NBA Live '06 player ratings.

[IceColdBrewski]

Best of the best
K. Garnett - 96
L. James - 95
K. Bryant - 95
T. McGrady - 93
D. Wade - 91
T. Duncan - 91
S. Marion - 91
A. Stoudemire - 90
Shaq - 90
P. Pierce - 89
A. Iverson - 89
A. Kirlenko - 89
R. Wallace - 89
B. Davis - 89
V. Carter - 89
S. Francis - 89
S. Marbury - 88
M. Ginobili - 88
G. Arenas - 88
R. Allen - 88
J. Kidd - 88
J. Johnson - 87
J. Richardson - 87
R. Jefferson - 87
Y. Ming - 87
J. O'Neal - 86
E. Brand - 86
D. Nowitzki - 86
C. Anthony - 86
K. Martin - 85
B. Wallace - 85
S. Nash - 85
L. Hughes - 85

[E20]

Marion > Amare.....no way.

And as always Duncans' rating is too low.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Rasheed =89

??? No way. Way too high.....

[spursupporter]

AK47 is overated

[spursupporter]

J.Johnson too

[Dre_7]

Hey Brew, what is Tony rated in the game??? :lol

[IceColdBrewski]

Hey Brew, what is Tony rated in the game??? :lol

Dunno. I just saw this posted on another site. But it's fitting that he's nowhere on this list.

[Dre_7]

Dunno. I just saw this posted on another site. But it's fitting that he's nowhere on this list.

Well EA's ratings are kinda low.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Just more proof the better game is 2K6. 5 players better than Tim? Bullshit.

[Banks91]

Duncan is right around where he should be, considering the season he just came off of.
With the games missed due to injuries, and the career low stats for points and reb, its understandable where NBA live put him. They dont make that rankin on history, but wats happening right now. If they werent doin that, then Heat fans would also have something to gripe about with Shaq's position.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

They dont make that rankin on history, but wats happening right now.

Then how is Shawn "Still Seeing Bowen In My Head" Marion a friggin' 91?

[FreshPrince22]

You guys should see some of the other ones. Rip Hamilton is a 76. Where as Josh Smith is an 80, Andre Iguodala is a 83 (which is also higher than Chauncey:rolleyes), and Gerald-friggin-Wallace is a 77. It's laughable at best. I'll stick to the 2K series.
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[Banks91]

Wat problem u got with Marion and his 91.The rankin goes by the most recent season completed before the game is completed, which i am assumin was this 04-05 season, in which Marion actually had some sick stats, and thats where he got his ranking. Most likely the playoffs werent included, and if it was , then he would've probably gotten an even higher rankin without the playoffs.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

You said it went off recent history. Recent history was him getting punked against the Spurs to the tune that one of the game developers could have probably matched his stats.

Live has always had this stupid ass problem of someone who dunks a lot gets ranked higher than the guys who actually have some depth to their game outside of what you see on Sportscenter. They might as well rename the game NBA Jam.

It's why I go with 2K6.

[xcoriate]

Its why you update the rosters. :rolleyes

check out nba-live.com or nbalive.org

[Sense]

I think this is about Stats. :rolleyes

[K-9]

The ratings are usally stupid in NBA Live. "Big Names" still got "big games" (Glen Rice anyone) Another problem I see with NBA live is that the 3 point shooters are the best players. If one figured out how to get open with Reggie Miller in last years game one could score 50 ppg with him.
Also, Brent Barry is awesome in a video game because his dunk rating is still close to 99 (it's not 1996 anymore!) and his 3's are great(true). So he's like the perfect player in a video game.
Ballhandling doesn't mean jack if one doesn't try a crazy crossover. Speed, Dunk, and Shot rating is all that matters in a video game. I hope there's some improvment in the live series this year.

I was really dissapointed with Nba live 2005 because there was no fast breaks and it was hard to dunk on people because the defender had some force that sucked in every ball so that it was blocked. I wish Konami would make a basketball game. Pro evolution Soccer is a great game as far as feeling goes. Maybe they could make a as good basketball game.

[thekingrobert]

so the game is saying D. Nowitzki is worst than R. Jefferson yea right

[MI21]

This is misleading.

Tim Duncan is not going to have a higher rating than LeBron James because LeBron is quicker, more athletic, better ball handler, better passer, better 3 point shooter, better at stealing the ball, better at dunking, better at Free Throws. That is the truth, so when you add up all his overall ratings in a Video Game he is going to be higher than Tim Duncan who's main strengths are somewhat harder to show in a video game.

We know Tim Duncan is a more effective and important player than LeBron James, but in a Video game which can't replicate intangibles, the tangible things that you can see and measure will place LeBron higher than Tim.

[SpizdiStrann]

Hey Brew, what is Tony rated in the game??? :lol

58!!!! :lol :lol
if you play point guard, you should have some playmaking skills. am i right??

[Tobias]

Ah, yer looking at LIVE. That's the problem. Sega 2k6 is more realistic. ;)

[kolko]

http://x1.putfile.com/9/25800593627.jpg

[GrandeDavid]

Duncan was a 99 on NBA Live 04, and also on ESPN 2K5.

[GrandeDavid]

Shawn Marion with the same rating as Duncan!? OMG, what a stupid f-ing game. Also, why the hell is Kirilenko so highly rated? He's a nice player, but come on. Rasheed Wallace an 89??? Jack asses.

[GrandeDavid]

I know Fabricio Oberto is new to the league, but damn. And you gotta love how Parker has dropped from an 81 to a 77. Tony, find a f-ing jump shot and start passing the rock more. ha ha

[T Park]

But it's fitting that he's nowhere on this list.

never misses a chance.

What a fuckin loser.

[IceColdBrewski]

never misses a chance.

What a fuckin loser.

Coming from the guy who will go down as the biggest joke in Spurstalk history. :rolleyes

[ALVAREZ6]

Manu an 88. That's more like it.

[JamStone]

You said it went off recent history. Recent history was him getting punked against the Spurs to the tune that one of the game developers could have probably matched his stats.


I guess they could have if the game only allowed the Phoenix Suns to play the San Antonio Spurs the ENTIRE season. Then again, this year, Shawn Marion will primarily play small forward, so even though Bowen would still defend him, at least Matrix won't have to defend Duncan the majority of the time anymore, and that will help his rebound statistics.

[sickdsm]

Could be worse, you could be the defending MVP and find that EA thinks you were the 4th best player













ON YOUR TEAM!

[DieMrBond]

Shawn Marion would have an advantage over duncan, because he can hit the 3 (in games) where duncan cant. so there, he misses some points from that... thats why garnett has a higher rating, cause he shoots further... well, from what i gather.

And in nba 05, brent barry is unreal - he is my leading scorer. Get him open for 3 and hes MONEY!

And Manu 88! Wow, talk about recognition! In 04, he was a 66ish! Duncan is the same from previous versions from what i can remember, pretty sure he is 91 in 04 and 05.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Nocioni 70?
Oberto 59?
Delfino not even listed?

Time for the Argentinian mafia to start making illegal NBA Live copies. Oh, wait, we've been doing that since the series started, nevermind... :lol

[ALVAREZ6]

Nocioni 70?
Oberto 59?
Delfino not even listed?

Time for the Argentinian mafia to start making illegal NBA Live copies. Oh, wait, we've been doing that since the series started, nevermind... :lol
70 is actually pretty good for NBA Live. Last year Nocioni was like a 54.

[Rubberducky]

how is finley still on the mavericks?
:depressed

[Rubberducky]

doe's anyone know what the bench ratings look like?

[IceColdBrewski]

doe's anyone know what the bench ratings look like?

http://previews.operationsports.com/gamescreenshots.aspx?game=nbalive06xbox&picNumber=236



Don't know if this will help.

[Rubberducky]

Wow, the rosters sure aren't up to date. SAR a net? Finley a Marverick? Sure hope EA decides to click the refresh button before the game comes out at the end of the month.

[spurs=bling]

I could care less how they are rated in a video game, all what matters it that we win a championship :elephant

[romsey31]

J.Johnson too

Live sucks, cant wait for 2k5. LOL Sheed rated higher than JO.

[K-9]

Does anyone know the release date of nba live 06?

[ALVAREZ6]

Does anyone know the release date of nba live 06?
10 days from today.

[romsey31]

10 days from today.

When does 2k6 drop?

[ALVAREZ6]

When does 2k6 drop?
No idea.

[Brutalis]

Thanks for the post.

I will not be buying NBA Live this year now. Thanks!

[ALVAREZ6]

Wow, the rosters sure aren't up to date. SAR a net? Finley a Marverick? Sure hope EA decides to click the refresh button before the game comes out at the end of the month.
They will.

Those rosters are from a while ago. They will be fine when the game comes out, but If any move occurs starting now, it will not be on the game.

You can always update your rosters online though.

[Rubberducky]

When does 2k6 drop?
Both 2k6 and Live come out on 9/26/05.
:elephant :elephant :elephant

[Rubberducky]

Anyone know what Devin Brown's rating is?

[spurs=bling]

Anyone know what Devin Brown's rating is?
could we please drop the Devin subject, its gonna start all over again

[mookie2001]

how the fuck is marion the same as Duncan?, i guess they must be going by history...

[Rubberducky]

could we please drop the Devin subject, its gonna start all over again
just wanted to know. :depressed

[Rubberducky]

how the fuck is marion the same as Duncan?, i guess they must be going by history...
marion still wouldn't be the same as duncan.

[mookie2001]

^i meant games theyve played, like the 05 wcf...

[Rubberducky]

I like how the background is blue. I was starting to get sick of that tan-orange color.

[spurs=bling]

I like how the background is blue. I was starting to get sick of that tan-orange color.
:lol

[MI21]

People still don't understand this?


This is misleading.

Tim Duncan is not going to have a higher rating than LeBron James because LeBron is quicker, more athletic, better ball handler, better passer, better 3 point shooter, better at stealing the ball, better at dunking, better at Free Throws. That is the truth, so when you add up all his overall ratings in a Video Game he is going to be higher than Tim Duncan who's main strengths are somewhat harder to show in a video game.

We know Tim Duncan is a more effective and important player than LeBron James, but in a Video game which can't replicate intangibles, the tangible things that you can see and measure will place LeBron higher than Tim.

[sickdsm]

You mean intangibles such as Clutchness which has been used in basketball games for a while now?

[romsey31]

Coming from the guy who will go down as the biggest joke in Spurstalk history. :rolleyes

What did he do? I'm new here.

[romsey31]

drop? do they throw the games out the back of an airplane or something?


LOL nah man. My bad.

[nkdlunch]

People still don't understand this?

This is misleading.

Tim Duncan is not going to have a higher rating than LeBron James because LeBron is quicker, more athletic, better ball handler, better passer, better 3 point shooter, better at stealing the ball, better at dunking, better at Free Throws. That is the truth, so when you add up all his overall ratings in a Video Game he is going to be higher than Tim Duncan who's main strengths are somewhat harder to show in a video game.

We know Tim Duncan is a more effective and important player than LeBron James, but in a Video game which can't replicate intangibles, the tangible things that you can see and measure will place LeBron higher than Tim.


why can't a video game replicate intangibles??? Trust me, if they wanted Duncan to be on top(where he should be) they could. This ranking is just the opinion of the developers.

They figure the little kids, will prefer to play Lebron KG and Kobe and not Duncan. And they're right.

[Rubberducky]

why can't a video game replicate intangibles??? Trust me, if they wanted Duncan to be on top(where he should be) they could. This ranking is just the opinion of the developers.

They figure the little kids, will prefer to play Lebron KG and Kobe and not Duncan. And they're right.
And the worst part about it is that Lebron KG and Kobe didn't even make the playoffs. :blah

[Mixability]

And the worst part about it is that Lebron KG and Kobe didn't even make the playoffs. :blah

who cares about the playoffs when you're a balla!?!?! :rolleyes

[Rubberducky]

What did he do? I'm new here.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18939
This brings back memories...

[romsey31]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18939
This brings back memories...

So I'm guessing he didnt keep his word.

[Rubberducky]

So I'm guessing he didnt keep his word.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20020
Elcorrecto.

[MI21]

why can't a video game replicate intangibles??? Trust me, if they wanted Duncan to be on top(where he should be) they could. This ranking is just the opinion of the developers.

Tell me how a Video Game can replicate Tim's ability to position himself in good spots, play fantastic team position D, be composed and play under control in pressure situations, step it up when the team needs it as well as replicating his fantastic footwork. Sure they can up his inside scoring rating, his defensive and offensive awareness ratings, but they aren't nearly as important in a Video game as Speed, Athleticism, Ball Handling, Shooting and Dunking.

[IceColdBrewski]

It's a video game. It doesn't factor in who's team got into the playoffs. It's based solely on the individual player's skill sets. That is why Shaq and Duncan rate lower, their FT ratings brings them down. Guys with all around skill sets will always rank higher in these games, thus KG, Kobe, Lebron, McGrady and Marion are ranked high.

[MI21]

Exactly.

[Nikos]

Exactly.

Horrible post. Just STFU already MI21.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Tell me how a Video Game can replicate Tim's ability to position himself in good spots, play fantastic team position D, be composed and play under control in pressure situations, step it up when the team needs it as well as replicating his fantastic footwork. Sure they can up his inside scoring rating, his defensive and offensive awareness ratings, but they aren't nearly as important in a Video game as Speed, Athleticism, Ball Handling, Shooting and Dunking.

Actually all those (and more) things could be programmed. This is an example of some attributes from a soccer game:

http://www.crewealex.dk/grafik/FM_ashton.jpg

And there are even more stats that don't show up in the pic, like injury proness, right foot ability, left foot ability, important matches, adaptability, loyalty, discipline, a different ranking for each position (e.g.: Manu could get a 20/20 as Shooting Guard, a 15/20 as point guard, 5/20 as SF, 1/20 as center). So actually, all those things can be programmed.

[mavsfan1000]

Ever since Antoine Walker got a rating of 91 that is just pure bullshit. I don't care about the ratings on nba live. I just figure that it would be way off.

[MI21]

And there are even more stats that don't show up in the pic, like injury proness, right foot ability, left foot ability, important matches, adaptability, loyalty, discipline, a different ranking for each position (e.g.: Manu could get a 20/20 as Shooting Guard, a 15/20 as point guard, 5/20 as SF, 1/20 as center). So actually, all those things can be programmed.

Is that Championship Manager? Because that is a completely different game based on stats, and other boring stuff. Not a good comparison.

Even then, tell me how when you are actually playing the game like on NBA Live instead of simming it on Championship Manager, that Tim Duncan's ability to pivot well without travelling will make him more useful in a game than Amares Stoudamire and his ability to jump extremely well?

[xcoriate]

don't know i play on PC cause the mods are so easy. You can however open up those ratings files in MS excel or similar program. The file you need to open to view the stats is players.dbf

Then theres catagories and ratings for each player. Hope that helps. I think there are some console based rosters around (check the forums) those same sights somewhere i believe.

[SLOVENIAN 8]

This NBA Live 2006 is the biggest shit that they made it in Live series ever :pctoss :pctoss :pctoss

I play and this is totaly shit. 2005 was bad, but this is 1000x worst :pctoss :pctoss

Look that shit :lol :lol :

http://bb.domaindlx.com/BigBadWolf/1.jpg
http://bb.domaindlx.com/BigBadWolf/2.jpg

[Kobayagi]

Hahaha...nice dunk :lol

Btw...u have it already? For PC or...?

[TDMVPDPOY]

I got the pc version like already mentioned, to tell you truth this is the shittest game, dont buy it, the graphics totally suck imo, and a few bugs too, alley oops are like automatic :(

[Kobayagi]

I thought the game was released today. Must be wrong then...

[Ghost Writer]

NBA Live is the best franchise for video game basketball, period.

EA Sports creates these rankings based on all player skills... that's why Marion would be better than Stoudamire.

Think of it more as fantasy rankings than a player's real value.

The important question is where is the Spurs team ranked?

[TDMVPDPOY]

The player ratings are base on yearly performance, not base on overall performance constantly outthrough the years or motivated through fanizm. To tell you the truth the most useless player on the spurs team is parker, hell he doesnt even have a high shot % from outside and its hard in the game to play the drivin in game layup, hell even EA made rasho look good then duncan, the dude doesnt miss any shots under the ring :(:(, even duncans close shots are automatic when he backs down turn and face up shot :D:D. Not many scoring options on the spurs in the game.

[SLOVENIAN 8]

This 2006 is totaly shit, the game is shit. 2004 was much better than 2005 and 2006

[Brutalis]

NBA Live used to be the best franchise for video game basketball, period.

EA Sports creates these rankings based on all player skills... that's why Marion would be better than Stoudamire.

Think of it more as fantasy rankings than a player's real value.

The important question is where is the Spurs team ranked?

I fixed that for you.

[TDMVPDPOY]

like slovenian8 said nbalive 2004 is the best and i agree,

only thing with live2004 is the power hop anyone can just abuse it, now if only it had the same function as the live2005 stopping the power hop causing the turnover, then live2004 is completely perfect. That allstar weekend BS, i dont even play it or even know how to do the dunk combinations its so hard in live05+06.

Im got both live04+06, and 04 works beautiful on my comp compared to 06, the graphics are shit or either i need i a new card.

[Jdspur20]

Just more proof the better game is 2K6. 5 players better than Tim? Bullshit.

is 2k6 already out?

[2pac]

I almost want to buy the game to put all the fucking players on the right teams.

[MI21]

The game is weird. I don't know what to think right now. Some very good things, some very bad things.

For those crying about Tim's rating, he is pretty much unstoppable in the game, lowish rating or not.

[Mixability]

only thing with live2004 is the power hop anyone can just abuse it, now if only it had the same function as the live2005 stopping the power hop causing the turnover, then live2004 is completely perfect.

i think they fixed the power hop for this years edition. Thank you Jesus! :elephant

As for the All-Star weekend, I wish they would include all the events, not just the Dunk and 3-pt contest.

[davi78239]

so overall, is it better than last year or the same? I'll buy it on friday.

[ALVAREZ6]

so overall, is it better than last year or the same? I'll buy it on friday.
Some aspects are better. In last years game, you could block any fucking shot, now it's a lot harder to get a block. I kind of like this years game.

[davi78239]

Well, bought it yesterday and I must say that I have to get used to it like all the others. Good to see the emotions thrown back into the game, unlike in 05. I just think that's gay how the home crowd boos every time someone from the opposing team shows emotion. Can you choose different button configurations like the previous lives? I have game cube, which probably won't be that popular amongst most of you all, and I hate shooting with the x button. I like shooting with the b button like in the other lives and keep forgetting that on this one, that's the damn hook shot. I hope you can configure the controller.