Do the Spurs have the GUTS to trade Tony Parker??

[cutewizard]

This is THE question that confronts the Spurs as we rebuild in the post-Duncan era.......

Comments guys?

[TheGoldStandard]

In before the.. "never going to trade him" "faggot" "uhh they have 5 rings" comments

[testies]

Rajon Parker is untradable

[ElNono]

No. Parker will retire a Spur. Next thread.

[RD2191]

I doubt it. Pop is going to let him keep pulling the team down. He sucks as PG. He statistically doesn't make any of the starters better besides Tim. Coincidentally Tim is the only one he really passes to.

[dabom]

I bet they do.

[Lerojo]

They are never going to trade him faggot and uhh they have 5 rings

[dabom]

Or is tony part of the tanking solution because that's what I think is going to happen with an expired point guard playing starter minutes.

[Clipper Nation]

Another team would have to want Enrique.

[Malik Hairston]

They won't due to loyalty, but I doubt any team in the league would take him, tbh:lol..he's no longer a starter on a playoff team IMO..

[Mikeanaro]

No thats impossible.

[KaiRMD1]

Jason Kidd ...... 2003 was the closest we would have seen Parker taking a back seat

[Darius Bieber]

They don't even have the guts to close a series at home.

[Malik Hairston]

As I've been saying for a month or so, the difference between Parker and Pablo Prigioni is minimal, tbh..

[dabom]

Can the NETs take him? They like washed up players tbh.

[Cloud786]

Parker is not going to be traded. Our best option would be for him to retire but he has said that he wants to play 20 seasons in the NBA before he retires. At this rate, he won't even come close to lasting that long.

[Yuixafun]

They don't even have the guts to close a series at home.

too soon man =/

[timtonymanu]

Nope, it's a loyalty thing at this point. Trading away Tony would be a slap in the face by the organization, even though it's the right move.

[Nathan89]

Parker is untradable

[TheGreatYacht]

They are never going to trade him faggot and uhh they have 5 rings

[Mikeanaro]

As I've been saying for a month or so, the difference between Parker and Pablo Prigioni is minimal, tbh..
Prigioni is 3 times faster also is 37 years old.

[BatManu20]

The bigger question is, "Is there a team dumb enough to actually trade for a degenerating, injury-prone 33 year-old PG who's due $14 Million a year for the next 3 years?


The answer is No. Tony will a retire a Spur.

[KaiRMD1]

The Knicks would take him. Maybe we can get Jose Calderon for him

[loveforthegame]

Not going to happen even if there was a team out there willing to take on that burden.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Smush Parker isn't tradable at this point. Ugh he's so fucking bad

[tim_duncan_fan]

lol Nobody wants to trade for Tony. More than that, no one wants to help one of the three teams that have held court in the finals for the past decade+.

[Malik Hairston]

What's funny is watching JJ Barea dice through the Rockets' D and creating shots for the Mavs' role players, tbh:lol..he's getting paid a little more than the minimum IIRC..

[HI-FI]

Jason Kidd ...... 2003 was the closest we would have seen Parker taking a back seat
yep, i still remember it like it was yesterday. ugh, what could've been, his fucking wife didn't want him leaving Joisey iirc.

at this point I'd take Calderon or Prigioni in a heartbeat and I bet they'd love to play here. But it's not going to happen.

guess we can just focus on our race discussions for the next 3 years, probably won't be much bball to talk about.

[RD2191]

What's funny is watching JJ Barea dice through the Rockets' D and creating shots for the Mavs' role players, tbh:lol..he's getting paid a little more than the minimum IIRC..
Ouch.

[HI-FI]

What's funny is watching JJ Barea dice through the Rockets' D and creating shots for the Mavs' role players, tbh:lol..he's getting paid a little more than the minimum IIRC..
shit, forgot about him. Barrea would be another great fit for the team and SA culture. But once again, Pop's loyalty to unreliable players comes first.

[TheGoldStandard]

Can the NETs take him? They like washed up players tbh.
Deron Williams is a better PG at the moment..

[Malik Hairston]

It's 2015, the majority of the teams in the league have penetrating PGs that create shots, which makes Parker even less valuable, tbh..random players like DJ Augustin create shots:lol..

[itsamanuthree]

As I've been saying for a month or so, the difference between Parker and Pablo Prigioni is minimal, tbh..

I don't think so, Pablo has a rather high BBIQ

[TheGoldStandard]

I'd take Clarkson in a heartbeat

[RD2191]

The PG position is stacked right now. No country for old men, tbh.

[Malik Hairston]

Fuck Drake and Chris Brown for not finishing the job, tbh..

[RD2191]

Fuck Drake and Chris Brown for not finishing the job, tbh..
Malik bringing the heat per usual.:lmao

[Nathan89]

:lol

[HI-FI]

Fuck Drake and Chris Brown for not finishing the job, tbh..
:lmao

[loveforthegame]

Oh wow. :lol

[Johnny RIngo]

Fuck Tony's dad for not pulling out

[ElNono]

Fuck Drake and Chris Brown for not finishing the job, tbh..

:lol

[Malik Hairston]

Prigioni is 3 times faster also is 37 years old.

:lol good call, tbh..

[kaji157]

He is tradeable, the Spurs won´t trade him.

[Stabula]

I'm a realistic Spurs fan who is also not a TP hater, which gives me a unique perspective on ST it seems. I say do whatever it takes to maximize TP's performance next season so that you can sell him high to some dumb ass franchise willing to pay. TP doesn't have as much market value as he can potentially net you due to his past 2 injury-plagued seasons.

[cutewizard]

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2015/5/17/8616749/gregg-popovich-manu-ginobili-clippers-game-7-free-agency

[cutewizard]

the above article is a speculative take on Pop, hehe, nice reading

[james evans]

The spurs are too loyal. They are gonna let him continue to stink up the pg position for the next 2 years and then he'll sign for league minimum and continue to stink it up some more.

[Chillen]

He's untradeable due to loyalty, but say the GM/FO of the Cavs was high and wanted to trade Irving for Parker, I am sure the Spurs would do it. LOL

[SASdynasty!]

Maybe we can grab a quality PG like Chris Paul and never make it back to the Western Conference Finals ever again.

[SASdynasty!]

That would be a good message: "Come play for San Antonio, where we not only underpay you your whole career, but then after you've helped us win 4 rings, won a FMVP, and led the team in scoring and assists in the regular season and playoffs for God-knows how long, then we'll trade you for some unproved PG who had to be carried to the playoffs by Lebron."

[SASdynasty!]

The PG position is stacked right now. No country for old men, tbh.
Funny, because that old man is the defending champion, moron.

[Keepin' it real]

spurs ... guts to trade Parker ... (assorted nonsense) ...

Ungrateful little moron. You don't deserve to wear the label of a Spurs fan.

[SupremeGuy]

If Pop didn't have the balls to bench porker when he was obviously dragging the team down, you really think he'd have the balls to trade him?

[Nathan89]

Maybe we can grab a quality PG like Chris Paul and never make it back to the Western Conference Finals ever again.

We would've won the championship easy if we had Chris Paul over this shitbag.

[z0sa]

Parker is a spur for life, kids.

[Diego20]

Prigioni is 3 times faster also is 37 years old.

He's now 38 years old..

[intlspurshk]

SPURS should consider trading TP during regular season when his performance is good. I doubt SPURS have the gut to do so though

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Maybe we can grab a quality PG like Chris Paul and never make it back to the Western Conference Finals ever again.

[SASdynasty!]

We would've won the championship easy if we had Chris Paul over this shitbag.
Lol, yah I'm sure that he would have won the championship even though he couldn't get to the WCF with Griffin putting up 26 PPG, 13 RPG, 6 APG on 51% shooting. Hahahahaha! When's the last time Parker had someone on his team play that good in the postseason? (besides himself)

I'll answer the question: Duncan in 2003, who put up 26 PPG, 15 RPG, 5 APG on 53% shooting.

[cd98]

That would be a good message: "Come play for San Antonio, where we not only underpay you your whole career, but then after you've helped us win 4 rings, won a FMVP, and led the team in scoring and assists in the regular season and playoffs for God-knows how long, then we'll trade you for some unproved PG who had to be carried to the playoffs by Lebron."

Right. Or the "Spur fans" here that were fine with Parker taking pay cuts year after year, and when he has a bad season/playoff run after years of pay cuts, they pull out the dagger and show no appreciation. These are the same guys that will be upset if Manu or Tim don't get the Spurs a huge discount, even though they've been doing that for years.

[dbestpro]

Parker is not going, anywhere. his role may change, but it will take a few years. At some point we will have to develop a PG for the future. Maybe, this year's draft. When Manu retires, TP will take the offense from the bench role. Pop will limit him to 20-25 min per game to extend his career. As such, look for the Spurs to try and find a big PG (6-4 or 6-5) who at times will play along TP. All things considered, it is the most logical conclusion.

[spurs10]

Parker is not going, anywhere. his role may change, but it will take a few years. At some point we will have to develop a PG for the future. Maybe, this year's draft. When Manu retires, TP will take the offense from the bench role. Pop will limit him to 20-25 min per game to extend his career. As such, look for the Spurs to try and find a big PG (6-4 or 6-5) who at times will play along TP. All things considered, it is the most logical conclusion. For next year there's a talented guy named Manu Ginobili who would fit this bill.

[dbreiden83080]

Trade him for who?

[Malik Hairston]

600825870681505792

If there's any front office that is still living in the past, it's the Knicks:lol..

:stirpot::stirpot:

[FireMicoHalili]

well they did scout PG/SG D'Angelo Russell...given the chance I'd flip Parker for the 3rd/4th pick if and when Duncan and Ginobili don't come back

[tim_duncan_fan]

well they did scout PG/SG D'Angelo Russell...given the chance I'd flip Parker for the 3rd/4th pick if and when Duncan and Ginobili don't come back

I'd flip Parker for a #4 pick especially if Tim is coming back.

Nobody, not even the Knicks, is giving us a Top 5 pick for Tony Parker. The league knows he's a third of the player he once was. That's not Spurs corporate knowledge.

[HI-FI]

We'll have to wait for Pop to retire before Parker can be let go.

[Mikeanaro]

No one has the GUTS to even try it, Pork could dismantle the menace in seconds by playing 48 minutes for the other team thats 6 vs 4, Im sorry but thats impossible.
A trade involves offering a player to a team, and that team accepting the player in exchange for money or other player etc. with just one team saying no HE WILL KNOW IT!
So we have only one chance out of 30, too risky.

[mclinejr]

Parker's not going anywhere.

Pop's not going anywhere.

Deal with it.

[cutewizard]

possibility may not equate with certaintybut if enough people want it, and management suddenly becomes aware that we the fans want it so muchwho knows?

[MultiTroll]

No.

[spurspokesman]

This has become the elephant in the room it seems

[DMC]

They traded Sean and Brent Barry. I'd like to see them trade Tony, but they won't as long as the other two are there. If those two left, I think Tony is a goner.

[Sean Cagney]

They traded Sean and Brent Barry. I'd like to see them trade Tony, but they won't as long as the othent. two are there. If those two left, I think Tony is a goner.

Trade him for what? Just to get rid of him and then start who??? 33 on his downside nobody will give anything of value for him at this point in his career.

[DMC]

Trade him for what? Just to get rid of him and then start who??? 33 on his downside nobody will give anything of value for him at this point in his career.

So? What are you expecting? If you want to build something you have to start with good materials, not "well we love this old wood even though it won't support the rest of the structure, so let's use it" type shit.

[Brazil]

:lol loyalty stuff

Spurs FO is loyal in a sense of taking care of their players and negotiating ahead but except for Duncan nobody is untradable for the right price.

Now I don't think it is 1. clever to trade a player at his lowest perceived value and 2. Parker has a significant contract to swallow for a taker... at the end there is no market for him atm for the perceived "right price" in Pop's mind.

[Sean Cagney]

So? What are you expecting? If you want to build something you have to start with good materials, not "well we love this old wood even though it won't support the rest of the structure, so let's use it" type shit.

So go tell the front office to trade him then since it will net a positive in return by our logic. They won't get jack for him at this point in all reality after last season and being 33 now. Who do they start if they trade him? Joseph? You know the FO is loyal and he will retire a Spur so all this trade him talk on here is irrelevant in reality, like it or not he is probably a Spur for life.

[cd98]

Any Parker trade would require getting a point guard in return. If not, there would be a huge gap in our line up. And we would have to trade for a PG better than Parker, which would be tough to do. Basically, he's not going to be traded this offseason.

[Malik Hairston]

Any Parker trade would require getting a point guard in return. If not, there would be a huge gap in our line up. And we would have to trade for a PG better than Parker, which would be tough to do. Basically, he's not going to be traded this offseason.

:lol no, it wouldn't be tough to do, at all, realistically..

[cd98]

:lol no, it wouldn't be tough to do, at all, realistically..

I'm assuming this is just trolling. Hopefully, you don't think that the Spurs are a better team with Patty Mills or Cojo playing 30 minutes a game as our starting point guard. If you do, then you don't know what you are talking about. Patty Mills isn't a point guard, and probably wouldn't be in the lineup, but for being able to play with Manu. With Manu out, Mills is just an undersized shooting guard. Cojo had a starting gig for the Spurs when Parker was injured. It happened to be the worst stretch of the season for the Spurs, and the main reason they were such a low seed. And the free agent market offers no improvements. Parker is way better than those options. So what point guard are you going to trade for? You aren't getting a top 10 point guard in a trade. So basically, you are stuck with Parker whether you like it or not. Just be thankful he didn't demand what the market would have paid him on his last extension. Dude has taken pay cuts on every contract to stay with the Spurs.

[Johnny RIngo]

Has nothing to do with the Spurs having the "guts". The Spurs CAN'T trade him. How many teams are willing to pay $14 mil/year for a point guard that gives you worse production than Rondo? Like others have said, the FO's retarded decision to hand Tony that monstrous contract has handicapped this team's ability to contend for the foreseeable future. Just to land a player like Aldridge they'll need to move valuable assets.

[ducks]

if parker was playing at the 14 million level they would have to move valuable assest for alridge any how

if parker was playing above 14 million level they would have to move valuable assest for alridge any how

[Johnny RIngo]

if parker was playing at the 14 million level they would have to move valuable assest for alridge any how

if parker was playing above 14 million level they would have to move valuable assest for alridge any how

If they were paying Parker what he was actually worth(less than 8 mil), they would have a shit ton more flexibility this off-season. Hell, if they never gave Parker that extension they could have gotten him to come back cheap after the trainwreck of a season he just had. That $45 mil deal looked bad even last summer(with more than a few posters on ST complaining about it). Now it looks like it's going to kill the Tim Duncan era for good.

[ducks]

parker could have been playing at a higher level then what he is getting paid
last year barkley said he was the top point guard in the nba

and bringing up st posters here with all the tp trolling here means nothing
you always disliked tp from day one

if spurs were paying tp 8 million they would have given more to manu and Duncan and they would be still not have more cap space

[Johnny RIngo]

parker could have been playing at a higher level then what he is getting paid
last year barkley said he was the top point guard in the nba

and bringing up st posters here with all the tp trolling here means nothing
you always disliked tp from day one

if spurs were paying tp 8 million they would have given more to manu and Duncan and they would be still not have more cap space

:lol Using what Charles Barkley says as justification for Tony's terrible contract. Porker fans getting REALLLLY desperate now.

[z0sa]

:lol Using what Charles Barkley says as justification for Tony's terrible contract. Porker fans getting REALLLLY desperate now.

:lol you and the other kids on here spending hours every day bashing Parker are the only ones who look desperate.. desperate for attention, that is.

[Malik Hairston]

:lmao Barkley said..Jesus..

[pgardn]

He is not tradeable at this point. If he performs poorly again next year and can't move Pop will use him accordingly. Problem is he had a stretch during our seed run during the regular season where he showed signs of old Tony. Guaranteed both Pop and Tony have discussed this. Problem Pop had right now there is no one on the team that can fill this fast Tony role for any length of time.

We are not going deep into the playoffs with Patty or CoJo playing 30 min. at point. Dream on. We don't have a big minute point. Those are the facts right now. Wake up.

[pgardn]

Also get this through your skulls.


We don't get 5 with Tony out. No way, now how. That contract got us 5. But it now rears its old head. So try and make it easy by denial of the good and bad of all longer contracts. You guys act like this is some Allan Houston deal.

[dg7md]

Maybe we can grab a quality PG like Chris Paul and never make it back to the Western Conference Finals ever again.

You're absurd. If we had Chris Paul we'd have repeated. Chris Paul in our system would be an MVP candidate...

[ducks]

cp3 has not gotten out of second round how do we repeat with him??????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????

[itsamanuthree]

Comparing Parker to CP3 :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

[Maj_G]

cp3 has not gotten out of second round how do we repeat with him??????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????

Yes, so are you saying Tony and Blake would be playing in the finals now??????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????/

[mkurts]

cp3 has not gotten out of second round how do we repeat with him??????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????

What repeat ? We have never repeated with Parker.

What is this crap ?

[Nathan89]

Lol, yah I'm sure that he would have won the championship even though he couldn't get to the WCF with Griffin putting up 26 PPG, 13 RPG, 6 APG on 51% shooting. Hahahahaha! When's the last time Parker had someone on his team play that good in the postseason? (besides himself)

I'll answer the question: Duncan in 2003, who put up 26 PPG, 15 RPG, 5 APG on 53% shooting.

So you're saying Griffin is better than post 2003 Duncan.:lmao