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raybies
06-24-2015, 12:28 AM
Yeah, I'm not impressed. He might be a good pick to use as sweetener for a possible trade of Splitter. But if we go big I'd rather have Gudaitis or Milutinov.

cd021
06-24-2015, 04:57 AM
He seems like a mixed bag.. He always seems to be moving at half speed.

Draft net compared him to Al Farouq Aminu. Very good rebounder, long (7'3 1/2 wingspan, would be the longest on the team) Chance to be a good defender. Have heard mixed things about him though. He did shoot 41% from 3 on 1.5 attempts. There's a chance that he could develop into a stretch 4. Its similar to Kyle Anderson's college 3pt numbers (1.4 Attempts, 37.5%)

cd021
06-24-2015, 05:01 AM
Nance has sky rocketed. Chad Ford mentioned that he could be taken in the first round. A week ago, He was projected in the late 2nd round. Tokoto could be available if Fords mock is fairly accurate. (he's projected at 59)

cd021
06-24-2015, 05:10 AM
Per Ken Berger, the Houston Rockets are interested in Memphis' 25th pick or San Antonio's 26th pick...

The logic that the Spurs may move their pick to save so they can resign Leonard and pursue FAs doesn't make much sense. They could always Draft N' Stash. (Hernagomez has been linked through various mocks). Then again, adding a young player for less than a million would still give the Spurs $15.7 million in cap space, $9 million+ (not include $2.7 from the room exception) if the Duncan report is accurate.

AFBlue
06-24-2015, 05:47 AM
RE: Larry Nance. Hopefully subterfuge.

http://trib.com/sports/college/wyoming/mbb/analysts-former-wyoming-star-larry-nance-jr-could-be-drafted/article_fff61556-5216-5340-9cf4-902f7b1aeec2.html

Amico is the only guy THAT bullish on Nance's stock. It's still possible the Spurs could use their first round pick on him, but I think it's more likely they target him in a trade back scenario into the early-mid second.

Dro210
06-24-2015, 06:54 AM
I want RJ Hunter really bad. Think he could be special with us.

Mal
06-24-2015, 07:04 AM
Woj should already know who Spurs are picking. I wonder why he hestiate to announce it.

AFBlue
06-24-2015, 08:16 AM
Woj should already know who Spurs are picking. I wonder why he hestiate to announce it.

He wants to increase his Twitter followers ten-fold on draft day.

look_at_g_shred
06-24-2015, 09:54 AM
If Anderson, Harrell, Vaughn, and Hunter are all still on the board (highly doubtful) who do we pick??

Vic Petro
06-24-2015, 10:13 AM
If Anderson, Harrell, Vaughn, and Hunter are all still on the board (highly doubtful) who do we pick??

From that list I wouldn't hesitate to take Anderson.

look_at_g_shred
06-24-2015, 10:37 AM
From that list I wouldn't hesitate to take Anderson.
He's definitely first on my list.

Chinook
06-24-2015, 11:10 AM
If Anderson, Harrell, Vaughn, and Hunter are all still on the board (highly doubtful) who do we pick??

Vaughn.

RD2191
06-24-2015, 11:13 AM
Vaughn.
How so his defense?

loveforthegame
06-24-2015, 11:13 AM
If Anderson, Harrell, Vaughn, and Hunter are all still on the board (highly doubtful) who do we pick??

Anderson. He's been my pick for awhile.

Chinook
06-24-2015, 11:29 AM
How so his defense?

Not great at UNLV, but from what I hear, it wasn't emphasized. Seems to have the tools to be a good defender, and he's a natural scorer. Seems like a perfect compliment to Anderson on the wings.

RD2191
06-24-2015, 11:40 AM
Not great at UNLV, but from what I hear, it wasn't emphasized. Seems to have the tools to be a good defender, and he's a natural scorer. Seems like a perfect compliment to Anderson on the wings.
Do you think he could replace Green if he bolts?

stnick2261
06-24-2015, 11:44 AM
I like, depending on where we end of drafting (if we make a trade)
Willie Cauley-Stein
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Justin Anderson
Christian Wood

Cloud786
06-24-2015, 11:48 AM
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Chinook
06-24-2015, 11:54 AM
Do you think he could replace Green if he bolts?

Don't think so. The dude's 18 right now. I'd much rather him just have a role as a bench scorer for a couple of years until he grows into his body and game. The Spurs would need a new starter if they lose Danny.

look_at_g_shred
06-24-2015, 12:22 PM
made to be mocked-mock :lol

Mr.Bottomtooth
06-24-2015, 12:34 PM
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look_at_g_shred
06-24-2015, 12:39 PM
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How reputable is this guy?

BatManu20
06-24-2015, 12:42 PM
What would the Spurs give up to move up in the draft? That's a big jump if they want to move up 12 spots. I doubt a Western Conference team would trade their pick to us unless it was for a king's ransom.

BillMc
06-24-2015, 12:42 PM
made to be mocked-mock :lol
:lol Sounds Spinal Tap-ish.

K...
06-24-2015, 12:57 PM
Wow splitter to okc? What? That can't be it.


Maybe mills and 26 + ????. Maybe we're taking salary from okc. I. Believe it cuz okc is so cheap. What they did last year still makes me laugh. The more that I think about it helping a division rival upgrade talent would probably be less embarrassing than drafting another un athletic white boy

raybies
06-24-2015, 12:59 PM
The thunder? Splitter and the 26th could get it done. But to rivals. That's not typically how we do business.

Actually last i read, they were looking to salary dump Perry Jones, Jeremy Lamb, and some other guy for a pick, so maybe that could be involved.

I'm not sure if I believe Alex but it would't surprise me if they got a call. Not everyone has the same work ethics as we do.

Chinook
06-24-2015, 01:10 PM
Only way I could see it is if OKC trades Adams and they need a backup five. Otherwise, it makes no sense to acquire Splitter. I'm sure they'd love Mills though.

bklynspursfan
06-24-2015, 01:14 PM
How reputable is this guy?

He's pretty reputable from what i've seen. Not Woj level of course.

ernest787
06-24-2015, 01:19 PM
Kennedy is a hack.

90% of the time he tweets right after reputable sources have already put the info out there. I'm banned from his tweeter for calling him on it.

Wait till WOJ or someone else reports it to believe it.

CGD
06-24-2015, 01:19 PM
Only way I could see it is if OKC trades Adams and they need a backup five. Otherwise, it makes no sense to acquire Splitter. I'm sure they'd love Mills though.

Didn't you have a trade scenario where the Spurs traded for ATLs 15th? (Can't seem to find) What would that look like with OKCs 14th?

raybies
06-24-2015, 01:20 PM
Would make sense if they did. They have Kanter and McGary now. Wouldn't that be funny if they wanted Boris. Would make some sense too, cause he is one of our advantages over them. Losing Bobo for the 14th would make us weaker short term vs small ball teams.

timtonymanu
06-24-2015, 01:22 PM
How reputable is this guy?

He called TJ Ford to the Spurs iirc but he usually isn't the best source.

look_at_g_shred
06-24-2015, 01:28 PM
I could see them using Kanter and Augustin and lamb as trade baits. I can't see them letting go of Adams though.

Chinook
06-24-2015, 01:30 PM
Didn't you have a trade scenario where the Spurs traded for ATLs 15th? (Can't seem to find) What would that look like with OKCs 14th?

I wanted 15 for Splitter straight up. Maybe Mills to them as well if they also sent back Tavarres. For OKC, I'd do Splitter and 26 for 14 and Jones.

BillMc
06-24-2015, 01:30 PM
We should just draft an Anderson every year until one of them turns out be any good.

raybies
06-24-2015, 01:33 PM
Kanter is the low post scoring threat they have severely lacked and they have Ibaka to stand by him and protect the rim. It's a pretty good pairing. IMO. Adams is a pretty good center, but more of a luxury at this point with them having Mitch McGary.

TheGoldStandard
06-24-2015, 01:34 PM
Not going to happen

szkorhetz
06-24-2015, 01:34 PM
I wanted 15 for Splitter straight up. Maybe Mills to them as well if they also sent back Tavarres. For OKC, I'd do Splitter and 26 for 14 and Jones.

DEAL.

buttsR4rebounding
06-24-2015, 01:38 PM
If they get the 14th pick I hope they pick Portis. I think he is this year's Kawhi. He is going to have a long productive NBA career.

Nathan89
06-24-2015, 02:03 PM
Splitter and Ibaka on defense:wow

cd98
06-24-2015, 03:03 PM
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Hmmm, Spurs got Kawhi with the 15th pick.

stnick2261
06-24-2015, 03:10 PM
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Hmmm, Spurs got Kawhi with the 15th pick.

There is a legit chance Willie Cauley-Stein might be around at 14

TheGoldStandard
06-24-2015, 03:13 PM
There is a legit chance Willie Cauley-Stein might be around at 14

Doubt it unless his foot injury rumors start growing

RD2191
06-24-2015, 03:19 PM
who the fuck is alex kennedy?

Roger Freemason Jr.
06-24-2015, 03:19 PM
I suspect something like, Rockets trade Sergio Llull and a 2nd round pick for our 26th. The Spurs then flip Llull and maybe a future first rounder to OKC. Since Llull might be viewed as the best PG talent available at 14 anyways, if that's what OKC wants to address. Idk, just wouldn't want them to improve so much, and if Splitter gets healthy and they get him, that defense would be hard to overcome.

stnick2261
06-24-2015, 03:31 PM
Doubt it unless his foot injury rumors start growing

That's exactly what I would count on...

Cauley-Stein's Foot Giving Lottery Teams Pause (http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Cauley-Steins-Foot-Giving-Lottery-Teams-Pause-5123/)

"Five separate NBA teams we spoke with all indicated varying degrees of concern after consulting with their team doctors this week, with some saying it may cost the Kentucky big man a few spots on draft night... ...Even beyond any injury concerns, a more pressing issue that Cauley-Stein is dealing with is the apparent lack of need for a player with his skill-set in the 7-10 range, should he fall past Orlando or Sacramento at 5 or 6."

613804647426473984 (https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/613804647426473984)

raybies
06-24-2015, 03:34 PM
I would trade up for Willie Cauley-Stein. Anyone else?

DPG21920
06-24-2015, 03:42 PM
Alex Kenn isn't as popular as most and isn't as plugged in, but I wouldn't dismiss him as completely out of the loop IMO.

I wonder if Boris to OKC is a thing? I can see Boris/Patty/#26 for #14. Clears up the cap space issues and gets Spurs a lottery pick. I would hate to see Tiago or Boris on OKC though.

TheGoldStandard
06-24-2015, 03:46 PM
I would trade up for Willie Cauley-Stein. Anyone else?

I'd snatch him up in a heartbeat. He doesn't need to be anything but a defensive stud

stnick2261
06-24-2015, 03:50 PM
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If true, this would knock Willie out of spot 11

raybies
06-24-2015, 03:50 PM
Alex Kenn isn't as popular as most and isn't as plugged in, but I wouldn't dismiss him as completely out of the loop IMO.

I wonder if Boris to OKC is a thing? I can see Boris/Patty/#26 for #14. Clears up the cap space issues and gets Spurs a lottery pick. I would hate to see Tiago or Boris on OKC though.

More Boris for me than Tiago. Boris is so valuable for late-game situations and mainly small ball.

Seventyniner
06-24-2015, 04:05 PM
I would trade up for Willie Cauley-Stein. Anyone else?

It's more of a question of how far up you have to trade to get him. 14 might not be high enough.

K...
06-24-2015, 04:28 PM
Boris is probably only playing at a high level for one more year. He's definitely worth his contract but if another team wants him so be it. We know he won't have a grudge against us. You'd probably have you bench him in the play offs if he faced us. Lol.



Basically like every other dang issues it's all about value. The only untradable players are kawhi and Tim.

stnick2261
06-24-2015, 04:30 PM
It's more of a question of how far up you have to trade to get him. 14 might not be high enough.

he could go as early as #5... but you negotiate the trade and only pull the trigger if he falls enough

Baam
06-24-2015, 04:49 PM
Imo the target is Myles Turner, dont see anyone else who really makes sense at 14. Maybe Payne but I doubt it.

Juan
06-24-2015, 04:53 PM
For those Texas fans who watched Turner.. Could he be a good Tiago replacement?

Thomas82
06-24-2015, 05:49 PM
I like, depending on where we end of drafting (if we make a trade)
Willie Cauley-Stein
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Justin Anderson
Christian Wood

My wishlist (no particular order) depending on where we draft:

Willie Cauley-Stein
Myles Turner
Christian Wood
Trey Lyles

DesignatedT
06-24-2015, 06:06 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 4m4 minutes ago
Portland is finalizing a trade to send Nic Batum to Charlotte for Noah Vonleh and Gerald Henderson, league sources tell Yahoo.

TheGoldStandard
06-24-2015, 06:18 PM
Aldridge probably told Portland he's bolting and his agent is getting in touch with SA. Might see that trade tomorrow night after all

admiralsnackbar
06-24-2015, 06:23 PM
If they get the 14th pick I hope they pick Portis. I think he is this year's Kawhi. He is going to have a long productive NBA career. Co-signed.

NASpurs
06-24-2015, 06:27 PM
Get a fucking NBA Offseason thread in here :lol

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Mugen
06-24-2015, 06:35 PM
Lamb has all the tools for a Corey Brewer type career. He's even got the same ugly dog face that Brewer has tbh.

ace3g
06-24-2015, 06:40 PM
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AFBlue
06-24-2015, 07:15 PM
Spurs didn't bring anyone in that was projected to go before the early 20's, so the only lead you might have in speculating who they'd target is what types of players they worked out....namely combo scoring guards and long, athletic defensive bigs.

What that tells me...in a trade-up scenario the Spurs are probably targeting Payne, Hunter, Cauley-Stein, Turner, or Portis. Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if they went totally off-script with someone like Dekker or Kaminsky.

baseline bum
06-24-2015, 07:16 PM
Fuck no to Hibbert.

TheGoldStandard
06-24-2015, 07:19 PM
Spurs didn't bring anyone in that was projected to go before the early 20's, so the only lead you might have in speculating who they'd target is what types of players they worked out....namely combo scoring guards and long, athletic defensive bigs.

What that tells me...in a trade-up scenario the Spurs are probably targeting Payne, Hunter, Cauley-Stein, Turner, or Portis. Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if they went totally off-script with someone like Dekker or Kaminsky.

I would be okay with Dekker but kaminsky? No thanks.

look_at_g_shred
06-24-2015, 07:22 PM
I'm down with Splitter, Mills, and 26 to get Stein.

AFBlue
06-24-2015, 07:22 PM
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My guess is that they are sold on Payne, and if he goes early (e.g. Indiana at #11) they'll look to sell the pick. There is definitely good value at that pick if the Spurs are able to pry it.

TheGoldStandard
06-24-2015, 07:24 PM
I'm down with Splitter, Mills, and 26 to get Stein.

If he is even 75% of his projected ceiling it would be a huge steal.

AFBlue
06-24-2015, 07:28 PM
I would be okay with Dekker but kaminsky? No thanks.

I think Kaminsky is a pretty well-rounded player. He lacks athleticism and doesn't have much remaining upside/potential to improve his game, but I think he could be a solid rotation player on a playoff-caliber team. I don't think he's an all-star, but I doubt anyone at #14 will be.

TheGoldStandard
06-24-2015, 07:30 PM
I think Kaminsky is a pretty well-rounded player. He lacks athleticism and doesn't have much remaining upside/potential to improve his game, but I think he could be a solid rotation player on a playoff-caliber team. I don't think he's an all-star, but I doubt anyone at #14 will be.

If it came to Dekker or kaminsky I think Dekker had much more upside and can put it on the floor, create his own shot and play the 3. But if WCS is there no question who you take

raybies
06-24-2015, 07:34 PM
Could push him farther down. And we wouldn't need him to start the season, since we would presumably have Duncan to man the 5.



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AFBlue
06-24-2015, 07:40 PM
If it came to Dekker or kaminsky I think Dekker had much more upside and can put it on the floor, create his own shot and play the 3. But if WCS is there no question who you take

You and I probably just have a philosophical difference of opinion. In my mind, I see Kaminsky as a guy that showed up to Wisconsin and was a below average athlete with below average skill. He left Wisconsin as the focal point for the offense...a below average athlete with above average skill. You know by his results that he wants to be a great player, and though his athleticism will limit his ceiling you don't question his desire to improve.

WCS on the other hand, came to Kentucky as an above average athlete with below average skill. He never developed into a go-to player and left Kentucky much the same as he came in. While he still has considerable upside and better physical tools, you have to question whether he'll come close to reaching that potential.

Again, philosophical difference...but I pick the lower upside guy who has demonstrated growth and a desire to be better.

look_at_g_shred
06-24-2015, 07:53 PM
My guess is that they are sold on Payne, and if he goes early (e.g. Indiana at #11) they'll look to sell the pick. There is definitely good value at that pick if the Spurs are able to pry it.
What are your thoughts on Payne? Seems like everything we need from a PG stand point.

tholdren
06-24-2015, 07:55 PM
You and I probably just have a philosophical difference of opinion. In my mind, I see Kaminsky as a guy that showed up to Wisconsin and was a below average athlete with below average skill. He left Wisconsin as the focal point for the offense...a below average athlete with above average skill. You know by his results that he wants to be a great player, and though his athleticism will limit his ceiling you don't question his desire to improve.

WCS on the other hand, came to Kentucky as an above average athlete with below average skill. He never developed into a go-to player and left Kentucky much the same as he came in. While he still has considerable upside and better physical tools, you have to question whether he'll come close to reaching that potential.

Again, philosophical difference...but I pick the lower upside guy who has demonstrated growth and a desire to be better.

Spurs FO agrees with you. You have to have people willing to work. They draft like a good business. Hire candidates that you can mold. Hence the reason I don't want guys who have to go out and be wooed. That's an agenda thing. You want to win or make money, you don't have time for agendas.

TheGoldStandard
06-24-2015, 07:58 PM
You and I probably just have a philosophical difference of opinion. In my mind, I see Kaminsky as a guy that showed up to Wisconsin and was a below average athlete with below average skill. He left Wisconsin as the focal point for the offense...a below average athlete with above average skill. You know by his results that he wants to be a great player, and though his athleticism will limit his ceiling you don't question his desire to improve.

WCS on the other hand, came to Kentucky as an above average athlete with below average skill. He never developed into a go-to player and left Kentucky much the same as he came in. While he still has considerable upside and better physical tools, you have to question whether he'll come close to reaching that potential.

Again, philosophical difference...but I pick the lower upside guy who has demonstrated growth and a desire to be better.

Completely get what you're saying. My thing is if the end game is LMA then you need a defensive big who is athletic.

AFBlue
06-24-2015, 08:03 PM
What are your thoughts on Payne? Seems like everything we need from a PG stand point.

Best pure PG in the draft given his present skill set and size/length. My question is whether he can play spot minutes at the 2 alongside Parker, because I don't know how much value he has strictly as Parker's backup. Given Parker's contract and stated desire to play 5-6 more years, there are probably other more pressing needs.

AFBlue
06-24-2015, 08:07 PM
Completely get what you're saying. My thing is if the end game is LMA then you need a defensive big who is athletic.

In terms of roster fit, I totally get that.

CGD
06-24-2015, 09:04 PM
I wanted 15 for Splitter straight up. Maybe Mills to them as well if they also sent back Tavarres. For OKC, I'd do Splitter and 26 for 14 and Jones.

Sounds like a good deal if the Spurs are making a play for LMA.

Okc is in a tough spot since they have limited roster slots to resign all of the guys they just acquired, namely kantar. I can see their interest in stashing a late 1st rounder.

Edit: looks like they just shipped Lamb to Charlotte and therefore have a roster slot. Wonder if Mills + 26 for 14 would work?

Nathan89
06-24-2015, 09:10 PM
Best pure PG in the draft given his present skill set and size/length. My question is whether he can play spot minutes at the 2 alongside Parker, because I don't know how much value he has strictly as Parker's backup. Given Parker's contract and stated desire to play 5-6 more years, there are probably other more pressing needs.

Parker isn't playing 5-6 more years with this team. If this guy is talented he could be needed this year instead of Parker come playoff time and in the regular season Parker shouldn't be getting over 30mpg. Someone needs to take over Manu's responsibilities on the bench and Patty can't do it. Parker's contract makes it important to obtain a talented pg on a rookie contract.

If Spurs trade up to the 14 range I think they pick payne.

AFBlue
06-24-2015, 09:14 PM
Generally speaking, I'm excited for tomorrow. Not only does it look like the Spurs are actively exploring their options, it also appears there could be some impact players chosen this year. If they come away with two picks that are both draft-n-stash, I'll be surprised...and honestly a little disappointed. Hoping for more this year.

AFBlue
06-24-2015, 09:22 PM
Parker isn't playing 5-6 more years with this team. If this guy is talented he could be needed this year instead of Parker come playoff time and in the regular season Parker shouldn't be getting over 30mpg. Someone needs to take over Manu's responsibilities on the bench and Patty can't do it. Parker's contract makes it important to obtain a talented pg on a rookie contract.

If Spurs trade up to the 14 range I think they pick payne.

Mills did it two years ago, and the Spurs still may re-sign CoJo to fill time. Parker may also have a better offseason and come into the year more prepared for the grind. My point is, there are options at PG. Payne would be really nice, but I don't think he's the slam dunk pick at #14 if that's the trade up spot.

Also as I understand it, the Thunder are very high on Payne. I could be wrong, but I think an OKC trade scenario is contingent on Payne being selected prior to OKC. In that case it would be a moot point.

Nathan89
06-24-2015, 11:04 PM
If the Spurs want to get into the the lower part of the lottery for a specific player then they should trade Splitter to the Bucks for pick 17 and send that and our 26th pick to which ever team wants multiple pieces without much movement. If Bucks are aiming for a nice versatile defensive lineup they should really value Splitter now that Sanders is gone.

Roger Freemason Jr.
06-25-2015, 06:20 AM
If the Spurs can get their hands on any of the picks from 17 to 20, do you think they go with Justin Anderson, and let Green walk? I hope not.


Maybe they trade Splitter and the 26th for the 17th, and Tyler Ennis. However, that would leave Milwaukee with 11m to work with unless they exercise that early termination option on Jared Dudley, but I don't know how that works, or if that would open up the 4m he was owed. Anyways, that's 15m in cap space for the Bucks after absorbing Splitter's contract, and that's just enough to re-sign Middleton. I can't see them viewing an offseason where their biggest splash was acquiring Splitter as a good one, but they may just be looking to greener pastures with a healthy Parker up and running. Can't argue with the fact that Splitter is better than Miles Plumlee, Zaza Pachulia, or a young Damien Inglis. Also, like Nathan89 said, the Bucks value defense above all, and Splitter provides defense, along with much needed court vision on that young team. Ennis looks to become a promising back-up point guard as well, so wouldn't be surprised if Bucks explored other avenues.

hsxvvd
06-25-2015, 08:15 AM
NBA Tv goes to commercial before the Spurs pick ... even in the mock draft!

jjktkk
06-25-2015, 08:48 AM
NBA Tv goes to commercial before the Spurs pick ... even in the mock draft!

:lol

ironman2886
06-25-2015, 08:50 AM
NBA Tv goes to commercial before the Spurs pick ... even in the mock draft!
:lmao

Russ
06-25-2015, 08:51 AM
NBA Tv goes to commercial before the Spurs pick ... even in the mock draft!

They had the Spurs picking Montrezl Harrell for what it's worth . . .

wildbill2u
06-25-2015, 12:18 PM
Same here, the majority of the euros that draft and stash never come over

That probably has more to do with:
1. Our drafting situation over the years is so low that getting anyone of any use is problematical and we'd have to pay an American player, while foreign players can be stashed without any payment. It's a clever move to save cash while hoping against hope that one of these guys will develop into the next Manu or Parker.
2. The percentage of players drafted at 20th and lower who ever have careers in the NBA is very low because their talent at that draft level is very low. We've seen a lot of American players that the SPurs drafted who didn't measure up and cost us rookie salaries for nothing. See draft and stash to save cash above.
3. Some foreign players we have drafted have come over and played in the NBA--Scola and Mahinmi come to mind--although not as great players for the Spurs.
4. Others, like Javtokas and Bertans have been injured and not come over because of it. (Is it Bertans I'm thinking of?) And that Georgian SF. Some injuries are permanently limiting when they persist and come up against NBA talent.
5. And others simply didn't have the right stuff to make it with the Spurs or wanted to stay in their home countries and be a big frog in a small pond.

TheGoldStandard
06-25-2015, 12:34 PM
That probably has more to do with:
1. Our drafting situation over the years is so low that getting anyone of any use is problematical and we'd have to pay an American player, while foreign players can be stashed without any payment. It's a clever move to save cash while hoping against hope that one of these guys will develop into the next Manu or Parker.
2. The percentage of players drafted at 20th and lower who ever have careers in the NBA is very low because their talent at that draft level is very low. We've seen a lot of American players that the SPurs drafted who didn't measure up and cost us rookie salaries for nothing. See draft and stash to save cash above.
3. Some foreign players we have drafted have come over and played in the NBA--Scola and Mahinmi come to mind--although not as great players for the Spurs.
4. Others, like Javtokas and Bertans have been injured and not come over because of it. (Is it Bertans I'm thinking of?) And that Georgian SF. Some injuries are permanently limiting when they persist and come up against NBA talent.
5. And others simply didn't have the right stuff to make it with the Spurs or wanted to stay in their home countries and be a big frog in a small pond.


It seems as if they are just afterthoughts with no real scream for potential so why not trade them for something if we are going to pick up fodder? I understand that being drafted so low doesn't usually yield positive results but they're not drafting freak athletes who will grow into their bodies or have huge upside if they can learn to shoot and use fundementals. They get middle of the road guys who have a 20% chance of succeeding.

K...
06-25-2015, 01:03 PM
It seems as if they are just afterthoughts with no real scream for potential so why not trade them for something if we are going to pick up fodder? I understand that being drafted so low doesn't usually yield positive results but they're not drafting freak athletes who will grow into their bodies or have huge upside if they can learn to shoot and use fundementals. They get middle of the road guys who have a 20% chance of succeeding.

This is just wrong. Those Euro players are fine. With low first round picks who would have been better? Hindsight is great is all but I think you really overrated non lottery draft talent

BatManu20
06-25-2015, 01:07 PM
Could push him farther down. And we wouldn't need him to start the season, since we would presumably have Duncan to man the 5.



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I doubt the Spurs can even trade up that far, but if they did, I doubt they'd draft a guy who recently legally changed his name to "Willy Trill" :lol

RD2191
06-25-2015, 01:08 PM
I doubt the Spurs can even trade up that far, but if they did, I doubt they'd draft a guy who recently legally changed his name to "Willy Trill" :lol
:lmao

BatManu20
06-25-2015, 01:11 PM
I don't see any team trading a borderline lottery pick for a 30-year old, injury prone Tiago Splitter who's still owed $17 Million over the next 2 seasons. They can get a younger, healthier, and cheaper option with that pick.

cd98
06-25-2015, 01:24 PM
I don't see any team trading a borderline lottery pick for a 30-year old, injury prone Tiago Splitter who's still owed $17 Million over the next 2 seasons. They can get a younger, healthier, and cheaper option with that pick.

Right. A team in the hunt for a title goes for a skilled 30 year old. A lottery team drafts young and hopes to develop a star. Splitter is a late lottery or top 20 first rounder type of trade.

Chinook
06-25-2015, 01:36 PM
I don't see any team trading a borderline lottery pick for a 30-year old, injury prone Tiago Splitter who's still owed $17 Million over the next 2 seasons. They can get a younger, healthier, and cheaper option with that pick.

I have no idea why people say that like it's a bad thing. Do you know how much Koufos and Lopez are going to cost? More than that. Mozgov and Whiteside are probably going to cost twice that much in 2016.

There's that stupid rumor that the Celtics are dreaming of a Love-Lopez front court. But if they can secure Splitter for just 28 and/or 34 using their Rondo TPE, it will be much easier for them to get the space to use on Love.

Mal
06-25-2015, 01:39 PM
I don't see any team trading a borderline lottery pick for a 30-year old, injury prone Tiago Splitter who's still owed $17 Million over the next 2 seasons. They can get a younger, healthier, and cheaper option with that pick.

Splitter has very good deal, he`s a good player. Future 1st rounder + Tiago is as valueable as lottery pick. All stars nowadays are looking for good players that are already on the team. Tiago is good player with good deal. He isnt cancer, he works on defense and always defend best big on the floor.

dbestpro
06-25-2015, 01:56 PM
Tiago's contract was front loaded. His cost is relatively cheap for his position and is one of the factors that make him valuable as a trade asset.

cd98
06-25-2015, 01:58 PM
I have no idea why people say that like it's a bad thing. Do you know how much Koufos and Lopez are going to cost? More than that. Mozgov and Whiteside are probably going to cost twice that much in 2016.

There's that stupid rumor that the Celtics are dreaming of a Love-Lopez front court. But if they can secure Splitter for just 28 and/or 34 using their Rondo TPE, it will be much easier for them to get the space to use on Love.

Lopez makes Splitter look like an iron man.

raybies
06-25-2015, 02:00 PM
I doubt the Spurs can even trade up that far, but if they did, I doubt they'd draft a guy who recently legally changed his name to "Willy Trill" :lol

Dennis Rodman 2.0?:lol

SpursFan86
06-25-2015, 02:59 PM
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Wonder if there's any way we'd go for that. Not sure what we'd have to give up, nor am I sure if there's someone at 18 worth trading up for.

monkeypunk
06-25-2015, 03:26 PM
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Wonder if there's any way we'd go for that. Not sure what we'd have to give up, nor am I sure if there's someone at 18 worth trading up for.

I don't think SAS is going to trade up (guaranteed salary) if they are saving money for a max contract. They are prob going to trade away the 26th for the same reason.