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SLOVENIAN 8

09-16-2005, 03:30 PM

http://www.eurobasket2005.com/en/files/{D3BEA3F0-21DC-47D5-9B2B-6052F8444507}large_v.jpg

Serbian TV broadcasting live:

http://www.wwitv.com/portal.htm?http://www.wwitv.com/television/235.htm

Just click on RTS 2

Official page: http://www.eurobasket2005.com/en/default.asp

Today finished games:

Germany 82 : 84 Italy
Croatia 88 : 84 Bulgaria
Slovenia 74 : 65 Bosnia & Herzeg
Latvia 65 : 74 Israel

Other games still playing

More info. later and next day......

velik_m

09-16-2005, 03:34 PM

Spain 89:70 Serbia & Montenegro

gus

09-16-2005, 03:45 PM

Fuck Obradovic

I Can't understand how he can not beat those bloody Spaniards ( they are tough ) I have Spanish passport but I hate them. Even their best players are from other countries Lithuania, Argentina, USA, Serbia etc. but always fuck everybody, perhaps the coach is a genius.

Gus

drivanroca

09-16-2005, 03:54 PM

Rasho... 2 pts?

Kobayagi

09-16-2005, 03:55 PM

Greece - France 64-50

SLOVENIAN 8

09-16-2005, 04:13 PM

Rasho... 2 pts?

Yes something is wrong with him this year really, Brezec eats him alive, he better to to something..........

Kobayagi

09-16-2005, 04:17 PM

Greece - France 64-50

The French scored 7 points in the 1st quarter and another 7 in the 2nd...that's 14 pts in halftime!?

That's gotta be something for the record books. :lol

SLOVENIAN 8

09-16-2005, 04:19 PM

http://www.wwitv.com/portal.htm?http://www.wwitv.com/television/235.htm

On RTS2 is retape of game FRA-GRE watch it :spin :lol

Kobayagi

09-16-2005, 04:31 PM

Russia - Ukraine 86-74

Kirilenko 22 pts and 14 rebs for Russia.

SLOVENIAN 8

09-16-2005, 04:34 PM

All games:

Preliminary Round

GROUP A (Vršac, SCG)
Germany 82
84 Italy

Russia 86
74 Ukraine

1. Russia 1/0 2
2. Italy 1/0 2
3. Germany 0/1 1
4. Ukraine 0/1 1

GROUP B (Podgorica, SCG)
Croatia 88
84 Bulgaria

Turkey 75
87 Lithuania

1. Lithuania 1/0 2
2. Croatia 1/0 2
3. Bulgaria 0/1 1
4. Turkey 0/1 1

GROUP C (Beograd, SCG)
Slovenia 74
65 Bosnia & Herzeg.

France 50
64 Greece

1. Greece 1/0 2
2. Slovenia 1/0 2
3. Bosnia & Herzeg. 0/1 1
4. France 0/1 1

GROUP D (Novi Sad, SCG)
Latvia 65
74 Israel

Serbia & Montenegro 70
89 Spain

1. Spain 1/0 2
2. Israel 1/0 2
3. Latvia 0/1 1
4. Serbia & Montenegro 0/1 1

SLOVENIAN 8

09-16-2005, 04:37 PM

LEADING SCORERS
Dirk Nowitzki
GER
Avg: 27.0
Born: 19.06.1978
Height: 2.13
Points Per Game

Name Avg
1. Nowitzki, D. 27.0
2. Stoykov, T. 27.0
3. Basile, G. 25.0
4. Giricek, G. 22.0
5. Kirilenko, A. 22.0

LEADING REBOUNDERS
Dirk Nowitzki
GER
Avg: 15.0
Born: 19.06.1978
Height: 2.13

Total Rebounds
Name Avg
1. Nowitzki, D. 15.0
2. Kirilenko, A. 14.0
3. Galanda, G. 10.0
4. Tapiro, M. 10.0
5. Brezec, P. 9.0

ASSIST LEADERS
Dimitrios Diamantidis
GRE
Avg: 6.0
Born: 06.05.1980
Height: 1.96

Assists
Name Avg
1. Diamantidis, D. 6.0
2. Angelov, D. 4.0
3. Becirovic, S. 4.0
4. Holden, J. 4.0
5. Samoylenko, P. 4.0

drivanroca

09-16-2005, 04:38 PM

Thank's SLOVENIAN8

Slo spurs fan

09-16-2005, 04:42 PM

yeah, rasho sucks. thats whats wrong with him. in the last 18 games of the playoffs, he played exactly 59 minutes. i dropped a deuce today that took longer than that. he's awful. he is getting paid $45 million to sit on the bench, look like an idiot, and get laughed at during championship parades.

Yeah, he's rich idiot, idiot.

SLOVENIAN 8

09-16-2005, 04:46 PM

If he will be such an idiot he wont be payed 48million$ , idiots could only be Spurs who pay him.
I watch some older games of Rasho, before he came to SA and he was playing really good, last season at Minnesota was really cool but i dont know how he cant attack the rim anymore and be agressive like in old times, i dont see the reason for that and that is the big?????????????????????

SLOVENIAN 8

09-16-2005, 04:57 PM

can anyone translate that last post for me? i dont speak retarded

Pol se pa navad Slovensko :lol :lol

Brutalis

09-16-2005, 05:43 PM

Who are the top 5 non-NBA players in Euro ball?

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand

09-16-2005, 05:46 PM

Who are the top 5 non-NBA players in Euro ball?

You mean from European countries (born there) or playing in Europe?

Fuck Obradovic

I Can't understand how he can not beat those bloody Spaniards ( they are tough ) I have Spanish passport but I hate them. Even their best players are from other countries Lithuania, Argentina, USA, Serbia etc. but always fuck everybody, perhaps the coach is a genius.

Gus

Lol, I have similar feelings, I don't know if I "hate" them, but certainly I can't stand them. Question: Do you post in the ACB.com forums?

Brutalis

09-16-2005, 05:48 PM

I mean playing in Eurobasket currently.

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand

09-16-2005, 06:07 PM

Some names that come to my mind right now:

Nikola Vujcic - Center (Croatia/ Maccabi Tel-Aviv)
Antoine Rigaudeau - Guard (France/ Pamesa Valencia) -yes, he was a flop in Dallas-
Mickael Gelabale - Forward (France/ Real Madrid)
Gianmarco Pozzecco - Guard (Italy/ BC Khimky Moscow)
Massimo Bulleri - Guard (Italy/ Armani Jeans Milano)
Gianluca Basile - Guard (Italy/ Barcelona)
Matteo Soragna - Guard (Italy/ Benetton Treviso)
Giacomo Galanda - F/C (Italy/ Armani Jeans Milano)
Denis Marconato - C (Italy/ Barcelona)
Robertas Javtokas - C (Lithuania/ Lietuvos rytas Vilnius)
Igor Rakocevic - G (Serbia & Montenegro/ Real Madrid)
Dejan Tomasevic - C (Serbia & Montenegro/ Panathinaikos Athens)
Jose Manuel Calderon - G (Spain/ Tau Ceramica Vitoria)
Rudy Fernandez G - (Spain/ DKV Joventut Badalona)
Jorge Garbajosa - C/F (Spain/ Unicaja Malaga)
Juan Carlos Navarro G - (Spain/ Barcelona)
Felipe Reyes F/C - (Spain/ Real Madrid)
Sergi Vidal - F/G (Spain/ Tau Ceramica Vitoria)
Antonis Fotsis - F (Greece/ Dynamo St.Petersburg)

Two things to consider: I posted more Spanish and Italian players because I can't get many info. on other leagues (specially Eastern Europe) because of language barriers.

Second, this is just a list of players I like, or consider good for one reason or another.

FreshPrince22

09-16-2005, 06:45 PM

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand

09-16-2005, 06:47 PM

That Juan Navarro dude for Spain was just ridiculous today against Serbia. He was lighting it up the entire first half, and Spain never looked back. Serbia needs to get Krstic and Darko more involved because their other frontcourt players are just SLOW right now.

He is the kind of player that can go hot and make 8 three pointers in one game, but then go cold and shoot 0-8. Very streaky, but overall, the days he is shooting well are more than those when he is cold.

Bruno

09-16-2005, 07:57 PM

Greece - France 64-50

France sucks, they only put 14 points in the first half (20 min).

Javtokas make a quite good game 8 pt with a 4/6 anf 4 rbd.
The stats are not great but he makes a very good job on Okur on Defense (only 7 points). This guy will likely join the Spurs next offseason.

velik_m

09-17-2005, 01:54 AM

zeleni

09-17-2005, 02:42 AM

Bodiroga?

Lakovic? Siskausas? Stelmahers? That giant Greek center? There is a lot of holes in your list...

But I have BIG problems with names you DID post...

Bulleri, Soragna, Galebale, Vidale, are all odd names. Pick better. Even some israeli players are better than this. It just isn't sound.

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand

09-17-2005, 03:27 AM

Lakovic? Siskausas? Stelmahers? That giant Greek center? There is a lot of holes in your list...

But I have BIG problems with names you DID post...

Bulleri, Soragna, Galebale, Vidale, are all odd names. Pick better. Even some israeli players are better than this. It just isn't sound.

As I said, I get more information on Spanish and Italian teams than the rest, if I could find some sites in english/spanish/portuguese/italian with information on Eastern European leagues and players I could have another perspective. Yes, Bodiroga is out, but I was posting only those who play in Eurobasket 2005. Some Israeli players are good, but Maccabbi's best players (which is the only good team in the Israeli league) are foreigners. The Italians are there because they are doing a good job with their national team. Just like some Argentinian players that aren't outstanding in their clubs, but they play a perfect role in the National Team (Wolkowisky, Sanchez, Montecchia, Sconochini).

velik_m

09-17-2005, 03:34 AM

Yes, Bodiroga is out, but I was posting only those who play in Eurobasket 2005.

S&M roster:
http://www.eurobasket2005.com/en/cid_SbGnUV12IgwUcAUu7UmfU1.pageID_MoI,BSrrH7o-tFECErFFF0.compID_qMRZdYCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_20 05.roundID_3769.teamID_92330.html

;)

milkyway21

09-17-2005, 03:36 AM

France sucks, they only put 14 points in the first half (20 min).

so, CBS was wrong in predicting France might win in this tournament, then?

Eight things to watch at the European Championships

Sep. 16, 2005
By Tony Mejia
CBS SportsLine.com Staff Writer

The European Championships get under way this weekend in Serbia-Montenegro, and there are many themes worth watching that affect not only the NBA, but the global game as well.

Dirk Nowitzki must deal with constant pressure from the opposition. (Getty Images)
The host Serbs are ranked second in the world behind the United States by FIBA, the world's governing body for basketball. Winning this event won't push them past the U.S., but considering they've won the past two world championships, it will further close the gap given American struggles in recent international events. Indeed, the 2006 World Championships in Japan will be telling, and the overriding goal for the European teams is to claim one of the six automatic berths up for grabs. The tournament runs through Sept. 25 and will have all first-round action completed by Monday.

Here are eight trends to watch, and we'll follow up next week:

1. The favorites: Sacramento's Peja Stojakovic opted not to play, but Serbia-Montenegero remains the team to beat, particularly as the host country. Suiting up New Jersey's Nenad Krstic, Seattle's Vladimir Radmanovic and Minnesota's Marko Jaric as its stars alongside European-based standouts Dejan Bodiroga and Igor Rakocevic, the team is loaded. Jaric and Krstic will have more visible roles with their NBA teams next season, so it will be interesting to see how they take to large roles on their national side. Jaric, who becomes Kevin Garnett's primary feeder this fall, could break out in this tournament and really establish some positive momentum entering camp. Krstic, who's clearly going to be a good one based on his strong rookie season, will get further acclimated to the role of primary post player. He's expected to play ahead of everyone's favorite backup ...

2. Darko Milicic: For his sake, we hope he sees more time than Larry Brown ever gave him; his game has clearly eroded while sitting the bench the past two seasons. He has looked indecisive and lost the few times he has seen action, and the rustiness carried over to this year's summer session. A strong run through this event might be just what's needed to re-establish his confidence entering a season in which he'll certainly have to play in order to avoid becoming Euro-speak for Kwame Brown.

3. Spanish influence: Memphis' Pau Gasol is indeed overseas, but instead of playing, he'll be providing commentary for the team's television broadcasts. It's good news for the Grizzlies that he opted to rest this summer given his history of injury, but he still expects his countrymen to deliver a ticket to next year's Worlds. Orlando Magic lottery pick Fran Vazquez, staying in Europe this season, will help anchor the team alongside Toronto point guard prospect Jose Manuel Calderon. Rudy Fernandez, who flirted with the draft this year but saw his stock slip to the point where it was wiser for him to back out, will also look to impress, as will 18-year-old Sergio Rodriguez, a playmaker who has pro scouts excited and who Jose Manuel Fernandez of Spanish publication Mundo Deportivo told me would be the country's next great export. They should be able to hold off Israel and Latvia in Group D, particularly since the Latvians are without the services of Golden State's Andris Biedrins and former UNLV standout Kaspars Kambala.

4. Don't strain yourself, Dirk: Dallas' Dirk Nowitzki is the only player who was an All-Star last season to be competing in the event, and he'll have to do some heavy lifting to carry Germany into the top six. Fellow frontcourt standout Ademola Okulaja, who played at North Carolina, will be absent with an injury. Patrick Femerling, who played at Washington, is expected to be Nowitzki's primary partner in the post. It won't be easy to get past Italy, and it will be nearly impossible to overcome Russia and win Group A.

5. Russian rise: Andrei Kirilenko will captain the Russian side, which also features Portland wings Viktor Khryapa and Sergei Monya in prominent roles. All three are long, fluid and versatile, which means that national side may be the most fun to watch in the entire event. Kirilenko should face off against Nowitzki when their teams meet, providing the premier matchup of the tournament. Russia feels it has a team capable of winning a medal, possibly gold, but needed a point guard to fully capitalize ...

6. What's J.R. translate to in Russian? American J.R. Holden, who played at Bucknell through 1998, has developed into one of the top guards in Europe, leading CSKA Moscow to great heights. As a result, according to the Moscow Times, the general manager for CSKA made the case to the Russian Federation that he be accepted as a naturalized citizen due to "special merit," which would supersede the standard criteria of speaking the language and living there for a minimum of five years. His special merit? The point guard skills Russia needed. Holden joined the team earlier this month. Henry Domercant, a scoring machine at Eastern Illinois, made a similar move in joining the Bosnian team.

7. French connection: Led by San Antonio's Tony Parker, France is going to be a force; the continued improvement its stars have made overseas should pay off in a lengthy run. Parker is the centerpiece, flanked by Golden State's Mickael Pietrus, new Phoenix acquisition Boris Diaw and recent Seattle draft pick Mickael Gelabale. Pietrus' development as a scorer last season bodes well for France, while receiving major minutes on a team filled with explosive wings should do wonders for Diaw as he prepares for his move to the Suns. He's an instinctive playmaker hoping to earn significant playing time with his new team, perhaps at the expense of fellow offseason pickup Raja Bell. The French should run, literally, through a Group C that features Slovenia and pro big men Rasho Nesterovic, Uros Skolar and Erazem Lorbek (Michigan State), whose height could cause problems.

8. Missing Lithuanians: Normally a force in the international game, Lithuania will be hindered heavily by the absence of its best players, as all of its NBA talent has opted not to suit up. Zydrunas Ilgauskas, having just re-upped with Cleveland for a hefty pay day, is resting. Sarunas Jasikevicius, perhaps the top shooter in Europe and one of its best guards, is preparing for his debut season with the Indiana Pacers. Darius Songaila, Linas Kleiza and Arvydas Macijauskas, recently signed by New Orleans, also begged off for various reasons. That opens the door for Turkey, fueled by Utah's Mehmet Okur and Orlando's Hedo Turkoglu, to step in and take Group B, although Croatia will also have its say.

Predicted group winners: Russia, Turkey, France, Serbia-Montenegro.

Final two to earn Japan 2006 berths: Spain, Greece.

:rolleyes

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand

09-17-2005, 03:36 AM

S&M roster:
http://www.eurobasket2005.com/en/cid_SbGnUV12IgwUcAUu7UmfU1.pageID_MoI,BSrrH7o-tFECErFFF0.compID_qMRZdYCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_20 05.roundID_3769.teamID_92330.html

;)

Ups, sorry about that one. I thought he retired from National Team after the 2004 Olympics?

SLOVENIAN 8

09-17-2005, 03:39 AM

Predicted group winners: Russia, Turkey, France, Serbia-Montenegro.

:lol :lol France 1st :lol :lol

SpizdiStrann

09-17-2005, 04:55 AM

Eight things to watch at the European Championships

Sep. 16, 2005
By Tony Mejia
CBS SportsLine.com Staff Writer
.....

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

this man is retarded.. :lol

france sux as no one right now. tony fa**n parker is bust.. and french team would be far better without him!!

zeleni

09-17-2005, 06:17 AM

1. It's not Skolar, it's Slokar.

2. French have lots of problems, and will have to at least qualify for quarterfinals. I hope they pick up the pieces and improve, but as a fan of Slovenia I rather would not want France to meet Slovenia. Their game against Bosnia will make the united or crushed. Writer didn't look up anything while writing this piece of shit. Only important connection to watch is Antoine(exDallas)-Tony(SA). That is the core of the problem and a solution.

3. Igor Rakocevic played for NBA team and has more of a NBA-style then European. When he came back here, he just used up his minutes. Writer was inconsistent to forget Igor's Minnesotta adventure.

4. Turkey to win? What was he smoking? I mean... That surreal! If he speaks fo global game, how he can... I mean, Croatia to be ignored on basis of Okur and Hedo?

5. Greece should be in Japan, but France is a winner of this group? So Slovenia is a decorum? Retarded he is not, inconsistent to the bone he surely is!

Bruno

09-17-2005, 07:31 AM

so, CBS was wrong in predicting France might win in this tournament, then?

Do you imagine Spurs winning the nba title with Malik Rose at startign PF and Masenburg at starting C?

The french starting PF is a poor man Rose (Florent Pietrus, Mike brother)
and the starting center is a poor man Massenburg (Cyil Julian).

France has great guards and swingmen (Parker, Diaw, Pietrus, Rigaudeau, Gelabale) but without quality big men, you can't win a tournament.

Slo spurs fan

09-17-2005, 07:41 AM

7. French connection: Led by San Antonio's Tony Parker, France is going to be a force; the continued improvement its stars have made overseas should pay off in a lengthy run. Parker is the centerpiece, flanked by Golden State's Mickael Pietrus, new Phoenix acquisition Boris Diaw and recent Seattle draft pick Mickael Gelabale. Pietrus' development as a scorer last season bodes well for France, while receiving major minutes on a team filled with explosive wings should do wonders for Diaw as he prepares for his move to the Suns. He's an instinctive playmaker hoping to earn significant playing time with his new team, perhaps at the expense of fellow offseason pickup Raja Bell. The French should run, literally, through a Group C that features Slovenia and pro big men Rasho Nesterovic, Uros Slokar and Erazem Lorbek (Michigan State), whose height could cause problems. No Primoz Brezec (7-1, 252; 13ppg,7,4 rpg with Bobcats this year)?

zeleni

09-17-2005, 10:52 AM

No Primoz Brezec (7-1, 252; 13ppg,7,4 rpg with Bobcats this year)?

Man, that even more worrying! The guy doesn't know even his own league!

:pctoss :idiot :bang

zeleni

09-17-2005, 11:39 AM

some amazing live results:

France is losing against Bosnia (Parker has 2pt/1rb/3as) Result 40:39 (never been ahead). Both teams have players on fire, but France is one Parker short od being a team?

Italy is losing big time against Russia? After half time: 46-15!!!

Latvia is more hot than Spain?

SLOVENIAN 8

09-17-2005, 12:21 PM

France is leading 79 - 62 against Bosnia but the funny shit is that Parker have 2pts, 3 reb, 3 asist in almost whole game :lol :lol :lol :lol

SLOVENIAN 8

09-17-2005, 12:28 PM

http://www.wwitv.com/portal.htm?http://www.wwitv.com/television/235.htm

CrO-LLITVA live on RTS2 --> http://www.wwitv.com/portal.htm?http://www.wwitv.com/television/235.htm

angel_luv

09-17-2005, 12:29 PM

France is leading 79 - 62 against Bosnia but the funny shit is that Parker have 2pts, 3 reb, 3 asist in almost whole game :lol :lol :lol :lol

What happened to Tony???????

SLOVENIAN 8

09-17-2005, 12:31 PM

What happened to Tony???????
i dont know i am wating for report on TV.....

SLOVENIAN 8

09-17-2005, 12:33 PM

Tony Parker 26 min 2 pts, 3 reb 3 asist, 4 TO and shooting 1/8 :lol :lol

Boxscore:
http://www.eurobasket2005.com/en/cid_SbGnUV12IgwUcAUu7UmfU1.pageID_Tw3b5iaSGMcQoW9f HJDFl0.compID_qMRZdYCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2005.r oundID_4316.teamID_.gameID_4316-C-4-2.html

angel_luv

09-17-2005, 12:34 PM

i dont know i am wating for report on TV.....

I hope whatever ails Tony is cured... on Monday!!

Solid D

09-17-2005, 01:08 PM

Tony Mejia should stick to refining his work in the NBA because he clearly has no clue on how good France is. France is middle of the pack, at best, of all the Eurobasket teams participating. They are a donut team and any team with an inside presence should easily take advantage of the hole in the middle.

ata

09-17-2005, 01:15 PM

What does Toni Mejia usually cover? Bowling?

Slo spurs fan

09-17-2005, 03:34 PM

What does Toni Mejia usually cover? Bowling?

:lol :tu

SLOVENIAN 8

09-17-2005, 05:21 PM

Some great dunks, but not from Belgrade 2005 :lol :lol

http://www.dumpalink.com/media/1126773390

reader

09-17-2005, 05:24 PM

2. French have lots of problems, and will have to at least qualify for quarterfinals. I hope they pick up the pieces and improve, but as a fan of Slovenia I rather would not want France to meet Slovenia. Their game against Bosnia will make the united or crushed. Writer didn't look up anything while writing this piece of shit. Only important connection to watch is Antoine(exDallas)-Tony(SA). That is the core of the problem and a solution.

I thought Rigaudeau played well in the game Tony sat out.

Some questions though, how bad is Tony's sore calf, is that causing his poor shooting? What are the chemistry problems on the team, I know Tony was irked regarding Weis? Diaw had good game vs B/H. Does anyone know if Diaw played the point when Tony sat? The 7 assists seem to indicate it, but not watching, I cannot tell. Don't the Suns want Diaw to play backup point for Nash?

Alain

09-17-2005, 06:37 PM

Facts:

-Suns are trying to find ways to beat the Champs (like any contender)

-They want Diaw to play the point

-Diaw is one of TP's best friends

reader

09-17-2005, 07:20 PM

Facts:

-Suns are trying to find ways to beat the Champs (like any contender)

-They want Diaw to play the point

-Diaw is one of TP's best friends

They may want Diaw to play the point, but is he capable of doing so? Did he actually play point in this game or was he the off guard?

Did not know that about Tony and Diaw.

Bruno

09-17-2005, 07:50 PM

They may want Diaw to play the point, but is he capable of doing so? Did he actually play point in this game or was he the off guard?

Did not know that about Tony and Diaw.

I don't know if he plays PG in this game but he can't be an effective PG in nba. He is too slow to be PG.

Suns have no real backup PG.
The best thing to do for them is to use one of their undersized SG (barbosa and house) to take care of the ball and give the ball to diaw on offense to create something.

You can compare him to Brent Barry without the jumpshot and with more defensive intensity (He is too a freakin dunker).

Diaw has a lot of upside (more than Pietrus).

Boris is Tony's best friend, they were teamates when they were 16, they
phoned every day during the nba season, they used to spend the all star break together (at Las Vegas).

SLOVENIAN 8

09-18-2005, 03:46 AM

Here you can download highlights: LINK (http://download1.mediazone.com/mzdownload.php?ItemUrl=http://download.mediazone.com/media/downloads/fiba/basketball/2005/highlights/e-Highlights_Day2_Belgrade_700k.wmv) :smokin

zeleni

09-18-2005, 04:27 AM

I thought Rigaudeau played well in the game Tony sat out.

Some questions though, how bad is Tony's sore calf, is that causing his poor shooting? What are the chemistry problems on the team, I know Tony was irked regarding Weis? Diaw had good game vs B/H. Does anyone know if Diaw played the point when Tony sat? The 7 assists seem to indicate it, but not watching, I cannot tell. Don't the Suns want Diaw to play backup point for Nash?

exactly. If both of them can be a foundation for the team, then French become twice as hard to beat. Then they can go further towards the title. Last year Parker alone was not enough, so Antoine presence is as vital as Tony's game. French NBA connection is not at all so important or interesting as to national sport legends making two seperate quality teams. Bosnia prepared for Parker and was killed by Rigaudeau. Now that IS interesting to watch. Especially for Slovene people. ;)

adrien

09-18-2005, 04:47 AM

tony said his last two games with france were the worse of his whole career with the national team. He added that he didn't care as long as france wins.

zeleni

09-18-2005, 05:24 AM

that is why SA Spurs were champs.

adrien

09-18-2005, 05:55 AM

Another quote by parker:
"I know i don't play at my level. With all the technical changes i am bringing to my shoot, i have lost the rythm. I am a bit lost. I felt well in limoges (last week), but i ve lost everything in here. When you start to miss quite often, you start to lose confidence. I am waiting for a big game. We have to build something on yesterday's victory and use it against Slovenia. This is THE game."

It is a bit scary.

Slomo

09-18-2005, 07:03 AM

It is a bit scary.
Yes it is. But I respect him for the fact that he is trying to improve his game. Changing his shot must scare the hell out of him and I'm sure he's working really hard at it. It may be the cause for concern early in the season but I hope it'll pay off eventually.

zeleni

09-18-2005, 07:08 AM

Parker will be better next game. This game remains ours to win. ;)

Slo spurs fan

09-18-2005, 08:29 AM

France And Slovenia Both Await Big Night
By Yarone Arbel

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18 September 2005
Since joining the European basketball family in 1993, Slovenia have yet to miss a EuroBasket, an achievement of which few teams can boast.

However, despite possessing some of Europe’s top basketball talent, Slovenia have yet to make a real impact on the event and have never qualified for the quarter-final stages.

Against France on Sunday, Slovenia can add a new chapter to their basketball history and a win would be enough to secure a place in the top eight.

Nobody is under any illusions as to the game’s significance. "It's the most important game in Slovenian basketball history, because it can put us, for the first time in history in the top 8," said Ales Pipan after the win over Greece.

Boris Diaw has been France's top performer so far at EuroBasket

"I especially would like to thank our fans because they were with us for 40 minutes, and I expect them to be here in the game against France as well," added Pipan whose team has been given a boost by the presence of several thousand Slovenian fans in Belgrade.

Pipan chose to cancel the morning practice and give his player more time to rest after the big win over Greece on Saturday, 68-56, a performance that has people talking about Slovenia as legitimate gold medal contenders.

After two days Slovenia are the best defensive rebounding team at EuroBasket, averaging 30 rpg. Slovenia can rely on skilled big men Radoslav Nesterovic, Primoz Brezec, Bostjan Nachbar and Erazem Lorbek on the boards, but rebounding is a team concept for Slovenia, with guards Sani Becirovic, Jaka Lakovic and Marko Milic pulling down 9 rebounds each over the first 2 games.

France waited over 6 quarters before showing up to EuroBasket 2005, but what coach Claude Bergeaud saw in the last 2 quarters of his side’s 79-62 win over Bosnia-Herzegovina gives him cause for optimism.

Boris Diaw's performance showed why he's in the NBA. Diaw was everywhere on court and carried his team to their first EuroBasket2005 win .But he is fully aware that a loss to Slovenia could spell the end of France’s EuroBasket hopes.

" It looks like the third place in our group will have to play against Serbia and Montenegro in the next round, and it's not very good to play against them in a do-or-die game in their home country," he said.

France have two big concerns going into the Slovenia game. The first is the continued poor performance of Tony Parker and the second is the health of Mickael Pietrus

After two games Parker is still without a free throw (0/3) or three-pointer (0/5) to his name. He has scored a total of only 12 points at 6/17 from 2 point range and is averaging 3.5 turnovers.

Pietrus has been in better form and was a key component in France’s win over Bosnia-Herzegovina with 22 points and 7 rebounds. However, he has a knee injury, and although he says he wants to play, it is unclear if he will be able to manage significant minutes.

Without Parker in good shape it will be almost impossible for France to progress to the latter stages of the tournament, and coach Bergeaud doesn't want to heap more pressure onto his star guard: "I hope Tony will comeback especially in shooting. He didn't have a lot of practice during preparation, and so we must control his time of game. If he plays too much in one game, he won't be able to finish the competition," he said.

After two games France are the worst three-point shooting side in the competition at only 6/32 (18.8%). France are also last in free throw percentage with a poor 49%. What has kept France alive so far is the offensive boards, where they lead the competition with an impressive average of 15.5 per game.

Bearing in mind that Slovenia are the tournament’s top defensive rebounding team, the battle for control of the boards may well be the decisive factor in which side emerges with a win.

xcoriate

09-18-2005, 08:39 AM

What has kept France alive so far is the offensive boards, where they lead the competition with an impressive average of 15.5 per game

Thats pretty amazing with the lack of bigs they have.

boutons

09-18-2005, 08:46 AM

"After two games Parker is still without a free throw (0/3) or three-pointer (0/5) to his name. He has scored a total of only 12 points at 6/17 from 2 point range and is averaging 3.5 turnovers."

Sounds like Tony has aligned his basketball with his bitching. Can't he produce outside of Pop's system? He had some really big, team-leader-type games in the losses.

angel_luv

09-18-2005, 08:49 AM

I am waiting for a big game. We have to build something on yesterday's victory and use it against Slovenia. This is THE game."

Yes, and it is ours!
Slovenia :king

Admidave50

09-18-2005, 09:17 AM

TP played horribly! Hope he will play better against Slovenia !!

SLOVENIAN 8

09-18-2005, 09:27 AM

TP played horribly! Hope he will play better against Slovenia !!
Hope not :smokin

angel_luv

09-18-2005, 10:08 AM

Hope not :smokin

We'll take him regardless. = )

emveepee

09-18-2005, 11:33 AM

macijauskas?

TDMVPDPOY

09-18-2005, 11:41 AM

Hope slovenia trashes france, n rasho puts up solid stats

JMarkJohns

09-18-2005, 12:31 PM

I don't think Phoenix wants Diaw to play the traditional PG role, playing at the one position. They might want him to cause mismatches by initiating the offense through the 2/3/4 spots, however, similer to what McGrady does, but obviously to far lesser extent.

I'm excited to see the kid. He seems ready and willing to contribute and has been putting up some good numbers against NBA players/stars.

velik_m

09-18-2005, 03:43 PM

Germany : Russia 51:50

what a horrible game...interesting but a crime against basketball.

drivanroca

09-18-2005, 03:54 PM

Germany : Russia 51:50

what a horrible game...interesting but a crime against basketball.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :smokin

Kobayagi

09-18-2005, 05:25 PM

After 1st round of EC, Rasho is one of only ten players to achieve a double-double in one of the games. He's also the 6th rebounder after first 3 games with an average of 7 rebs per game. When it comes to defensive rebs, he's number 4 - following 3 NBA players: Nowitzky (Dallas), Khryapa (Portland) and Kirilenko (Utah).

As long as he's still a member of the Spurs, I think we should all be proud of him and let's hope that this is a sign he's improved his game.

JMarkJohns

09-18-2005, 06:41 PM

Is there an official site for up-to-date scores/standings/stats?

That would be great...

Bruno

09-18-2005, 06:45 PM

Is there an official site for up-to-date scores/standings/stats?

That would be great...

just read the first post

JMarkJohns

09-18-2005, 06:52 PM

That would be all too easy, now wouldn't it :rolleyes

Thanks!

SLOVENIAN 8

09-20-2005, 10:44 AM

EuroBasket2005.com Records Record Traffic

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20 September 2005
A record number of visitors have logged onto EuroBasket2005.com after 4 days of the competition.

The web site has received more than 500,000 visits during the three days of the preliminary round and 6 million pageviews.

On average, viewers have stayed logged onto the web site for 18 minutes, with 25% of users staying for more than 30 minutes.

EuroBasket2005.com offers comprenehsive coverage of Europe's top basketball tournament.

From game previews and reports, interviews and features on players, live statistics and video highlights, to all the statistics and standings from the competition, EuroBasket2005.com has it all.

However, EuroBasket2005.com is just one way to experience EuroBasket.

Television coverage is available in 120 countries accross the world, and for those countries where there is no television, games can be watched online at http://www.mediazone.com/channel/basketball/jsp/index.jsp.

In addition, over 800 international journalists are in Serbia & Montenegro bringing the event to newspapers, radio and television stations and internet sites across the world.

TDMVPDPOY

09-20-2005, 11:50 AM

^^very good that the euro tourny is gettin alot of attention

zeleni

09-20-2005, 03:08 PM

Parker will be better next game. This game remains ours to win. ;)

and he is gettin better frightfully soon. What was that Rasho said to him. That was making him suprisingly determined, i see. Well, I wish him the best results until we meet again, that is.

SLOVENIAN 8

09-21-2005, 03:00 PM

In this Arena Slovenia will palay against Germany in friday :smokin

http://www.boox.co.yu/images/20040806/images/IMG_2066.jpg

angel_luv

09-21-2005, 03:14 PM

I'll be home to watch . = )

tp time

09-23-2005, 09:53 AM

please a victory for slovenia, i want a final slovenia-france...no more pressure

waly.mg

09-23-2005, 11:24 AM

Hope not :smokin

TP can play good and Slovenia can win, TP can play bad and France Win

alamo50

09-23-2005, 11:42 AM

I am in freakin' Europe and the game ain't on any channel anywhere over here damned!!!

:pctoss

tp time

09-23-2005, 11:50 AM

No basketball team in Netherlands?

nkdlunch

09-23-2005, 11:51 AM

Rasho - 0,0,0 2 fouls, 1 To

SLOVENIAN 8

09-23-2005, 04:27 PM

At last we could watch good game betwen CRO-SPA right now :smokin

SLOVENIAN 8

09-23-2005, 04:36 PM

Its overtime 73-73 :smokin

adrien

09-23-2005, 04:38 PM

Spain won 100-85 in OT

SLOVENIAN 8

09-23-2005, 04:42 PM

Great game :smokin :smokin

angel_luv

09-23-2005, 05:43 PM

Good! Hopefully they wore Croatia out.

Solid D

09-23-2005, 05:47 PM

All Croatia needed to do was box out on that last FT miss by Spain.

tp time

09-24-2005, 09:43 AM

FRANCE-HELLAS h-1 hour

Kobayagi

09-24-2005, 03:53 PM

Another dramatic end of the game in the other semifinal. Nowitzky sent the spaniards home with 3 seconds to go.

Solid D

09-24-2005, 03:55 PM

Wow - two incredible games today....1 point victory margins in both.

Greece beats France at the end.
Germany beats Spain at the end.

Dirk (27 pts) nails a baseline jumper over Garbajosa with 4 sec. remaining for the 1 point win, after JC Navarro had hit the runner the previous trip to go up by one.

Just like the Slovenia game, Germany lived by the 3-pointer.

Germany 13 3-pointers
Spain 2 3-pointers

angel_luv

09-24-2005, 03:57 PM

I hope Germany wins it all. The Slovenia will have been beaten only by the Champs.

Kobayagi

09-24-2005, 03:58 PM

I hope Dirk wins it too.

picnroll

09-24-2005, 04:18 PM

What's interesting about these games is how much it points out that it's the team that plays with more intelligence, not the team with more individual talent, that wins more often than not. This is something very few NBA fans seem to have figured out, right The Artest Factor.

SLOVENIAN 8

09-24-2005, 06:10 PM

antonis50

09-24-2005, 07:40 PM

Greece is much better defensively, their offense is balanced (highest scorer averages 12-13 points), fan support will be huge also. Griechenland uber Deutcheland tomorrow.

Streakyshooter08

09-25-2005, 04:58 AM

Wow... we really made the final!!! :elephant :elephant :elephant

I don't care if we win or lose this is far more than anyone could expect. I can't believe it. I am just going to enjoy the game tonight and hope we will play well. Greece is strong and it will be tough...

Slomo

09-25-2005, 08:14 AM

The refs in this championship were (are) just awful. They were driving me crazy in every game I saw - regardless of which teams were playing.

It turns out that FIBA still hasn't ratified all of the contracts with the different pro leagues and they can't therefore use refs from the Euroleague and other similar pro leagues. Basically we are seeing refs working the EC that can not get in the Euroleague because they suck too much.

Nice http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif

picnroll

09-25-2005, 08:49 AM

I wondered about the refing. After what I saw I was thinking "I'll never complain about Bennet Salvatore or Charlotte Palmer again".

Slomo

09-25-2005, 08:55 AM

I wondered about the refing. After what I saw I was thinking "I'll never complain about Bennet Salvatore or Charlotte Palmer again". :lol I had a similar thought about Salvatore, but chased it away with a couple of beers. http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smidrunk.gif

boutons

09-25-2005, 11:48 AM

FR is handling ES well, +8 pts at the half.

boutons

09-25-2005, 12:15 PM

wow, FR +20 with 3 min left in 3rd qtr. 4 FR players in/near double figures.

picnroll

09-25-2005, 12:26 PM

France up 26. How about taking Parker out so he doesn't get injured coach?

boutons

09-25-2005, 12:31 PM

FR is taking out their we-blew-Greece-game frustration on les Espanols. a massacre.

tp time

09-25-2005, 12:33 PM

Tp 19pts 5 ass
Pietrus M 21pts

France 83
Spain 60
Time: 5.50 period 4

first medal since 45 years in Eurobasket?

zeleni

09-25-2005, 12:35 PM

Go FRANCE GO!

boutons

09-25-2005, 12:40 PM

Nope, Parker playing all 4th qtr, with 2 mins left.

FR shooting 52% vs 41%.

picnroll

09-25-2005, 12:41 PM

1:20 to go, France up 26 and Parker still in. WTF

boutons

09-25-2005, 12:42 PM

With a little luck, FR will break 100. Los picadors are circling for the keell!

boutons

09-25-2005, 12:44 PM

un tres, tres grande CO CO RI CO pour la France. Bravo, les braves!!

tp time

09-25-2005, 12:46 PM

Yes!!!!!!!!!! :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant
98-68

Parker 25pts 5 assists
8/16 2pts
2/6 3pts
3/4 FT

boutons

09-25-2005, 12:49 PM

All rise for the medal ceremonie:

Allons enfants de la Patrie
Le jour de gloire est arrivé !
Contre nous de la tyrannie
L'étendard sanglant est levé
Entendez-vous dans nos campagnes
Mugir ces féroces soldats?
Ils viennent jusque dans vos bras.
Égorger vos fils, vos compagnes.

Refrain:

Aux armes, citoyens,
Formez vos bataillons,
Marchons, marchons !
Qu'un sang impur
Abreuve nos sillons !

14dave

09-25-2005, 01:53 PM

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great game from France! Tony was awsome!!!!!!!
Comment ça fait du bien!!!!!
Merci!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SLOVENIAN 8

09-25-2005, 02:15 PM

Greece is leading 10-4 and is dominating for now. In last 2 games Germans only have a luck that they hit this 3pt. Greece will win

SLOVENIAN 8

09-25-2005, 02:35 PM

Greece 37 - Germany 26

Go Greece :smokin

antonis50

09-25-2005, 02:37 PM

Dirk with 8 points, things are looking good right now.

ploto

09-25-2005, 02:42 PM

Interesting-- Slovenia beat 2 of the top 3 finishers.

picnroll

09-25-2005, 02:43 PM

Dirk's defense sucks wherever he plays. Apparently there is no D in _eutschland either.

Slo spurs fan

09-25-2005, 02:52 PM

France up 26. How about taking Parker out so he doesn't get injured coach?

Tony was VERY angry when coach took him out at the end of the 3rd quarter.
Tony wanted to play.

SLOVENIAN 8

09-25-2005, 03:01 PM

Germany only have luck in 2 games, and now playing in Finals , but Greece is destroying them right now :smokin :smokin

Our group was the strongest Greece, France and Slovenia. We had one bad day and that cost us finals, that is becou very hard tournamet rouls...

boutons

09-25-2005, 03:11 PM

D shooting 55% vs 50%, but still -10 with 3:45 left in 3rd qtr.

boutons

09-25-2005, 03:16 PM

Germany stone cold from 3pt range, 2/10.
Greece +margin is their 3G shooting.

Slo spurs fan

09-25-2005, 03:16 PM

D shooting 55% vs 50%, but still -10 with 3:45 left in 3rd qtr.
Lost balls (basketballs!!!) and poor rebounding will cost Germany gold medal.

antonis50

09-25-2005, 03:16 PM

Papaloukas is the man, assists 13-4 in favor of Greece, 58-44
Getting ready for the party, where's my nikka?
Pou eisai malaka Niko?

boutons

09-25-2005, 03:20 PM

yep, Ger 18 TO vs 5

SLOVENIAN 8

09-25-2005, 03:41 PM

Germany is not so good team they only have luck. One man cant do everything.

Lady M

09-25-2005, 03:45 PM

Greece europ Champion
78-62
1 greece
2 Germany
3 France :elephant

antonis50

09-25-2005, 03:47 PM

ÅËËÁÄÁÑÁ!
78-62, Best defense wins once again.
Thank you Greece:)

Solid D

09-25-2005, 03:53 PM

Greece is good at both ends of the floor. Excellent defenders and really the best team defense in Eurobasket 2005. They have guys who can score and take you off the dribble. Best of all, they are very well-coached. Their strategy against France to spread the floor and isolate the strengths of Papaloukas' ability to beat guys one-on-one off the dribble was the difference in that game (outside of what France did to themselves).

Greece was more mature and seasoned than France and their defense got Germany out of their comfort zone. Germany died by the three, just like they lived by it in it's two earlier games.

SLOVENIAN 8

09-25-2005, 03:53 PM

most important is that we owned Greece :smokin :smokin

picnroll

09-25-2005, 03:58 PM

France will be a hellacious defensive team though when Diaw, Mikael Pietrus, Gelabale and Mahinmi grow up.

SpursDork

09-25-2005, 04:08 PM

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/rids/20050925/i/r88995757.jpg

Who is that with TP - Mick? :)

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20050925/capt.xdmv11109251820.serbia_montenegro_european_ba sketball_championship_france_spain_xdmv111.jpg

SLOVENIAN 8

09-25-2005, 04:16 PM

We were the only team on turnament that beat Greece :smokin :smokin

ploto

09-25-2005, 04:18 PM

most important is that we owned Greece :smokin :smokin

I believe Greece won every game they played all summer, including all warm-up games, EXCEPT 1!!

reader

09-25-2005, 04:57 PM

Here is a brief write,Tournament MVP, Nowitzki, Diaw made the tournament team as well.

MVP Nowitzki Tops EuroBasket 2005 All-Tournament Team
By David Hein
25 September 2005

Germany's Dirk Nowitzki claimed the Most Valuable Player award at the 2005 EuroBasket and topped the competition's All-Tournament team.

Nowitzki won the honour - voted by international media representatives at Belgrade Arena - for leading Germany to Sunday's final against Greece. The Dallas Mavericks star went into the final as the tournament's leading scorer (26.7 ppg) and second-leading rebounder (10.8 rpg) and shot blocker (1.8 blpg).

Nowitzki carried his team, twice hitting shots in the final seconds to will Germany into the final and guaranteeing them their second EuroBasket medal following their gold medal at the 1993 championships in Munich.

Nowitzki was also voted by the media as the top power forward of the tournament.

He was joined on the All-Tournament team by Greek center Lazaros Papadoloulos (11.3 ppg and 3.7 rpg) and Greece's point guard Dimitrios Diamantidis, who led the tournament in assists (5.3 per game) had 5.2 rebounds and 6 points a game. Diamantidis also hit a three-pointer in the waning seconds against France to move the Greeks into the final.

France's Boris Diaw was picked as the top small forward for his all around game (13.7 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 3.4 apg, 1.0 spg, 1.3 blpg) in leading the French to the bronze medal.

Spain's Juan Carlos Navarro was selected as the top shooting guard, averaging 25.2 points and 1.2 steals as well as hitting 69-79 (87.3 per cent) free throws for the fourth-placed Iberians.

angel_luv

09-25-2005, 05:09 PM

Greece europ Champion
78-62
1 greece
2 Germany
3 France :elephant
6th Slovenia :king

Yea Tony and Rasho! :elephant

tp time

09-25-2005, 05:20 PM

http://www.eurobasket2005.com/en/files/{9F0A51C2-D3FC-4CED-8AC3-46459353C03E}large_v.jpg

tp time

09-25-2005, 05:21 PM

http://www.eurobasket2005.com/en/files/{7813B46D-3D5C-4CB2-9E6F-9F82E64DF365}large_h.jpg

angel_luv

09-25-2005, 05:21 PM

Any podium pictures yet?

telefuss

09-25-2005, 05:29 PM

france is so wonderful to watch

1Parker1

09-25-2005, 05:33 PM

http://www.eurobasket2005.com/en/files/{7813B46D-3D5C-4CB2-9E6F-9F82E64DF365}large_h.jpg

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! :elephant

Frenchise player

09-25-2005, 05:54 PM

Kobayagi

09-25-2005, 06:02 PM

A couple of random pics

Diaw
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/Kobayagi/Diaw.jpg

Tony
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/Kobayagi/Tony.jpg

The French :)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/Kobayagi/french.jpg

MVP
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/Kobayagi/Dirk.jpg

The Cup
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/Kobayagi/greece.jpg

The champs
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/Kobayagi/celebrating.jpg

angel_luv

09-25-2005, 06:05 PM

The French :)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/Kobayagi/french.jpg

That's good stuff! = )

Kobayagi

09-25-2005, 06:08 PM

Yup, and maybe Tony won't come back with his confidence destroyed after all :)

Pero

09-25-2005, 06:21 PM

Diaw played very good (not counting the free throws against Slovenia :) ), but the player who got my attention was Gelabele. He looks like he has a bright future. How old is he?

Kobayagi

09-25-2005, 06:27 PM

He's 22.

tophy7

09-25-2005, 07:14 PM

ÅËËÁÄÁÑÁ!
78-62, Best defense wins once again.
Thank you Greece:)
Go Hellas!!!
First Euro Soccer in 2004 now Euro Basketball in 2005 :)

Lady M

09-25-2005, 07:23 PM

Diaw played very good (not counting the free throws against Slovenia :) ), but the player who got my attention was Gelabele. He looks like he has a bright future. How old is he?
the most funny about Michael Gelabale is if you say it in french you can hear like in english "I got the ball " :lol

boutons

09-25-2005, 07:29 PM

Gelabale

J'ai la balle

:lol :lol :lol

Kobayagi

09-25-2005, 08:04 PM

J'ai la balle means I got the ball?

That's funny :lol

antonis50

09-25-2005, 09:00 PM

The Greek commentator said that the Lakers are going to offer a contract to Papaloukas. Laker scouter(s) were watching the games for quite awhile.

Solid D

09-25-2005, 09:10 PM

The Greek commentator said that the Lakers are going to offer a contract to Papaloukas. Laker scouter(s) were watching the games for quite awhile.

They could have drafted Fran Vazquez this year but they took Bynum instead at #10. Orlando got Vazquez at #11. Either one of them would not really help them this year but Vasquez is the more basketball-mature player. LA took Bynum and Turiaf and could have done much better.

Papaloukas was awesome in Eurobasket but he's only 6'6-1/2 or 6'7" (200cm) and the Lakers need a bigman more. Vazquez is a solid 6'10" and very skilled.

boutons

09-25-2005, 09:17 PM

Turiaf, any news on how he's doing?

Solid D

09-25-2005, 10:02 PM

I don't know about Turiaf.

On another subject, I'm not sure if it was posted elsewhere but in the Lithuania win over Slovenia, Rasho had 2 points and 2 reb. in 10 minutes, while Javtokas led Lith. in scoring with 22 points, 5 reb. in 27 minutes.

ploto

09-25-2005, 10:12 PM

Rasho has a brain and their team played to avoid injuries.

Solid D

09-25-2005, 10:17 PM

It makes sense to play it safe. I was reporting stats. Captain Rasho had a tough series, though and I'm sure he's disappointed.

angel_luv

09-25-2005, 10:37 PM

Rasho had two double doubles in five games,lost only to the silver medalists, and helped earn Slovenia it's first spot ever in the W.C.

He really ought to be at least a little bit pleased.

Solid D

09-25-2005, 11:15 PM

They lost to Germany and Lithuania, right Angel?

Nikos

09-26-2005, 12:36 AM

The Greek commentator said that the Lakers are going to offer a contract to Papaloukas. Laker scouter(s) were watching the games for quite awhile.

You sure that his statement has validity? I am looking on LG.net and there is no mention of the Lakers interest in Papaloukas?

angel_luv

09-26-2005, 02:09 AM

They lost to Germany and Lithuania, right Angel?

Yes. I forgot about Lithuania.

zeleni

09-26-2005, 02:21 AM

Yes. I forgot about Lithuania.

Okey, let me give you some help there, angel.

Slovenia has beaten all but the reigning European champion and the new silver medalist. Not just that, Slovenia has been the only one who has beaten the new European champion and was second only to Greece on wins over France who won the bronze. I think we should be satisfied. And still...winning a medal would be sweet.

History told us, that we cannot be better then 10th place. Now the stakes are higher.

Kobayagi

09-26-2005, 02:32 AM

On another subject, I'm not sure if it was posted elsewhere but in the Lithuania win over Slovenia, Rasho had 2 points and 2 reb. in 10 minutes, while Javtokas led Lith. in scoring with 22 points, 5 reb. in 27 minutes.

I posted the following on Slovenian National Team thread:

After the game Slokar said the guys were just trying to avoid any injuries today because it would be extremely stupid if anyone would get hurt in a game that doesn't really count. So I guess the Javtokas - Rasho comparison doesn't really show anything. Besides...I heard that Javtokas hasn't signed with any club for the upcoming season yet, so he probably tried to put up some good stats today.

You can see that Rasho played only for 10 minutes so Brezec could get some rest. Now, what would Pop say if Rasho got injured in a meaningless game?

angel_luv

09-26-2005, 09:47 AM

tp time

09-26-2005, 10:26 AM

The allstar five in this eurobasket 2005!!

http://www.eurobasket2005.com/en/files/{239EE234-4AB9-4A56-8159-F8F650DEB760}large_h.jpg

Congratulations boris!

Kobayagi

09-26-2005, 10:36 AM

The allstar five in this eurobasket 2005!!

http://www.eurobasket2005.com/en/files/{239EE234-4AB9-4A56-8159-F8F650DEB760}large_h.jpg

I wonder who the center is in this lineup :lol We've got 4 guards and one PF. :spin

Admidave50

09-26-2005, 10:37 AM

Okey, let me give you some help there, angel.

Slovenia has beaten all but the reigning European champion and the new silver medalist. Not just that, Slovenia has been the only one who has beaten the new European champion and was second only to Greece on wins over France who won the bronze. I think we should be satisfied. And still...winning a medal would be sweet.

History told us, that we cannot be better then 10th place. Now the stakes are higher.

By reading your post, it's like Slovenia should be considered as good as the European champion because they beated them in the first round?

Beat a good team doesn't mean that you are better or equal, you need to be good in important games that's all!

If a bad team beats San Antonio in the regular season it doesn't mean that this team is as good as the current champions, they need to beat them during the playoffs series to pretend to be better or equal.

Who gives a shit if the Suns had a better record than ours in the regular season as long as we kicked their ass in the playoffs?!

You guys are just trippin' too much about your slovenian team!! :drunk

angel_luv

09-26-2005, 10:42 AM

No one is trippin.

Okay so maybe the Slovenian Team was for a bit after their party the other night. :lol :lol :lol

We're just saying that Slovenia is an up and coming team, so watch out world!

Kobayagi

09-26-2005, 10:43 AM

By reading your post, it's like Slovenia should be considered as good as the European champion because they beated them in the first round?

Beat a good team doesn't mean that you are better or equal, you need to be good in important games that's all!

If a bad team beats San Antonio in the regular season it doesn't mean that this team is as good as the current champions, they need to beat them during the playoffs series to pretend to be better or equal.

Who gives a shit if the Suns had a better record than ours in the regular season as long as we kicked their ass in the playoffs?!

You guys are just trippin' too much about your slovenian team!! :drunk

I couldn't agree more with you and I'm slovenian.

Admidave50

09-26-2005, 10:55 AM

We're just saying that Slovenia is an up and coming team, so watch out world!

Yeah, I agree with that. Slovenia wasn't a real competitor in the past for the European Championship, but with young talents such as Beno or Brezec you can cause trouble to other teams for the next WC! :king

I'm just tired of listening some dudes saying that Slovenia is "sooo good", your team is getting better no doubt, but you can't pretend to be the best in Europe yet.

And I think that Greece winning the E.C. was a steal like what they did with the Soccer E.C. 2 years go!

No one would have put a penny on Greece to be the champs!

Serbia, Lithuania and Spain were the clear favorites!

I don't expect Greece to repeat.

angel_luv

09-26-2005, 10:58 AM

Admidave50

09-26-2005, 11:15 AM

Single elimination tournaments get real interesting because of the luck ( for lack of a better word) factor involved.

An established great team just needs to have one bad night and everything can change.

Yep, but you can't compare a 1st round game and a single elimination game (quarter, semi, finals).

You have to be good when it's important, don't matter who beated who during non-elimination games..
It's in these crucial games that you can see the players and the team's limits, that's those that can elevate their games that are the Champs by the end!

angel_luv

09-26-2005, 11:38 AM

The best teams this year = ) won, no question.

batman2883

09-26-2005, 11:42 AM

The best teams this year = ) won, no question.

I dont think so

angel_luv

09-26-2005, 11:43 AM

I dont think so

How would you have had the results turn out?

batman2883

09-26-2005, 11:46 AM

I would have had the results turn out with France the underdog coming in and taking the whole damn thing.......Only because they beat a top seed in S&M

angel_luv

09-26-2005, 11:48 AM

I would have had the results turn out with France the underdog coming in and taking the whole damn thing.......Only because they beat a top seed in S&M

So how was my statement incorrect if you wanted France "the underdog" to win?

batman2883

09-26-2005, 11:52 AM

i just felt like making a non thought out statement thats all.....were allowed one a day at the least right?

angel_luv

09-26-2005, 11:55 AM

i just felt like making a non thought out statement thats all.....were allowed one a day at the least right?

I don't know... let me think about it. :lmao

batman2883

09-26-2005, 12:08 PM

oh be quiet angel.....just be quiet...dork

Lady M

09-26-2005, 04:57 PM

I wonder who the center is in this lineup :lol We've got 4 guards and one PF. :spin
Boris Diaw can do everything
he can be the coach if you want :lol

SequSpur

09-26-2005, 09:25 PM

Foreign basketball is a waste of American TV time.

zeleni

09-27-2005, 03:18 AM

Foreign basketball is a waste of American TV time.

Tv time is a waste of time.

Time is an illusion. TV time double is so.

ata

09-27-2005, 03:25 AM

Foreign basketball is a waste of American TV time.
So is reading Sequ's posts.

Slo spurs fan

09-27-2005, 03:38 AM

Tv time is a waste of time.

Time is an illusion. TV time double is so.

This is too deep for Sequ. He won´t get it.

batman2883

09-27-2005, 08:11 AM

Holy shit who the hell does Greece have on their team that they beat Germany???

vanvannen

09-27-2005, 09:04 AM

This is a team sport. Greece has a great team and could have gone further in the Olympics if they didn't have to face Argentina.

batman2883

09-27-2005, 09:11 AM

Damn Argentina would have won the Euro Tourney.......too bad it was only for Europe

vanvannen

09-27-2005, 11:07 AM

:huh

Sorry, didn't get that one. Argentina has olympic gold, so it can't get any better for them. Greece has a good team and many argentinean players including Manu alleged that the game against Greece was probably the toughest of the olympics. (including the one against Team USA)

antonis50

09-27-2005, 02:36 PM

Greece vs Argentina was really close Batman, I'm sure you haven't watched the game. Vanvannen, right on the money.

batman2883

09-27-2005, 06:17 PM

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand

09-27-2005, 07:25 PM

But I'm saying Greece Vs. Argentina now, would still come up with the same outcome, Argentina with the victory....Manu is way more confident now after this past year i look for him to solidify his all start status during the regular season as well....

I wouldn't be so sure about that one. Right now, Greece don't have superstars, but they play a very very solid all-around game. Really, really, tough defense, and very balanced scoring, something like the Pistons. I remember the Olympics, there wasn't a moment in that game where I could say "that's it, we won", until the clock reached zero.

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand

09-27-2005, 07:27 PM

Foreign basketball is a waste of American TV time.

You are a waste of space in gardens.

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Rick Von Braun

09-28-2005, 12:05 AM

You are a waste of space in gardens.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/12/Drag.jpg
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Admidave50

09-28-2005, 04:08 AM

Holy shit who the hell does Greece have on their team that they beat Germany???

It just shows you how weak is Germany.. :lol

They're relying too much on their superstar Nowitzki and he didn't paly great when you see his FG%! Around 40-41%!