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Shastafarian
09-19-2015, 10:42 AM
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Powerful speech. A shame it's not based in fact and heavily biased.
ddjeffries
09-20-2015, 04:11 PM
Please elaborate. And of course it's heavily biased. You think she wishes she died during an abortion?
Spurminator
09-20-2015, 08:43 PM
Please elaborate. And of course it's heavily biased. You think she wishes she died during an abortion?
How does that make her an expert on abortion policy?
boutons_deux
09-22-2015, 09:44 AM
having heavily edit the report absolving PP so as to criminalize planned parenthood ...
Florida’s GOP Administration Goes After Two Abortion Providers After Failed Investigation
Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s administration is moving forward with sanctioning two more abortion providers, unaffiliated with Planned Parenthood, with identical charges to those it alleged against three Planned Parenthood affiliated clinics.
The sanctions come in the wake of revelations that the administration edited a state agency press release about the results of an investigation into Planned Parenthood, and the resignation soon thereafter of the agency’s top communications official.
No evidence was found (http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2015/08/06/planned-parenthood-investigations-uncovering-wrongdoing/) this summer that fetal tissue was being sold illegally in Florida after the Scott administration’s investigation into Planned Parenthood facilities across Florida.
The AHCA issued a press release (http://ahca.myflorida.com/Executive/Communications/Press_Releases/pdf/PlannedParenthoodpressreleasefinal.pdf) on August 5 that an investigation had allegedly discovered three Planned Parenthood clinics were performing second-trimester abortions and the agency had ordered the health centers to stop providing them after ascertaining they didn’t have the proper licenses.
Top officials working in Scott’s office rewrote the agency’s press release and deleted any mention that Planned Parenthood had been cleared by the investigation of “mishandling of fetal remains.”
Emails between the governor’s office and AHCA, obtained by Politico (http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/florida/2015/09/8575790/scotts-office-scrubbed-release-cleared-planned-parenthood) through a public records request, reportedly show that the agency had prepared a press release stating that “there is no evidence of the mishandling of fetal remains at any of the 16 clinics we investigated across the state.
http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2015/09/22/floridas-gop-administration-goes-two-abortion-providers-failed-investigation/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rhrealitycheck+%28RH+Reality+ Check%29
boutons_deux
09-22-2015, 01:40 PM
Marco Rubio Says You Can Use Parts From Dead Babies, But Only When God Kills ‘Em
"There are cases where a child is miscarried or some other natural end to a pregnancy, and in those cases, if there’s something that can be salvaged from it, that could help someone else, no different than organ donation, or unfortunately someone who’s young and healthy dies in a car accident and — I’ve had a relative who died an untimely death, and his organs were harvested and helped save people and provide organs for them."
http://wonkette.com/594161/marco-rubio-says-you-can-use-parts-from-dead-babies-but-only-when-god-kills-em
boutons_deux
09-25-2015, 09:04 AM
maybe the entire PP sting was a tactic to get rid of Boner if he didn't get hard enough to shutdown govt if PP wasn't defunded.
Boner going flaccid and leaving govt at end of October.
ddjeffries
09-26-2015, 03:30 PM
How does that make her an expert on abortion policy?
I'd say she has more experience with abortion than the vast majority of people as she survived an abortion.
Warlord23
09-26-2015, 07:47 PM
The only interesting thing left about this story is what happens to CMP (the producer of the videos) in court, and how deep a hole the GOP presidential candidates dig for themselves.
It's already established by numerous fact checkers that the "fetus" footage in the video that Carly Fiorina misrepresented during the debate was stock video interspersed with some comments being made by a woman who apparently witnessed this. Also the "sale" of tissue was nothing more than reimbursement of expenses. Every state that has investigated PP so far has found nothing illegal.
CMP has tried to plead the fifth, but the judge disallowed this on the grounds that CMP is an organization and not a person. If the GOP candidates ignore all this and continue to talk up this issue to secure the fringe vote, it will likely come back to haunt them in the general
boutons_deux
09-27-2015, 05:55 AM
"haunt them in the general"
not with their Christian Taliban base, the pro-birth (but anti-life) crowd, to whom the Repugs are pandering with the PP defunding, which will be on their main campaign issues, and Congressional priorities, right up to Nov '16.
Spurminator
09-27-2015, 11:05 AM
I'd say she has more experience with abortion than the vast majority of people as she survived an abortion.
:lol
Good to know expertise can be drawn upon one's experiences at birth. I guess I'll go write a book on childbirth methods, because I was born once.
boutons_deux
09-29-2015, 03:09 PM
Anti-Choicers Embarrassed By Planned Parenthood Hearing, Call It ‘GOP Freak Show’
The hearing today started with a tearful speech by Chairman Jason Chaffetz, in which he appeared to blame his mother’s death (http://www.salon.com/2015/09/29/tearful_jason_chaffetz_opens_planned_parenthood_he arings_by_suggesting_the_organization_killed_his_p arents/) on Planned Parenthood. Chaffetz argued that federal money granted to Planned Parenthood should be spent on cancer research instead.
When Richards began to testify, she was repeatedly interrupted by Chaffetz and other Republican men on the committee. Here’s a short clip from the Chaffetz Q&A:
Richards, as to be expected, dismissed the hearing as another “baseless attack on reproductive health care (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cecile-richards/today-we-fight-back_b_8211066.html).”
But, even among Planned Parenthood’s fiercest critics, the hearing was not received well. Pro-life conservatives blasted the spectacle on Twitter. The editors of several prominent anti-abortion publications said the questioners were unprepared, incompetent and embarrassing.
Townhall editor and Fox News pundit Guy Benson:
Federalist co-founder Sean Davis:
American Spectator digital editor Emily Zanotti:
If Zanotti is looking for a detailed investigation of the controversy, one was produced yesterday by the Attorney General of Missouri (https://www.ago.mo.gov/home/ag-koster-finds-no-evidence-of-wrongdoing-in-planned-parenthood-investigation).
After reviewing 3,500 pages of documentation and conducting in person interviews, the attorney general found “no evidence that [Planned Parenthood] has engaged in unlawful disposal of fetal organs or tissue.”
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2015/09/29/3706951/planned-parenthood-hearing-freak-show/
boutons_deux
09-29-2015, 03:11 PM
Tearful Jason Chaffetz opens Planned Parenthood hearings by suggesting the organization killed his parents
Utah Representative Jason Chaffetz opened the House’s Oversight and Government Reform Committee’s hoax-inspired (http://www.salon.com/2015/07/16/what_the_planned_parenthood_hoax_really_proves_rig ht_wing_extremists_have_no_qualms_about_destroying _peoples_lives/) hearings into Planned Parenthood by tearfully implying that the organization is responsible for the deaths of his parents, both of whom succumbed to cancer.
Chaffetz — who was on “Fox & Friends” earlier that morning sounding very confused about the evidentiary value of the videos behind the hearings (http://www.salon.com/2015/09/29/fox_friends_cant_decide_whether_theyve_actually_se en_those_undercover_awful_planned_parenthood_video s/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow) — began by noting that his wife works for a plastic surgeon who treats women who have had mastectomies. He lamented, and not for the last time, that Planned Parenthood doesn’t perform mammograms, though he neglected to mention that like almost all gynecologists in private practice, the organization refers women to a radiological center for that particular procedure.
“Cancer in this country kills about 1,500 people a day,” Chaffetz said. “A day — and yet our federal government only spends $5 billion to fight it. If they were shooting 1,500 people a day, if there were rockets coming in, we would be fighting this with everything we’ve got.”
His point, of course, is that “we don’t spend enough on cancer,” instead wasting tax-payer dollars on Planned Parenthood. “The question before us is does this organization, does Planned Parenthood really need federal subsidy? Does it need federal dollars?”
http://www.salon.com/2015/09/29/tearful_jason_chaffetz_opens_planned_parenthood_he arings_by_suggesting_the_organization_killed_his_p arents/
goddam, you Repugs elect some total marans, emotional, intellectual midgets.
boutons_deux
09-29-2015, 04:40 PM
Even deep red, rape caucus, nasty Missouri strikes out
Missouri Finds Planned Parenthood Didn’t Mishandle Fetal Tissue
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/30/us/planned-parenthood-fetal-tissue-missouri.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
boutons_deux
09-29-2015, 04:48 PM
The GOP's Great Mammogram Farce Of 2015
Over and over during the farce that was supposed to be a hearing on Planned Parenthood, Republican representatives attacked Planned Parenthood CEO Cecile Richards because her organization does not provide mammograms as part of its core set of services. (They do sometimes pair with organizations for programs that offer them to low-income women.) Over and over again, the fact that Planned Parenthood doesn’t offer mammograms was held out as some kind of proof that the organization doesn’t provide women’s health care. Apparently, Republicans are under the impression that women are Barbie dolls, with big breasts and nothing between our legs but a flat surface.
This obsession with mammograms belies the real agenda here, which has nothing to do with “fetal body parts” or even abortion, but with delegitimizing health care that exists so that people, particularly women, can have healthy and safe sex lives. The implication was clear: Mammograms are real health care, and all those other services—contraception, STI testing and treatment, Pap smears—are not. After all, virgins can get breast cancer, but you aren’t going to get the clap or an unintended pregnancy if you don’t have sex.
Republicans are smart and know they can’t just come right out and denounce the use of health care services in order to have recreational sex, because recreational sex is a nearly universal behavior. Ninety-nine percent of women who have sex (http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_contr_use.html) have used contraception. Ninety-five percent of Americans had premarital sex (https://www.guttmacher.org/media/nr/2006/12/19/).
So the slut-shaming is being done sideways, by focusing heavily on non-sexual health care — or prenatal care — while pointedly ignoring the health care people centered around having sex. The omission speaks volumes.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/mammograms-planned-parenthood?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29
boutons_deux
09-29-2015, 04:53 PM
Whatever you think of Planned Parenthood, this is a terrible and dishonest chart
https://twitter.com/Bound4LIFE/status/648873097454579712/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
This is not how charts work! Since 935,573 is a larger number than 327,653, the pink line should be above the red line. Here's what you get if you chart the numbers accurately:
https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/PZ8--K_A_kzQ2bR8_Se8VTceraE=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4108426/abortion-chart-Fpo1.0.jpg
The chart is misleading in another way, too. It's true that Planned Parenthood performed 290,000 abortions and 2 million cancer-related services in 2006. But the organization also provided more than 3 million treatments for sexually transmitted diseases and nearly 4 million contraceptive services that year. By 2013, the number of STD treatments had gone up (https://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/6714/1996/2641/2013-2014_Annual_Report_FINAL_WEB_VERSION.pdf) to 4.5 million, while the number of contraceptive services declined modestly to 3.6 million:
https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/yx3U3jPoZq93ASrKRJcBiaYVRlU=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4108478/abortion_chart_2.0.jpg
http://www.vox.com/2015/9/29/9417845/planned-parenthood-terrible-chart
ddjeffries
09-29-2015, 06:38 PM
:lol
Good to know expertise can be drawn upon one's experiences at birth. I guess I'll go write a book on childbirth methods, because I was born once.
So ignore her life's work which as revolved around abortion? Sound logic you have there.
ddjeffries
09-29-2015, 06:41 PM
http://www.adfmedia.org/files/CoalfireCMPvideosReport.pdf
Second report finding no manipulation of the CMP videos. Yet Planned Parenthood still uses this as their #1 excuse.
boutons_deux
09-29-2015, 07:09 PM
http://www.adfmedia.org/files/CoalfireCMPvideosReport.pdf
Second report finding no manipulation of the CMP videos. Yet Planned Parenthood still uses this as their #1 excuse.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Defending_Freedom :lol
Shastafarian
09-29-2015, 07:21 PM
So ignore her life's work which as revolved around abortion? Sound logic you have there.
What is her life's work other than speaking out against abortion? I see from her website she's really into Jesus and making some fairly terrible music. But it seems like she just speaks out against abortion, again based on her heavily biased experience with it. She's not a doctor nor a scientist from what I can tell and therefore her testimony should be taken for what it is, an anecdote.
As far as I know there have been 0 states to find that PP profited from selling fetal tissues. If these videos were the proof of misconduct, where is the corroboration?
ddjeffries
09-29-2015, 08:01 PM
What is her life's work other than speaking out against abortion? I see from her website she's really into Jesus and making some fairly terrible music. But it seems like she just speaks out against abortion, again based on her heavily biased experience with it. She's not a doctor nor a scientist from what I can tell and therefore her testimony should be taken for what it is, an anecdote.
As far as I know there have been 0 states to find that PP profited from selling fetal tissues. If these videos were the proof of misconduct, where is the corroboration?
She has to be a doctor or scientist to be an expert on abortion policy? My replies were toward "How does that make her an expert on abortion policy?"
Shastafarian
09-29-2015, 08:02 PM
She has to be a doctor or scientist to be an expert on abortion policy? My replies were toward "How does that make her an expert on abortion policy?"
So what is her expertise then? Why can't you just answer the question?
ddjeffries
09-29-2015, 08:06 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Defending_Freedom :lol
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/politico-fails-mention-report-exonerating-planned-parenthood-produced-democratic-opposition-research-firm_1020250.html#
Just an answer to Planned Parenthoods "independent" analysis LOL. And all your neutral articles you post.
ChumpDumper
09-29-2015, 09:06 PM
Holy shit, the Republicans totally embarrassed themselves in that hearing today. It's stunning how badly they performed given how much time they had to prepare and how much they wanted this.
Spurminator
09-29-2015, 11:17 PM
She has to be a doctor or scientist to be an expert on abortion policy?
Preferably, yes, unless you know of some other means of gathering expertise beyond how she was born.
boutons_deux
09-30-2015, 05:38 AM
Holy shit, the Republicans totally embarrassed themselves in that hearing today. It's stunning how badly they performed given how much time they had to prepare and how much they wanted this.
they don't care about competence, governing, solutions, progress. They're all nothing but rabble-rousing clowns fucking up govt.
PP has nothing to do with enabling/protecting/enriching BigCorp and 1%, at which the Repugs are excellent. Trashing PP is pure pandering politics to rouse the rabble.
Harassing PP with LYING videos, shutting down the govt are CAMPAIGN events, not governing events.
boutons_deux
09-30-2015, 08:09 AM
Judge Blocks Utah Guv's Order To Cut Off Planned Parenthood Funding
A judge on Tuesday blocked an order issued by Utah Gov. Gary Herbert to cut off federal money going to Planned Parenthood in the state after the release of secretly recorded videos by a California anti-abortion group.
U.S. District Judge Clark Waddoups issued the temporary restraining order during a hearing, allowing the money to keep flowing while the Planned Parenthood Association of Utah seeks a longer-term injunction.
Planned Parenthood sought the emergency order a day after suing Herbert. It said some programs would have expired Wednesday if the money was blocked.
Herbert acted on his personal and political agenda when he cut off funding to the organization following the release of the videos, said Peggy Tomsic, a lawyer for the Planned Parenthood Association of Utah.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/gary-herbert-planned-parenthood-order-blocked?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29
boutons_deux
09-30-2015, 08:19 AM
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/politico-fails-mention-report-exonerating-planned-parenthood-produced-democratic-opposition-research-firm_1020250.html#
Just an answer to Planned Parenthoods "independent" analysis LOL. And all your neutral articles you post.
WS doesn't answer shit. It's just a VRWC mouthpiece
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Weekly_Standard
boutons_deux
09-30-2015, 04:48 PM
Here's McCarthy also admitting Repugs are ACORNing / Shirley Sherrod-ing /Benghazi-ing Planned Parenthood.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../29/cg.01.html (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1509/29/cg.01.html)
ddjeffries
09-30-2015, 05:59 PM
So what is her expertise then? Why can't you just answer the question?
Her life's work has been on abortion, so her expertise is in abortion. That is implied. No one is saying she's more knowledgable then some others but she's obviously knowledgeable enough to speak before a congressional committee. Not sure why you are so offended.
Shastafarian
09-30-2015, 08:31 PM
Her life's work has been on abortion, so her expertise is in abortion. That is implied. No one is saying she's more knowledgable then some others but she's obviously knowledgeable enough to speak before a congressional committee. Not sure why you are so offended.
You still didn't answer the question. Being aborted doesn't make one an expert on abortion. What is her expertise? She is speaking on abortion using an ANECDOTE. See how far anecdotal evidence gets you in any court. I'm not offended I'm just not persuaded by her testimony. Add in the fact she believes in an invisible man in the sky who watches us all and I take her testimony even less seriously.
As an aside to her specifically, WHERE is the evidence PP did anything illegal as the Center for Medical Progress (hilarious name) claims? Or are you just another person who thinks things were better when abortion was illegal?
boutons_deux
09-30-2015, 08:58 PM
Catholic asshole slanders and lies
NY Times' Ross Douthat Resurrects Debunked Claim That Planned Parenthood "Endorsed A Right To Post-Birth Abortion"
http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/09/30/ny-times-ross-douthat-resurrects-debunked-claim/205887
boutons_deux
10-01-2015, 11:41 AM
Fire at Thousand Oaks Planned Parenthood office found to be arson
A fire Wednesday night at a Planned Parenthood facility in Thousand Oaks was determined to be arson, authorities said.
Ventura County sheriff’s Capt. John Reilly said someone likely used a rock to shatter a window at the Planned Parenthood facility in the 1200 block of West Hillcrest Drive, then threw gasoline inside the office and ignited it.
The attack comes more than six weeks after the office was vandalized,
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-suspicious-fire-planned-parenthood-20151001-story.html
boutons_deux
10-02-2015, 08:02 AM
Planned Parenthood Talks
Peering down at Richards, Representative John Duncan Jr., a Tennessee Republican, noted that the Boys & Girls Clubs of America “received $26 million from the federal government, compared to your $528 million. Seems a little bit lopsided to me.”
Richards mildly noted that as much as she respected the Boys & Girls Clubs, it doesn’t do a whole lot in the way of providing health care services to Medicaid recipients. Unmoved, Duncan then demanded to know if Richards would defend “the sale of baby body parts.”
Several Democrats on the committee charged their Republican colleagues with sexism because they continually interrupted Richards and talked over her answers. (Representative Gerry Connolly of Virginia complained about “the disrespect, the misogyny rampant here today.”) But to be fair, this is really standard operating procedure in the House these days, and Richards, who is the daughter of former Texas Gov. Ann Richards, is not exactly a delicate flower.
Her interrogators also harped on her salary, which is more than $520,000 a year.
The base salary for the head of the Boys & Girls Clubs, by the way, is $576,000.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/10/01/opinion/gail-collins-planned-parenthood-talks.html?_r=2
boutons_deux
10-02-2015, 01:52 PM
Seth Meyers DESTROYS the bullshit PP hearings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=120&v=K7pNkqVmNKM
SpursforSix
10-02-2015, 01:56 PM
Planned Parenthood Talks
Peering down at Richards, Representative John Duncan Jr., a Tennessee Republican, noted that the Boys & Girls Clubs of America “received $26 million from the federal government, compared to your $528 million. Seems a little bit lopsided to me.”
Richards mildly noted that as much as she respected the Boys & Girls Clubs, it doesn’t do a whole lot in the way of providing health care services to Medicaid recipients. Unmoved, Duncan then demanded to know if Richards would defend “the sale of baby body parts.”
I also heard that Boys & Girls Club really falls behind Planned Parenthood when it comes to selling live human aborted American babies to BigPharma.
boutons_deux
10-02-2015, 02:02 PM
I also heard that Boys & Girls Club really falls behind Planned Parenthood when it comes to selling live human aborted American babies to BigPharma.
You Lie
... as expected. Totally, WILLFULLY duped by CMP bullshit vids.
SpursforSix
10-02-2015, 02:04 PM
You Lie
... as expected. Totally, WILLFULLY duped by CMP bullshit vids.
what's CMP. what vids?
boutons_deux
10-02-2015, 02:49 PM
what's CMP. what vids?
:lol
boutons_deux
10-02-2015, 03:44 PM
Satanic Temple Sues For Woman’s Religious Freedom To Do Devil Abortions
http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Knocked-up-Satans-Daughter.jpg
Back in June, Missouri filed a motion to dismiss the suit, and last week, the Satanic Temple filed its answer, (https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/thank-the-lord-satanists-go-to-court-to-fight-for-abortion-rights-this-week?utm_source=broadlytwitterus) arguing that as a Satanist, their client, “Mary Doe,” believes her body is inviolable, and only she can make medical decisions about her medical care. Thus, the waiting period and mandatory anti-abortion reading material infringed her ability to exercise her faith. (Also, at this point, while the suit is going forward, the practical outcome is no longer a question, since “Mary Doe” went ahead and had the abortion, (http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/missouri-abortion-restrictions-violate-religious-beliefs-member-of-satanic-temple/article_d09f1799-dc87-516e-8079-7b214c7d230a.html) accepting the waiting period under protest.)
Thanks to restrictive abortion laws, Missouri has only one clinic that provides abortions. (It’s the same one and only Missouri abortion clinic the state attorney general just finished investigating, and no, it is not (http://wonkette.com/594357/oh-look-another-planned-parenthood-caught-doing-absolutely-nothing-wrong) illegally selling baby parts for scraps.)
When a woman goes to the clinic to have an abortion, she then has to turn around and go home to and wait for 72 hours, to make sure she really really wants that abortion. The Satanic Temple’s position is that since none of the state’s restrictions are medically necessary, they constitute an effort to coerce religious beliefs (http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/missouri-abortion-restrictions-violate-religious-beliefs-member-of-satanic-temple/article_d09f1799-dc87-516e-8079-7b214c7d230a.html)upon the woman seeking an abortion:
Under the group’s tenets, Doe does not believe having an abortion terminates a separate, living human being, court documents say. So she believes her rights were violated when she was subject to the consent information and the 72-hour waiting period when she went to Planned Parenthood for an abortion.
Doe’s attorney, W. James McNaughton, argued that Doe was entitled to an exemption from the waiting period and reading material under, Missouri’s Restoring Freedom of Religion Act:
http://wonkette.com/594487/satanic-temple-sues-for-womans-religious-freedom-to-do-devil-abortions
boutons_deux
10-07-2015, 07:48 PM
Dems: GOP Won’t Give Us Full Planned Parenthood Attack Videos
Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY) said on the House floor Wednesday that congressional Republicans are refusing to give Democrats copies of what could be the full, unedited source footage of the deceptive videos attacking Planned Parenthood.
Rep. Jason Chaffetz, chair of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, issued a subpoena (http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2015/09/17/house-committee-wants-unedited-planned-parenthood-attack-videos/) last month to David Daleiden, head of the anti-choicefront group (http://rhrealitycheck.org/a-network-of-lies/) known as the Center for Medical Progress, for all of the unedited videos he has that relate to the acquisition, preparation, and sale of fetal tissue.
Daleiden delivered these videos to the committee on September 25, Slaughter said—but he only provided the videos to the committee’s Republicans, in direct violation of the subpoena. That subpoena reads, “Two sets of documents shall be delivered, one set to the Majority Staff and one set to the Minority Staff.”
Then, Slaughter said, Chaffetz refused to open the package containing the videos until two weeks later. Now his staff is refusing to give copies of the videos, which Chaffetz “has in his possession right now on a computer hard drive,” to Democratic committee members.
http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2015/10/07/dems-gop-wont-give-us-full-planned-parenthood-attack-videos/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rhrealitycheck+%28RH+Reality+ Check%29
If the Repugs have nothing to hide ... :lol
boutons_deux
10-07-2015, 07:49 PM
It took one editor of the Planned Parenthood videos 11 months to do his work (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/08/1428526/-It-took-one-editor-of-the-Planned-Parenthood-videos-11-months-to-do-his-work)
Huffington Post has discovered the identity (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/planned-parenthood-edited-videos_5612fe6de4b0baa355ad046f?1blkrzfr) of at least one of the editors of the videos produced by the Center for Medical Progress showing what the CMP and Republicans say is Planned Parenthood doing something bad. Not only have they identified the editor, they've discovered how long it took to get at least one of the videos out: 11 months.
Which makes for a lot of editing time.
Video editor Ryan Gonzalez spent at least 11 months working on the footage, according to his Facebook page and a friend of his who is familiar with the editing process. The friend requested to remain anonymous due to the sensitivity of the matter.Gonzalez worked on the videos with David Daleiden, a self-described "citizen journalist" who started the Center for Medical Progress and who previously worked for the anti-abortion group Live Action. […]
On July 14, after the center released the first hidden-camera video, Gonzalez posted the link on Facebook, saying, "This is the first part of a project I've been editing since last August and haven't been able to talk about until now."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/08/1428526/-It-took-one-editor-of-the-Planned-Parenthood-videos-11-months-to-do-his-work?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29
boutons_deux
10-08-2015, 09:21 AM
House Republicans vote to give Planned Parenthood the Benghazi treatment (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/08/1429094/-House-Republicans-vote-to-give-Planned-Parenthood-the-Benghazi-treatment)
There will be a select committee to "investigate" Planned Parenthood after the House voted on Wednesday, 242 to 184 (http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/256254-house-creates-panel-to-investigate-planned-parenthood), to create a 13-member panel. This after House Oversight Committee Chairman (and would-be Speaker of the House) Rep. Jason Chaffetz admitted (http://democrats.judiciary.house.gov/press-release/conyers-chaffetz-confirms-planned-parenthood-did-not-break-any-laws) that Planned Parenthood had broken no laws. Nonetheless, the resolution creating the committee came to the floor (http://democrats.judiciary.house.gov/press-release/conyers-chaffetz-confirms-planned-parenthood-did-not-break-any-laws) and passed.
The four-page bill does not mention Planned Parenthood by name. Instead, it charges the committee to investigate
“fetal tissue procurement,”
“federal funding and support for abortion providers” and
“born-alive” abortions, generally.
But Republicans were clear that the committee’s work is intended to deepen three existing House committee probes into Planned Parenthood, which began in early August.
The committees have held three hearings as part of their investigations, which has prompted Planned Parenthood to turn over at least 20,000 documents, according to Democrats.
Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) will lead the panel, with Republicans apparently believing that having a woman head up it up will inoculate them against charges that this is just more of their War on Women.
They're wrong.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/08/1429094/-House-Republicans-vote-to-give-Planned-Parenthood-the-Benghazi-treatment?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29#
Just more 100% bullshit distraction and pandering to their misogynist, pro-birth, Christian Sharia base.
aka, Repug MISgovernance in bad faith.
spurraider21
10-08-2015, 05:29 PM
^VLWC
Winehole23
10-09-2015, 03:08 PM
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said Thursday that the GOP's investigation into Planned Parenthood's use of federal funds hasn't turned up anything.
"Did I look at the finances and have a hearing specifically as to the revenue portion and how they spend? Yes. Was there any wrongdoing? I didn't find any," he said during a Judiciary Committee hearing on the family planning provider.
Chaffetz, a candidate for House speaker, grilled Planned Parenthood president Cecile Richards during a five-hour hearing (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/planned-parenthood-congress-hearing_560af940e4b0dd8503099da7) last week. He questioned her salary (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jason-chaffetz-carolyn-maloney-planned-parenthood-defund_560a93f9e4b0768126ff1597), asked about the organization's expenses and revenues, and pressed Richards on why the group had revenue of $127 million last year if it's a nonprofit. (Nonprofits put their revenues back into their programs.)
But after all that, he concluded that Planned Parenthood isn't doing anything sketchy with its money. "Did we find any wrongdoing? The answer was no," Chaffetz said.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jason-chaffetz-planned-parenthood-funding_5616ed01e4b0dbb8000de134
boutons_deux
10-09-2015, 03:28 PM
^VLWC
^asshole
boutons_deux
10-12-2015, 05:19 AM
what govt is supposed to do: protect naive, stressed citizens from dangerous frauds, liars like the bogus, LYING unlicensed, non-medical Crisis Pregnancy Centers.
One State Finally Cracked Down on Deceptive Anti-Abortion Pregnancy Centers
California on Friday became the only state to target anti-abortion pregnancy centers with a law cracking down on deceptive practices some have used to prevent or dissuade women from having an abortion.
The new law, which forces some crisis pregnancy centers to offer information about public assistance for reproductive services and others to notify patients that there are no medical professionals on staff
But the new law may represent the outer limit of what legislatures can do to regulate crisis pregnancy centers. The measure, called AB 775, almost certainly faces the same fraught legal battles that stalled similar regulations in cities including Baltimore, New York, and Austin. Those battles forced NARAL and its allies to be conservative in crafting the new regulations. For instance,
the law cannot force unlicensed centers to inform women that the state health department encourages women to visit licensed medical providers for prenatal care. A new court fight could erode their options even further.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/10/state-just-became-first-crack-down-deceptive-anti-abortion-pregnancy-centers
do you shitbag rightwingnuts, Repugs, Christian Taliban provide any HONESTY in anything you do or say?
boutons_deux
10-13-2015, 04:40 PM
Repug MISgovernance, obsesses with vaginas and wimmen having sex
GOP Lawmakers To Smithsonian: Take Down That Margaret Sanger Bust!
http://a5.img.talkingpointsmemo.com/image/upload/c_fill,fl_keep_iptc,g_faces,h_365,w_652/f5n5sb77iyealsom5yok.jpg
A group of Republican lawmakers are reiterating their call for the Smithsonian National Portrait Gallery to remove a bust of Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger.
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and 25 House members sent a letter (https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cruz.senate.gov%2Ffile s%2Fdocuments%2FLetters%2F20151013_Cruz_Gohmert_Sa ngerLetter.pdf) to the museum's director Kim Sajet Friday calling the display of the bust "an affront both to basic human decency and the very meaning of justice."
The letter pointed to Sanger's support of eugenics, but also blasted her for founding Planned Parenthood, which has been in the crosshairs of congressional Republicans and nearly prompted them to shutdown the federal government rather the reauthorize its funding.
"Renewed concern and scrutiny of Ms. Sanger’s background stems from the recent ongoing revelations of Planned Parenthood’s potential activities in the trafficking of fetal tissue and baby body parts from abortions," the letter said. It goes on to take out of context (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/08/18/carsons-claim-that-planned-parenthood-targets-blacks-to-control-that-population/) a line from a 1939 letter written by Sanger to suggest Planned Parenthood was formed to "exterminate the Negro population.”
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sanger-national-portrait-gallery?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29
boutons_deux
10-19-2015, 11:28 AM
Texas cuts off Medicaid funding to Planned Parenthood: report
Texas has cut off Medicaid funding to Planned Parenthood, NBC News' Houston affiliate reported on Monday.
In a letter on Monday, Texas health officials told Planned Parenthood clinics statewide that all funding from the government health insurance program for the poor was being severed, KPRC reported.
The move follows a federal judge's decision blocking Louisiana's efforts to defund Planned Parenthood clinics in that state.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/19/us-usa-plannedparenthood-texas-idUSKCN0SD1UY20151019?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews (http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/19/us-usa-plannedparenthood-texas-idUSKCN0SD1UY20151019?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews)
White, rich, TX Christian Sharia fucking over poor women, which is what Christ would do.
boutons_deux
10-20-2015, 02:05 PM
Iowa Right To Life director: Contraception can’t decrease abortions because it has a ‘huge failure rate’
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/iowa-right-to-life-director-contraception-cant-decrease-abortions-because-it-has-a-huge-failure-rate/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
.... news from The Pro-birth Twilight Zone
boutons_deux
10-21-2015, 01:41 PM
Texas Eliminates Taxpayer Funding To Planned Parenthood Providers
Following the release of gruesome videos filmed at Planned Parenthood facilities, including Gulf Coast in Texas, Governor Greg Abbott announced his LIFE Initiative to provide greater protections for children in the womb and prevent the sale of baby body parts. Today, the Office of Inspector General at Texas Health and Human Services Commission issued a letter ending Medicaid participation for Planned Parenthood affiliates in the State of Texas based on evidence of Medicaid program violations. The cancellation, consistent with Governor Abbott’s LIFE initiative, calls for funding to Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers out of taxpayer money to be eliminated completely, both at the State and local levels.
“Texas has stepped forward and shown its unyielding commitment to both protecting life and providing women’s health services,” said Governor Abbott. “The gruesome harvesting of baby body parts by Planned Parenthood will not be allowed in Texas and the barbaric practice must be brought to an end. As such, ending the Medicaid participation of Planned Parenthood affiliates in the State of Texas is another step in providing greater access to safe healthcare for women while protecting our most vulnerable – the unborn.”
In the letter issued, the Office of Inspector General made the following points for ending enrollment in the Texas Medicaid program:
That Planned Parenthood and its affiliates are no longer capable of performing medical services in a professionally competent, safe, legal and ethical manner.
The termination of all Planned Parenthood affiliates will not affect access to care because there are thousands of alternate providers in Texas including federally qualified heath centers, Medicaid-certified rural health clinics, and other health care providers across the state that participate in the Texas Women’s Health Program and Medicaid.
The State of Texas requests cooperation in informing all clients and potential clients of alternatives where they can obtain Medicaid services from providers in good standing with the State.
http://gov.texas.gov/news/press-release/21560
100% slander and lies, just your typical TX Repug BULLSHIT and War on (Poor) Women
ElNono
10-21-2015, 04:50 PM
Defunded Planned Parenthood Reassures Supporters It Has Enough Fetus Cash To Keep Going
http://www.theonion.com/article/defunded-planned-parenthood-reassures-supporters-i-51662
spurraider21
10-21-2015, 05:55 PM
Defunded Planned Parenthood Reassures Supporters It Has Enough Fetus Cash To Keep Going
http://www.theonion.com/article/defunded-planned-parenthood-reassures-supporters-i-51662
:rollin
boutons_deux
10-22-2015, 04:56 PM
Abbott's Christian Taliban shock troops doin' the Lord's work
Texas officials raid Planned Parenthood health centers — but won’t say why
Texas officials raided several Planned Parenthood facilities on Thursday, the group said, in a move that comes days after the state’s Republicans leaders barred the women’s health group from receiving state Medicaid money.The raids were carried out at Planned Parenthood health centers in Houston, Dallas and San Antonio by representatives from the Texas Office of the Inspector General.
The Inspector General’s office declined to comment. Its agents were seen on local news reports entering a Planned Parenthood facility in San Antonio.
Texas Governor Greg Abbott said this week “the gruesome harvesting of baby body parts by Planned Parenthood will not be allowed,” :lol :lol :lol
but so far the state has released no evidence of illegal activity by the group. :lol :lol :lol
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/texas-officials-raid-planned-parenthood-health-centers-but-wont-say-why/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Texas and Texans are so fucked up
boutons_deux
10-23-2015, 01:31 PM
Texas officials raid several Planned Parenthood offices, demand addresses of employees (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/22/1437523/-Texas-officials-raid-several-Planned-Parenthood-offices-demand-addresses-of-employees)
Some of the information they were seeking is both bizarre and possibly dangerous for Planned Parenthood employees. From Planned Parenthood of the Texas Capital Region Chief Executive Officer Ken Lambrecht:
Lambrecht said Texas had requested what Planned Parenthood sees as unnecessary information such as the home addresses of all its employees as well as their salaries and bonuses.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/22/1437523/-Texas-officials-raid-several-Planned-Parenthood-offices-demand-addresses-of-employees?detail=email
Norwegians would say: That's Texas!
boutons_deux
10-23-2015, 08:21 PM
Texas Orders Health Clinics to Turn Over Patient Data
Some, but not all, of the extensive records sought by the state related specifically to abortion.
Planned Parenthood South Texas (https://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-south-texas) was told to produce five years of records — whether electronic, paper or ultrasound — concerning any patients billed to Medicaid who had an abortion in which any part of the fetus was removed or preserved for research use. Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast was to turn over a complete copy of certain patients’ records, including doctors’ orders, nursing notes and lab tests, as well as the center’s appointment books, patient sign-in sheets and contracts.
he said the state had determined that the group was “no longer capable of performing medical services in a professionally competent, safe, legal and ethical manner.”
the state had found a pattern of illegal billing practices that amounted to Medicaid fraud.
“This is a gross invasion of client privacy, and I’m tired of watching low-income women become collateral damage in attacks on Planned Parenthood that are based on deceptive videos and political grandstanding,” State Senator José Rodríguez,
But after Texas barred Planned Parenthood from participating in the state’s Women’s Health Program two years ago, a state health department report found that the program served 30,000 fewer women,
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/24/us/in-planned-parenthood-fight-texas-searches-records-unrelated-to-abortion.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
Violating patients' right to medical privacy OBVIOUSLY is meant to intimidate patients from visiting PP.
The Repug/Christian TALIBAN bringing their authoritarian jackboots down on PP and their patients on trumped up charges and bullshit videos the Repugs take as Bible truth.
boutons_deux
10-25-2015, 08:18 AM
GOP Ready For Another Defeat as Rep. Blackburn Will Lead Abortion Investigation
http://www.politicususa.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/blackburn-ftn.jpg
U.S. GOP Rep Marsha Blackburn (TN-7) will head a select investigative panel on “big abortion providers”.
House Speaker John Boehner announced on Friday that Blackburn would be tasked with the leading the inquiry.Boehner stated (http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2015/10/23/blackburn-to-lead-investigation-in-to-abortion-providers/74458398/):
Chairman Blackburn and our members will have the resources and the subpoena power to get to the bottom of these horrific practices, and build on our work to protect the sanctity of all human life.
As with the Benghazi investigation, Republicans attempted to describe the panel as embarking upon a fact-finding mission rather than a political witch hunt. Blackburn opined (http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2015/10/23/blackburn-to-lead-investigation-in-to-abortion-providers/74458398/):
This will be a broad-based, information gathering, fact finding mission to answer questions about how we treat and protect life in this country.
Despite her innocuous rhetoric, the panel will be stacked with right-wing anti choice zealots.
Blackburn will be joined on the committee by fellow GOP representatives (http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2015/10/23/blackburn-to-lead-investigation-in-to-abortion-providers/74458398/)
Larry Buschon (IN-8),
Andy Harris (MD-1),
Vicky Hartzler (MO-4),
Joe Pitts (PA-16),
Mia Love (UT-4) and
Sean Duffy (WI-7).
The Republicans do not seem to have learned any lessons from the thumping they took from Hillary Clinton during the Benghazi hearings. Rather than lick their wounds and devise a new political approach, they have decided to continue creating investigative panels to grill people they disagree with.
Republicans keep desperately hoping to manufacture a scandal that they can use to hurt liberals and Democrats.
Instead, however, the GOP is setting up another politically embarrassing inquest that will end up backfiring against them, much like the Benghazi panel boomeranged against the Republicans on Thursday.
Marsha Blackburn is an extremist and a “birther” (http://www.salon.com/2009/07/28/birther_enablers/), who isn’t known for her command of factual information, so putting her in charge of a fact-finding expedition is fraught with peril for the GOP.
The odds of the committee looking foolish are astronomically high with Blackburn at the helm.
If the definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results, then the House GOP must be regarded as insane. Just one day after getting humiliated in a marathon Benghazi hearing, the House has decided to launch an investigation against abortion providers. Good luck with that.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/10/24/gop-ready-defeat-rep-blackburn-lead-abortion-investigation.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29
So a vagina as chairperson, and two vaginas on the committee, supposedly to give credibility to the Repug scorched-earth War on Women, esp poor vaginas-of-color.
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Never heard of Marsha?
"Born Marsha Wedgeworth in Laurel, Mississippi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel,_Mississippi),[citation needed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)] she attended Mississippi State University (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_State_University), earning a B.S. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Science)[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsha_Blackburn#cite_note-CM-2) in home economics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_economics)" :lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsha_Blackburn
boutons_deux
10-30-2015, 03:57 PM
Bobby Jindal Defeated As Federal Judge Orders Him To Restore Planned Parenthood Funding
Bobby Jindal has suffered another defeat as a federal judge has ordered him to restore all funding to his state’s Planned Parenthood.According to The Times-Picayune (http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/10/planned_parenthood_injunction_1.html):
A federal judge has ordered Gov. Bobby Jindal’s administration to continue paying Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast’s Medicaid reimbursements for the foreseeable future.
On Wednesday, Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley was blocked from defunding Planned Parenthood in his state. The Planned Parenthood “issue” has been a total bust for the GOP. However, this fact won’t stop House Republicans from appointing another special committee to “investigate” Planned Parenthood.
The Republican Party is losing in federal court. They are losing in the court of public opinion, and they will lose at the ballot box if they continue these baseless attacks on Planned Parenthood.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/10/30/gov-bobby-jindal-ordered-federal-judge-restore-funding-planned-parenthood.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29
boutons_deux
11-23-2015, 08:07 PM
Federal court strikes down Wisconsin anti-abortion law similar to Texas statute
A Wisconsin law requiring doctors who perform abortions to have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital is unconstitutional, a U.S. appeals court ruled on Monday, addressing a topic the U.S. Supreme Court is considering during its current term.Abortion providers in Wisconsin had challenged the state law, which requires doctors to have privileges at a hospital within 30 miles (50 km). The law’s supporters said the measure ensures continuity of care while opponents say it serves almost no public health value and is intended to shut clinics.
A federal judge in March permanently blocked the Wisconsin law, ruling that the health benefits, if any, were outweighed by the burden on women’s health caused by restricted access to abortion.
The U.S. Supreme Court earlier in November agreed to take up a major abortion case for the first time since 2007. In that case, Texas abortion providers are challenging state requirements that they have admitting privileges and costly hospital-grade surgical facilities.
In the Wisconsin case, the 7th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals said a statute that curtails the constitutional right to an abortion, such as the Wisconsin and Texas laws, cannot withstand challenge without evidence that it is justified by benefits.
The evidence presented to the Texas legislature and discussed in the 5th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals was weak and was nonexistent in the Wisconsin case, Judge Richard Posner found in an opinion concurred in by Judge David Hamilton.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/federal-court-strikes-down-wisconsin-anti-abortion-law-similar-to-texas-statute/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
boutons_deux
11-23-2015, 08:08 PM
Planned Parenthood sues Texas over threat to cut Medicaid funding
Planned Parenthood, other women’s health providers and a group of women in need of reproductive healthcare sued Texas on Monday, seeking to halt its threatened cut in Medicaid funding, a move they said was more about politics than healthcare.
The suit filed in federal court in Austin comes as Texas and several other Republican-controlled states try to cut funding for Planned Parenthood after an anti-abortion group released videos it said showed Planned Parenthood officials negotiating prices for fetal tissues from abortions it performs.
“By cancelling Planned Parenthood’s Medicaid contract, these politicians are telling women where they can and cannot go for reproductive healthcare. And let’s be clear: That is illegal and it’s a violation of federal law,” Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, told a teleconference with reporters.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/planned-parenthood-sues-texas-over-threat-to-cut-medicaid-funding/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
boutons_deux
12-09-2015, 10:01 PM
RHRealitycheck Explains How Center For Medical Progress Is Desperate To Hide The Backers Behind Its Deceptive Planned Parenthood Videos
The anti-choice Center For Medical Progress (CMP) has secretly and possibly illegally recorded footage of abortion providers that was subsequently deceptively-edited (http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/08/31/a-comprehensive-guide-to-the-deceptively-edited/205264) to smear Planned Parenthood. The resulting videos have been heavily promoted (http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/07/22/fox-devoted-10-segments-in-one-day-to-hyping-ed/204541) by Fox news, which even went so far as to suggest CMP should qualify for a Pulitzer Prize (http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/08/26/fox-news-asks-if-discredited-anti-abortion-grou/205200).
However, CMP has been embroiled in a lawsuit (http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2015/11/23/legal-troubles-continue-group-attacking-planned-parenthood/) with the National Abortion Federation based in part on the violation of confidentiality agreements it signed in order to participate in NAF's conferences under false pretenses.
On December 9, RHRealitycheck's Imani Gandy reported on the lengths (http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2015/12/09/orchestrators-campaign-attack-planned-parenthood-legal-trouble-worth/?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=orchestrators-campaign-attack-planned-parenthood-legal-trouble-worth) CMP has gone to hide the funders and supporters of its campaign to smear Planned Parenthood, despite a court's determination that this information is necessary to determine if the anti-choice group was part of an illegal conspiracy.
[A]ny possibility that [Planned Parenthood] will be found to be in violation of policies regarding fetal tissue donation seems to be flickering out.
What remains, then, are questions about whether or not David Daleiden himself and the organizations he created--CMP and BioMax Procurement Services, the fake tissue procurement company--broke federal and state laws in connection with their crusade against Planned Parenthood, and who coordinated with Daleiden to perpetrate this alleged fraud.
These questions have been teed up in federal court in San Francisco, where a discovery battle has been raging between the National Abortion Federation (NAF) and Daleiden for several months.
"Discovery" is the process in litigation whereby parties to a lawsuit have to, essentially, lay their cards on the table and turn over information that the other side might need to support their claims or defense. And in the lawsuit that NAF filed against CMP, discovery is the process that could unravel a conspiracy involving multiple players all acting in concert to take down Planned Parenthood. Such players may include anti-choice extremists connected to groups like Live Action and Operation Rescue, in addition to some of the anti-choice politicians who jumped at the opportunity to hold congressional hearings and form investigative committees about Planned Parenthood's supposed dastardly deeds.
[...]
Within weeks of the first video release, NAF filed a lawsuit in federal court against CMP, BioMax, David Daleiden, Troy Newman (the founder of radical anti-choice extremist group Operation Rescue), and a number of thus far unidentified alleged other parties. Among other civil and criminal allegations, the lawsuit alleges a conspiracy to defraud NAF, perpetrated for the purpose of intimidating and harassing abortion care providers.
Days after NAF filed its lawsuit, it won a temporary restraining order (TRO) blocking CMP from releasing additional footage or other materials that NAF alleges CMP fraudulently acquired at NAF meetings. The judge who issued the temporary restraining order, William Orrick, also ordered CMP and Daleiden to provide responses to NAF's discovery requests: testimony, documents, and other evidence that NAF needs in order to prove its case that the temporary restraining order should be converted into a preliminary injunction continuing to block the video release.
The most important information sought by NAF is probably the video recordings themselves, many of which were surreptitiously recorded at private NAF events in violation of the explicit nondisclosure agreement that CMP members were required to sign before they could gain entrance into NAF's annual meetings in 2014 and 2015. The confidentiality agreements are one piece of an extensive security protocol that NAF put in place to protect attendees from anti-choice terrorism.
Daleiden and CMP maintain that the TRO and any preliminary injunction that the court might issue constitutes "prior restraint," or pre-publication censorship, in violation of the First Amendment. Daleiden believes that the confidentiality agreement that he signed is invalid because in his mind, NAF is an accomplice in Planned Parenthood's baby parts trafficking scheme.
NAF has countered, and thus far Judge Orrick seems to agree, that First Amendment rights can be waived by contract, which is exactly what Daleiden did.
And considering that no federal or state agency has found Planned Parenthood guilty of anything, Daleiden's continued insistence that he's an investigative journalist on a crusade to expose the illegal sale of aborted fetal tissue has begun to ring rather hollow.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/12/09/rhrealitycheck-explains-how-center-for-medical/207391
boutons_deux
12-19-2015, 09:41 AM
Judge: No evidence of crimes in recordings of abortion group
http://www.trbimg.com/img-5674a367/turbine/ct-fetal-tissue-planned-parenthood-video-persp-001/750/750x422
Recordings secretly made by an anti-abortion group at meetings of abortion providers do not show criminal activity and could put the providers at risk, a federal judge said Friday, citing the recent shooting at a Colorado Planned Parenthood (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/social-issues/planned-parenthood-ORNPR0000047-topic.html) clinic.
U.S. District Judge William Orrick made the comments during a hearing over the National Abortion Federation's request for a preliminary injunction that would continue to block the release of the recordings. Orrick did not immediately issue a ruling.
He previously issued a temporary restraining order blocking the recordings pending the outcome of the preliminary injunction hearing.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-planned-parenthood-center-for-medical-progress-20151218-story.html
boutons_deux
12-22-2015, 04:45 PM
Texas Boots Planned Parenthood from HIV Program
Texas just couldn’t end 2015 without one more jab at Planned Parenthood.
According to a press release from Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast (PPGC) in Houston, the Department of State Health Services (DSHS) did not renew the organization’s HIV Prevention Program funding for 2016. The program pays for HIV and STD education, counseling, screenings and other prevention services like condom distribution.
According to DSHS (https://www.dshs.state.tx.us/hivstd/reports/epiprofile/sec02.shtm), more than 80,000 Texans are living with HIV, and in 2014, more than 4,000 Texans were newly diagnosed with the virus.
Funding for the HIV Prevention Program comes from the federal Centers for Disease and Prevention (CDC), with Texas’ DSHS as the intermediary that funnels the money to community organizations. Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast received $600,000 to provide HIV screenings in the Houston area, including Harris, Galveston, Brazoria, Fort Bend and Montgomery counties.
According to the DSHS HIV Surveillance Report, 1,289 Harris County residents were diagnosed with HIV in 2014, the highest number of new cases that year across all 254 counties.
PPGC began providing HIV screenings 28 years ago and received a state grant to do so. The grant expires on December 31, 2015. Come January 1, 2016, the organization will no longer provide HIV screenings.
In a statement released today, PPGC CEO and president Melaney Linton called the news “devastating.”
“Our HIV Prevention Program team has tested tens of thousands of people in jails, bars, night clubs, college campuses and many other places across our service area,” she said. “The team helped people overcome their anxieties to get tested and learn their HIV status, and educated them on reducing their risk exposure.”
Requests for comment from DSHS and the CDC were not immediately returned.
Planned Parenthood officials said the organization will still provide STD testings at its health centers.
http://www.texasobserver.org/texas-boots-planned-parenthood-from-hiv-program/
TX Repugs, TX Bible humpers are really nasty, vicious motherfuckers
boutons_deux
12-23-2015, 09:56 AM
Despite Soaring Support for Abortion Rights, Anti-Choice Crusade Continues
New poll conducted in wake of deadly attack on Planned Parenthood clinic finds public support for abortion rights at highest point in two years
Public support for legal abortion in the United States is at its highest point in two years, with nearly six out of ten people backing the reproductive right, according to a new poll (http://ap-gfkpoll.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/AP-GfK_Poll_December-2015-Final-topline_abortion1.pdf)(pdf) conducted in the wake of last month's mass shooting at a Colorado Planned Parenthood clinic that killed three people.
The Associated Press and GfK, which jointly conducted the survey, found that 58 percent of respondents say abortion should be legal in "most or all" cases. This marks a jump from 51 percent at the beginning of the year. The poll is based on surveys of 1,007 adults conducted in early December, with a margin of error of plus or minus 3.4 percentage points.
Notably, the hike reflects an incremental rise in support among respondents who identify as Republican, with 40 percent backing legal abortion, up from 35 percent in January. Seventy-six percent of Democrats responded in the affirmative, compared to 54 percent of Independents.
during 2015 alone, state legislatures introduced nearly 400 bills and implemented 47 new laws restricting reproductive rights.
In many cases, state laws hike the costs, and slash access, to abortions, disproportionately impacting low-income communities and people of color. For example, 11 U.S. states restrict most coverage of abortion care in government insurance plans, according to a separate Guttmacher brief (http://www.guttmacher.org/statecenter/spibs/spib_OAL.pdf) released earlier this month. And Targeted Regulation of Abortion Providers (TRAP) laws—now in effect in 25 states—impose prohibitive requirements on providers, cutting off access.
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/12/22/despite-soaring-support-abortion-rights-anti-choice-crusade-continues
So, if you pro-birthers have the money, you can get any abortion, any time. So the Christian Taliban war on abortion is above all a war on poor women "breeding" or just having sex.
boutons_deux
12-23-2015, 12:14 PM
Yes, Chelsea Clinton can be a pro-choice mom: Anti-choicers blast the “abortion supporter” for being happy about her pregnancy
But in the anti-choice mindset, being pro-choice and wanting a child cannot coexist, even though, according to The Guttmacher Institute (https://www.guttmacher.org/in-the-know/characteristics.html), “Six in 10 American women having an abortion already have a child, and more than three in 10 already have two or more children.”
One antiabortion advocate even asked NARAL Pro-Choice America (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/fighting-for-abortion-rights-with-twins-on-the-way/2015/06/07/72e506b6-0a04-11e5-95fd-d580f1c5d44e_story.html) President Ilyse Hogue “Is that real?” when Hogue attended a hearing on Capitol Hill, visibly pregnant (with twins). Hogue told The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/fighting-for-abortion-rights-with-twins-on-the-way/2015/06/07/72e506b6-0a04-11e5-95fd-d580f1c5d44e_story.html), “[M]y personal experience and my gratitude and relief in choosing to become a mother and being supported in that just makes me feel so much more strongly that other people should have the same support.”
Anti-choice activists expect women to know in advance exactly how they will deal with a pregnancy, based on their politics, and can’t grasp that a wanted, welcomed pregnancy will likely feel completely different for a woman like Chelsea Clinton than an unwanted one. Reactions on Twitter implied that Clinton and her parents, Bill and Hillary Clinton, shouldn’t be excited about this pregnancy because they are also in favor of abortion rights.
http://www.salon.com/2015/12/23/yes_chelsea_clinton_can_be_a_pro_choice_mom_anti_c hoicers_blast_the_abortion_supporter_for_being_hap py_about_her_pregnancy/
and Fox thinks the timing of the birth fits in with her mother's campaign.
Nbadan
01-16-2016, 05:18 AM
David Daleiden, the mastermind behind the debunked and now possibly criminal Planned Parenthood videos, got slapped with a federal lawsuit by Planned Parenthood this Thursday in San Francisco.
The lawsuit includes compensatory and punitive damages for what Planned Parenthood has suffered since the video release, as well as attorney fees. Beth Parker, a Planned Parenthood lawyer, did not comment on how much money would be sought but indicated that the amount would include extra money spent since the release of the videos for increased clinic security.
Daleiden and his organization, the Center For Medical Progress, are responsible for publishing completely fake videos that suggest Planned Parenthood illegally sells fetal body parts for cash. The videos provided a mountain of fodder for Republican outrage in 2015, resulting in wasted hearings, time, and money. There have also been some accusations that the videos causing increased violence at Planned Parenthood clinics, and a mass shooting.
The lawsuit accused the Center For Medical Progress and a fake company called “Biomax” of violating the RICO Act, committing fraud, invasion of privacy, illegal recording and trespassing. David Daleiden, Troy Newman, and a group of other individuals used forged government ID’s to gain entry to private conferences where they secretly recorded conversations with Planned Parenthood employees. Afterward, the group took the recorded conversations, cut and combined them together out of context with fake footage to make the now infamous videos.
RICO, mail fraud, identity theft, sham corporations, lying on incorporation papers filed with CA SOS, using fake names, fake CA driver's licenses, credit card fraud, lying on contracts, and doing so in multiple US jurisdictions and so on.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/01/15/the-lying-btard-behind-the-fake-planned-parenthood-videos-gets-slapped-with-federal-lawsuit/
boutons_deux
01-19-2016, 02:20 PM
Supreme Court Won’t Hear Arkansas Case Challenging ‘Roe’
The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesdayturned away a request (http://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/011916zor_l5gm.pdf) by anti-choice lawmakers to review an Arkansas law that bans abortion at 12 weeks of pregnancy with narrow exceptions, letting stand an appellate court ruling striking the measure as unconstitutional.
Arkansas’ SB 134 (http://data.rhrealitycheck.org/law/arkansas-human-heartbeat-protection-act/), known as the “Arkansas Heartbeat Protection Act,” outlaws abortion when a fetal heartbeat has been detected—which can be as early as six weeks’ gestation—and at 12 weeks, with narrow exceptions for the life of the pregnant person, cases of rape or incest, and those that involve a “lethal fetal disorder.”
The law, considered to be among the most radically restrictive in the nation, has been blocked by a federal judge since March 2014 (http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2014/05/29/arkansas-tells-federal-appeals-court-12-week-abortion-ban-constitutional/). Attorneys for the state urged the Roberts Court to take the case anyway, arguing the time was right for the Court to review the “rigid” viability framework put in place by Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey that prevents states from banning abortions prior to fetal viability.
http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2016/01/19/supreme-court-wont-hear-arkansas-case-challenging-roe/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rhrealitycheck+%28RH+Reality+ Check%29
boutons_deux
01-22-2016, 01:57 PM
Repugalism in action
Here's what happened to women after a new law closed half of Texas's abortion clinics
we have some research about what happened to abortion access after that:
women forced to delay (http://www.reproductiverights.org/press-room/new-research-reveals-devastating-impact-of-clinic-shutdown-laws-on-texas-women) their abortion procedures due to longer waits for appointments at overburdened clinics,
fewer women (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/07/24/report-abortions-down-13-percent-in-texas-after-strict-limits-went-into-effect-in-november/) getting clinical abortions overall, and at least
some women taking matters into their own hands by self-inducing (http://www.vox.com/2015/11/17/9750930/texas-abortion-self-induced) at home.
The study found women had to wait and have a later abortion, or couldn't get an abortion at all
Abortion providers tell harrowing stories of what happened after HB2 passed
"The first week after the law changed, we started seeing an increase in patients who had tried something to end their pregnancy before coming to the clinic," said Tenesha Duncan, administrator of the Southwestern Women's Surgery Center in Dallas.
"That week, a doctor found parsley in a patient’s vagina. I’ve also talked to patients who were distraught and suicidal because they couldn’t access the abortion care they needed."
http://www.vox.com/2016/1/21/10808706/women-texas-abortion-hb2-clinics-study
Just another BIG FUCKING THANKS, TX Bible-humping racist Repugs.
boutons_deux
01-25-2016, 12:50 PM
Supreme Court Won’t Revive Radical Six-Week Abortion Ban
The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday refused (http://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/012516zor_p8k0.pdf) to revive a North Dakota law that would ban abortion as early as six weeks into pregnancy, letting stand a federal appeals court decision (http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2015/07/22/federal-court-blocks-north-dakota-heartbeat-ban-calls-supreme-court-overturn-roe/) striking it as unconstitutional.
At issue is HB 1456 (http://data.rhrealitycheck.org/law/north-dakota-human-heartbeat-protection-act/), signed into law by Republican Gov. Jack Dalrymple in March 2013. The measure bans abortions as soon as a fetal heartbeat can be detected, which can be as early as six weeks post-fertilization.
The law contains a very narrow exception for when the life or health of the patient is in danger, and subjects any provider who violates it to felony criminal charges.
http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2016/01/25/supreme-court-wont-revive-radical-six-week-abortion-ban/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rhrealitycheck+%28RH+Reality+ Check%29
boutons_deux
01-25-2016, 05:18 PM
Grand Jury Indicts Abortion Foes Behind Undercover Videos
A Harris County grand jury on Monday indicted the videographers behind undercover recordings of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Houston and cleared the clinic of any wrongdoing.
The indictments — part of the county prosecutor's’ investigation into allegations that Planned Parenthood was illegally selling fetal tissue — include charges against anti-abortion activists David Daleiden and Sandra Merritt for tampering with a governmental record. The grand jury handed down a second charge for Daleiden for “Prohibition of the Purchase and Sale of Human Organs.”
The grand jury cleared Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast in Houston of any wrongdoing.
State Republican leaders last year pushed for investigations into Planned Parenthood after videos were released depicting Planned Parenthood officials across the nation discussing how their providers obtain fetal tissue for medical research.
Among the undercover videos were recordings of staff (http://www.texastribune.org/2015/07/27/anti-abortion-group-visited-planned-parenthood-hou/) at Houston-based Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, where two abortion foes in April misrepresented themselves as research executives and provided fake California drivers’ licenses.
http://www.texastribune.org/2016/01/25/grand-jury-indicts-abortion-foes-behind-undercover/?mc_cid=e33c403fcc&mc_eid=d070f58998
Spurminator
01-25-2016, 06:18 PM
Man, I'd sure be embarrassed by now if I had posted this thread.
boutons_deux
01-25-2016, 08:22 PM
Planned Parenthood Sues CMP Over Undercover Videos
Planned Parenthood filed a federal lawsuit against the Center for Medical Progress Thursday over its release of undercover videos that exposed the non-profit’s dealings in fetal tissue parts.
The series of videos “did their intended damage,” reads the formal complaint (http://ppfa.pr-optout.com/ViewAttachment.aspx?EID=mr9WXYw4u2IxYnni1dBRVsyFeJ IuuWQv%2btbEt05Givo%3d), which alleges CMP and it’s project lead David Daleiden violated federal law and laws in three states, including secret taping and trespassing in the course of its years-long investigation.
“Millions of people who viewed the manipulated videos and inflammatory accusations were made to believe that Planned Parenthood had violated the law and acted improperly,” adds the complaint.
CMP obtained the footage of Planned Parenthood (http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/10/key-points-from-the-first-9-planned-parenthood-videos/) executives and top doctors during a 3-year-investigation, and alleges Planned Parenthood is illegally profiting from the sale of harvested fetuses. Planned Parenthood denies the allegations and quickly accused CMP of doctoring the videos.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/14/planned-parenthood-sues-cmp-over-undercover-videos/
boutons_deux
01-25-2016, 08:41 PM
Abbott, totally bitch slapped, says The Great Repug State of Christian Texas will continue its investigation of PP.
RandomGuy
01-26-2016, 10:30 AM
Man, I'd sure be embarrassed by now if I had posted this thread.
Clipper Nation, along with many on the right, have little shame when it comes to lying for political points. IMO.
For them, reality appears to have a liberal bias. :lol
Blake
01-26-2016, 10:35 AM
Man, I'd sure be embarrassed by now if I had posted this thread.
Lol
Clipper Nation
Blake
01-26-2016, 10:37 AM
First of all, if dead babies' tissues are apparently viable enough to harvest and sell, then that blows up almost any rationalization for abortion, does it not?
Second of all, the fact that our taxpayer money is going to a bunch of people who casually discuss crushing babies' organs like they're making small talk about the weather is disgusting.
Lol
boutons_deux
01-27-2016, 03:01 PM
Three Big Lies From Conservatives About The Planned Parenthood Case
1) Daleiden Is A Journalist
Following news of the indictments, Daleiden called himself an "investigative journalist (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/anti-planned-parenthood-activist-david-daleiden-gets-indicted-anti-choice-movement-still-fee)," tweeting (https://twitter.com/daviddaleiden/status/692149979616514048) that Planned Parenthood's local affiliate is "trying to jail investigative journalism." (Never mind that it was actually an anti-Planned Parenthood politician who launched the probe that ensnared him).
Sorry, but Daleiden isn't exactly aiming for a Pulitzer.
For starters, CMP did not originally describe itself (http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/01/26/what-you-need-to-know-about-indicted-anti-choic/208183)as a journalistic outlet. It was only around the time the group started releasing its videos that it updated its website's “About Us” page to say that it was comprised of "citizen journalists."
2) Indictment Proves Planned Parenthood Was Selling Human Tissue
Anti-choice activists have jumped on the misdemeanor charge that Daleiden faces for attempting to purchase human organs, saying that the charge in turn proves that Planned Parenthood was selling organs.
The Resurgent, a right-wing blog, called the charge a "gift" to the anti-choice movement because it "proves (http://theresurgent.com/a-harris-county-grand-jury-has-given-the-pro-life-movement-a-huge-gift/)" that Planned Parenthood was selling tissue all along.
This is a big distortion of the case.
Daleiden did send Planned Parenthood an email asking to purchase fetal tissue for $1,600.
However, Planned Parenthood never responded to his offer (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/01/26/the-charges-against-anti-planned-parenthood-filmmaker-explained/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_planned-parenthhod-charges-120pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory)... because Planned Parenthood doesn't sell fetal tissue.
3) Planned Parenthood-Linked Attorney 'Tainted' The Investigation
Surprised by the indictments and still unable to prove that Planned Parenthood committed any wrongdoings, now anti-choice activists are contending that the district attorney's office that brought the grand jury investigation must be at fault. After all, the grand jury didn't accept the movement's narrative that, as Ted Cruz put it, Planned Parenthood "confesses to multiple felonies (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/09/second-republican-debate-reproductive-rights)."
The conservative outlet the Federalist thought it found quite the scoop when it reported (http://thefederalist.com/2016/01/25/houston-grand-indicts-david-daleiden-for-organ-trafficking-issues-no-charges-against-planned-parenthood/)that one of the prosecutors working in the district attorney's office was a local Planned Parenthood board member, posting an image of her LinkedIn page as damning evidence of misconduct.
Jay Sekulow of the American Center for Law and Justice, the conservative legal group founded by televangelist Pat Robertson, said that the case may been "tainted (http://www.lifenews.com/2016/01/26/planned-parenthood-board-member-works-in-office-of-d-a-who-indicted-david-daleiden/)" by this alleged "conflict of interest."
Except that the assistant district attorney in question had nothing to do with the investigation, and she personally revealed her connection to the organization at the very beginning of the inquiry. No LinkedIn screenshot was needed, as a simple Google search would do.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/three-big-lies-conservatives-about-planned-parenthood-case
Winehole23
01-28-2016, 09:42 AM
debunking lies and media hoaxes is less effective than the lies and hoaxes themselves.
for example, people on this board were still railing at ACORN years after O'Keefe's video hoax prompted the US Congress to withdraw funding, putting it out of business. a similar dynamic obtains here.
boutons_deux
01-28-2016, 10:18 AM
The fundamental strategy of VRWC/Fox/Regugs/rightwing hate media/Christian Taliban, totally composed of lies, propaganda, slander, straw men.
Besides, as the vilest Writer has his Readers, so the greatest Liar has his Believers;
and it often happens, that if a Lie be believ’d only for an Hour, it has done its Work, and there is no farther occasion for it.
Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it; so that when Men come to be undeceiv’d, it is too late; the Jest is over, and the Tale has had its Effect…
-- Jonathan Swift, 1710
boutons_deux
01-28-2016, 04:06 PM
just like Repug politicians, rightwingnuts still believe ACORN was up to all kinds of bullshit, CarLIE Fiorina and everybody else on the right still say PP sells baby parts, including the Repug Klowns.
boutons_deux
01-28-2016, 04:13 PM
This Prosecutor Gave the Perfect Answer to People Defending the Anti-Abortion Activists Behind Those Deceptive Videos
Since the indictments, district attorney Devon Anderson has faced an onslaught of criticism from the anti-abortion movement about both the severity of the charges—one is a felony — and a department employee's affiliation with Planned Parenthood.
Today, in a video on KHOU (http://www.khou.com/videos/news/local/2016/01/27/harris-county-da-devon-anderson-gives-statement-on-planned-parenthood-indictments/79436706/), a Houston TV network, Anderson explained why her office indicted David Daleiden and Susan Merritt. Even though the decision goes against her opinions on abortion, she says, it follows the law.
"An inconvenient truth of a criminal investigation is that it doesn't always lead where you want to go," Anderson says at the start of the video. "Anyone who pays attention knows that I'm pro-life. I believe abortion is wrong. But my personal belief does not relieve me of my obligation to follow the law."
Anderson dispels some of the misconceptions that have sprung up about her office's decision.
For example, defense attorneys have argued that charging both Daleiden and Merritt with a felony for using fake driver's licenses is too extreme, because young people caught with fake ids often receive a misdemeanor charge. But Anderson explains that in Texas, using a fake ID from another state is a felony. "That's the law," she says.
Anderson also addresses the allegation—repeatedly emphasized (http://www.lifenews.com/2016/01/26/planned-parenthood-board-member-works-in-office-of-d-a-who-indicted-david-daleiden/) by the anti-abortion news site LifeNews—that a prosecutor in her department who is involved with the Planned Parenthood board actively participated in the presentation of this case to the grand jury. "That is simply not true," she says.
She noted that soon after the lieutenant governor asked her department to review this case in August, this particular prosecutor made her relationship to Planned Parenthood known, and the department issued a press release saying she would not be involved in the case.
Some defense attorneys have asked for another grand jury to review the case. Anderson says she won't do that, because it constitutes "grand jury shopping."
"That violates the integrity of the whole system," she says. "Twelve Harris County citizens have spoken, and I respect their decision."
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2016/01/republican-pro-life-texas-prosecutor-calls-out-anti-abortion-movements-crap
damn, she really bitchslapped all you rightwingnuts, lovers of O'Keefe/CMP.
FuzzyLumpkins
01-28-2016, 04:20 PM
debunking lies and media hoaxes is less effective than the lies and hoaxes themselves.
for example, people on this board were still railing at ACORN years after O'Keefe's video hoax prompted the US Congress to withdraw funding, putting it out of business. a similar dynamic obtains here.
Obtains here? I think you don't like me because I am the more compelling pedant.
The scale is a bit different in this instance and the GOP was still trying to figure out how Obama got elected not once but twice. That was also the time period where they tried to create a string of web sites made to look like rural radio stations.
Planned parenthood and the women's movement is a bit better organized and rabid than ACORN.
boutons_deux
01-28-2016, 05:48 PM
GOP won’t drop crusade against Planned Parenthood
The editorial board of the Washington Post argued (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/planned-parenthood-has-been-absolved-the-gop-should-give-up-its-crusade/2016/01/26/49803df4-c462-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html) that it’s time for the GOP to “give up its crusade” against Planned Parenthood. The Huffington Post reported yesterday, however, that congressional Republicans are “determined to push on (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/planned-parenthood-indictments-republican-investigation_us_56a8e604e4b0f71799288be7).”
Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), who is chairing a select investigative committee that purports to be investigating “big abortion providers” – but for all intents and purposes is only scrutinizing Planned Parenthood – said in a statement Tuesday that “the mission of our investigation has not changed.” […]
Blackburn’s committee was created even as other Republicans, like Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), said they didn’t find any evidence of wrongdoing on the provider’s part. Multiple state investigations have come to similar conclusions.
GOP lawmakers’ reluctance to accept the evidence as it exists seems unsustainable.
it’s not just the Texas grand jury that cleared Planned Parenthood of any wrongdoing. At last count,
11 states – Kansas, Florida, Ohio, Washington, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Indiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, and South Dakota – launched official investigations into the organization’s work.
Each of the 11 probes reached the same conclusion: Planned Parenthood did not illegally sell fetal tissue.
Other states considered investigations, but chose not to move forward due to lack of evidence.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/gop-wont-drop-crusade-against-planned-parenthood?cid=sm_fb_maddow
Repugs pandering to the Christian Taliban, NO MATTER WHAT.
admiralsnackbar
01-28-2016, 06:52 PM
Obtains here? I think you don't like me because I am the more compelling pedant. The scale is a bit different in this instance and the GOP was still trying to figure out how Obama got elected not once but twice. That was also the time period where they tried to create a string of web sites made to look like rural radio stations. Planned parenthood and the women's movement is a bit better organized and rabid than ACORN. Why do you think Wino is competing with you, Fuzzy? His point was simply that the hoaxes are proving increasingly more politically meaningful than the inevitable reasoned debunking that follows them. As to scale... you're right to say pro-choice activism is more focused and organized, but you can only take out Planned Parenthood if you take out legislators that would defend it, and destroying ACORN was a useful step in flipping some seats in favor of conservative Christian lawmakers.
FuzzyLumpkins
01-28-2016, 07:13 PM
Why do you think Wino is competing with you, Fuzzy? His point was simply that the hoaxes are proving increasingly more politically meaningful than the inevitable reasoned debunking that follows them. As to scale... you're right to say pro-choice activism is more focused and organized, but you can only take out Planned Parenthood if you take out legislators that would defend it, and destroying ACORN was a useful step in flipping some seats in favor of conservative Christian lawmakers.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197878&page=90&p=8397197&viewfull=1#post8397197
FuzzyLumpkins
01-28-2016, 07:16 PM
Why do you think Wino is competing with you, Fuzzy? His point was simply that the hoaxes are proving increasingly more politically meaningful than the inevitable reasoned debunking that follows them. As to scale... you're right to say pro-choice activism is more focused and organized, but you can only take out Planned Parenthood if you take out legislators that would defend it, and destroying ACORN was a useful step in flipping some seats in favor of conservative Christian lawmakers.
As to the topic, ACORN was under indictment. PP is exonerated and these guys are getting indicted in multiple states. Sure GOP tactics are to marginalize but the women's right plurality is a bit different than an inner city minority voting rights initiative.
Blake
01-28-2016, 07:16 PM
debunking lies and media hoaxes is less effective than the lies and hoaxes themselves.
for example, people on this board were still railing at ACORN years after O'Keefe's video hoax prompted the US Congress to withdraw funding, putting it out of business. a similar dynamic obtains here.
If you mean "it's too late, damage is done" I concur
admiralsnackbar
01-28-2016, 07:50 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197878&page=90&p=8397197&viewfull=1#post8397197 People here correct one another all the time, don't they? I don't see the dickishness you're getting from that, but maybe it's just me -- don't come here often enough to recognize ongoing beefs between posters. Anyway, sorry for the OT.
FuzzyLumpkins
01-28-2016, 08:00 PM
People here correct one another all the time, don't they? I don't see the dickishness you're getting from that, but maybe it's just me -- don't come here often enough to recognize ongoing beefs between posters. Anyway, sorry for the OT.
Sure but whenever I get into serious God threads like the one Pheno finally bowed out of wine starts taking shots at me.
He hates me. He has so much as told me reasons why. He calls me a pompous ass and then nitpicks in my response to my inquiries of the above. Thus my claims of irony.
admiralsnackbar
01-28-2016, 08:00 PM
As to the topic, ACORN was under indictment. PP is exonerated and these guys are getting indicted in multiple states. Sure GOP tactics are to marginalize but the women's right plurality is a bit different than an inner city minority voting rights initiative. The point still stands, doesn't it? ACORN's indictment was created by a laughable scam. PP's attempted indictment is being defended as ACORN's should have been (because the think-tanks employed to defend such crises figured out a response). Not disputing a difference between voter registration activism and reproductive rights movement, just suggesting there's an order of operations that requires one cause be dismantled before the next. Also agreeing with the idea that the political damage is done by the splashy headline, not the intellectual dissection of said headline's lack of merit.
admiralsnackbar
01-28-2016, 08:10 PM
Sure but whenever I get into serious God threads like the one Pheno finally bowed out of wine starts taking shots at me. He hates me. He has so much as told me reasons why. He calls me a pompous ass and then nitpicks in my response to my inquiries of the above. Thus my claims of irony. Ah... if we weren't assholes, we wouldn't be debating politics angrily and (hopefully) anonymously on a basketball bulletin board. We're ALL pedantic assholes here, dude, and the result of being a "compelling pedant," as you say, amounts to a big bowl of dicks in the end. Just take it from a middle-aged asshole who wasted too much time in places like this once: 5 years from now you will wonder why you ever gave a shit that people were stupid or wrong, or what they were stupid and wrong about. Don't take any of this personally -- it's as substantive as a dumb conversation at a bar.
boutons_deux
01-28-2016, 08:11 PM
Benghazi! no evidence! (but there's a documentary movie that's bombing that proves Hillary was LYING!)
email!
ACORN! STING, FRAUD. Dems shit the bed and voted to kill ACORN!
PP "selling baby parts"! FALSE
What Great Way to fuck up a country.
Thanks, Repugs! The country is your bloody, shitty hands.
boutons_deux
01-28-2016, 08:30 PM
this CarLIE nut is completely unhinged
Fiorina On Planned Parenthood Case: Clinton Hasn't Been Indicted, Either
Former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina said Thursday at the Republican presidential debate that the justice system had failed to indict Planned Parenthood executives, just as it failed to indict Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton in the saga over her private email server.
"You know, Hillary Clinton hasn't been indicted either," Fiorina responded. "So that tells us a lot about our justice system in this country. But, look, the facts of Planned Parenthood have not changed, folks, and I will not be rendered silent on this issue or any other issue and it doesn't matter what stage I'm on."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fiorina-planned-parenthood-hillary-clinton?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29
FuzzyLumpkins
01-28-2016, 08:38 PM
The point still stands, doesn't it? ACORN's indictment was created by a laughable scam. PP's attempted indictment is being defended as ACORN's should have been (because the think-tanks employed to defend such crises figured out a response). Not disputing a difference between voter registration activism and reproductive rights movement, just suggesting there's an order of operations that requires one cause be dismantled before the next. Also agreeing with the idea that the political damage is done by the splashy headline, not the intellectual dissection of said headline's lack of merit.
The tactic won't work is my point. NOW and other groups are entrenched and relatively powerful. The GOP does attempt to marginalize through the courts and press routinely. Our last two governors are a shining example of that.
What you are making is some slippery slope initiation scenario and that doesn't make sense. The GOP dixiecrat types have been doing that since the Civil War.
FuzzyLumpkins
01-28-2016, 08:42 PM
Ah... if we weren't assholes, we wouldn't be debating politics angrily and (hopefully) anonymously on a basketball bulletin board. We're ALL pedantic assholes here, dude, and the result of being a "compelling pedant," as you say, amounts to a big bowl of dicks in the end. Just take it from a middle-aged asshole who wasted too much time in places like this once: 5 years from now you will wonder why you ever gave a shit that people were stupid or wrong, or what they were stupid and wrong about. Don't take any of this personally -- it's as substantive as a dumb conversation at a bar.
Repeating my point on the irony and directing it at me instead is fun I guess. I'm not whining about people being not nice around here. I think you misunderstand what I think this place is. If you want to look at it as a bar then go ahead. It's a sports forum's political board. I don't need a similie to define it.
admiralsnackbar
01-28-2016, 08:57 PM
Repeating my point on the irony and directing it at me instead is fun I guess. :lol Wha? I was making a universal point that smeared the lot of us to dismiss the drama, you (or at least I understood you to be saying so) were dismissing a seemingly valid general point made by WH as a personal attack. Chill, dude -- nobody's attacking or gas-lighting you. Anyway, I'm going to follow my own advice and step out before I'm accused of worse. Cheerio.
admiralsnackbar
01-28-2016, 09:02 PM
What you are making is some slippery slope initiation scenario and that doesn't make sense. The GOP dixiecrat types have been doing that since the Civil War. If you're going to make such a statement, you should unpack it to explain what you're on about. But don't bother on this count, because I'm getting the impression you just want to be pissed at somebody, regardless of where they stand. Saludos.
FuzzyLumpkins
01-28-2016, 10:28 PM
:lol Wha? I was making a universal point that smeared the lot of us to dismiss the drama, you (or at least I understood you to be saying so) were dismissing a seemingly valid general point made by WH as a personal attack. Chill, dude -- nobody's attacking or gas-lighting you. Anyway, I'm going to follow my own advice and step out before I'm accused of worse. Cheerio.
:lol If you want to act obtuse to what I said about the back and forth prior to this then go ahead. I'm not angry at anyone. Quit projecting.
FuzzyLumpkins
01-28-2016, 10:30 PM
If you're going to make such a statement, you should unpack it to explain what you're on about. But don't bother on this count, because I'm getting the impression you just want to be pissed at somebody, regardless of where they stand. Saludos.
Unpack what? The tactics of the southern dems who came over to the GOP with Nixon?
You are the one making the claim anyway. I just pointed out that this type of thing has been going on for centuries. I don't need to unpack anything when you have not addressed anything directly.
FuzzyLumpkins
01-28-2016, 10:40 PM
And this is just rich. I get lectured about how everyone here is an adversarial jerk as its a political forum and how I should not take it personally.
When I say that he had recently called me a pompous ass and that is my entire point to begin with you act incredulous get mad and then tell me I am unreasonable?
TeyshaBlue
01-28-2016, 10:40 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/teyshablue/56747152_zpsncrkmjug.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/teyshablue/media/56747152_zpsncrkmjug.jpg.html)
admiralsnackbar
01-29-2016, 12:33 AM
And this is just rich. I get lectured about how everyone here is an adversarial jerk as its a political forum and how I should not take it personally. When I say that he had recently called me a pompous ass and that is my entire point to begin with you act incredulous get mad and then tell me I am unreasonable? Wait... Wino called you a pompous ass for pointing out your misspelling of tenet? Forget the avuncular lecture... you're maybe a dick. Sorry I lectured you on other people being dicks... it may just be you. Honestly... what's your problem? Sorry if my condescending similes fall short :lol Hijo de su... thanks for reminding me this board is a nest of venomous, bat-shit twats. Fucking hell! Adieu, puto :lol
FuzzyLumpkins
01-29-2016, 01:02 AM
Wait... Wino called you a pompous ass for pointing out your misspelling of tenet? Forget the avuncular lecture... you're maybe a dick. Sorry I lectured you on other people being dicks... it may just be you. Honestly... what's your problem? Sorry if my condescending similes fall short :lol Hijo de su... thanks for reminding me this board is a nest of venomous, bat-shit twats. Fucking hell! Adieu, puto :lol
You admit to being condescending but when I come back the same I get this?
Nice meltdown though.
FuzzyLumpkins
01-29-2016, 01:03 AM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/teyshablue/56747152_zpsncrkmjug.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/teyshablue/media/56747152_zpsncrkmjug.jpg.html)
:lol sup TB. :bobo
Winehole23
01-29-2016, 03:44 AM
If you're going to make such a statement, you should unpack it to explain what you're on about. But don't bother on this count, because I'm getting the impression you just want to be pissed at somebody, regardless of where they stand. Saludos.Argumentative. We all are I guess, but we don't all equally succumb to dickishness.
Some posters won't even let you agree. Boutons is the absolute worst on this count.
Winehole23
01-29-2016, 03:47 AM
People here correct one another all the time, don't they? I don't see the dickishness you're getting from that, but maybe it's just me -- don't come here often enough to recognize ongoing beefs between posters. Anyway, sorry for the OT.Fuzzy personalizes everything.
That's not peculiar to his trend of posting -- it's rather common.
Winehole23
01-29-2016, 03:52 AM
Some posters won't even let you agree. Boutons is the absolute worst on this count.total aside, but if there were a taboo in this sub-region of ST -- and there very nearly is -- it's agreeing with other posters openly.
Winehole23
01-29-2016, 03:59 AM
the reluctance is totally understandable however, agreement is expressed in words far less frequently than it occurs.
Winehole23
01-29-2016, 04:03 AM
agreement is tacit, controversy is loud.
agreement is underrated because it doesn't make as much noise.
Winehole23
01-29-2016, 04:08 AM
....
Winehole23
01-29-2016, 04:20 AM
If you mean "it's too late, damage is done" I concura lie goes around the world six times before the truth gets out of bed and ties its shoes, or something like that
Winehole23
01-29-2016, 04:38 AM
pace, Fuzzy, on correcting the tenant/tenet malaprop.
be real: you didn't misspell it. you used the wrong word.
it isn't personal -- it happened far less frequently in the past, so it bothers me more now.
FuzzyLumpkins
01-29-2016, 04:45 AM
Argumentative. We all are I guess, but we don't all equally succumb to dickishness.
Some posters won't even let you agree. Boutons is the absolute worst on this count.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGcjrN7X7Rc
FuzzyLumpkins
01-29-2016, 05:02 AM
pace, Fuzzy, on correcting the tenant/tenet malaprop.
be real: you didn't misspell it. you used the wrong word.
it isn't personal -- it happened far less frequently in the past, so it bothers me more now.
those damn homonyms. it's quibbling over semantics; how droll. my interest is in clear communication not in who communicates 'correctly.'
you were just commenting on how I personalize everything. Then you surreptitiously claim what you do is not personal. Claim that I'm pompous and then come at me with base pedantry.
you are talking to me directly and criticizing me. what a pathetic smear campaign.
you're very obviously being unreasonable when you say it's not personal. Your sentence structure indicates a direct comment on me. you've gone straight ad hominem on several accounts besides. you likely get reflexively mad when you read my posts.
admiralsnackbar
01-29-2016, 05:17 AM
Argumentative. We all are I guess, but we don't all equally succumb to dickishness. Some posters won't even let you agree. Boutons is the absolute worst on this count. Why you pickin' on me, dick? :lol
Blake
01-29-2016, 08:53 AM
Why you pickin' on me, dick? :lol
http://1un1ba2fg8v82k48vu4by3q7.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Admiral-Ackbar-Its-A-Trap-300x161.jpg
Winehole23
01-30-2016, 03:43 AM
those damn homonyms.but they're not. one has a second n, and it isn't silent.
Winehole23
01-30-2016, 03:45 AM
don't see another backpedal from here, best to quit while you're behind.
Winehole23
01-30-2016, 03:46 AM
Why you pickin' on me, dick? :lolI did it for the LOLZ
boutons_deux
02-10-2016, 04:46 PM
John Kasich Poised To Sign Bill That Uses Discredited Evidence To Defund Planned Parenthood
Ohio’s legislature passed a bill on Wednesday to effectively defund Planned Parenthood by redirecting state-administered grants away from groups that “promote abortion.” The legislation now heads to the desk of Gov. John Kasich, who has vowed to sign it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCDKQ8qDLDQ) into the law.
The bill was created after the Center for Medical Progress released its attack videos (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2015/07/15/3680714/planned-parenthood-controversy/) last summer which claimed that the organization was selling “aborted baby parts.” The lawmakers who authored the legislation used the videos as the main evidence for defunding the largest women’s health organization, even after Ohio’s attorney general cleared the state’s Planned Parenthood clinics of any unlawful acts.
A number of other states are also attempting to pass measures to defund Planned Parenthood, but Ohio’s bill could be particularly disastrous. Women’s health advocates say the bill’s vague wording could unintentionally prevent major health departments in Ohio’s most populated areas from accessing these funds for all forms of care — not just abortions — and could ban major Ohio insurers from covering any other health services simply based on the fact that they also cover abortion.
By cutting off any programs that provide abortions, the legislation also targets (http://www.vox.com/2015/11/30/9821440/ohios-potentially-disastrous-proposal-to-defund-planned-parenthood) programs that screen for cancer, support mothers through pregnancy, and educate teens about domestic violence. Instead, the funds will be redirected to other providers, including dentist’s offices and school nurses, which do not perform these vital services.
Despite pressure from public health advocates (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2016/01/27/3743200/state-ignore-grand-jury/), Ohio voters (https://twitter.com/PPAOhio/status/697491086294589440), and the New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/27/opinion/vindication-for-planned-parenthood.html?_r=0), Kasich has remained committed to seeing the bill through into law.
“If they want to raise money, they can still do it,” Kasich told a voter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCDKQ8qDLDQ) in Iowa last month when he promised to sign the bill. “I’m going to sign a bill to defund it, so you shouldn’t be confused.”
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2016/02/10/3748390/kasich-abortion-legislation/
Repugs hide in the herd of chickenshit, anti-intellectal, anti-science, Bible humping (lip service), misogynist assholes, every single one of them.
Kasich isn't moderate, only moderate-sounding. His governorship has been as radical and extremist as TX.
boutons_deux
02-13-2016, 06:41 PM
Kentucky lawmaker’s bill would require men to get a note from their wives to purchase Viagra
Fed up with laws restricting a woman’s right to choose, a Kentucky lawmaker has proposed new restrictions on men wanting to obtain erectile dysfunction drug Viagra, saying she was doing it “to protect these men from themselves.”According to the Courier-Journal (http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2016/02/12/want-viagra-not-without-note-wife/80294772/#), Rep. Mary Lou Marzian, a Louisville Democrat, is sponsoring House Bill 396 in an effort to protect men’s health and ensure they are completely informed about a drug with potentially dangerous side effects.
Under Marzian’s bill, only married men would be able to obtain the drug and it would require “a man to make a sworn statement with his hand on a Bible that he will only use a prescription for a drug for erectile dysfunction when having sexual relations with his current spouse.” :lol
According to the lawmaker, who is also a nurse, “This is about family values.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/kentucky-lawmakers-bill-would-require-men-to-get-a-note-from-their-wives-to-purchase-viagra/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
boutons_deux
02-19-2016, 02:00 PM
Texas Senators Consider ‘Wrongful Birth’ Law
The term refers to a Texas law that allows parents of a child born with severe defects to bring forward a “wrongful birth” negligence claim against their doctor (http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2012/05/15/152687638/should-parents-be-able-to-sue-for-wrongful-birth) if they feel they were not adequately warned about fetal health conditions. Parents who succeed in the civil process are entitled to monetary damages to cover the lifetime costs of raising their disabled child.
Joe Pojman, director of the anti-abortion lobby group Texas Alliance for Life, told the Senate committee that the law sends the message that a child “would have been better off had he or she been aborted.”
Pojman also said the claim makes doctors liable for “a disability they did nothing to cause,” and told senators that it encourages medical professionals to “promote abortion to avoid liability,” a concept the organization has likened (https://www.texasallianceforlife.org/pro-life-agenda/eliminate-wrongful-birth-lawsuits/support-hb-3008/) to “eugenic abortions.”
“Wrongful birth” has its roots in a 1975 Texas Supreme Court case brought forward by a woman whose child was born with disabilities after her doctor did not tell her that she had rubella, which is known to cause (http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/surv-manual/chpt15-crs.html) serious birth defects, while she was pregnant. Nationally, about half (http://www.amednews.com/article/20081110/profession/311109973/4/) of the states recognize “wrongful birth” claims.
Reproductive rights advocates said that eliminating the “wrongful birth” legal claim could rob Texans of the ability to make their own decision about whether to carry a potentially troubled pregnancy to term, or to terminate.
Susan Hays, a longtime abortion rights advocate and attorney, told the Observer she fears a scenario where “a doctor who’s anti-abortion not telling a family there are birth defects, or downplaying them, and they have a child who suffers horribly.”
http://www.texasobserver.org/texas-senators-consider-wrongful-birth-law/
http://www.texasobserver.org/texas-senators-consider-wrongful-birth-law/
boutons_deux
02-19-2016, 02:20 PM
Texas Health Official Forced Out For Study That Criticized Planned Parenthood Cuts (http://jezebel.com/texas-health-official-forced-out-for-study-that-critici-1760083382)
The director of research at the Texas Health and Human Services Commission was nudged into early retirement after co-authoring a study that criticized the state cutting Planned Parenthood’s funding. The study suggested those cuts were damaging women’s healthcare statewide, which is true, and which several other studies have also found.
Texas lawmakers got extremely angry at Rick Allgeyer (http://www.texastribune.org/2016/02/18/state-employee-resigning-after-unflattering-womens/), a state employee for over 20 years, over this study, which he authored with researchers from the health commission and UT Austin’s Texas Policy Evaluation Project.
The study was published in early February in the New England Journal of Medicine (you can read the abstract here) (http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa1511902).
It concluded that cutting Planned Parenthood out of the Texas Women’s Health Program wasn’t such a hot idea, lowering the number of women who were able to get IUDs and raising the number of births covered by Medicaid.
http://jezebel.com/texas-health-official-forced-out-for-study-that-critici-1760083382?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_faceboo k&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
Texian Repug racist, misogynist War on (brown, black) Vaginas, and The Truth, rages full throttle.
boutons_deux
02-22-2016, 08:58 PM
John Oliver lays bare the South’s abortion-clinic nightmare: “Mississippi now has four times as many S’s as it does abortion clinics”
http://www.salon.com/2016/02/22/john_oliver_lays_bare_the_souths_abortion_clinic_n ightmaremississippi_now_has_four_times_as_many_ss_ as_it_does_abortion_clinics/
boutons_deux
02-23-2016, 11:34 AM
AL's War on N!gg@ Wimmen is as intense as in the 19th century
Alabama GOP Makes Another Push to Regulate Abortion Clinics Like Sex Offenders
Two anti-choice bills have gained traction in the Alabama state legislature this month. One seeks to regulate abortion clinics in the same manner as sex offenders, and the other would require physicians who provide abortion care to disclose information about their personal finances to patients.
SB 205 (http://alisondb.legislature.state.al.us/ALISON/SearchableInstruments/2016rs/PrintFiles/SB205-int.pdf), sponsored by state Sen. Paul Sanford (R-Huntsville), would prohibit the Alabama Department of Public Health from issuing or renewing a health center license to an abortion clinic or reproductive health center located within 2,000 feet of a public school, regulating abortion clinics in the same manner as registered sex offenders.
HB 183 would require that the physician provide the patient with a conflict of interest disclaimer that would disclose the physician’s personal financial information.
Among the financial information the physician would be required to disclose: gross income from the previous fiscal year, percentage of income obtained from providing abortion services, and a statement “concerning the monetary loss to the abortion provider which would result from the woman’s decision to carry the pregnancy to term.”
http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2016/02/22/alabama-gop-makes-another-push-regulate-abortion-clinics-like-sex-offenders/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rhrealitycheck+%28RH+Reality+ Check%29
spurraider21
02-23-2016, 04:10 PM
^boutons still the only one here who uses that sort of despicable language to describe people of color
boutons_deux
02-23-2016, 04:20 PM
^boutons still the only one here who uses that sort of despicable language to describe people of color
n!gg@s (aka racism) is the fundamental concept in Repug politicking, just so you (try to, but fail to) understand my usage.
spurraider21
02-23-2016, 04:23 PM
n!gg@s (aka racism) is the fundamental concept in Repug politicking, just so you (try to, but fail to) understand my usage.
i only see you using that here
time for some introspection tbh
boutons_deux
02-23-2016, 04:46 PM
i only see you using that here
time for some introspection tbh
I'm speaking the language the Repugs and rightwingnuts understand.
boutons_deux
03-04-2016, 12:36 AM
House GOP’s ‘witch hunt’ takes an alarming turn
Members of a House committee investigating Planned Parenthood clashed Wednesday during their first hearing on subpoenas issued to abortion clinics and medical researchers over the use of fetal tissue. […]
Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) said the committee could be “complicit” in murders of those researchers if their names became public and they are then killed. Democrats pointed to the shooting at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado to illustrate the danger.
When Nadler asked Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), the panel’s chair, why the committee needs the names of individual medical researchers, the Tennessee Republican reportedly responded, “No, sir, I am not going to answer that.”
The Associated Press report (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CONGRESS_PLANNED_PARENTHOOD?SITE=COBOU&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT) added that the committee has no rules in place to protect the names of those subpoenaed – raising the possibility of Congress effectively painting targets on the backs of scientists and researchers for no particular reason other than the Republicans’ desire for a culture war.
Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.), the top Democrat on the panel, described the investigation as a “partisan and dangerous witch hunt, and added, in reference to Blackburn, “The chair’s abuse of her position as chair to compel this information is reminiscent of Senator Joe McCarthy’s abusive tactics.”
Democrats pushed a measure to quash the unnecessary subpoenas. Republicans defeated it on a party-line vote.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/house-gops-witch-hunt-takes-alarming-turn?cid=sm_fb_maddow
Police are pushing to keep their names secret, but Repugs are standing up abortion providers like turkeys on a shooting range.
boutons_deux
03-04-2016, 12:51 AM
FEATURED (http://deadstate.org/category/featured/)Christian group conducts study, finds out that Christians have the most abortions
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(http://deadstate.org/christian-group-conducts-study-finds-out-that-christians-have-the-most-abortions/#)In the wake of the Planned Parenthood shooting in Colorado Springs, the findings of a survey released by LifeWay, a Christian research group, reveal some interesting facts about a seemingly hidden culture within the Christian community.
The survey (http://www.lifewayresearch.com/files/2015/11/Care-Net-Final-Presentation-Report-Revised.pdf) explores the true relationship of religion and abortion and was co-sponsored by the pregnancy support organization Care Net. These are some of their findings.
70 percent of the women they surveyed considered themselves Christians.
Over 50 percent of the surveyed women who attend church regularly have kept their abortions secret from their church community.
40 percent of women surveyed feel that churches are not equipped to help them make decisions about unwanted pregnancies.
While these findings may be surprising, even more surprising is one of the main reasons these women seek abortions. Anti-abortion culture often lays the blame on the women who terminate pregnancies, citing their callousness, promiscuity, and sinful nature. However, it turns out the opposite is true. Roughly a third of women, regardless of their religious beliefs, cite the father of the unborn baby as the most influential person in their decision to terminate their pregnancy.
Many of the results of this survey are particularly damning of church culture, which shames women during these difficult times, rather than offering any guidance.
Roughly two thirds of the women surveyed agree that their pastors’ teachings on forgiveness do not apply to women who have terminated pregnancies. Over half of women believe that their Church is out-of-touch when it comes to helping them make decisions about pregnancy options.
http://i2.wp.com/deadstate.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Screen-Shot-2015-11-30-at-11.21.51-PM.png?resize=470%2C374 (http://i2.wp.com/deadstate.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Screen-Shot-2015-11-30-at-11.21.51-PM.png)
It is interesting to note that this survey was conducted by a Christian organization. Given results like these, many conservatives would say that the study is skewed to make the Christian hard-right look bad, but considering the direction the abortion debate has taken of late, they don’t really need any help in that area.
Regardless of the choices the women in these communities make, they face judgment on all sides, and have to choose between secrecy and being ostracized, in which no ‘right’ decision can be made. This is why over half of women who regularly attend church keep their terminated pregnancy secret and only 7 percent of women say they’ve discussed their options with fellow churchgoers.
http://deadstate.org/christian-group-conducts-study-finds-out-that-christians-have-the-most-abortions/
boutons_deux
03-24-2016, 08:22 AM
House Seeks Names of Fetal Tissue Researchers, Prompting Claims of Intimidation
WASHINGTON — A special House committee empaneled to investigate fetal tissue research is preparing to issue 17 subpoenas to medical supply companies and laboratories, seeking the names of researchers, graduate students, laboratory technicians and administrative personnel.
The House investigation into how some of the nation’s most prestigious universities acquire fetal tissue has prompted charges of intimidation and coercion, escalating a battle that some researchers fear could shut down studies seeking cures for Parkinson’s disease, the Zika virus (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/02/health/zika-virus-world-health-organization.html) and a host of other conditions.
Representative Marsha Blackburn, Republican of Tennessee, who opposes most fetal tissue research because of its association with abortion, intends to issue the subpoenas on behalf of the Republicans on the House Select Investigative Panel on Infant Lives.
The panel was created to investigate fetal tissue research after the release of surreptitiously recorded videos (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/27/us/reacting-to-videos-planned-parenthood-fights-to-regain-initiative.html) purporting to show Planned Parenthood (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/p/planned_parenthood_federation_of_america/index.html?inline=nyt-org) officials trying to profit illegally from the sale of such tissue. :lol
Several state investigations have exonerated Planned Parenthood, and the videographers were indicted (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/us/2-abortion-foes-behind-planned-parenthood-videos-are-indicted.html) in Texas. But the House investigation spurred by the videos continues.
“We are going to review the business practices of these procurement organizations and do some investigating of how they have constructed a for-profit business model from selling baby body parts,” Ms. Blackburn said in an interview.
Federal law forbids profiting from the sale of human organs or tissue.
For universities, the House investigation has become deeply unsettling. University officials fear that the release of the names sought by lawmakers could endanger lives if anti-abortion activists decide to target those involved in fetal tissue research.
On Nov. 27, Robert L. Dear Jr. killed three people (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/28/us/colorado-planned-parenthood-shooting.html) and wounded nine at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs, and said (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/10/us/colorado-planned-parenthood-shooting.html) “no more baby parts” after his arrest.
Many of the schools and organizations blacked out names and other identifying information before submitting hundreds of pages of research documents in response to the committee’s requests for information. “U.C.S.D. has redacted individually identifying information from the enclosed documents,” the University of California, San Diego, stated in its cover letter, citing security concerns.
But those redactions frustrated committee investigators and prompted the subpoenas.
“It’s one step further than McCarthyism, because McCarthy just threatened people’s jobs,” said Representative Jerrold Nadler, Democrat of New York. “They’re threatening people’s lives.”
House Republicans have tried and failed to cut off all federal funding (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/09/us/politics/obama-vetoes-bill-to-repeal-health-law-and-end-planned-parenthood-funding.html) for Planned Parenthood, but their investigation is having an impact. Some medical studies have been delayed or canceled because researchers can no longer acquire fetal tissue samples from their usual suppliers, who have grown concerned about the investigation, researchers said.
Larry Goldstein, scientific director of the Sanford Consortium for Regenerative Medicine in San Diego, told the committee at its first hearing on March 2 that a project to cure multiple sclerosis had been halted because it had “basically seen supply of fetal material dry up completely.”
Colorado State University suspended its acquisition of fetal tissue (http://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2015/07/28/colorado-state-university-stem-express/30809431/) from “vendors implicated in the Planned Parenthood investigation pending the outcome of the congressional inquiry,” the university said in a letter to Congress in July.
Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, a teaching hospital for Harvard Medical School, no longer accepts applications from researchers seeking fetal tissue from abortions performed there. Hospital officials took a week to explain the halt, which they eventually said was unrelated to the House investigation. But, citing the fatal shooting (https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/01/20/boston-police-investigate-report-shooting-brigham-and-women/Jhig9z8LO8A5PH9Er4vTiP/story.html) last year of a cardiovascular surgeon at the hospital, Brigham and Women’s officials insisted on knowing when The New York Times would publish this article so they could put additional security in place.
Democrats charge that the Planned Parenthood investigation is part of a broader pattern.
Late last year, climate scientists accused (http://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=2641997-ScientistsThankYoutoDrSullivan) Representative Lamar Smith of Texas, chairman of the House Science, Space and Technology Committee, of “bullying tactics” after he issued a subpoena for internal deliberations on climate change (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/globalwarming/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
Ms. Blackburn said intimidation was not intended. :lol SHE LIES
“We all are concerned for individual safety,” :lol Ms. Blackburn said. “It’s important to note that we have to have the names of some of the individuals who are carrying out these practices in order to investigate the practice.” :lol SHE'S LYING, IT'S BLATANT INTIMIDATION
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/us/politics/house-seeks-names-of-fetal-tissue-researchers-prompting-claims-of-intimidation.html?_r=0
Repug MISgovernance is nothing but culture wars, deflecting from the horrendously damaging wealthy Class War.
Fucking red and slave states.
So I guess the Repug witch hunters will publish the names of the "witches" so they can be targets for witch killers.
Repugs and Bible humpers live in a fabricated, dishonest universe, a bubble of fantasy, and echo chamber of lies.
EVERYTHING they say and do is dishonest, built on bullshit "beliefs".
boutons_deux
04-06-2016, 10:28 AM
Man Behind Planned Parenthood Sting Videos Says California DOJ Raided Home, Took Videos
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — An anti-abortion activist who made undercover videos at Planned Parenthood clinics said in a social media posting that California Department of Justice agents raided his home Tuesday.
Agents seized all video footage from his apartment, along with his personal information, David Daleiden said in a Facebook post. Daleiden, the founder of a group called the Center for Medical Progress, said agents left behind documents that he contends implicate Planned Parenthood in illegal behavior related to the handling of fetal tissue.
Center for Medical Progress spokesman Peter Robbio confirmed the social media posting is authentic, but he declined further comment. He said Daleiden lives in Orange County.
Rachele Huennekens, a spokeswoman for state Attorney General Kamala Harris, said in an email that she can't comment on any ongoing investigation.
Harris said in July that she planned to review the undercover videos to see if center violated any state charity registration or reporting requirements. She said that could include whether Daleiden and a colleague impersonated representatives of a fake biomedical company or filmed the videos without Planned Parenthood's consent.
Harris, a Democrat, is running for the U.S. Senate. Daleiden suggested in the social media posting that the raid was politically motivated because Harris has accepted campaign contributions from Planned Parenthood.
Daleiden faces related charges in Texas. One of his Texas attorneys, Terry Yates, did not return telephone and email messages Tuesday.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/david-daleiden-planned-parenthood-videos-says-california-raided-home?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29
Spurminator
04-06-2016, 10:35 AM
You know how sometimes old websites that haven't been updated in a while get hacked and have all sorts of useless spam posted to them?
That's what these threads remind me of when the last few posts are from boutons.
Ghost thread.
boutons_deux
04-06-2016, 10:38 AM
You know how sometimes old websites that haven't been updated in a while get hacked and have all sorts of useless spam posted to them?
That's what these threads remind me of when the last few posts are from boutons.
Ghost thread.
The PP witch hunt, based on the CMP bullshit, perhaps criminal videos, is STILL active in Repug Congress. Try to keep up.
boutons_deux
04-06-2016, 02:08 PM
You know how sometimes old websites that haven't been updated in a while get hacked and have all sorts of useless spam posted to them?
That's what these threads remind me of when the last few posts are from boutons.
Ghost thread.
The Great Boutons is always on top of the hottest news, here's some ONGOING Repug War on Vaginas:
Missouri Republicans Are Threatening A Planned Parenthood Employee With Jail Time
The senators are trying to hold the Planned Parenthood employee in contempt of court — because the clinic has refused turn over a broad swath of private medical documents, which the organization says would have violated federal privacy laws.
The contempt charge is related to a November subpoena issued to Mary Kogut, President and CEO of Planned Parenthood of the St. Louis Region and Southwest Missouri, by the interim Missouri State Senate Committee on the Sanctity of Life. The committee was convened to investigate allegations that the women’s health organization illegally sells fetal remains, made by the Center for Medical Progress’ widely-debunked (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/28/us/abortion-planned-parenthood-videos.html?_r=0) sting videos.
Among the requested documents are all consent forms signed by patients as part of receiving abortion care or prior to being administered anesthesia since 2010. As the clinic is the only remaining abortion provider (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/01/22/3188321/missouri-abortion-clinic-interview/) in the state, this would effectively give lawmakers the names of the bulk of the women in Missouri who’ve received abortions in recent years, other than a small number of procedures performed at hospitals. Crucially, the committee’s document request makes no specifications about what would happen with the information after it is turned over, so there is no guarantee that the information could not be turned over to the public.
Planned Parenthood’s lawyers contend that the committee lacks the authority to subpoena the documents — many of which contain information protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) — and that turning them would be a breach of doctor-patient confidentiality (http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article69503017.html) and federal privacy laws (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/05/missouri-planned-parenthood-president-senate-contempt).
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2016/04/06/3766831/planned-parenthood-employee-threatened-with-jail/
And Repugs call Obama "lawless"? :lol
SpursforSix
04-06-2016, 02:11 PM
The Great Boutons is always on top of the hottest news, here's some ONGOING Repug War on Vaginas:
Missouri Republicans Are Threatening A Planned Parenthood Employee With Jail Time
The senators are trying to hold the Planned Parenthood employee in contempt of court — because the clinic has refused turn over a broad swath of private medical documents, which the organization says would have violated federal privacy laws.
The contempt charge is related to a November subpoena issued to Mary Kogut, President and CEO of Planned Parenthood of the St. Louis Region and Southwest Missouri, by the interim Missouri State Senate Committee on the Sanctity of Life. The committee was convened to investigate allegations that the women’s health organization illegally sells fetal remains, made by the Center for Medical Progress’ widely-debunked (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/28/us/abortion-planned-parenthood-videos.html?_r=0) sting videos.
Among the requested documents are all consent forms signed by patients as part of receiving abortion care or prior to being administered anesthesia since 2010. As the clinic is the only remaining abortion provider (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/01/22/3188321/missouri-abortion-clinic-interview/) in the state, this would effectively give lawmakers the names of the bulk of the women in Missouri who’ve received abortions in recent years, other than a small number of procedures performed at hospitals. Crucially, the committee’s document request makes no specifications about what would happen with the information after it is turned over, so there is no guarantee that the information could not be turned over to the public.
Planned Parenthood’s lawyers contend that the committee lacks the authority to subpoena the documents — many of which contain information protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) — and that turning them would be a breach of doctor-patient confidentiality (http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article69503017.html) and federal privacy laws (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/05/missouri-planned-parenthood-president-senate-contempt).
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2016/04/06/3766831/planned-parenthood-employee-threatened-with-jail/
And Repugs call Obama "lawless"? :lol
so what's your solution? to jail non-aborted babies?
spurraider21
04-06-2016, 02:12 PM
thinkprogress, talkingpointsmemo... now we just need some duplicate articles from DailyKOS, Salon, and a link to OccupyDemocrats facebook page and we'll be on our way
boutons_deux
04-06-2016, 02:27 PM
thinkprogress, talkingpointsmemo... now we just need some duplicate articles from DailyKOS, Salon, and a link to OccupyDemocrats facebook page and we'll be on our way
Spurraiders, always read to rebut so eloquently.
Shastafarian
04-06-2016, 03:19 PM
thinkprogress, talkingpointsmemo... now we just need some duplicate articles from DailyKOS, Salon, and a link to OccupyDemocrats facebook page and we'll be on our way
How about the Kansas City Star? Are they conservative enough for you?
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article69503017.html
spurraider21
04-06-2016, 03:42 PM
How about the Kansas City Star? Are they conservative enough for you?
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article69503017.html
i dont require conservative reading, i just commented on booboo's patterns
Shastafarian
04-06-2016, 09:10 PM
i dont require conservative reading, i just commented on booboo's patterns
Fair enough. Care to comment on the story or are you just here for low hanging fruit?
spurraider21
04-06-2016, 09:22 PM
Fair enough. Care to comment on the story or are you just here for low hanging fruit?
with booboo there's always low hanging fruit
the planned parenthood story was a joke from the get-go, not really worth commenting on at this point
Shastafarian
04-06-2016, 10:09 PM
with booboo there's always low hanging fruit
the planned parenthood story was a joke from the get-go, not really worth commenting on at this point
Well yeah it was clearly a joke. But this is a real scenario that could lead to imprisonment for someone who is refusing to break HIPAA regulations/doctor-patient privilege in regards to LEGAL, medical activities. All based on obviously fraudulent, illegally obtained video.
boutons_deux
04-06-2016, 11:08 PM
joke. Really funny sitting in jail.
boutons_deux
06-09-2016, 05:58 AM
After Texas Booted Planned Parenthood from HIV Program, County Replacement Hasn’t Performed a Single Test
Texas took a nearly 30-year-old HIV prevention contract away from Planned Parenthood in December, promising there’d be no gap in services.
When Texas abruptly ended (https://www.texasobserver.org/texas-boots-planned-parenthood-from-hiv-program/) its $600,000 HIV prevention contract with Planned Parenthood’s Houston affiliate in late December, state health officials promised (https://www.texasobserver.org/planned-parenthood-hiv-program-dshs-letter/) that there would be no interruption in services.
But the Observer has learned that as of early June, Harris County’s health department has yet to perform a single HIV test with the money.
So far, the department has received about $250,000 in state funding but is still in the planning stages for its program.
In the five months since losing its contract, Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast (PPGC) estimates that it would have provided 2,900 HIV tests and distributed around 165,000 condoms.
Rochelle Tafolla, PPGC’s spokesperson, said most of its testing was conducted in Harris County, the most populous in Texas and home to nearly 23,000 Texans living with HIV.
From 1988 to 2015, Planned Parenthood tested more than 138,000 people in Harris, Fort Bend, Galveston, Brazoria and Montgomery counties, and identified almost 1,200 individuals with HIV. The organization conducted testing and prevention at bars, colleges and jails. Tafolla also told the Observer that the organization provided about 575 HIV tests every month and distributed about 33,000 condoms.
“Think of all the cases of HIV that would’ve been prevented had the people who did this, and do it well, still been testing,”
“was a pure political move and something you don’t do to people’s health, especially when you have state leaders who are charged with overseeing the public health of Texas.”
According to the state health department’s HIV Surveillance Report, nearly 1,300 Harris County residents were diagnosed with HIV in 2014, the highest number of new cases that year across all 254 Texas counties.
Testing individuals at risk for HIV as quickly as possible is “key” for reducing new infection rates,
https://www.texasobserver.org/hiv-planned-parenthood-harris-county/
Repugs fuck up everything they touch, except that they are Masters of the Universe when fucking over poor, black, browns
I could understand if they didnt replace it at all and left the public health to the individual. Obviously going to lead to a lot the AIDS, but hey some people might say dont fuck without protection, one, and two pay for it yourself.
But spending money to effectively replace the program unsuccessfully? Makes not a lick of sense.
boutons_deux
06-09-2016, 07:25 AM
with booboo there's always low hanging fruit
the planned parenthood story was a joke from the get-go, not really worth commenting on at this point
:lol
More VD/STI, more unwanted pregnancies, more untreated disease, less testing, more abortions.
They're your poor white trash buddies, blacks, browns, so their misery not worth commenting on.
spurraider21
06-09-2016, 10:33 AM
Is that what hannity told you to say?
:vomit:
I despise all the shill news sources whether left or right. People that go to those regularly aren't looking for information. They're looking for affirmation. It's boring as shit, choosing a "news" source where you just read a bunch of shit you agree with, just nodding your head the whole way through. You learn nothing new
boutons_deux
06-09-2016, 10:51 AM
:vomit:
whether left or right
false equivalence. lefty news doesn't cherry pick, it INDUSTRIALLY HARVESTS all the shit from the Repugs, because it's ALL SHIT.
spurraider21
06-09-2016, 12:18 PM
Missing the point. When somebody like yourself reads a salon article about how awful trump is, you learn nothing new. It's not news. You aren't gaining knowledge. It's just affirmation. When a right winger watches an hour of hannity to hear about how awful Clinton is or how biased the media is, he's learning nothing new either. It's a lot of words and time wasted that ultimately has no net effect on the viewer who just becomes more stubborn. It's a pointless endeavor.
boutons_deux
06-09-2016, 12:41 PM
Missing the point. When somebody like yourself reads a salon article about how awful trump is, you learn nothing new. It's not news. You aren't gaining knowledge. It's just affirmation. When a right winger watches an hour of hannity to hear about how awful Clinton is or how biased the media is, he's learning nothing new either. It's a lot of words and time wasted that ultimately has no net effect on the viewer who just becomes more stubborn. It's a pointless endeavor.
bullshit, you miss the point. Hannity, Fox, rightwing hate media, misrepresent, Repugs, Christian Taliban, LIE, SLANDER.
most lefties simply let the Repug, Christian Taliban words and actions SPEAK for themselves plus some editorializing.
spurraider21
06-09-2016, 12:54 PM
I never went into their respective merits. Talking more about the effect on viewer/listener which in most cases is a net 0 aka a colossal waste of time
spurraider21
06-09-2016, 12:59 PM
When salon tweets that white Americans need to answer for Charleston but separately tweeted that Muslim Americans don't need to answer for tsarnaevs, is that REALLY letting "facts speak for themselves plus some editorializing" or is it just shilling
boutons_deux
06-09-2016, 01:16 PM
When salon tweets that white Americans need to answer for Charleston but separately tweeted that Muslim Americans don't need to answer for tsarnaevs, is that REALLY letting "facts speak for themselves plus some editorializing" or is it just shilling
The Tsarnwevs were terrorists, not all representative of (American) Muslims.
The Charleston shooter is representative of the murderous hatred of knitters by white Americans (and lynchers) going back 100s of years. Hating knitters is very common in slave, red states, even the default position.
Then add in the brutalization and murders of knitters by police everywhere, the Charleston shooter represents them, too.
spurraider21
06-09-2016, 04:47 PM
Lol
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