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DarrinS
09-11-2015, 11:39 AM
Any murder of a police officer is a tragedy. (As is any murder of a non-police officer.) But media outlets, politicians, and police advocates do real damage when they push this false narrative about a rising threat to law enforcement. First, this sort of propaganda weights the public debate and discourse. When there’s a fictional “war on cops” blaring in the background, it becomes much more difficult to have an honest discussion about police cameras, police militarization, use of lethal force policies, police discipline, police transparency (https://twitter.com/romenesko/status/639220767553626112), training, police accountability, and a host of other issues. Of course, that’s precisely the point.http://i57.tinypic.com/qswqqw.png


I agree that false narratives are dangerous.

Example: "Hands up! Don't shoot!"

Trill Clinton
09-11-2015, 11:44 AM
I agree that false narratives are dangerous.

Example: "Hands up! Don't shoot!"

when faced with facts that don't work in their favor, white supremacists tend to use the deflect method as we see young darren doing herehttp://i57.tinypic.com/qswqqw.jpg

DarrinS
09-11-2015, 12:03 PM
when faced with facts that don't work in their favor, white supremacists tend to use the deflect method as we see young darren doing herehttp://i57.tinypic.com/qswqqw.jpg

Hands up, don't shoot was a lie from the start. I can't believe BLM still invokes the name of thuglet, Mike Brown.

Trill Clinton
09-11-2015, 12:08 PM
Hands up, don't shoot was a lie from the start. I can't believe BLM still invokes the name of thuglet, Mike Brown.

there is a thread on mike brown, several of them. take your deflections there. if you want to talk about the lie that is the war on cops, then lets talk about that.

Winehole23
09-11-2015, 03:10 PM
long-form crime stats article in FivrThirtyEight:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/scare-headlines-exaggerated-the-u-s-crime-wave/

DarrinS
09-11-2015, 03:26 PM
long-form crime stats article in FivrThirtyEight:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/scare-headlines-exaggerated-the-u-s-crime-wave/

St Louis and Baltimore up significantly.

boutons_deux
09-11-2015, 03:29 PM
All the rightwingnuts have is LIES

Once again: There is no ‘war on cops.’ And those who claim otherwise are playing a dangerous game.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/09/10/once-again-there-is-no-war-on-cops-and-those-who-claim-otherwise-are-playing-a-dangerous-game/

Clipper Nation
09-11-2015, 09:22 PM
Despite a new stream of lies from the liberal media, the War on Cops continues. Cleveland Police on high alert over a credible threat to ambush them on the street:

http://fox8.com/2015/09/10/police-union-president-cleveland-officers-on-alert-for-ambush/

Earlier this month, Cleveland police officers were shot at. Luckily, they all managed to escape unhurt:

http://fox8.com/2015/09/02/i-team-shots-fired-at-cleveland-police-officers-overnight/

#PoliceLivesMatter

cd021
09-11-2015, 10:25 PM
Hands up, don't shoot was a lie from the start. I can't believe BLM still invokes the name of thuglet, Mike Brown.

They do have 25 unarmed blacks to chose from this year. One of them was shot in the face a point blank range and another shot 8 times in the back. Would those be better choices for you?

Winehole23
09-12-2015, 03:36 AM
St Louis and Baltimore up significantly.Two data points out of thousands. Why pick them out? Are they representative of the aggregate?

Winehole23
09-12-2015, 03:39 AM
Despite a new stream of lies from the liberal media, the War on Cops continues. Cleveland Police on high alert over a credible threat to ambush them on the street:

http://fox8.com/2015/09/10/police-union-president-cleveland-officers-on-alert-for-ambush/

Earlier this month, Cleveland police officers were shot at. Luckily, they all managed to escape unhurt:

http://fox8.com/2015/09/02/i-team-shots-fired-at-cleveland-police-officers-overnight/

#PoliceLivesMatter2013 and 2015 are the safest years for cops since 1887 according to AEI. Do you disagree? why or why not?

Winehole23
09-12-2015, 04:00 AM
St Louis and Baltimore up significantly.If you think crime stats from two cities stand for the entire US, you're an idiot.

DarrinS
09-12-2015, 08:18 AM
If you think crime stats from two cities stand for the entire US, you're an idiot.

Did I say that?

Just a coincidence that two cities where a a prominent BLM martyr was killed, the crime rate has risen significantly.

djohn2oo8
09-12-2015, 10:27 AM
But what about James Blake?

Winehole23
09-12-2015, 11:54 AM
Did I say that?

Just a coincidence that two cities where a a prominent BLM martyr was killed, the crime rate has risen significantly.do you have a point, or just clearing your throat?

Winehole23
09-12-2015, 01:51 PM
Radley Balko with the goods:


So when police advocates say that 2014 saw an 80+ percent increase in homicides of cops over 2013, remember a few things: First, 2013 wasn’t just an all-time low, it was an all-time low by a significant margin. Second, the 2013 figure was so low that even a small increase will look large when expressed as a percentage. Third, the figure for the following year, 2014, (51 officers killed) was essentially consistent with the average for the previous five years (50 killed), and still lower than any five-year average going back to 1960. (See this graph (http://i1.wp.com/danwang.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/average-police-fatalities-decade.png), also from Wang.) Fourth, again, 2015 is on pace (35 killings) to be lower than any year but 2013. Another common response from police organizations and their advocates is that the reduction in fatalities is due to better medical care and improvements in protective gear such as bulletproof vests. Both things are undoubtedly true. But assaults on police officers are in decline as well. That is, not only are fewer people killing police officers, fewer people are trying to harm them. These graphs from Stoughton show the raw numbers of assaults on police:


https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp-content/uploads/sites/22/2015/09/AssaultGraph.jpg

https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp-content/uploads/sites/22/2015/09/WeaponGraph.jpg


As you can see, at best you could argue that assaults on police with firearms are about even with where they’ve been for most of the last decade, save for a dip in 2009 and 2010. But these too are raw figures. When we look at the rate of assault on cops, from either the perspective of total cops or total population, the downward trend once again becomes more pronounced. From Daniel Bier (http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2014/08/21/methodological-notes-on-police-fatalities-and-assaults/), here are two graphs looking at the assault rates on police officers.


https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp-content/uploads/sites/22/2015/09/20150320_assaultandinjuryrates1.png

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/09/10/once-again-there-is-no-war-on-cops-and-those-who-claim-otherwise-are-playing-a-dangerous-game/

Winehole23
09-12-2015, 01:53 PM
Any murder of a police officer is a tragedy. (As is any murder of a non-police officer.) But media outlets, politicians, and police advocates do real damage when they push this false narrative about a rising threat to law enforcement. First, this sort of propaganda weights the public debate and discourse. When there’s a fictional “war on cops” blaring in the background, it becomes much more difficult to have an honest discussion about police cameras, police militarization, use of lethal force policies, police discipline, police transparency (https://twitter.com/romenesko/status/639220767553626112), training, police accountability, and a host of other issues. Of course, that’s precisely the point.


But there’s also a much more pernicious effect of exaggerating the threats faced by law enforcement. When cops are constantly told that they’re under constant fire, or that every interaction with a citizen could be their last, or that they’re fortunate each time they come home from the job in one piece, it’s absolute poison for police-community relations. That kind of reminder on a regular basis would put anyone on edge. We’re putting police officers in a perpetually combative mindset that psychologically isolates them from the communities they serve. Incessantly telling cops that they’re under fire can condition them to see the people with whom they interact not as citizens with rights, but as potential threats. That not only means more animosity, anger and confrontation, it can also be a barrier to building relationships with people in the community — the sorts of relationships that help police officers solve crimes and keep communities safe.

same

Winehole23
09-12-2015, 01:55 PM
One last point: I’ve seen some police officials and their advocates respond to these statistics by pointing out that even if assaults and killings of cops are down, anti-police rhetoric is increasing. Therefore, they say, they’re justified in proclaiming that there’s a war on the police. This is nonsense. Police agencies are government agencies. They’re government agencies in whom we entrust the power to detain, arrest, and kill. Yes, it’s true that some people are demanding more of those agencies. It’s true that personal technology is enabling people to create an independent video narrative of their interactions with police. It’s true that those videos have sometimes revealed police misconduct and brutality, and that police officers, like all people, sometimes mis-remember, misstate, and outright lie when recounting contentious, traumatic, high-stakes incidents. And it’s true that because of all of this, the public as a whole today finds police officers as a whole less trustworthy than in the past (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/26/public-trust-police-low-poll-finds/). It’s also true that some activists, pundits, and politicians are demanding more accountability, transparency, and training for police.


None of these things are indicative of a “war.” On the contrary, all of this new skepticism, criticism, forced transparency, and mistrust of the police is — again — coming even as violence against police officers is reaching historic lows. This is how a democracy is supposed to work. It’s something worth celebrating.


Instead, police groups and their advocates are claiming that the mere act of criticizing a government entity is akin to declaring war on it, and that therefore, police critics are culpable every time a police officer is murdered. (And given the way they ignore and abuse statistics, those critics are also apparently culpable for a lot of murders that never happened.) They’re essentially saying that exercising constitutional rights and participating in democracy are in and of themselves acts of violence. And in many cases, this is coming from the very people that the government empowers to use actual violence.


That is something worth worrying about.

same

Splits
09-12-2015, 05:04 PM
Radley Balko with the goods:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/09/10/once-again-there-is-no-war-on-cops-and-those-who-claim-otherwise-are-playing-a-dangerous-game/

Oh gee, an actual Libertarian with actual data and actual analysis.

Clipper Nation
09-12-2015, 06:00 PM
Oh gee, an actual Libertarian with actual data and actual analysis.

> "Actual libertarian"
> Got his start at Karl Rove's neocon Leadership Institute, organizing Rove's seminars for him
> Voted for Bob Dole (neocon), Dubya (neocon), and Kerry (liberal)

This guy has hopped on the liberal anti-cop narrative in order to get mainstream attention while posing as a libertarian in order to keep up his right-wing street cred. The funniest thing of all is that the anti-cop libs on here would loathe his defense of the Stand Your Ground laws.

Splits
09-12-2015, 06:13 PM
> "Actual libertarian"
> Got his start at Karl Rove's neocon Leadership Institute, organizing Rove's seminars for him
> Voted for Bob Dole (neocon), Dubya (neocon), and Kerry (liberal)

This guy has hopped on the liberal anti-cop narrative in order to get mainstream attention while posing as a libertarian in order to keep up his right-wing street cred. The funniest thing of all is that the anti-cop libs on here would loathe his defense of the Stand Your Ground laws.

Oh please. Keep reaching. Balko is the most prominent libertarian in this country. He has been pro-justice for as long as I've read him, which goes back a long way. I don't agree with him on many/most of his views, but he is consistent and the last thing he does is "hop" on bandwagons (hilarious coming from you, the site's biggest bandwagoner). He also saved an innocent man's life from death row.

spurraider21
09-12-2015, 06:46 PM
Any murder of a police officer is a tragedy. (As is any murder of a non-police officer.) But media outlets, politicians, and police advocates do real damage when they push this false narrative about a rising threat to law enforcement. First, this sort of propaganda weights the public debate and discourse. When there’s a fictional “war on cops” blaring in the background, it becomes much more difficult to have an honest discussion about police cameras, police militarization, use of lethal force policies, police discipline, police transparency (https://twitter.com/romenesko/status/639220767553626112), training, police accountability, and a host of other issues. Of course, that’s precisely the point.http://i57.tinypic.com/qswqqw.png
its weird that you like to suppress one false narrative while propping up another http://i57.tinypic.com/qswqqw.png

Clipper Nation
09-12-2015, 07:25 PM
Balko is the most prominent libertarian in this country.

Ron Paul would like a word.

Splits
09-12-2015, 07:34 PM
Ron Paul would like a word.

:lol if there were ever a faux-libertarian, Ron and his son are at the top of the list

boutons_deux
09-12-2015, 08:00 PM
War on Cops? Big LIE

War on Christmas? Big LIE

War on Christians? Big LIE

Black Lives Matter is criminalized as extremist, provoking the War on Cops? Big LIE

Benghazi? Big LIE

Obamacare is a job killer? Big LIE

Social Security is broke? Big LIE

AGW is a farce? Big LIE

etc, etc, etc. Fox/VWRC/Repugs/ST rightwingnuts have got nothing but lies.

TheSanityAnnex
09-12-2015, 08:12 PM
War on Cops? Big LIE

War on Christmas? Big LIE

War on Christians? Big LIE

Black Lives Matter is criminalized as extremist, provoking the War on Cops? Big LIE

Benghazi? Big LIE

Obamacare is a job killer? Big LIE

Social Security is broke? Big LIE

AGW is a farce? Big LIE

etc, etc, etc. Fox/VWRC/Repugs/ST rightwingnuts have got nothing but lies.what about hands up don't shoot?

ChumpDumper
09-12-2015, 08:18 PM
what about hands up don't shoot?In Bexar County?

boutons_deux
09-12-2015, 08:25 PM
what about hands up don't shoot?

what about it? wasn't a LIE, it was very expressive protest symbol of unarmed and/or non-threatening (black) people getting shot many times, killed by cops.

Clipper Nation
09-12-2015, 09:12 PM
The War on Cops has led to 482 extra murder victims in the top 60 largest cities in America:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/12/study-482-extra-murder-victims-amid-obamas-anti-cop-campaign/

Clipper Nation
09-12-2015, 09:12 PM
what about it? wasn't a LIE, it was very expressive protest symbol of unarmed and/or non-threatening (black) people getting shot many times, killed by cops.

It was a total lie:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/03/19/hands-up-dont-shoot-did-not-happen-in-ferguson/

Quetzal-X
09-13-2015, 04:03 AM
What a fucking shitty industry .

Trill Clinton
09-13-2015, 10:57 AM
#copslivesmatter

ChumpDumper
09-13-2015, 11:06 AM
The War on Cops has led to 482 extra murder victims in the top 60 largest cities in America:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/12/study-482-extra-murder-victims-amid-obamas-anti-cop-campaign/:lol breitbart is really trying here.

Cop killings are down.

lol war

Clipper Nation
09-13-2015, 11:17 AM
Fraud King denies the War on Cops - much like he denies anything that is the truth:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/12/shaun-king-denies-dehumanizing-war-on-cops-attacks-sarah-palin/

boutons_deux
09-13-2015, 08:48 PM
It was a total lie:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/03/19/hands-up-dont-shoot-did-not-happen-in-ferguson/

it was and still is a PERFECT SYMBOL of BLM and excessive killing of blacks the cops.

Clipper Nation
09-13-2015, 08:53 PM
it was and still is a PERFECT SYMBOL of BLM and excessive killing of blacks the cops.
:cry Who cares about the truth? It's a SYMBOL! :cry

boutons_deux
09-13-2015, 09:00 PM
:cry Who cares about the truth?

not you you cop suckers, rightwingnuts, breitbart, Christian Taliban, etc.

DarrinS
09-13-2015, 09:30 PM
it was and still is a PERFECT SYMBOL of BLM and excessive killing of blacks the cops.

Credibility be damned

boutons_deux
09-13-2015, 10:05 PM
Credibility be damned

BLM has much more credibility, plus all the videos, than the corrupt prosecutors and lying, cover up cops Blue Wall.

Clipper Nation
09-13-2015, 10:07 PM
BLM has much more credibility, plus all the videos, than the corrupt prosecutors and lying, cover up cops Blue Wall.
Fraud King and DeRaycist just ooze credibility.

DarrinS
09-14-2015, 11:17 AM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/kentucky-state-trooper-fatally-shot-in-western-kentucky/ar-AAegpTU?ocid=ansmsnnews11

Winehole23
09-14-2015, 12:35 PM
the crime rate is much closer to the historical low than the historic high of the 1970s.

y'all keep riding that bandwagon, though.

Winehole23
09-14-2015, 12:37 PM
so called conservatives and libertarians are very afraid and want you to be too.

the police power is our only hope!:cry

ChumpDumper
09-14-2015, 12:40 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/kentucky-state-trooper-fatally-shot-in-western-kentucky/ar-AAegpTU?ocid=ansmsnnews11How come you didn't post every cop murder before now?

Spurminator
09-14-2015, 01:31 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/kentucky-state-trooper-fatally-shot-in-western-kentucky/ar-AAegpTU?ocid=ansmsnnews11

Obviously this shady asshole was so influenced by #BLM that he planned to be pulled over and lead this cop on a chase before shooting him.

Clipper Nation
09-14-2015, 02:21 PM
the crime rate is much closer to the historical low than the historic high of the 1970s.

y'all keep riding that bandwagon, though.
Police use of force has been on the decline for years.

Keep riding that bandwagon, though.

boutons_deux
09-14-2015, 02:28 PM
Police use of force has been on the decline for years.

Keep riding that bandwagon, though.

You Lie

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/vd-vcjwR_aF73rL9QQAZ-9ctbNddCLoJf6k6Qi5B-l8HpKUEHd6tFmt9CU7M707f0NHg6izrY-UqlGREZHsb2OsaU81HU6sR962mf5RNmdMMUCAfgWxt5E_8E0aV y0SMgw

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/dec/03/marc-morial/are-deaths-police-shootings-highest-20-years/

Clipper Nation
09-14-2015, 02:31 PM
You Lie

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/vd-vcjwR_aF73rL9QQAZ-9ctbNddCLoJf6k6Qi5B-l8HpKUEHd6tFmt9CU7M707f0NHg6izrY-UqlGREZHsb2OsaU81HU6sR962mf5RNmdMMUCAfgWxt5E_8E0aV y0SMgw

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/dec/03/marc-morial/are-deaths-police-shootings-highest-20-years/
That graph cherry-picks one form of police use of force. Even worse for your case, it shows justifiable homicides - officers lawfully acting in self-defense in a "kill or be killed" situation. Only an ideologue who wants police officers to be killed could possibly criticize the cops instead of the criminals for an increase in that particular type of force.

:lol Boutards

boutons_deux
09-14-2015, 02:44 PM
That graph cherry-picks one form of police use of force. Even worse for your case, it shows justifiable homicides - officers lawfully acting in self-defense in a "kill or be killed" situation.

"one use of force" :lol yes shooting people dead, more and more in the past 15 years is a "one use of force", as violent crime has decreased over the same period.

All police killings are "justified", as justified by the corrupt police and corrupt prosecutors.

TheSanityAnnex
09-14-2015, 10:05 PM
BLM member kills cop.

http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/police-kill-north-county-man-wanted-in-fatal-shooting-of/article_f4629c92-1769-557f-841d-2f8446c162cd.html?mobile_touch=true

DarrinS
09-14-2015, 11:28 PM
BLM member kills cop.

http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/police-kill-north-county-man-wanted-in-fatal-shooting-of/article_f4629c92-1769-557f-841d-2f8446c162cd.html?mobile_touch=true


Oops

ChumpDumper
09-14-2015, 11:33 PM
BLM member kills cop.

http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/police-kill-north-county-man-wanted-in-fatal-shooting-of/article_f4629c92-1769-557f-841d-2f8446c162cd.html?mobile_touch=trueThe word "matter" doesn't even show up in the article.

Another TSA fear mongering failure.

:crymember:cry

Clipper Nation
09-15-2015, 12:03 AM
BLM member kills cop.

http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/police-kill-north-county-man-wanted-in-fatal-shooting-of/article_f4629c92-1769-557f-841d-2f8446c162cd.html?mobile_touch=true

In before Boutards and Winegloryhole show up to semen-shield. Who cares about dead cops and their families, they've got a narrative to push!

Winehole23
09-15-2015, 12:59 AM
so do you, and it's a big fat lie.

do you really think that telling a big lie over and over again works?

Winehole23
09-15-2015, 01:00 AM
it's never been safer to be a cop in the USA, according to AEI. are they semen shields too?

Winehole23
09-15-2015, 01:01 AM
stats don't lie, but you never stop.

Winehole23
09-15-2015, 01:02 AM
Police use of force has been on the decline for years.

Keep riding that bandwagon, though.deadly conduct much less so. you keep ignoring that.

Winehole23
09-15-2015, 01:12 AM
that use of force complaints are down I already acknowledged.

are you addicted to misrepresenting what people say?

are you a liar?

Winehole23
09-15-2015, 01:38 AM
don't citizens have the right to complain about unnecessary force, brutality and death dealt by the police, even if the incidence is down?

what kind of fucking libertarian are you, reflexively taking the side of police power against free citizens?

Winehole23
09-15-2015, 01:41 AM
Face it: the war on cops is a lie. About the biggest one you could tell. No stats to support it.

Clipper Nation
09-15-2015, 08:58 AM
Gloryhole melting down - not because of the dead cops, but because people are talking about the dead cops.

Libcucks :lol

Spurminator
09-15-2015, 09:09 AM
Gloryhole melting down - not because of the dead cops, but because people are talking about the dead cops.

Libcucks :lol

At this point you might as well just post "I know you are but what am I?" over and over. This is basically what you're reduced to.

ChumpDumper
09-15-2015, 09:22 AM
Gloryhole melting down - not because of the dead cops, but because people are talking about the dead cops.

Libcucks :lolYou're only talking about dead cops because someone told you to. You're such a good little follower.

boutons_deux
09-15-2015, 09:27 AM
Stats don't lie

rightwingnuts lie non-stop

TheSanityAnnex
09-15-2015, 10:43 AM
The word "matter" doesn't even show up in the article.

Another TSA fear mongering failure.

:crymember:cry

:cry it doesn't say "matter" it's not true :cry

Here you go faggot, Black Lives Matter in the title

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/suspect-trooper-death-black-lives-matter-backer-article-1.2360320

ChumpDumper
09-15-2015, 10:56 AM
:cry it doesn't say "matter" it's not true :cry

Here you go faggot, Black Lives Matter in the title

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/suspect-trooper-death-black-lives-matter-backer-article-1.2360320:crymember:cry

The patented TSA walkback begins.

You should just not lie in the first place.

lol facebook

DarrinS
09-15-2015, 10:59 AM
:crymember:cry

The patented TSA walkback begins.

You should just not lie in the first place.

lol facebook


meh, advocate/member, who cares?

ChumpDumper
09-15-2015, 11:04 AM
meh, advocate/member, who cares?Of course you guys care when it fits your media directed daily agenda.

Not one of you gave a shit about the number of cops shot when the number of cops killed was actually higher.

TheSanityAnnex
09-15-2015, 11:39 AM
:crymember:cry

The patented TSA walkback begins.

You should just not lie in the first place.

lol facebook

:cry semantics :cry

ChumpDumper
09-15-2015, 11:47 AM
:cry semantics :cryHow does one become a :crymember:cry of BLM, TSA?

Why weren't you so concerned about cop murders when more cops were actually being murdered?

What changed?

Spurminator
09-15-2015, 12:52 PM
The Columbine shooters played video games.

TheSanityAnnex
09-15-2015, 01:35 PM
Face it: the war on cops is a lie. About the biggest one you could tell. No stats to support it.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/fbi-number-cops-killed-duty-has-spiked

FBI: Number of cops killed on duty has spiked

The number of police officers feloniously killed in the line of duty spiked to 51 in 2014, up almost 89% from the 27 cops who were killed in 2013, a record low year, according to the FBI (http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2014-preliminary-statistics-for-law-enforcement-officers-killed-in-the-line-of-duty?utm_campaign=email-Immediate&utm_medium=email&utm_source=national-press-releases&utm_content=428743).

Trill Clinton
09-15-2015, 01:43 PM
lol

Trill Clinton
09-15-2015, 01:44 PM
643415398810054656

thanks obama!

cops lives matter! oops, i mean, all lives matter!!...no wait..

boutons_deux
09-15-2015, 01:50 PM
who killed the cops in the spike? whites, blacks, browns. Cops of course kill themselves regularly. Many of them are obviously shitty people not up to the job.

were the cops killed because of BLM, by BLM, as you rightwingnut assholes suggest.

Clipper Nation
09-15-2015, 02:26 PM
643415398810054656

thanks obama!

cops lives matter! oops, i mean, all lives matter!!...no wait..
:lol Fraud King

Guess that means more cops have been killed during Obummer's presidency than ever before, then.

DisAsTerBot
09-15-2015, 02:28 PM
from the article posted above :
In 2015, 44 police officers have been killed across the United States, according to Officer Down Memorial Page, which tracks officers killed in the line of duty. Of that total, 12 died as a result of car accidents, 11 died of heart attacks, 10 were shot and others died as a result of being struck by vehicles, vehicle pursuits, assaults or accidents.

While the FBI keeps a meticulous record of the number of police killed in duty, the number of people killed by the police is largely unknown.

Police departments are not required to report to the federal government how many people they kill each year. Instead, law enforcement agencies have the option to self-report. As recently as 2012 only about 4% of America’s 17,000 law enforcement agencies have self-reported their homicide totals to the FBI.

TheSanityAnnex
09-15-2015, 02:38 PM
from the article posted above :
In 2015, 44 police officers have been killed across the United States, according to Officer Down Memorial Page, which tracks officers killed in the line of duty. Of that total, 12 died as a result of car accidents, 11 died of heart attacks, 10 were shot and others died as a result of being struck by vehicles, vehicle pursuits, assaults or accidents.


Those 44 weren't killed feloniously. Article doesn't make that clear but the fbi.gov link does.

"An additional 44 officers were accidentally killed in the line of duty in 2014. This total represents five officers fewer than the 49 officers who were accidentally killed in 2013. By region, 19 officers died due to accidents in the South, 13 in the West, seven in the Northeast, four in the Midwest, and one in Puerto Rico."

TheSanityAnnex
09-15-2015, 02:40 PM
Face it: the war on cops is a lie. About the biggest one you could tell. No stats to support it.
Preliminary statistics released today by the FBI show that 51 law enforcement officers were feloniously killed in the line of duty in 2014. This is an increase of almost 89 percent when compared to the 27 officers killed in 2013. (Note: From 1980–2014, an average of 64 law enforcement officers have been feloniously killed per year. The 2013 total, 27, was the lowest during this 35-year period.) By region, 17 officers died as a result of criminal acts that occurred in the South, 14 officers in the West, eight officers in the Midwest, eight in the Northeast, and four in Puerto Rico.
By circumstance, 11 officers died from injuries inflicted as a result of answering disturbance calls (one of which was a domestic disturbance). Ten officers were conducting traffic pursuits or stops, eight were killed as a result of ambushes (six due to entrapment/premeditated situations and two during unprovoked attacks), and six officers were investigating suspicious persons or circumstances. Five officers sustained fatal injuries while they were performing investigative activities, four while they were engaged in tactical situations, three officers were handling persons with mental illness, and one officer was slain during a drug-related matter. Three officers were killed while attempting other arrests.
Offenders used firearms in 46 of the 51 felonious deaths. These included 32 incidents with handguns, 11 incidents with rifles, and three incidents with shotguns. Four victim officers were killed with vehicles used as weapons, and one was killed with the offender’s personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.).
Thirty-five of the slain officers were confirmed to be wearing body armor at the times of the incidents. Five of the 51 officers killed fired their own weapons, and six officers attempted to fire their service weapons. Seven victim officers had their weapons stolen; one officer was killed with his own weapon.
The 51 victim officers died from injuries sustained in 48 separate incidents. All 48 of those incidents have been cleared by arrest or exceptional means.

DisAsTerBot
09-15-2015, 02:41 PM
no, the 44 is the number of officers killed in 2015. Don't know why you're stuck on 2014

Spurminator
09-15-2015, 02:43 PM
Note: From 1980–2014, an average of 64 law enforcement officers have been feloniously killed per year. The 2013 total, 27, was the lowest during this 35-year period

So 2013 was an anomaly and sounds like the number of officers feloniously killed in 2015 is trending well below the average of the last 35 years as well.

ChumpDumper
09-15-2015, 02:55 PM
:crySpiking to well below average:cry

TheSanityAnnex
09-15-2015, 03:07 PM
no, the 44 is the number of officers killed in 2015. Don't know why you're stuck on 2014

I was talking about 2014 and the FBI report and assumed glanced over the 44 killed.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2014-preliminary-statistics-for-law-enforcement-officers-killed-in-the-line-of-duty?utm_campaign=email-Immediate&utm_medium=email&utm_source=national-press-releases&utm_content=428743

Preliminary statistics released today by the FBI show that 51 law enforcement officers were feloniously killed in the line of duty in 2014. This is an increase of almost 89 percent when compared to the 27 officers killed in 2013. (Note: From 1980–2014, an average of 64 law enforcement officers have been feloniously killed per year. The 2013 total, 27, was the lowest during this 35-year period.) By region, 17 officers died as a result of criminal acts that occurred in the South, 14 officers in the West, eight officers in the Midwest, eight in the Northeast, and four in Puerto Rico.
By circumstance, 11 officers died from injuries inflicted as a result of answering disturbance calls (one of which was a domestic disturbance). Ten officers were conducting traffic pursuits or stops, eight were killed as a result of ambushes (six due to entrapment/premeditated situations and two during unprovoked attacks), and six officers were investigating suspicious persons or circumstances. Five officers sustained fatal injuries while they were performing investigative activities, four while they were engaged in tactical situations, three officers were handling persons with mental illness, and one officer was slain during a drug-related matter. Three officers were killed while attempting other arrests.
Offenders used firearms in 46 of the 51 felonious deaths. These included 32 incidents with handguns, 11 incidents with rifles, and three incidents with shotguns. Four victim officers were killed with vehicles used as weapons, and one was killed with the offender’s personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.).
Thirty-five of the slain officers were confirmed to be wearing body armor at the times of the incidents. Five of the 51 officers killed fired their own weapons, and six officers attempted to fire their service weapons. Seven victim officers had their weapons stolen; one officer was killed with his own weapon.
The 51 victim officers died from injuries sustained in 48 separate incidents. All 48 of those incidents have been cleared by arrest or exceptional means.
An additional 44 officers were accidentally killed in the line of duty in 2014. This total represents five officers fewer than the 49 officers who were accidentally killed in 2013. By region, 19 officers died due to accidents in the South, 13 in the West, seven in the Northeast, four in the Midwest, and one in Puerto Rico.
Twenty-eight of the officers died as a result of automobile accidents, six were in motorcycle accidents, and five were struck by vehicles. Two of the officers were killed from accidental shootings, one from drowning, one from blunt force trauma, and one died as a result of smoke inhalation.
Of the 28 officers who died due to automobile accidents, 15 officers were wearing seatbelts. 10 officers were not wearing seatbelts (six of whom were ejected from the vehicles), and seatbelt use was not reported for three of the officers who were killed due to automobile accidents.

TheSanityAnnex
09-15-2015, 03:11 PM
So 2013 was an anomaly and sounds like the number of officers feloniously killed in 2015 is trending well below the average of the last 35 years as well.

Or the beginning of a new trend, we'll never know. To claim officer killings haven't been on the rise in recent years is false.

spurraider21
09-15-2015, 03:20 PM
Of course you guys care when it fits your media directed daily agenda.

Not one of you gave a shit about the number of cops shot when the number of cops killed was actually higher.
the parallel to "why don't you guys care about black on black crime?"

:cry let's stop talking about these murders, let's talk about the other ones

spurraider21
09-15-2015, 03:24 PM
Or the beginning of a new trend, we'll never know. To claim officer killings haven't been on the rise in recent years is false.
Actually we'll know in a few years

ChumpDumper
09-15-2015, 03:37 PM
the parallel to "why don't you guys care about black on black crime?"

:cry let's stop talking about these murders, let's talk about the other onesI'm all for talking about all of them. Each is bad enough without having to warp it with agendas.

DisAsTerBot
09-15-2015, 03:37 PM
Or the beginning of a new trend, we'll never know. To claim officer killings haven't been on the rise in recent years is false.

except for the fact that it is at, or rather, below the 35 year average.

ChumpDumper
09-15-2015, 03:39 PM
Or the beginning of a new trend, we'll never know. To claim officer killings haven't been on the rise in recent years is false.It's on the way down this year from last year.

Does that fit the agenda?

TheSanityAnnex
09-15-2015, 03:44 PM
except for the fact that it is at, or rather, below the 35 year average.

We hit a record low and then Mike Brown happened so it's difficult to call it one way or another. The recent rise in anti-cop rhetoric follows the recent rise in cop killings. Make of it as you wish.

ChumpDumper
09-15-2015, 03:50 PM
We hit a record low and then Mike Brown happened so it's difficult to call it one way or another. The recent rise in anti-cop rhetoric follows the recent rise in cop killings. Make of it as you wish.What would be the cause of this year's fall in cop killings?

Th'Pusher
09-15-2015, 10:50 PM
:lol Fraud King

Guess that means more cops have been killed during Obummer's presidency than ever before, then.
It took a bit longer than expected, but most people appear to be on to the the fact that you're obviously an unintelligent man with a very limited shtick. so what's the next move? The libertarian bullshit hasn't panned out, because it's made up and you're uninformed and not qualified to discuss issues at anything more than a basic level cribbed from ronpaul.com ( Godord and Xeer ) :lol.

So, What's next? Fake black guy's way overdone. Neo nazi shtick is ridiculously overdone.

do you have anything exciting or entertaining planned?

Looking forward to see what's next.

Clipper Nation
09-17-2015, 04:30 PM
Berlin police shoot dead convicted militant Islamist after knife attackhttp://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/17/us-germany-shooting-idUSKCN0RH2B920150917

In before the bleeding-hearts blame the police for shooting the guy and not the terrorist for killing a policewoman in the first place.

Spurminator
09-17-2015, 05:41 PM
Berlin police shoot dead convicted militant Islamist after knife attack

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/17/us-germany-shooting-idUSKCN0RH2B920150917

In before the bleeding-hearts blame the police for shooting the guy and not the terrorist for killing a policewoman in the first place.


Yep, you beat all us libtards to the punch. I was just typing up my SJW essay on police brutality against cop-stabbers.

Th'Pusher
09-17-2015, 09:08 PM
Berlin police shoot dead convicted militant Islamist after knife attack

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/17/us-germany-shooting-idUSKCN0RH2B920150917

In before the bleeding-hearts blame the police for shooting the guy and not the terrorist for killing a policewoman in the first place.
So you're still soldiering on despite the fact everyone has discovered you're a moron incapable of defending your belief system. Humiliating.

Splits
09-17-2015, 10:54 PM
Thank god it is nearly impossible to get a gun in Germany. Otherwise that cop would be dead instead of recovering from stab wounds in the hospital.

DarrinS
09-18-2015, 06:42 PM
:lmao @ this woman

Z8gFm_0jZxs

Winehole23
09-19-2015, 04:16 AM
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/texas-man-busted-for-falsely-accusing-blacklivesmatter-supporters-of-vandalizing-his-truck/

djohn2oo8
09-24-2015, 07:53 AM
No talk about Deputy Gorforth's mistress?

Clipper Nation
09-24-2015, 07:57 AM
No talk about Deputy Gorforth's mistress?
If Freddie Gray's history of "crash-for-cash" schemes or Eric Garner's 30 arrests in 34 years weren't "relevant," then neither is Goforth's mistress.

DarrinS
09-24-2015, 08:03 AM
No talk about Deputy Gorforth's mistress?

Was the mistress the wife or girlfriend of the dude that killed him?

Winehole23
09-24-2015, 08:29 AM
If Freddie Gray's history of "crash-for-cash" schemes or Eric Garner's 30 arrests in 34 years weren't "relevant," then neither is Goforth's mistress.how are the rap sheets relevant to the deadly police conduct causing each man to die?

Winehole23
09-24-2015, 08:32 AM
does having a record authorize LE to slay you like a wild animal?

Winehole23
09-24-2015, 08:35 AM
for running away and for selling loose cigs?

Clipper Nation
09-24-2015, 08:44 AM
how are the rap sheets relevant to the deadly police conduct causing each man to die?
How is the mistress relevant to the police officer getting murdered in cold blood?

Winehole23
09-24-2015, 08:50 AM
that's not an answer. the alleged mistress in the car only has explanatory value if she is telling the truth. even if she is, that does not exculpate the murderer.

Winehole23
09-24-2015, 08:56 AM
so then, even if Garner and Grey's rap sheets in some fashion contextualize LEs lawless and deadly actions in each case, in no way do they mitigate the legal and professional consequences for the officers involved.

we expect better of civil servants. regardless of anyone's rap sheet.

boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 10:02 AM
"we expect better of civil servants"

at some point, we stop such expectations.

New expectations are that ALL the cops, sheriffs, sheriff deputies, and prosecutors are suspected of being BAD cops, guilty of brutality, harassment, corruption, bogus civil forfeiture, racism, murder, framing of innocents, suppression of exculpating evidence, BlueWalling, gratuitous SWATting, until proven otherwise.

And FUCK them and their whining and bitching about being suspects.

Winehole23
09-24-2015, 10:25 AM
New expectations are that ALL the cops, sheriffs, sheriff deputies, and prosecutors are suspected of being BAD cops, guilty of brutality, harassment, corruption, bogus civil forfeiture, racism, murder, framing of innocents, suppression of exculpating evidence, BlueWalling, gratuitous SWATting, until proven otherwise.bullshit. LEOs and prosecutors deserve the same presumption of innocence and due process as everyone else.

Spurminator
09-24-2015, 10:28 AM
"we expect better of civil servants"

at some point, we stop such expectations.

New expectations are that ALL the cops, sheriffs, sheriff deputies, and prosecutors are suspected of being BAD cops, guilty of brutality, harassment, corruption, bogus civil forfeiture, racism, murder, framing of innocents, suppression of exculpating evidence, BlueWalling, gratuitous SWATting, until proven otherwise.

And FUCK them and their whining and bitching about being suspects.





People like you make it harder for reasonable people to speak out on injustice.

Stop being an easy target. Go outside for once. Get a life. Meet people. Learn to love.

boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 10:28 AM
bullshit. LEOs and prosecutors deserve the same presumption of innocence and due process as everyone else.

B U L L S H I T

when the law enforcement and TSA stop suspecting everybody of being criminals, terrorists, needing to be scanned, verified, sting-ed, SWATted, we can return the favor.

Winehole23
09-24-2015, 10:34 AM
you're welcome to presume whatever you want, LE shouldn't be.

Clipper Nation
09-24-2015, 10:34 AM
Boutards with the bads, per par. Weren't you all for closing Gitmo? I guess you think terrorists deserve due process but police officers don't?

boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 10:38 AM
Boutards with the bads, per par. Weren't you all for closing Gitmo? I guess you think terrorists deserve due process but police officers don't?

LE, and along with the military, are way too adored, left unchecked, and we get screwed, by the 1000s.

Why do you think cops HATE being video'd in public by bystanders?

50K+ SWAT raids per year? G M A F B

Clipper Nation
09-24-2015, 10:40 AM
LE, and along with the military, are way too adored, left unchecked, and we get screwed, by the 1000s.

Why do you think cops HATE being video'd in public by bystanders?

50K+ SWAT raids per year? G M A F B
So, to sum it up: "radical Islamic terrorists good, police officers bad." #BoutardsLogic

boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 10:45 AM
So, to sum it up: "radical Islamic terrorists good, police officers bad." #BoutardsLogic

you're full of shit, and YOU LIE

Clipper Nation
09-24-2015, 10:46 AM
you're full of shit, and YOU LIE
Aaaaand there it is, the predictable response whenever the holes in your "logic" are pointed out.

:cry "You Lie" :cry

boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 10:48 AM
Aaaaand there it is, the predictable response whenever the holes in your "logic" are pointed out.

:cry "You Lie" :cry

You Lie, you fantasy about my logic is your creation, not mine.

Winehole23
09-24-2015, 10:51 AM
CN: you never explained how Garner and Grey's rap sheets are relevant to being killed by out of control cops. walk us through that one and explain how those homicides were procedurally fair, if you can.

boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 10:58 AM
So, to sum it up: "radical Islamic terrorists good, police officers bad." #BoutardsLogic

the guys still in GITMO have been declared innocent, so let them go. But USA is so fucked up by dubya's GITMO and by Repugs' obstruction of GITMO, nothing is done, the innocent guys still locked up, humiliated, after 10+ years.

djohn2oo8
09-24-2015, 02:34 PM
If Freddie Gray's history of "crash-for-cash" schemes or Eric Garner's 30 arrests in 34 years weren't "relevant," then neither is Goforth's mistress.


Was the mistress the wife or girlfriend of the dude that killed him?

It's just ironic that the media played the whole family man narrative when he would be alive if not for meeting his mistress.

DisAsTerBot
09-24-2015, 02:49 PM
If Freddie Gray's history of "crash-for-cash" schemes or Eric Garner's 30 arrests in 34 years weren't "relevant," then neither is Goforth's mistress.

As the Houston Chronicle reports Osso is relying on the testimony of the woman claiming to be Goforth's mistress to explain what the deputy was doing at the gas station that night. If Goforth wasn't there in an official capacity as a peace officer as he was said to be initially, the capital murder charge Miles faces for killing an officer in the line of duty would be downgraded to a murder charge, which could save him from the death penalty. - See more at: http://www.texasmonthly.com/the-daily-post/why-would-it-matter-if-deputy-goforth-was-having-an-affair/#sthash.UfZp3N6b.dpuf

relevant

DarrinS
09-24-2015, 02:57 PM
It's just ironic that the media played the whole family man narrative when he would be alive if not for meeting his mistress.

Oh, I see. He'd probably also be alive if he wasn't shot 15 times.

Clipper Nation
10-01-2015, 06:20 PM
Illinois police officer killed after a struggle:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/01/unidentified-dna-samples-found-where-illinois-officer-died/

Another police officer killed at a South Carolina mall:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/30/police-officer-shot-killed-sc-mall/73114288/

Winehole23
10-02-2015, 01:24 AM
it's never been safer to be a cop in the USA.

Winehole23
10-02-2015, 01:25 AM
supporting evidence posted upstream. why do you keep ignoring it and stoking unreasonable fear, CN?

Clipper Nation
10-05-2015, 11:46 AM
Chicago reached 59 murders and 362 gunshot victims in September, marking the Democratic-run city’s deadliest month since 2002, according to analysis by The Chicago Tribune.

The last month of summer featured more homicides than any other month this year, and more than any summer month since the prior decade.

According to the Tribune, September ended (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-multiple-shootings-met-20150929-story.html) with two consecutive weekends during which more than 50 people were shot. There more than 40 shootings each weekend in August.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/05/59-murders-september-chicagos-deadliest-decade/

boutons_deux
10-05-2015, 11:54 AM
criminals, by definition, are "out of control"

cops are never supposed to out of control

this bullshit thread is typically dishonest, false equivalence, just like AllLivesMatter is meant to ridicule BlackLivesMatter.

spurraider21
10-05-2015, 12:47 PM
criminals, by definition, are "out of control"

cops are never supposed to out of control

this bullshit thread is typically dishonest, false equivalence, just like AllLivesMatter is meant to ridicule BlackLivesMatter.
cops can be criminals too, just like any other profession. they often times are

Clipper Nation
10-05-2015, 12:50 PM
criminals, by definition, are "out of control"

cops are never supposed to out of control

this bullshit thread is typically dishonest, false equivalence, just like AllLivesMatter is meant to ridicule BlackLivesMatter.
Sorry cuck, but this is the real world, not Robocop. Policing is going to attract some bad apples just like any other job. Still doesn't justify the War on Cops.

boutons_deux
10-05-2015, 01:05 PM
Sorry cuck, but this is the real world, not Robocop. Policing is going to attract some bad apples just like any other job. Still doesn't justify the War on Cops.

but the Bad Cops almost never get punished, and if they do, it's some silly bullshit vacation with pay, or they go work for the local sheriff. And then there is the Blue Wall of all or most of the Good Cops protecting the bad cops.

Policing to seems attract, even produce, Bad Cops.

Winehole23
10-07-2015, 01:52 AM
Sorry cuck, but this is the real world, not Robocop. Policing is going to attract some bad apples just like any other job. Still doesn't justify the War on Cops.There is no war on cops. Sorry bootlick libertarians like yourself and and thin skinned LE can't take criticism from the communities they serve. Statistically, it's never been safer to be a cop.

Clipper Nation
10-07-2015, 09:38 AM
Baltimore's bloody summer ended with a barrage of bangs, as the rate of homicides and gun crimes continued to spike in the wake of the racially charged case of Freddie Gray, whose death in police custody left citizens angry and cops demoralized.

For September, homicides were up 39 percent and non-fatal shootings nearly doubled over the same month in 2014, continuing a disturbing trend that has gripped the Charm City since Gray's death in April and the rioting that followed. For the year, murders are up 52 percent and non-fatal shootings 80 percent over last year.

"We have highly motivated bad guys in Baltimore," Baltimore police spokesman T.J. Smith told FoxNews.com.

For the year, the 246 homicides recorded through Sept. 26 put Baltimore dangerously close to the record pace of 1993, when 353 people were victims of homicide. The fact that the spike occurred after April 19 bodes even worse: Before the unrest following the Gray arrest, Baltimore had recorded 65 homicides for the year. A four-decade high of 42 homicides in May was topped in July when 45 people were killed in homicides (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/01/baltimore-killings-soar-to-level-unseen-in-43-years/), making Baltimore the second deadliest city in America on a per capita basis, trailing only St. Louis.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/05/bloody-baltimore-post-freddie-gray-spike-in-homicides-shootings-continues/?intcmp=trending
(http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/05/bloody-baltimore-post-freddie-gray-spike-in-homicides-shootings-continues/?intcmp=trending)
:cry "We don't need the warrior cops, we can police ourselves!" :cry

Spurminator
10-07-2015, 09:43 AM
OP changes thread subject after war on cops well goes dry.

Clipper Nation
10-07-2015, 09:47 AM
Spurmguzzler living up to his spot on the cuck power rankings.

DisAsTerBot
10-07-2015, 09:59 AM
ITT BREAKING NEWS: CRIMINALS DO ILLEGAL THINGS!

Spurminator
10-07-2015, 10:29 AM
Spurmguzzler living up to his spot on the cuck power rankings.

"cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck lol"

You're like the kid who discovers the word "penis" and repeats it endlessly giggling while the adults roll their eyes.

ChumpDumper
10-07-2015, 10:44 AM
CN just following orders.

boutons_deux
10-09-2015, 12:55 PM
...

boutons_deux
10-09-2015, 12:59 PM
...

spurraider21
10-09-2015, 01:14 PM
"my beautiful, incredible, sweet, smart, loving, brilliant baby brother"

definitely no skew on that story

Clipper Nation
10-18-2015, 04:50 PM
A suspect in a domestic incident who was being treated at a Minnesota (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/minnesota.htm) hospital grabbed a gun from a sheriff's deputy and killed the officer early Sunday, prompting hospital security officers to subdue the suspect with a stun gun, authorities said.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/man-treated-hospital-grabs-officers-gun-kills-34560312

boutons_deux
10-18-2015, 06:14 PM
A suspect in a domestic incident who was being treated at a Minnesota (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/minnesota.htm) hospital grabbed a gun from a sheriff's deputy and killed the officer early Sunday, prompting hospital security officers to subdue the suspect with a stun gun, authorities said.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/man-treated-hospital-grabs-officers-gun-kills-34560312

this is what criminals are supposed to do

otoh, cops are not supposed to escalate immediately to shooting

TheSanityAnnex
10-18-2015, 09:18 PM
this is what criminals are supposed to do

otoh, cops are not supposed to escalate immediately to shooting
The day you start carrying concealed is the day cops have become a serious threat to the public

Winehole23
10-19-2015, 09:27 AM
there's still no war on cops. it's still safer to be an LEO than it ever has been.

boutons_deux
10-19-2015, 09:30 AM
The day you start carrying concealed is the day cops have become a serious threat to the public

I have a dick, don't need no dick surrogate. The militarized, instant-escalation-to-shooting cops are a huge threat to the public, probably gonna have 1000 dead by year end (and that is probably well under-reported, as the cops, many of whom are in shit org like Oath Keepers, don't GAF about no fucking govt reporting, are KNOWN CYA LIARS)

djohn2oo8
10-20-2015, 08:16 PM
Oh, I see. He'd probably also be alive if he wasn't shot 15 times.

Which says Anger. Btw, rumors out there that Miles had dated the whore before. And killed Goforth in retaliation.

Clipper Nation
10-20-2015, 10:30 PM
An NYPD officer has died after he was shot in the head Tuesday night by a gunman in East Harlem, police sources said.

The officer took a bullet to the forehead as he and other officers chased the man, who was riding a bicycle, at E. 120 St. and FDR drive around 8:45 p.m., a high-ranking police source said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/nypd-officer-shot-gunman-east-harlem-sources-article-1.2405114?sdfknsdkf

Trill Clinton
10-21-2015, 02:40 AM
Which says Anger. Btw, rumors out there that Miles had dated the whore before. And killed Goforth in retaliation.

damn really? you got a link or is this just word of mouth?

Winehole23
10-21-2015, 03:55 AM
still no war on cops. it's still statistically the safest time to be a law enforcement officer ever.

brave civil servants do die, significant sacrifice for public order, every life matters.

nevertheless, CN is feeding y'all bs. crime isn't out of control statistically speaking.

Winehole23
10-21-2015, 04:01 AM
he'll emphasize one or two hot spots, but they don't stand for the whole.

forgive him. he probably didn't live through the 70s.

and if he did: he's lying if he says it's worse now.

Winehole23
10-21-2015, 04:02 AM
hell, it was worse under the previous President.

boutons_deux
10-21-2015, 04:32 AM
How the war on drugs creates violencehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-the-war-on-drugs-creates-violence/2015/10/16/6de57a76-72b7-11e5-9cbb-790369643cf9_story.html

boutons_deux
10-21-2015, 04:40 AM
career-padding prosecutors and "maximum John" judges must HATE this:

Police Leaders Join Call to Cut Prison Rosters

More than 130 police chiefs, prosecutors and sheriffs — including some of the most prominent law enforcement officials in the country — are adding their clout to the movement to reduce the nation’s incarceration rate.

Asserting that “too many people are behind bars that don’t belong there,” the officials plan to announce on Wednesday that they have formed a group to push for alternatives to arrests, reducing the number of criminal laws and ending mandatory minimum prison sentences.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/10/21/us/police-leaders-join-call-to-cut-prison-rosters.html

I figure the lobbyists for the multi-$B Prison Industrial Complex, PIC, will buy enough (Repug) politicians to block any attempts to reduce the prison population.

Repugs will, w/o any doubt, block spending any money on mentally ill, or on rehabbing the substance-abuse addicted, or on education and training in prisons.

Repugs' evangelical faux-Christians love punishing people, just as Christ would do.

And we have seen Repugs reduce spending on K-12 (union-busting, teacher-busting as dictated by ALEC and paid for by the oligarchy), which especially denies opportunities for blacks and browns to get an EQUAL education to whites.

cd021
10-21-2015, 04:57 AM
still no war on cops. it's still statistically the safest time to be a law enforcement officer ever.

brave civil servants do die, significant sacrifice for public order, every life matters.

nevertheless, CN is feeding y'all bs. crime isn't out of control statistically speaking.

Cop killings down 21% from last year, according to CNN.

Clipper Nation
10-25-2015, 01:45 AM
Obama fuels the flames of the anti-cop movement

http://nypost.com/2015/10/24/obama-fuels-the-flames-of-the-anti-cop-movement/

Clipper Nation
10-25-2015, 01:49 AM
FBI director James Comey says increases in violent crime in large cities may be correlated with the War on Cops:

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/FBI-Director-Links-Viral-Videos-of-Police-With-Rise-in-Crime-336664101.html

boutons_deux
10-25-2015, 07:49 AM
Obama fuels the flames of the anti-cop movement

http://nypost.com/2015/10/24/obama-fuels-the-flames-of-the-anti-cop-movement/

nypost, another Murdoch toilet paper, for past 40 years, attracting the best tabloid talent

boutons_deux
10-25-2015, 07:51 AM
FBI director James Comey says increases in violent crime in large cities may be correlated with the War on Cops:

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/FBI-Director-Links-Viral-Videos-of-Police-With-Rise-in-Crime-336664101.html

That's what criminals do, shoot, kill police.

Clipper Nation
10-25-2015, 10:29 AM
That's what criminals do, shoot, kill police.
And you cheerlead for it and dance on the dead officers' graves.

boutons_deux
10-25-2015, 12:45 PM
And you cheerlead for it and dance on the dead officers' graves.

You Lie

I don't cheerlead for killing police (although some, a lot?, would be better off dead than continue as rapists, murderers, child porn addicts, thieves of citizens' $100Ms)

I bitch slap you rightwingnuts for denigrating BlackLivesMatter with AllLiveMatters, etc and for supporting the police slaughter of blacks and others.

Clipper Nation
10-25-2015, 02:20 PM
:cheer I don't cheerlead for killing police (although some, a lot?, would be better off dead than continue as rapists, murderers, child porn addicts, thieves of citizens' $100Ms)
"I don't think the Earth is flat (although it's definitely not a sphere, or a cube, or a pyramid, or a cylinder)"

Spurminator
10-25-2015, 04:46 PM
Obama fuels the flames of the anti-cop movement

http://nypost.com/2015/10/24/obama-fuels-the-flames-of-the-anti-cop-movement/


Lamar’s drama is made for TVCall me cynical, but the Lamar Odom saga (http://pagesix.com/tag/lamar-odom/) smells like a plot — a reality-TV plot. He binges on drugs and hookers, his estranged Kardashian wife rushes to his side, he emerges from his coma, they call off the divorce and live happily ever after. Or until they cash the checks.

Thanks for posting, I've been looking for Andy Rooney takes ever since he died.

Spurminator
10-25-2015, 04:51 PM
FBI director James Comey says increases in violent crime in large cities may be correlated with the War on Cops:

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/FBI-Director-Links-Viral-Videos-of-Police-With-Rise-in-Crime-336664101.html

Convenient headline edit. Actual article doesn't really support your take, unless you hold the (fundamentally libertarian) view that videotaping cops is an act of war.

boutons_deux
10-25-2015, 04:53 PM
of course, FBI is gonna defend all segments of the militarized, murderous police state.

cd021
11-06-2015, 06:19 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/04/us/fox-lake-illinois-police-officer-joe-gliniewicz/index.html

cop staged suicide to make him look like he had been murdered.

Cop embezzled money and attempted to have someone killed

cd021
11-07-2015, 08:27 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/06/us/louisiana-child-shooting-officers-arrested/index.html

2 cops arrested for 2nd degree murder in Louisiana, for killing six year old boy during high speed chase. :tu

cd021
11-07-2015, 08:28 AM
cop charged with raping more than a dozen woman in OKC.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-accused-raping-black-women-white-jury-article-1.2423160

damn.

cd021
11-07-2015, 08:29 AM
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-deputy-rape-settlement-20151103-story.html

Sheriff pulls over woman, then rapes her. Tax payers on the hook for $2 million

cd021
11-07-2015, 08:31 AM
Busted: Arkansas cop admits he shot himself and blamed Hispanic man at traffic stop


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/busted-arkansas-cop-admits-he-shot-himself-and-blamed-hispanic-man-at-traffic-stop/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

coppers wildin' out this week

cd021
11-07-2015, 08:32 AM
https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/2746/9309/original.jpg?w=600&h

Clipper Nation
11-30-2015, 06:04 PM
Authorities have charged a New Florence man with homicide after he allegedly shot a St. Clair police officer responding to a domestic violence call. A tip led troopers to Ray Shetler Jr., 31, who was found walking along a road about 3 a.m. Sunday near a power plant just outside of New Florence. He is accused of shooting Officer Lloyd Reed Jr., 54, on Saturday night after Reed responded to a reported domestic situation at a home on Ligonier Street. Reed was pronounced dead at Conemaugh Memorial Medical Center in Johnstown.

http://fox43.com/2015/11/29/western-pa-police-officer-killed-in-line-of-duty/

Clipper Nation
11-30-2015, 06:05 PM
A Nebraska police officer has been shot and wounded and another officer physically assaulted during a confrontation that began as a traffic stop. Lincoln, Nebraska, Police Chief Jim Peschong said the injuries to the officers were not life threatening, according to the Lincoln Journal Star.

City officials released a statement saying police confronted a man with a felony history after a disturbance call and he took out a gun, sparking an exchange of fire that left the suspect dead.

http://klfy.com/2015/11/30/nebraska-police-officer-shot-suspect-killed/

Clipper Nation
11-30-2015, 06:06 PM
Family members, friends and colleagues of slain Downey police Officer Ricardo "Ricky" Galvez remembered him Monday morning as a humble, hard-working man with an infectious smile.

Galvez was shot to death on Nov. 18 in what officials believe was a botched robbery attempt.

The 29-year-old was attacked while sitting in his car in civilian clothes next to the Downey Police Department. He had just returned from a K-9 training session. Three male suspects, including two teenagers, are facing murder and attempted second-degree robbery charges.

http://abc7.com/news/funeral-held-for-slain-downey-police-officer-ricky-galvez/1103743/

Winehole23
11-30-2015, 06:09 PM
CN fanning hysteria, as usual. Cop killings are still near historic lows.

Still no war on cops. It's still safer to be a cop than ever.

Winehole23
11-30-2015, 06:12 PM
https://www.aei.org/publication/is-there-really-a-war-on-cops-the-data-show-that-2015-will-likely-be-one-of-the-safest-years-in-history-for-police/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...angerous-game/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/09/10/once-again-there-is-no-war-on-cops-and-those-who-claim-otherwise-are-playing-a-dangerous-game/)

Winehole23
11-30-2015, 06:12 PM
CN is still a mindless bandwagoner.

Clipper Nation
11-30-2015, 06:17 PM
A University of Illinois at Chicago student has been arrested and will face charges for an online threat to kill at least 16 "white devils" in revenge for the death of Laquan McDonald who was shot 16 times by police.

"This is my only warning. At 10AM Monday morning, I'm going to the campus quad of the University of Chicago. I will be armed with an M-4 carbine and two desert eagles, all fully loaded. I will execute approximately 16 white male students and or staff, which is the same number of time McDonald was killed," the Chicago Tribune reports (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-university-of-chicago-gun-threat-met-20151130-story.html). The message continued, "I will then die killing any number of white policeman in the process. This is not a joke. I am to do my part and rid the world of white devils. I expect you do the same."

The threat was left on a website called worldstarhiphop.com over the weekend. A reader alerted the FBI to the threat on Sunday morning. After day long discussions between the FBI and local authorities, University President Robert Zimmer decided to cancel classes Monday.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/30/student-arrested-threat-kill-white-devils-university-chicago/

Spurminator
11-30-2015, 06:18 PM
Disingenuous exploitation of dead officers to push a narrative and/or troll. What an upstanding human specimen you are.

Clipper Nation
11-30-2015, 06:21 PM
Disingenuous exploitation of dead officers to push a narrative and/or troll. What an upstanding human specimen you are.

No exploitation or trolling here, just balancing out the disingenuous narrative of police all being racist thugs with badges being pushed by race-baiters.

ChumpDumper
11-30-2015, 06:35 PM
No exploitation or trolling here, just balancing out the disingenuous narrative of police all being racist thugs with badges being pushed by race-baiters.Which poster said all the police are racist thugs?

We'll need to see some quotes from them.

Winehole23
11-30-2015, 06:44 PM
Balancing hyperbole and propaganda with more of the same. Nice work, CN.

Winehole23
11-30-2015, 06:46 PM
Propping himself up on dead cops to score political points online. What a patriot.

Winehole23
11-30-2015, 06:46 PM
In b4 they did it first

DarrinS
11-30-2015, 06:52 PM
http://abc7chicago.com/news/no-bail-for-man-charged-with-1st-degree-murder-of-tyshawn-lee-9/1101440/

TheSanityAnnex
11-30-2015, 07:06 PM
Which poster said all the police are racist thugs?

We'll need to see some quotes from them.
"why would black men, or black people, ever trust the police to protect them? the police are there, created to oppress, brutalize, murder blacks."

Winehole23
11-30-2015, 07:16 PM
Obviously, the only antidote to boutons is to get in the sty with him and fling shit around.

Winehole23
11-30-2015, 07:20 PM
Lol defending yourselves by descending to his level.

ChumpDumper
11-30-2015, 07:28 PM
"why would black men, or black people, ever trust the police to protect them? the police are there, created to oppress, brutalize, murder blacks."


Is this a boutons quote?

Spurminator
11-30-2015, 09:03 PM
I wouldn't know what boutons is saying because I put him on ignore a long time ago. But if you want to be the conservative boutons for "balance," it's your life.

Spurminator
11-30-2015, 09:04 PM
http://abc7chicago.com/news/no-bail-for-man-charged-with-1st-degree-murder-of-tyshawn-lee-9/1101440/

Another non thread-related post about a black person committing a crime. Good find! #notaracist

DarrinS
11-30-2015, 09:54 PM
Another non thread-related post about a black person committing a crime. Good find! #notaracist

Re-read thread title

Spurminator
11-30-2015, 11:01 PM
Re-read thread title

Re-read thread.

Winehole23
12-01-2015, 08:02 AM
That would require reading past the lede/subject line -- not really Darrin's thing.

FuzzyLumpkins
12-01-2015, 05:59 PM
I just envisioning him googling frantically and the relief when on page 9 he finally finds something that says what he wants said. Then only to find out this! Such a shame!

Trill Clinton
12-04-2015, 02:06 PM
potential domestic terrorist caught

672830969083273216

TheSanityAnnex
12-04-2015, 02:10 PM
potential domestic terrorist caught

672830969083273216

"Cops found he was carrying a knife and a .380-caliber pistol. In the back seat, they found a loaded assault rifle, a ballistic body armor vest, a tactical vest and three high-capacity magazines carrying 8,300 rounds." :lol

Winehole23
12-29-2015, 12:57 AM
2015 was one of the safest years on record for cops:


Compare current numbers to the 1970s, when gun-related police deaths were about six times higher than they are today. Or during the Prohibition era, which saw police deaths involving firearms at rates 14 to 17 times higher than present day.


Police are also facing less nonlethal violence today. While the FBI hasn’t released data for 2015, the data through 2014 clearly illustrates a downward trend in assaults against cops over the last decade.

Winehole23
12-29-2015, 12:58 AM
http://www.albany.edu/sourcebook/pdf/t31542012.pdf

Clipper Nation
01-02-2016, 12:15 AM
Elected officials are now encouraging people to throw rocks, bricks, and bottles at police officers:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK9htv4vx4c

But yeah, it's the "warrior cops" who are the problem. Not the anti-cop agenda. :rolleyes

Winehole23
01-02-2016, 12:50 PM
free speech can be irresponsible and repugnant. maybe you lack the spine to get along in a free country.

there is no war on cops. your handwaving doesn't change that or that it's never been safer to be a cop.

Clipper Nation
01-02-2016, 04:01 PM
free speech can be irresponsible and repugnant. maybe you lack the spine to get along in a free country.
Ironic argument coming from the party of safe spaces, no-platforming, and political correctness.

I say the police should give the councilman what he wants and "not come around there anymore." When crime and murder explodes like it did in Baltimore and people start begging the police to come back, their response should should be, "sorry, we'd rather not have rocks thrown at us and be smeared as racists around the world for arresting criminals. You should have appreciated the job we did when we did it."

Spurminator
01-02-2016, 04:13 PM
So your position is that police should be butthurt and refuse to do their job to protect and serve the community.

Seems you have a lower opinion of law enforcement than most.

:cry :cry Words hurt :cry :cry

Winehole23
01-02-2016, 04:28 PM
Ironic argument coming from the party of safe spaces, no-platforming, and political correctness.I don't hold with safe spaces and PC and I'm totally unfamiliar with what you call no-platforming. what is it?

Clipper Nation
01-02-2016, 07:58 PM
I don't hold with safe spaces and PC and I'm totally unfamiliar with what you call no-platforming. what is it?
No-platforming is when leftists on college campuses throw a public hissy-fit and create a PR nightmare in order to get the school to revoke their invites to certain speakers. It used to be limited to just overt racists and fascists, but has now been broadened to pretty much anyone the social-justice cult disagrees with.

Winehole23
01-03-2016, 03:08 AM
well, that's on the colleges for being cowards, don't you think?

Clipper Nation
01-03-2016, 03:11 AM
well, that's on the colleges for being cowards, don't you think?

I'd say the cowards are the people throwing childish temper tantrums because someone they disagree with might be coming to give a speech.

Libcucks know their ideas are full of shit, so they have to rely on censorship and the chilling effect to silence dissent instead.

Winehole23
01-03-2016, 03:11 AM
asshole leftists, like the asshole right wingers, are gonna say whatever they're gonna say,

Winehole23
01-03-2016, 03:14 AM
shame on institutions like the media and colleges for bowing to bullies on both sides of the aisle.

Winehole23
01-03-2016, 03:16 AM
I'd say the cowards are the people throwing childish temper tantrums because someone they disagree with might be coming to give a speech.

Libcucks know their ideas are full of shit, so they have to rely on censorship and the chilling effect to silence dissent instead.who got censored?

Winehole23
01-03-2016, 03:20 AM
firing profs with controversial views is one thing, rescinding invitations to speak another...

Winehole23
01-03-2016, 04:08 AM
I notice you don't deny, despite the putative war on cops, that it's never been safer to be a cop.

silence implies agreement, no?

Winehole23
01-03-2016, 04:10 AM
if not, bring your case, single (and even disparate) data points won't do

TheSanityAnnex
03-14-2016, 05:10 PM
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Active-Shooter-Situation--371924952.html


A Prince George's County police officer was killed in what police are calling an "unprovoked attack" outside police headquarters in the Palmer Park area of Landover, Maryland.
Police have identified the fallen officer as 28-year-old Jacai Colson, a four-year veteran of the Prince George's County Police Department. Colson was a narcotics officer and would have celebrated his 29th birthday this week.


"It is my sad duty to come to the community this evening and to tell you that one of your defenders, Jacai Colson... lost his life in defense of this county today," Prince George's County Police Chief Hank Stawinski said in a news conference Sunday night.
Stawinski said Colson was killed in an "unprovoked attack" on the District III police station at about 4:30 p.m. when one man started firing a gun at officers.


"It wasn't about anything. This man launched an attack on a police station and engaged several Prince George's County police officers in a gun fight, to which they responded -- heroically."
The suspect was arrested at a Popeyes fast food restaurant nearby.


A second suspect was arrested a short time later. One suspect was wounded and taken to the hospital. Police could not confirm if the suspect was shot by an officer and said he is stable and is expected to survive.
Police do not believe there are any more suspects.


Colson was transported to Prince George's Hospital Center in the back of a police cruiser and later pronounced dead.
"This is truly a dark day in Prince George's County. An unwarranted, unprovoked attack on our officers at a police station," said John Teletchea, Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 89 president. "We would ask for the community's prayers at this time...and we would ask for God to bless Prince George's County so we never see a day like this again."


Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan has ordered the flags to fly at half-staff in honor of Colson. He released the following statement:
"I am shocked and saddened by the news this evening of the death of Prince George's County police officer Jacai Colson in the line of duty. Our administration is committed to assisting Prince George's County officials during this time, and the Maryland State Police are working closely with local law enforcement to provide support as needed. The First Lady and I send our sincere prayers to the family and loved ones of Officer Colson, who made the ultimate sacrifice in service to his fellow citizens and community. It is my hope that his proud legacy of commitment and passion for law enforcement and serving others will provide some comfort in the difficult days that lie ahead."

Two weeks ago in Prince William County in Virginia, 28-year-old Officer Ashley Guindon was shot and killed (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Virginia-Officer-Killed-Her-1st-Day-on-Job-is-Set-for-Burial-371261401.html) on her first day on the job. Two other officers were also shot (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Two-Prince-William-Officers-Who-Were-Shot-on-Domestic-Violence-Call-Recovering-Well-371056481.html). They were responding to a domestic dispute at a home in Woodbridge

TheSanityAnnex
03-14-2016, 05:16 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/13/us/maryland-police-officer-dies/index.html


damn, killed in the crossfire

spurraider21
03-14-2016, 05:30 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/13/us/maryland-police-officer-dies/index.html


damn, killed in the crossfire
lol "accidental"

probably just a raicst racist white cop who found a chance to shoot a minority while making it look like accidental friendly fire


/boutons

DarrinS
04-01-2016, 11:56 AM
http://wtvr.com/2016/04/01/trooper-killer-was-from-a-chicago-suburb-with-a-long-record-and-anger-at-police/

Winehole23
04-03-2016, 05:29 PM
moar anecdotes. you do like to generalize from the particular.

it's never been safer to be a police officer, Darrin.

MultiTroll
05-18-2016, 09:55 PM
University of Iowa student lied about violent hate crime

http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBtdvWu.img?h=768&w=1366&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=186&y=290

MultiTroll
05-18-2016, 09:57 PM
A black University of Iowa freshman who claimed (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/university-iowa-freshman-victim-racist-attack-article-1.2624100) he was the victim of a violent hate crime started the assault himself, then lied about it after taking a beating, police said.Marcus Owens, 19, earned national attention after claiming three white men beat him outside a bar while shouting racial slurs April 30. He shared photos showing his bruised and bloody face after the attack.
Police said Owens did indeed suffer an attack — but he brought it upon himself.

A two-week investigation revealed he was the aggressor in a series of drunken disputes, lashing out after he heard a patron use a racial epithet at another man. Police released surveillance footage of the fights, which contradicted Owens’ claims of what happened.“Marcus was an active participant and even an instigator in three separate physical confrontations or assaults,” Iowa City Police Capt. Troy Kelsay said in a press conference.

boutons_deux
05-19-2016, 04:11 PM
..

boutons_deux
05-19-2016, 04:17 PM
...

Clipper Nation
07-08-2016, 07:33 PM
With the brutal killings that happened in Dallas, this thread is more relevant than ever. The left's War on Cops is very real, as sad as it is to say.

Spurminator
07-08-2016, 07:40 PM
With the brutal killings that happened in Dallas, this thread is more relevant than ever. The left's War on Cops is very real, as sad as it is to say.

What is your Stormfront username?

Clipper Nation
07-08-2016, 07:50 PM
What is your Stormfront username?

Don't have one, tbh, as I'm not a racist.

Winehole23
07-08-2016, 10:05 PM
With the brutal killings that happened in Dallas, this thread is more relevant than ever. The left's War on Cops is very real, as sad as it is to say.Lone gunman did a tour in Afghanistan. The left's putative war on cops didn't teach him the art of war, military service in Afghanistan did. Shooter's a vet.

Blaming this shooting on the media is preposterous. Weak take.

Winehole23
07-08-2016, 10:36 PM
Criticism isn't a war on cops. It's citizens speaking their minds.

Protesters didn't make any of this happen. Crazy criminals did.

Winehole23
07-08-2016, 10:40 PM
crazy criminals are out of control. the broader context is historically low levels of violent crime.

TheSanityAnnex
07-08-2016, 10:45 PM
Lone gunman did a tour in Afghanistan. The left's putative war on cops didn't teach him the art of war, military service in Afghanistan did. Shooter's a vet.

Blaming this shooting on the media is preposterous. Weak take.
He was a carpentry and masonry specialist on the engineer brigade :lol
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/07/08/dallas-police-shooter-identified-as-former-us-soldier-reports.html

Winehole23
07-08-2016, 10:47 PM
The statistical picture on police violence is murkier. Not all PDs report as required by law.

Winehole23
07-08-2016, 10:48 PM
He was a carpentry and masonry specialist on the engineer brigade :lol
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/07/08/dallas-police-shooter-identified-as-former-us-soldier-reports.htmlyou don't count that?

Winehole23
07-08-2016, 10:49 PM
nine months in Afghanistan. would you go there?

TheSanityAnnex
07-08-2016, 10:51 PM
you don't count that?

For learning the "art of war"? :lol no

Winehole23
07-08-2016, 10:57 PM
He was a carpentry and masonry specialist on the engineer brigade :lol
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/07/08/dallas-police-shooter-identified-as-former-us-soldier-reports.htmlnine months in Afghanistan. would you go?

Winehole23
07-08-2016, 10:58 PM
For learning the "art of war"? :lol noyou suppose they sent him there untrained?

Winehole23
07-08-2016, 11:00 PM
engineers and even ditch-diggers are important in war. they didn't call Robert E. Lee the King of Spades for nothing.

ElNono
07-08-2016, 11:00 PM
He was a carpentry and masonry specialist on the engineer brigade :lol
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/07/08/dallas-police-shooter-identified-as-former-us-soldier-reports.html

I'm no expert, but it looked like he could handle a weapon pretty well. I'm pretty sure some of the cops that faced him would agree if they could.

Winehole23
07-08-2016, 11:45 PM
One last point: I’ve seen some police officials and their advocates respond to these statistics by pointing out that even if assaults and killings of cops are down, anti-police rhetoric is increasing. Therefore, they say, they’re justified in proclaiming that there’s a war on the police. This is nonsense. Police agencies are government agencies. They’re government agencies in whom we entrust the power to detain, arrest, and kill. Yes, it’s true that some people are demanding more of those agencies. It’s true that personal technology is enabling people to create an independent video narrative of their interactions with police. It’s true that those videos have sometimes revealed police misconduct and brutality, and that police officers, like all people, sometimes mis-remember, misstate, and outright lie when recounting contentious, traumatic, high-stakes incidents. And it’s true that because of all of this, the public as a whole today finds police officers as a whole less trustworthy than in the past (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/26/public-trust-police-low-poll-finds/). It’s also true that some activists, pundits, and politicians are demanding more accountability, transparency, and training for police.


None of these things are indicative of a “war.” On the contrary, all of this new skepticism, criticism, forced transparency, and mistrust of the police is — again — coming even as violence against police officers is reaching historic lows. This is how a democracy is supposed to work. It’s something worth celebrating.


Instead, police groups and their advocates are claiming that the mere act of criticizing a government entity is akin to declaring war on it, and that therefore, police critics are culpable every time a police officer is murdered. (And given the way they ignore and abuse statistics, those critics are also apparently culpable for a lot of murders that never happened.) They’re essentially saying that exercising constitutional rights and participating in democracy are in and of themselves acts of violence. And in many cases, this is coming from the very people that the government empowers to use actual violence.


That is something worth worrying about

boutons_deux
07-09-2016, 05:45 AM
"Police agencies are government agencies"

St Ronnie, Repugs, VRWC have been LYING for 40 years that "GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM", well, THEIR police/surveillance state IS THE PROBLEM

Winehole23
07-09-2016, 10:44 AM
defense and LE bureaucracies wearing blue uniforms and badges get a pass from conservatives because they have a monopoly on legitimate violence.

tacit veneration of state power is revealed by explicit worship of US armed forces and the police.

FuzzyLumpkins
07-09-2016, 05:20 PM
you don't count that?

That means he set up fortifications which includes gun emplacements.

TSA is a buffoon.

spurraider21
07-17-2016, 04:12 PM
Clipper Nation

Clipper Nation
10-05-2016, 10:39 AM
An Alabama mother said her 17-year-old son — who had recently voiced his support for law enforcement amid protests over fatal police shootings — was severely beaten in an empty parking lot in Sylacauga, an attack she called a racially motivated hate crime.

Brandi Allen told Fox affiliate WBRC (http://www.wbrc.com/story/33299599/mother-of-sylacauga-hs-student-says-assault-could-have-been-prevented) that her son, Brian Ogle, suffered a skull fractures in the brutal attack following a Friday-night football game.

“Apparently he was hit with something — what is presumed to be the butt of the pistol on his face,” she said. “He has stitches and he’s got bruising, real bad bruising on his shoulder. There’s a lot of wounds on the back of his head from being hit as well.”

“Instead of us planning for his 18th birthday, we’re here. Why? Because he made a statement that he backs the blue,” Allen told the news station.

“I’m trying to understand how anyone — I don’t care the color of their skin — could do this to another human being.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/10/04/a-teen-was-brutally-beaten-after-making-pro-police-statements-his-mom-says-its-a-hate-crime/

clambake
10-06-2016, 11:01 AM
trill, whats your take with the sheriff that got killed in lancaster?

Clipper Nation
10-06-2016, 07:28 PM
Chicago’s top cop said Thursday one of his officers was seriously beaten at an accident scene because the national focus on police shootings has caused officers to second-guess themselves.

Superintendent Eddie Johnson (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/crime-law-justice/law-enforcement/eddie-johnson-PEGPF00184-topic.html) said the patrol officer told him she did not use her gun to defend herself for fear of a backlash. "She didn’t want her family or the department to go through the scrutiny the next day on national news," he said.

The injured officer, a 17-year Chicago police (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/crime-law-justice/law-enforcement/chicago-police-department-ORGOV000080-topic.html) veteran, got into a struggle with a man who allegedly was high on PCP after she stopped at a crash scene in the Austin community on the West Side on Wednesday morning.

The suspect smashed the officer's face into the pavement repeatedly until she was unconscious, police said.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-citing-beating-of-officer-chicago-s-top-cop-says-police-are-second-guessing-themselves-20161006-story.html

Trill Clinton
10-07-2016, 06:02 AM
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Spurminator
10-07-2016, 09:16 AM
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The killer seems like a nice kid with a good head on his shoulders.

https://twitter.com/TrentonForster

Winehole23
10-07-2016, 05:59 PM
The historical trend proves Clipper Nation wrong. Violence against LE is still near the historical low.

There is no war on cops, but no doubt, they do have a dangerous job.

The number one threat to cops is car crashes. Shot by thugs isn't even close.

Spurminator
10-07-2016, 06:30 PM
The number one threat to cops is car crashes. Shot by thugs isn't even close.

Don't put it past Clipper Deux to blame those crashes on BLM.

Trill Clinton
10-07-2016, 06:36 PM
The killer seems like a nice kid with a good head on his shoulders.

https://twitter.com/TrentonForster

wow. the thugs timeline consisted of nothing but demonic posts.