Why trump has already won the republican nomination

[Blake]

Did he fulfill his campaign promises or even try? Or did you simply think his campaign promises were shitty as well? I mean, if voters elect a guy and that guy does what he said he would do, that's what they wanted, regardless how unsavory the promises (that's on the voters as well). Do you think they got that?

Do you really think he fulfilled all of his campaign promises or even try?

He didn't. He didn't come close.

[Blake]

Strawman from Blake, unusual. I never called them facts.

I never said you did. Your reading comprehension really blows.

[ElNono]

There's a lot of shuffling around and lashing out, but no one has actually taken the time to outline where he's failed and what would have been a success (based on his campaign, not based on your political leanings).

He promised a cheaper and best ever healthcare for all Americans. He clearly was never going to be able to deliver that, it's extremely doubtful he even understood the problem at all.

The promise to return manufacturing to America was also wishful thinking. For anybody that understands even a sliver of how the world economy works, that was simply another hollow promise.

He also said his hedge fund buddies were going to need to take a hit. Well, not only they didn't, they took at least couple of massive handouts (tax breaks, market +companies bailout when covid started).

One could argue that none of these things are things Republicans mind or care about, but he can't win with Republican votes alone, so obviously they're all extremely important topics.

[ElNono]

Also torpedoing Obamacare without a replacement in hand is borderline criminal, especially with the current health emergency. That's one point touted as a plus in that list, it's actually a giant negative for America right now.

[DMC]

Also torpedoing Obamacare without a replacement in hand is borderline criminal, especially with the current health emergency. That's one point touted as a plus in that list, it's actually a giant negative for America right now.

Why? Who isn't getting treatment?

[DMC]

Do you really think he fulfilled all of his campaign promises or even try?

He didn't. He didn't come close.

What were his promises that he didn't keep?

[DMC]

I never said you did. Your reading comprehension really blows.

You put it in quotes. That's what it means when you put it in quotes.

[spurraider21]

Minus COVID-19 Trump wins 2020 by landslide. His results can only be challenged on subjective social issues and personal demeanor while in office (aka not Presidential enough).

Which of these do you disagree with (From Whitehouse.gov)?


Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
Record number of regulations eliminated.
Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.


Imagine posting this unironically

[baseline bum]

Did he fulfill his campaign promises or even try? Or did you simply think his campaign promises were shitty as well? I mean, if voters elect a guy and that guy does what he said he would do, that's what they wanted, regardless how unsavory the promises (that's on the voters as well). Do you think they got that?

Like how he was going to provide healthcare with universal coverage that was so much cheaper than Obamacare and would provide better coverage? Because healthcare was easy.

[Will Hunting]

Like how he was going to provide healthcare with universal coverage that was so much cheaper than Obamacare and would provide better coverage? Because healthcare was easy.
:lmao “I’m just gonna sell health insurance across state lines and it’ll change EVERYTHING!!!”

[ElNono]

Why? Who isn't getting treatment?

8+ million people on Obamacare nowadays. There's a case on the SCOTUS to invalidate the whole law right now and become insta-uninsured. Does that strike you as a good idea?

And getting treatment is just the tip of the iceberg, the financial ruin that follows never been pretty.

[Blake]

You put it in quotes. That's what it means when you put it in quotes.

Yeah the Whitehouse is referring to them as "facts".

Again, your reading comprehension skills seriously blow.

[DMC]

8+ million people on Obamacare nowadays. There's a case on the SCOTUS to invalidate the whole law right now and become insta-uninsured. Does that strike you as a good idea?

And getting treatment is just the tip of the iceberg, the financial ruin that follows never been pretty.

I was never a fan of Obamacare or how it was rolled out, shoved down our throats. It stands to reason something brought about by force will be taken down by force.

Here's a tracker

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/?ruling=true

[DMC]

Imagine posting this unironically

Imagine you having a real take on it.

[Blake]

What were his promises that he didn't keep?

The self made spurstalk super sleuth can't find one broken promise on the internets?

[DMC]

Yeah the Whitehouse is referring to them as "facts".

Again, your reading comprehension skills seriously blow.

You didn't even address a single one. I asked which ones you disagreed with and you just attacked the source.

[Blake]

"establish a commission on radical islam"

*Crickets

[Blake]

You didn't even address a single one. I asked which ones you disagreed with and you just attacked the source.

The source is Trump.

Jesus.

[DMC]

"establish a commission on radical islam"

*Crickets

Good or bad?

[ElNono]

I was never a fan of Obamacare or how it was rolled out, shoved down our throats. It stands to reason something brought about by force will be taken down by force.

Here's a tracker

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/?ruling=true

I'm still not a fan of Obamacare to this day. However, I readily admit that leaving 8 million people now without any insurance is fucking criminal. Not just because of coverage, but the entire economic picture.

Furthermore, the ONLY reason he didn't wipe out Obamacare was his own Congress tripped him (lord savior McCain), when he had majority in both chambers (and wanted to replace it with an absolutely shit program), he's been trying to torpedo the law ever since.

So this is something he was never going to deliver on. Even if the SCOTUS rules to wipe Obamacare off the books, he has no plan, or a Congress to pass any replacement, much less the notion that he's going to pass anything cheaper and/or better.

[DMC]

The source is Trump.

Jesus.

So? TDS again.

[DMC]

I'm still not a fan of Obamacare to this day. However, I readily admit that leaving 8 million people now without any insurance is fucking criminal. Not just because of coverage, but the entire economic picture.

Furthermore, the ONLY reason he didn't wipe out Obamacare was his own Congress tripped him (lord savior McCain), when he had majority in both chambers (and wanted to replace it with an absolutely shit program), he's been trying to torpedo the law ever since.

So this is something he was never going to deliver on. Even if the SCOTUS rules to wipe Obamacare off the books, he has no plan, or a Congress to pass any replacement, much less the notion that he's going to pass anything cheaper and/or better.

The accretion of presidential power emerged in the last 20 years. Prior to that you didn't see it much. I expect it to continue exponentially and as a reaction, the judicial branch will be even more activist than they are now.

[ChumpDumper]

There's a lot of shuffling around and lashing out
I agree. Maybe you could just answer a question instead.

You think he's a good president?

[Blake]

Good or bad?

commission designed to ultimately determine that radical is bad.

Worthless pandering promise. That's all.

[Blake]

I agree. Maybe you could just answer a question instead.

Every day he's shuffling

[Blake]

So? TDS again.

What do you mean "so"?

Trump is a proven liar. Especially about himself. Only an idiot would completely trust a self propping source.

[ElNono]

The accretion of presidential power emerged in the last 20 years. Prior to that you didn't see it much. I expect it to continue exponentially and as a reaction, the judicial branch will be even more activist than they are now.

I concur with this, and it goes hand in hand with the absolute destruction of Congress by congress-critters themselves.

I don't know about the future though, one would think Congress can't go any lower, but, to be frank, I thought the same with the executive and cheney... then came along Trump. So YMMV.

[pgardn]

What were his promises that he didn't keep?

Are you fckn kidding?

WE have a health care plan.
They had nothing.

And then he tries to pretend he was never a Trumpster.

[DMC]

Are you fckn kidding?

WE have a health care plan.
They had nothing.

And then he tries to pretend he was never a Trumpster.

It's a question, not a challenge.

We/They

You need to realize you're speaking to people, not to your inner self. Make some fucking sense.

[pgardn]

It's a question, not a challenge.

We/They

You need to realize you're speaking to people, not to your inner self. Make some fucking sense.

Oh good I knew it.
Exactly why I threw in the "We"
Keep groping and failing.

[spurraider21]

Imagine you having a real take on it.
I’m not responding point by point for your 53 line copypasta

youre just gleefully republishing White House talking points to argue trumps competence

[ChumpDumper]

Imagine you having a real take on it.

You think he's a good president?

[DMC]

Oh good I knew it.
Exactly why I threw in the "We"
Keep groping and failing.

I'm not even going to try to interpret your gibberish

[DMC]

I’m not responding point by point for your 53 line copypasta

youre just gleefully republishing White House talking points to argue trumps competence

But you felt you needed to respond because cute.

[DMC]

...

I have you on ignore. I sometimes peek to see if you're still going. If I don't address your questions it's either because I didn't see them or didn't care.

[pgardn]

I'm not even going to try to interpret your gibberish

per usual because you are dead in the water.

"what promises has he/we/they ..."

You are just pitiful in your death flailing.

[ChumpDumper]

I have you on ignore. I sometimes peek to see if you're still going. If I don't address your questions it's either because I didn't see them or didn't care.:lmao I got you doing more backflips

[DMC]

But no, I don't think he's a good president. He doesn't think enough about the entire country, only his supporters. A good president has to be willing to address concerns of both sides but we've gone away from that and that might not ever come back.

[ChumpDumper]

So not actually on ignore.

We agree he's not a good president.:tu

I just knew it way before you did.

[DMC]

So not actually on ignore.

We agree he's not a good president.:tu

I just knew it way before you did.

Yes you are on ignore, it gives me the option of bypassing your pages and pages of back and forth with Spurtacular on almost every thread. Somehow you think you're justified and he's at fault. You're both guilty of shitting up the place.

[pgardn]

So not actually on ignore.

We agree he's not a good president.:tu

I just knew it way before you did.

Now he wants to be reasonable again.
But he has to have the piss beaten out of him first.
Games...

[ChumpDumper]

Yes you are on ignore, it gives me the option of bypassing your pages and pages of back and forth with Spurtacular on almost every thread. Somehow you think you're justified and he's at fault. You're both guilty of shitting up the place.No, I'm also at fault.

I don't know why you're upset that :madrunTHE LEFT:madrun was right in thinking Trump wasn't going to be a good president way before you figured it out, but there you are.

[ChumpDumper]

Now he wants to be reasonable again.
But he has to have the piss beaten out of him first.
Games...Just a matter of time before the facade drops again.

[DMC]

No, I'm also at fault.

I don't know why you're upset that :madrunTHE LEFT:madrun was right in thinking Trump wasn't going to be a good president way before you figured it out, but there you are.

The left thinks everyone on the right is a poor choice, that's why they are on the left. It's not hard to fathom then that your political bias taints your outlook and your opinion is just an opinion. Plenty on the right think he's done a good job, but I don't. I didn't vote for him and would never vote for him but I do like some of the things he's done. Far be it from the left to ever say anything of the sort. Team sports, amirite?

[DMC]

Now he wants to be reasonable again.
But he has to have the piss beaten out of him first.
Games...

So reasonable, to you, means agreeing with you? :lol

[ChumpDumper]

The left thinks everyone on the right is a poor choice, that's why they are on the left. It's not hard to fathom then that your political bias taints your outlook and your opinion is just an opinion. Plenty on the right think he's done a good job, but I don't. I didn't vote for him and would never vote for him but I do like some of the things he's done. Far be it from the left to ever say anything of the sort. Team sports, amirite?THE LEFT, 2016: This guy's not gonna be a good president.

DMC, July 2020: I was practically forced to say Trump isn't a good president. Therefore the left was wrong to say Trump would not be a good president four years ago.

[pgardn]

So reasonable, to you, means agreeing with you? :lol

NO.

You left out leading by creating hate; narcissism, egomaniac..
And now he understands me again...

How convenient.

[Th'Pusher]

The accretion of presidential power emerged in the last 20 years. Prior to that you didn't see it much. I expect it to continue exponentially and as a reaction, the judicial branch will be even more activist than they are now.

:lol

Your shtick is :td you’re a trumper until you’re forced into such intellectual dishonesty that you have to backpedal your way out with milquetoast takes like these that maybe two people in the PF would disagree with.

[DMC]

:lol

Your shtick is :td you’re a trumper until you’re forced into such intellectual dishonesty that you have to backpedal your way out with milquetoast takes like these that maybe two people in the PF would disagree with.

Whatever I did to you it's had lasting effects. You are one salty motherfucker.

[DMC]

NO.

You left out leading by creating hate; narcissism, egomaniac..
And now he understands me again...

How convenient.

No I still don't understand you. You have a choppy thought pattern and you seem to carry that forward into your posts. I don't know how the fuck anybody is supposed to keep up with your mental meandering.

You're like a slightly more verbose version of Ducks.

[FrostKing]

THE LEFT, 2016: This guy's not gonna be a good president.

DMC, July 2020: I was practically forced to say Trump isn't a good president. Therefore the left was wrong to say Trump would not be a good president four years ago.
The Left has been petty since day 1. Which is saying alot when discussing Trump

It reminds me of GWB's tenure. I was part of that mob that saw absolutely no positives in what he did or said. Nothing. Since I didn't respect anything he did, his supporters were incoherent radicals to me.

But I think GWB was just the puppet for a more fundamental and rooted establishment. This is Trump Inc. And most of his success (winning presidency etc) is just countering what the Left (establishment) did/does. GWB administration were a powerful machine undeterred by anyone. So much so I think they purposely turned a blind eye to 9/11.

The stance and actions of the Left during Trump's Presidency is long established. It is Trump who is countering, not the other way around. During GWB, we (the left) were countering his administration.

[Blake]

It is Trump who is countering, not the other way around.

:lmao bullshit

[ChumpDumper]

The Left has been petty since day 1. Which is saying alot when discussing Trump

It reminds me of GWB's tenure. I was part of that mob that saw absolutely no positives in what he did or said. Nothing. Since I didn't respect anything he did, his supporters were incoherent radicals to me.

But I think GWB was just the puppet for a more fundamental and rooted establishment. This is Trump Inc. And most of his success (winning presidency etc) is just countering what the Left (establishment) did/does. GWB administration were a powerful machine undeterred by anyone. So much so I think they purposely turned a blind eye to 9/11.

The stance and actions of the Left during Trump's Presidency is long established. It is Trump who is countering, not the other way around. During GWB, we (the left) were countering his administration.Uh, no. I understand your desire to put yourself in the Rebel Alliance no matter which party you're in but it doesn't work that way.

GWB willfully downplayed the threat of terrorism.

Obama willfully downplayed the threat of Putin and Russia.

Trump willfully downplayed the threat of pandemics.

Each did this because he thought the previous president was putting too much emphasis on each issue and that he knew better. This happens with every new administration, especially when the party of the president changes. Bush and Obama eventually changed their tunes and adapted to reality. Trump never will. He and you are trying to fight reality. And you're losing.

[DMC]

Uh, no. I understand your desire to put yourself in the Rebel Alliance no matter which party you're in but it doesn't work that way.

GWB willfully downplayed the threat of terrorism.

Obama willfully downplayed the threat of Putin and Russia.

Trump willfully downplayed the threat of pandemics.

Each did this because he thought the previous president was putting too much emphasis on each issue and that he knew better. This happens with every new administration, especially when the party of the president changes. Bush and Obama eventually changed their tunes and adapted to reality. Trump never will. He and you are trying to fight reality. And you're losing.

:lmao

Obama was in charge when Russia was meddling in the presidential election, and THEY KNEW IT! They were in charge when Hillary, the Secretary of State, had her private email server hacked. When exactly did they adapt?

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao

Obama was in charge when Russia was meddling in the presidential election, and THEY KNEW IT! They were in charge when Hillary, the Secretary of State, had her private email server hacked. When exactly did they adapt?

:lolAh so you don't even know about the request to McConnell. I do believe he should've proceeded without him.

It's OK. There's a lot of things you don't know. You're more interested in the personal lives of posters here than anything.:tu

[DMC]

When did they adapt?

[ChumpDumper]

When did they adapt?How detailed a history of each eight year administration are you demanding?

[Th'Pusher]

Whatever I did to you it's had lasting effects. You are one salty motherfucker.

Not salty. Just calling out shitty shtick as it’s your go to here.

Step 1. Post a contrarian position while not actually committing to it as your personal belief (hence the well deserved fence sitter label)

Step 2. Argue fervently about the position while not actually committing to the position for the sole purpose of arguing.

Step 3. Lose the argument

Step 4. Implicitly Concede the argument by lobbing up some bullshit that nobody fundamentally disagrees with.

The executive has been consolidating power over the last 20 years? You don’t say? Such insight!

[pgardn]

No I still don't understand you. You have a choppy thought pattern and you seem to carry that forward into your posts. I don't know how the fuck anybody is supposed to keep up with your mental meandering.

You're like a slightly more verbose version of Ducks.

You understand me perfectly. Im not here to write for my OCD prose teacher.
Its your worn out way of pretending like you dont get your ass stomped when you take big missteps.
I point them out, you pretend like you dont understand.

You basically show off for a board that has your pseudo intellectual BS figured out.
You and I understand each other very well, and its not good for you.
It does not matter to me who catches on, except for you.

And you do based on your answers.

Do you still remember your nature v. nurture fck up? Or shall we talk about the wind again?
Wanna be medical salesman is my guess, and thats being kind.

[hater]

I will bet you $5000, ELE, whatever the fuck you want, etc, that Trump is not the Republican nominee.

If you seriously think he has a chance in hell, you're a naive dumb cunt

:lmao

[hater]

I guarantee half the population could pull it off. With so much babysitting, it would be very easy to be presidential. Exhibit A is Bush Jr. Fact.

Of course there is a way to be a great president. I think the HP woman, even Rand Paul could make great presidents.

LMAO thinking the country requires a president in order to run :lol remove Obama from the picture and the country still runs. President is just a figurehead mostly. They barely have a say on anything tbqh.




Props to this man

[hater]

:lmao a guy with 95,000 posts in an internet forum claiming to know what women like :lol

:lmao

[baseline bum]

I guarantee half the population could pull it off. With so much babysitting, it would be very easy to be presidential. Exhibit A is Bush Jr. Fact.

Of course there is a way to be a great president. I think the HP woman, even Rand Paul could make great presidents.

LMAO thinking the country requires a president in order to run :lol remove Obama from the picture and the country still runs. President is just a figurehead mostly. They barely have a say on anything tbqh.

How well is the country running without a president right now?

[hater]

How well is the country running without a president right now?

You really think Dubya woulda done any better? :lmao

[baseline bum]

You really think Dubya woulda done any better? :lmao

Of course he would have. He actually gave a shit about pandemics and would listen to the CDC instead of censoring them.

[hater]

Of course he would have. He actually gave a shit about pandemics and would listen to the CDC instead of censoring them.

The CDC was against masks in Jan-April and that was witgout Trumps input :lol

Go back and ch3ck CDC guidelines tbqh

:lmao and you think the GOP inbreds would not have been mostly against masks and shutdowns? :lol

Are you serious? I hope not

[hater]

Apparently all the dead ppl Cuomo killed in NYC is on Trump :lmao

To blame all this failure of the USA on one guy is not only pathetuc. But dangerous

[baseline bum]

The CDC was against masks in Jan-April and that was witgout Trumps input :lol

Go back and ch3ck CDC guidelines tbqh

:lmao and you think the GOP inbreds would not have been mostly against masks and shutdowns? :lol

Are you serious? I hope not

Are you fucking retarded? They said that shit because otherwise there would have been a run on masks like there was with toilet paper that would have further screwed over our nation's doctors, nurses, and EMTs who needed them a lot worse than the general public. You know 100% for a fact there would have been massive hoarding of PPE if the CDC told people they worked back then. Don't even pretend otherwise.

[baseline bum]

Apparently all the dead ppl Cuomo killed in NYC is on Trump :lmao

To blame all this failure of the USA on one guy is not only pathetuc. But dangerous

How about the other 100k+ ? This failure is on Trump, he is the federal government as far as the GOP is concerned, and they're in power in 3 of the 4 chambers. There has never been a COVID strategy from Trump until now, and now the strategy is just to suppress data to try to keep the bodies from being counted any more.

[hater]

Are you fucking retarded? They said that shit because otherwise there would have been a run on masks like there was with toilet paper that would have further screwed over our nation's doctors, nurses, and EMTs who needed them a lot worse than the general public. You know 100% for a fact there would have been massive hoarding of PPE if the CDC told people they worked back then. Don't even pretend otherwise.

:lmao GTFO

- sept 11
- 08 financial meltdown
- afghan war
-iraq war
- over 1 million iraqi civilian dead
- thousands of american soldiers dead

GTFO bush apologist :lmao

[baseline bum]

:lmao GTFO

- sept 11
- 08 financial meltdown
- afghan war
-iraq war
- over 1 million iraqi civilian dead
- thousands of american soldiers dead

GTFO bush apologist :lmao

Bush is a war criminal piece of shit but Trump is uniquely horrible in a crisis like this.

[hater]

Bush is a war criminal piece of shit but Trump is uniquely horrible in a crisis like this.

Dont disagree but honestly we cant say Bush would not have gotten us into 3 wars before the pandemic and cant say he would have done much better

Truth is USA as a whole was u prepared Trump or not.

The same # of ppl woulda died in NYC regardless

Sorry brah in a lineup of Shillary, Bush and Trump. I STILL TAKE DUMP

[baseline bum]

Dont disagree but honestly we cant say Bush would not have gotten us into 3 wars before the pandemic and cant say he would have done much better

Truth is USA as a whole was u prepared Trump or not.

The same # of ppl woulda died in NYC regardless

Sorry brah in a lineup of Shillary, Bush and Trump. I STILL TAKE DUMP

Yes we can say Bush would have done way better because he would have listened to Fauci instead of exiling him. Same for Clinton. Even Alzheimers Reagan would have been better.

[hater]

Yes we can say Bush would have done way better because he would have listened to Fauci instead of exiling him. Same for Clinton. Even Alzheimers Reagan would have been better.

No there is no evidence he woulds listened to Fauci

Bush did EVERYTHING wrong during his precidency. HE DID NOT GEG A THING RIGHT.

so thinking he somehow woulda gotten the pandemic right is just opinion with no basis.

Busb and Dick Cheney onlybcared about their billionaires and their companies (like Haliburton)
They did not give 2 shits about americans. Thats a fact

They woulda just opted again to protect their billionaires and companies and fucked americans once again

[SpursforSix]

No there is no evidence he woulds listened to Fauci

Bush did EVERYTHING wrong during his precidency. HE DID NOT GEG A THING RIGHT.

so thinking he somehow woulda gotten the pandemic right is just opinion with no basis.

Busb and Dick Cheney onlybcared about their billionaires and their companies (like Haliburton)
They did not give 2 shits about americans. Thats a fact

They woulda just opted again to protect their billionaires and companies and fucked americans once again

You're reaching. This was probably the worst kind of situation to happen to Trump. Any other president, regardless of what you think about them, would have handled it better. And probably they would have all handled it about the same.

[baseline bum]

No there is no evidence he woulds listened to Fauci

Bush did EVERYTHING wrong during his precidency. HE DID NOT GEG A THING RIGHT.

so thinking he somehow woulda gotten the pandemic right is just opinion with no basis.

Busb and Dick Cheney onlybcared about their billionaires and their companies (like Haliburton)
They did not give 2 shits about americans. Thats a fact

They woulda just opted again to protect their billionaires and companies and fucked americans once again

Here is a fact. Donald Trump has been lying about the virus being under control for five months now. Here is another one: he has made wearing masks into a partisan political issue. He says people wearing masks is just to make him look bad. That alone is enough of a basis to say almost anyone else would have been better.

[hater]

Here is a fact. Donald Trump has been lying about the virus being under control for five months now. Here is another one: he has made wearing masks into a partisan political issue. He says people wearing masks is just to make him look bad. That alone is enough of a basis to say almost anyone else would have been better.

You think bush would not have lied about the virus being under control? You think bush would not have chosen his billionaires over americans?

I have a bridge to sell you in Baghdad ma nig

[Blake]

You really think Dubya woulda done any better? :lmao

If nothing else he would have at least worn a mask before July

[baseline bum]

You think bush would not have lied about the virus being under control? You think bush would not have chosen his billionaires over americans?

I have a bridge to sell you in Baghdad ma nig

Here is a fact: Donald Trump made wearing masks a political issue and people will die from that. I don't want to buy whatever bridge you got sold.

[Blake]

I STILL TAKE DUMP

I heard you should at least twice a day

[ChumpDumper]

No there is no evidence he woulds listened to Fauci
Of course there is.

[Splits]

Here is a fact. Donald Trump has been lying about the virus being under control for five months now. Here is another one: he has made wearing masks into a partisan political issue. He says people wearing masks is just to make him look bad. That alone is enough of a basis to say almost anyone else would have been better.

Still not enough testing capacity in mid-July is the biggest mark, leading to an inability to get it under control, causing 10s of thousands unnecessary deaths. Should have been nationalized in March using all federal resources available.

[tholdren]

Still not enough testing capacity in mid-July is the biggest mark, leading to an inability to get it under control, causing 10s of thousands unnecessary deaths. Should have been nationalized in March using all federal resources available.

wrong

[Splits]

This message is hidden because tholdren is on your ignore list.

[baseline bum]

Still not enough testing capacity in mid-July is the biggest mark, leading to an inability to get it under control, causing 10s of thousands unnecessary deaths. Should have been nationalized in March using all federal resources available.

I though Trump was going to be such a massive clusterfuck on that dark November night of 2016, but even I could have never imagined the lengths he'd go to fuck the country over for the sake of his pencildick ego.

[hater]

I though Trump was going to be such a massive clusterfuck on that dark November night of 2016, but even I could have never imagined the lengths he'd go to fuck the country over for the sake of his pencildick ego.

Im not gonna defend dump on this.

But I also wont defend Bush's worst presidential career ever. Yes worse than Dump. I already listed why.

[baseline bum]

Im not gonna defend dump on this.

But I also wont defend Bush's worst presidential career ever. Yes worse than Dump. I already listed why.

If it wasn't for COVID I'd say Bush was a worse president than Trump, but here we are. Pandemic preparedness was one of Bush's biggest pet projects and there is no question whatsoever America would be far better off with Bush than Trump during this pandemic. Trump's entire strategy is to pretend it's going away and gaslight his followers into thinking masks are for fags.

[Spurminator]

:lmao GTFO

- sept 11
- 08 financial meltdown
- afghan war
-iraq war
- over 1 million iraqi civilian dead
- thousands of american soldiers dead

GTFO bush apologist :lmao

Imagine Trump being President during those disasters.

He'd have called 9/11 a Democrat hoax and put Muslims in concentration camps. Meanwhile we still would've invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. It's truly scary to think about.

[Blake]

Still not enough testing capacity in mid-July is the biggest mark, leading to an inability to get it under control, causing 10s of thousands unnecessary deaths. Should have been nationalized in March using all federal resources available.

No no, this is all on the governors. Trump needs golf.

[Blake]

Imagine Trump being President during those disasters.

He'd have called 9/11 a Democrat hoax and put Muslims in concentration camps. Meanwhile we still would've invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. It's truly scary to think about.

Or Trump would have said "I'll take care of little WMD man Bin Laden" before becoming his best friend

[Splits]

Bush would have read children's books and teleprompters and quietly let the CDC handle the pandemic, leading to ~50k deaths. And Cheney would have invaded Myanmar, saying "real men go to Wuhan" only to get his ass kicked by a bunch of python-wielding farmers

[DMC]

Still not enough testing capacity in mid-July is the biggest mark, leading to an inability to get it under control, causing 10s of thousands unnecessary deaths. Should have been nationalized in March using all federal resources available.

:lol like the manufacturing of these tests and testing equipment, training, validation, facilities.. all would have magically poofed into existence if only it was nationalized. CDC sent out shit kits, great example. Private industry will be the ones to bail the world out, it won't be the nationalization of testing or research.

[Blake]

Bush would have read children's books and teleprompters and quietly let the CDC handle the pandemic, leading to ~50k deaths. And Cheney would have invaded Myanmar, saying "real men go to Wuhan" only to get his ass kicked by a bunch of python-wielding farmers

The winning/losing would be irrelevant as long as halliburton stocks go up a couple of points

[hater]

Imagine Trump being President during those disasters.

He'd have called 9/11 a Democrat hoax and put Muslims in concentration camps. Meanwhile we still would've invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. It's truly scary to think about.

:lmao 1/2 of those were self inflicted by Dubya

[hater]

Bush would have read children's books and teleprompters and quietly let the CDC handle the pandemic, leading to ~50k deaths. And Cheney would have invaded Myanmar, saying "real men go to Wuhan" only to get his ass kicked by a bunch of python-wielding farmers

Lol bullshit

50k died in NYC and NJ onoy and thatbhad nothing to do with Dump

Botched CDC test and no PPE was what happened

Revisionist history tbqh

[hater]

Oh and no regional quarantines also.

And no Bush would not have implemented regional quarantines like in Wuhan. No US president would have inclyding Obama and Clinton

[Spurminator]

:lmao 1/2 of those were self inflicted by Dubya

What makes you think Trump would've reacted any differently to 9/11? What Trump economic policies or regulations do you think would have prevented the 2008 crash?

Honestly the only thing better about a Trump presidency at that time is that it probably would have only been one term.

[DMC]

Imagine Trump being President during those disasters.

He'd have called 9/11 a Democrat hoax and put Muslims in concentration camps. Meanwhile we still would've invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. It's truly scary to think about.

He was a democrat then :lol

[Spurtacular]

Imagine Trump being President during those disasters.

He'd have called 9/11 a Democrat hoax and put Muslims in concentration camps. Meanwhile we still would've invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. It's truly scary to think about.

9/11 wouldn't have happened under Trump, Sadbert.

[Spurminator]

He was a democrat then :lol

The comparison being made isn't President Bush vs. "who Donald Trump was in 2001."

[Spurminator]

9/11 wouldn't have happened under Trump, Sadbert.

Right because the one thing Trump is known for is his attention to intelligence reports. :lmao

[spurraider21]

The comparison being made isn't President Bush vs. "who Donald Trump was in 2001."
he knows. for some reason he just enjoys playing dumb

[Spurtacular]

Right because the one thing Trump is known for is his attention to intelligence reports. :lmao

The Bushes and Cheney were CIA players. I could explain it all, but let's be honest, you're too stupid to know.

[ChumpDumper]

I could explain it allNo you couldn't.

[Spurminator]

The Bushes and Cheney were CIA players. I could explain it all, but let's be honest, you're too stupid to know.

Sorry, I forgot you were a truther. I should've gone with my first instinct to ignore you as usual.

(Incoming nonsensical response in 10 seconds)

[Blake]

The Bushes and Cheney were CIA players. I could explain it all, but let's be honest, you're too stupid to know.

Of course derp is a twoofer

[ducks]

Any president would have said the virus was under control to begin with
Damm people use the head not your heart hatred for trump

[ducks]

9 11 happen under trump
Trump would have used bombs and taught people a lesson.

[Blake]

Any president would have said the virus was under control to begin with
Damm people use the head not your heart hatred for trump

Not any president, but seeing how many stupid governors we currently have, there definitely would be a number that would have acted similarly to Trump.

[Blake]

9 11 happen under trump
Trump would have used bombs and taught people a lesson.

Little WMD rocket man

[hater]

Any president would have said the virus was under control to begin with
Damm people use the head not your heart hatred for trump

Ducks finally with a great post :tu

[hater]

9 11 happen under trump
Trump would have used bombs and taught people a lesson.

Followed by a terrible take again

[hater]

Little WMD rocket man

Yup

Trump talks a big talk but is a peace man.

Iran rained missiles literally on our heads and he did nothing :lol

NK played a t9ugh game and he did nothing

Turkey is basically taking abshit on us and he does nothing

Etc etc

That a good thing tho :tu

I love peace

[Blake]

Ducks finally with a great post :tu

You realize you're agreeing with ducks, right?

[Blake]

Followed by a terrible take again

:lol

[Spurtacular]

Sorry, I forgot you were a truther. I should've gone with my first instinct to ignore you as usual.

(Incoming nonsensical response in 10 seconds)

You should have. Of course, your instincts are what makes you a loser.

[Spurtacular]

Of course derp is a twoofer

Do you think you have mockery card, cuckold?

:lol Dat self awareness

[Blake]

Do you think you have mockery card, cuckold?

:lol Dat self awareness

Dude the forum deck is full of common Mock Derp cards. Everyone has at least one in their hand at all times.

[Spurtacular]

Dude the forum deck is full of common Mock Derp cards. Everyone has at least one in their hand at all times.

All the chumpettes get plastic forks and knives as the kiddie table.

You're a cuckold. Come to terms.

[Splits]

:lol like the manufacturing of these tests and testing equipment, training, validation, facilities.. all would have magically poofed into existence if only it was nationalized. CDC sent out shit kits, great example. Private industry will be the ones to bail the world out, it won't be the nationalization of testing or research.

I don't mean nationalizing the manufacturing, I mean a centralized response to avoid situations like this:

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Still today in some parts of the country it takes a week or more to get results. States are rationing tests so they can get results within 48 hours. People wait in lines for hours and hours to get tested. It's still a huge fucking problem that can't be solved by 50 individual states competing for the same resources without a centralized response. Coordinate the supply chain, fund new facilities and recruit manpower with private industry to process more tests, etc. Yes the CDC fucked up in Feb/Mar but that doesn't mean you throw up your arms and quit. It is still the primary reason places have cases exploding with 20% infection/test rates and can't track and trace with fucking 70k infections a day.

[spurraider21]

I don't mean nationalizing the manufacturing, I mean a centralized response to avoid situations like this:

1283725612348211200

Still today in some parts of the country it takes a week or more to get results. States are rationing tests so they can get results within 48 hours. People wait in lines for hours and hours to get tested. It's still a huge fucking problem that can't be solved by 50 individual states competing for the same resources without a centralized response. Coordinate the supply chain, fund new facilities and recruit manpower with private industry to process more tests, etc. Yes the CDC fucked up in Feb/Mar but that doesn't mean you throw up your arms and quit. It is still the primary reason places have cases exploding with 20% infection/test rates and can't track and trace with fucking 70k infections a day.
Yeah but cuomo nursing homes

[Brazil]

:lol won the election but had actually less people voting for him than Hilarry
:lol USA

also :lol ducks