2016 Copa America Centenario

[DAF86]

Ecuador 4 - Haití 0

They secured the second place and will face USA. Peru and Brazil to fight for the 1st place now. Brazil has the advantage of the tie. Perú needs to win.

[DAF86]

That niga Mina from Ecuador looks like a got damn cartel liutenant :lol

Just realized you will finally get to see your berracos live son. Do you prefer Brazil or Perú?

[Canyonero]

O Brasil samba que dá
Bamboleio que faz gingar
O Brasil do meu amor
Terra de nosso senhor
Brasil pra mim
Pra mim, pra mim



Hope Peru wins tbh

[DAF86]

Brazilrefs per par.

[pgardn]

So the strategy is to immediately fall once a team gets the ball in the opposition's penalty area.
Message to both teams: The ref ain't buying it, try and stay on your feet.

[DAF86]

So the strategy is to immediately fall once a team gets the ball in the opposition's penalty area.
Message to both teams: The ref ain't buying it, try and stay on your feet.

The Peru one was a clear foul son. Are you a troll or something? Is like you need to comment the complete opposite of what happens. Everytime.

[DAF86]

What is the ref waiting for? Who is he listening to? He can not wait for somebody to watch it on TV.

[DAF86]

What is he doing? Disgraceful.

[IronMaxipad]

lol brazil

[DAF86]

Clear handball. Justice for the penalty that wasn't given on the first half.

[IronMaxipad]

inb4 ref gifts them a penalty tho

[DAF86]

Year 2016. I don't know why technology isn't used in football yet.

[pgardn]

The Peru one was a clear foul son. Are you a troll or something? Is like you need to comment the complete opposite of what happens. Everytime.

Get out of town.

Its a fall fest. It's ridiculous.

As was the handball.
Peru apologist. Stop with your shit.

[DAF86]

Brazil should have lost to Ecuador if not for the refs, tbh.

[pgardn]

Clear handball. Justice for the penalty that wasn't given on the first half.

You are an idiot.
completely and utterly...

[pgardn]

Brazil should have lost to Ecuador if not for the refs, tbh.

Oh the shoulda woulda coulda guy...

[DAF86]

Get out of town.

Its a fall fest. It's ridiculous.

As was the handball.
Peru apologist. Stop with your shit.


You are an idiot.
completely and utterly...


Oh the shoulda woulda coulda guy...

Dude, you trully are a retard. Congrats.

[pgardn]

Dude, you trully are a retard. Congrats.



I had no idea the soccer forum allowed celery to post.

You are an idiot, seriously...

[IronMaxipad]

hand of inca god

[apalisoc_9]

Man...Brazil is really a mediocre team nowadys. They barely have tier one talent and tier 2. Neymar..then everyone else is like an Ecuador level player.

Team needs to realize they're not as offensively gifted as the previous generations. Need to imply a more defensive approach with two DMFs and rely on their wings and counter to get the job done.

[hater]

Just realized you will finally get to see your berracos live son. Do you prefer Brazil or Perú?

:tu

Yes will be attending with a group of cartel members. I actually prefered Brazil for obvious reasons :wow

Can u imagine attending a Brazil vs colombia game???

Oh well at least there will be Colombian chicks representing....

I actually think colombia vs Peru will be better game. Brazil is finished

[DAF86]

Now that is official.

:lmao Brazil
:lmao group stage Copa América elimination
:lmao Dunga
:lmao giving Dunga a second chance
:lmao he already made the list for the olympics
:lmao can't fire him now
:lmao winning 7-1
:lmao still getting eliminated

[playblair]

usa will win copa which leads to a soccer boom............. the fringe basketball/football players will lean towards soccer & bring along with them speed/athleticism............usa will become a juggernaut...........hop on the bandwagon...............

[pgardn]

usa will win copa which leads to a soccer boom............. the fringe basketball/football players will lean towards soccer & bring along with them speed/athleticism............usa will be a juggernaut...........hop on the bandwagon...............

Seems like we have heard this before...

We love OUR football, Bball, baseball, hockey...

Gonna be an eternity.

[TheGreatYacht]

Imagine thinking the US of Gay will even beat Equador :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Uruguay and Brazil are out.

If Argentina doesn't win this.... :lol

[DAF86]

Uruguay and Brazil are out.

If Argentina doesn't win this.... :lol

Brazil and Uruguay weren't contenders, tbh.

[TheGreatYacht]

Brazil and Uruguay weren't contenders, tbh.
Who are contenders IYO tbh

[spursistan]

How the mighty have fallen :lol

Brazil NT (since 2007) is mired bigger crisis than any other down periods undergone by the major soccer powerhouse recently (Germany/ITA/Argentina)...

if they don't do a root and branch review of the whole field and show promise by the next Copa they host in 2019, they might actually go the way of Urguguay in the second half of last century..

[TheGreatYacht]

Holy shit I can't even imagine the scenes when Brazil inevitably loses in the Olympics with Neymar and at home :lmao

You know it's been bad when I don't remember Mexico even struggling against Brazil, I'm 21 and my first game I attended was a win over Brazil at the Azteca (don't remember what year, I was little)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ze8AgkB64U&feature=share

[spursistan]

Holy shit I can't even imagine the scenes when Brazil inevitably loses in the Olympics with Neymar and at home :lmao
and they host the Copa in 2019...what a fuckin terrible timing to bid for all these events..going 0-3 (WC/OG/Copa) at home :lmao

[DAF86]

Who are contenders IYO tbh

Argentina, Mexico, Colombia and Chile.

[DAF86]

How the mighty have fallen :lol

Brazil NT (since 2007) is mired bigger crisis than any other down periods undergone by the major soccer powerhouse recently (Germany/ITA/Argentina)...

if they don't do a root and branch review of the whole field and show promise by the next Copa they host in 2019, they might actually go the way of Urguguay in the second half of last century..

Forget about 2019. If they continue like this they won't get to 2018.

[TheGreatYacht]

and they host the Copa in 2019...what a fuckin terrible timing to bid for all these events..going 0-3 (WC/OG/Copa) at home :lmao
:lol Brasil de hoje

Google translate that ( Portuguese > English)

[TheGreatYacht]

Argentina, Mexico, Colombia and Chile.
So you're saying the American media is selling their own shit? :lmao

[playblair]

Argentina, Mexico, Colombia and Chile.

leaving out usa is pure euro/conmebol snobbishness................ usa is legit.............usa = group a winners finished atop colombia............john brooks can contain messi john brooks is a world class cb..............usa can beat el tri any given game..............

[TheGreatYacht]

john brooks
Who?

[DAF86]

So you're saying the American media is selling their own shit? :lmao


leaving out usa is pure euro/conmebol snobbishness................ usa is legit.............usa = group a winners finished atop colombia............john brooks can contain messi john brooks is a world class cb..............usa can beat el tri any given game..............

I have US at 5th right now, but it will take a lot going their way to win it all, imho.

I would certainly mantain an appropriate level of fear in a potential semi against the US.

[TheGreatYacht]

All seriousness though, our soccer forum is growing :tu

[lefty]

All seriousness though, our soccer forum is growing :tu

:lol beisbol forum

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Messi will finally end Argentina's trophy drought :)

[Amuseddaysleeper]

The US has potential but it's just hard to look at that squad and take them too seriously. Maybe in a couple years, but right now I'd love a matchup with the States in the Semi-Finals

[TDMVPDPOY]

The US has potential but it's just hard to look at that squad and take them too seriously. Maybe in a couple years, but right now I'd love a matchup with the States in the Semi-Finals

US has the mentality of never die attitude every shit they participate in, even though they know they are nowhere near the talent and skillset of superior teams... as long they fight every possession with heart never give up, they are always in a chance to come out with a favorable outcome...


remember when US was ranked no.2 on some bs rankings b4 the worldcup, then was expose? roflmao .... padding wins against concaf national teams still stuck in the bronze age

[ElNono]

Brazil wasn't complaining about this shit, tbh...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfBC0gHbwIc

[DAF86]

How can you not see that shit? :lmao

[dfens]

Get out of town.

Its a fall fest. It's ridiculous.

As was the handball.
Peru apologist. Stop with your shit.


You are an idiot.
completely and utterly...


Oh the shoulda woulda coulda guy...


I had no idea the soccer forum allowed celery to post.

You are an idiot, seriously...

this wanker :lmao:lmao son you are such dumbass , you remind me of that KBP faggot :lol racists :lol

[dfens]

leaving out usa is pure euro/conmebol snobbishness................ usa is legit.............usa = group a winners finished atop colombia............john brooks can contain messi john brooks is a world class cb..............usa can beat el tri any given game..............

The US has potential but it's just hard to look at that squad and take them too seriously. Maybe in a couple years, but right now I'd love a matchup with the States in the Semi-Finals
sons :lmao usa should be happy to have gotten out of their group tbh. even if they might win something greece-style that doesn't mean any progress in the long run. They are still a technically deficient, tactically decent, talent starved squad. Ukraine/Croatia/Switzerland would beat the living shit out of the usa tbh, as did colombia, so even these 2nd tier squads are WAY in front. Usa is on the ireland/romania/albania/russia/peru/greece level tbh. Imo usa has already maxed out this style of play by being very hard competitors, but from a point forward fighting spirit isn't enough. So until we get to see some real players they have no potential.


Messi will finally end Argentina's trophy drought :)
son, let's hope they don't choke, unfortunately they do have a history.


How can you not see that shit? :lmao
uruguay ref :lol

[dfens]

:lol brazil
:lol bra7il
:lol monkey ball
:lol dunga as coach
:lol no talent
:lol can't get out of the group with haiti

[dunkman]

Argentina has good chances of winning this one, but who knows.

[urunobili]

As long as a CONMEBOL team rings...
You're welcome BTW the ref was Urutrash

[elemento]

Losing against Peru with an "enchilada hand" :lmao
Dunga (Jorginho was the real coach) :lmao
FrangAlisson over Diego Alves because he is gaucho :lmao
3 players from the Chinese league in the lineup :lmao
CBF trying to help Santos to sell Lucas Shitlima to Europe :lmao

I know you fellows got used to watch Brazil with several superstars and it's sad to watch this shit, but I think Brazil with a better coach could put a better product on the field, even with this non-stellar generation. Get Thiago Silva, Marcelo, L.Gustavo, Douglas Costa and Neymar back and Brazil can get back to put a fight.
Can't rely on superstar power anymore, need a better coach, a better football system and get rid of that China trash

Sad to see Maestro Ganso riding on the bench watching that crap. I'm just glad he got back to Sao Paulo tbh.

[Canyonero]

Man I feel bad for Brazil


































































:lmao

[Canyonero]

A well known redhead journalist (famous for being jinx) said this is the easiest cup for Argentina :pctoss

[Canyonero]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkzJfEiWYAA2qYA.jpg:large


:lol:lol:lol

[Brazil]

:lmao Brasil
:lmao Dunga

[lefty]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkzJfEiWYAA2qYA.jpg:large


:lol:lol:lol

:lmao

[DAF86]

Losing against Peru with an "enchilada hand" :lmao
Dunga (Jorginho was the real coach) :lmao
FrangAlisson over Diego Alves because he is gaucho :lmao
3 players from the Chinese league in the lineup :lmao
CBF trying to help Santos to sell Lucas Shitlima to Europe :lmao

I know you fellows got used to watch Brazil with several superstars and it's sad to watch this shit, but I think Brazil with a better coach could put a better product on the field, even with this non-stellar generation. Get Thiago Silva, Marcelo, L.Gustavo, Douglas Costa and Neymar back and Brazil can get back to put a fight.
Can't rely on superstar power anymore, need a better coach, a better football system and get rid of that China trash

Sad to see Maestro Ganso riding on the bench watching that crap. I'm just glad he got back to Sao Paulo tbh.

Son, I agree. You still have a decent amount of players to put something respectable on the field:


Diego Alves

Alves T.Silva Miranda Marcelo

Fernandinho Casemiro

Willian Coutinho Douglas Costa

Neymar

If Diego Costa would have remained Brazilian you would have had a pretty balanced starting 11 all around.

[DAF86]

https://scontent.fgig1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/q83/s480x480/13413605_10154282738858734_7904684750241794110_n.j pg?oh=aef01cc8cd546d42e3120ede499c8c69&oe=57C515CA

[Relevancy]

Brazil didn't have a superstar in this team, now we know for sure that its Neymar and the rest.. Not really surprised they got fucked over.If Argentina doesn't win this tournament it will be a major choke job tbh

[DAF86]

Why does everyone keep acting like Brazil getting eliminated improved Argentina's chances, tbh? :lol

Brazil losing doesn't affect Argentina's chances one bit. In fact, I would have given my left nut to face them on the final over teams like Mexico, Chile or Colombia, tbh. :lol

[elemento]

Son, I agree. You still have a decent amount of players to put something respectable on the field:


Diego Alves

Alves T.Silva Miranda Marcelo

Fernandinho Casemiro

Willian Coutinho Douglas Costa

Neymar

If Diego Costa would have remained Brazilian you would have had a pretty balanced starting 11 all around.

Your lineup looks good son. i'd change Fernandinho for L.Gustavo (I think he is a better defender), but other than that, it's pretty much how a see the best BR team atm.

Not sure why you love so much that shit ass Diego Bosta. Sure, he is better than the garbage 9s we have now, but he is trash. Brazil lost in the 2010 WC because a crazy ass player like him (Felipe Melo). I would rather play Neymar as a 9 than having a crazy ass moron like Costa in the NT. He ain't that good, not worth a spot. Spain took old shit bag Aduriz to the Eurocup instead of him . If you remember well, Brazil has left way better players off the NT squad because of their behavior (Edmundo and Djalminha for example).

[DAF86]

Your lineup looks good son. i'd change Fernandinho for L.Gustavo (I think he is a better defender), but other than that, it's pretty much how a see the best BR team atm.

Not sure why you love so much that shit ass Diego Bosta. Sure, he is better than the garbage 9s we have now, but he is trash. Brazil lost in the 2010 WC because a crazy ass player like him (Felipe Melo). I would rather play Neymar as a 9 than having a crazy ass moron like Costa in the NT. He ain't that good, not worth a spot. Spain took old shit bag Aduriz to the Eurocup instead of him . If you remember well, Brazil has left way better players off the NT squad because of their behavior (Edmundo and Djalminha for example).

You answered your own question, tbh. :lol

Plus, I like playing with two forwards instead of just one.

[TheGreatYacht]

Osorio is fucking around again :lmao

Every player he called up has started now after today... 3rd goalie in 3 games lmao

Hes letting everyone play. Fuck.

Looks like you're next Argentina

[IronMaxipad]

Osorio is fucking around again :lmao

Every player he called up has started now after today... 3rd goalie in 3 games lmao

Hes letting everyone play. Fuck.

Looks like you're next Argentina

colombian nigga is trippin :lol

defense should at least be solid this time.. don't understand why 3rd different goalie tho.. that lineup should get the job done tho unless im underestimating venezuela tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

colombian nigga is trippin :lol

defense should at least be solid this time.. don't understand why 3rd different goalie tho.. that lineup should get the job done tho unless im underestimating venezuela tbh
We should be fine, I love the defense too. Replace Torres Nilo with Layun and we're set :tu

Corona has been terrible since getting injured, hope he doesn't choke like Moises Muñoz did against Argentina

Chuky starting finally :tu

[Canyonero]

Maybe he wants early holidays tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

Peralta is fucking terrible :lol

Scores important goals somehow tho

[Canyonero]

:lmao:lmao:lmao Mexico

[TheGreatYacht]

Osorio is a fucking idiot :lmao

2 in the wall from a 40 meter set piece.... Had like 4 defenders back there so he can counter :lmao

Gets scored on

[Relevancy]

Why does osorio like playing so much with the lineups

[TheGreatYacht]

Why does osorio like playing so much with the lineups
He's Colombian and has guaranteed money no matter what he does. Trying to win one for the narcos at home

[Canyonero]

Btw, those Mexican fans throwing water/beer on the Venezuelan players...:nope:nope stay classy

[TheGreatYacht]

WHY IS THERE A DIRTY CUBAN REFFING THE GAME

[hater]

:lmao MEXICACAS :lmao

[Relevancy]

He's Colombian and has guaranteed money no matter what he does. Trying to win one for the narcos at homehe just wants to look like a tactical genius or some shit

[Canyonero]

TheGreatYacht just saw today Argentina beat Mexico in handball (fatball) 42-17. A reminder of what's awaiting.

[hater]

:lol I wouldn't be surprised if Mexico loses this and out next round :lol

:lol choking losers. And.playing at home :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Fucking Suramierdas wasting time

[TheGreatYacht]

TheGreatYacht (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43719) just saw today Argentina beat Mexico in handball (fatball) 42-17. A reminder of what's awaiting.
What's that? :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

he just wants to look like a tactical genius or some shit
CIA Cocavich tbh

[FkLA]

Chichadios will come in and save the day. Osorio really needs to cut his gay shit out though tbh.

[IronMaxipad]

All part of the plan. Tanking for argentina tbh :bobo

[TheGreatYacht]

Chichadios will come in and save the day. Osorio really needs to cut his gay shit out though tbh.
Knowing Osorio, he will probably come in the 87th minute tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

All part of the plan. Tanking for argentina tbh :bobo
Yup :bobo

At least against them, we won't have to worry about getting raped on set pieces

[spursistan]

this "CIA Poop" Colombian coach is going to be Mexico downfall :lmao..just watch..

[Canyonero]

742522636173856768

Is this guy supposed to be a journalist?

[hater]

:lmao my Venezuelan niggas going berracos and putting mexifaggots in the morgue :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Wtf is this favela indian ass coach doing? :lol

[Canyonero]

30 minutes. Tic tac tic tac...

[hater]

:lmao I think Haiti playd a better 3rd game than Mexico :lol

On to face Argentina :lol

[Canyonero]

PEÑARANDAAAAAAAAA

[hater]

Is that chespirito coming into the game? :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Is that chespirito coming into the game? :lol
I laughed :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

This Inca ass coach gives Chichadios 23 minutes to rape these suramierdas

[hater]

:lol chespirito :lol

[Canyonero]

:lmao:lmao:lmao so close

[hater]

:lmao chespirito trying to win an Emmy for ztV Drama :lol

[Relevancy]

Fck that would have been a golazo by corona

[TheGreatYacht]

These cocksuckers sacrificed some lambs to the Inca gods, that's it.

Fuck this shit

[Canyonero]

Damn....only 10 minutes. Good effort by Venezuela though.

[Relevancy]

Tecatito:wow

[spursistan]

Damn what a goal :wow

[TheGreatYacht]

Corona-Hernández-Lozano

Wtf did I say?!?!

[Canyonero]

FUCKKKKKKKKKK

[spursistan]

would have been goal of the year...

[Canyonero]

:lol:lol:lol that wall jumper throwing the ball away

[IronMaxipad]

dat nigga tecatito :lol

[pgardn]

Damn what a goal :wow

Walked through 6 defenders...

Wow.

Defense
Defense
Defense

These are excellent games for viewers though.

[Relevancy]

We will advance to the finals tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

Midgetina lives to fight another day, tbh.

[FkLA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tf7GXL7U0k

:worthy: :worthy:

[urunobili]

México has a shot to a final appearance TBH...

[pgardn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tf7GXL7U0k

:worthy: :worthy:

Great effort from #6 on Venezuela...

zGreat run but that was just shitty defense.

[DAF86]

Yup :bobo

At least against them, we won't have to worry about getting raped on set pieces

Dude, you haven't been paying attention if you think Argentina isn't strong on set pieces.

[Canyonero]

México has a shot to a final appearance TBH...

With Concarefs anything is possible. We could even have a Midgetco - USGay final.

[FkLA]

Great effort from #6 on Venezuela...

zGreat run but that was just shitty defense.

It's called world class pace and dribbling...

[Canyonero]

I'd like to see him dribble like that against Mascherano-Otamendi-Funes Mori

[velik_m]

Just came here to post: Lol Brasil, lol Uruguay :lol

[FkLA]

I'd like to see him dribble like that against Mascherano-Otamendi-Funes Mori

I'd like to see Argentina get past Venezuela and the US of Gay tbh.

[Canyonero]

I'd like to see Argentina get past Venezuela and the US of Gay tbh.

There should be no problem with fair referees (not the ones of the last Copa Robo tbh)

[dfens]

I'd like to see Argentina get past Venezuela and the US of Gay tbh.

if messi loses to the fucking usa :lol

[elemento]

Dunga is gone after the "fiasco" :lol

Welcome TiteGOD !

[Canyonero]

Dunga is gone after the "fiasco" :lol

Welcome TiteGOD !

Who?

[elemento]

Who?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OUvvS9E82ZY/hqdefault.jpg

[Canyonero]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OUvvS9E82ZY/hqdefault.jpg

Ok, I like him then :bobo

[elemento]

Ok, I like him then :bobo

I knew you would :toast

[spursistan]

not only Dunga was out of his depth, but he was such an annoying sourpuss without the coaching silverware to back it up..zero leadership skills on sidelines for somebody who was a captain of WC-winning team...

it won't solve Brazilian soccer deep-rooted problems, but it is the right move..

[urunobili]

Irmao Brasileiros tem que voltar ao Futebol de ataque

[elemento]

Irmao Brasileiros tem que voltar ao Futebol de ataque

Faz falta um bom centro-avante irmão.

Send us Luizito and maybe we're back on track. :toast

[Amuseddaysleeper]

If Argentina fails to win this Copa with how everything is perfectly lined up for him it would be the biggest blemish of his career to date. I know a lot of people "blame" him for not carrying ARG to a world cup but Germany were always the heavy favorites going into that match and they had a top 3 player for the team injured.

But even with Di Maria missing out on this tourney it seems, Argentina should be able to walk it....I hope.

[Canyonero]

If Argentina fails to win this Copa with how everything is perfectly lined up for him it would be the biggest blemish of his career to date. I know a lot of people "blame" him for not carrying ARG to a world cup but Germany were always the heavy favorites going into that match and they had a top 3 player for the team injured.

But even with Di Maria missing out on this tourney it seems, Argentina should be able to walk it....I hope.

Like communism, in theory it should work. But this team is so fucked up they might even lose to Mexico.

[Canyonero]

:lol:lol weones

[TheGreatYacht]

Looks like Chile is going on vacation soon ;)

[TheGreatYacht]

A path of Chile-Colombia-Argentina :lol

If we win this ffs

[FkLA]

A path of Chile-Colombia-Argentina :lol

If we win this ffs

We got this tbh.

[DAF86]

Damn, Barca coaches must be concerned with Bravo's perfomance in this tournament.

[DAF86]

Another great game and counting...

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Damn, Barca coaches must be concerned with Bravo's perfomance in this tournament.

MatS will be first choice keeper next season. Bravo has been having an absolute howler this tournament for sure.

[DAF86]

What a complete team goal :wow

[Canyonero]

We got this tbh.

Concaref incoming?

[lefty]

Dunga is gonzo

[FkLA]

Chichadios incoming?

yes

[ElNono]

pecho frio with the lucky bounce... we'll take it

[ElNono]

Pocho too... thank Messi it's Bolivia

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Holy deflection city, Batman.

[pgardn]

It's called world class pace and dribbling...

Watch your video and watch #6

Jesus H. Christ....

Just wtf was that? Please explain.

[ElNono]

:lmao Bolivia

[TheGreatYacht]

Mexico vs Chile
Saturday
in California (MEX home crowd)

[ElNono]

Mexico vs Chile
Saturday
in California (MEX home crowd)

Watch out with Chile...

[TheGreatYacht]

Watch out with Chile...
What's your prediction

[ElNono]

What's your prediction

I think Mejico can win it, playing at home and all, but Chile can be a tricky team, and they have guys like Sanchez and Vargas which are really talented...

On the other hand, Bravo has been terrible for them. Today he gifted two goals to Panama... hard to tell, tbh...

[TheGreatYacht]

I think Mejico can win it, playing at home and all, but Chile can be a tricky team, and they have guys like Sanchez and Vargas which are really talented...

On the other hand, Bravo has been terrible for them. Today he gifted two goals to Panama... hard to tell, tbh...
I think Osorio will go try hard against Chile, and against Colombia he'll put Rafa Marquez as striker with Ochoa and Peralta on the wings... One in the back also

[DAF86]

Bolivian coach man marking Messi with the game 0-3. :lmao

[FkLA]

I think Osorio will go try hard against Chile, and against Colombia he'll put Rafa Marquez as striker with Ochoa and Peralta on the wings... One in the back also

:lmao :lmao











it wouldn't shock me though :depressed

[TheGreatYacht]

:lmao :lmao











it wouldn't shock me though :depressed
It will happen, YOU WILL SEE

[DAF86]

:sleep

Most boring half of the tournament. Argentina was clearly coasting but Bolivia parking the bus was an unnecessary bitch move, imho.

[DAF86]

Fucking anti-futbol Bolivian coach. His whole purpose was to not let Messi play. With the game meaning nothing of course Messi wasn't going to do much to get open. If I was a fan that paid the ticket I would be raging mad. :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Lol this nigga daf asking for teams to take it easy on his boy so he can score.

"He didnt let messi score" :cry

"Tgey defended messi..not cool" :cry

[dfens]

this competition has such poor defenses fucking icyland would be a contender .
I can't believe some of the marking mistakes, it's like midfielders never track down, space is always empty ... its like watching amateur football played with talented players tbh :lmao

I hope mexico meets argentina in the final :lol

[Canyonero]

On the other hand, Bravo has been terrible for them. Today he gifted two goals to Panama... hard to tell, tbh...

Bravo with the mind tricks. Giving México false hope.

[Canyonero]

http://especiales.gol.caracoltv.com/sites/default/files/styles/despliegue_large_1024x640/public/portadalavalleperucolombiap.jpg?itok=NTJOJJfH

:lol:lol:lol

[lefty]

:lmao at James' face tbh

[lefty]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkzSWa_UkAAZflf.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkzbJKRWsAA8BQA.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkzTSxAXEAEbcsG.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkzRgjMXAAArdPI.jpg

[TheGreatYacht]

http://especiales.gol.caracoltv.com/sites/default/files/styles/despliegue_large_1024x640/public/portadalavalleperucolombiap.jpg?itok=NTJOJJfH

:lol:lol:lol
:lmao

[elemento]

I like MJ's face on Marcelo's afro :lol

[hater]

this competition has such poor defenses fucking icyland would be a contender .
I can't believe some of the marking mistakes, it's like midfielders never track down, space is always empty ... its like watching amateur football played with talented players tbh :lmao

I hope mexico meets argentina in the final :lol

Has anything worth a shit happens in Euroshit cup tbh?

Or is your best entertainment still watching you mongoloid europans kick each others face off in the stands?? :lmao

[DAF86]

this competition has such poor defenses fucking icyland would be a contender .
I can't believe some of the marking mistakes, it's like midfielders never track down, space is always empty ... its like watching amateur football played with talented players tbh :lmao

I hope mexico meets argentina in the final :lol

And then teams like Chile, Uruguay and Costa Rica go on and beat the living shit of Spain, Italy and England. :lol

[DAF86]

Lol this nigga daf asking for teams to take it easy on his boy so he can score.

"He didnt let messi score" :cry

"Tgey defended messi..not cool" :cry

C'mon son, I have no problem with parking the bus if you have something to play for, or the game is tied. But going full catenaccio when you are already out of the tournament and down 0-3 is mediocrity at its finest. :lol

It's the type of shit beisbol fans can give us shit about, tbh. :lol

[dfens]

And then teams like Chile, Uruguay and Costa Rica go on and beat the living shit of Spain, Italy and England. :lol

yet it's been 15 years since a non european side won a world cup.
cmon son we both know it, those are cute teams but they won't amount to shit.

[Darth_Pelican]

Thursday, June 16 – Quarterfinals


9:30 PM ET
United States (http://www.mlssoccer.com/copa-america/usa/roster) vs Ecuador (http://www.mlssoccer.com/copa-america/ecuador/roster) - Match #25
CenturyLink Field
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Friday, June 17 – Quarterfinals


8:00 PM ET
Peru (http://www.mlssoccer.com/copa-america/peru/roster) vs Colombia (http://www.mlssoccer.com/copa-america/colombia/roster) - Match #26
MetLife Stadium
Watch: FS1 (http://www.foxsports.com/tv-listings)
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Saturday, June 18 – Quarterfinals


7:00 PM ET
Argentina (http://www.mlssoccer.com/copa-america/argentina/roster) vs Venezuela (http://www.mlssoccer.com/copa-america/venezuela/roster) - Match #27
Gillette Stadium
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10:00 PM ET
Mexico (http://www.mlssoccer.com/copa-america/mexico/roster) vs Chile (http://www.mlssoccer.com/copa-america/chile/roster) - Match #28
Levi's Stadium
Watch: FX (http://www.fxnetworks.com/settings/channel-lookup)
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[DAF86]

yet it's been 15 years since a non european side won a world cup.
cmon son we both know it, those are cute teams but they won't amount to shit.

That's because of the elite teams, only 2 aren't europeans. When Argentina or Brazil fail the cup inevitably goes to Europe. But that's not a matter of quality or "style", it's a matter of quantity. If anything, you should be ashamed the WC count is as close as it is.

[Brazil]

That's because of the elite teams, only 2 aren't europeans. When Argentina or Brazil fail the cup inevitably goes to Europe. But that's not a matter of quality or "style", it's a matter of quantity. If anything, you should be ashamed the WC count is as close as it is.

wtf is that argument tbh

Both South America and Western Europe have around 400 M habitants, a bit more for Europe. Germany was divided untill recently. I don't see anything shameful for Western Europe in the WC count. How the fact that Western Europe has more teams capable of winning is a stone in Europe's garden exactly ?

If you take the 2 major European nations thats 8 titles against 7

If you take world cup on number of habitants must be pretty even I guess maybe advantage to Europe

[Brazil]

but then there are only 2 elite teams in SA but still other Copa america is somehow more competitive when you have 5/6 elite teams in Europe ? :lol wtf tbh

[hater]

but then there are only 2 elite teams in SA but still other Copa america is somehow more competitive when you have 5/6 elite teams in Europe ? :lol wtf tbh

:cry because having the FIFA mafia cartel headquarters in Euroshit makes no difference :cry

FIFA is a mafia and has been for decades upon decades. Even the GOAT Diego has said it. Even Steph Blatter is saying it :lol

Anyone who counts Wprld Cups as worth any bragging rights is a damn retard :lol

[DAF86]

wtf is that argument tbh

Both South America and Western Europe have around 400 M habitants, a bit more for Europe. Germany was divided untill recently. I don't see anything shameful for Western Europe in the WC count. How the fact that Western Europe has more teams capable of winning is a stone in Europe's garden exactly ?

If you take the 2 major European nations thats 8 titles against 7

If you take world cup on number of habitants must be pretty even I guess maybe advantage to Europe

The fuck did you get those numbers? Europe has like double the number of habitants South America has. :lol

And that's not even the most important thing. The important thing here ia that we are 10 countries. You are 50. That's a 5 to 1 ratio! :lol

If Brazil was divided into 3 countries I'm sure SA would have 2 more elite nations, tbh.

The WC count should be something close to that 5 to 1 ratio, tbh. Specially since you pretend to be so much better at it. :lol

[DAF86]

but then there are only 2 elite teams in SA but still other Copa america is somehow more competitive when you have 5/6 elite teams in Europe ? :lol wtf tbh

2 out of 10 is 20% of elitness.

5 out of 50 is 10% of elitness

Tbh

[dfens]

2 out of 10 is 20% of elitness.

5 out of 50 is 10% of elitness

Tbh

son you know you are my nigga, but have you taken statistics in college you could easily see the failure here.
Facts:
1) europe has more contenders
2) europe has a lot of tight/surprise games, where one mistake will lose you the match
3) even with a 24 team euro the netherlands (3rd place in 2014) didn't qualify
4) all euro teams play with their best possible rosters, you don't get to say "I beat brazil at the copa america.. their 3rd team".

Deductions:
A) from 1) and 2) europe is indeed stacked with contenders but the rest of the teams aren't there for nothing, as they bring a lot competitions, many teams are really strong 2nd tiers (croatia, belgium, england, swiss, poland, etc) or very strong 3rd tiers (ireland, portugal, russia, ukraine etc)
B) from 3) and 2) a team can't partially implode and then qualify like in SA for example, see netherlands (and many other examples)
C) from 3) and 2) europe has by far the largest variety of playing styles so it's harder to win something as contenders see different types of defenses and strategies. If a contender doesn't adjust they lose points/don't qualify.
D) from 4) and 3) there are no excuses

Conclusions:
Even if the small euro eliteness at the top is clear that eliteness has to work their ass off to remain elite as each tier of competition pushes the tier atop even harder (the strong 2nd tiers are really a pain in the ass tbh). All european teams are organized, teams don't get constant free meals (haiti, jamaica :lol) but have to work 24/7 to get something. The 5 euro microstates are pointless, but they are just 5/50, they aren't 25/50. Due to this constant attrition teams are forced to innovate tactically.

What you need to understand brother is that a high level of competition doesn't imply many goals and spectacular football, it mostly implies teams feeling the risk and attacking cautiously. This isn't even a football related analysis, in any game (market economics, politics, poker etc) when the stakes are high and competition is stiff players/teams don't go all in but cautiously and slowly build their position. Sometimes they take quick calculated risks but overall they try to play a solid positional game. This is exactly what you saw at the last world cup with few goals (except bra7il who were punished for monkey tactics) and lots of drama, where your argentina had its best result since maradona by playing some solid D. Or look how the USA can compete with a shit roster, it's not because of talent or luck or refs, it's because klinsmann isn't a dumbass like dunga/mexico coach/maradona/etc. That's why I find the euro more interesting, because it's not a still evolving "spectacular" competition with half rosters, poor defenses and bad coaches, it's a finished product with mature teams.

Take it from a german son: boring rigorous football is good football, capitalize on your chances and don't let the other team have them. That's how winners play.
Also, I'd bet my house that a weaker 3rd tier euro team like finland/hungary/romania/slovenia/iceland/belarus/slovakia/russia wouldn't finish last in south america because they are tactically superior and would frustrate no-defense american teams into mistakes.

That being said it's fun to watch the copa tbh:
niggas going all-in all the time
coaches "innovating" like the mexican coach
goalkeepers not giving any fucks for positioning
teams tracking back with only the defensive line

[Brazil]

The fuck did you get those numbers? Europe has like double the number of habitants South America has. :lol

And that's not even the most important thing. The important thing here ia that we are 10 countries. You are 50. That's a 5 to 1 ratio! :lol

If Brazil was divided into 3 countries I'm sure SA would have 2 more elite nations, tbh.

The WC count should be something close to that 5 to 1 ratio, tbh. Specially since you pretend to be so much better at it. :lol

smh

only Wester countries won a WC, if you want to compare you add latin and north america. South America compares itself with Western Europa not Europa. Would not make sense

[pgardn]

Personally I like the difference in styles.

Its a matter of personal preference. Teams like Northern Ireland in the Euros just totally go 11 in the box and then hope for a set piece to score when they know they are outmanned. They practice this defense and play it extraordinarly well. The opposition hates it because this style is very difficult to look good against. And it's difficult to beat. Their fans appreciate them trying to win or just get through. ts the only chance they have. The SA style is more go down playing the full field but go down "honorably". And win with style, not a war of attrition. Bolivia was just getting embarrassed every game. Their tuneup against the US showed me they were gonna get trounced on the field AND scoreboard. So Bolivia going dormant in the 2nd half when they had not before was a bow to the European underdog teams. Or, disgraceful. Your choice.

You see somewhat the same thing in La Liga. Barcelona or Real M get booed off the field if they go Athletico Madrid tactics. Expectations are a bitch. And then in the EPL you see teams that are expected by their fans NOT to play open football and try to get a draw against bigger opponents.

Its all good for me as long as you see and admit the attitudes.

[Canyonero]

I don't know who to root for tonight tbh.

[Canyonero]

Btw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4396npExGs

:lol:lol:lol

[DAF86]

smh

only Wester countries won a WC, if you want to compare you add latin and north america. South America compares itself with Western Europa not Europa. Would not make sense

Now you are just picking the countries you want? OK. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Every time I predict against the US of Gay, they've won so far this tournament.

Not saying who I'm predicting, y'all know who I'm rooting for tho

[DAF86]

son you know you are my nigga, but have you taken statistics in college you could easily see the failure here.
Facts:
1) europe has more contenders

I already tackled this. If you have a 5 to 1 ratio advantage, is only logical to have more contenders too.


2) europe has a lot of tight/surprise games, where one mistake will lose you the match

And South America doesn't? Everyfucking team is competitive here. There are no Macedonias, Faroe Islands, San Marinos, etc, here son. We don't get those semi amateur games you get pretty often on European qualifiers, tbh.


3) even with a 24 team euro the netherlands (3rd place in 2014) didn't qualify

That speaks more about The Netherlands than anything else. When there's teams like Albania, Hungary or Austria and you didn't make it, you are the one in fault. You qualified to the WC out of 16, and you don't qualified to the Euros out of 24? You obviously regressed and don't deserved to be rated by anybody.


4) all euro teams play with their best possible rosters, you don't get to say "I beat brazil at the copa america.. their 3rd team".

Brazil didn't send its 3rd team, tbh. It send its A team minus Neymar (And Douglas Costa who is injured). And the only reason for it is 'cause Barcelona made them choose between the CA and the Olympics. And Brazil preferred the Olympics 'cause they have never won it and its on their home soil.

Teams used to send lesser teams in some of the previous events 'cause the Copa America was played every 2 years. Now that is played every 4 years (except this special edition), everybody gives the tournament the importance it deserves: which is as important as any other confederation's cup (the Euro for you, the Copa de Oro for the CONCACAF teams, the African cup for the Africans, etc.). It's the second best tittle you can win at the National team level.


Deductions:
A) from 1) and 2) europe is indeed stacked with contenders but the rest of the teams aren't there for nothing, as they bring a lot competitions, many teams are really strong 2nd tiers (croatia, belgium, england, swiss, poland, etc) or very strong 3rd tiers (ireland, portugal, russia, ukraine etc)

Same shit happens with South America. Or do you really think a team like Poland is better than Ecuador? :lol


B) from 3) and 2) a team can't partially implode and then qualify like in SA for example, see netherlands (and many other examples)

That's 'cause your qualifing system isn't as fair as the CONMEBOL one. CONMEBOL qualifiers are like a mini-league. 10 teams playing each other home and away. Only the true best teams qualify. There's no flukey shit going on.


C) from 3) and 2) europe has by far the largest variety of playing styles so it's harder to win something as contenders see different types of defenses and strategies. If a contender doesn't adjust they lose points/don't qualify.

That's just not true. You just have to take a peak at the Euro and CA to contrast and see that's just not true. In the Euros everyteam plays a variation of 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2. In CA, besides those formations, you have Mexico playing with 3 on the back, Bolivia playing 5-4-1, the typical Brazilian 4-2-2-2, Uruguay played 4-3-1-2 at some point.

And it's not even that. It's the styles too: In the Euro every game seems the same, tbh. Two generic teams with one of those default formations (4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2) playing an intenseless, inventiveless match. Where they just take turns watching the opponent's centre backs harmelessly pass the ball to each other untill they decide to hit a long ball and lose position.

Every Euro game, so far, has looked the same: a boring, no tension-having game between teams full of generic, robotic, no flair-having players.


D) from 4) and 3) there are no excuses

I already explained this.


Conclusions:
Even if the small euro eliteness at the top is clear that eliteness has to work their ass off to remain elite as each tier of competition pushes the tier atop even harder (the strong 2nd tiers are really a pain in the ass tbh). All european teams are organized, teams don't get constant free meals (haiti, jamaica :lol) but have to work 24/7 to get something. The 5 euro microstates are pointless, but they are just 5/50, they aren't 25/50. Due to this constant attrition teams are forced to innovate tactically.

I already explained this too.


What you need to understand brother is that a high level of competition doesn't imply many goals and spectacular football, it mostly implies teams feeling the risk and attacking cautiously.This isn't even a football related analysis, in any game (market economics, politics, poker etc) when the stakes are high and competition is stiff players/teams don't go all in but cautiously and slowly build their position. Sometimes they take quick calculated risks but overall they try to play a solid positional game. This is exactly what you saw at the last world cup with few goals (except bra7il who were punished for monkey tactics) and lots of drama, where your argentina had its best result since maradona by playing some solid D. Or look how the USA can compete with a shit roster, it's not because of talent or luck or refs, it's because klinsmann isn't a dumbass like dunga/mexico coach/maradona/etc.

I never said this, tbh. Trust me, as one of the biggest EPL critics here, I know about this.

Games being boring as fuck doesn't necessarily mean high level of competition either, tbh.


That's why I find the euro more interesting, because it's not a still evolving "spectacular" competition with half rosters, poor defenses and bad coaches, it's a finished product with mature teams.

You find the Euro more interesting 'cause you are European son. Period. It's the same reason why I find the CA more interesting and lefty finds suicide bomb-attacks interesting, tbh.

And that shit about Euro being a more "evolved, mature and finished product" is just pure European self-centered elitism, tbh. :lol


Take it from a german son: boring rigorous football is good football, capitalize on your chances and don't let the other team have them. That's how winners play.

That's not how you won us the last WC, tbh. You sent people forward and you were left in bad defensive positions many times (that's why Neuer made a name for himself with his sweeping abilities). But at the end your offensive, creative approach ended up playing in your favour. Just like it did for Spain in 2010. And how it does for teams like Barca, Madrid and Bayern in club play. More and more you have to display an offensive audacity to win games on today's football, tbh.


Also, I'd bet my house that a weaker 3rd tier euro team like finland/hungary/romania/slovenia/iceland/belarus/slovakia/russia wouldn't finish last in south america because they are tactically superior and would frustrate no-defense american teams into mistakes.

Those teams might (huuuuge might, tbh) end above Bolivia or Venezuela on a SA qualifier. They have no chance of finishing above any other team. And even finishing above those teams I metioned is highly doubtful because, for example, none of those teams you mentioned would have the home court adavantage Bolivia has, tbh.


Dude I have no problem admitting that Europe has 5 or 6 of the World's 7 or 8 elite NTs. I have no problem admitting that an European team winning a WC is more likely than a WC being won by a team form any toher continent. I have no problem admitting many things, that are actual facts.

My problem comes when folks start making retarded comments like "the euros are harder than the WC", or when they act like their lower tier teams are better than the lower tier teams from other confederations.

dumbfucks would be like: "we couldn't beat Slovakia, but that's OK 'cause Slovakia is an organized, competitive team form Europe, the WC will be easier because we will be facing disorganized banana eater teams like Costa Rica." and then, they proceed to get anally fucked by said team.

That kind of thinking just shows an enormous amount of ignorance son. Don't fall in that.

[Brazil]

Now you are just picking the countries you want? OK. :lol

:lol you are the one picking countries not me...and with the "Europe should be ashamed the number of WC is this close"

If you want just picking South America you compare with Western Europe, if you want to compare with all Europe including Russia you compare with all America from Canada to Argentina which is basically Euro Cup members vs Copa America members...

Your argument about Brazil divided in 3 would give 3 elite teams works both way... Eastern Europe has example of countries that imploded in small countries leading them to be irrelevant see Yugoslavia.

At the end European continent has more WC than American continent and Western Europe more than South America... that's a fact and there is no valid argument to spin dat shit. you take the loss and move on

[DAF86]

:lol you are the one picking countries not me...and with the "Europe should be ashamed the number of WC is this close"

If you want just picking South America you compare with Western Europe, if you want to compare with all Europe including Russia you compare with all America from Canada to Argentina which is basically Euro Cup members vs Copa America members...

I'm comparing CONMEBOL teams to UEFA teams, unlike you, I'm not doing any retarded cherry picking, tbh.


Your argument about Brazil divided in 3 would give 3 elite teams works both way... Eastern Europe has example of countries that imploded in small countries leading them to be irrelevant see Yugoslavia.

Yugoslavia was never in the same stratosphere as Brazil, tbh. You really don't think Brazil could have created 2 or 3 more elite teams if they had divided?


At the end European continent has more WC than American continent and Western Europe more than South America... that's a fact and there is no valid argument to spin dat shit. you take the loss and move on

What loss? When did I ever argue that? Are you OK? :lol

[140]

I already tackled this. If you have a 5 to 1 ratio advantage, is only logical to have more contenders too.



And South America doesn't? Everyfucking team is competitive here. There are no Macedonias, Faroe Islands, San Marinos, etc, here son. We don't get those semi amateur games you get pretty often on European qualifiers, tbh.



That speaks more about The Netherlands than anything else. When there's teams like Albania, Hungary or Austria and you didn't make it, you are the one in fault. You qualified to the WC out of 16, and you don't qualified to the Euros out of 24? You obviously regressed and don't deserved to be rated by anybody.



Brazil didn't send its 3rd team, tbh. It send its A team minus Neymar (And Douglas Costa who is injured). And the only reason for it is 'cause Barcelona made them choose between the CA and the Olympics. And Brazil preferred the Olympics 'cause they have never won it and its on their home soil.

Teams used to send lesser teams in some of the previous events 'cause the Copa America was played every 2 years. Now that is played every 4 years (except this special edition), everybody gives the tournament the importance it deserves: which is as important as any other confederation's cup (the Euro for you, the Copa de Oro for the CONCACAF teams, the African cup for the Africans, etc.). It's the second best tittle you can win at the National team level.



Same shit happens with South America. Or do you really think a team like Poland is better than Ecuador? :lol



That's 'cause your qualifing system isn't as fair as the CONMEBOL one. CONMEBOL qualifiers are like a mini-league. 10 teams playing each other home and away. Only the true best teams qualify. There's no flukey shit going on.



That's just not true. You just have to take a peak at the Euro and CA to contrast and see that's just not true. In the Euros everyteam plays a variation of 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2. In CA, besides those formations, you have Mexico playing with 3 on the back, Bolivia playing 5-4-1, the typical Brazilian 4-2-2-2, Uruguay played 4-3-1-2 at some point.

And it's not even that. It's the styles too: In the Euro every game seems the same, tbh. Two generic teams with one of those default formations (4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2) playing an intenseless, inventiveless match. Where they just take turns watching the opponent's centre backs harmelessly pass the ball to each other untill they decide to hit a long ball and lose position.

Every Euro game, so far, has looked the same: a boring, no tension-having game between teams full of generic, robotic, no flair-having players.



I already explained this.



I already explained this too.



I never said this, tbh. Trust me, as one of the biggest EPL critics here, I know about this.

Games being boring as fuck doesn't necessarily mean high level of competition either, tbh.



You find the Euro more interesting 'cause you are European son. Period. It's the same reason why I find the CA more interesting and lefty (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896) finds suicide bomb-attacks interesting, tbh.

And that shit about Euro being a more "evolved, mature and finished product" is just pure European self-centered elitism, tbh. :lol



That's not how you won us the last WC, tbh. You sent people forward and you were left in bad defensive positions many times (that's why Neuer made a name for himself with his sweeping abilities). But at the end your offensive, creative approach ended up playing in your favour. Just like it did for Spain in 2010. And how it does for teams like Barca, Madrid and Bayern in club play. More and more you have to display an offensive audacity to win games on today's football, tbh.



Those teams might (huuuuge might, tbh) end above Bolivia or Venezuela on a SA qualifier. They have no chance of finishing above any other team. And even finishing above those teams I metioned is highly doubtful because, for example, none of those teams you mentioned would have the home court adavantage Bolivia has, tbh.


Dude I have no problem admitting that Europe has 5 or 6 of the World's 7 or 8 elite NTs. I have no problem admitting that an European team winning a WC is more likely than a WC being won by a team form any toher continent. I have no problem admitting many things, that are actual facts.

My problem comes when folks start making retarded comments like "the euros are harder than the WC", or when they act like their lower tier teams are better than the lower tier teams from other confederations.

dumbfucks would be like: "we couldn't beat Slovakia, but that's OK 'cause Slovakia is an organized, competitive team form Europe, the WC will be easier because we will be facing disorganized banana eater teams like Costa Rica." and then, they proceed to get anally fucked by said team.

That kind of thinking just shows an enormous amount of ignorance son. Don't fall in that.





:wow:wow:wow





.

[Canyonero]

I read everything

[DAF86]

Btw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4396npExGs

:lol:lol:lol

GOD's work, tbh. :lol

[dfens]

I already tackled this. If you have a 5 to 1 ratio advantage, is only logical to have more contenders too.



And South America doesn't? Everyfucking team is competitive here. There are no Macedonias, Faroe Islands, San Marinos, etc, here son. We don't get those semi amateur games you get pretty often on European qualifiers, tbh.



That speaks more about The Netherlands than anything else. When there's teams like Albania, Hungary or Austria and you didn't make it, you are the one in fault. You qualified to the WC out of 16, and you don't qualified to the Euros out of 24? You obviously regressed and don't deserved to be rated by anybody.



Brazil didn't send its 3rd team, tbh. It send its A team minus Neymar (And Douglas Costa who is injured). And the only reason for it is 'cause Barcelona made them choose between the CA and the Olympics. And Brazil preferred the Olympics 'cause they have never won it and its on their home soil.

Teams used to send lesser teams in some of the previous events 'cause the Copa America was played every 2 years. Now that is played every 4 years (except this special edition), everybody gives the tournament the importance it deserves: which is as important as any other confederation's cup (the Euro for you, the Copa de Oro for the CONCACAF teams, the African cup for the Africans, etc.). It's the second best tittle you can win at the National team level.



Same shit happens with South America. Or do you really think a team like Poland is better than Ecuador? :lol



That's 'cause your qualifing system isn't as fair as the CONMEBOL one. CONMEBOL qualifiers are like a mini-league. 10 teams playing each other home and away. Only the true best teams qualify. There's no flukey shit going on.



That's just not true. You just have to take a peak at the Euro and CA to contrast and see that's just not true. In the Euros everyteam plays a variation of 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2. In CA, besides those formations, you have Mexico playing with 3 on the back, Bolivia playing 5-4-1, the typical Brazilian 4-2-2-2, Uruguay played 4-3-1-2 at some point.

And it's not even that. It's the styles too: In the Euro every game seems the same, tbh. Two generic teams with one of those default formations (4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2) playing an intenseless, inventiveless match. Where they just take turns watching the opponent's centre backs harmelessly pass the ball to each other untill they decide to hit a long ball and lose position.

Every Euro game, so far, has looked the same: a boring, no tension-having game between teams full of generic, robotic, no flair-having players.



I already explained this.



I already explained this too.



I never said this, tbh. Trust me, as one of the biggest EPL critics here, I know about this.

Games being boring as fuck doesn't necessarily mean high level of competition either, tbh.



You find the Euro more interesting 'cause you are European son. Period. It's the same reason why I find the CA more interesting and lefty (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896) finds suicide bomb-attacks interesting, tbh.

And that shit about Euro being a more "evolved, mature and finished product" is just pure European self-centered elitism, tbh. :lol



That's not how you won us the last WC, tbh. You sent people forward and you were left in bad defensive positions many times (that's why Neuer made a name for himself with his sweeping abilities). But at the end your offensive, creative approach ended up playing in your favour. Just like it did for Spain in 2010. And how it does for teams like Barca, Madrid and Bayern in club play. More and more you have to display an offensive audacity to win games on today's football, tbh.



Those teams might (huuuuge might, tbh) end above Bolivia or Venezuela on a SA qualifier. They have no chance of finishing above any other team. And even finishing above those teams I metioned is highly doubtful because, for example, none of those teams you mentioned would have the home court adavantage Bolivia has, tbh.


Dude I have no problem admitting that Europe has 5 or 6 of the World's 7 or 8 elite NTs. I have no problem admitting that an European team winning a WC is more likely than a WC being won by a team form any toher continent. I have no problem admitting many things, that are actual facts.

My problem comes when folks start making retarded comments like "the euros are harder than the WC", or when they act like their lower tier teams are better than the lower tier teams from other confederations.

dumbfucks would be like: "we couldn't beat Slovakia, but that's OK 'cause Slovakia is an organized, competitive team form Europe, the WC will be easier because we will be facing disorganized banana eater teams like Costa Rica." and then, they proceed to get anally fucked by said team.

That kind of thinking just shows an enormous amount of ignorance son. Don't fall in that.

son I like you tbh, quality poster. good arguments though I have some qualms:
- spain won by defense (tiki-taka is defense tbh, if spain concedes they weren't great comeback scorers)
- those defender-to-defender passes are just a form of pace control typical to the euro game. It's more of a flavor thing, i like it because it varies the pace. Other people dislike because it stalls the game.
- germany won by not conceding and pressuring maybe we ventured a lot up front but we didn't concede. Neuer is indeed a piece of work :lol
- anybody saying the euros are harder than the wc should be castrated tbh
- lol lefty
- netherlands has no excuse to not qualify. If they'd be brought to play instead of a random nation they'd be among the contenders on talent alone. It doesn't mean they shouldn't be rated, it just means they imploded for some time and quickly recovered.
I'm just saying that the euros are playing it safer than the south americans and that over many samples this tactic has a higher winning percentage even if it leads to tense but uneventful games.

[Brazil]

I'm comparing CONMEBOL teams to UEFA teams, unlike you, I'm not doing any retarded cherry picking, tbh.

why would you compare CONMEBALLS with UEFA ? CONMEBALLS don't organize anymore any international competition with only countries of conmeballs. Copa America is now played between countries from Canada to Argentina like Euro from England to Russia. your take about 5:1 ratio is pretty damn dumb


Yugoslavia was never in the same stratosphere as Brazil, tbh. You really don't think Brazil could have created 2 or 3 more elite teams if they had divided?

I never said it was in the same stratosphere, I'm just saying Yugoslavia was once close to be elite but since its implosion the ex Yugoslavian nations are too small to be relevant.

For Brazil maybe maybe not, hard to say, now you could also argue that if Brazil was divided in 3 giving 3 countries of size of England you may have 3 WCs instead of 5 or instead of creating France, Spain and England you create Germany, Italy and Spain and you sit on 9 WCs instead of 5. Nevertheless taking account CBF incompetence in general I'd say pool of talents due to huge number of habitants compensate for lack of professionalism so in Brazil's case better one country than 3.

[DAF86]

why would you compare CONMEBALLS with UEFA ? CONMEBALLS don't organize anymore any international competition with only countries of conmeballs. Copa America is now played between countries from Canada to Argentina like Euro from England to Russia. your take about 5:1 ratio is pretty damn dumb

The fuck does this have to do with what we were arguing about? :lol This whole thing started with the WC count. The only teams to have ever won WCs are CONMEBOL and UEFA teams. Try to stay on topic son. :lol


I never said it was in the same stratosphere, I'm just saying Yugoslavia was once close to be elite but since its implosion the ex Yugoslavian nations are too small to be relevant.

Brazilians not only were more than "close to elite". They are the daddys of all. And over the course of history they have had many stacked generations that could have probably created 2 or 3 elite teams per generation.


For Brazil maybe maybe not, hard to say, now you could also argue that if Brazil was divided in 3 giving 3 countries of size of England you may have 3 WCs instead of 5 or instead of creating France, Spain and England you create Germany, Italy and Spain and you sit on 9 WCs instead of 5. Nevertheless taking account CBF incompetence in general I'd say pool of talents due to huge number of habitants compensate for lack of professionalism so in Brazil's case better one country than 3.

Nah, if you combine all the European WC champions into one team UEFA wouldn't have 11 WC wins. For the simple fact that is, obviously, easier for a single upset to happen than 5 (the number of UEFA teams to win at least a WC). That's why is also more likely for an European team to win a WC. If Argentina and Brazil fail, that's it. If Germany and Italy fail, you still have Spain, France, etc. it's all in the strength of numbers, tbh.

[Brazil]

^

- the fact that just conmebol and uefa won WCs don't make your argument more relevant... compare what is comparable, both are not.
- Of course they had many stacked generations but for each generation there are only two / three World Cups.
- Your reply has nothing to do with my point... in what universe brazil split in 3 gives more than 5 titles ? thats basically your argument, quantity. in case of Brazil this does not make sense

[TheGreatYacht]

USgAy can't even fill out their own stadiums :lmao

[spursistan]

is Ecuador the most black SA country?

[Canyonero]

:lmao:lmao

[hater]

Good goal by gringos IMO.

Ecuador bullshiting when.they have clearly the better team.

[hater]

is Ecuador the most black SA country?

Na. Brazil is then Colombia. But them Ecuadorian niggas all they do is play ball while brown niggas are IT workers and bankers and shit.

[hater]

:lol bobby wood looks like the IT department helpdesk nigga not a soccer player :lol

[Landon Donofag]

http://i.imgur.com/I5aDh7R.jpg

[Canyonero]

:lol bobby wood looks like the IT department helpdesk nigga not a soccer player :lol

Like a black Iniesta?

[hater]

Like a black Iniesta?

Bobby wood is not Asian? Looks asian

[Landon Donofag]

:lol todays conmebol

[spursistan]

:lol bobby wood looks like the IT department helpdesk nigga not a soccer player :lol
:lol

[Canyonero]

Bobby wood is not Asian? Looks asian

I don't know who he is tbh.

[hater]

Ecuadorian team is the dumbest team left in the tournament tbqh

Other teams would be fucking with gringos heads right now, fouling and shit. Dumb ass ecuadorians

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol bobby wood looks like the IT department helpdesk nigga not a soccer player :lol
Predict a US win bro

[TheGreatYacht]

FBI controlled FIFA giving the US easy Conmebol teams, this shit is rigged

[Canyonero]

FBI controlled FIFA giving the US easy Conmebol teams, this shit is rigged

IT'S FUNNY CAUSE YOU'RE SAYING ARGENTINA IS EASY

[TheGreatYacht]

IT'S FUNNY CAUSE YOU'RE SAYING ARGENTINA IS EASY
FBI will probably incarcerate Messi before the game

[hater]

Predict a US win bro

Mexico is beating Chile btw.

Chespirito finally scores a goal :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Mexico is beating Chile btw.

Chespirito finally scores a goal :lol
You POS :lmao

hater scared of El Tri? /.\

[DAF86]

^

- the fact that just conmebol and uefa won WCs don't make your argument more relevant... compare what is comparable, both are not.
- Of course they had many stacked generations but for each generation there are only two / three World Cups.
- Your reply has nothing to do with my point... in what universe brazil split in 3 gives more than 5 titles ? thats basically your argument, quantity. in case of Brazil this does not make sense

All we talked about was Conmebol, UEFA and the WC count. Pleaaaaaase explain me how the comparisson I made is not relevant. Seriously dog, I'm trying to understand your reasoning. :lol

[hater]

You POS :lmao

hater scared of El Tri? /.\

Sounds to me like someone else is scared trying to find jinxes and shit :lol

Be proud and confident in your team brah

[DAF86]

FBI will probably incarcerate Messi before the game

But I thought Argentina without Messi was better.

[TheGreatYacht]

Sounds to me like someone else is scared trying to find jinxes and shit :lol

Be proud and confident in your team brah
I am, I just don't believe in these Ecuadorian farmers.

Don't know why Conmebol people want more WC spots tbh

[spursistan]

how do you miss that? :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

But I thought Argentina without Messi was better.
No Di Maria, no Dybala... This is might be an exception tbh IMO

[hater]

I am, I just don't believe in these Ecuadorian farmers.

Don't know why Conmebol people want more WC spots tbh

Sounds to me u rooting for Ecuador cause u scared

[TheGreatYacht]

Sounds to me u rooting for Ecuador cause u scared
No :lol

USgAy losing to Ecuador >>> USgAy losing to overrated Argentina

Americucks will think they bowed out respectfully lmao

[pgardn]

how do you miss that? :lol

This is not the first time Bedoya has missed on perfect situations.

God that was horrid.

[playblair]

brooks = world class........... brooks would blanket messi/chicharito..............brooks is blanketing montero................

[pgardn]

brooks = world class........... brooks would blanket messi/chicharito..............brooks is blanketing montero................

He has been very good, especially in the air... But...

I would never ever want so see the ball on the ground with Messi behind it. You don't wish that on any defender.

[TheGreatYacht]

Wtf just happened? :lol

10 vs 10? :lol

Colombian ref, of course :lol

[Landon Donofag]

Ref has good eyes tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

No Bobby Gook, I mean wood* against Argentina

[TheGreatYacht]

Dr. Joe Machnik, FIFA match commissioner?!?! I knew they had Americucks running this crap :lmao

[DAF86]

No Bobby Gook, I mean wood* against Argentina

He had a previous yellow?

[TheGreatYacht]

He had a previous yellow?
Yup in the previous match. At least that's what FOX Sports said

[hater]

Ma nigga Mina is a world class defender tbqh. Without him Ecuador would be losing by 3



Plus he looks like my coca delivery and hit man :lol

[Landon Donofag]

'MURICA

[HI-FI]

Laying down that pipe.

[Landon Donofag]

FREEDOM

[hater]

Nice win USA


I predicted them to reach semis long ago :tu

Proud ofe these fucking gringo retards :lol

[01Snake]

Dempsey was probably saying, "Dude, that shit was going in!"

[hater]

I wish Mina was born across da border in Colombia tbh. He deserves better and we would have a stacked ass team :lol


Plus he could work part time for the cartel

[hater]

Niggas btw I will be attending tomorrows game in person. I might post some shit from da game or not. :lmao

[Landon Donofag]

oh shit cheeks clenched

[DAF86]

Hoho. What a finish we have in store. To not lose the habit.

[DAF86]

How can you miss that? :wow

[140]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

[DAF86]

Somebody put Valencia on a fucking heading drill :lmao

[diego]

what a terrible ref. only saw the beginning of the 2nd half but the 2nd yellow on valencia (he received 2 yellow card worthy fouls before the one he was called for from n.13, much worse than the one he was called for), then the ridiculous make up red for jones who didnt do anything (i think it was 6 who came in pushing and shoving afterwards, still not red worthy), then dempsey kicks an ecuador player and draws a foul from it, then paredes gets a yellow for playing the ball. this is why this sport is maddening, the refs are beyond terrible.

also, replay doesnt fix shit, look no further than the spurs and the league office issuing empty statements after fucking them over.

[TheGreatYacht]

Ener Valencia :lmao

EPLOL players :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Landon Donofag completely quiet on that flop :lmao

[140]

Ecuador should be disqualified from the WC for the shame they're bringing upon GOATmebol tbh

[hater]

Stupid childlish game by Ecuadumb tbh

Dumb fucking niggas

[hater]

I would say Ecuador got.paid for.this game.

Probably billions will be invested on Earthquake reconstruction now.

[HI-FI]

what a terrible ref. only saw the beginning of the 2nd half but the 2nd yellow on valencia (he received 2 yellow card worthy fouls before the one he was called for from n.13, much worse than the one he was called for), then the ridiculous make up red for jones who didnt do anything (i think it was 6 who came in pushing and shoving afterwards, still not red worthy), then dempsey kicks an ecuador player and draws a foul from it, then paredes gets a yellow for playing the ball. this is why this sport is maddening, the refs are beyond terrible.

also, replay doesnt fix shit, look no further than the spurs and the league office issuing empty statements after fucking them over.
This. These sports have way too shitty of refs considering the money involved. But maybe that's by design.

[Landon Donofag]

We did it boys! Prepare thy anus argentina we goin in dry :hungry:


http://www.crossfitcentermass.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/murica__by_mkgraphics-d5ifhdj-1024x576.jpg

:lol conmebol