Parker threating not to play for france? (In French translation needed)

[ducks]

http://sports.fr/fr/cmc/basket/200536/cmc_74879.html

Parker mal dans sa peau
11/09/2005 Par WILLIAM MONTJEAN
De Sports.fr A la veille de l'Euro en Serbie, l'équipe de France commence péniblement à se trouver mais Tony Parker, lui, trouve l'équipe de France barbante. C'est ce qui ressort d'un entretien sans langue de bois que le double champion NBA a accordé au Journal du Dimanche. Le meneur des Spurs, agacé par les règles de vie instaurées par le staff des Bleus, se sent visiblement intouchable, au point de s'étonner de l'éviction d'Alain Digbeu ou des libertés accordées à Fred Weis. Malaise...

Après cinq défaites d'affilée, l'équipe de France semble commencer à trouver quelques repères comme en témoignent ses trois succès enregistrés à Limoges contre l'Ukraine, la Bulgarie et la Turquie. Mais si la France s'est rassurée dans le Limousin sur le parquet de Beaublanc, les coulisses semblent toujours aussi agitées. Ainsi, Tony Parker, dont les performances sont au diapason de l'équipe, se répand dans la presse, laissant entendre que tout ne tourne pas parfaitement rond dans le groupe France.

S'il semble relativement confiant sur les chances de la France de prendre place parmi les six premiers pour arracher la qualification pour le Mondial, Tony Parker estime néanmoins que ces Bleus 2005 sont bien inférieurs à ceux de 2003 dont on se souvient de l'échec en Suède. Mais plus que le niveau de jeu de l'équipe de France, TP éprouve des difficultés pour s'adapter à la discipline bleue. Le joueur des Spurs, n'a ainsi de cesse de souligner qu'il s'est plié à la règle commune en participant aux stages de préparation en dépit d'une saison NBA éreintante et des réticences de son coach, Gregg Popovich.

Un effort qui lui pèse d'autant plus quand Fred Weis, explique, pour sa part haut et fort, qu'il a refusé de participer à la préparation pour se reposer. Au moment où il essaie de rejoindre les Bleus pour pallier le forfait de Vincent Masingue, le moins que l'on puisse dire est que Parker ne lui réserve pas un accueil enthousiaste. "Ça me fait chier qu'il arrive en racontant qu'il ne voulait pas faire la préparation alors que des mecs se sont dépouillés pendant un mois et que l'un deux va sans doute sauter. C'est une question de respect.".

Pas très glamour l'équipe de France...

Au passage, non sans oublier de rappeler qu'il ne se "la raconte pas", TP s'interroge à voix haute sur le bien-fondé des stages à la montagne "où on te fait courir comme un fou alors que tu sors d'une saison intense". Et de poursuivre sur l'intérêt de jouer à Limoges plutôt qu'à Paris ou encore sur cette discipline imposée par le staff qui interdit la présence d'une caméra au plus près des joueurs, qui empêche ces derniers de téléphoner à leur guise ou d'écouter de la musique quand bon leur semble... Oui, il respecte "toutes ces décisions, notamment celles du coach", mais Parker s'étonne néanmoins de la mise à l'écart d'Alain Digbeu, "un gars expérimenté et indiscutable dans le groupe"...

En bref, Tony Parker ne se sent pas très bien dans cette ambiance très éloignée de son quotidien en NBA et le fait savoir et on peut se demander s'il est vraiment heureux d'être de l'aventure pour l'Euro. S'il a joué jusque là la carte de l'humilité et s'il s'est plié à la règle du jeu imposée, le meneur des Spurs semble réclamer aujourd'hui un peu plus de considération, à la hauteur de ce qu'il estime mériter eu égard à son statut de superstar, sans visiblement se soucier de ce que ses propos pourraient lui coûter. Persuadé d'être indispensable à la bonne marche de l'équipe, Parker en devient quelque peu vaniteux. "Que peut-on me faire? Si les Français ne sont pas contents, Popovich sera ravi de me voir rester à San Antonio les prochains étés." Une menace qu'il semble rêver de mettre à exécution...

[Victor Newman]

That's pertty sad when your team has players who don't speak english :lmao

[drivanroca]

That's pertty sad when your team has players who don't speak english :lmao


:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[ducks]

pretty sad that tp can school the point guards that speak english

[Victor Newman]

Then again , some players who do speak English? you can't figure out what they are saying anyway, Mutombo :lmao

[drivanroca]

Sorry... Google Transl

With the day before Euro in Serbia, the team of France painfully starts to be but Tony Parker, him, finds the team of France boring.
It is what comes out from a maintenance without set language that double champion NBA granted to the Newspaper of Sunday.
The leader of Spurs, aggravated by the rules of life founded by the staff of Blue, feels obviously untouchable, at the point to be astonished by the ousting of Alain Digbeu or the freedoms granted to Fred Weis. Faintness...

After five defeats of at a stretch, the team of France seems to start to find some reference marks as testify some its three successes recorded in Limoges against the Ukraine, Bulgaria and Turkey.

But if France reassured itself in the Limousin on the parquet floor of Beaublanc, the slides seem always also agitated. Thus, Tony Parker, whose performances are with the tuning fork of the team, spreads himself in the press, making it clear that all does not turn perfectly round in the France group.

If it seems relatively trustful on the chances of France to take seat among the six first to tear off the qualification for the World one, Tony Parker estimates nevertheless that these Blue 2005 are quite lower than those of 2003 which one remembers the failure in Sweden.

But more than the level of team game of France, TP has difficulties in adapting to the blue discipline. The player of Spurs, does not have thus cease to stress that it yielded with the common rule while taking part in the training courses of preparation in one exhausting season spite NBA and reserves of sound coach, Gregg Popovich.

An effort which all the more weighs to him when Fred Weis, explains, for its part high and strong, why it refused to take part in the preparation to rest. At the time when it tries to join the Blue ones to mitigate the fixed price of Vincent Masingue, the least which one can say is that Parker does not hold an enthusiastic reception for him. "That makes me shit that it arrives while telling that it did not want to make the preparation whereas guys were stripped for one month and that one two undoubtedly will jump.

It is a question of respect.". Not very glamour the team of France... In the passing, not without forgetting to recall that it "does not tell it", TP wonders with high voice about the cogency of the training courses to the mountain "where one makes you run as insane whereas you leave one intense season". And to continue on the interest to play in Limoges rather than in Paris or on this discipline imposed by the staff which prohibits the presence of a camera to more close to the players, who prevents the latter telephoning their own way or from listening to music when good seems to them... Yes, it respects "all these decisions, in particular those of the coach", but Parker is astonished nevertheless setting with the variation by Alain Digbeu, "a guy experienced and indisputable in the group"...
In short, Tony Parker does not smell himself very well in this environment very distant from his daily newspaper in NBA and the fact knowledge and one can wonder whether it is really happy to be adventure for Euro.

If it played until there the chart of humility and if it yielded with the imposed rule of the game, the leader of Spurs seems to claim today a little more consideration, with the height of what it estimates to deserve have regard to his statute of superstar, without obviously being concerned with what its remarks could cost him.

Persuaded to be essential to the good walk of the team, Parker becomes somewhat conceited about it. "That can one make me? If the French are not content, Popovich will be delighted by see me remaining in San Antonio the next summers."
A threat which it seems to dream to put at execution...

[Admidave50]

i'll try to translate if i have time!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

That's pertty sad when your team has players who don't speak english :lmao
why is it sad??

[Admidave50]

so here is a quick summary:

TP is getting tired of the rules that have been implemented by the French staff
which is not letting players calling their relatives or listening to music at their wil.
He's also questionning the trip to the mountains where players had to run
like crazy while most of them were tired after playing the whole season.
He's also criticizing the arrival of Fred Weis (a center that was drafter by the Knicks a few years ago and dunked by Carter during the olympics..) because Weis said he didn't participate to the mountain trip to rest while other players close to TP such as Alain Digbeu put a lot of effort and wasn't selected. TP said it wasn't respectful.

TP is not feeling good in this atmosphere, he respects all the decisions of the coach but he didn't understand the non selection of Digbeu who has experienced and deserved to be on the team.

FYI, the coach didn't select Digbeu saying "he was too good" or a shit like this..

TP also said that he thought that the 2005 French team wasn't as good as the 2003 squad and that this one was boring..

At last he said "What can you do to me? If French are not happy, Popovich will be glad to see me staying at San Antonio the upcoming summers".

[zedman]

Sorry... Google Transl

...

In short, Tony Parker does not smell himself very well in this environment ...


Nasal feedback must be very important when playing for France.

[Marcus Bryant]

Good. TP needs to be taking it easy this summer.

[Spurminator]

Is there some animosity towards Parker in France? Didn't he have some conflict with the French team last year too?

I could see some people beginning to think he has gotten a little "big for his britches" in the last few years. I'm curious about how the French feel about him right now, all things considered.

[Admidave50]

hmm TP hasn't played for French team for 2 years if I'm right but yeah there was some conflict because when France lost at the Euro Games two years ago everyone thought Parker was the saviour and that he would make us win.
Unfortunately, it was too much pressure and he's not willing to be the captain once more.

Plus, he's got a lot of hate since he came to the NBA and the way he behave sometimes make him look like a jerk.

I'm kind of suprised of his comments, and what he's saying won't do any good to his image.

[drivanroca]

so here is a quick summary

Nice summary!


:elephant

[orhe]

man that sucks...
hopefully they can do away with their differences

[MaNuMaNiAc]

so here is a quick summary:

TP is getting tired of the rules that have been implemented by the French staff
which is not letting players calling their relatives or listening to music at their wil.
He's also questionning the trip to the mountains where players had to run
like crazy while most of them were tired after playing the whole season.
He's also criticizing the arrival of Fred Weis (a center that was drafter by the Knicks a few years ago and dunked by Carter during the olympics..) because Weis said he didn't participate to the mountain trip to rest while other players close to TP such as Alain Digbeu put a lot of effort and wasn't selected. TP said it wasn't respectful.

TP is not feeling good in this atmosphere, he respects all the decisions of the coach but he didn't understand the non selection of Digbeu who has experienced and deserved to be on the team.

FYI, the coach didn't select Digbeu saying "he was too good" or a shit like this..

TP also said that he thought that the 2005 French team wasn't as good as the 2003 squad and that this one was boring..

At last he said "What can you do to me? If French are not happy, Popovich will be glad to see me staying at San Antonio the upcoming summers".
If what you're saying is true, then Parker needs an attitude adjustment. his celeb status has gone up to his head! Dude needs to chill. Anyway, if he decides to not play, this is good for the Spurs. The attitude doesn't fly with Pop, so thats not going to be a problem here.

[Admidave50]

If what you're saying is true, then Parker needs an attitude adjustment. his celeb status has gone up to his head! Dude needs to chill. Anyway, if he decides to not play, this is good for the Spurs. The attitude doesn't fly with Pop, so thats not going to be a problem here.

i'm just translating the main parts..

[ducks]

I think tp has a right to complain. others did not have to go thru training camp to particapate but he did. He also was already in game game. Dude can not even listen to music. BS!
Does anyone know if other players that play for their country (rasho) get special treament?

[boutons]

NBA starter, 2 NBA rings, a huge multi-year contract, a huge house, a famous show-business girlfriend, fame, "la vie en rose" at 23 years old. And it will probably only get better for him.

Most 23-year-olds would get big heads. Sounds like Tony is no exception.

Sounds like the French team is a real mess, with or without Tony, who should have kept his mouth shut about it.

[TOP-CHERRY]

Boy's just tired of losing... They interviewed Eva on Regis & Kelly and she said he called her once all bummed out that they had lost 5 in a row. "I've never lost 5 in a row my whole life!"

:)

[ObiwanGinobili]

so here is a quick summary:

TP is getting tired of the rules that have been implemented by the French staff
which is not letting players calling their relatives or listening to music at their wil.
He's also questionning the trip to the mountains where players had to run
like crazy while most of them were tired after playing the whole season.
He's also criticizing the arrival of Fred Weis (a center that was drafter by the Knicks a few years ago and dunked by Carter during the olympics..) because Weis said he didn't participate to the mountain trip to rest while other players close to TP such as Alain Digbeu put a lot of effort and wasn't selected. TP said it wasn't respectful.

TP is not feeling good in this atmosphere, he respects all the decisions of the coach but he didn't understand the non selection of Digbeu who has experienced and deserved to be on the team.

FYI, the coach didn't select Digbeu saying "he was too good" or a shit like this..

TP also said that he thought that the 2005 French team wasn't as good as the 2003 squad and that this one was boring..

At last he said "What can you do to me? If French are not happy, Popovich will be glad to see me staying at San Antonio the upcoming summers".

I can totally understand how he's feeling and why he's feeling that way.
BUT he should have kept that to himself . Especially sine I've noticed in a few intervies that TP has a hard time saying things in an esitly digestable way.
why can't he just tell the press what they want to hear?? :oops \

oh well, he's young.

[ducks]

if your quarterback or point guard is not a little cokcy and confident you will not win period

[TOP-CHERRY]

if your quarterback or point guard is not a little cokcy and confident you will not win period
But Manu doesn't like being cocky.

:D

[ploto]

He's also questionning the trip to the mountains where players had to run
like crazy while most of them were tired after playing the whole season.


May explain his negative comment toward Slovenia. Did the French team go to Rogla to train?

[ploto]

Does anyone know if other players that play for their country (rasho) get special treament?

Not that I have ever heard- but the basketball cultures in some other countries have a longer history of seriousness and stricter regiments. There are curfews, etc...

[Slo spurs fan]

Maybe he's just afraid to face Slovenia and Beno? ;)

[50 cent]

Good for Tony. I would be pissed to if somebody was telling me I couldn't listen to music or talk on my cell phone, etc.

He is doing them a favor and not getting paid for it. I wish he would tell them to F off so he can get back here and start working out with the team. As he said in the translation, I'm sure Pop would be happy to have him here during summers. The French suck.

[kskonn]

yea I wish he would just come baqck and workout with the team.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

And here 1parker1 was saying I was some sort of French hater when I said TP should be staying at home instead of getting put through hell by the French coaching staff earlier this summer, and now it appears TP has come to the same conclusion.

'Nuff said.

[nkdlunch]

At least they don't have the horrible,terrible rule the Brazilian soccer team has: no sex 30 minutes before a game

[z0sa]

Uh, the way it seems to me is he's pissed he didn't get to rest because of some bullshit mountain trip and then some guy who doesn't even come along gets a spot where Parker wanted his buddy to be. I'd be pretty pissed too.

[whottt]

Hmmm...Parker has never been a malcontent or cancerous with the Spurs...he's never done anything except be a team player and do as his coach told him...



Parker is used to playing in a highly structured, rigid and authoritarian system under a very controlling coach...and he's used to getting absolutely blasted by his coach in front of 20 thousand people almost to the level of public humiliation...and Tony has never done anything but take it in stride and try to improve.


When I see comments like this coming from Parker it makes me think the problem is more with the French team than with Parker...I think the main thing that is pissing him off is the double standard...where a proven heartless sack of shit like Weiss gets a free pass that the rest of the team doesn't....

I stand with Tony on this one...I am giving him the benefit of the doubt that he probably knows more about winning than anyone else on his team, and that if he's bitching he's got very good reasons for doing it, IE he sees a dysfunctional system in place that is hurting morale...

Tony has earned that type of benefit and respect from Spursfans based on his conduct with our team the past 4 years...Yes his response is a little haughty, but not for a Frenchman IMO...and that doesn't mean his criticism is inaccurate.

[TOP-CHERRY]

^Damn straight.

[Bruno]

This article is BS.
The guy who wrote this (I can't call him a journalist) extracts some sentences of a TP interview and wrote a story around these sentences.
It's not journalism(sports.fr is just a web site like hoopsworld or realgm).

Tony has made an interview for his website :
http://www.tp9.net/fr/itw.php?id=99

Some extracts


The only problem, it is that through the interviews which I give, one interprets some of my remarks to make sulfurous papers of them.

This extract is really good news :


As envisaged, I feel better an better. I feel myself very well in this team, whether it is on or apart from the floor. The positive point, it is that my address at 3 points returns (8/16 on the last three matches)(the 3's line is at 21ft in Europe). Chip (Engelland) work starts to pay. I am more comfortable. The only problem, it is that I feel so good that sometimes I precipitate my shots. Now, it is necessary that I do the same with the free-throws. I am in progress but it is not sufficient. At least, I stopped bricks. It looks now like real free-throws.

[TwoHandJam]

As envisaged, I feel better an better. I feel myself very well in this team, whether it is on or apart from the floor. The positive point, it is that my address at 3 points returns (8/16 on the last three matches)(the 3's line is at 21ft in Europe). Chip (Engelland) work starts to pay. I am more comfortable. The only problem, it is that I feel so good that sometimes I precipitate my shots. Now, it is necessary that I do the same with the free-throws. I am in progress but it is not sufficient. At least, I stopped bricks. It looks now like real free-throws.

This is great news. If Tony's shot really is improving then the league had better watch out. TP having an outside shot that others need to honor is far and away better than any of our moves this summer.

TP + outside shot = unguardable.

[Marcus Bryant]

I could care less if TP is being a dick to the French national team. Fuck Spurs players playing in the summer with their national teams. I don't want to see TP, Manu, TD, or Beno sustain a major injury while not suited up for the Silver & Black. I also don't way to see them wear themselves out in the summer.

[Bruno]

This is great news. If Tony's shot really is improving then the league had better watch out. TP having an outside shot that others need to honor is far and away better than any of our moves this summer.

TP + outside shot = unguardable.

Something I can add about this :
I've seen some of his 3's on french TV and it looks better than before (even if I'm not a shoot doctor).

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I could care less if TP is being a dick to the French national team. Fuck Spurs players playing in the summer with their national teams. I don't want to see TP, Manu, TD, or Beno sustain a major injury while not suited up for the Silver & Black. I also don't way to see them wear themselves out in the summer.
LOL, Some people feel representing their country is one of the highest honors one can have. It matters not that you don't like it. IMO Manu is going to continue representing Argentina as long as he is able. I'm sure further on in his career he won't be able to sustain playing a whole season+Argentinian team, but for now, expect him to play every time he gets a chance. In fact, I'm almost sure he'll be playing in the world championship.

[Vashner]

Translated ..

He wants his baby doll back.. while she's in LA with darth vader.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Translated ..

He wants his baby doll back.. while she's in LA with darth vader.
:lmao

[Mixability]

In fact, I'm almost sure he'll be playing in the world championship.

they have no chance without him

[angel_luv]

Maybe he's just afraid to face Slovenia and Beno? ;)

Told!

High five, Slo!

But darn the time difference cause you beat me to it! = )

[1Parker1]

And here 1parker1 was saying I was some sort of French hater when I said TP should be staying at home instead of getting put through hell by the French coaching staff earlier this summer, and now it appears TP has come to the same conclusion.

'Nuff said.


:lmao AHF, where do you get this crap from? I think Tony would love to play for France, however, they clearly suck, he's obviously having some problems with the way the coaching staff and management is running the team, and it seems he's not happy with the team chemistry in general.

How the heck is that the same as what you said? You said that Parker should sit his ass at home all summer and not risk injury. I believe you were on the the bandwagon with other fans who thought that his first obligation was to the Spurs.

Either way, looks like you may be getting your wish.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

they have no chance without him
yeah, just like our Spurs don't have a chance without Timmy, what's your point?

[SequSpur]

Got damn foreigners.

[exstatic]

IMO Manu is going to continue representing Argentina as long as he is able. I'm sure further on in his career he won't be able to sustain playing a whole season+Argentinian team, but for now, expect him to play every time he gets a chance.

He already passed on the National team this summer.

With what he went through last season in SA, I'd be surprised if he played for them other than maybe next Olympics. The WCs mean zip. They already have an Olympic berth because they are the defending Gold medalists. Let the younger players start to get experience. They'll have to take over the team eventually, anyway.

[Vashner]

Eva was on entertainment tonight.. she's going to some awards with her "girlfriend" friend. They mentioned Tony was out of the country.

But they set it up in the opening as if it was something new "Let ET tell you who Eva's going to the awards with and not her boyfriend Tony Parker"...

[GoSpurs21]

Anyway, if he decides to not play, this is good for the Spurs. This is how I feel about Manu and Tim, neither should be playing in the summers

[Vashner]

TP has to play to keep on the French Squad for Bejing 08.

[gameFACE]

Maybe Tony is calling out his team to motivate or light a fire under them like Pop does when he says the Spurs play "soft" or like when he called out Rasho this past season. Well .............. one of those worked, anyway.

[TMTTRIO]

I understand that Tony is pissed off with the current situation going on with his team and I would be too, but sometimes I think he needs to stop talking to the press all the time about it. Brings back flashbacks of the jason kidd situation.



With what he went through last season in SA, I'd be surprised if he played for them other than maybe next Olympics. The WCs mean zip. They already have an Olympic berth because they are the defending Gold medalists. Let the younger players start to get experience. They'll have to take over the team eventually, anyway.

I thought I heard him say that he was taking this summer off and he was probably going to play in the World Championships next summer since that's the only thing he's missing now. I know he really wants to but I wish they all didn't play during the summers.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Tony's situation is quite different than Manu and Tim. If Tony doesn't play, France would need something close to a miracle to qualify to the World Championships or the Olympics. Even with him playing, France will need something close to an excellent tournament to qualify, (in theory) when you compare their squad with the big names like Spain, Serbia & Montenegro, Lithuania, even with second rate teams like Greece, Turkey, Italy, Slovenia or Russia.

So that's why Tony is playing in the qualifying tournament, without him France doesn't have a chance of playing any of the two major events.

[Admidave50]

France has just won 3 times in a row (Ukraine, Bulgaria, Turkey), only the Turkey win really counts haha

That's encouraging and TP did good with 20 pts and 7 ast.

Fred Weis will be on the french team, he sucks ass but France really needs him.
He's 2,17 m (a 7 footer, taller than Duncan I think) and he can help rebound, block and take some space.
He was called at the last minute because most of our forwards are hurt (Masingue, Turiaf) and Petro (Sonics rookie) prefered to work with the Sonics organization.

He wasn't supposed to be on the French team (that's why he didn't go to the Mountain Trip) but the team really needs him and he decides to accept the selection following the injury of Masingue, Digbeu wouldn't bring anything to the team anyway..

[Slo spurs fan]

Maybe he's just afraid to face Slovenia and Beno? ;)

Now it seems like Beno is afraid to face Tony... :oops :( :cry :depressed

[angel_luv]

Now it seems like Beno is afraid to face Tony... :oops :( :cry :depressed



No. = )

Beno is giving Tony a break.

[batman2883]

Beno is good but Tony probably broke Beno's ankles more than his fair share of times at practice

[50 cent]

Who gives a shit if France qualifies for the WCs or Olympics? I sure as hell don't.

Get your ass home Tony and join your real team.

[reader]

Tony did not play today vs Italy. Sorry, I had to use Babelfish for the translation, sounds as though he had a sore calf. France still won 83-75 with Diaw of the Suns and Rigaudeau formerly of the Mavs playing point.

"Spared Tony Parker and Mickaël Pietrus the leader of the French selection did not take part in the meeting vis-a-vis in Italy, just like his fellow-member Mickaël Pietrus. The two players were spared for EruoBasket which begins in three days. Tony Parker suffers from one diminishes with the right calf, which was confirmed by an echography Tuesday midday. The player who took part in the training sessions in Milan will carry out his return Thursday in Belgrade. On its side Mickaël Pietrus which was not spared since the beginning of the preparation, from a aponévrosite plantar left suffers. The winger of the "Warriors" should also take again the drive Thursday."

http://www.basketfrance.com/actu/actu.php?id=1896

[Slo spurs fan]

Who gives a shit if France qualifies for the WCs or Olympics? I sure as hell don't.

Get your ass home Tony and join your real team.

You think money can buy everythink? I will tell you, you can not buy national pride!

[Dex]

If someone told me I couldn't listen to music after the age of 12, I would step on their face. :smokin