Bush steps up to the plate unlike his supporters

[MannyIsGod]

BREAKING NEWS

President Bush says he takes responsibility for the federal government's failures in responding to Hurricane Katrina. Details soon.

[Marcus Bryant]

The obvious course politically. Bush makes an apology to the nation. All but the 30% or so who patently hate him will forget about blaming him within 2 weeks.

[spurster]

Good for Bush. He's been talking with Blanco and Nagin and got an earful, I bet.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Katrina-Washington.html

September 13, 2005
Bush Takes Responsibility for Failures in Storm Response
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 12:05 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush said Tuesday that ''I take responsibility'' for failures in dealing with Hurricane Katrina and said the disaster raised broader questions about the government's ability to respond to natural disasters as well as terror attacks.

''Katrina exposed serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government,'' Bush said at joint White House news conference with the president of Iraq.

''To the extent the federal government didn't fully do it's job right, I take responsibility,'' Bush said.

The president was asked whether people should be worried about the government's ability to handle another terrorist attack given failures in responding to Katrina.

[MannyIsGod]

No shit it's political. Anything he does/says is political. The point is that he's admiting there are issues that need to be resolved.

Now, do I have faith in our government to streamline a beaucracy into an effective responder? I'm not going to hold my breath on that one.

[CharlieMac]

Hey, lying then asking for forgiveness worked for another president.

[SpursWoman]

He's been talking with Blanco and Nagin and got an earful, I bet.


That'd kind of be like a pot/kettle thing, don't you think? They should probably be the last 2 people on the planet telling anyone a damn thing. :fro

[CharlieMac]

I'm looking forward to the headline at Drudge. "Im Sorry" in huge letters underneaath Bush making a sad face. Gotta love Drudge.

[JoeChalupa]

Great move, political or other wise.

Good call Rove.

Kudos to the President.

[MannyIsGod]

I don't think this was a Rove move at all. I think this was George Bush being himself. I don't agree with him on much at all, but he comes across as a man with whom a handshake means something.

[Spurminator]

It had to be done. PR-move or not, the country is angry and divided right now. We can have months of Republican-President-and-Supporters vs. Democratic-Governor-and-Supporters or each party can take responsibility for their failings and work to improve future disaster plans.

[CharlieMac]

I don't think this was a Rove move at all. I think this was George Bush being himself. I don't agree with him on much at all, but he comes across as a man with whom a handshake means something.

Same here. I think Rove is in a time-out after not advising Bush to ditch the vacation sooner than he did.

[Jelly]

Good for Bush. He's been talking with Blanco and Nagin and got an earful, I bet.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Katrina-Washington.html

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Nagin and Blanco have no room to talk, but yes they have done their share of bitching.

Now those two clowns need to admit their own failures in this debacle. I doubt that will ever happen though.

[Vashner]

Nagin bugged out to Dallas lol..

Why didn't he setup shop in Baton Rouge?

Seems to me living in Dallas would not help getting N.O. back up to snuff...

EDIT: Yea Bush glad he stepped up ... I think his failure was appointing Brownie.... but he's on the game now.

[Nbadan]

And the sheepel will follow.

Only political novices would think that this wasn't a Karl Rove move. Have the President accept responsibility, but don't get into too many specifics, there's enough blame to go around. We've muddied the water enough through out media shills. Nevermind that the administration has been patting itself on the back for it's prompt hurricane reaction as recently as yesterday. (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/12.html#a4927)


President Bush was very happy with himself today as he told reporters that he had pre-signed emergency declarations in anticipation of the big storm coming.

Bush: "Which is by the way, extraordinary."

http://www.crooksandliars.com/images/2005/09/12/Bush-Katrina1.jpg

[Marcus Bryant]

No shit it's political. Anything he does/says is political. The point is that he's admiting there are issues that need to be resolved.


So he's taking the obvious political course. Big deal.




Now, do I have faith in our government to streamline a beaucracy into an effective responder? I'm not going to hold my breath on that one.

Welcome to my POV.

[MannyIsGod]

Well, there have been dozens of times when people fail to take the best obvious course.

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao @ welcome to my POV. Yes, ever the pioneer, Marcus.

[whottt]

More effective than the State and Local Govs of LA? It already is.

[JoeChalupa]

I'd bet money that he ran this past Rove.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

But that's just me.

[whottt]

I think it's ironic that Manny elects to rip Bush supporters for supporting a guy that he thinks just did something praiseworthy...Shouldn't you be calling out those that think Bush is evil incarnate? It's they who need to be doing the admitting they were wrong...

I don't think Bush supporters support him under the belief that he won't step up to the plate....

[Hook Dem]

And the sheepel will follow.

Only political novices would think that this wasn't a Karl Rove move. Have the President accept responsibility, but don't get into too many specifics, there's enough blame to go around. We've muddied the water enough through out media shills. Nevermind that the administration has been patting itself on the back for it's prompt hurricane reaction as recently as yesterday. (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/12.html#a4927)



http://www.crooksandliars.com/images/2005/09/12/Bush-Katrina1.jpg
WOW! Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Way to go Dan. What would please you......Bush's death????? Don't answer you loser!

[MiNuS]

wow! He takes blame for a hurricane catastrophy but doesn't accept fucking up for invading Iraq a country with NO WMD'S? After he and his mignons fed the country of WMDs? 1900 and counting,Mr President.

[whottt]

wow! He takes blame for a hurricane catastrophy
RIF


Just what the board needs...another guy who learned about politics and history from left wing blogs. Fucking Great. Insight like that is scarce around these parts.

[MiNuS]

RIF


Just what the board needs...another guy who learned about politics and history from left wing blogs. Fucking Great. Insight like that is scarce around these parts.
fuck you,whott!

[SpursWoman]

RIF



Funny....I just saw for the very first time another internet acronym:



ROTFLBTCASTC


Rolling On The Floor Laughing Biting The Carpet And Scaring the Cat

[JoeChalupa]

RIF


Just what the board needs...another guy who learned about politics and history from left wing blogs. Fucking Great. Insight like that is scarce around these parts.

Oh, come on now. You know as well as I do that there are plenty of right-wingers who get their political info from Sean and Rush.

Be a man like Bush and admit it.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I don't agree with him on much at all, but he comes across as a man with whom a handshake means something.

Couldn't have said it better Manny :tu

BTW, I have felt since the beginning he would step up and accept responsibility. Seemed like the God fearing Texan thing to do.

Now watch the demos try to pile on, like the rats they are.

[MiNuS]

Oh, come on now. You know as well as I do that there are plenty of right-wingers who get their political info from Sean and Rush.

Be a man like Bush and admit it.
Today is a good day for all Republi-cons to come out of the closet and admit what they are!

[JoeChalupa]

Couldn't have said it better Manny :tu

BTW, I have felt since the beginning he would step up and accept responsibility. Seemed like the God fearing Texan thing to do.

Now watch the demos try to pile on, like the rats they are.

Just like the republicans do?

Works both ways and that is a FACT!

[Hook Dem]

Today is a good day for all Republi-cons to come out of the closet and admit what they are!
That works both ways also!

[whottt]

Oh, come on now. You know as well as I do that there are plenty of right-wingers who get their political info from Sean and Rush.

Hmm....this would require me to make the assumption that both parties are just different sides of the same coin, as they have been for much of American history...unfortunately you are wrong...at least when talking PCTs. The remaining left is basically devoid any moderate voice...it's definitely devoid of it at it's leadership positions...this is not true of the Right.

Since the Republicans are in charge of the country, it would seem that the moderates are generally right centered now, for capturing the moderate vote is the only way a political party may gain that control...and I think obviously...the moderates are the people with the highest political IQ, because they realize that neither party is rigth all of the time.


Be a man like Bush and admit it.


Someday the left will again be able to do more than draw lame moral equivalencies and try to make 2 wrongs equal a right...and on that day, I just might consider supporting that party again...however I see nothing to indicate that day is near...and everything to indicate that it is getting further and further away.

[whottt]

And you might actually have a point Joe....within this forum there might be just as many right wing blog educated posters as there are lefties...

It could just be that the majority of the lefties have 5-10 additional nicks on this forum that they use deceptively to inflate their influence on the board...

One thing is certain...the majority of the lefties on this board do use many additional nicks while posting in this forum...while those in the middle and right...don't really

Go on Joe...Be like Bush...admit it.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I've never absolved the federal government of blame in all this.

I do have a serious problem with the demorats, including Miss high and mighty gov. of La., trying to place all the blame on Bush and FEMA for not being able to bail them with a day's notice when they were too stupid to follow the letter of their own evacuation/disaster plans.

[The Ressurrected One]

''Katrina exposed serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government,'' Bush said at joint White House news conference with the president of Iraq.

''To the extent the federal government didn't fully do it's job right, I take responsibility,'' Bush said.

"To the extent..."

No one has yet to say to what extent that is, have they?

[Useruser666]

The president is going to give Dan a divide by zero error.

President Bush = Wrong

President Bush says it is his fault.

Bush admitting fault = Wrong

But it is Bush's fault?

ERROR ERROR ERROR

DanBot not compute!

[Spurminator]

:lol

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

^^^^ x2 :lmao

Divide by zero error. Maybe Dan can take the limit of the equation as he approaches insanity.

[mouse]

Backbone?................That's like T park saying ok everyone I lied :lmao

the only good thing about this is folks like Manny and other Bush lovers can now sleep at night,

Oh BTW......Osama Bin laden just said he will take responsibility for 9/11


Bush is still an ass hole , and now he is using this disaster for his own personal gain,

A real back bone? would have been 10 days ago,

I can just see the grin on Manny's face as he couldn't type fast enough to post what he thinks is good news, Well it looks like Bush's plan is working.............



Ps: 'Ashley Simpson just called shs is taking full responsibility for the lip sync on SNL

[Oscar DeLa]

I don't know what it is but
I can't really think of any shittier presidents than Bush

[mouse]

I don't know what it is but
I can't really think of any shittier presidents than Bush


his father.

[Oscar DeLa]

I don't know what it is but
at least his father SEEMED to have some intelect

[mouse]

I don't know what it is but
at least his father SEEMED to have some intelect

fuck the intelect the man needed a rubber that night,

[jochhejaam]

Hey, lying then asking for forgiveness worked for another president.


Good point except that he neither lied no did he ask for forgiveness. Other than that you're right on the money. :rolleyes

[boutons]

"To the extent" = qualification, wiggle room, weasal words.

"serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government"

... still sliming city/state, spreading the responsibility.

Come on, Mr. Macho Bring 'em On, stand up like a man and admit your Big Government showpice, DHS/FEMA, designed and implemented by your all-business/no-nonsense/MBA/CEO/this-is-how-Repugs-do-govt team, to carry out your "vow" to protect America, failed miserably, fatally in crunch time.

Take the banana out of your flight suit and stop hiding behind state rights and legal bullshit.

You are failed as a leader,
your are failed as protector of America,
your are failed as commander-in-chief

America has become less safe on your watch,
has more enemies directly as a result of your BS war,
and 1000's of Americans have died needlessly in Iraq and Katrina as direct result of your government's profound incompetence.

[JoeChalupa]

And you might actually have a point Joe....within this forum there might be just as many right wing blog educated posters as there are lefties...

It could just be that the majority of the lefties have 5-10 additional nicks on this forum that they use deceptively to inflate their influence on the board...

One thing is certain...the majority of the lefties on this board do use many additional nicks while posting in this forum...while those in the middle and right...don't really

Go on Joe...Be like Bush...admit it.

I take full responsibility for my political posts.

[Spurminator]

"To the extent" = qualification, wiggle room, weasal words.

"serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government"

... still sliming city/state, spreading the responsibility.


Um, no shit.

You gonna say that state and local leadership had no faults in this entire crisis?

Say it, hard ass. I dare you. Say that Blanco and Nagin are 100% exempt from criticism or reflection.

Prove you're a sheep.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

"To the extent" = qualification, wiggle room, weasal words.


To the extent, because to anyone whose not such a bigot towards anything related to W. or the presidency it's obvious state and local people F'ed up too. That's his point... why the hell should he take responsibility for the state and local screw ups? Oh yeah... they're democrats, and democrats never screw up [/dumbass boutons]



"serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government"

... still sliming city/state, spreading the responsibility.

Again, unless you're either a bigot or an idiot (which you look as though you might be both), the state and local governments deserve some blame.

Riddle me this oh spiteful one... Why is it neither Mississippi or Alabama are having the problems NO had, despite having maybe 1/20th of the federal resources dedicated to them combined that NO had?

To save you the time, it's because both states followed their hurricane playbooks, while Blanco and Nagin improvised on the fly, then crapped themselves when the levee broke and expected the federal government to fix it all on the spot.

[jochhejaam]

"To the extent" = qualification, wiggle room, weasal words.

"serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government"

... still sliming city/state, spreading the responsibility.

Come on, Mr. Macho Bring 'em On, stand up like a man and admit your Big Government showpice, DHS/FEMA, designed and implemented by your all-business/no-nonsense/MBA/CEO/this-is-how-Repugs-do-govt team, to carry out your "vow" to protect America, failed miserably, fatally in crunch time.

Take the banana out of your flight suit and stop hiding behind state rights and legal bullshit.

You are failed as a leader,
your are failed as protector of America,
your are failed as commander-in-chief

America has become less safe on your watch,
has more enemies directly as a result of your BS war,
and 1000's of Americans have died needlessly in Iraq and Katrina as direct result of your government's profound incompetence.

Boutons actions speak louder than his words;

http://dragonballyee.blogs.com/philly/images/mccain_hugs_bush_500.jpg

Boutons photographed ^^^ at a recent Bush rally. SS had to pry him off.

[Ocotillo]

http://billmon.org/archives/bushresponsibility.jpg

[SpursWoman]

http://billmon.org/archives/bushresponsibility.jpg


Funny, though. :lol

[boutons]

"You gonna say that state and local leadership had no faults in this entire crisis?"

I haven't defended city/state levels at all. It's pretty obvious they fucked up, but the final story of what level fucked up which roles will take months or years to unravel.

shrub finally, when it was unavoidable and unpolitic to continue avoiding accountability, weasally accepted some responsibility, qualifed 'to some extent", while still making sure that city/state got slimed in his apology, which come across as:

"I am forced to accept that I fucked up to some extent, but city/state fucked up, too".

What a man, what a leader, where
"Some of the Bucks Stop Here, Some Bucks Stop Over There, Wherever."

[boutons]

"You gonna say that state and local leadership had no faults in this entire crisis?"

I haven't defended city/state levels at all. It's pretty obvious they fucked up, but the final story of what level fucked up which roles will take months or years to unravel.

shrub finally, when it was unavoidable and unpolitic to continue avoiding accountability, weasally accepted some responsibility, qualifed 'to some extent", while still making sure that city/state got slimed in his apology, which come across as:

"I am forced to accept that I fucked up to some extent, but city/state fucked up, too".

What a man, what a leader, where
"Some of the Bucks Stop Here, Some Bucks Stop Over There, Wherever."

[Ocotillo]

Don't like the guy, I'm in the 30% Marcus refers to in one of his posts, but you gotta tip your hat when he does something right.

[exstatic]

Great move, political or other wise.

Good call Rove.


Rove is in the hospital right now with kidney stones. I doubt he's thinking of anything but his next painkiller shot.

[Spurminator]

I haven't defended city/state levels at all. It's pretty obvious they fucked up, but the final story of what level fucked up which roles will take months or years to unravel.

shrub finally, when it was unavoidable and unpolitic to continue avoiding accountability, weasally accepted some responsibility, qualifed 'to some extent",


So in other words, shrub isn't 100% responsible but shrub should still claim 100% responsibility because you can't stand that guy.

As I thought.

[Hook Dem]

So in other words, shrub isn't 100% responsible but shrub should still claim 100% responsibility because you can't stand that guy.

As I thought.
With Boutons it's..."Do as I say, not as I do ".

[boutons]

"So in other words"

no, in YOUR words.

Let me spell it out, HD, since you obviously are as lost as shrub:

shrub, if he was Real Man instead of Confused, Dickless Weasel, should have simply, clearly accepted 100% responsibility (not "to some extent") for _only_ his _FEDERAL_ fuckups, without continuing the Repug slime job on "all levels".