol Manu and Bowen listed ahead of Enrique in the picture caption
:lol Enrique featured equally as prominently as Fab Oberto

[dabom]

"he's new to doubles he needs help from his coach and team"

"spurs are screwing Kawhi over when he gets doubled"

and the excuses are mounting...

I bet you cried yourself to sleep when kawhi got FMVP. :lmao

[dabom]

I hope both guys turn things around... there's certainly time..

Just worried about Tony since he said his ankle was going to be sore today... hopefully it's not that bad and it doesn't hinder him for the rest of the series, tbh...

:lmao

[SASdynasty!]

:lmao When you only get magazine covers alongside Duncan and Manu, since you're not good enough to get one of your own
Here's one better for you:
http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20080625/293.parker.nbalive09.062508.jpg

[TheGreatYacht]

Fabricio Oberto has the same amount of covers as Matrix? Damn it's worse than I thought :lmao

[Brazil]

Every young player struggles with double teams when they first start seeing them. That's why it's up to the coach to have him and the team prepared for them.

Agreed

This is the final step for Kawhi... he got all the attention for opposing team now, up to him and the coach to move up to the next level. Now it's clear having another scoring threat is key for the Spurs especially when 3 pts shooting from DG and the others is off.

Spurs future in these POs rely on Kawhi leading with D attention, 3 pts shooting and having another scoring threat... Better Parker, Kawhi and Pop get their shit together or it could be ugly

[in2deep]

I bet you cried yourself to sleep when kawhi got FMVP. :lmao

player fans and their player achievements :rolleyes

[dabom]

Does anyone ever fucking understand the game of basketball anymore?

Like seriously? We have way too many faggots that don't.

[in2deep]

lol magazine cover smack

[FkLA]

Just worried about Tony since he said his ankle was going to be sore today... hopefully it's not that bad and it doesn't hinder him for the rest of the series, tbh...

Hopefully it leads to another quit and more MVPaddy tbh.

[TheGreatYacht]

I hope both guys turn things around... there's certainly time..

Just worried about Tony since he said his ankle was going to be sore today... hopefully it's not that bad and it doesn't hinder him for the rest of the series, tbh...
Parker will get it going... What's worrisome is that Doc is exploiting Kawhi's lack of playmaking and dribbling ability. Genius move while Pop is playing checkers

[RD2191]

Here's one better for you:
http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20080625/293.parker.nbalive09.062508.jpg
I remember that Game, I popped it into my xbox and my xbox started to play dead. Piece of shit played possum with me.

[SASdynasty!]

I'm talking about actual magazine covers, not "commemorative editions."

http://i.imgur.com/VkAbv9S.jpg

:lol Enrique shoved off to the side, taking up the least amount of space on the cover

http://i.imgur.com/T3vt6rz.jpg

:lol Manu and Bowen listed ahead of Enrique in the picture caption
:lol Enrique featured equally as prominently as Fab Oberto
Yet Tony's name is above Duncan's...lol as he's centered in the picture. Check that helmet bro.

[will_spurs]

All while being outscored by Parker in that series and that entire playoffs and that entire season and their entire careers.

:stirpot:

[Cry Havoc]

lol magazine cover smack

He's a Clippers fan. That's all you need to know. :lol

[RD2191]

Does anyone ever fucking understand the game of basketball anymore?

Like seriously? We have way too many faggots that don't.
they're delusional like kobe fans, tbh. some of these dudes have to have mental health problems.

[Brazil]

I like how Brazil (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14466) stopped responding after this. :lol

dude, go back you will see I answered you. On game 1, Kawhi had a higher usage than Parker, you like it or not. And again if he cannot handle double teams his usage is gonna plummet and you will blame Parker for that... :lol

[NASpurs]

I remember that Game, I popped it into my xbox and my xbox started to play dead. Piece of shit played possum with me.

:lmao

[Mikeanaro]

bad game but who on the spurs played better? Parker with his 4-11 shooting, 2 turnovers and 1 assist? 1 ASSIST FROM OUR STARTING PG. Tim had 4 assist, Kawhi had 3, Boris had 5, and Manu had 6. our starting PG had 1. Just 1. Uno for our spanish speaking audience.
UNO!? UNITO!???
:lmao elite PG
:lmao Porktards trying to blame the moon
:lmao he was dead from the start, even doctors can confirm that.
:lmao lost too many steps.
:lmao Defense? only if its a ham sandwich.

[dabom]

they're delusional like kobe fans, tbh. some of these dudes have to have mental health problems.

:lmao

[SASdynasty!]

I'm talking about actual magazine covers, not "commemorative editions."

http://i.imgur.com/VkAbv9S.jpg

:lol Enrique shoved off to the side, taking up the least amount of space on the cover

http://i.imgur.com/T3vt6rz.jpg

:lol Manu and Bowen listed ahead of Enrique in the picture caption
:lol Enrique featured equally as prominently as Fab Oberto
Lol, if you're going to use your double standards, at least don't do it in the same post. Hahahaha wow.

[TheGreatYacht]

My nigga Dynasty, why'd you have to do this :lmao


http://youtu.be/iMR0hNkrSTg

[apalisoc_9]

UNO!? UNITO!???
:lmao elite PG
:lmao Porktards trying to blame the moon
:lmao he was dead from the start, even doctors can confirm that.
:lmao lost too many steps.
:lmao Defense? only if its a ham sandwich.

:lmao

[Keepin' it real]

nobody is capable anymore to have a fair statement or discussion about anything

10,000 trolls and no moderators ... the results are inevitable

[RD2191]

UNO!? UNITO!???
:lmao elite PG
:lmao Porktards trying to blame the moon
:lmao he was dead from the start, even doctors can confirm that.
:lmao lost too many steps.
:lmao Defense? only if its a ham sandwich.
:lmao

[Brazil]

Is that all you got because it isn't helping your case at all. Parker was the worst player on the team last night.

this is exactly what you :lol about when somebody was using raw stat for defending Parker :lol

make up your mind... raw stat are useful or not ? when Parker was with 18 pts shooting 7/12 you would use the +/- but this is not useful anymore ? sorry for highlighting your contradictions brah

[Clipper Nation]

Here's one better for you:
http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20080625/293.parker.nbalive09.062508.jpg

:lol Big fucking whoop, Andrea Bargnani made the cover that year too:

http://i.imgur.com/OMGPkpP.jpg

[taps]

A de facto Parker Shithouse thread: Playoffs Edition could be useful.

[wildbill2u]

Anyone? Anyone?

I'd like to know what he was doing between the assist at the 11:12 mark and the free throws at 4:28. We sure could have used some offense from our max player during those 7 minutes. Just askin'

But I don't blame him for the loss. It's a team game and we had a bunch of players who could have played better.

I want to believe that all of them will come back and play like champions.

[jag]

This Parker vs Kawhi stuff is really odd. There are 4-5 posters who think they're dropping truth bombs by pointing out Tony's poor performances. As if everyone else can't see it as well. If they weren't retarded, they'd realize no one is defending Tony's poor play. People are just tired of the played out shtick.

There's no point in arguing with these people while bringing actual basketball takes, because they aren't concerned with the play or the results. They root for one or two players to do well, while also rooting against one or two players, then they take to the forums and run shtick.

This is the type of nonsense people are trying to debate:

It didn't really matter that Kawhi held the ball too long or had bad passes while double teamed.

:lol you're not going to convince these retards of anything. They want attention and you're giving it to them.

[RD2191]

Plus minus






7
Kawhi Leonard (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6450/kawhi-leonard), SF
SA
64
31.8
3.51
4.92
8.43
13.77








443
Tony Parker (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1015/tony-parker), PG
SA
68
28.7
0.25
-3.66
-3.41
-1.29

[SASdynasty!]

:lol Big fucking whoop, Andrea Bargnani made the cover that year too:
You said Parker never made covers. Just helping you out. You know, before you make statements, you should at least do a quick Google search to confirm that the people can't call BS in less than 5 seconds.

[jag]

Kawhi is better than Tony. Who knew? Solid take

[TheGreatYacht]

Plus Minus

Belinelli +5

CancerJo -18

Matrix -21

[RD2191]

There really is nothing to debate. "Raw stats" or metrics. Kawhi is far superior in both.

[dabom]

Plus Minus

Belinelli +5

CancerJo -18

Matrix -21

Joe you trying to hard again. Pitty reply since everyone has ignored you. Remember when you actually riled people up. Not anymore. :lmao

[SASdynasty!]

This Parker vs Kawhi stuff is really odd. There are 4-5 posters who think they're dropping truth bombs by pointing out Tony's poor performances. As if everyone else can't see it as well. If they weren't retarded, they'd realize no one is defending Tony's poor play. People are just tired of the played out shtick.

There's no point in arguing with these people while bringing actual basketball takes, because they aren't concerned with the play or the results. They root for one or two players to do well, while also rooting against one or two players, then they take to the forums and run shtick.

This is the type of nonsense people are trying to debate:


:lol you're not going to convince these retards of anything. They want attention and you're giving it to them.
I always realized they were trolls, but hadn't been on this thread long enough to know that Rob doesn't think he's a good poster or that he knows basketaball (that's actually coming directly from him). I assumed those were given assumptions of a basketball forum. Now I know.

[Clipper Nation]

You said Parker never made covers. Just helping you out. You know, before you make statements, you should at least do a quick Google search to confirm that the people can't call BS in less than 5 seconds.

I said he never got his own magazine covers. You immediately deflected to "commemorative editions" and video game covers. Maybe if you'd wipe Enrique's jizz off your screen, you'd be able to read what people are actually saying better.

[SASdynasty!]

There really is nothing to debate. "Raw stats" or metrics. Kawhi is far superior in both.
I've got an exercise for you...it's going to be difficult. Remember you said this tomorrow and from now on use it as your criteria.

[HI-FI]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDAk75WXIAAd2Yb.jpg
:lol
well least for $45 million we'll get some good memes.

[Mikeanaro]

This thread is hot, almost like a game thread.
Parker looks like 2004 Shaq, he cant have 25 points every night anymore I know all the injuries, Jones fracture ACL torn shoulder achilles tendonitis but he keeps trying too hard almost forgetting there is a team playing with him and a clock running, Pop deserves some blame too we have 2 decent options as backup PG.

[jag]

I always realized they were trolls, but hadn't been on this thread long enough to know that Rob doesn't think he's a good poster or that he knows basketaball (that's actually coming directly from him). I assumed those were given assumptions of a basketball forum. Now I know.

His goal is to troll people and get attention. And he hooks a lot of posters, making them look stupid in the process.

[FkLA]

dude, go back you will see I answered you. On game 1, Kawhi had a higher usage than Parker, you like it or not. And again if he cannot handle double teams his usage is gonna plummet and you will blame Parker for that... :lol

lol no that was to my previous post

You're trying to use FGAs and FTs to claim the offense was more Kawhi centric than Rique centric. That's stupid. It's easier for a physical specimen to get his shot off than a fat, over the hill PG...but that doesn't necessarily mean the fat, over the hill PG didn't have the ball in his hands the majority of the time.

[Cry Havoc]

This thread is hot, almost like a game thread.
Parker looks like 2004 Shaq, he cant have 25 points every night anymore I know all the injuries, Jones fracture ACL torn shoulder achilles tendonitis but he keeps trying too hard almost forgetting there is a team playing with him and a clock running, Pop deserves some blame too we have 2 decent options as backup PG.

Cojo was a stupid hot mess last night. Patty was one of the few Spurs who actually played well. I wouldn't have a problem with Patty taking Cojo's minutes, especially if he's hitting. When he's on, he spaces the floor better than almost anyone else we have, because he can drive pretty well too.

[Leetonidas]

11 pages in 2 hours.

:worthy: Brazil

[still.focused]

My only suue with KL was the 4 TOs last night
He didnt play great but considering they dbl pretty aggressive hid wasnt bad
Again aside from the 4 turnovers

[SASdynasty!]

I said he never got his own magazine covers. You immediately deflected to "commemorative editions" and video game covers. Maybe if you'd wipe Enrique's jizz off your screen, you'd be able to read what people are actually saying better.
So what you're saying is Tony Parker is on zero non-commemorative magazine covers that also do not feature any other Spurs players especially in the event where Tony is not centered in the photograph (or if he is, has his name listed below other players names somewhere on the cover)...except for Slam Magazine, Slamdunk, or Beckett (which of course he is featured on by your exact standards which do not include all the above stipulations).

[TheGreatYacht]

Remember when you actually riled people up. Not anymore. :lmao
I swear to god, I've never seen anyone outside of Harlem/ his Alt's and Roberto reply to you :lmao people actually talk basketball with me, you just do your job which is being the bus' condom

[will_spurs]

I'd like to personally thank Brazil for starting this thread, as it's very useful to update my ignore list: there were a few morons I had missed and who decided to come out of the woodwork...

[jag]

:lol arguing magazine covers with a Spurs fan pretending to be a Clippers fan

[Nathan89]

Kawhi had 18 points, 3 assists, 6 rebounds, 4 steals, and 4 turnovers. Parker had 10 points, 2 turnovers, 1 ASSIST, and 2 rebounds. And Parker is the highest paid player on the team. Nice try though faggot.

The "engine".:lol Dude can't create for himself or others yet dribbles all game. Lets blame Kawhi though.

[FkLA]

This Parker vs Kawhi stuff is really odd. There are 4-5 posters who think they're dropping truth bombs by pointing out Tony's poor performances. As if everyone else can't see it as well. If they weren't retarded, they'd realize no one is defending Tony's poor play. People are just tired of the played out shtick.

There's no point in arguing with these people while bringing actual basketball takes, because they aren't concerned with the play or the results. They root for one or two players to do well, while also rooting against one or two players, then they take to the forums and run shtick.


You realize a French poster started this thread to basically imply Kawhi deserves more criticism for Game 1, right?

[Mikeanaro]

Cojo was a stupid hot mess last night. Patty was one of the few Spurs who actually played well. I wouldn't have a problem with Patty taking Cojo's minutes, especially if he's hitting. When he's on, he spaces the floor better than almost anyone else we have, because he can drive pretty well too.
Pop had options, Patty was hitting and got benched so Poppy deserves some blame, I dont get why they missed so many FTs that was bizarre.

[RD2191]

this is exactly what you :lol about when somebody was using raw stat for defending Parker :lol

make up your mind... raw stat are useful or not ? when Parker was with 18 pts shooting 7/12 you would use the +/- but this is not useful anymore ? sorry for highlighting your contradictions brah
I have never ever used the +/- stat when shitting on Parker. I don't know where you got that from. I don't like it as sometimes it's influenced by who certain players are playing with. Parker's plus minus are usually pretty good because he gets carried by the starters. For instance he can be 3-8 shooting with 1 assists and be a +28. That wasn't the case last night though. He was -10 on 4-11 shooting with 1 assist. In other words he sucked, bad.

[Brazil]

:lol arguing magazine covers with a Spurs fan pretending to be a Clippers fan

Dude still think there are people believing he is a clipper fan :lol

[dabom]

The "engine".:lol Dude can't create for himself or others yet dribbles all game. Lets blame Kawhi though.

Our Maestro is Manu tbh.

[will_spurs]

So what you're saying is Tony Parker is on zero non-commemorative magazine covers that also do not feature any other Spurs players especially in the event where Tony is not centered in the photograph (or if he is, has his name listed below other players names somewhere on the cover)...except for Slam Magazine, Slamdunk, or Beckett (which of course he is featured on by your exact standards which do not include all the above stipulations).

Get ready for "but I was obviously talking only about sports magazines covers!" and "but I was only talking about US covers" :lol

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m212/timcodaville/Tony-Parker-Maxim_zpsc2141725.png

http://blog.aglamslam.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/3590_304594159696982_7708000517261913529_n.png

[RD2191]

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDAYXvQUgAAoekZ.jpg

I wonder if this will make a cover?

[dabom]

You realize a French poster started this thread to basically imply Kawhi deserves more criticism for Game 1, right?

OP is a fucking faggot. Leave parker alone. :cry

[SASdynasty!]

:lol arguing magazine covers with a Spurs fan pretending to be a Clippers fan
You are literally commenting on that exact discussion without even discussing it. I guess that makes you above it.

[Brazil]

I have never ever used the +/- stat when shitting on Parker. I don't know where you got that from. I don't like it as sometimes it's influenced by who certain players are playing with. Parker's plus minus are usually pretty good because he gets carried by the starters. For instance he can be 3-8 shooting with 1 assists and be a +28. That wasn't the case last night though. He was -10 on 4-11 shooting with 1 assist. In other words he sucked, bad.

:lol of course you did it... too lazy to find out but you spend your time launching "truth bomb" when one of your krew advance +/- to shit on Parker's good raw stat but you didn't give me some "truth bomb" :cry (you really hurt my feelings sometimes) when pointing out when speaking about Kawhi stat line

[dabom]

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDAYXvQUgAAoekZ.jpg

I wonder if this will make a cover?

:lmao

[SASdynasty!]

I have never ever used the +/- stat when shitting on Parker. I don't know where you got that from. I don't like it as sometimes it's influenced by who certain players are playing with. Parker's plus minus are usually pretty good because he gets carried by the starters. For instance he can be 3-8 shooting with 1 assists and be a +28. That wasn't the case last night though. He was -10 on 4-11 shooting with 1 assist. In other words he sucked, bad.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

[jag]

You realize a French poster started this thread to basically imply Kawhi deserves more criticism for Game 1, right?

If that's what you took from OP...then okay.




For the rest this site is nowadays polluted by personnal agendas and krew... nobody is capable anymore to have a fair statement or discussion about anything

[RD2191]

:lol of course you did it... too lazy to find out but you spend your time launching "truth bomb" when one of your krew advance +/- to shit on Parker's good raw stat but you didn't give me some "truth bomb" :cry (you really hurt my feelings sometimes) when pointing out when speaking about Kawhi stat line
truth bombs are truth bombs. I have never personally used it though. As I said I don't care for it much. I have almost always gone with "raw stats". Parkers have been shit all season.

[Mikeanaro]

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDAYXvQUgAAoekZ.jpg

I wonder if this will make a cover?
:lmao
Why his ass is bigger than the photoshopped covers?

[Robz4000]

11 pages in 2 hours.

:worthy: Brazil

Came here to post this but I was beaten to it...

[Brazil]

You realize a French poster started this thread to basically imply Kawhi deserves more criticism for Game 1, right?

primary idea is to highlight your double standard and yes there is no obvious reasons other than agendas to get 0 criticism for kawhi's game 1 when dude is clearly a top 10 player of the league and had a bad game

[TheGreatYacht]

11 pages in 2 hours.

:worthy: Brazil
Making his puppets dance

[ChumpDumper]

Props to Big Font Rob for his sustained meltdown today. :tu

[dabom]

primary idea is to highlight your double standard and yes there is no obvious reasons other than agendas to get 0 criticism for kawhi's game 1 when dude is clearly a top 10 player of the league and had a bad game

I don't think you understand what a bad game is. Tony had a bad game. Boris had a bad game. Kawhi had a decent game.

[RD2191]

:lolfair statement
:lolmelts down when people fairly criticize porker
:lolirony
:lolso delusional that actually thinks there is some sort of parker hating krew when in reality its posters calling out shit play
:lolhypocrites
:lolgiving kobe fans a run for their money

[will_spurs]

http://i.imgur.com/mkwiIDm.png

Come on guys, this thread needs more idiots I can ignore!

[dabom]

Where was brazil yesterday? :lmao

Crying himself to sleep. :lmao

[RD2191]

Anyone? Anyone?

[jag]

You are literally commenting on that exact discussion without even discussing it. I guess that makes you above it.

I find the absurdity of it all to be funny.

[Brazil]

lol no that was to my previous post

You're trying to use FGAs and FTs to claim the offense was more Kawhi centric than Rique centric. That's stupid. It's easier for a physical specimen to get his shot off than a fat, over the hill PG...but that doesn't necessarily mean the fat, over the hill PG didn't have the ball in his hands the majority of the time.

:lol where did I use FGAs and FTs ? I used usage rate

What's your plan tho ? transform Kawhi in a PG and let him handle the ball ala Lebron ? He had the biggest usage rate on game 1, ball was plenty of time in his hand...

[dabom]

http://i.imgur.com/mkwiIDm.png

Come on guys, this thread needs more idiots I can ignore!

This guy reminds me of that faggot that made a thread that he was going to ignore people from now on. :lmao

[Clipper Nation]

primary idea is to highlight your double standard and yes there is no obvious reasons other than agendas to get 0 criticism for kawhi's game 1 when dude is clearly a top 10 player of the league and had a bad game
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/flags/France.gif

[Mikeanaro]

Lol like someone could care who willturd-spurs is blocking.

[RD2191]

I find the absurdity of it all to be funny.
lol. you're pulling that shit again? "I hate this thread and it's stupid but let me comment on how stupid it is just cause im a faggot"

[FkLA]

If that's what you took from OP...then okay.

Actually check that. It wasn't even implied, it was explicitly stated. But if you didn't get that from the OP...then okay.



Don't get me wrong, I think Parker played like shit like almost the whole roster except maybe Tim and Mills. I also think Kawhi as the Spurs best player should be the one to take the most of the blame as he will be the one to deserve the most credit when Spurs will win dat serie.

[dabom]

Lol like someone could care who willturd-spurs is blocking.

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Where was brazil yesterday? :lmao

Crying himself to sleep. :lmao
Probably just went to sleep. How late do you require people to stay up?

[dabom]

Actually check that. It wasn't even implied, it was explicitly stated. But if you didn't get that from the OP...then okay.

OP: Kawhi should get most of the blame.

:lmao

OP is a true faggot tbh.

[jag]

Where was brazil yesterday? :lmao

Crying himself to sleep. :lmao

Crying himself to sleep!!!

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/589434_o.gif

Get it? Because he's sad because Parker didn't play well!























http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/589434_o.gif

[Brazil]

Where was brazil yesterday? :lmao

Crying himself to sleep. :lmao

:lol I was with friends in a bar watching the game... sorry you missed me so much faggot :cry

Now to help you sleep try to understand how advanced stats work tbh instead of :cry about the fact your daddy was not in the game thread

[Clipper Nation]

lol. you're pulling that shit again? "I hate this thread and it's stupid but let me comment on how stupid it is just cause im a faggot"

Too bad we can't all have "smart" takes such as "people only like Manu more than Enrique because he speaks Spanish."

[dabom]

Probably just went to sleep. How late do you require people to stay up?

I knew you couldn't miss out. This thread was calling your name. :lmao

[Cry Havoc]

Crying himself to sleep!!!

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/589434_o.gif

Get it? Because he's sad because Parker didn't play well!























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:lol

[ChumpDumper]

I knew you couldn't miss out. This thread was calling your name. :lmaoI've been in and out of this thread, genius.

Are you 12?

[Brazil]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/flags/France.gif

My TeamLos Angeles Clippers

:lmao

[RD2191]

Too bad we can't all have "smart" takes such as "people only like Manu more than Enrique because he speaks Spanish."
:lol

[jag]

lol. you're pulling that shit again? "I hate this thread and it's stupid but let me comment on how stupid it is just cause im a faggot"

Oh, did I say that? ok

[dabom]

Crying himself to sleep!!!

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/589434_o.gif

Get it? Because he's sad because Parker didn't play well!























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Yeah. OP has a set of kleenex right next to his bed. Will need more for the rest of the playoffs. :lmao

[Mikeanaro]

Come on we are having a little fun here, Jeff Ross was here himself roasting Manu in 2013, why cant Antonia have the same treatment?

[dabom]

:lol I was with friends in a bar watching the game... sorry you missed me so much faggot :cry

Now to help you sleep try to understand how advanced stats work tbh instead of :cry about the fact your daddy was not in the game thread

http://s5.postimg.org/gm49t9sif/Parker_Leonard.png

:lmao

[Brazil]

Actually check that. It wasn't even implied, it was explicitly stated. But if you didn't get that from the OP...then okay.

Damn... what an absurd idea... to blame your best player the most when he had a tough night and his team lose and saying he will receive most of the credit when the team will win

[ChumpDumper]

Come on we are having a little fun here, Jeff Ross was here himself roasting Manu in 2013, why cant Antonia have the same treatment?A little fun would be a joke here and there.

This is a months-long spam campaign.

[Brazil]

http://s5.postimg.org/gm49t9sif/Parker_Leonard.png

:lmao

you still don't get it right ? :lol

[jag]

Actually check that. It wasn't even implied, it was explicitly stated. But if you didn't get that from the OP...then okay.

If you don't see the difference between his post and the numerous, daily Parker threads...then okay.

[FkLA]

:lol where did I use FGAs and FTs ? I used usage rate

What's your plan tho ? transform Kawhi in a PG and let him handle the ball ala Lebron ? He had the biggest usage rate on game 1, ball was plenty of time in his hand...

Do you even know the formula for usage rate?

I suggest he is fed early and often, and by that I mean has plays called for him. You know like how he was during most of the 11 game winning streak. Look at the Denver/OKC/GS games for the ideal scenario.

[Mikeanaro]

A little fun would be a joke here and there.

This is a months-long spam campaign.
You are right, but you gotta admit the memes are great.

[jag]

Yeah. OP has a set of kleenex right next to his bed. Will need more for the rest of the playoffs. :lmao

Kleenex!!! Next to his bed!

http://i.imgur.com/GjEVxnv.gif

[ChumpDumper]

You are right, but you gotta admit the memes are great.The memes are fine.

The spam shtick was played out months ago.

[RD2191]

"Unfortunately, though, Parker has also declined in several important ways. He’s never been a great rebounder, but he’s been absolutely dismal this season. On offense that’s a matter of Spurs strategy, but you can also see a sharp decline on the defensive end. Parker has historically been a better than average defensive rebounder for a point guard, but he’s much worse this year with a career low of 2.6 per 48 minutes.
The most worrisome aspect of his decline, though, is his passing. He’s having problems with both assists (which have gone down) and turnovers (which have gone up):"

http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/12/ParkerASTTO.png (http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/12/ParkerASTTO.png)

"Not all measures agree with this assessment of the Spurs’ point guards (if you’re a diehard PER partisan, you’re not going to find this persuasive), but Parker and Joseph’s on/off court numbers this season support the case: ESPN’s on-court impact metric (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/1) has Cory Joseph ranked a respectable 21stamong all NBA point guards, with Tony Parker coming in at 75. The Spurs just aren’t playing as well when Parker is on the floor.
This is in part because the things he’s doing poorly are important and would hurt any team, but they’re particularly bad for the Spurs. A point guard playing with Kawhi Leonard, Danny Green, and Tim Duncan doesn’t need to be the first scoring option, but he does need to be an excellent passer with a high assist to turnover ratio."


http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2014/12/31/need-talk-tony-parker/


:lol

[jag]

Too bad we can't all have "smart" takes such as "people only like Manu more than Enrique because he speaks Spanish."

:lol this dude Clipper Nation is my favorite.

[RD2191]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view8/20131228/4936841/black-guy-fried-chicken-dance-o.gif

[dabom]

A little fun would be a joke here and there.

This is a months-long spam campaign.

You do know all you do is spam right? Like that is your go to move in every thread. :lmao

Tony criticism is valid because he has sucked dick the entire year and now continues in the post season faggot. This is a Spurs board right?

[dabom]

Kleenex!!! Next to his bed!

http://i.imgur.com/GjEVxnv.gif

:lmao

[Nathan89]

http://i.imgur.com/mkwiIDm.png

Come on guys, this thread needs more idiots I can ignore!

"Good to Great". Not Parker dribble dribble mid-range shot.

[ChumpDumper]

You do know all you do is spam right? Like that is your go to move in every thread. :lmao

Tony criticism is valid because he has sucked dick the entire year and now continues in the post season faggot. This is a Spurs board right?How many spam threads have I started in the past 24 hours?

Compare that number to yours and your krew's.

Quit spamming.

[Brazil]

Do you even know the formula for usage rate?

I suggest he is fed early and often, and by that I mean has plays called for him. You know like how he was during most of the 11 game winning streak. Look at the Denver/OKC/GS games for the ideal scenario.

:lol yes I know contrary to most of your krew

In % Kawhi has been the player who used most of team plays when on the floor. I suggest too he is fed early and often, I cannot agree more than that. I'm saying kawhi has had the ball plenty during game 1 you, apparently, think he has not. I'm using usage rate to back it up, you are saying it was not a "good" usage rate I guess so you are placing argumentation on eye test which I disagree with for game 1.

[FkLA]

Damn... what an absurd idea... to blame your best player the most when he had a tough night and his team lose and saying he will receive most of the credit when the team will win

The offense wasn't ran through him and thus wasn't treated as the best offensive player by Pop. What part of that don't you understand? When it is ran through him and he falters then make this thread.


If you don't see the difference between his post and the numerous, daily Parker threads...then okay.

lol switching your argument

Whine about this in the numerous Rique threads then. It doesnt make sense to do it in this one.

[dabom]

How many spam threads have I started in the past 24 hours?

Compare that number to yours and your krew's.

Quit spamming.

You never learn. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

You never learn. :lmaoHow many threads have you started in the last 24 hours?

[jag]

lol switching your argument



So you don't understand the difference? ok

[Brazil]

:lol

still deflecting I see...

dude just a heads up we agree, Parker sucks

[jag]

Truth bombs:

Tony isn't playing well

Tony is past his prime

Tony has had a bad season

Kawhi is better than Tony


















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[dabom]

still deflecting I see...

dude just a heads up we agree, Parker is a cancer

FTFY

[dabom]

Truth bombs:

Tony isn't playing well

Tony is past his prime

Tony has had a bad season

Kawhi is better than Tony


















http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/589434_o.gif

Now you learning. :lmao

[Brazil]

The offense wasn't ran through him and thus wasn't treated as the best offensive player by Pop. What part of that don't you understand? When it is ran through him and he falters then make this thread.




you still did not get OP don't you ?

Kawhi defense was not good either last night

[RD2191]

still deflecting I see...

dude just a heads up we agree, Parker sucks
deflecting from what? what are you so mad about? kawhi had a decent game last night and parker had a bad one. that's all there is to it.

[jag]

Now you learning. :lmao

Learning!!!



















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[ChumpDumper]

Learning!!!



















http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/589434_o.giflol

[RD2191]

faggier poster? chump or jag?

[dabom]

Learning!!!



















http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/589434_o.gif

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

faggier poster? chump or jag?Basketball takes!

[dabom]

faggier poster? chump or jag?

Three-way tie with spurraider faggot. :lmao

[dabom]

Basketball takes!

Yeah you haven't posted any. ST double standard. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah you haven't posted any. ST double standard. :lmaoSure I have.

How many threads have you started in the past 24 hours?

[RD2191]

Yeah you haven't posted any. ST double standard. :lmao
:lolfaggot just asks retarded questions

[ChumpDumper]

:lolfaggot just asks retarded questionsBig Font Rob is really mad today.

[jag]

Three-way tie with spurraider faggot. :lmao

Three-way tie!!!


















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because we're all equally bad!!!












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[RD2191]

Big Font Rob is really mad today.
no one is mad:lol we just chillin shitting on faggots like you per usual

[dabom]

:lolfaggot just asks retarded questions

"what's your favorite color?"

"what's your favorite condiment?"

:lmao

[Mikeanaro]

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=JN.nvV7KVCRDFNxCAAbJmExIQ&pid=15.1&P=0

[RD2191]

hey jag post pics of your whale gf

[KL2]

KY only started touching the ball when most of the starters were off the floor. He was being ignored with Parker out there.


After about 6 mins of chasing Reddick off screens (idiotic coaching), he finally started touching the ball.

No starters meant he was playing with a much less talented bench squad, the back ups were often messing up the spacing drawing too many defenders into the paint. Baynes seriously lacks chemistry with Leonard, he is a big culprit of screwing up the spacing, primarily bc Popovich thought it was a great idea to play Errors over him all season long, pull Baynes after every single little mistake, and glue him to the bench the majority of the season.

It reminds me of Parker over Mills, or Belli over Green, Pop makes some bad fucking choices, screws up on the most obvious decisions, it's strange.

[RD2191]

"what's your favorite color?"

"what's your favorite condiment?"

:lmao
"be specific":lmao

[dabom]

Three-way tie!!!


















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because we're all equally bad!!!












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BINGO!!! Now you get it. :lmao

[FkLA]

:lol yes I know contrary to most of your krew

In % Kawhi has been the player who used most of team plays when on the floor. I suggest too he is fed early and often, I cannot agree more than that. I'm saying kawhi has had the ball plenty during game 1 you, apparently, think he has not. I'm using usage rate to back it up, you are saying it was not a "good" usage rate I guess so you are placing argumentation on eye test which I disagree with for game 1.

You said 'when did I use FGAs and FTAs? I used usage rate'. Usage rate is extremely dependent on FGAs and FTAs brah.

Do you not see a huge difference between the Den/OKC/GS games and the Pels/LAC games? He was fed often early and started off red hot in the first three. The first three games can be considered a Kawhi centric offense, the last two can't. Not sure why it is so hard for you to grasp this tbh.

[jag]

BINGO!!! Now you get it. :lmao

BINGO!!!



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[ChumpDumper]

no one is mad:lol we just chillin shitting on faggots like you per usualSuch an angry response.

How many times have you posted in this thread?

[dabom]

"be specific":lmao

"why?"

:lmao

[dabom]

Such an angry response.

How many times have you posted in this thread?

Spotted one. :lmao

I don't even have to think of one. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

"why?"

:lmaoActually I asked you how many threads you started in the past 24 hours.

The trick is to find the question guys like you are embarrassed to answer. Then you get angry and start with the emoticon tsunamis.

[RD2191]

Actually I asked you how many threads you started in the past 24 hours.

The trick is to find the question guys like you are embarrassed to answer. Then you get angry and start with the emoticon tsunamis.
Start your own threads if you don't like the ones that are posted. All you do is spam threads you don't like with your played out bullshit routine. Everyone shits on you. You're the biggest joke on this site and chump is the perfect name for you. Oh and you will respond to this with "rob is mad" or some other bullshit.:lol

[dabom]

Actually I asked you how many threads you started in the past 24 hours.

The trick is to find the question guys like you are embarrassed to answer. Then you get angry and start with the emoticon tsunamis.

How many basketball takes have you posted in the last 24 hours? :lmao

What's your basketball takes to replies ratio? :lmao

[RD2191]

How many basketball takes have you posted in the last 24 hours? :lmao

What's your basketball takes to replies ratio? :lmao
be specific

[dabom]

be specific

:lmao

nigga you almost killed me with that one. :lmao

[FkLA]

you still did not get OP don't you ?

Kawhi defense was not good either last night

No he wasn't great defensively. But he's also arguably the DPOY therefore he deserves more leniency than a guy who is consistently a traffic cone on D. When he starts consistently sucking as badly as Rique on D then start talking about double standards.

[RD2191]

:lmao

nigga you almost killed me with that one. :lmao
How did I almost kill you? Be specific. Oh and I would like a link please.

[ChumpDumper]

How many basketball takes have you posted in the last 24 hours? :lmao

What's your basketball takes to replies ratio? :lmao


be specificActually you two have questions pending.

I'm waiting for your answers.

Then I will respond in kind.

[dabom]

Actually you two have questions pending.

I'm waiting for your answers.

Then I will respond in kind.

Get slayed. :lmao

[RD2191]

Get slayed. :lmao
:lol

[ChumpDumper]

Actually I asked you how many threads you started in the past 24 hours.

The trick is to find the question guys like you are embarrassed to answer. Then you get angry and start with the emoticon tsunamis.


:lol


:lmao

:lmao


:lmao

:lmao


:lmao


:lol

[TheGreatYacht]

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/07/31/0731-matt-barnes-mug-shot-1.jpg

[RD2191]

:lmao

[RD2191]

http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA3LzE4L2EwL2NyeWluZ3dhdGVyLjQ2NzZiLmdpZg pwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/9fead436/c15/crying-waterfalls.gif
chump do you look like this right now? be specific.

[ChumpDumper]

chump do you look like this right now? be specific.I don't look anything like that tbh.

How many times have you posted in this thread?

[K...]

Never seen these guys so horny before. Spurs lose, guys gets horny. Strange portion of the human race.


It's amazing. Several threads from last night were on point. Seems like we posted all possible basketball takes and had nothing to say.So day 2 we pick up the agenda.

Oh to be young and get a hard on from calling other men faggots. Y'all guys justdon't wear yourselves out. We need the petty insults for games 2,3,4 and maybe 5.

[RD2191]

I don't look anything like that tbh.

How many times have you posted in this thread?
like 200 plus probably. you mad bro?

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view8/20131228/4936841/black-guy-fried-chicken-dance-o.gif

[ChumpDumper]

like 200 plusSeveral with really big fonts.

[K...]

See I'm pissed because the big font shtick is mine. He stole it!

[Brazil]

You said 'when did I use FGAs and FTAs? I used usage rate'. Usage rate is extremely dependent on FGAs and FTAs brah.

Do you not see a huge difference between the Den/OKC/GS games and the Pels/LAC games? He was fed often early and started off red hot in the first three. The first three games can be considered a Kawhi centric offense, the last two can't. Not sure why it is so hard for you to grasp this tbh.

Most of definition include FGAs / FTAs but also TOs and Assists... this gives us an idea of a player usage that was higher than Parker. Again what you described between 3 games and other 2s is your eye test or the way you see it. I don't think Kawhi's feeding yesterday was the main issue. Opinions.

[cd98]

The problem with Kawhi is that he was effectively deterred from the post up and the drive because of Jordan's help from the weak side. The Spurs have to find a way to make the Clippers pay for doubling Kawhi. Yesterday, Kawhi would get the ball on the post, see the double and kick it out without gaining an advantage, and when he was pushed a little further out, he would defer instead of drive when he saw Jordan come to help. He seemed to score most of his points when Jordan was not in the game.

[Brazil]

No he wasn't great defensively. But he's also arguably the DPOY therefore he deserves more leniency than a guy who is consistently a traffic cone on D. When he starts consistently sucking as badly as Rique on D then start talking about double standards.

the good thing is we are almos the only ones still trying to talk about ball

I'm talking about double standard because parker received all the crap for his bad game and Kawhi escaped from that because of YOUR double standards not mines. Yesterday he defended poorly, had the worst +/- of the team, get stuck in double teams, kept the ball too long but nobody wanted to discuss about it, easier to blast Parker again.

My thread is not a shot at Kawhi, a bad game happen. He will step up, he always stepped up and he will carry his team to a first round win and I will give him props for doing so, for now I'm having fun on ST double standards and give him his share of responsability for yesterday's loss.

[Brazil]

The problem with Kawhi is that he was effectively deterred from the post up and the drive because of Jordan's help from the weak side. The Spurs have to find a way to make the Clippers pay for doubling Kawhi. Yesterday, Kawhi would get the ball on the post, see the double and kick it out without gaining an advantage, and when he was pushed a little further out, he would defer instead of drive when he saw Jordan come to help. He seemed to score most of his points when Jordan was not in the game.

all good points

ball movement and 3 pts shooting will be key to break dat double team

[Aztecfan03]

:lolyou're delusional or in denial. you sound like a kobe fan. Parker has gotten most of the credit on st at least for the spurs wins. He is rarely if ever blamed for a loss. If you claim otherwise you are lying.
I guess you see what you want to see.

[Aztecfan03]

I'm still wondering where all these "Parker fans" are that the Kawhi club seems to have an issue with, tbh...
He would probably include me even though Kawhi is my favorite player.

[ElNono]

all good points

ball movement and 3 pts shooting will be key to break dat double team

If you were a betting man, would you bet on Kawhi figuring out the double teams before Tony figures out Chris Paul/Austin Rivers or the other way around?

[davidbowie]

you guys r funny :downspin:

[resistanze]

:lol 15 pages

[RD2191]

If you were a betting man, would you bet on Kawhi figuring out the double teams before Tony figures out Chris Paul/Austin Rivers or the other way around?
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/589434_o.gif

[SupremeGuy]

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDAYXvQUgAAoekZ.jpg

I wonder if this will make a cover?:rollin

[SupremeGuy]

You realize a French poster started this thread to basically imply Kawhi deserves more criticism for Game 1, right?This post sums up this thread, tbh.

[SpursFan86]

Holy shit @ this already reaching 15 pages :lmao

Y'all realize this is all trolling, right? These people aren't serious. They're doing it specifically to warrant responses like this :lol Sure, they might actually think Parker sucks at this point, but they don't actually think he's the sole problem or that no other players are to blame.

[Agloco]

When is it okay to blame Parker?

When it's appropriate I'd imagine. Yesterday isn't on Parker.

[Cry Havoc]

Props to Brazil for the popcorn. :tu

[RD2191]

When it's appropriate I'd imagine. Yesterday isn't on Parker.
When is it appropriate? Tell me. Because last night was a shitfest from Parker.

[Cry Havoc]

Holy shit @ this already reaching 15 pages :lmao

Y'all realize this is all trolling, right? These people aren't serious. They're doing it specifically to warrant responses like this :lol Sure, they might actually think Parker sucks at this point, but they don't actually think he's the sole problem or that no other players are to blame.

They're so far gone in their schtick that they're easy to counter-troll now. Look how much hemming and hawing they did in this thread. They literally spend hours a day attacking Parker. :lol Trolling only works if you're expending far less energy than the people you're attempting to troll. :lol

[Mikeanaro]

If you were a betting man, would you bet on Kawhi figuring out the double teams before Tony figures out Chris Paul/Austin Rivers or the other way around?
Tony, he was the FMVP before Kiwi so he is smarter.

[RD2191]

They're so far gone in their schtick that they're easy to counter-troll now. Look how much hemming and hawing they did in this thread. They literally spend hours a day attacking Parker. :lol Trolling only works if you're expending far less energy than the people you're attempting to troll. :lol
we shit all over parker and his fans with nothing but stats. not sure what you're seeing. oh that's right you're too edgy for all of this.:lmao

[RD2191]

4-11 shooting, 1 assist, 2 turnovers. Not an appropriate time to blame Parker.:lol Dem Kobe-like fans tho.

[dabom]

4-11 shooting, 1 assist, 2 turnovers. Not an appropriate time to blame Parker.:lol Dem Kobe-like fans tho.

Kobe assist means get the rebound. :lmao

[cd98]

4-11 shooting, 1 assist, 2 turnovers. Not an appropriate time to blame Parker.:lol Dem Kobe-like fans tho.

One game. Danny Green shot 1 for 7 from three, but that doesn't mean he isn't a dangerous three point shooter that is always a threat to make it. Also, assists require teammates to hit shots and finish layups, that didn't happen quite a bit in the Spurs offense. We missed a lot of open shots and lay ups. That's not all on Parker.

[RD2191]

Kobe assist means get the rebound. :lmao
:lol

[RD2191]

One game. Danny Green shot 1 for 7 from three, but that doesn't mean he isn't a dangerous three point shooter that is always a threat to make it. Also, assists require teammates to hit shots and finish layups, that didn't happen quite a bit in the Spurs offense. We missed a lot of open shots and lay ups. That's not all on Parker.
Parker has been shit all season. I already showed you the stats. Not sure what the fuck else you Parker fans want to see. Un fucking believable.

[RD2191]

4-11 shooting, 1 assist, 2 turnovers. Not an appropriate time to blame Parker.:lol Dem Kobe-like fans tho.
me in this thread after reading parker fan posts

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/incredulous.gif

[Brazil]

If you were a betting man, would you bet on Kawhi figuring out the double teams before Tony figures out Chris Paul/Austin Rivers or the other way around?

You are looking for an opinion or just using that to throw another cute punch at Parker ?

[cd98]

Parker has been shit all season. I already showed you the stats. Not sure what the fuck else you Parker fans want to see. Un fucking believable.

He's been up and down, but during the time when the Spurs played the best basketball, he was their starting point guard and he was playing well. You may not like him, but when you are advocating playing Cojo or Mills for 30 minutes, then you have to wonder if you have any idea what you are talking about. And Pop sees the same stats that you look at, and he's smart enough to know that they do not answer everything. Especially when Parker gets his stats against starters, and Mills and Cojo get their stats against third and fourth string players.

[RD2191]

Read this.
http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2014/12/...k-tony-parker/ (http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2014/12/31/need-talk-tony-parker/)



"So when a player shows improvement in an area as important as shooting, how do you balance that against his decline in other areas? Each overall player metric weights these things differently. I like math, so I find the case for Wins Produced (http://wagesofwins.com/faq/), which places a higher value on passing and rebounding than metrics like PER, compelling, and Parker’s Wins Produced this year (http://www.boxscoregeeks.com/players/310-tony-parker) says that he’s a below average player, dragged down by basically everything he does that isn’t shooting the ball.
Fortunately, the Spurs employ two above-average point guards: Cory Joseph and Patty Mills. These players aren’t completely interchangeable. The energetic Mills is an up-tempo player and excellent three-point shooter while Joseph is more adept at facilitating the offense and finishing at the rim. But both Mills and Joseph are playing at a higher overall level than Parker, and the Spurs should explore lineups that take advantage of their skills. It’d be a shame to see Joseph lose minutes to Parker as he returns.
Not all measures agree with this assessment of the Spurs’ point guards (if you’re a diehard PER partisan, you’re not going to find this persuasive), but Parker and Joseph’s on/off court numbers this season support the case: ESPN’s on-court impact metric (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/1)has Cory Joseph ranked a respectable 21stamong all NBA point guards, with Tony Parker coming in at 75. The Spurs just aren’t playing as well when Parker is on the floor."

dat double standard

[cd98]

Read this.
http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2014/12/...k-tony-parker/ (http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2014/12/31/need-talk-tony-parker/)



"So when a player shows improvement in an area as important as shooting, how do you balance that against his decline in other areas? Each overall player metric weights these things differently. I like math, so I find the case for Wins Produced (http://wagesofwins.com/faq/), which places a higher value on passing and rebounding than metrics like PER, compelling, and Parker’s Wins Produced this year (http://www.boxscoregeeks.com/players/310-tony-parker) says that he’s a below average player, dragged down by basically everything he does that isn’t shooting the ball.
Fortunately, the Spurs employ two above-average point guards: Cory Joseph and Patty Mills. These players aren’t completely interchangeable. The energetic Mills is an up-tempo player and excellent three-point shooter while Joseph is more adept at facilitating the offense and finishing at the rim. But both Mills and Joseph are playing at a higher overall level than Parker, and the Spurs should explore lineups that take advantage of their skills. It’d be a shame to see Joseph lose minutes to Parker as he returns.
Not all measures agree with this assessment of the Spurs’ point guards (if you’re a diehard PER partisan, you’re not going to find this persuasive), but Parker and Joseph’s on/off court numbers this season support the case: ESPN’s on-court impact metric (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/1)has Cory Joseph ranked a respectable 21stamong all NBA point guards, with Tony Parker coming in at 75. The Spurs just aren’t playing as well when Parker is on the floor."

dat double standard

I'm sure Mills and Cojo do a great job racking up nice stats in garbage time.

[Brazil]

^oh Roberto still not talking about yesterday's game

[RD2191]

He's been up and down, but during the time when the Spurs played the best basketball, he was their starting point guard and he was playing well. You may not like him, but when you are advocating playing Cojo or Mills for 30 minutes, then you have to wonder if you have any idea what you are talking about. And Pop sees the same stats that you look at, and he's smart enough to know that they do not answer everything. Especially when Parker gets his stats against starters, and Mills and Cojo get their stats against third and fourth string players.
Cojo started multiple games this season. Stop it, just stop it. This is getting to kobe-tard level fandom.

[RD2191]

^oh Roberto still not talking about yesterday's game
Kawhi had a better game than Parker yesterday. What more is there to say?

[RD2191]

7:01
Tony Parker misses 18-foot jumper




6:47
Tony Parker lost ball turnover (Matt Barnes steals)






6:05
Tony Parker misses 23-foot three point jumper




3:28
Tony Parker misses 9-foot jumper




1:46
Tony Parker misses 25-foot three point jumper




9:10
Tony Parker misses 10-foot jumper




8:22
Tony Parker misses 9-foot jumper




7:56
Tony Parker lost ball turnover (Blake Griffin steals)




:lolkobe-esque
:lolchucker
:lolworst starting pg in the playoffs
:lol1 ASSIST
:lolball stopper
:loltried to hero and failed per usual
:lolgot shit on by cliff paul
:loldied during the game

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDAYXvQUgAAoekZ.jpg:large




6:33
Kawhi Leonard makes two point shot (Tim Duncan assists)




5:43
Kawhi Leonard makes free throw 1 of 2






8:21
Kawhi Leonard makes 11-foot jumper (Boris Diaw assists)




1:37
Kawhi Leonard makes 4-foot jumper




1:12
Kawhi Leonard makes 20-foot two point shot




9:40
Tiago Splitter makes layup (Kawhi Leonard assists)




2:59
Manu Ginobili makes 24-foot three point jumper (Kawhi Leonard assists)




2:13
Kawhi Leonard makes two point shot (Manu Ginobili assists)




1:19
Kawhi Leonard makes layup (Manu Ginobili assists)




0:00
Kawhi Leonard makes 25-foot three point jumper (Manu Ginobili assists)




11:12
Patty Mills makes 24-foot three point jumper (Kawhi Leonard assists)




4:28
Kawhi Leonard makes free throw 1 of 2




4:28
Kawhi Leonard makes free throw 2 of 2




:lolrefused to let parker drag the spurs down
:loldid the best he could while porker was chucking
:lolmore assist than the starting pg
:lolstill had 6 rebounds and 4 steals
:lolmanu always being a better pg than porker
Last nights game. There, I talked about it Brazil.

[cd98]

Cojo started multiple games this season. Stop it, just stop it. This is getting to kobe-tard level fandom.

Multiple games. Stop it. He played like five games. And I believe we lost most of them. Tard level to advocate Cojo as our starting point guard. Tard level to watch Clippers ignore him when the Spurs are on offense and play 5 on 4. Tard when the Clippers double Parker when he penetrates, but do no such thing when Cojo does. Stop pretending that advanced stats are telling us something they are not.

[RD2191]

Multiple games. Stop it. He played like five games. And I believe we lost most of them. Tard level to advocate Cojo as our starting point guard. Tard level to watch Clippers ignore him when the Spurs are on offense and play 5 on 4. Tard when the Clippers double Parker when he penetrates, but do no such thing when Cojo does. Stop pretending that advanced stats are telling us something they are not.
Give me stats or quit talking out of your ass. Just because you keep saying Parker is a good PG doesn't make it true. He also isn't the best option at PG as you keep saying.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Tony Parker was terrible last night

[Mikeanaro]

Last nights game. There, I talked about it Brazil.
Yeah but if you look into Kawhi plays and change all the ¨makes¨ to ¨misses¨ then its clearly obvious Parker had a better game.

[Agloco]

When is it appropriate? Tell me. Because last night was a shitfest from Parker.


Yesterday isn't on Parker.

Keep reaching though Mr. Fantastic

[SupremeGuy]

The parker fans are just embarrassing themselves in this thread, tbh.

[RD2191]

Keep reaching though Mr. Fantastic
That's it. Give me an answer please. When is it appropriate to blame Parker? Give me an example of when Parker can be blamed.

[Hemotivo]

Tony Parker was terrible last night

yep

[RD2191]

The parker fans are just embarrassing themselves in this thread, tbh.
They have been for a while now.

[Agloco]

That's it. Give me an answer please. When is it appropriate to blame Parker? Give me an example of when Parker can be blamed.

Anytime the team plays well despite him tbh.

Last night wasn't one of those instances. It isn't that hard.

[SupremeGuy]

Keep reaching though Mr. FantasticHe's asking when it's appropriate to blame parker? He shit the bed for most of the season and rob has posted the stats to back up that statement, but still many people in this thread continue to deflect blame.

[cd98]

That's it. Give me an answer please. When is it appropriate to blame Parker? Give me an example of when Parker can be blamed.

It's not that you can't blame Parker for losses, it's just that the shtick of focusing solely on him gets old. Sure, he played a terrible game. He needs to neutralize Paul, if he doesn't do that, we are in trouble. But advocating Mills and Cojo playing 30 minutes a game, is just not believable. I don't care what your advanced stat says, because it measures stats that Mills/Cojo get in junk time against inferior talent. Most of their minutes this season have been as bench players, and often in blow outs. The real indicator is how the Clippers defend them. Cojo can shoot well, but he can't guard anyone in the half court for 30 minutes. Cojo can guard people, but he can't shoot enough to keep the defense honest for 30 minutes. Parker is the best we have, regardless if you think he is the worst starting point guard in the NBA. And Leonard isn't to blame for the loss, even though he played subpar. They all were to blame. Dumb turnovers, missed free throws, poor ball movement (Leonard is as guilty as Parker is of stopping the ball and burning shot clock time without getting anything from it), lazy transition defense... all those things were to blame. And yes, Parker was part of that, but not the only one.

[RD2191]

It's not that you can't blame Parker for losses, it's just that the shtick of focusing solely on him gets old. Sure, he played a terrible game. He needs to neutralize Paul, if he doesn't do that, we are in trouble. But advocating Mills and Cojo playing 30 minutes a game, is just not believable. I don't care what your advanced stat says, because it measures stats that Mills/Cojo get in junk time against inferior talent. Most of their minutes this season have been as bench players, and often in blow outs. The real indicator is how the Clippers defend them. Cojo can shoot well, but he can't guard anyone in the half court for 30 minutes. Cojo can guard people, but he can't shoot enough to keep the defense honest for 30 minutes. Parker is the best we have, regardless if you think he is the worst starting point guard in the NBA. And Leonard isn't to blame for the loss, even though he played subpar. They all were to blame. Dumb turnovers, missed free throws, poor ball movement (Leonard is as guilty as Parker is of stopping the ball and burning shot clock time without getting anything from it), lazy transition defense... all those things were to blame. And yes, Parker was part of that, but not the only one.
k thanks. but even his raw stats are shitty. he had 1 assist last night. keep it going though.:lol

[RD2191]

Anytime the team plays well despite him tbh.

Last night wasn't one of those instances. It isn't that hard.
You mean like all season? Because Parker has had plenty of shit games yet Parker fans bring up his plus minus only when it's convenient. He gets carried by the starters. He has been all season. I never once saw Parker get the blame for any of his shit games this season.

[cd98]

k thanks. but even his raw stats are shitty. he had 1 assist last night. keep it going though.:lol

Yeah, I guess you missed the point where I acknowledged he had a bad game last night. The problem is you think that Cojo would have had a better game. That's because you look at stats, but don't look at how the Clippers didn't guard him. That's a problem when you rely on spacing. That's why he didn't get back in the game and why he'll be the third point guard in this series barring an injury. Danny Green also shot poorly, but I wouldn't bench him for Manu or Beli, who both shot way better than him. I trust Green's overall defense and his ability to hit shots, even if he has a bad game.

[RD2191]

Yeah, I guess you missed the point where I acknowledged he had a bad game last night. The problem is you think that Cojo would have had a better game. That's because you look at stats, but don't look at how the Clippers didn't guard him. That's a problem when you rely on spacing. That's why he didn't get back in the game and why he'll be the third point guard in this series barring an injury. Danny Green also shot poorly, but I wouldn't bench him for Manu or Beli, who both shot way better than him. I trust Green's overall defense and his ability to hit shots, even if he has a bad game.
It isn't just one game though. He's been shit most of the season.

[ElNono]

You are looking for an opinion or just using that to throw another cute punch at Parker ?

Opinion, tbh

[Agloco]

He has been all season. I never once saw Parker get the blame for any of his shit games this season.

A great many games yes, not all year though. Leave the hyperbole on the curb, it makes it hard to take you seriously. He's gotten plenty of blame even from members of his fan club. You haven't been looking hard enough my friend.

[cd98]

It isn't just one game though. He's been shit most of the season.

Again, what's your point? He's still better than what we got behind him, by far. You can complain all you want, but he's what we got, and despite what you think, there wasn't another player out there that you could get to upgrade. That said, he's good enough to get us a title, like he did last year. And before you start saying how bad he was last year, save it. You can think he sucks, just don't propose silly solutions like playing Mills and Cojo for 30 minutes. You might as well advocate for more minutes for Ayers, and go completely nonsensical.

[RD2191]

A great many games yes, not all year though. Leave the hyperbole on the curb, it makes it hard to take you seriously. He's gotten plenty of blame even from members of his fan club. You haven't been looking hard enough my friend.
OP wants to blame KawhI and wants Kawhi to receive the bulk of the blame. While Parker has received part of the blame his fans have never said that he was the main reason the game was lost even though he was responsible for plenty of them.

[RD2191]

Again, what's your point? He's still better than what we got behind him, by far. You can complain all you want, but he's what we got, and despite what you think, there wasn't another player out there that you could get to upgrade. That said, he's good enough to get us a title, like he did last year. And before you start saying how bad he was last year, save it. You can think he sucks, just don't propose silly solutions like playing Mills and Cojo for 30 minutes. You might as well advocate for more minutes for Ayers, and go completely nonsensical.
Actually he isn't better than what we've got despite what you say.

[Mikeanaro]

Anytime the team plays well despite him tbh.

Last night wasn't one of those instances. It isn't that hard.
Where are your stats to back up your facts?
The team plays better when he is eating bench.

[cd98]

Actually he isn't better than what we've got despite what you say.

Except that Coach Pop and the Clippers disagree with you. Oh, and every commenter. Even your advanced stat people would slap you upside the head and say that more minutes for Mills and Cojo doesn't mean 30 minutes a game. That would be disastrous. Especially if you are the Kawhi Leonard fan that you claim to be as he will face tons of double teams if Cojo is in and he would be able to pass to Cojo for the open threes because Cojo can't make them and the Clippers don't fear him with the ball in his hands. Imagine watching that for 30 minutes.

[RD2191]

Except that Coach Pop and the Clippers disagree with you. Oh, and every commenter. Even your advanced stat people would slap you upside the head and say that more minutes for Mills and Cojo doesn't mean 30 minutes a game. That would be disastrous. Especially if you are the Kawhi Leonard fan that you claim to be as he will face tons of double teams if Cojo is in and he would be able to pass to Cojo for the open threes because Cojo can't make them and the Clippers don't fear him with the ball in his hands. Imagine watching that for 30 minutes.
Last night says otherwise so for now you are wrong.

[Mikeanaro]

Except that Coach Pop and the Clippers disagree with you. Oh, and every commenter. Even your advanced stat people would slap you upside the head and say that more minutes for Mills and Cojo doesn't mean 30 minutes a game. That would be disastrous. Especially if you are the Kawhi Leonard fan that you claim to be as he will face tons of double teams if Cojo is in and he would be able to pass to Cojo for the open threes because Cojo can't make them and the Clippers don't fear him with the ball in his hands. Imagine watching that for 30 minutes.
http://gothicginobili.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Screen-Shot-2015-01-30-at-11.30.56-AM.png

[RD2191]

And when if the Spurs lose this series with Parker playing heavy minutes what will be your excuse then? Oh that's right you'll blame the rest of the team.

[spurraider21]

16 pages of player fans arguing with player fans... cancerous community

[Malik Hairston]

:lol Jesus, 17 pages..smh..

[coachmac87]

This thread just shows how far this forum has fallen....Thank You Robdiaz and your tiny dick

[RD2191]

This thread just shows how far this forum has fallen....Thank You Robdiaz and your tiny dick
Lmao. Stay mad bro. Gtfo if you don't like it.

[coachmac87]

I ain't mad...this is 17 pages of you getting punked

[RD2191]

I ain't mad...this is 17 pages of you getting punked
Lmao. Yeah sure buddy. I shit on this entire thread. You must be a Parker fan with your delusional takes.

[cd98]

Last night says otherwise so for now you are wrong.

Except it didn't. Didn't you watch when Cory was in and no one guarded him? Didn't you see that he got no playing time in the second half? He was too much of an offensive liability.

[RD2191]

Except it didn't. Didn't you watch when Cory was in and no one guarded him? Didn't you see that he got no playing time in the second half? He was too much of an offensive liability.
Then play Mills. Simple. Spurs biggest runs came with Mills at PG. I never said play just Cory. Cory was shit last night but Mills wasn't. He was the best Spurs PG last night.

[RD2191]

http://gothicginobili.com/?p=7573

Ouch.

[RD2191]

Shout out to Mikeanaro for the link.

[cd98]

Then play Mills. Simple. Spurs biggest runs came with Mills at PG. I never said play just Cory. Cory was shit last night but Mills wasn't. He was the best Spurs PG last night.

But again, my point. Mills is great as a change of pace guy and certainly has earned more minutes going forward. But he can't play 30 minutes a game. He's too much of a defensive liability. Parker should start and get the majority of the minutes, Mills should get the reserve minutes (unless he is struggling in his shooting), and Cory should barely play (unless it is a blow out or we need him to take out Griffin's knee or intentionally foul Jordan). Oh wait, that's what Pop is doing...yes we should just trust that the 5 time champion and three time coach of the year knows what he is doing.

[RD2191]

http://gothicginobili.com/?p=7573

Ouch.

[RD2191]

Your opinion doesn't change the facts bro. I'm sorry but you are wrong.

[cd98]

Your opinion doesn't change the facts bro. I'm sorry but you are wrong.

It's a nice article, except it doesn't back what you are saying. Well, it does show that he has had a bit of a decline, but that was easy for all of us to see; we didn't need the article to see he is taking more jumpers and finishing at a lower rate at the rim then in years past. But the stats themselves are misleading because they don't tell the whole story. Yes, Tony has had a slight uptick in turnovers, but that doesn't mean that Mills or Cojo are better ball handlers. If you watch the game, which is dubious, but I'll assume you do, then you'll see that neither Mills or Cojo are the primary handlers or creators when they are in the game. On offense, they play off the ball, especially Cojo. The creators are Manu and Bellineli. So that's why they have less turnovers. As the article points out, Parker has never been a great assists guy, so there isn't much there. The article does say that Duncan and Green have improved their shooting while playing with Parker, which makes sense since he seems to find both after penetrating and kicking out for jumpers. And the second unit has better passers than the starters, so of course the assist rate is higher among them. Manu and Diaw and Splitter are among the best passers in the NBA at their positions. The starters run things differently, including iso plays for Kawhi and post ups for Tim and then Tony pick and rolls that tend to end in Tony jumpers mean less assists. That said, the article points out that Tony is still a great shooter, which is why the Clippers have to guard him, even if he is having an off night. And again, I'll reiterate, that Mills's and Cojo's numbers are a bit inflated because most of their stats come against second stringers. They aren't logging 30 minutes against Paul or their numbers would look bad, especially their defense numbers. All in all, you can say Tony is struggling, but he's still better than what is behind him. Perhaps the biggest dig and posting and worshiping this article is that it was written back in January, when Tony was injured and not playing well, and it doesn't account for when he turned things around in the second half and gave big contributions to the Spurs winning streak. So again, Article is meh, but certainly doesn't back up your nonsense opinions.

[Old School 44]

One of the greatest franchises in all of sports. In the playoffs for 18 consecutive years. 18!!!! Only missed the playoffs 4 times in the team's 38 year NBA existence. The franchise has won 5 titles, and are the defending champs after crushing the Heat last year!!!

And here we arguing about whose fault it is in game one of the first round of the playoffs. smh.
:smchode::smchode::smchode::smchode::smchode:

[Silver&Black]

:lol Player Fans

[Brazil]

Opinion, tbh

That was not evident you phrased your sentence, btw your question does not make a lot of sense. Not sure what Parker needs to figure out on cp3 he played him often and there is nothing new in the way cp3 is playing unless you wanted to play the smart ass.

im confident Spurs and Kawhi will figure out the double teams and defensive pressure he will get from now on soon enough. Kawhi is a fast learner. Now I'm a bit surprised seeing him and Spurs taken apparently off guard. This was to be expected after his last 20 games surge offensively tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

This thread just shows how far this forum has fallen....Thank You Robdiaz and your tiny dick

I ain't mad...this is 17 pages of you getting punked

[Brazil]

:lol Jesus, 17 pages..smh..

Your criteria to be considered an elite is apparently generating traffic, I fully deserve an honorable mention in your next list