2016 Copa America Centenario

[Kawhitstorm]

Teams were 0-0 before misty missed that penalty :lol

Biggest choker in professional futbol :lol

The Holland of South America::lol

[Kawhitstorm]

Third str8 finals lost. Very tough to recover from this. I hope Messi has a Lebron like happy ending... :depressed

The only happy ending he's going to experience in international tournaments is with a tranny in Brazil.:lol

[Venti Quattro]

:lmao Sanchez trolling in the background

Meanwhile

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClIXjX-VEAAp8sX.jpg

[Relevancy]

Damn have you guys seeing the messi quotes saying he will no longer play with argentina?:wow

[TheGreatYacht]

Couldn't post...

but we have a new GIF! lefty

:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Damn have you guys seeing the messi quotes saying he will no longer play with argentina?:wow
If Argies want a preview of what the Post-Missi era looks like.... Just rewatch WC14', CA2015, and CA2016 finals

[Venti Quattro]

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Wow, he fucking rage quit

[NikosChelsea7]

http://www.tycsports.com/futbol/messi-se-termino-para-mi-la-seleccion

[TheGreatYacht]

Canyonero give me your sign in so I can make threads :depressed

If you want it back the password will be the same

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Messi will be back for 2018 World Cup

[Venti Quattro]

Canyonero give me your sign in so I can make threads :depressed

If you want it back the password will be the same

Messi and Canyonero quit on the same night

[NikosChelsea7]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkeg2F_OG5k

[TheGreatYacht]

Missi is lying. He'll comeback, no doubt. He's just saying this so he can avoid the criticism from the Argies, he knows they'll beg him to comeback

[Relevancy]

If Argies want a preview of what the Post-Missi era looks like.... Just rewatch WC14', CA2015, and CA2016 finalseven if messi hasn't really amazing playing with argentina where are the argies gonna find another player like him?

[TheGreatYacht]

Messi and Canyonero (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49822) quit on the same night
:lmao imagine if Manure follows their footsteps :wow

[lefty]

Meanwhile

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClIXjX-VEAAp8sX.jpg


Couldn't post...

but we have a new GIF! lefty

:lmao

:lol my nig JR Vidal

[TheGreatYacht]

even if messi hasn't really amazing playing with argentina where are the argies gonna find another player like him?
They better start sending shiploads of young Argies to Spain tbh

[dfens]

To all my argentine brothers: I am sorry sons but this was a great game to bet on, made some $$$. You're still my niggas :toast Hopefully the daddy teams wins one so you can have something to bandwagon :lol

[Venti Quattro]

Mascherano also retires from international play
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[TheGreatYacht]

Beta Missi and his Beta brethren Mascherano, taking Diego MALPHAdona's advice....

"But if they don't win, don't bother coming back."

[dfens]

Every fucking final playing like the lesser team. Every fucking final without dominating the possesion. Fuck everybody.
son accept it, you got lucky at the world cup, each time argentina meets a team that presses the ball they are in trouble. That's why I have been saying you get better (albeit boring) football in europe, everybody tries to press and defend. Chile was the first team you encountered at this copa that pressed the ball with any kind of organization, which lead to a drought of chances. 0-0 and penaldos, euro style. you still got a shot in '18 and at the next copa, after that it's gonna be tough times for argentina.


God damnit, my tv's just been smashed before the Chile penalty, a football just came flying through the window out of nowhere and smashed right into it. Did Chile win?
nigga where do you live? africa? .. oh .. england, close enough tbh :lmao


Mental midgets.... Diego spot on, Misty is no leader, tbh...
diego gonna have a field day


I feel for the younglings, tbh... that think this ARG team is the best ever but hasn't seen them win shit ever either...
son, you have to win at least SOMETHING to be best ever team. Going to the finals is nice but you have to win eventually. Both finals with chile were chokes, diego would've gotten at least one. Misty a great player still, he is just a beta.


https://j.gifs.com/wpq1mX.gif

I haven't seen the game (it 7 here in germany and too early to watch recordings..). Who the fuck missed that shit?? Talk about a CHOKE.


http://i66.tinypic.com/2s695at.jpg

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Wow, he fucking rage quit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkeg2F_OG5k
misty going full 11 lebron :lol I can understand tbh, he isn't getting any younger and in 2018 argentina got little chance in europe, and at the next copa america he'll be in his 30s. He knows that this was that one chance to get some silverware. Still ... diego would've gotten at least one copa imo.

[apalisoc_9]

Wow..that's argentinas two best players...Who's going to replace Mascherano? Biglia? :lmao

Argentina will forver be Chile's bitch tbh...bent over and creampied with a hard choke and a spit in the face..

Dang.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol messie last wc, rocked up like a faggot with beiber hairstyle and arm sleeve t ats thinkn his a hard kent

this copa, thinkn he is ramos? gtfo

[ElNono]

it's time for a shakeup, tbh... lots of these guys thought they belonged to the team instead of having to fight to be there...

Masche is kinda old, tbh, but Missi will be back. Just have to be a different team around him, more hungry and with a good coach...

Hopefully Tata is quitting next, tbh, he got cucked by two Argentina coaches back to back..

[lefty]

lol messie last wc, rocked up like a faggot with beiber hairstyle and arm sleeve t ats thinkn his a hard kent

this copa, thinkn he is ramos? gtfo

:lmao

[Kawhitstorm]

Messi is a stud.

He reminds me of pre ring Nowitzki when he was surrounded with punks and not enough talented players to get over the hump... :depressed

Dirk was the one that choked in his MVP season just like Messi missed the penalty, no way around it.:lol

[ElNono]

son, you have to win at least SOMETHING to be best ever team. Going to the finals is nice but you have to win eventually. Both finals with chile were chokes, diego would've gotten at least one. Misty a great player still, he is just a beta.

son, I watched this team cuck your Germany in '86 and beta Holland in '78, tbh... Win a bunch of Copa Americas, etc... but anybody 20 or younger, i feel for those niglets, tbh

[apalisoc_9]

it's time for a shakeup, tbh... lots of these guys thought they belonged to the team instead of having to fight to be there...

Masche is kinda old, tbh, but Missi will be back. Just have to be a different team around him, more hungry and with a good coach...

Hopefully Tata is quitting next, tbh, he got cucked by two Argentina coaches back to back..

Who's going to replace Masche? I thought he was by far their second best player in this tournament..

On the plus side, the defense looks solid. Outside or Rojo..Mercado, otamendi, funes mori can all defend.

Just really need to shake up their offense...Masche quiting = Argentina zero chance in 18..at least with messi quiting you still have talent up front.

[Venti Quattro]

son, I watched this team cuck your Germany in '86 and beta Holland in '78, tbh... Win a bunch of Copa Americas, etc... but anybody 20 or younger, i feel for those niglets, tbh

Piguain must be banished from La Albiceleste

[TDMVPDPOY]

wc final without di maria, got exposed

copa final with di maria, got exposed

so whats the problem with teh nt?

[ElNono]

Who's going to replace Masche? I thought he was by far their second best player in this tournament..

On the plus side, the defense looks solid. Outside or Rojo..Mercado, otamendi, funes mori can all defend.

Just really need to shake up their offense...Masche quiting = Argentina zero chance in 18..at least with messi quiting you still have talent up front.

Need new blood getting reps on... Kranevitter is no Masche, but he's young, and he's good.

Rojo is terrible, needs to go. He can't defend, and when he's asked to attack, he sucks. Didn't like Funes Mori much, but he's really a CB, he's been asked to play left back and he's just not that savvy with the ball. Mercado and Ottamendi were good.

This team needs a real #10, a playmaker. Keep giving chances to Pastore or Lamela, not a lot to choose from. Upfront, is about time to give Dybala, Icardi a shot. Piguan can't play another important game for Argentina, tbh...

In the midfield, Banega was the only positive, up to an extent. Biglia is shit, Di Maria is a pussy and always hurt. It's like that bitch that keeps cock-teasing.

Messi needs to stay, I don't care about the haters, he's an unique talent, and you need to build a solid team around him, where he doesn't need to be the savior.

But if Tata doesn't quit, it's not happening.

[TheGreatYacht]

Losing Messi and Mascherano or losing 0-7.... Which one is worse?

[Venti Quattro]

Losing Messi and Mascherano or losing 0-7.... Which one is worse?

The exodus is not done. AGUERO is also retiring from National Team duties
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[TheGreatYacht]

The exodus is not done. AGUERO is also retiring from National Team duties
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Would be funny if the snake stayed lmao

Wow Argentina taking countless amount of L's :wow

[ElNono]

Would be funny if the snake stayed lmao

Wow Argentina taking countless amount of L's :wow

You can have Higuain, Biglia and Rojo, tbh...

[ElNono]

Is Mexico looking for a coach, tbh?? We have this slightly used coach, Martino, I heard he made 2 finals in a row...

[Venti Quattro]

I have never seen Messi broken like that, tbh. He lost the World Cup and he was sad and that was understandable. He was just.... broken tonight. You can see it in his eyes, the years worth of pressure and frustration of wanting to win something for Argentina. The criticisms, especially from Maradroga, it just drove him over the edge, imo.... I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't come back on National Team duty.

The Catalans love him more and he isn't from there. They even help him hide his taxes

[ElNono]

I have never seen Messi broken like that, tbh. He lost the World Cup and he was sad and that was understandable. He was just.... broken tonight

Me neither. Lots of haters in Argentina saying he doesn't feel for the team... but dude was emotionally broken.

I know the usual trolls/haters will put the blame squarely on him (and he does carry some responsibility, obviously), but I have 10+ people above him that have as much or more responsibility for this shit, starting with the Argentina Federation, the coach and his buddy players, Piguain... we're supposedly "stacked", and Piguain keeps choking like an asshole, Aguero watches from the bench, Di Maria could've been taking selfies all games for all we know, dude disappeared, we play that faggot Biglia for 120 mins, and basically put the entire game on his hands... horrible decisions that costs us silverware.

[dunkman]

Higuain has average skills, the only reason he scored the mano a mano vs the US goalie is because the ball ricocheted into his foot when he missed. Versus Chile once again he got exposed like in the WC final.

Chile had a much more difficult road to the finals, the team showed some heart and deserved to win, tbh.

[Bynumite]

One of the biggest cases of mental midgetness i've ever seen on a football pitch :lmao

Dude wants to go first in the shootout to get his penalty out of the away asap, with less pressure too since Chile missed their first and still finds a way to choke :lmao

[hater]

:lmao this argenvagina meltdown is epic :lol


You "goat" retiring at 29 :lmao

[urunobili]

Canyonero give me your sign in so I can make threads :depressed

If you want it back the password will be the same
I'm starting to believe he was an ElNono troll TBH.

[Brazil]

Even when the who to blame game is obvious, argie fans find a way to spin it...

:cry but but there are more people to blame before Messi :cry

At the end this third final is his cross to carry

[lefty]

Even when the who to blame game is obvious, argie fans find a way to spin it...

:cry but but there are more people to blame before Messi :cry

At the end this third final is his cross to carry
:cry it's Tata's fault
:cry I blame Piguain and KuRt
:cry ADM is shit, fuck Banega
:cry lol Biglia
:cry other than the so called best player in the World was fine

[hater]

:lmao Argentina fans are worse than Laker fans :lmao

But but Iguain shud have got that rebound after that missed penalty :cry

[lefty]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl7Tm_iUoAAVbUL.jpg



:lmao that dude walking by in the background looks like Diego tbh

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[urunobili]

This is HiguaOUT's fault TBH

[Canyonero]

I'm here to say goodbye :cry

I'll be back for my jersey retirement ceremony.

[lefty]

I'm here to say goodbye :cry

I'll be back for my jersey retirement ceremony.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/05e964ecfcf971e6b26b597721516157/tumblr_n5myl5t1da1qas2vfo1_400.gif

[Bynumite]

I'm here to say goodbye :cry

I'll be back for my jersey retirement ceremony.

Suicide is definitely the answer you're looking for brah. Things are not gonna get better. I wish i could say i'll miss you but i really won't.

[Jodelo]

Great penalty!

[hater]

Suicide is definitely the answer you're looking for brah. Things are not gonna get better. I wish i could say i'll miss you but i really won't.

:lmao

He sad thing is Argentina is going to miss Mascherano more than the midget. I don't even see them getting out of the next WC group :lmao

[elemento]

I feel bad for the Argies seriously.

Every time they lose, they try to slice and figure out the problem or point out to someone, but at this point I think it's just a "mufa pecho frio" generation with Messi as the leader. Messi in the NT isn't half as good as he is with Barcelona. Hard to argue against it at this point. We've been watching football for the last 10 years. Messi dominates in Barça and looks average with the NT.

500 goals in Europe but can't score a single one in 3 straight Finals, losing against a less talented Chile twice. 3 WCs, scoreless in 2010 and not a single goal in the knock-off stage in 3 editions. Argentina carried by the defense in 2014 .

You can change the coach, change the system and some players, but there isn't much else to do if the best player in the world can't perform with the NT. It's 10 years of constant excuses for failures and underperforming tournaments. I think Argies have had enough at this point.

[diego]

Well, wish I could say I was surprised.
Chile was wasting time 10 minutes into the game, Jara gave his gift opportunity for higuain to waste, a weak 2ND yellow for Diaz who is one of chile's most important players, table was set for a blow out... Instead, everybody chokes. Martino is the most responsible for fielding a team with no creators, useless finishers and sidebacks who are useless on offense and pathetic scared subs (game ended with the di Maria / kranevitter sub, what a fucking pussy). Messi was good, probably should have drawn more cards/free kicks but he was trying to do everything by himself and made several mistakes (bad fk,pk; getting caught up in drawing fouls instead of playing through them which has always been his best quality). Blow it up and reset, this generation is done.

[diego]

Forgot to say Mascherano is the only guy who performed like a final but he is too old to continue just let him go

[TDMVPDPOY]

I feel bad for the Argies seriously.

Every time they lose, they try to slice and figure out the problem or point out to someone, but at this point I think it's just a "mufa pecho frio" generation with Messi as the leader. Messi in the NT isn't half as good as he is with Barcelona. Hard to argue against it at this point. We've been watching football for the last 10 years. Messi dominates in Barça and looks average with the NT.

500 goals in Europe but can't score a single one in 3 straight Finals, losing against a less talented Chile twice. 3 WCs, scoreless in 2010 and not a single goal in the knock-off stage in 3 editions. Argentina carried by the defense in 2014 .

You can change the coach, change the system and some players, but there isn't much else to do if the best player in the world can't perform with the NT. It's 10 years of constant excuses for failures and underperforming tournaments. I think Argies have had enough at this point.

i dont think he score many goals in the last 3-5 clasico matches also, someone know?

[ElNono]

We're the new Lakerfan/Uruguayfan, tbh.... living in the past...

[diego]

En su puta vida Maradona jugo una final como jugo Messi hoy.

Equating 80s Germany to 2010s Chile :lol

[dfens]

Equating 80s Germany to 2010s Chile :lol

:lmao

[dfens]

sons I got home and watched the game. notes:

- ref :lmao that nigga would get lynched in europe.
- both teams were undisciplined, ugly pointless tackles.
- missi missed penaldo :wow:wow:wow... this shit will remain on his legacy big time tbh.
- piguain missed 1v1 with the keeper smh sons
- rojo couldn't keep his cool in a fucking final :lol
- argentina played down to competition because they can't handle pressing teams, it's like their midfield is non-existent. I said the same thing at the last WC but my argie nigs don't want to hear none of that tbh.
- argentina is overrated imo, folded to easily 2 times in a row against the same style. a talented team but one that can't adapt.
- chile will get overrated now, they are a quite average side.

an underwhelming, tactically mundane game where the better TEAM won again. game set blouses niggas.

[ElNono]

sons I got home and watched the game. notes:

- ref :lmao that nigga would get lynched in europe.
- both teams were undisciplined, ugly pointless tackles.
- missi missed penaldo :wow:wow:wow... this shit will remain on his legacy big time tbh.
- piguain missed 1v1 with the keeper smh sons
- rojo couldn't keep his cool in a fucking final :lol
- argentina played down to competition because they can't handle pressing teams, it's like their midfield is non-existent. I said the same thing at the last WC but my argie nigs don't want to hear none of that tbh.
- argentina is overrated imo, folded to easily 2 times in a row against the same style. a talented team but one that can't adapt.
- chile will get overrated now, they are a quite average side.

an underwhelming, tactically mundane game where the better TEAM won again. game set blouses niggas.

Tactically, it was another shitfest Final again. Playing scared. smh...

[DAF86]

son accept it, you got lucky at the world cup, each time argentina meets a team that presses the ball they are in trouble. That's why I have been saying you get better (albeit boring) football in europe, everybody tries to press and defend. Chile was the first team you encountered at this copa that pressed the ball with any kind of organization, which lead to a drought of chances. 0-0 and penaldos, euro style. you still got a shot in '18 and at the next copa, after that it's gonna be tough times for argentina.

The fuck are you talking about? :lol

In the WC we got to the final playing a bunch of Euros that just sit on their half of the pitch and did a lot of staring and you are trying to sell me Europe?

We got lucky allright, lucky of playing a lot of generic Europeans teams. It was like playing the same team over and over again 'till we got to the final. :lol

[dfens]

The fuck are you talking about? :lol

In the WC we got to the final playing a bunch of Euros that just sit on their half of the pitch and did a lot of staring and you are trying to sell me Europe?

We got lucky allright, lucky of playing a lot of generic Europeans teams. It was like playing the same team over and over again 'till we got to the final. :lol

you could've played germany/france/chile before the finals .. those would've been bad matchups .. I'm not saying lucky because you beat the netherlands and belgium, I'm saying lucky because if a team truly presses this argentina squad your team can't create shit because it doesn't have a true midfield. I'm saying lucky because you need to adapt as a team to be a true contender. We played a snorefest against argentina trying to deny the counterattack, we played a rapefest against a no-defense brazil, we played a tough tactical game against a physical french team ... adaptability or total dominance is the key to contending.

Argentina got lucky because they can be speculated by some systems, to which they'd lack a consistent answer.

And imo that netherlands side is getting underrated here : excellent attacking players, a big physical tough to beat defense and the capacity to play a great counter, great set pieces and some possession game .. makes for a less spectacular but solid against all types of football type of team. Imo you are greatly underrating the tactical aspect of the game, it's a team game after all.

[dfens]

Tactically, it was another shitfest Final again. Playing scared. smh...

they played scared because they know they have no answer to chile's game. that's why these games (vs germany, vs chile) turn into messi playing savior, which isn't a reliable strategy against strong competition. and that's why I keep repeating myself that the copa is overrated even if it is more spectacular and fun to watch, it lacks tactical quality.

[TDMVPDPOY]

man messi faggot are salty....reminds me of that other kent pele...counting all these goals from nowhere part of his total for career...what a fkn joke ass player,

ppl only interested in trophies, not fkn goals u padded against scrub teams no name tournaments

messi leading goal scorer for barca and nt, but wheres the elusive trophy wc or winning something with the nt worth talkin about

[DAF86]

you could've played germany/france/chile before the finals .. those would've been bad matchups .. I'm not saying lucky because you beat the netherlands and belgium, I'm saying lucky because if a team truly presses this argentina squad your team can't create shit because it doesn't have a true midfield. I'm saying lucky because you need to adapt as a team to be a true contender. We played a snorefest against argentina trying to deny the counterattack, we played a rapefest against a no-defense brazil, we played a tough tactical game against a physical french team ... adaptability or total dominance is the key to contending.

Argentina got lucky because they can be speculated by some systems, to which they'd lack a consistent answer.

And imo that netherlands side is getting underrated here : excellent attacking players, a big physical tough to beat defense and the capacity to play a great counter, great set pieces and some possession game .. makes for a less spectacular but solid against all types of football type of team. Imo you are greatly underrating the tactical aspect of the game, it's a team game after all.

I'm not disagreeing with you about the whole pressing thing. I'm disagreeing with you trying to hype up Europen teams. If there's one thing most European teams don't do is to press. 99% of them just sit back and watch the fuck out of the ball.

[Brazil]

Shoot out to my nigg DAF.. he is taking it like a man and no go hiding mode :tu

[DAF86]

Shoot out to my nigg DAF.. he is taking it like a man and no go hiding mode :tu

Never son. Besides, it's not like I wasn't prepared for this. :lol

:cry it's just one game :cry

[Bynumite]

Shoot out to my nigg DAF.. he is taking it like a man and no go hiding mode :tu

I'm not sure if melting down and blaming everybody but the guy who choked during a penalty shootout is any better.

Certainly is funnier to watch though :lol

[Brazil]

I'm not sure if melting down and blaming everybody but the guy who choked during a penalty shootout is any better.

Certainly is funnier to watch though :lol

Better than some Lakers fans just showing their face when the sky is clear tbh

[TDMVPDPOY]

midget missing a penalty when the chilean guy b4 him also missed, so it is still 0-0, that other shit kent who missed the penalty...thats on him...

even if messi scored that, it wouldve still went down to the last kick takers if u going by the assumption that blonde argy wanker still missing...

if it went to the last kicker, would that be alexis taking the kick for chile?

[dfens]

I'm not disagreeing with you about the whole pressing thing. I'm disagreeing with you trying to hype up Europen teams. If there's one thing most European teams don't do is to press. 99% of them just sit back and watch the fuck out of the ball.

Some of the quality teams do press : spain, croatia, germany, france, they did it at this tournament too. Netherlands used to press a lot. But I wasn't saying that pressing is the be-all-end-all .. it's just another tactical tool. In europe pressing isn't that efficient because all teams can play big and mobile up front, so that's why it isn't used obssesively .. except spain sometimes when they are in the mood.

I'm not hyping europe tbh, just pointing out that you can get away with tactical weaknesses in south america, while at a world cup/euro it is harder to do that. (fuck that bracket again tbh). Imo a lot of big euro teams would press argentina because it's obvious they can't handle it and it throws them off their game (which is very nice tbh :toast), that's why I have been saying that france/germany/croatia/spain/italy are tough matchups for argentina. Even the poles can press. Belgium isn't one because they aren't a great tactical side and they would expose themselves with pressing and the netherlands won't do it with this slow generation. Portugal are too dumb. England don't understand pressing. I'm just discussing this argentina weakness .. imo if they are left to their game they are a top 1/2 nation.. but no sane coach would allow that.

And imo messi should take some blame, but others (coaching, midfield, rojo, piguain) have much more of it. Misty should've manned up and started going russell westbrook on chile tbh.

[diego]

sons I got home and watched the game. notes:

- ref :lmao that nigga would get lynched in europe.
- both teams were undisciplined, ugly pointless tackles.
- missi missed penaldo :wow:wow:wow... this shit will remain on his legacy big time tbh.
- piguain missed 1v1 with the keeper smh sons
- rojo couldn't keep his cool in a fucking final :lol
- argentina played down to competition because they can't handle pressing teams, it's like their midfield is non-existent. I said the same thing at the last WC but my argie nigs don't want to hear none of that tbh.
- argentina is overrated imo, folded to easily 2 times in a row against the same style. a talented team but one that can't adapt.
- chile will get overrated now, they are a quite average side.

an underwhelming, tactically mundane game where the better TEAM won again. game set blouses niggas.

Pressing isn't the problem, Argentina beat Chile twice in the past months, and for the most part last night they were able to hold onto the ball, and were able to advance more than Chile did against our own press (though the midfield does have too many defensive players and not enough playmakers). That wasn't the main problem last night though, it was just a choke, from higuain screwing up a freebie, rojo and others more worried about fighting than playing, nobody shooting on target the entire 2ND half, the pk, etc etc etc.
Chile could barely get out of their half in the 1St, though to their credit they realized that Messi was alone in the 2ND and we're able to create some good counters towards the end. In the first half Argentina should have been able to get at least one goal, they didn't because they choked.

[DAF86]

Some of the quality teams do press : spain, croatia, germany, france, they did it at this tournament too. Netherlands used to press a lot. But I wasn't saying that pressing is the be-all-end-all .. it's just another tactical tool. In europe pressing isn't that efficient because all teams can play big and mobile up front, so that's why it isn't used obssesively .. except spain sometimes when they are in the mood.

I'm not hyping europe tbh, just pointing out that you can get away with tactical weaknesses in south america, while at a world cup/euro it is harder to do that. (fuck that bracket again tbh). Imo a lot of big euro teams would press argentina because it's obvious they can't handle it and it throws them off their game (which is very nice tbh :toast), that's why I have been saying that france/germany/croatia/spain/italy are tough matchups for argentina. Even the poles can press. Belgium isn't one because they aren't a great tactical side and they would expose themselves with pressing and the netherlands won't do it with this slow generation. Portugal are too dumb. England don't understand pressing. I'm just discussing this argentina weakness .. imo if they are left to their game they are a top 1/2 nation.. but no sane coach would allow that.

And imo messi should take some blame, but others (coaching, midfield, rojo, piguain) have much more of it. Misty should've manned up and started going russell westbrook on chile tbh.

With the exception of Germany, and maybe Spain, there's not a single team I fear from Europe, tbh. 2nd tier Europeans are the easiest rivals for Argentina. They just sit back and wait for the inevitable to happen (Argentina winning sooner or later). They don't press, they don't counterattack, heck they don't even hit you. 2nd tier teams from South America are a lot harder for us, they play us without fear and if they need to get dirty they will do it.

[dfens]

Pressing isn't the problem, Argentina beat Chile twice in the past months, and for the most part last night they were able to hold onto the ball, and were able to advance more than Chile did against our own press (though the midfield does have too many defensive players and not enough playmakers). That wasn't the main problem last night though, it was just a choke, from higuain screwing up a freebie, rojo and others more worried about fighting than playing, nobody shooting on target the entire 2ND half, the pk, etc etc etc.
Chile could barely get out of their half in the 1St, though to their credit they realized that Messi was alone in the 2ND and we're able to create some good counters towards the end. In the first half Argentina should have been able to get at least one goal, they didn't because they choked.

my point was based on the two weaknesses in argentina's game:
1. they can't easily adapt to not playing their game, even if they held the ball and advanced more, they didn't move normally, it was a frustrating performance imo, and it started with tactical inadaptability.
2. which leads us to the second weakness .. mentally. They get frustrated really fast if they are the favorite but can't play their game, thus if they are constantly contested they have a tendency to shrink and choke ... it's very similar to the warriors imo.

if one of those is activated the other is too. that's a classical self destruct tendency. so imo they didn't just choke.

[Phenomanul]

sons I got home and watched the game. notes:

- ref :lmao that nigga would get lynched in europe.
- both teams were undisciplined, ugly pointless tackles.
- missi missed penaldo :wow:wow:wow... this shit will remain on his legacy big time tbh.
- piguain missed 1v1 with the keeper smh sons
- rojo couldn't keep his cool in a fucking final :lol
- argentina played down to competition because they can't handle pressing teams, it's like their midfield is non-existent. I said the same thing at the last WC but my argie nigs don't want to hear none of that tbh.
- argentina is overrated imo, folded to easily 2 times in a row against the same style. a talented team but one that can't adapt.
- chile will get overrated now, they are a quite average side.

an underwhelming, tactically mundane game where the better TEAM won again. game set blouses niggas.

Ummmm Chile is definitely a top-3 squad right now. Their players all have speed, skill, power and stamina.

[dfens]

With the exception of Germany, and maybe Spain, there's not a single team I fear from Europe, tbh. 2nd tier Europeans are the easiest rivals for Argentina. They just sit back and wait for the inevitable to happen (Argentina winning sooner or later). They don't press, they don't counterattack, heck they don't even hit you. 2nd tier teams from South America are a lot harder for us, they play us without fear and if they need to get dirty they will do it.

italy would frustrate the living hell out of argentina. france in a decent disposition is another team that would make life miserable for you. those would both be close matches.
I'll also say this: england/netherlands/croats could easily frustrate argentina. They can all defend with numbers and size and are lightning fast on the counter and argentina is vulnerable to their set pieces. So I wouldn't say that besides germany and spain it's a easier than uruguay/paraguay/chile. Imo you should look at this like matchups in basketball.

[dfens]

Ummmm Chile is definitely a top-3 squad right now. Their players all have speed, skill, power and stamina.

lol. they have good matchups in south america, which they have exploited expertly, but let them first at least reach a world cup semifinal before we start talking about top 3s. They would have trouble with the physicality of big euro size.. not saying that euros are so much better, just that they'd get tougher matchups than in SA.

[DAF86]

italy would frustrate the living hell out of argentina. france in a decent disposition is another team that would make life miserable for you. those would both be close matches.
I'll also say this: england/netherlands/croats could easily frustrate argentina. They can all defend with numbers and size and are lightning fast on the counter and argentina is vulnerable to their set pieces. So I wouldn't say that besides germany and spain it's a easier than uruguay/paraguay/chile. Imo you should look at this like matchups in basketball.

We historically own Italy and France, tbh.

and :lol at England/Netherlands/Croatia

:lol The netherlands can't make the Euro over Iceland
:lol Croatia lost 3-0 to Mexico
:lmao England

[dfens]

We historically own Italy and France, tbh.

and :lol at England/Netherlands/Croatia

:lol The netherlands can't make the Euro over Iceland
:lol Croatia lost 3-0 to Mexico
:lmao England

history isn't relevent, it's all about the matchups son.
chile lost to brazil who lost 7-0 .. I can play this game all night.
icyland might cuck england though so you got a point here :lol :lmao:lmao england :lmao brexit by icyland :lmao

[DAF86]

history isn't relevent, it's all about the matchups son.
chile lost to brazil who lost 7-0 .. I can play this game all night.
icyland might cuck england though so you got a point here :lol :lmao:lmao england :lmao brexit by icyland :lmao

I know Italy just beat Spain but they are really lacking on talent, tbh. I know they play organized and blah, blah. But we're talking about how Argentina struggle against teams that press them high and take the possession away from them. Italy does the complete opposite of that.

And I see France as a sligthly less talented version of Argentina.

Not really two styles that I see Argentina having problems with, tbh.

[dfens]

I know Italy just beat Spain but they are really lacking on talent, tbh. I know they play organized and blah, blah. But we're talking about how Argentina struggle against teams that press them high and take the possession away from them. Italy does the complete opposite of that.

And I see France as a sligthly less talented version of Argentina.

Not really two styles that I see Argentina having problems with, tbh.

we're talking about matchups not about pressing or organization, pressing is just a tool in matchups, which can be used against argentina, but it is not the only tool.
I don't see argentina having the athletic ability, physicality and set piece game of france.

[DAF86]

we're talking about matchups not about pressing or organization, pressing is just a tool in matchups, which can be used against argentina, but it is not the only tool.
I don't see argentina having the athletic ability, physicality and set piece game of france.

We are actually pretty strong in terms of physicality and set pieces, tbh. The entire defense is an aerial threat. Guys like Mercado and Funes Mori have a special knack for scoring.

I know we are talking about matchups, but what specific traits do you see on those teams to say Argentina would struggle? You first said that Argentina has problems with teams that press high and take possesion away and I agreed with that. But now you are saying these teams, that play a different style, would cause problems?

[Canyonero]

Ok I'm back, just talked to Messi and he told me I shouldn't give up.

[TheGreatYacht]

Ok I'm back, just talked to Messi and he told me I shouldn't give up.
Can we share Canyonero ? Tbh

[Canyonero]

Can we share Canyonero (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49822) ? Tbh

Can't you use one of your alts?

[TheGreatYacht]

Can't you use one of your alts?
I don't have any :lol

[resistanze]

:lol Yesterday's Copa

[Escawun3]

Back to back Champions!!! :hat

[Canyonero]

Hoping for back to back tsunamis as well tbh.

[apalisoc_9]

The Quit

[Escawun3]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13xWTqGkXAw

[ElNono]

Back to back Champions!!! :hat

Aparecio el chileno... Congrats, tbh!

[apalisoc_9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13xWTqGkXAw

:lmao

Forever chile's bitch

[Escawun3]

Thanks man, hopefully we'll get another final against each other

[Venti Quattro]

Thanks man, hopefully we'll get another final against each other

Congrats bro, and Vidal is a cunt

[dfens]

We are actually pretty strong in terms of physicality and set pieces, tbh. The entire defense is an aerial threat. Guys like Mercado and Funes Mori have a special knack for scoring.
I know we are talking about matchups, but what specific traits do you see on those teams to say Argentina would struggle? You first said that Argentina has problems with teams that press high and take possesion away and I agreed with that. But now you are saying these teams, that play a different style, would cause problems?

I know that you got some aerial threats but I think you could get outmuscled, that's what I was saying. Outmuscled on set pieces and outmuscled on quick counters. Let me explain: if france goes with an all african squad they are very tough to deal with in the air. They are big and they are athletic as fuck, so that would obviously be a problem for just about every south american team. France can also play this game and be a counter attacking squad because they got some talent to go with that athleticism and quickness.
Italy on the other hand is a no fucks given niggas team who are as dirty as they come, and are dogs on set pieces. They also have a lot of quickness on the counter and are probablt the most frustrating tram to play against.

Normally strong counter attack teams aren't a problem as teams defend positionally, but given's argentina (lack of) midfield and soft mental stance I think they would have a reasonable chance to fold against such teams.

I'd still take argentina over france/italy at like 60-65% win rate tbh.

[DAF86]

Defense is no longer a problem for Argentina, tbh. In fact, neither is midfield and forwards. Only problem now, is to finally deliver on the final.

[lefty]

Back to back Champions!!! :hat
my nigguz

[lefty]

748256414716534784

[dfens]

748256414716534784

ain't nothing wrong about that son.

[Canyonero]

That was before the cup sons.

[Spurtacular]

That was before the cup sons.

So, they knew ahead of time he could be bought, tbh.

[140]

lol thats not him :lol

also he is known to be a closeted faggot tbh (srs)