2015 Preseason Game #2: Spurs @ Heat, 6:30 CDT

[Chinook]

I mean, I'd rather see Jimmer than Williams, that's how bad he is. Thomas should have gotten time earlier, though.

[Kawhitstorm]

I strongly dislike Williams.

He tries to do too much on both ends instead of playing within the system.

[spurraider21]

tmtcsc (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=2574) said:

Yes!!! And the Spurs shall inherit the Earth!! Buhm buhm dabuhm buhm buhm bum bum

:toast


Yes indeed.

http://www.guitaraficionado.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/rush.jpg
:tu

[hater]

Boban is a horrible rebounder tbh. Only knock on him.

Otherwise he's fantastic

[apalisoc_9]

Can't be more open than open bruh. He's just throwing bricks. He will definitely get his looks.

for sure...

I was talking about the regular season and the game to come.

[BillMc]

Yes indeed.

http://www.guitaraficionado.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/rush.jpg


:worthy:

[SAGirl]

why is Jimmer not playing, tbh? APpears like they want to see Williams more. Jimmer got more minutes than him last game. Also we got Deshaun. I really don't like Williams.

[DPG21920]

Cojo all over again..

But unlike Cojo, Kyle isn't really a great defensive player to offset. Kyle is not such a plus shooter (at least not yet) nor such a plus defender that he's worth it in a diminished role off the ball. He may be able to adjust, but that's the concern.

[Fireball]

we really lack 3 point shooting ... in today's league we will not survive this shit ... need Green and Patty to shot 40+%

[heyheymymy]

Boban looks more lost than incapable. I think he will gel question is how long it will take.

[hater]

Anderson having a night terror

[DPG21920]

Cojo all over again..

But unlike Cojo, Kyle isn't really a great defensive player to offset. Kyle is not such a plus shooter (at least not yet) nor such a plus defender that he's worth it in a diminished role off the ball. He may be able to adjust, but that's the concern.

[Nathan89]

I thought KA was going to make all his shots and look good again.:lmao

[DeRozan m8]

Can Reggie Williams fuck off already?

[TXstbobcat]

Mills!!!!!

[Russ]

Boban looks more lost than incapable. I think he will gel question is how long it will take.

He'll work like hell ---you can book that.

[DPG21920]

That was a very good offensive move by Boban (didn't fall)

[NASpurs]

This shit is brutal :lol

[RD2191]

Kawhi building a house.

[T_L_P]

It's really not hard at all to see why SA likes Kyle. He does a lot of great things. But role is crucial and he's figuring his out.

Sure, he does a lot of good things - but it's all kind of useless with how slow he moves and his lack of shooting ability.

[spurraider21]

reggie williams is completely useless

[313]

How did everyone play tonight?

[spurraider21]

Kawhi building a house.
^typical porker fan

[heyheymymy]

holy fuck this game is getting ugly. no one can make a basket on either end. thank god for patty

[ElNono]

Pop should trot out LMA now, so he can remember what it felt like playing in Portland one more time...

[hater]

Where is ray ray????

[SpursBig3s]

we really lack 3 point shooting ... in today's league we will not survive this shit ... need Green and Patty to shot 40+%


Agree. I honestly think Belinelli is the biggest loss. Good shooter, unreal when he gets hot. Also was a capable ball handler and very good at moving w/o the ball (cutting to basket, etc)

[Fireball]

How did everyone play tonight? Duncan is still our best player, TP is healthy, Aldridge is a foul machine, Kawhi still DPOY, Boban sucks, Patty and Green cannot shoot anymore, Kyle looks rather bad today, Manu with some nifty passing, West solid

[DPG21920]

Its pre-season yo :lol Spurs are playing Reggie/Thomas/Boban it's not going to look pretty.

I have a feeling people are going to be saying "thank God for Patty" a lot this year.

[BillMc]

Boban doesn't jump for rebounds. His height advantage won't mean much in the NBA if he doesn't get up there.

Give him time, but he looks like an inactive first part of the season, especially if Bonner makes the team as the 5th big.

[heyheymymy]

believe in boban. dude looks pretty rough right now but he will figure it out with some repetition.

[hater]

Yup we are missing Ferrari already tbh

World class playa

[FkLA]

What channel is the game on?

[hater]

Ray in!!!!!

[NASpurs]

Well at least Ray is playing. RIP Jimmer.

[SpursBig3s]

Yup we are missing Ferrari already tbh

World class playa

Agree :lobt:

[Mnky]

I got faith in Boban.

[Chinook]

Cojo all over again..

Was thinking that. Maybe the reason why the Spurs can't seem to find a secondary play-maker for the bench is that it just doesn't work for Manu to not have the ball. Simmons being a TO doesn't inspire hope, either.

[heyheymymy]

simm going have to get in summer league mode soon too tenative right now

[TheGreatYacht]

How did everyone play tonight?
LMA - A
Duncan - A+
Leonard - C+
Green - C
Parker - A+
Manu - B+
West - B
Mills - C
Anderson - D+
Boban - D-
Kiefer Sykes - better than Jimmer

[ElNono]

:sleep

[313]

Duncan is still our best player, TP is healthy, Aldridge is a foul machine, Kawhi still DPOY, Boban sucks, Patty and Green cannot shoot anymore, Kyle looks rather bad today, Manu with some nifty passing, West solidSome good news and bad news. I'd rather the shooters be cold now rather than the start of the season I guess.

[Kawhitstorm]

we really lack 3 point shooting ... in today's league we will not survive this shit ... need Green and Patty to shot 40+%

40%+ shooters
Patty
Danny
Butler
35%+ shooters
Kawhi
Manu

Tony/LMA/Diaw can make spot-up 3s.

The Warriors have 2 pure shooters & 4 spot-up shooters (Iggy/Draymond/Barbosa/Barnes).

[FkLA]

What channel is the game on?

[cd98]

Bad news for Jimmer that everyone has played but him.

[DeRozan m8]

This isn't the Spurs tbh
Fuck me
The shot selections...

[Texas_Ranger]

please cut Williams after the game.

[TheGreatYacht]

Reggie Williams and Deshaun better take the VIA bus home

[apalisoc_9]

wow this is ugly basketball :lol

[ElNono]

0-2 here we come

[BillMc]

Going to rewatch the first 3 quarters immediately. Enjoy the LMA and Timmy show. Glimpses of the future.:flag:

[apalisoc_9]

not sure about channel

but here is a link

http://goatd.net/122814/watch-san-antonio-spurs-vs-miami-heat

[spursgu]

Our 5th unit is awful. :lol

[313]

LMA - A
Duncan - A+
Leonard - C+
Green - C
Parker - A+
Manu - B+
West - B
Mills - C
Anderson - D+
Boban - D-
Kiefer Sykes - better than Jimmer
:tu

[apalisoc_9]

Simmons :lol

[RD2191]

Dat choke :lol

[Texas_Ranger]

why even give this losers more chances, just cut them or sent them all to the 76ers. This guys are worse than Errors.

[BillMc]

Summer League Simmons ain't walking through that door.

[Fireball]

piss poor performance tbh ... losing sucks

[313]

Bad news for Jimmer that everyone has played but him.
He was the hero we needed but didn't deserve

[hater]

:lmao meltdown

[TheGreatYacht]

Boban
Rasual
Simmons
Jimmer
Kiefer Sykes

pull it off Pop

[Hoops Czar]

:lol Simmons over Green for the minimum.

[Darius Bieber]

Bad news for Jimmer that everyone has played but him.


Maybe he hasn't played because PATFO will stick with him for the regular season and they're trying to give the other players an opportunity to play.

[hater]

Miss u beli :cry

[BillMc]

He was the hero we needed but didn't deserve
:lol

[BillMc]

Miss u beli :cry
Truth.

[Nathan89]

None of the spurs prospects are looking good so far.

[ElNono]

@Spurs 10 mins ago
Jimmer Fredette has been cut by the Spurs

[cd98]

Summer League Simmons ain't walking through that door.

Yeah, big difference between summer league and NBA.

[FkLA]

not sure about channel

but here is a link

http://goatd.net/122814/watch-san-antonio-spurs-vs-miami-heat

thanks brah :tu

[Fireball]

lets get this shit into OT :lmao

[Kawhitstorm]

Simmons :lol

He is getting frustrated that he isn't touching the ball & got too excited when he had a chance too attack. Simmons should be running the offense b/c he is most valuable w/ the ball instead of wack as Williams trying to go 1-on-1 like Harden. DeShaun ain't much better either.

Simmons should get the ball at the top of the key not at the corner or wing so he has multiple driving lanes & he can see the entire floor.

[hater]

Lmao just saw a spurs fan leaving the arena :lol

[RD2191]

Lmao just saw a spurs fan leaving the arena :lol

Robdiaz tbh

[spursgu]

Simmons has been disappointing trash.

[313]

I think this run started right after I turned the game on :lmao

Sorry for the jinx fellas, turning the game off now

[spurraider21]

holy shit reggie did a thing

[hater]

Ray ray!!!!!!

[TheGreatYacht]

JaMychal Green could've been here had they cut Errors.... There's no 5th big on this team.

[ElNono]

cut all these cats + jimmer

[Hoops Czar]

pee-wee basketball

[hater]

Williams the only bright spot tbh

Bunch of scrubs holy shit we are fucked

[SAGirl]

No Jimmer tonight.....

[Kawhitstorm]

Simmons finally gets the ball at the top of the key & finds the open man

[Fireball]

what happened to the Ray that relentlessly attacked when he played the Spurs last season?

[siraulo23]

This lineup so undermatched :lol no chance

[Lostwingman]

Time to burn everything down.

[Darius Bieber]

what happened to the Ray that relentlessly attacked when he played the Spurs last season?

He doesn't have Parker guarding him.

[hater]

Tank

[SAGirl]

Pop still trying to coach these guys. Got to love him.

[hater]

Ray ray!!!! Love this man. Cold blodded

[TheGreatYacht]

Ndoye is fucking awful. Holy shit.

[cd98]

Surprised scrubs didn't get much time. Starters logged most of the minutes.

[hater]

Udonis haslem is an amazing player btw

[spurraider21]

jimmer would have made that

[ace3g]

almost Ray

[FkLA]

Allright I've seen enough...

McCallum >>> Enrique

[ElNono]

maybe next season, tbh

[BillMc]

Fire Pop! :lol

[Fireball]

He doesn't have Parker guarding him. I am not hating on Parker ... but you might be right with that

[hater]

Lmao if Ray woulda made that. This forum would have exploded

[Mugen]

what happened to the Ray that relentlessly attacked when he played the Spurs last season?

No Porky guarding him tbh.

[BillMc]

Rewind to the LMA show...

[Kawhitstorm]

This lineup so undermatched :lol no chance

Ndoye is completely useless on offense so they were playing 4-5 w/ Reggie/DeShaun being 2 of the 4.

[hater]

This loss is on pop. Didn't play ray tbh. Asshole

[Fireball]

No Porky guarding him tbh. you were late ... Bieber beat you on that one

[cd98]

Lmao if Ray woulda made that. This forum would have exploded

Alas the board has overrated yet another scrub. Spurs are a 10 deep team and that's it.

[DenialTwist]

Can they waive Boban? lol he is terrible.

[Chinook]

Bizzarro game compared to the last one. Starters played very well, bench sucked. Ndoye and Boban were both disappointments along with the Spurs' three SL MVPs. Only constant is that Reggie Williams should have been cut. Wanted to see a lot more Butler, especially in place of Anderson with that second unit.

[TheGreatYacht]

Ndoye 0pts, 0reb
Deshaun Thomas 0/3, 0ast
Reggie HArden 1/4, t r a s h

[Kawhitstorm]

Cut DeShaun/Williams..play Simmons 30 minutes & let him run the offense. If he fails miserably then cut him & sign someone mid-season. Otherwise, Simmons is being forced to be a spectator while the other scrubs hog the ball & when he get the ball it's at the wing or the corner which is a disadvantage for a slasher. You can tell he's frustrated & gets overzealous when he gets the ball which is leading to traveling calls. We just haven't seen enough of him w/ the ball in positions where he's able to do his thing to judge him whatsoever.

[spurtech09]

preseason who cares lol

[TimDunkem]

Lol Cut Simmons after two pre-season games. Smh

[Kawhitstorm]

Bizzarro game compared to the last one. Starters played very well, bench sucked. Ndoye and Boban were both disappointments along with the Spurs' three SL MVPs. Only constant is that Reggie Williams should have been cut. Wanted to see a lot more Butler, especially in place of Anderson with that second unit.

I think Butler is a known commodity so Pop was trying to give DeShaun some minutes. He didn't take advantage of it so he isn't helping his cause. Simmons wasn't worse than lotto pick Winslow who actually had opportunities to drive.

[Kawhitstorm]

what happened to the Ray that relentlessly attacked when he played the Spurs last season?

Can't do that when Nyode is setting the screen but nobody is bothering to guard him.

[DenialTwist]

Cut DeShaun/Williams..play Simmons 30 minutes & let him run the offense. If he fails miserably then cut him & sign someone mid-season. Otherwise, Simmons is being forced to be a spectator while the other scrubs hog the ball & when he get the ball it's at the wing or the corner which is a disadvantage for a slasher. You can tell he's frustrated & gets overzealous when he gets the ball which is leading to traveling calls. We just haven't seen enough of him w/ the ball in positions where he's able to do his thing to judge him whatsoever.

Sounds reasonable.

[cd98]

Cut DeShaun/Williams..play Simmons 30 minutes & let him run the offense. If he fails miserably then cut him & sign someone mid-season. Otherwise, Simmons is being forced to be a spectator while the other scrubs hog the ball & when he get the ball it's at the wing or the corner which is a disadvantage for a slasher. You can tell he's frustrated & gets overzealous when he gets the ball which is leading to traveling calls. We just haven't seen enough of him w/ the ball in positions where he's able to do his thing to judge him whatsoever.

Isnt this post supposed to be in blue?

[Spurtacular]

Minus 11, zero assists for McCallum. No surprises there.

[SAGirl]

Well pretty excited that the first unit got its groove going. Tim is still the engine and playmaker in that unit God bless him! His game w/ LMA will be beautiful to watch. Danny's cold atm, Tony was setting others up well, I thought he had a good game. Kawhi had a bad shooting night, but otherwise a good game.

Concerns about the second unit arise, but I think they will be fine. Miami's second unit is crazy athletic so it was a challenge for slomo Anderson, slomo Manu, slowmo Boban and co. Anderson is a young guy so he's likely to have up and down performances, it's part of the process and if you want to let young guys grow and improve they will make mistakes at times and have to learn from it. Preseason is the perfect time to figure him out. Boban had a rough night. Feel sorry for him.

Deshaun Thomas looked overmatched, not NBA material. Reggie can shoot, that is why he's still here, but he doesn't defend well, and tries to do too much. He got an extended look in this game. Not sure where he stands. I liked Ray, subbed in with a terrible lineup, he still looked like an NBA player. Ndoye is very raw, but also very agile for a big. With perimeter players that are a disaster he would look worse. I actually think he has some potential to develop. Simmons had a few nice passes and some good defensive moments so I hope we keep him, I really like him with Anderson and he supplies athleticism that Anderson lacks, but he's obviously not a shooter so it's kind of a jam.

I think Butler may end up being picked if only bc with all of slowmo and Simms potential they are developing and a vet wing to mentor them and maybe sub in if they are having a rough night may actually be a good idea.

Didn't see Jimmer so he's bound to play next game. This would have been a perfect game to see him TBH.

[Spurtacular]

Simmons ain't getting cut this year. They could trade him; but I don't see that happening...

[Birn]

Can someone post a replay of the game when it becomes available? Thanks.

[tholdren]

Ray bad. Anderson bad. Simmons like a method head running around. Williams bad. Butler bad. Odd game

[SAGirl]

Wanted to see a lot more Butler, especially in place of Anderson with that second unit. It seemed to me Pop was experimenting with Anderson, which I am all for TBH. As bad as he looked at times, he also had a few good moments. Unlike the vets, he's adjusting to the NBA still, since he played so little last season and even less minutes in games you were actually counting on him to keep or gain a lead. In that sense, he's like a rookie. As bad as he was at times, specially the fouls, the unit in the fourth quarter without him was worse. In perspective, more than anybody else Anderson needs these games to figure his own stuff out.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, the starters look OK...

[Kawhitstorm]

It seemed to me Pop was experimenting with Anderson, which I am all for TBH. As bad as he looked at times, he also had a few good moments. Unlike the vets, he's adjusting to the NBA still, since he played so little last season and even less minutes in games you were actually counting on him to keep or gain a lead. In that sense, he's like a rookie. As bad as he was at times, specially the fouls, the unit in the fourth quarter without him was worse. In perspective, more than anybody else Anderson needs these games to figure his own stuff out.

I think today's game was dedicated to the starters & the end of bench scrubs since the bench already showcased their stuff in the first preseason game.
Pop being Pop & not giving a fuck after he saw all he needed w/ the starters:pop:

[TheDoctor]

Lets tank
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-09-2015/XqrtBU.gif

[Kawhitstorm]

Boban had a rough night. Feel sorry for him.



Boban was still a force on defense protecting the rim he just needs to play freely on offense. He looked decent posting up so that might be a way to get him comfortable rather than throwing the ball at him in traffic & expecting him to catch/finish.

[SAGirl]

I think today's game was dedicated to the starters & the end of bench scrubs since the bench already showcased their stuff in the first preseason game.
Pop being Pop & not giving a fuck after he saw all he needed w/ the starters:pop:
:flag:
In addition, he gave playing time to scrubs who won't make the team just because he had to. This was a throwaway at the end.

[Horse]

Was it just me or was Miami and their crowd a little too excited for a preseason game?

[TheDoctor]

Boban was still a force on defense protecting the rim he just needs to play freely on offense...

Yeah fuck that guy.
He tries on defense and shit. What a fucking loser.

[DenialTwist]

Was it just me or was Miami and their crowd a little too excited for a preseason game?

Their team missed the playoffs last season that's probably why they were hyped for a win in the preseason.

[Kawhitstorm]

Was it just me or was Miami and their crowd a little too excited for a preseason game?

Their wounds from 2014 still haven't healed & their nemesis was in town.

[Kawhitstorm]

The bench needs an infusion of a live body in the form of Jan Vesely. I can't imagine Bonner playing w/ the SlowMo crew........

[james evans]

oh shit, the spurs are 0-2 in the preseason. We need to blow this team up and package leonard with aldridge and green.

[Ice009]

:lol Simmons over Green for the minimum.

Which "Green" are you referring to?

[Hoops Czar]

Which "Green" are you referring to?

Gerald

[Ice009]

Gerald

I didn't think we could get him? Was he actually interested in coming here? I was interested in him, especially if he would have signed for a 1 year minimum deal, but I figured he wanted to go somewhere where he'd get more court time, so even if he was willing to sign for the minimum, I thought he wanted to play for a team what would give him more minutes. I don't think he would have been guaranteed that on the Spurs.

[Emperor]

I'm ready for that season opener against OKC, i know the starters will be aswell. The second unit should be fine once Boris plays.

[Hoops Czar]

I didn't think we could get him? Was he actually interested in coming here? I was interested in him, especially if he would have signed for a 1 year minimum deal, but I figured he wanted to go somewhere where he'd get more court time, so even if he was willing to sign for the minimum, I thought he wanted to play for a team what would give him more minutes. I don't think he would have been guaranteed that on the Spurs.

Nah, Spurs never inquired. He was definitely available for the taking though but, the Spurs as usual took a flier on untapped potential with little to know NBA experience over a proven vet. Ya know, the "lightning in a bottle" strategy. I hope it pays off but, after two preseason games, he's been pretty underwhelming and that's putting it mildly.

[Nathan89]

Gerald

I'm sure the Spurs would've signed him if they could.

[Hoops Czar]

I'm sure the Spurs would've signed him if they could.

They never tried. They felt Anderson and Simmons were enough, tbh. That's quite the gamble because if one or both don't pan out, their bench will be shorthanded at SF.

[SAGirl]

I didn't think we could get him? Was he actually interested in coming here? I was interested in him, especially if he would have signed for a 1 year minimum deal, but I figured he wanted to go somewhere where he'd get more court time, so even if he was willing to sign for the minimum, I thought he wanted to play for a team what would give him more minutes. I don't think he would have been guaranteed that on the Spurs.
I think Goran Dragic recruited him heavily since they were teammates in PHX

[SAGirl]

I'm ready for that season opener against OKC, i know the starters will be aswell. The second unit should be fine once Boris plays.
This TBH. I like Boban, but he's a project that will take time to adjust.

[Ice009]

They never tried. They felt Anderson and Simmons were enough, tbh. That's quite the gamble because if one or both don't pan out, their bench will be shorthanded at SF.

Well there were people here talking about getting him during the off-season as he's Danny Green's cousin. From what I read though, they're not close, but they are still cousins so I figured the Spurs had some chance if they were interested in him and he was willing to take the minimum.

Surely the Spurs would have contacted him if they were interested, or maybe they did and he told them he wasn't interested and wanted to go to a team where he's likely to get consistent minutes. I think Goran Dragic played a part in getting him to Miami and if I'm remembering correctly, Green had his best season in the NBA when Dragic was the starting PG of the Suns. I did mention that at the time (SAGirl reminded me with her post below) as being one of the main reasons why I thought he chose Miami.

Has G. Green said anything about the free agency period and if there were other teams he was looking at? Also, wasn't Simmons signed well after Green signed with Miami? So I'm not sure what the Spurs were supposed to do there, just sign no-one? Maybe they started looking at Simmons after all those other guys were gone. It's hard to say without knowing if the Spurs tried to sign him or not.

[Hoops Czar]

Well there were people here talking about getting him during the off-season as he's Danny Green's cousin. From what I read though, they're not close, but they are still cousins so I figured the Spurs had some chance if they were interested in him and he was willing to take the minimum.

Surely the Spurs would have contacted him if they were interested, or maybe they did and he told them he wasn't interested and wanted to go to a team where he's likely to get consistent minutes. I think Goran Dragic played a part in getting him to Miami and if I'm remembering correctly, Green had his best season in the NBA when Dragic was the starting PG of the Suns. I did mention that at the time (SAGirl reminded me with her post below) as being one of the main reasons why I thought he chose Miami.

Has G. Green said anything about the free agency period and if there were other teams he was looking at? Also, wasn't Simmons signed well after Green signed with Miami? So I'm not sure what the Spurs were supposed to do there, just sign no-one? Maybe they started looking at Simmons after all those other guys were gone. It's hard to say without knowing if the Spurs tried to sign him or not.

The only teams that showed an interest in him to my knowledge were Portland, Miami and Boston. I asked Paul Garcia via twitter if the Spurs showed interest in GG and his answer was no though, I don't know how credible sources are. They both signed roughly around the same time, July 9th-11th. I don't remember which domino fell first. Let me put it this way, if the Spurs were interested, they kept a real low profile about it. I still think Anderson/Simmons were the reasons why they passed on a player like Green. I know Green isn't a great defender but, neither is the combo of Simmons and Anderson. They could have used the extra depth.

Edit: I'm talking about agreeing to terms, not actual signings. The Spurs actually signed Simmons late in July IIRC.

[BillMc]

Highights for those who missed the game.

http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/teams/spurs/2015/10/13/1444704595353-EOG-HEAT.mp4-54584


LMA highlights too:

http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/teams/spurs/2015/10/13/1444702917024-LA-At-HALF.mp4-54543

[Emperor]

Highights for those who missed the game.

http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/teams/spurs/2015/10/13/1444704595353-EOG-HEAT.mp4-54584

Da fuck was that? Mostly Heat highlights.

[BillMc]

Da fuck was that? Mostly Heat highlights.

Yeah, I sent the wrong link. Some Miami B.S.:lol It's been corrected with better highlights in the original post.

[Ice009]

The only teams that showed an interest in him to my knowledge were Portland, Miami and Boston. I asked Paul Garcia via twitter if the Spurs showed interest in GG and he said no, though, I don't know how credible sources are. They both signed roughly around the same time, July 9th-11th. I don't remember which domino fell first. Let me put it this way, if the Spurs were interested, they kept a real low profile about it. I still think Anderson/Simmons were the reasons why they passed on a player like Green. I know Green isn't a great defender but, neither is the combo of Simmons and Anderson. They could have used the extra depth.

Fair enough. If the Spurs showed no interest, then I think they may have passed on a good player as I did actually want him. My main concern with him was his lack of defense, but I figured that he could improve that with the Spurs. Having said that, I still didn't think he'd want to come here, or even if he did, I didn't think he's sign for the minimum without any guaranteed minutes to go along with it.

[Kawhitstorm]

I think Goran Dragic recruited him heavily since they were teammates in PHX

Danny is his cousin too but he might have gotten a similar offer (moneywise) from the PATFO so there were other incentives to signing w/ the Heat:
-More minutes/shots (6th man)
-Longer leash (he's a gunner)
-Living in South Beach (he seems like a flashy guy)
-Heat being a contender in the East (the LeBron formula to making 5 straight Finals appearances)

[SAGirl]

The only teams that showed an interest in him to my knowledge were Portland, Miami and Boston. I asked Paul Garcia via twitter if the Spurs showed interest in GG and his answer was no though, I don't know how credible sources are. They both signed roughly around the same time, July 9th-11th. I don't remember which domino fell first. Let me put it this way, if the Spurs were interested, they kept a real low profile about it. I still think Anderson/Simmons were the reasons why they passed on a player like Green. I know Green isn't a great defender but, neither is the combo of Simmons and Anderson. They could have used the extra depth.

Edit: I'm talking about agreeing to terms, not actual signings. The Spurs actually signed Simmons late in July IIRC.
Leads me to believe they are quietly higher in Anderson's potential than anyone here thinks. There is also Pop's fit and character comments.

[Kawhitstorm]

Yes. Bosh is the best PF in the game. People have forgotten that.

:lol...Anthony Davis says otherwise. Blake in beast mode is the 2nd best PF & Toronto Bosh is better than LMA. Bosh making LMA silly on defense is not surprising considering the difference in their foot speed, Bosh is probably as quick as someone like Durant.

[apalisoc_9]

Speaking of bigmen, didn't the spurs express interest with M.Gasol first before Aldridge?

I xan totally see why since gasol is probably a million times better fit than Aldridge since he wouldn't be needing touches to keep him happy. He would have been an easier player to transition in the offense and defense and both are about the same age.

I wonder If Aldridge was always the 2nd option after Gasol...

[Kawhitstorm]

Speaking of bigmen, didn't the spurs express interest with M.Gasol first before Aldridge?

I xan totally see why since gasol is probably a million times better fit than Aldridge since he wouldn't be needing touches to keep him happy. He would have been an easier player to transition in the offense and defense and both are about the same age.

I wonder If Aldridge was always the 2nd option after Gasol...

It's not a secret the PATFO want Marc but he had made it clear he wasn't leaving Memphis. They had to jump on the LMA bandwagon before the ship sailed otherwise they would have been left eating a pie in sky. Marc is tailor made to play in a motion offense & isn't a diva about playing center.

[apalisoc_9]

It's not a secret the PATFO want Marc but he had made it clear he wasn't leaving Memphis. They had to jump on the LMA bandwagon before the ship sailed otherwise they would have been left eating a pie in sky. Marc is tailor made to play in a motion offense & isn't a diva about playing center.

More importantly he's one of the best Post passers in the game. Aldridge is really poor in this regard. he's a beast scorer but quite frankly he's predictable. The defense Knows he's going to try to score when he has the ball...

The issue I have with Gasol though is that he just has days where he's trying to play like a role player offensively...way too many last year, specially in the last two months of the season where barely even shot the ball. I have no idea how our offense would have looked with parker's decline..Leonard would have been the only legitimate option on those games and even leonard has his problem with being passive sometimes...

[Kawhitstorm]

More importantly he's one of the best Post passers in the game. Aldridge is really poor in this regard. he's a beast scorer but quite frankly he's predictable. The defense Knows he's going to try to score when he has the ball...

The issue I have with Gasol though is that he just has days where he's trying to play like a role player offensively...way too many last year, specially in the last two months of the season where barely even shot the ball. I have no idea how our offense would have looked with parker's decline..Leonard would have been the only legitimate option on those games and even leonard has his problem with being passive sometimes...

He would essentially have been replacing Tiago thus it would have been a huge upgrade offensively. Marc along w/ Kawhi would have been able to make up for the declining productions of Tony/Tim. If D-West still signed then Pop would have been able to mix & match his PF/C combo. The thing about LMA is that he can single handily carry an offense when he's in a zone unlike Gasol who is very tentative about putting a team on his back which is an issue in the postseason. Otherwise, Gasol can dominate a game without scoring unlike LMA.

[kobyz]

So how much the spurs lead was this time that pop succeed to blow away? No metter who is coaching or against who, the most naive coach in history owe to this kind of crap time after time...

[apalisoc_9]

So how much the spurs lead was this time that pop succeed to blow away? No metter who is coaching or against who, the most naive coach in history owe to this kind of crap time after time...

The spurs were up 15 before pop started to play the tryouts. he didn't blow away anything. The 4th quarter was essentially a tryout.

[kobyz]

The spurs were up 15 before pop started to play the tryouts. he didn't blow away anything. The 4th quarter was essentially a tryout.

He played his second team against heat second team i belive, the point is there is somthing bad, naive, soft in him that tend to waste big leads and losing games that should have won, time after time after time... No metter who's playing and what the moment... This is why spurs have the most and the hardest heartbreaking loses in history of the game... But people will keep making him the second coming of Jesus...

[apalisoc_9]

He played his second team against heat second team i belive, the point is there is somthing bad, naive, soft in him that tend to waste big leads and losing games that should have won, time after time after time... No metter who's playing and what the moment... This is why spurs have the most and the hardest heartbreaking loses in history of the game... But people will keep making him the second coming of Jesus...

he doesn't need to coach a tryout team. Coaches don't coach tryout players..they let them play so Coaches can evaluate them better in the process.

Stop being obtuse.

[Kawhitstorm]

He played his second team against heat second team i belive, the point is there is somthing bad, naive, soft in him that tend to waste big leads and losing games that should have won, time after time after time... No metter who's playing and what the moment... This is why spurs have the most and the hardest heartbreaking loses in history of the game... But people will keep making him the second coming of Jesus...

You're a Jew though so you don't worship Jesus.:downspin:

[kobyz]

he doesn't need to coach a tryout team. Coaches don't coach tryout players..they let them play so Coaches can evaluate them better in the process.

Stop being obtuse.

There is a bigger picture, it's a syndrome, somthing in DNA! What is that in him that who ever he is coaching automatic the team get this naive mentality stuff?

[MAxEric]

any full recap of this game?

[HarlemHeat37]

Danny is his cousin too but he might have gotten a similar offer (moneywise) from the PATFO so there were other incentives to signing w/ the Heat:
-More minutes/shots (6th man)
-Longer leash (he's a gunner)
-Living in South Beach (he seems like a flashy guy)
-Heat being a contender in the East (the LeBron formula to making 5 straight Finals appearances)

I would have been fine with Green, but he would be a pretty poor fit with the Spurs, both on and off the court, tbh..

[Chinook]

:lol...Anthony Davis says otherwise. Blake in beast mode is the 2nd best PF & Toronto Bosh is better than LMA. Bosh making LMA silly on defense is not surprising considering the difference in their foot speed, Bosh is probably as quick as someone like Durant.

Forgot about Davis. Though he's going to end up being a center by the end of this upcoming contract. Bosh is better than Blake, though, at least I'd rather have him. Blake's more talented, though.

[Dex]

Well pretty excited that the first unit got its groove going. Tim is still the engine and playmaker in that unit God bless him! His game w/ LMA will be beautiful to watch. Danny's cold atm, Tony was setting others up well, I thought he had a good game. Kawhi had a bad shooting night, but otherwise a good game.

Concerns about the second unit arise, but I think they will be fine. Miami's second unit is crazy athletic so it was a challenge for slomo Anderson, slomo Manu, slowmo Boban and co. Anderson is a young guy so he's likely to have up and down performances, it's part of the process and if you want to let young guys grow and improve they will make mistakes at times and have to learn from it. Preseason is the perfect time to figure him out. Boban had a rough night. Feel sorry for him.

Deshaun Thomas looked overmatched, not NBA material. Reggie can shoot, that is why he's still here, but he doesn't defend well, and tries to do too much. He got an extended look in this game. Not sure where he stands. I liked Ray, subbed in with a terrible lineup, he still looked like an NBA player. Ndoye is very raw, but also very agile for a big. With perimeter players that are a disaster he would look worse. I actually think he has some potential to develop. Simmons had a few nice passes and some good defensive moments so I hope we keep him, I really like him with Anderson and he supplies athleticism that Anderson lacks, but he's obviously not a shooter so it's kind of a jam.

I think Butler may end up being picked if only bc with all of slowmo and Simms potential they are developing and a vet wing to mentor them and maybe sub in if they are having a rough night may actually be a good idea.

Didn't see Jimmer so he's bound to play next game. This would have been a perfect game to see him TBH.

Hey, look! An objective game summary that isn't full of player bashing and cliff jumping!

[Dex]

:lol at everybody freaking out that our 3rd and a half unit apparently looked like crap.

2 games into preseason and SpursTalk is already in midseason form.

[NikosChelsea7]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S8a3x9IEPU

[TheDoctor]

:lol at everybody freaking out that our 3rd and a half unit apparently looked like crap.

2 games into preseason and SpursTalk is already in midseason form.

:lol at everybody not catching the sarcasm/jokes.

[TheDoctor]

nobody here posts sarcasm/jokes, we only posts truthbombs

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[Dex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S8a3x9IEPU

:toast

[random21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S8a3x9IEPU

Thanks, was able to catch most of it... But didn't catch the end of the fourth....

[RD2191]

http://media.giphy.com/media/OibvGpervy9Xi/giphy.gif

:lol

[From Downtown]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S8a3x9IEPU
Thanks mate

[Mr Bones]

Best signs for me in this game:

Duncan going 7-7 playing alongside LMA. Teams will regularly put their better defender on the younger LMA all year, leaving Duncan as the beneficiary.

Distribution of shots by the starters:
KL: 15
LMA: 12
Duncan: 7
Parker: 7
Green: 6

I'd like to see Parker shoot a few threes each game to keep the defenses honest, but otherwise the starters looked great. I look for Aldridge and Kawhi to lead in shot attempts, and Duncan to have an Artis-Gilmore-like FG%.

[ceperez]

Best signs for me in this game:

Duncan going 7-7 playing alongside LMA. Teams will regularly put their better defender on the younger LMA all year, leaving Duncan as the beneficiary.

Distribution of shots by the starters:
KL: 15
LMA: 12
Duncan: 7
Parker: 7
Green: 6

I'd like to see Parker shoot a few threes each game to keep the defenses honest, but otherwise the starters looked great. I look for Aldridge and Kawhi to lead in shot attempts, and Duncan to have an Artis-Gilmore-like FG%.

I don't think KL should be the leader in shot attempts. I really don't think that he's an efficient enough scorer. Maybe in a couple of years, but not this coming year.

I want to see LMA take every open shot he's give. I don't want to see him to post up his man.

Duncan is absolutely going to have a field day this year! Not only is the defender going to be weaker, he's got an option to pass it to a scorer like LMA. I don't think there's a team that can matchup against those two.

[Kawhitstorm]

Forgot about Davis. Though he's going to end up being a center by the end of this upcoming contract. Bosh is better than Blake, though, at least I'd rather have him. Blake's more talented, though.

Bosh's legacy is going to hang on his post-LeBron career. He can't shrink in the postseason when he's arguable the best player on the Heat. I remember him getting his ass busted by scrubby ass Mikki Moore in a postseason series when he was in Toronto & an MVP candidate. Blake on the other hand was the best PF in the postseason in 2015 & he is still improving as a player (esp. shooting).

[SpursFan86]

I'm not so sure Marc would've been a better fit than LMA. Feel like him and Duncan's skillsets overlap moreso than LMA and Duncan's. LMA spaces the floor better and is more mobile on defense, both of which are pretty important given Duncan's decline in those aspects.

[BillMc]

Best signs for me in this game:

Duncan going 7-7 playing alongside LMA. Teams will regularly put their better defender on the younger LMA all year, leaving Duncan as the beneficiary.

Distribution of shots by the starters:
KL: 15
LMA: 12
Duncan: 7
Parker: 7
Green: 6

I'd like to see Parker shoot a few threes each game to keep the defenses honest, but otherwise the starters looked great. I look for Aldridge and Kawhi to lead in shot attempts, and Duncan to have an Artis-Gilmore-like FG%.
:bobo

[BillMc]

I don't think KL should be the leader in shot attempts. I really don't think that he's an efficient enough scorer. Maybe in a couple of years, but not this coming year.

I want to see LMA take every open shot he's give. I don't want to see him to post up his man.

Duncan is absolutely going to have a field day this year! Not only is the defender going to be weaker, he's got an option to pass it to a scorer like LMA. I don't think there's a team that can matchup against those two.

Yes, and a happy Duncan is likely to play longer. Go on Timmy, give us 3 or 4 more seasons! :flag: Prove to the world 40 to 45 isn't fatal.

Hell, prove 50 isn't fatal.:lol

[spursistan]

Bosh's legacy is going to hang on his post-LeBron career. He can't shrink in the postseason when he's arguable the best player on the Heat. I remember him getting his ass busted by scrubby ass Mikki Moore in a postseason series when he was in Toronto & an MVP candidate. Blake on the other hand was the best PF in the postseason in 2015 & he is still improving as a player (esp. shooting).
Yep..Bosh is still yet to get it done as the top dog in the postseason..remember Timmy roughing him up in Game 6 1st half and was embarrassingly held scoreless in Game 7 of NBA Finals....

[Namundy]

Still surreal as hell to see LMA in a Spurs uni.

[Kawhitstorm]

I'm not so sure Marc would've been a better fit than LMA. Feel like him and Duncan's skillsets overlap moreso than LMA and Duncan's. LMA spaces the floor better and is more mobile on defense, both of which are pretty important given Duncan's decline in those aspects.

Gasol was one of the best mid-range shooters last year (same FG% from 16>3 as LMA) & is just as mobile as LMA. The guy won DPOY w/o being a great shot blocker/rebounder b/c he was a very versatile defender for a center. His offense is also more diverse than LMA.

[tbdog]

Best signs for me in this game:

Duncan going 7-7 playing alongside LMA. Teams will regularly put their better defender on the younger LMA all year, leaving Duncan as the beneficiary.



I always thought that. Having Kanter mark TD In the playoffs is a huge plus for us.

[apalisoc_9]

I don't think KL should be the leader in shot attempts. I really don't think that he's an efficient enough scorer. Maybe in a couple of years, but not this coming year.

I want to see LMA take every open shot he's give. I don't want to see him to post up his man.

Duncan is absolutely going to have a field day this year! Not only is the defender going to be weaker, he's got an option to pass it to a scorer like LMA. I don't think there's a team that can matchup against those two.

Stop talking basketball..you are embarrasing.

[RayTdropout]

Lol

[Gladney to see you]

Their speed will definitely test us.

[DrSteffo]

Hey, look! An objective game summary that isn't full of player bashing and cliff jumping!

Yep still some decent posters here among all the trolls/wankers.