Black Friday Lapper wanted. [Archive]

Fabbs

11-01-2015, 07:30 PM

If some of you highly skilled highly knowledgeable STs want to help me bag the ultimate bang-for-the-buck laptop in the $500 - 550 range on Black Friday, bring it!
Refurbished? If factory with warranty, ok. Otherwise nah.

If i have to camp out with a sleeping bag and provide photographic updates to ST, i will do so.

Daily user, not a gamer, don't HAVE to have i5 or i7 chip.
Screens gotta be 15' or 17" unless a lesser screen you tell me the rest of the unit is great.

Places I've looked so far just to get a range:
TigerDirect.com
SlickDeals.net

ElNono

11-01-2015, 08:56 PM

http://www.bfads.net/

ElNono

11-01-2015, 09:06 PM

ElNono

11-01-2015, 09:09 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w7FjW3QeiQ

ElNono

11-01-2015, 10:52 PM

He said he's not a gamer... and any decent gaming laptop will run you over $500 easily, unless you're skimping with an AMD cpu...

baseline bum

11-01-2015, 11:29 PM

unless you're skimping with an AMD cpu...

He's asking for a laptop, not to set his crotch on fire tbh.

ElNono

11-01-2015, 11:58 PM

He's asking for a laptop, not to set his crotch on fire tbh.

lol 25min battery life

Reck

11-02-2015, 12:17 AM

If you're willing to shell out 500+ aren't you better off building your own rig?

500 for a laptop is abit much. Specially if all you're going to do is look for gossiping sites.

Wild Cobra

11-02-2015, 02:46 AM

As far as I care, laptops are a joke unless you are going to have at least a 1600 x 900 display. The last two i bought are full HD... 1920 x 1080.

Wild Cobra

11-02-2015, 02:51 AM

Will this one suffice?

http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Quad-Core-Upgrade-Windows/dp/B00XQXZLVG

$389.99

AMD A8 7410 2 GHz Processor
4 GB DDR3L SDRAM; AMD Radeon R5
1 TB HDD Storage; Tray load DVD Drive (Reads and Writes to DVD/CD)
17.3 Inch HD+ (1600x900) LED-lit Truelife Screen
Windows 8.1 Operating System; Silver Chassis

DarrinS

11-02-2015, 08:41 AM

Based on your requirements, you don't have to wait for Black Friday sale.

DarrinS

11-02-2015, 08:44 AM

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K6ZIFCO/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687522&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00SB4ACKU&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=16JT8APH74P0MX9TFMKN

Fabbs

11-03-2015, 10:25 AM

This might be a good deal, tbh... hard to find an i7 Laptop for that, plus it's a free upgrade to Windows 10

http://www.dealsofamerica.com/HP-ENVY-15t-15-6-inch-Laptop-wIntel-Core-i7-4710HQ-8GB-RAM/275189.htm
Ya something like this.
But will Black Friday bring an even better deal?

Fabbs

11-03-2015, 10:26 AM

should just get a tablet with a keyboard addon....
Can you give a for-instance?

Fabbs

11-03-2015, 10:27 AM

If you're willing to shell out 500+ aren't you better off building your own rig?
How portable would it be or not be?

Fabbs

11-03-2015, 10:30 AM

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K6ZIFCO/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687522&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00SB4ACKU&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=16JT8APH74P0MX9TFMKN
My tech support will not support Levono.

Fabbs

11-03-2015, 10:56 AM

500 for a laptop is abit much. Specially if all you're going to do is look for gossiping sites.
But TMZ has so many ads and other stories loading in the background.
You want me to have quick access to them, right?

baseline bum

11-03-2015, 11:43 AM

ElNono

11-03-2015, 12:05 PM

I always see i3 laptops for around $300 or so around Black Friday. What's the fucking point of the i5 and i7 laptops anyways? Most of them are just hyperthreaded dual cores with slight clock bumps over the i3s. It seems like only the really expensive i7 laptops have an actual quadcore hyperthreaded i7.

I'm not sure if the laptop i3s are the same as the desktop counterparts, but if they are, battery power would be a reason. The i3 has no turbo, they're just clocked much higher and run at that speed (using that much juice) all the time. The i5/i7 will shut down cores, and even step down clock rates significantly while not doing intensive work (ie: browsing files on the desktop or even reading webpages). In that scenario at least an i5 makes sense.

baseline bum

11-03-2015, 12:32 PM

I'm not sure if the laptop i3s are the same as the desktop counterparts, but if they are, battery power would be a reason. The i3 has no turbo, they're just clocked much higher and run at that speed (using that much juice) all the time. The i5/i7 will shut down cores, and even step down clock rates significantly while not doing intensive work (ie: browsing files on the desktop or even reading webpages). In that scenario at least an i5 makes sense.

It looks like at least on Broadwell they have frequency scaling down for power saving, though I think you're right about Haswell and before.

http://ark.intel.com/products/84697/Intel-Core-i3-5010U-Processor-3M-Cache-2_10-GHz

DJR210

11-03-2015, 12:46 PM

:lol Fabbs

Even a Black Friday topic is awkward for him smh

ElNono

11-03-2015, 12:55 PM

It looks like at least on Broadwell they have frequency scaling down for power saving, though I think you're right about Haswell and before.

http://ark.intel.com/products/84697/Intel-Core-i3-5010U-Processor-3M-Cache-2_10-GHz

Yeah, that's why I was asking if it was like the Desktop CPUs... although it looks like you only get two options 2.1Ghz or 600Mhz... which kinda sucks, I bet it locks to 600Mhz when it either heats up a lot or battery is really down...

An i5-4200U is also 15W TDP, base at 1.6 Ghz and 4 steps (IIRC) to 2.6 Ghz, which is crazy since it has 2 more cores...

baseline bum

11-03-2015, 09:49 PM

Yeah, that's why I was asking if it was like the Desktop CPUs... although it looks like you only get two options 2.1Ghz or 600Mhz... which kinda sucks, I bet it locks to 600Mhz when it either heats up a lot or battery is really down...

An i5-4200U is also 15W TDP, base at 1.6 Ghz and 4 steps (IIRC) to 2.6 Ghz, which is crazy since it has 2 more cores...

600 MHz ain't bad though. I turned on all Cstates in my BIOS so my Xeon drops to 800 MHz when under light load like web browsing, and then sticks at the max all cores turbo of 3.6 GHz when gaming, compressing a video, doing a calculation in MATLAB, etc. I imagine that a 15W i5-4200U probably has a really low idle multiplier too around 6-8x, I'd be pissed if I bought a laptop that didn't have that kind of low frequency scaling.

ElNono

11-03-2015, 11:59 PM

600 MHz ain't bad though. I turned on all Cstates in my BIOS so my Xeon drops to 800 MHz when under light load like web browsing, and then sticks at the max all cores turbo of 3.6 GHz when gaming, compressing a video, doing a calculation in MATLAB, etc. I imagine that a 15W i5-4200U probably has a really low idle multiplier too around 6-8x, I'd be pissed if I bought a laptop that didn't have that kind of low frequency scaling.

You mean P-States (what used to be known as Intel SpeedStep)... C-States determine when CPUs stop executing instructions entirely and whether they keep their state or it's a full shutdown.

Unfortunately Intel for some reason does not have a public list of P-States for their various CPUs that I could find. So unless you have the CPU and dump the ACPI tables, it's hard to know what they do on the i3. I know for a fact that i5/i7 has at least 4 P-States for the Turbo boost, but also a few more for low frequency (like your Xeon). Obviously, the more steps, the better the system can regulate frequency and save power.

MultiTroll

11-11-2015, 02:42 PM

Thanks for all the info so far.
Please continue to bring it as Black Friday gets closer.
Supposedly a lot of stores are putting their sale info out early. I'll try to post some.

SpursforSix

11-11-2015, 02:56 PM

"Black Friday Lapper wanted"

lol. probably check Backpage. saving money by going black. respect.

MultiTroll

11-11-2015, 03:24 PM

"Black Friday Lapper wanted"

lol. probably check Backpage. saving money by going black. respect.
:lol
I was thinking we should have a thread for most "interesting" Craigslist and backpage ads.
Wow, some of the stuff you run into on what is supposed to be the non freaky pages. :rollin

SpursforSix

11-11-2015, 03:36 PM

:lol
I was thinking we should have a thread for most "interesting" Craigslist and backpage ads.
Wow, some of the stuff you run into on what is supposed to be the non freaky pages. :rollin

there are crazy ass people out there...

Did you ever see this guy's troll stuff? pretty funny....here's my favorite

http://dontevenreply.com/view.php?post=84

DarrinS

11-11-2015, 04:51 PM

there are crazy ass people out there...

Did you ever see this guy's troll stuff? pretty funny....here's my favorite

http://dontevenreply.com/view.php?post=84

:lmao

MultiTroll

11-12-2015, 11:19 AM

This might be a good deal, tbh... hard to find an i7 Laptop for that, plus it's a free upgrade to Windows 10

http://www.dealsofamerica.com/HP-ENVY-15t-15-6-inch-Laptop-wIntel-Core-i7-4710HQ-8GB-RAM/275189.htm
That looks good.
Here is a site that bundles the ads of a bunch of the different brands.
Any of these jump out at you?

ElNono

11-12-2015, 07:30 PM

That looks good.
Here is a site that bundles the ads of a bunch of the different brands.
Any of these jump out at you?

what site?

MultiTroll

11-12-2015, 09:05 PM

what site?
D'oh!
http://www.theblackfriday.com/black-friday-laptop-deals.shtml

ElNono

11-12-2015, 09:24 PM

This looks like the best value, but you probably need to be a Sams Club member:
http://www.theblackfriday.com/HP-15-6-inch-Laptop-wIntel-Core-i7-12GB-RAM/23310.htm

This also looks like a good deal for a laptop that has good reviews on Amazon:
http://www.theblackfriday.com/Toshiba-Satellite-15-6-inch-Laptop-wIntel-Core-i7-Windows-10--S55-/25213.htm

Here's another laptop that appears to be a good value:
http://www.theblackfriday.com/Toshiba-15-6-inch-Laptop-wIntel-Core-i7-8GB-RAM/22995.htm

The thing with this last one is that it appears to be a model specifically for Black Friday, which kinda sucks because you can't find reviews for it.
Toshiba makes quality laptops, but it's possible they cut a few corners (ie: backlit keyboard) to make it cheaper. You should still check it out at your local Staples if they have some, sounds like a good deal with the base specs.

Most 15" i7 laptops go for $650+... so these are fairly good deals, IMO

ElNono

11-13-2015, 09:33 PM

Unrelated to laptops, but damn, might be time to snag one of this?

Best Buy: Samsung 60-inch 2160p LED Smart 4K Ultra HDTV for $799.99
http://www.theblackfriday.com/Samsung-60-inch-2160p-LED-Smart-4K-Ultra-HDTV/24020.htm

Wild Cobra

11-14-2015, 03:33 PM

baseline bum

11-14-2015, 03:48 PM

ElNono

11-14-2015, 05:15 PM

Seems like a waste when there is almost no 4k content available.

Netflix and YouTube has some, plus content will keep on coming out if the TVs keep coming down in price like this... I've seen even GTA V running on a 960 in 4k doing better FPS than the XBox One or PS4, tbh...

Plus at this price, it's a better value than buying a 60in 1080p TV...

baseline bum

11-14-2015, 05:30 PM

Netflix and YouTube has some, plus content will keep on coming out if the TVs keep coming down in price like this... I've seen even GTA V running on a 960 in 4k doing better FPS than the XBox One or PS4, tbh...

Plus at this price, it's a better value than buying a 60in 1080p TV...

Still not worth it until RedTube has 4k content tbh

ElNono

11-14-2015, 05:31 PM

Still not worth it until RedTube has 4k content tbh

tbh

MultiTroll

11-16-2015, 07:54 PM

ElNono

11-16-2015, 09:41 PM

I'm listening.
Q. Is this HP 17" i5, given it's only $399.....
http://www.theblackfriday.com/HP-Pavilion-17-3-inch-Laptop-w-Intel-Core-i5-4GB-RAM/25125.htm
Is i5 able to do about everything an i7 would do for me given I am not a gamer?

In general, yes. That looks like a good deal, but you might need to upgrade the RAM to 8GB, depending on what you plan to use the laptop for.

TDMVPDPOY

11-19-2015, 09:07 PM

hey cuckolds...

1tb ssd for around 220USD ...shit is getting cheaper

MultiTroll

11-19-2015, 10:57 PM

hey huge cocks...

1tb ssd for around 220USD ...shit is getting cheaper
English please.
Tablet?
ssd?

MultiTroll

11-19-2015, 11:44 PM

11. Cyber Monday Sales Are Full of Leftovers From Black FridayBlack Friday may get all the attention, but last year Cyber Monday managed to trump Black Friday in terms of overall Editors' Choice deals (our designation for the best sales of the year, with prices we've rarely seen before). So Cyber Monday isn't a slouch, and it certainly doesn't just recirculate Black Friday castoffs. Cyber Monday is no longer a holiday you can afford to skip!

MultiTroll

11-21-2015, 10:48 AM

ssd hdd....
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2404258,00.asp

Fabbs

11-25-2015, 10:45 PM

In general, yes. That looks like a good deal, but you might need to upgrade the RAM to 8GB, depending on what you plan to use the laptop for.
Nono https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg0VK_jjiRw

It's come down to these three:
1. *Sams Club $499
HP 15.6-inch Laptop w/Intel Core i7, 12GB RAM
http://www.samsclub.com/sams/hp-15-6-notebook-intel-core-i7/prod19381725.ip?&pid=_Aff_LS&siteID=OfrhIMk.DmY-iXUEq.44GN3PpnRQ2cwLig
*Best Buy sales rep claims Sams Club has been known to take lesser HP models, strip them/put bigger RAM and core in and then repackage them as such. Says mixing and matching board parts can cause problems later. He continues that Best Buy only gets them straight from HP as is.

2. HP.com $429
HP Pavilion 15t Laptop
Windows 10
6th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6200U Dual CoreProcessor + Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
6GB DDR3L - 2 DIMM
15.6"

3. Best Buy $399
HP - Pavilion 17.3" Laptop - Intel Core i5 - 4GB Memory - 1TB Hard Drive - $399
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-pavilion-17-3-laptop-intel-core-i5-4gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-silver/4606403.p?id=1219776509546&skuId=4606403

Fabbs

11-25-2015, 10:50 PM

and

4. Best Buy $429 on Black Fri
15.6 6GB i5

http://www.theblackfriday.com/HP-Pavilion-15T-15-6-inch-Laptop-w-Intel-Core-i5-6GB-HD--/29222.htm

Fabbs

11-25-2015, 11:02 PM

sorry Nono i am multitasking up the arse.
That above was the HP site. Not them, they make you jump thru so many damn hoops to get an answer.

I meant the Best Buy
HP ENVY 15.6-inch Touch-Screen Laptop w/ Intel Core i5, 6GB RAM for $479.99 as part of its BestBuy Black Friday Sale 2015.

ElNono

11-25-2015, 11:55 PM

What the best buy guy told you about mismatched boards is bullshit, BUT you need to be aware that a lot of these black friday electronics are indeed special products made for the occasion. They're cut down versions of other, more expensive products. For example, the laptops might not have illuminated keyboards, or might have cheaper/slower HDDs, cheaper plastic case, etc. This isn't done by Sam's Club, it's done by the companies that make these products based on orders made by the retailers, that want a product at a certain price-point. It's normally easy to tell too, because the model numbers are basically unknown, which means the model was specifically made for black friday. That doesn't mean they're bad products. I bought my current Samsung TV on Black Friday, and while it only has 2 HDMI inputs and no Wifi, it's a full blown nice SMART HDTV, with the nice Samsung screen, etc. Manufacturers will honor the warranty on them (it's made by them after all).

The Sam's Club is the best deal, IMO. i7 laptops are just not available that cheap, generally speaking, especially not with 12GB of RAM.

I would rank the 17" best buy one 2nd, but you're going to need to add at least another 4GB of RAM to that.

The rest I don't think they're that much of a great value, tbh...

MultiTroll

11-26-2015, 02:32 PM

What the best buy guy told you about mismatched boards is bullshit,
The Sam's Club is the best deal, IMO. i7 laptops are just not available that cheap, generally speaking, especially not with 12GB of RAM.

I would rank the 17" best buy one 2nd, but you're going to need to add at least another 4GB of RAM to that.

The rest I don't think they're that much of a great value, tbh...
Thanks for the heads up on BullShit Best Buy Boy.

Sams Clubs sold out so, i called HP.com and asked them to match. "C'mon HP, you're going to let Sams Club outdo your best deal?"
Here is what she countered with.
"The unit you saw at Sams Club has a 4th gen i7 core, that is older. I can offer you an i5 core 6th gen 6200U (newer, she claims newest) with 8GB for $439." <she initially offered 4GB, told her 8GB was my minimum.

Since i was unable to reach you and they have a 30 days no questions asked return policy, i took it.
Whaddaya think?

ElNono

11-26-2015, 04:58 PM

Thanks for the heads up on BullShit Best Buy Boy.

Sams Clubs sold out so, i called HP.com and asked them to match. "C'mon HP, you're going to let Sams Club outdo your best deal?"
Here is what she countered with.
"The unit you saw at Sams Club has a 4th gen i7 core, that is older. I can offer you an i5 core 6th gen 6200U (newer, she claims newest) with 8GB for $439." <she initially offered 4GB, told her 8GB was my minimum.

Since i was unable to reach you and they have a 30 days no questions asked return policy, i took it.
Whaddaya think?

Sounds good. You probably saved some money.

That 6200U is kinda weird, it's an i5, but with 2 cores and hyperthreading. It will show as 4 processors under windows, but for what you want to do, it's going to run just fine. The nifty thing is that it's an ULV (Ultra low voltage) CPU, so your battery life should be above average, always a plus on a laptop.

TDMVPDPOY

12-01-2015, 09:44 PM

dont u hate it when they have sales which x>50% discount...the staffs get first dip at the cookie jar then resells them on ebay or whatever bullshit site

Fabbs

02-17-2016, 08:42 PM

Sounds good. You probably saved some money.

That 6200U is kinda weird, it's an i5, but with 2 cores and hyperthreading. It will show as 4 processors under windows, but for what you want to do, it's going to run just fine. The nifty thing is that it's an ULV (Ultra low voltage) CPU, so your battery life should be above average, always a plus on a laptop.
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