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toki9
07-08-2015, 02:27 PM
Doc River the GM makes some interesting choices...

hater
07-08-2015, 02:28 PM
:lol old man Pierce Emoji Fail :lol

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"37-year-old Paul Pierce had a bit of trouble with his emoji and just tweeted a photo instead."

Aztecfan03
07-08-2015, 02:30 PM
he got less because Jordan signed
his contract isn't signed yet. Mavs would go back to giving him more.

BatManu20
07-08-2015, 02:30 PM
:lol

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:lol

BatManu20
07-08-2015, 02:31 PM
i feel bad for dirk, don't care about anyone else.

dabom
07-08-2015, 02:32 PM
:lol old man Pierce Emoji Fail :lol

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"37-year-old Paul Pierce had a bit of trouble with his emoji and just tweeted a photo instead."

Tears man. :lmao

Obstructed_View
07-08-2015, 02:33 PM
either it happened or it didn't happen. IF it happened, yes Boozer could be a liar(or someone who happened to get a better deal) Since NOBODY can prove it happened, to the rest of the world IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. Thus Boozer cannot even be suspected a liar.

So you can't prove it, but you're passing judgment about it, while you're saying that nobody has a right to an the opposite opinion for the exact same reason.




LOL anyone but Boozer. there are only 2 parties in this matter. Boozer and the Cavs. :lol "anyone but Boozer"
Do you fail to realize that a basketball team is not a single person? There were several people in the meeting with Boozer that all heard what he said. They all reported what he said. His own agent's actions prove that he went back on his word. Boozer came out and lied to the newspapers defending himself for lying to the Cavs in the first place.


His agent had a career and business with Cleveland, the owner and his friend owners. I'm pretty sure the agent was looking out for only one person. Himself.
That's an utter fabrication. His firm dropped Boozer as a client and he resigned from the agency before they made the money off Boozer's betrayal. They did it because they knew they'd never be able to negotiate with anyone in good faith again.


Therefore, since we can't prove the "under the table deal" happened between Boozer and Cavs. He had the right to pick the better deal. He did. And I'm pretty sure he doesn't regret. it.
Again, not an under the table deal because you can't prove that it was a violation. And yes, he had every right to lie to everyone involved to get a pay raise. He had every right to deceive the team he played for and to take a contract that even his fucking moneygrubbing agent was against. Doesn't make him less of a liar. I'm certain that he doesn't regret it at all, because he's a fucking lying scumbag.


BTW even Lebron was quoted as saying "Booze is my friend and I told him to do what's best for his family"
Actually the quote is "It's a business for us. He had to do what was best for his family," which is indicative of nothing.

Yuixafun
07-08-2015, 02:34 PM
Ethan J. SkolnickVerified account
‏@EthanJSkolnick This should end with DeAndre Jordan signing a one-year, minimum deal with the Spurs

Oh my gosh, that had my heart flutter at at the fancy lol

Clips and Mavs would be livid

Pop with a ..... GOT EM

dabom
07-08-2015, 02:34 PM
dumb joke.

I got the windows phone and shit is riddled with it :D ( I don't use em)

Windows phone brother out in the wild. :bobo

hater
07-08-2015, 02:35 PM
Windows phone brother out in the wild. :bobo

http://guesswhat.rugbyjones.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/My-brother-and-me-1.jpg

spursistan
07-08-2015, 02:37 PM
meh, not worried even if this mental midget returns to LAC..it took 3 our starters royally shitting the bed for that for them to win in last play Game 7 after being 2-3 down in the Series..They are not winning against us next time. But this will ensure the SW division will have at least one doormat team that you have high chance to go 4-0 against while the Dubs gets more competition in theirs..Regular season and seeding will be important for Spurs this go around..

dbestpro
07-08-2015, 02:39 PM
Mavs will win big bucks in court due to tort interference by Clippers after Jordan verbally agreed (does not have to signed) to sign with Mavs. Damages to the Mavs as a business are incurred by their inability to adequately compete in free agency. Both Jordan and the Clippers could face millions of dollars in damages.

BillMc
07-08-2015, 02:39 PM
At first..

http://cdn.nextimpulsesports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/mark.gif


Then...






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http://s3.amazonaws.com/br-cdn/temp_images/2014/03/24/c352c158efa3510ad690e45728a3d9c8.gif?1395678089

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ma3o1k4aZrU/UOs0Sn-_7II/AAAAAAAAFIU/Bc6kxH9sbMk/s1600/mark-cuban.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/QkViW0h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7Fp2owg.jpg

http://media.giphy.com/media/14wtGnIs3E7Nm/giphy.gif
:lol

-21-
07-08-2015, 02:40 PM
Mavs will win big bucks in court due to tort interference by Clippers after Jordan verbally agreed (does not have to signed) to sign with Mavs. Damages to the Mavs as a business are incurred by their inability to adequately compete in free agency. Both Jordan and the Clippers could face millions of dollars in damages.
Ballmer probably has it covered. Still, this shit is crazy and hilarious.

ceperez
07-08-2015, 02:41 PM
Emoji war!

http://www.businessinsider.com/clippers-mavericks-go-to-emoji-war-over-deandre-jordan-2015-7

Mr. Body
07-08-2015, 02:42 PM
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Shit, Ballmer should have stayed far away from this.

bklynspursfan
07-08-2015, 02:43 PM
Hawks/Cavs/Magic/Warriors have all joined the emoji war lol

Aztecfan03
07-08-2015, 02:43 PM
Ballmer probably has it covered. Still, this shit is crazy and hilarious.
He will just committing violations if he tries to pay any lawsuit against DJ.

bklynspursfan
07-08-2015, 02:44 PM
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kobyz
07-08-2015, 02:44 PM
meh, not worried even if this mental midget returns to LAC..it took 3 our starters royally shitting the bed for that for them to win in last play Game 7 after being 2-3 down in the Series..They are not winning against us next time. But this will ensure the SW division will have at least one doormat team that you have high chance to go 4-0 against while the Dubs gets more competition in theirs..Regular season and seeding will be important for Spurs this go around..
BS, spurs should be very worry if DJ go back to the clippers, we still have bad match up with them and they'll get better... Against the mavs should go 4-0 anyway...

Mr. Body
07-08-2015, 02:47 PM
Report: Lakers requesting a second meeting "to get it right this time."

Chinook
07-08-2015, 02:47 PM
this guy makes dwight look hard :lol

Guess it looks like an underaged girl then.

baseline bum
07-08-2015, 02:47 PM
With the precedent this starts, signing day can't come soon enough. (It's tomorrow isn't it?) Get LMA and West under contract ASAP.

Need to get the Atlanta deal done at 11:01PM tonight.

BatManu20
07-08-2015, 02:47 PM
Hawks/Cavs/Magic/Warriors have all joined the emoji war lol

Don't forget die hard clippers fan Billy Crystal :lol This shit is gold man

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TheGoldStandard
07-08-2015, 02:48 PM
Guess it looks like an underaged girl then.
http://i59.tinypic.com/dyx5i9.gif

baseline bum
07-08-2015, 02:48 PM
Damn this makes the West so much tougher, but at least it means Golden State will have some competition in their division.

spursistan
07-08-2015, 02:49 PM
BS, spurs should be very worry if DJ go back to the clippers, we still have bad match up with them and they'll get better... Against the mavs should go 4-0 anyway...

We don't, unless you think LMA will pull a Splitter/Bayness and shrivel compeletely..Plus, Pop isn't losing two straights series vs Doc Rivers, he coasted enough last year..

BatManu20
07-08-2015, 02:49 PM
That'll be awkward.

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BatManu20
07-08-2015, 02:50 PM
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BillMc
07-08-2015, 02:50 PM
Need to get the Atlanta deal done at 11:01PM tonight.

Really? Didn't know that. Thanks. Well, I trust Bud and RC/Pop to have little trouble ironing out the details.

baseline bum
07-08-2015, 02:50 PM
That'll be awkward.

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Yeah but he also promised to take their contract.

Mnky
07-08-2015, 02:51 PM
Lamarcus rips the clippers. He pulls Jordan away from the Rim, and Blake can't handle him down low. I don't think people realize yet how good of a player LA is.

BatManu20
07-08-2015, 02:51 PM
Broussard was on ESPN last night saying that apparently the Splitter deal to ATL has a couple hang-ups. Said it come down to the wire. I trust PATFO, but damn what a disaster that would be.

2centsworth
07-08-2015, 02:52 PM
Sucks for the Mavs, but do you want a player that doesn't want to be there? You can't rely on a player like that when the going gets tough. DJ will regret later when CP3 shits on him again.

baseline bum
07-08-2015, 02:52 PM
Really? Didn't know that. Thanks. Well, I trust Bud and RC/Pop to have little trouble ironing out the details.

I could be wrong, maybe trades can still officially happen right now. But it doesn't seem like this one i official yet.

BatManu20
07-08-2015, 02:53 PM
Perfect emoji response.

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dbestpro
07-08-2015, 02:53 PM
When the Lakers were told they could not sign Paul it also set about a precedent where the league can over turn a contractual agreement. In this instance it looks like the league could side with the Mavs and not allow the Clippers to resign Jordan and in particular to keep this from going to court.

BillMc
07-08-2015, 02:53 PM
Broussard was on ESPN last night saying that apparently the Splitter deal to ATL has a couple hang-ups. Said it come down to the wire. I trust PATFO, but damn what a disaster that would be.

Great. Now I have to on this site for the next 24 hours!!:lol

NASpurs
07-08-2015, 02:54 PM
Broussard was on ESPN last night saying that apparently the Splitter deal to ATL has a couple hang-ups. Said it come down to the wire. I trust PATFO, but damn what a disaster that would be.

Gotta wonder on which end the hang up is at....

2centsworth
07-08-2015, 02:54 PM
Broussard was on ESPN last night saying that apparently the Splitter deal to ATL has a couple hang-ups. Said it come down to the wire. I trust PATFO, but damn what a disaster that would be.
The one organization that won't screw the spurs is Atlanta

baseline bum
07-08-2015, 02:54 PM
Broussard was on ESPN last night saying that apparently the Splitter deal to ATL has a couple hang-ups. Said it come down to the wire. I trust PATFO, but damn what a disaster that would be.

Nothing on his twitter to suggest that.

BatManu20
07-08-2015, 02:55 PM
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buttsR4rebounding
07-08-2015, 02:55 PM
Paul: "DJ, come be my Blake..."

BillMc
07-08-2015, 02:55 PM
Gotta wonder on which end the hang up is at....

Bud seems to have leverage. This means more to us than Atlanta.

cd98
07-08-2015, 02:55 PM
When the Lakers were told they could not sign Paul it also set about a precedent where the league can over turn a contractual agreement. In this instance it looks like the league could side with the Mavs and not allow the Clippers to resign Jordan and in particular to keep this from going to court.

That was a little different. Didn't the league own the Pelicans at that time?

ceperez
07-08-2015, 02:56 PM
Broussard was on ESPN last night saying that apparently the Splitter deal to ATL has a couple hang-ups. Said it come down to the wire. I trust PATFO, but damn what a disaster that would be.

WTF?

BillMc
07-08-2015, 02:56 PM
Paul: "DJ, come be my Blake..."
:lol

I predict DJ is heavily involved in the O for the first month or so, then it fades back to normal.

NASpurs
07-08-2015, 02:57 PM
Bud seems to have leverage. This means more to us than Atlanta.

So is it down to the Spurs wanting something that Atlanta doesn't want to give up?

BatManu20
07-08-2015, 02:58 PM
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NASpurs
07-08-2015, 02:59 PM
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/07/37-year-old-paul-pierce-just-doesnt-understand-emojis

:lmao Paul Pierce

ElNono
07-08-2015, 02:59 PM
:monkey

BillMc
07-08-2015, 02:59 PM
So is it down to the Spurs wanting something that Atlanta doesn't want to give up?

No idea. Maybe we're looking for a bench warmer or pick to come with it?

Or maybe Bud wants us to throw in Bonner. Pop will never go for it... :lol

Aztecfan03
07-08-2015, 03:00 PM
So is it down to the Spurs wanting something that Atlanta doesn't want to give up?
hope so. As opposed to atlanta wanting draft picks or something. They are already getting splitter on a cheap deal.

ducks
07-08-2015, 03:01 PM
David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt · 29s29 seconds ago
League rules, though, are clear: teams and players can not enter into oral agreements during the moratorium. They can only discuss terms.

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt · 2m2 minutes ago
The bottom line is no agreement reached during the moratorium is binding until signed after the moratorium. Players can change their minds.

BlackSilver
07-08-2015, 03:01 PM
Bush league. Can't believe I would say this, but I might actually feel bad for Cuban.

ducks
07-08-2015, 03:02 PM
Marc Stein retweeted


Brad Townsend ‏@townbrad · 9m9 minutes ago
In hindsight, telling that Deandrejordan6 tweeted about U.S. Women's soccer team over the weekend. Not a peep about joining Mavs.

FlAVaK
07-08-2015, 03:03 PM
That was a little different. Didn't the league own the Pelicans at that time?

think they where still the hornets back then, but yes...

spursistan
07-08-2015, 03:04 PM
I know the Clips have no choice, but man all this kowtowing for a dumb mental weakling like he is modern day Wilt :lol

cd98
07-08-2015, 03:05 PM
So is it down to the Spurs wanting something that Atlanta doesn't want to give up?

Bud going back on that future 1st round pick he promised. Hey, if DeAndre can do it.

NASpurs
07-08-2015, 03:08 PM
I'm guessing we'll know tonight what the Spurs get from Atlanta since the trade needs to go through first to clear cap space, right?

dbestpro
07-08-2015, 03:08 PM
David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt · 29s29 seconds ago
League rules, though, are clear: teams and players can not enter into oral agreements during the moratorium. They can only discuss terms.

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt · 2m2 minutes ago
The bottom line is no agreement reached during the moratorium is binding until signed after the moratorium. Players can change their minds.

League rules do not circumvent state and federal laws. There is a clear effort of tort interference, which the mavs owner has already indicated he will pursue should this go the Clippers way. Jordan can still sign with the Clippers per league rules, but that does not preclude Jordan and the Clippers from having to pay damages.

gambit1990
07-08-2015, 03:09 PM
seems like he'll be a clipper.

BatManu20
07-08-2015, 03:09 PM
Broussard just reported that it was Deandre Jordan who reached out to the Clippers yesterday about having second thoughts...

ElNono
07-08-2015, 03:10 PM
tbh, I want Jordan on the Mavs.... I think it would work better for us

Aztecfan03
07-08-2015, 03:10 PM
I'm guessing we'll know tonight what the Spurs get from Atlanta since the trade needs to go through first to clear cap space, right?
trade needs to go through, then duncan needs to sign, then aldridge, then everyone else.

BillMc
07-08-2015, 03:12 PM
tbh, I want Jordan on the Mavs.... I think it would work better for us

I agree. But I bet he goes back to LA now. Not sure if the Mavs will even make the playoffs now.

baseline bum
07-08-2015, 03:12 PM
League rules do not circumvent state and federal laws. There is a clear effort of tort interference, which the mavs owner has already indicated he will pursue should this go the Clippers way. Jordan can still sign with the Clippers per league rules, but that does not preclude Jordan and the Clippers from having to pay damages.

Link on Cuban threatening lawsuits? That would be awesome.

Aztecfan03
07-08-2015, 03:12 PM
tbh, I want Jordan on the Mavs.... I think it would work better for us
same here. it would be nice to have a weaker team in our division and a stronger one with the warriors, but i'd rather just have less actual threats for the WCF.

NASpurs
07-08-2015, 03:13 PM
trade needs to go through, then duncan needs to sign, then aldridge, then everyone else.

Thanks man :tu

AFBlue
07-08-2015, 03:13 PM
:lol battling it out for a mental midget that will make them at-best the third place team in the west
:lol thinking Paul Pierce can put them over the top
:lol Blake not being able to handle sole big man duties
:lol CP3 trying to woo a player who hates him
:lol Doc needing this to prove he's not a failure as a GM...so bad his own player called him out

I could go on....:lol

baseline bum
07-08-2015, 03:14 PM
tbh, I want Jordan on the Mavs.... I think it would work better for us

It makes the west a little easier overall to have D on the Mavs, but it might give the Spurs a much better shot at homecourt if Dallas is a garbage team and the Clippers are there in Golden State's division.

cd98
07-08-2015, 03:17 PM
League rules do not circumvent state and federal laws. There is a clear effort of tort interference, which the mavs owner has already indicated he will pursue should this go the Clippers way. Jordan can still sign with the Clippers per league rules, but that does not preclude Jordan and the Clippers from having to pay damages.

I don't know if clubs waive rights for these type of lawsuits per NBA rules. I would guess the league would have mandatory arbitration as opposed to lawsuits. It's bad for overall business.

vy65
07-08-2015, 03:17 PM
League rules do not circumvent state and federal laws. There is a clear effort of tort interference, which the mavs owner has already indicated he will pursue should this go the Clippers way. Jordan can still sign with the Clippers per league rules, but that does not preclude Jordan and the Clippers from having to pay damages.

It'd be tortious interference with prospective contract, and what the clips are doing isn't independently tortious.

vy65
07-08-2015, 03:17 PM
I don't know if clubs waive rights for these type of lawsuits per NBA rules. I would guess the league would have mandatory arbitration as opposed to lawsuits. It's bad for overall business.

Also this

spursistan
07-08-2015, 03:18 PM
For Spurs fan antsy about this..Have you not watched how much shitty, tired and lacking in killer instinct that we would have to be for the Clippers to eke out Game 7 win against us?

Aztecfan03
07-08-2015, 03:19 PM
Thanks man :tu
oh and manu's rights waived before LMA signs if they havent already been.

ceperez
07-08-2015, 03:21 PM
League rules do not circumvent state and federal laws. There is a clear effort of tort interference, which the mavs owner has already indicated he will pursue should this go the Clippers way. Jordan can still sign with the Clippers per league rules, but that does not preclude Jordan and the Clippers from having to pay damages.

Clippers with a bush league play.

However, Jordan has every right to change his mind prior to any contract signing. Jordan is supposed to have made a 'gentleman's agreement' but he's to dumb to figure this one out.

kobyz
07-08-2015, 03:25 PM
We don't, unless you think LMA will pull a Splitter/Bayness and shrivel compeletely..Plus, Pop isn't losing two straights series vs Doc Rivers, he coasted enough last year..

Should stop with those coquettish sentences, it's stupid, if Pop lost title by not foul he can lose anything to anyone... We still have big problem defensively against them, LMA doesn't change that...

cd98
07-08-2015, 03:28 PM
League rules do not circumvent state and federal laws. There is a clear effort of tort interference, which the mavs owner has already indicated he will pursue should this go the Clippers way. Jordan can still sign with the Clippers per league rules, but that does not preclude Jordan and the Clippers from having to pay damages.

Besides, in free agency, it is inherent that you interfere with other clubs in trying to woo the player to sign with your club. And since league rules mandate you can't have agreements until July 9, then I just don't think there is any cause of action. IF there was, I'm sure the league requires all teams to sign waivers of lawsuits so as to keep everything in the league, but there is no cause of action for this. I'm sure, though, knowing Cuban, he will do what he can to get revenge, one way or another. He is in a pissing fight with the Rockets and now the Clippers. Popcorn.

Mikeanaro
07-08-2015, 03:31 PM
Novela Latina material I love it!
Doctor Rios= Andre Jordano please stay with us
Cristian Paulo= You are so special man I dont know why I treated you so bad.
Andre Jordano= Now Im engaged to Seņor Cubano, he treats me good and has mucho fortuna.
Seņor Cubano= Get out of my land you dont know who I am.
Doctor Rios has a weird complaining face...

will_spurs
07-08-2015, 03:33 PM
"Presumably"

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-mavericks/headlines/20150707-sefko-how-deandre-jordan-s-mother-played-key-role-in-steering-him-to-mavericks.ece

Andthentherewas21
07-08-2015, 03:34 PM
Probably isn't much Cuban can do other than to try and blackball the agent representing Jordan and try and do the same for any agent that tries to represent Jordan in the future.

2centsworth
07-08-2015, 03:36 PM
This all boils down to Deandre's belief in his own ability. If he thinks he's a centerpiece player, then Dallas is the place. If he thinks of himself as more of a complementary player, and then LA is the place. No one outside of Dallas believes Deandre is a franchise player, so most people are going to think DJ is going back to LA. I think he honors his commitment and tries to become "The Man" in Dallas. Plus, I think CP3 probably calls DJ a punk ass bitch or something like that making the decision a little easier.

timvp
07-08-2015, 03:36 PM
Lamond Murray pulled this exact same shit with the Spurs in 1999.

First thing I thought of :lol

Pop never spoke to Arn Tellem (Murray's agent) again.

(Damn, I just read that Tellem is now working in the Pistons front office. Don't expect any Spurs/Pistons trades any time soon.)

milkyway21
07-08-2015, 03:42 PM
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine · 2m2 minutes ago
Story going online now: ESPN sources say Clippers lobbying DeAndre Jordan to reverse his decision to join Dallas and stay in LA with Clips

Riskin breach of promise...

Did Chris Paul beg too?

Blake
07-08-2015, 03:44 PM
It'd be tortious interference with prospective contract, and what the clips are doing isn't independently tortious.

618826534967611392

seems pretty flimsy.

vy65
07-08-2015, 03:51 PM
618826534967611392

seems pretty flimsy.

Agreed.

To prevail on a claim for tortious interference with prospective business relations, the plaintiff must establish that (1) there was a reasonable probability that the plaintiff would have entered into a business relationship with a third party; (2) the defendant either acted with a conscious desire to prevent the relationship from occurring or knew the interference was certain or substantially certain to occur as a result of the conduct; (3) the defendant's conduct was independently tortious or unlawful; (4) the interference proximately caused the plaintiff injury; and (5) the plaintiff suffered actual damage or loss as a result.

Don't see how the Clippers have committed an independent tort by flying to meet with DJ. There's also an argument that there's no reasonable probability (#1) since he's still under the moratorium.

cd98
07-08-2015, 03:54 PM
First thing I thought of :lol

Pop never spoke to Arn Tellem (Murray's agent) again.

(Damn, I just read that Tellem is now working in the Pistons front office. Don't expect any Spurs/Pistons trades any time soon.)

Is he the idiot that overpaid Baynes?

milkyway21
07-08-2015, 03:54 PM
...[B] No one outside of Dallas believes Deandre is a franchise player, so most people are going to think DJ is going back toAldridge Duncan & Kawhi.hink he honors his commitment and tries to become "The Man" in Dallas. Plus, I think CP3 probably calls DJ a punk ass bitch or something like that making the decision a little easier.

Well, Cuban thinks DeAndre is comparable to Shaq. :rolleyes

And DeAndre said he's tired of CP3's constant barking, no worries Dallas..

Unless of course DAJordan had second thought about beating division rival SA now that West joined Aldridge,
Duncan & Kawhi

ducks
07-08-2015, 03:54 PM
David AldridgeVerified account
‏@daldridgetnt Mavs especially salty about this since they've lost out on guys w/whom they thought they had agreements, like JKidd in '13 (signed w/NY).

ducks
07-08-2015, 03:57 PM
https://twitter.com/HowardBeck/status/618877811143647233

Mikeanaro
07-08-2015, 03:58 PM
Derek Fisher ran from Dallas too.

will_spurs
07-08-2015, 04:00 PM
Agreed.

To prevail on a claim for tortious interference with prospective business relations, the plaintiff must establish that (1) there was a reasonable probability that the plaintiff would have entered into a business relationship with a third party; (2) the defendant either acted with a conscious desire to prevent the relationship from occurring or knew the interference was certain or substantially certain to occur as a result of the conduct; (3) the defendant's conduct was independently tortious or unlawful; (4) the interference proximately caused the plaintiff injury; and (5) the plaintiff suffered actual damage or loss as a result.

It's not about the Clippers, it's about DJ.

(1) Dallas would have chased somebody else
(2) change of mind = conscious desire
(3) that's where it becomes debatable, as DJ's behaviour could or could not be considered "tortious" [here it's important to note we don't know the full story yet]
(4) definitely caused Dallas injury
(5) actual damage real as other big men have already entered into agreements with other teams

cjw
07-08-2015, 04:01 PM
If I'm the Mavs, I'm livid. Jordan is weak, Clippers are breaking unwritten rules, etc.

Given there are no other FA out there I'd want to sign (could give Kanter an offer sheet I guess), I'd go nuclear and offer David West a one year max. Throw the whole league into flux.

People here are right. This will tarnish Clippers and DJ's agent and make nobody want to deal with them.

hater
07-08-2015, 04:01 PM
Dallas is like that girl cousin we all have. Cute but somehow always ends up used and dumped. :lol

aal04
07-08-2015, 04:02 PM
If it was ever a time to override someone for basketball reasons its this.

lmbebo
07-08-2015, 04:03 PM
If I'm the Mavs, I'm livid. Jordan is weak, Clippers are breaking unwritten rules, etc.

Given there are no other FA out there I'd want to sign (could give Kanter an offer sheet I guess), I'd go nuclear and offer David West a one year max. Throw the whole league into flux.

People here are right. This will tarnish Clippers and DJ's agent and make nobody want to deal with them.

Yes, abut apparently DJ's agent pushed DJ towards Dallas (shares agent with Parsons and Howard).

GoSpurs99
07-08-2015, 04:04 PM
Bush league. Can't believe I would say this, but I might actually feel bad for Cuban.

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/38983220.jpg

vy65
07-08-2015, 04:06 PM
It's not about the Clippers, it's about DJ.

(1) Dallas would have chased somebody else
(2) change of mind = conscious desire
(3) that's where it becomes debatable, as DJ's behaviour could or could not be considered "tortious" [here it's important to note we don't know the full story yet]
(4) definitely caused Dallas injury
(5) actual damage real as other big men have already entered into agreements with other teams

If it's about DJ, then there's no tortious interference. You can't tortiously interfere with your own contract. They'd have to prove breach, which they can't, because there's no contract.

vy65
07-08-2015, 04:07 PM
It's not about the Clippers, it's about DJ.

(1) Dallas would have chased somebody else
(2) change of mind = conscious desire
(3) that's where it becomes debatable, as DJ's behaviour could or could not be considered "tortious" [here it's important to note we don't know the full story yet]
(4) definitely caused Dallas injury
(5) actual damage real as other big men have already entered into agreements with other teams

You can try to make some sort of promissory estoppel type claim, but good luck proving reliance.

FlAVaK
07-08-2015, 04:09 PM
If it's about DJ, then there's no tortious interference. You can't tortiously interfere with your own contract. They'd have to prove breach, which they can't, because there's no contract.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/3c/a7/ff/3ca7ffee3f903320aae043b52ed00de9.jpg

vy65
07-08-2015, 04:11 PM
:lol

Mr. Body
07-08-2015, 04:12 PM
Cuban can finally hate someone more than he hates the Spurs.

The league will have to do something about this. That Ballmer isn't just involved but is flying down with them is not smart or good at all.

will_spurs
07-08-2015, 04:14 PM
If it's about DJ, then there's no tortious interference. You can't tortiously interfere with your own contract. They'd have to prove breach, which they can't, because there's no contract.

Fine. I wouldn't want to be on the bad side of a pissed-off Cuban, though ;)

Blake
07-08-2015, 04:14 PM
Cuban can finally hate someone more than he hates the Spurs.

The league will have to do something about this. That Ballmer isn't just involved but is flying down with them is not smart or good at all.

Neh, It's like college football imo.

Recruits give a verbal commitment to a school but flip at the last second on signing day, sometimes leaving a school scrambling to replace him or just flat high and dry.

hater
07-08-2015, 04:15 PM
618890029717450752

lol

ducks
07-08-2015, 04:15 PM
this will be addressed in the new cba

Spurminator
07-08-2015, 04:16 PM
618826534967611392

seems pretty flimsy.

*Torturous* if you're a Mavs fan tho, amirite? #highfive

Mr. Body
07-08-2015, 04:16 PM
Neh, It's like college football imo.

Recruits give a verbal commitment to a school but flip at the last second on signing day, sometimes leaving a school scrambling to replace him or just flat high and dry.

Except the magnitude is completely different and the league works much differently, then maybe you're correct.

Blake
07-08-2015, 04:19 PM
(4) definitely caused Dallas injury

how do you figure

ducks
07-08-2015, 04:20 PM
how do you figure

why sign Matthews if Jordon does not sign just tank
and dallas is looking stupid that Jordan is backing out

BatManu20
07-08-2015, 04:21 PM
Kobe being Kobe.

618890815054544896


618891109662593024


618892272663334912

ducks
07-08-2015, 04:21 PM
Jason QuickVerified account
‏@jwquick Wesley Matthews will sign with Dallas Thursday regardless of DeAndre Jordan's decision, source close to Matthews says http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2015/07/wesley_matthews_will_sign_with_dallas_on_thursday. html …

Blake
07-08-2015, 04:21 PM
Except the magnitude is completely different and the league works much differently, then maybe you're correct.

I think the principle of wooing a player to sign with your team over another is the same.

RD2191
07-08-2015, 04:22 PM
618892272663334912
:lmaowhat an insecure little bitch. gawd, kobe is such a queer.

Blake
07-08-2015, 04:23 PM
why sign Matthews if Jordon does not sign just tank
and dallas is looking stupid that Jordan is backing out


Jason QuickVerified account
‏@jwquick Wesley Matthews will sign with Dallas Thursday regardless of DeAndre Jordan's decision, source close to Matthews says http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2015/07/wesley_matthews_will_sign_with_dallas_on_thursday. html …

Thanks for answering your post for me

NASpurs
07-08-2015, 04:23 PM
618892272663334912

Faggot should had ended with a 48 :lol

ducks
07-08-2015, 04:24 PM
it was not a given Matthews would have signed with mavs after this

noles1983
07-08-2015, 04:25 PM
Neh, It's like college football imo.

Recruits give a verbal commitment to a school but flip at the last second on signing day, sometimes leaving a school scrambling to replace him or just flat high and dry.

your dealing with 17/18 year old kids. These are grown ass men who should have to honor their word

NASpurs
07-08-2015, 04:26 PM
618893602865983488

cd98
07-08-2015, 04:30 PM
618893602865983488

I take back everything I said about Aldridge while we were waiting for him to make a decision.

will_spurs
07-08-2015, 04:35 PM
how do you figure

Ok, "definitely" was a bit too... definitive. But Dallas could easily say they passed on other opportunities, couldn't/wouldn't investigate other big men options + some other players could decline to sign (apparently Matthews will). And obviously I'm not a million-dollar lawyer: I'm sure one of them can build a case that it definitely cost Dallas some competitive advantage, etc.

Blake
07-08-2015, 04:38 PM
your dealing with 17/18 year old kids. These are grown ass men who should have to honor their word

that's what written contracts are for

NASpurs
07-08-2015, 04:38 PM
618893602865983488

618896444842381312

618896724426231808

-21-
07-08-2015, 04:39 PM
I take back everything I said about Aldridge while we were waiting for him to make a decision.
:lmao

cd98
07-08-2015, 04:40 PM
Ok, "definitely" was a bit too... definitive. But Dallas could easily say they passed on other opportunities, couldn't/wouldn't investigate other big men options + some other players could decline to sign (apparently Matthews will). And obviously I'm not a million-dollar lawyer: I'm sure one of them can build a case that it definitely cost Dallas some competitive advantage, etc.

I just think that is the danger of free agency. A team can also walk away from a deal if something better comes around, theoretically. Sucks for Mavs if they lose out, but such is life in the world of sports.

NASpurs
07-08-2015, 04:40 PM
Broussard is such a faggot :lol

Blake
07-08-2015, 04:42 PM
Ok, "definitely" was a bit too... definitive. But Dallas could easily say they passed on other opportunities, couldn't/wouldn't investigate other big men options + some other players could decline to sign (apparently Matthews will). And obviously I'm not a million-dollar lawyer: I'm sure one of them can build a case that it definitely cost Dallas some competitive advantage, etc.

Eh, it's still a really flimsy lawsuit. If anything I think it's the NBA's rules they should be mad at. I don't think the Clippers are doing anything wrong.

Mr. Body
07-08-2015, 04:44 PM
I think the principle of wooing a player to sign with your team over another is the same.

The ramifications among league owners is not.

Aztecfan03
07-08-2015, 04:45 PM
why sign Matthews if Jordon does not sign just tank
and dallas is looking stupid that Jordan is backing out
they agreed with matthews first, so they would be just as bad as Jordan.

FlAVaK
07-08-2015, 04:45 PM
Broussard is such a faggot :lol

He has got the sauces, tbh.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3286/3936947947_12da70850c_z.jpg

cd98
07-08-2015, 04:48 PM
Eh, it's still a really flimsy lawsuit. If anything I think it's the NBA's rules they should be mad at. I don't think the Clippers are doing anything wrong.

To further clarify, they are not doing anything illegal. They are doing plenty wrong, like waiting until the day before the signing to have this meeting.

Mugen
07-08-2015, 04:51 PM
Just a real garbage precedent set by DeMonkey and the Clippers tbh. At least this will change the NBA Moratorium bullshit.

Blake
07-08-2015, 04:52 PM
The ramifications among league owners is not.

I think it is.

NASpurs
07-08-2015, 04:52 PM
He has got the sauces, tbh.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3286/3936947947_12da70850c_z.jpg

Pork Faggots? There's a Parker joke in there somewhere. :lol

Mr. Body
07-08-2015, 04:53 PM
To further clarify, they are not doing anything illegal. They are doing plenty wrong, like waiting until the day before the signing to have this meeting.

Not sure there will be a suit, but definitely the threat of one. Ballmer will have a lot to say and answer to during the owner's meetings. Also, he's going against Cuban, who has the animus to make a real thing out of this. There will be some internal penalties, I'd think.

Blake
07-08-2015, 04:54 PM
To further clarify, they are not doing anything illegal. They are doing plenty wrong, like waiting until the day before the signing to have this meeting.

If it's not illegal then "wrong" is subjective.

I think it's dumb though that they weren't courting Jordan this hard sooner

FlAVaK
07-08-2015, 04:54 PM
Kobe being Kobe.

618890815054544896


618891109662593024


618892272663334912

someone has to tweet this to kobe:

http://s3.postimg.org/mh0i2lrxe/uk_Jvt_Pb.jpg

ducks
07-08-2015, 04:55 PM
Not sure there will be a suit, but definitely the threat of one. Ballmer will have a lot to say and answer to during the owner's meetings. Also, he's going against Cuban, who has the animus to make a real thing out of this. There will be some internal penalties, I'd think.

new cba will address this BAD LOOPHOLE

szkorhetz
07-08-2015, 04:56 PM
I take back everything I said about Aldridge while we were waiting for him to make a decision.
he could just take back everything too, TBH.

RD2191
07-08-2015, 04:56 PM
He has got the sauces, tbh.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3286/3936947947_12da70850c_z.jpg
In before
RuffnReadyOzStyle meltdown because of faggot.

Timothy21
07-08-2015, 04:57 PM
Broussard is a clown

NASpurs
07-08-2015, 04:57 PM
618898995151147009

FlAVaK
07-08-2015, 04:57 PM
Pork Faggots? There's a Parker joke in there somewhere. :lol

:rollin

milkyway21
07-08-2015, 04:57 PM
I think Jordan should honor his word to Cuban. Plus game 7 in last year's playoffs still in my memory... Damn that ref & the overrated fascination of the Clippers esp Paul, let them suffer :p:

NASpurs
07-08-2015, 04:57 PM
In before
RuffnReadyOzStyle meltdown because of faggot.

Are you going to try some pork faggots?

RD2191
07-08-2015, 04:58 PM
Are you going to try some pork faggots?
I'm afraid to answer that question.

NASpurs
07-08-2015, 04:59 PM
I'm afraid to answer that question.

:lol

NASpurs
07-08-2015, 05:00 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Faggots-and-gravy.jpg/220px-Faggots-and-gravy.jpg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Faggots-and-gravy.jpg)

Faggots, gravy, mashed potatoes and marrowfat processed peas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marrowfat_peas)

RD2191
07-08-2015, 05:01 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Faggots-and-gravy.jpg/220px-Faggots-and-gravy.jpg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Faggots-and-gravy.jpg)
Faggots, gravy, mashed potatoes and marrowfat processed peas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marrowfat_peas)
That looks like one tasty faggot. Wait a minute...

FlAVaK
07-08-2015, 05:03 PM
I'm afraid to answer that question.

"you asked for it!"

dbestpro
07-08-2015, 05:05 PM
To further clarify, they are not doing anything illegal. They are doing plenty wrong, like waiting until the day before the signing to have this meeting.

The Mavs will pursue legal action through tortious interference. Texas is a state of tort law. Jordan and the Clippers will be subject to the courts of Texas. Cuban has already indicated that this is a possible legal action. While many verbal agreements might be dismissed the issue of how this disrupts the mavs business and the unique nature of the nba makes this a litigious issue. it does not mean the Mavs will win in court, but they have sufficient cause to bring this to a Texas court.

ducks
07-08-2015, 05:06 PM
Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard · 34s35 seconds ago
This is a soap opera. Meeting over, sources say, but LAC stalling, staying with DeAndre because they know Mark Cuban just landed n Houston.

FlAVaK
07-08-2015, 05:07 PM
OMG, itīs definitely Parker-related :wow

https://www.facebook.com/TastyMrBrains/photos/a.480135662059676.1073741825.431626580243918/895888100484428/?type=1&theater


Did you know that our delicious pork faggots are sometimes called "ducks" in the Midlands?

mbass
07-08-2015, 05:07 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4305310

7/5/2009 - NBA, Hedo Turkoglu +2 more

Free agents changing mind after verbal agreements not unprecedented:

Maybe not but verbal commitments should be honored - shows a lack of integrity.

FlAVaK
07-08-2015, 05:08 PM
sorry ducks

ducks
07-08-2015, 05:08 PM
The Mavs will pursue legal action through tortious interference. Texas is a state of tort law. Jordan and the Clippers will be subject to the courts of Texas. Cuban has already indicated that this is a possible legal action. While many verbal agreements might be dismissed the issue of how this disrupts the mavs business and the unique nature of the nba makes this a litigious issue. it does not mean the Mavs will win in court, but they have sufficient cause to bring this to a Texas court.
Good you break your word you deserve to pay
Cuban can sign him trade him or cut him or let him sit on the bench and rot

RD2191
07-08-2015, 05:08 PM
Man, I wish the mavs and clips were 50s street gangs and they both broke into a dance street fight to decide who keeps Deandre.

Obstructed_View
07-08-2015, 05:09 PM
Still the bush-league-ass Clippers.

ducks
07-08-2015, 05:09 PM
Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard · 2m2 minutes ago
Clippers stalling, trying to keep DeAndre away from meeting with Cuban

cd98
07-08-2015, 05:09 PM
The Mavs will pursue legal action through tortious interference. Texas is a state of tort law. Jordan and the Clippers will be subject to the courts of Texas. Cuban has already indicated that this is a possible legal action. While many verbal agreements might be dismissed the issue of how this disrupts the mavs business and the unique nature of the nba makes this a litigious issue. it does not mean the Mavs will win in court, but they have sufficient cause to bring this to a Texas court.

Honestly, it won't happen. You may be an attorney, I am one, and highly unlikely there is a lawsuit, and even if one was filed, probably not a viable claim. IMO, nothing actionable here.

soxxx
07-08-2015, 05:09 PM
I said this in the other thread but Deandre Jordan will be the most hated player in the NBA if this happens. Its fucked up as hell, you just dont screw with a franchise free agency period like this. I dont even see how his own union will support him after this if he does it.

He is really putting himself on his own island.

noles1983
07-08-2015, 05:10 PM
Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard · 2m2 minutes ago
Clippers stalling, trying to keep DeAndre away from meeting with Cuban

god damn, such bitches

cd98
07-08-2015, 05:10 PM
Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard · 2m2 minutes ago
Clippers stalling, trying to keep DeAndre away from meeting with Cuban

So they are done talking, but Clippers won't leave. Awkward.

ducks
07-08-2015, 05:12 PM
time for Cuban to start his meeting with clippers PRESENT

Cuban and clippers owner would go at it
Cuban would destroy him

milkyway21
07-08-2015, 05:12 PM
NBA A.K.A.Silver should intervene.

Or next year's FA will be in chaos >FA will agree to team's terms then, would back out before contract signing..when almost available FA on the market already signed somewhere else..
This is just so unethical to profession of being an honorable basketball player in the league.

ducks
07-08-2015, 05:15 PM
NBA A.K.A.Silver should intervene.

Or next year's FA will be in chaos >FA will agree to team's terms then, would back out before contract signing..when almost available FA on the market already signed somewhere else..
This is just so unethical to profession of being an honorable basketball player in the league.

Mr. Body
07-08-2015, 05:15 PM
I'm guessing draft pick(s) and cash compensation as penalty should Jordan go back. League integrity is a big deal.

noles1983
07-08-2015, 05:16 PM
i would pay to see cuban punch that fat faggot turtle looking balmer right in the face

cd98
07-08-2015, 05:18 PM
time for Cuban to start his meeting with clippers PRESENT

Cuban and clippers owner would go at it
Cuban would destroy him

Best case scenario.

hater
07-08-2015, 05:19 PM
Is deandre really a monkey?

Holy shit

cd98
07-08-2015, 05:20 PM
i would pay to see cuban punch that fat faggot turtle looking balmer right in the face

This is the catch. I can't tell which owner I would like to see fail. Either would be entertaining.

ducks
07-08-2015, 05:22 PM
clippers have bad bad owners imo
if clipper owner was a man of intergretiy he would call doc and tell him to move on
but he has none he worked with bill gates

will_spurs
07-08-2015, 05:22 PM
Eh, it's still a really flimsy lawsuit. If anything I think it's the NBA's rules they should be mad at. I don't think the Clippers are doing anything wrong.

A flimsy lawsuit is still a lawsuit. I'm sure the NBA wants to avoid going down that road at all costs: a) because nobody knows what will come out of it and b) because of the bad publicity.

The other part is that I'm sure Cuban will push hard to have some rules changed about this. Also something Silver should be wary of.

All in all after the Donald Sterling fiasco I'm quite sure the Clippers are on a very short leash. And if it had been only players then it's between themselves. But Ballmer flying out to join the recruiting effort is a bad move.

ThaBigFundamental21
07-08-2015, 05:23 PM
Grimy to the fullest. Clippers ownership is garbage. I can't wait for revenge. I wonder what Silver has to say on the subject.

Spurtacular
07-08-2015, 05:23 PM
If this somehow works, the odds of a second round Clips-Dubs match-up is increased. Could be good to see the Dubs erased by the Clips; and the Spurs then get their revenge against the Clips in a conference finals. Of course, all of that hinges on Spurs getting HCA and whatever the Thunder do this season.

RD2191
07-08-2015, 05:23 PM
Cuban would have a minor meltdown if he loses DJ. Balmer would be devastated but I don't think he would go off on anybody like Cuban would.

BillMc
07-08-2015, 05:26 PM
Man, I wish the mavs and clips were 50s street gangs and they both broke into a dance street fight to decide who keeps Deandre.
:lmao

hater
07-08-2015, 05:27 PM
Cuban should just tweet a pic of the contract signed with an X. I'm sure that's deandres signature.

BatManu20
07-08-2015, 05:28 PM
:lol Deandre's a die hard Cowboys fan too

618908483010756608

RD2191
07-08-2015, 05:30 PM
Romo quit being a faggot.

Mikeanaro
07-08-2015, 05:32 PM
Everybody wants a piece of dat ass.

Blake
07-08-2015, 05:39 PM
A flimsy lawsuit is still a lawsuit.

If it's that flimsy there's no point in pursuing it

hater
07-08-2015, 05:40 PM
If it's that flimsy there's no point in pursuing it

Lawyers pursue flimsier shit daily. For the $

Blake
07-08-2015, 05:41 PM
Lawyers pursue flimsier shit daily. For the $

Actually they avoid flimsy shit because it costs $ and time.

vy65
07-08-2015, 05:43 PM
If it's that flimsy there's no point in pursuing it

Yes and no. There's always a nuisance value to a lawsuit that has strategic benefits, which is what I think he's getting at.

However, the lawyer bringing the claim has to have a good faith basis for doing so, otherwise, he and his client could be sanctioned.

This claim is really bad, but I dunno if its sanctionable.

Brazil
07-08-2015, 05:43 PM
need a cliff note on why this thread is 15 pages and counting

pls

picnroll
07-08-2015, 05:50 PM
Other owners should unite and let Ballmer know he'll never see another trade no matter what the offers. This kind of action will totally screw up teams putting together their personnel in the off season.

Ron Swanson
07-08-2015, 05:50 PM
need a cliff note on why this thread is 15 pages and counting

pls

DeAndre Jordan is more indecisive than a teenage girl and the Clippers are shady as fuck.

Spurfan4ever20
07-08-2015, 05:53 PM
Saw this on Twitter. Cuban simply won't let it go (Spurs 1999 Pick)


Here is what Cuban said on what would happen if they missed out on Jordan last week http://www.mavsoutsider.com/2015/07/06/quote-board-mark-cuban-on-the-ticket/ http://twitter.com/BallinWithBryan/status/618860533446393856/photo/1

Blake
07-08-2015, 05:55 PM
Yes and no. There's always a nuisance value to a lawsuit that has strategic benefits, which is what I think he's getting at.

However, the lawyer bringing the claim has to have a good faith basis for doing so, otherwise, he and his client could be sanctioned.

This claim is really bad, but I dunno if its sanctionable.

I don't see any nuisance value here because I don't see the NBA changing their rules much if at all.

Dancelot
07-08-2015, 05:57 PM
Man, I wish the mavs and clips were 50s street gangs and they both broke into a dance street fight to decide who keeps Deandre.
That'd be fuckin' sick! :lol I seem to remember a SNL skit with Will ferrell and norm McDonald kinda like that.

daslicer
07-08-2015, 06:01 PM
Cuban would have a minor meltdown if he loses DJ. Balmer would be devastated but I don't think he would go off on anybody like Cuban would.

Balmer is a psycho you clearly do not know about this man's business history. This is the same guy who went crazy after Google stole a top Microsoft employee from him. After he found out his top guy was stolen he went on a rampage broke a bunch of stuff in his office and then made a bunch of nasty threats against google that was recording on tape. Balmer has a history of having crazy outburst go google him and you will find them. Balmer is a dumbass he's only successful due to being one of Bill Gate's close friends.

vy65
07-08-2015, 06:03 PM
I don't see any nuisance value here because I don't see the NBA changing their rules much if at all.

attorney's fees

RD2191
07-08-2015, 06:03 PM
Balmer is a psycho you clearly do not know about this man's business history. This is the same guy who went crazy after Google stole a top Microsoft employee from him. After he found out his top guy was stolen he went on a rampage broke a bunch of stuff in his office and then made a bunch of nasty threats against google that was recording on tape. Balmer has a history of having crazy outburst go google him and you will find them. Balmer is a dumbass he's only successful due to being one of Bill Gate's close friends.
Well damn, this is going to be great either way then.:lol

jag
07-08-2015, 06:06 PM
Actually they avoid flimsy shit because it costs $ and time.

Um...who do you think gets paid regardless of the outcome?

Blake
07-08-2015, 06:26 PM
attorney's fees

Well sure. What's the strategic value though.

BatManu20
07-08-2015, 06:27 PM
He's stayin.

618924033816444928

Obstructed_View
07-08-2015, 06:27 PM
need a cliff note on why this thread is 15 pages and counting

pls

This is an NBA team forum. A player agreed to a max contract several days ago, and now his old team is trying to get him to renege on that agreement. I'm unsure how any NBA fan can't see what a big fucking deal this is.

vy65
07-08-2015, 06:28 PM
Well sure. What's the strategic value though.


Yes and no. There's always a nuisance value to a lawsuit that has strategic benefits, which is what I think he's getting at.


I don't see any nuisance value here because I don't see the NBA changing their rules much if at all.

ducks
07-08-2015, 06:28 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA · 2m2 minutes ago
Yahoo Sources: Clippers meet with DeAndre Jordan, believe they're on cusp of convincing him to return. http://yhoo.it/1HNojtR

NASpurs
07-08-2015, 06:28 PM
He's stayin.

618924033816444928

:lol Mavs

Blake
07-08-2015, 06:29 PM
Um...who do you think gets paid regardless of the outcome?

Beh. I meant for Cuban. I'm betting Cuban has attorney (s) getting paid 24/7 whether they go to court or not.

Obstructed_View
07-08-2015, 06:30 PM
If they change a rule, chances are it will be that the moratorium will stay, but when a team and a player agree prior to the end, then they both waive the moratorium and sign the deal right away.

NASpurs
07-08-2015, 06:30 PM
Can Pop bitch about this like he did with the CP3 trade? Can't hurt to try. :lol

BatManu20
07-08-2015, 06:32 PM
That really sucks for the Mavs, tbh :lol

vy65
07-08-2015, 06:32 PM
Well sure. What's the strategic value though.

The strategic value is making somebody reconsider a decision because they don't want to deal with a lawsuit.

Blake
07-08-2015, 06:33 PM
Yes and no. There's always a nuisance value to a lawsuit that has strategic benefits, which is what I think he's getting at.


god damn it's annoying discussing things with you because I have to repeat myself and/or remind you what you just wrote.

You said "strategic benefits". What are the potential "strategic benefits" here by pursuing this lawsuit.

Venti Quattro
07-08-2015, 06:33 PM
Nobody deserves the ignoniminy of being promised a verbal commitment only to be scorned at the last minute.

That being said, the rules on NBA contracts allow for this kind of thing and it is something that must be fixed if we want to avoid another The Begging and The Stalling.

This shit is disgusting, bitch-made stuff from the Clippers but it's right up their alley. It's only befitting behavior for a team full of cunts.

Hoops Czar
07-08-2015, 06:34 PM
If they change a rule, chances are it will be that the moratorium will stay, but when a team and a player agree prior to the end, then they both waive the moratorium and sign the deal right away.

There shouldn't be moratorium. Free agency should begin on the 1st of July. When a player agrees to terms, he signs the contract.

vy65
07-08-2015, 06:35 PM
god damn it's annoying discussing things with you because I have to repeat myself and/or remind you what you just wrote.

You said "strategic benefits". What are the potential "strategic benefits" here by pursuing this lawsuit.


The strategic value is making somebody reconsider a decision because they don't want to deal with a lawsuit.

Mugen
07-08-2015, 06:35 PM
:lol smart for Deandre, he's never getting another contract from any other team after today so might as well get that extra year with the Clipps tbh

Aztecfan03
07-08-2015, 06:36 PM
If they change a rule, chances are it will be that the moratorium will stay, but when a team and a player agree prior to the end, then they both waive the moratorium and sign the deal right away.

that would be the same thing as getting rid of the moratorium.

Blake
07-08-2015, 06:37 PM
The strategic value is making somebody reconsider a decision because they don't want to deal with a lawsuit.

in this case there's nothing to reconsider. Cuban wouldn't file until after the contract is signed. And if the contract is signed, what is there for the Clippers to reconsider?

pjjrfan
07-08-2015, 06:37 PM
This may become a trend, it's not illegal, the Players have that option and it's a card that I'm surprised has not been played before, on the other hand, Maybe Jordan realized that the Mavs aren't going anywhere but down even with him in the lineup.

mbass
07-08-2015, 06:37 PM
This is an NBA team forum. A player agreed to a max contract several days ago, and now his old team is trying to get him to renege on that agreement. I'm unsure how any NBA fan can't see what a big fucking deal this is.

It's a huge deal, especially for the Mavs - they have planned their whole team around Jordan and now he's coming across as having a big lack of integrity problem - his word is worthless.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
07-08-2015, 06:37 PM
Hope he picks the Mavs... LAC being LAC..

cd98
07-08-2015, 06:39 PM
DeAndre is so mentally weak, this probably destroys his focus for the rest of the year. He seems to be the kind of person that bows to the pressure of living up to a big contract.

Brazil
07-08-2015, 06:39 PM
This is an NBA team forum. A player agreed to a max contract several days ago, and now his old team is trying to get him to renege on that agreement. I'm unsure how any NBA fan can't see what a big fucking deal this is.

Thanks

admiralsnackbar
07-08-2015, 06:40 PM
god damn it's annoying discussing things with you because I have to repeat myself and/or remind you what you just wrote. You said "strategic benefits". What are the potential "strategic benefits" here by pursuing this lawsuit. Lawsuits don't count against the cap! :lol (only half-kidding, really)

ducks
07-08-2015, 06:40 PM
This DeAndre thing has inspired me. I've now started lobbying Aldridge to back out of his deal with us and head back to Portland. Did you guys really think I was about to give up all those shots without a fight?

stupid ass bitch troll

Seventyniner
07-08-2015, 06:41 PM
Instead of ending the moratorium, just come up with a system that rewards players for sticking to verbal agreements and punishes them for backing out. Something like 2% of the contract's value paid to the player by the league (doesn't count against the cap) for a verbal agreement they stick to, and a 2% penalty (the full salary still counts against the cap) if they back out of a verbal agreement.

The point of the moratorium is that the cap isn't set, so you can't put specific dollar amounts on contracts yet. A percentage penalty gets around that.

I guess "verbal" agreements would have to be signed and faxed to the league, though.

vy65
07-08-2015, 06:42 PM
in this case there's nothing to reconsider. Cuban wouldn't file until after the contract is signed. And if the contract is signed, what is there for the Clippers to reconsider?

I was speaking generally, not specifically about the DJ situation. But if Cuban were deadset on litigation (which I'm almost positive he's not and no lawsuit will or should be filed), he could file a TRO.

cd98
07-08-2015, 06:44 PM
11:00 in Houston is going to be interesting. There's still time to hop in the car and drive there to see Clips and Mavs hand him a contract and watch him flip out. I hope someone gets it on video.

ducks
07-08-2015, 06:45 PM
be funny if the contract had suns on it and he signed it
monkeyball is that stupid

milkyway21
07-08-2015, 06:46 PM
Kobe according to reports/ Kristin Ludlow, said there's an emoji battle (lol) between L.A. Clippers (ex) teammates of Jordan just to convince him to stay put in Lala land...
Hilarious :lmao

ducks
07-08-2015, 06:47 PM
This may become a trend, it's not illegal, the Players have that option and it's a card that I'm surprised has not been played before, on the other hand, Maybe Jordan realized that the Mavs aren't going anywhere but down even with him in the lineup.

it will NOT be the trend jordans agent is DONE in the nba

cd98
07-08-2015, 06:49 PM
I was speaking generally, not specifically about the DJ situation. But if Cuban were deadset on litigation (which I'm almost positive he's not and no lawsuit will or should be filed), he could file a TRO.

Enough with the lawsuits. Cuban isn't suing. There is no case. Everyone is making a play for prized free agents and since no one can officially sign until 11pm, any player has time to change his mind until he signs. Clippers may be trashing on unwritten rules of conduct, but they aren't violating the law. Torts like interference w a contract are unheard of in sports.

ducks
07-08-2015, 06:49 PM
no endorsements for this scum bag

NBAFan
07-08-2015, 06:51 PM
Clippers, Jordan meeting over




The meeting has ended, according to ESPN's Chris Broussard. Chris Paul was emotional during the meeting, a source in the room told Broussard. Paul told Jordan he had no idea he felt negatively about him and that he thought they were "brothers." He said he'd work to get Jordan more involved in the offense and that the Clippers couldn't move forward without him.

Mugen
07-08-2015, 06:52 PM
:lol All this drama for a nigga who can't shoot and a 2nd round exit.

Venti Quattro
07-08-2015, 06:53 PM
Clippers, Jordan meeting over


Chris Paul was emotional during the meeting

:cry I'm sorry for criticizing your freethrow shooting, DeAndre :cry

:lmao :lmao :lmao

cd98
07-08-2015, 06:53 PM
Clippers, Jordan meeting over

Sounds like an ad for a new Lifetime show. Could the Clippers look more soft? How did we lose to these sissies?

NASpurs
07-08-2015, 06:54 PM
:cry I'm sorry for criticizing your freethrow shooting, DeAndre :cry

:lmao :lmao :lmao

:cry You can ride the banana boat next time :cry

spurspokesman
07-08-2015, 06:55 PM
Can't wait for Mark Cubans tirade in the event he changes his mind lol

ducks
07-08-2015, 06:55 PM
Clippers, Jordan meeting over






The meeting has ended, according to ESPN's Chris Broussard. Chris Paul was emotional during the meeting, a source in the room told Broussard. Paul told Jordan he had no idea he felt negatively about him and that he thought they were "brothers." He said he'd work to get Jordan more involved in the offense and that the Clippers couldn't move forward without him.




if cp3 did not know he felt that way he is by far the worse point guard out there
also why did moneyball not talk to doc about more touches

Venti Quattro
07-08-2015, 06:56 PM
Kobe according to reports/ Kristin Ludlow, said there's an emoji battle (lol) between L.A. Clippers (ex) teammates of Jordan just to convince him to stay put in Lala land...
Hilarious :lmao
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618892272663334912
:lol crofl Kobe

Clipper Nation
07-08-2015, 06:57 PM
Clippers, Jordan meeting over






The meeting has ended, according to ESPN's Chris Broussard. Chris Paul was emotional during the meeting, a source in the room told Broussard. Paul told Jordan he had no idea he felt negatively about him and that he thought they were "brothers." He said he'd work to get Jordan more involved in the offense and that the Clippers couldn't move forward without him.




if cp3 did not know he felt that way he is by far the worse point guard out there
also why did moneyball not talk to doc about more touches
It's Broussard. We can safely assume that CP3 knew, was unemotional in the meeting and told him to sign with Dallas.

KaiRMD1
07-08-2015, 06:58 PM
LA, the land of begging

SpursFan86
07-08-2015, 06:59 PM
http://i.imgur.com/kqZ7WL3.gif

:lmao

AFBlue
07-08-2015, 06:59 PM
:lol All this drama for a nigga who can't shoot and a 2nd round exit.

Exactly.

milkyway21
07-08-2015, 06:59 PM
no endorsements for this scum bag

Yeah. Who wants to sit down for future deal with him with his integrity now NOT intact..he's like a fickle-minded woman.

NASpurs
07-08-2015, 06:59 PM
http://i.imgur.com/kqZ7WL3.gif

:lmao


:lmao :lmao :lmao

ducks
07-08-2015, 06:59 PM
David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt · 2m2 minutes ago
Hearing from someone who knows DeAndre Jordan well that he still plans to meet with the Mavs tonight after seeing the Clips today.

TD 21
07-08-2015, 07:01 PM
The desperation on the Clippers part is logical. It's not that he's prime Howard, it's that they have no means with which to adequately replace him. On top of that, Paul's prime is running on fumes, so they're running out of time to win a championship.

This won't quite make them a legit contender, but it will decide whether they remain in their perpetual state of fringe contender or fall firmly into the second tier.

AFBlue
07-08-2015, 07:01 PM
Sounds like an ad for a new Lifetime show. Could the Clippers look more soft? How did we lose to these sissies?

On a last second prayer shot on the road with a hobbled starting PG and C. It was not the Spurs' year. But it will be rectified....whether they have Jordan or not.

milkyway21
07-08-2015, 07:01 PM
618890815054544896
618892272663334912
:lol crofl Kobe


Thanks for posting ...lol

Wish U included CP3's 'banana boat' emoji. :D

Mr. Body
07-08-2015, 07:02 PM
I'll be kind of happy to see the Clips choke another second round away next season.

AFBlue
07-08-2015, 07:02 PM
http://i.imgur.com/kqZ7WL3.gif

:lmao

:lol

milkyway21
07-08-2015, 07:02 PM
http://i.imgur.com/kqZ7WL3.gif

:lmao

:lmao. OMG MY STOMACH HURTS LOL