Cavs' Thompson doesn't sign qualifying offer

[Kawhitstorm]

Tristan Thompson failed to pick up the Cavs' $6.8M qualifying offer by the 11:59 p.m. ET deadline, per ESPN and multiple reports. This means that Thompson's holdout has officially begun. #CavsFucked

[random21]

Who's gonna get all those Lebron midrange bricks, if he doesn't sign???

[exstatic]

He actually gets fined every day that he holds out.

#notagoodtactic

[Richie]

So how does this work? Can he still sign a QO or does it have to be a new contract?

[hater]

So he's playing for free?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

So how does this work? Can he still sign a QO or does it have to be a new contract?

I assume it must be a new contract. Has this ever happened before?

[DeRozan m8]

Fuck this guy

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Apparently he can still sign the QO if Cavs offer it again.

[Kawhitstorm]

Apparently he can still sign the QO if Cavs offer it again.

The immediate impact of this is that Thompson is now in a no-man's land of sorts. He can no longer sign the qualifying offer and, unless the Cavs sign him to a one-year deal or he signs an offer sheet that the Cavs choose not to match, he will be a Cavalier for at least two more seasons.

The next move for Thompson is unclear. He now can either sit out, sign an offer sheet with another team or re-sign with the Cavs. Where Thompson to sit out, he in theory could sit out all season and become a restricted free agent again next summer. He also wouldn't be the first Cavalier to hold out at the start of the season, as Anderson Varejao held out until December of the 2007-08 season as a restricted free agent. Varejao ultimately returned to the Cavs after signing an offer sheet with the then Charlotte Bobcats. The Cavs matched the offer sheet a day after Varejao signed it.

Did the Blazers waive Mike Miller so they could make an offer to Tristan?

[TheCerebral1]

He's a moron, end statement.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

The immediate impact of this is that Thompson is now in a no-man's land of sorts. He can no longer sign the qualifying offer and, unless the Cavs sign him to a one-year deal or he signs an offer sheet that the Cavs choose not to match, he will be a Cavalier for at least two more seasons.

The next move for Thompson is unclear. He now can either sit out, sign an offer sheet with another team or re-sign with the Cavs. Where Thompson to sit out, he in theory could sit out all season and become a restricted free agent again next summer. He also wouldn't be the first Cavalier to hold out at the start of the season, as Anderson Varejao held out until December of the 2007-08 season as a restricted free agent. Varejao ultimately returned to the Cavs after signing an offer sheet with the then Charlotte Bobcats. The Cavs matched the offer sheet a day after Varejao signed it.

Did the Blazers waive Mike Miller so they could make an offer to Tristan?

Don't think the Blazers would be interested, Cavs would match.

Thompson would have been fucked being in his current situation if it wasn't for GM LeBron being on his side. I expect he'll be making a couple of calls now and a new contract signed within a week.

[TheDoctor]

So, obviously, TT did not agree with Cavs offer and Griffin did not accept TT's agent Rich Paul deal. But I don't think negotiations are that far fetched. TT didn't accept the 5/80m contract but maybe he accepts a 5/85m.

If that isn't the case, I believe Rich Paul fucked it up big time this time.


He actually gets fined every day that he holds out.

#notagoodtactic

This is not true. Is the opposite, as team and player couldn't reach an agreement, he can't be fined for missing practices/games with the Cavs. He could sit out the entire season if he want to. Other teams have until March to extend an Offer Sheet. Cavs can would match it anyways tho'.

[SuperCam]

He will sign for a reasonable long term deal eventually. Probably the same 5/80 offer the Cavs threw out the first time. Guy is a monster on the offensive boards and made Gasol look like a bitch. There's value in that. Cavs rather bring someone young with energy off the bench than some 35 year old scrub ringchaser.

[HarlemHeat37]

Surprising that they are actually holding their ground, tbh..hurts them in the short-term, but he's one of the most overrated players in the league..can't give a max deal to an offensive rebounder in 2015:lol..

[ceperez]

LeBron calls the shots in that team in most everything. The fact that they aren't giving Thompson the money he wants tells you that LeBron really doesn't care too much for his game.

I will agree with LeBron, Thompson is overrated.

[SpurPadre]

Nothing to see here. At worst, Lebron will just buy another all-star or use other teams as his farm system by the trade deadline anyways because that's what he does every year.

[spursgu]

This idiot really thinks he's worth that much? :lol

[SAGirl]

Wow very interesting. I like Thompson and he's been an ironman all season, but he's limited. All of this could backfire for him badly. No team made him even an Enes Kanter type offer because the Cavs were willing to pay him 80 mill, which is quite possibly more than decent value for him. No one touched him and the Cavs are not forced to compete against themselves. He's going to quite literally put the Cavs in a position to see how well they do without him and it could backfire on him badly. They will miss him, but could do well enough without him to where it depresses TT value from even the 80 mill. If they do well enough without him, then TT is not worth 80 mill even to them. It is a huge gamble.

Its possible TT will not be in a better position for a contract at any other point and R.Paul knows this.

[21209]

The Cavs will have to earn their way out of the East the way it's looking now.

They could start the season with LeBron and not much else. Kyrie and Iman Shumpert are out until at least Christmas or later, Kevin Love doesn't appear to be ready for the start of the regular season, and now Tristan Thompson could be holding out for awhile.

Cavs haters have to be loving this situation about now.

[SAGirl]

The Cavs will have to earn their way out of the East the way it's looking now.

They could start the season with LeBron and not much else. Kyrie and Iman Shumpert are out until at least Christmas or later, Kevin Love doesn't appear to be ready for the start of the regular season, and now Tristan Thompson could be holding out for awhile.

Cavs haters have to be loving this situation about now.
Yea, in the west you could quite possibly not recover from a lengthy bad start even if you have a good team towards the end of the season. For example, Spurs last season didn't even start horrible, they just skidded in December crumbling over injuries and slipped to 7th spot in the playoff ranks and then were never able to climb up again. You don't feel the same fate awaits the Cavs, but they could skid enough to not have one of the top seeds.

[Raven]

great move for the cavs, they have all the leverage and TT really helps them nothing in the short term

[TheDoctor]

The thing is that TT knows he's valuable to the Cavs and their playing style and the Cavs know TT's value in their lineup. At the end they'll end up paying him a lot of dough. The same will happen with Harrison Barnes and GSW. They'll end overpaying him as he's perfect for them and their small ball.

[SpursFan86]

The Cavs will have to earn their way out of the East the way it's looking now.

They could start the season with LeBron and not much else. Kyrie and Iman Shumpert are out until at least Christmas or later, Kevin Love doesn't appear to be ready for the start of the regular season, and now Tristan Thompson could be holding out for awhile.

Cavs haters have to be loving this situation about now.

Not really :lol Who is going to challenge Cleveland in the East? They're still easily the best team in the conference even if they don't have Thompson (which, btw, isn't a given...I still think the most likely outcome is that TT ends up reaching a deal with Cleveland before the season starts). Missing Shumpert for the first few months of the season won't be that big of a deal. Kyrie being out until Christmas is the absolute worst-case scenario; I highly doubt he'll miss more than the first month of the season (if that). Haven't heard about Love lately, but the initial timetable was 4-6 months and that was in April, so I really don't see him missing much time either.

I mean they might get off to a slow start, but people shouldn't get their hopes up that they won't be playing come June. I have a hard time imagining them losing to someone in the East assuming they're even remotely healthy.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

the spurs should have been throwing all the Lamarcus jerk-offery to Thompson.

Thompson might just be my new favorite basketball player. the NBA is tyrannical with it's draft scale, restricted free agency, salary cap protect the owners from themselves business. Thompson should leverage a bolt for China or Euro-league to force a trade to Toronto, Minny, or wherever the heck he wants to play. I don't think this is all about money. i think there's a degree of, "why did you bring in Love when you had me" type of thing behind this loud display of knot tying.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Not really :lol Who is going to challenge Cleveland in the East? They're still easily the best team in the conference even if they don't have Thompson (which, btw, isn't a given...I still think the most likely outcome is that TT ends up reaching a deal with Cleveland before the season starts). Missing Shumpert for the first few months of the season won't be that big of a deal. Kyrie being out until Christmas is the absolute worst-case scenario; I highly doubt he'll miss more than the first month of the season (if that). Haven't heard about Love lately, but the initial timetable was 4-6 months and that was in April, so I really don't see him missing much time either.

I mean they might get off to a slow start, but people shouldn't get their hopes up that they won't be playing come June. I have a hard time imagining them losing to someone in the East assuming they're even remotely healthy.

Atl, Mil, Chi, Orl, and Bos... and that's downplaying Cha, Tor, and Was.

[SuperCam]

Atl, Mil, Chi, Orl, and Bos... and that's downplaying Cha, Tor, and Was.

No they won't. I'm sick of this spursfan :downspin: cavs shit.


If spurs were in east everyone here would laugh at any of those middling teams putting up a serious fight.


King James will whip those other teams like butter like he has the last five years

[SpursFan86]

Atl, Mil, Chi, Orl, and Bos... and that's downplaying Cha, Tor, and Was.

Did you just say Orlando and Boston will challenge the Cavs...? Are you fucking high? :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

^^ Boston, Charlotte, Orlando, Toronto and Washington?! Jesus:lmao..

Atlanta will never be a legit contender(as we saw last year, they're limited by personnel in a series), Chicago isn't even close to being a contender, and Milwaukee doesn't have the offense or shooting..

East got better, but not at the top..a bunch of above average teams behind an elite Cavs team..

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Did you just say Orlando and Boston will challenge the Cavs...? Are you fucking high? :lol

Kevin Love is Lamarcus Aldridge. Don't buy the Cavs hype, just the same as you shouldn't buy the Spurs. The Warriors will maintain the hold on the power vacuum, but teams like Orlando and Boston have plenty crumbs to feast on.

[Spurtacular]

Just saw the headline: Lebron called this a "distraction." I don't know if he aimed that at Thompson or management.

[TheCerebral1]

Pretty much a total goof. You are getting 16M and cannot create your own shot. Sorry bro, you're terrible.

[SAGirl]

Just saw the headline: Lebron called this a "distraction." I don't know if he aimed that at Thompson or management.
When asked about it he was noncommittal. I am personally taking the tweet of him and TT as a msg to Thompson, bc it doesn't have the same impact aimed at the Cavs. It was more meaningful viewed from a personal perspective to TT. But .. just a wild guess of course. lol

[SuperCam]

Pretty much a total goof. You are getting 16M and cannot create your own shot. Sorry bro, you're terrible.

He made Gasol and Millsap look like scrubs. Pay the man, tbh

[DrunkTXLabrat]

last season at the trade deadline... the spurs announce a trade revolving around Tristan Thompson, Baynes, Beli, an unprotected post-Timmy era 1st, whatever filler, and maybe even multiple teams.

RC comes out for the press release and says the team knew Baynes and Beli weren't in future plans, straight up. knew the cavs weren't interested in an off-season salary head-ache with an up an coming, athletic, big man who's tight with Cojo. the teams were able to work out a fair deal. we need a guy like Thompson to help with Timmy's dnp-olds and Tiago's fragile body. the Aldridge/Gasol rumors are ridiculous, those guys are losers and we look forward to sending them fishing for the extent of their careers. the team is very excited to have a big man who can body up and get rebounds. it's looking real good for both the young and old guys on the team, we expect to win for years to come. so that post-Timmy first is a trojan horse. checks will be written as big as the checks can be written. i don't imagine anybody lookin to leave, and we certainly don't want anybody to. speaking of which, somebody cut me mine and bring me some wine. let's celebrate not having to go out in the first round to the clipps, yikes what a nightmare that would be.