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Brian Windhorst
12-18-2015, 09:51 PM
...and will likely be worse against GSW. All it's taking is 1 ball screen and they're getting a wide open shot from either Blake or Paul. LMA can't cover ground fast enough against a PG/PF combo that can both shoot midrange, and TD is even more hopeless against anything but a DJ isolation.

Doesn't help that Pop's defensive scheme is probably the worst thing you could play against teams with shooting PF/PG and an athletic C.

Down 5 and Pop starts hacking when they take out CP3. I might throw something at my TV tbh

Mnky
12-18-2015, 09:53 PM
Regular season doesn't matter. Never has. Spurs will win.

timtonymanu
12-18-2015, 09:55 PM
Play Simmons

Brian Windhorst
12-18-2015, 10:06 PM
Glad we gave the LAC ~1 PPP for three minutes by hacking Jordan when their bench unit without CP3 is one of the worst in the league...

Brian Windhorst
12-18-2015, 10:14 PM
Purposely going into the bonus with 9m left

:wow astonishingly bad tbh

Brian Windhorst
12-18-2015, 10:15 PM
I take it back what I said about LMA + TD

Mods can delete this thread

Pop just has no idea how to coach against this team tbh

exstatic
12-18-2015, 10:25 PM
OP is unplayable on Spurstalk.

exstatic
12-18-2015, 10:26 PM
I take it back what I said about LMA + TD

Mods can delete this thread

Pop just has no idea how to coach against this team tbh

Don't look to the mods to clean up your embarrasing mess.

spurraider21
12-18-2015, 10:36 PM
Takes a special kind of coward to hind behind an alt when we don't know who you are irl anyway

ElNono
12-18-2015, 10:47 PM
ok

Nathan89
12-18-2015, 10:48 PM
:lol

UNT Eagles 2016
12-18-2015, 11:02 PM
Eh. Danny Green was the one screwing the pooch on D all game for the most part. I'm having serious second thoughts on that hefty $10m/year contract, tbh

Mel_13
12-18-2015, 11:02 PM
I take it back what I said about LMA + TD

Mods can delete this thread

Pop just has no idea how to coach against this team tbh


OP is unplayable on Spurstalk.

:lmao

That's one alt that needs to be retired.

Southwest Texas Fan
12-18-2015, 11:16 PM
:lmao

jag
12-18-2015, 11:16 PM
Takes a special kind of coward to hind behind an alt when we don't know who you are irl anyway

:lol

Kawhitstorm
12-18-2015, 11:18 PM
You can't stop the Clippers, you just have to torch them on the other end just like the D'Antoni Suns.

timtonymanu
12-18-2015, 11:18 PM
Play Simmons

Wrong thread

Spursmania
12-18-2015, 11:19 PM
:lol

cd98
12-18-2015, 11:47 PM
Yeah except those two closed out the game in a big way. So wrong.

SAGirl
12-19-2015, 03:02 AM
You can't stop the Clippers, you just have to torch them on the other end just like the D'Antoni Suns.
Agree with you Storm.

100%duncan
12-19-2015, 03:49 AM
Op is one of the worst posters

bic50
12-19-2015, 09:44 AM
:lol

T_L_P
12-19-2015, 09:55 AM
Backfire.

cjw
12-19-2015, 10:04 AM
TD & LMA were great out there. Scary to think what their ceiling is offensively when they fully figure out each other's games. The high low action was awesome.

The hack-a was AWFUL in the third quarter. Not only are you opting to give them 1 PPP as you correctly note (possibly more if giving up OReb, though Deandre at line minimizes the chance at that) when Austin Rivers is on the floor with scrubs, but you're letting CP3 who was VISIBLY tired get extra minutes to rest. Each DJ FT sequence is like an extra minute of game rest.

In the fourth, once they got into early foul trouble I was fine doing that once the starters were back in. Smart strategy then, as starters are way better than 1 PPP.

dbestpro
12-19-2015, 10:32 AM
Playoffs are generally more physical, and are more half court sets. Small ball may not be as effective in the post season. The Spur depth will allow for more physical play inside. The key will be how well the perimeter can crowd the shooters and drive them into the defense, aka twin tower defense.

Spur|n|Austin
12-19-2015, 10:42 AM
Not relevant but funny

http://i.imgur.com/xa92DYGh.jpg

Silver&Black
12-19-2015, 10:50 AM
Mods can delete this thread

Hopefully they won't.

J_Paco
12-19-2015, 10:55 AM
Eh. Danny Green was the one screwing the pooch on D all game for the most part. I'm having serious second thoughts on that hefty $10m/year contract, tbh

Yes, because one poor defensive performance invalidates 3+ years of good to great defensive play and three point shooting. Ha!

Not sure who's overreaction is dumber between you or the OP.

look_at_g_shred
12-19-2015, 11:05 AM
Damn we should've won that game last night.

bic50
12-19-2015, 11:14 AM
Yes, because one poor defensive performance invalidates 3+ years of good to great defensive play and three point shooting. Ha!

Not sure who's overreaction is dumber between you or the OP.

The whole "what have you done for me lately" syndrome.

Mr Bones
12-19-2015, 11:15 AM
Damn we should've won that game last night.


:lol

Poolboy5623
12-19-2015, 11:20 AM
Wow. Had I not known the Spurs won last night, and just came on here, I'd have assumed they lost(and lost bad). WTF is wrong with some of you?

bic50
12-19-2015, 11:26 AM
Wow. Had I not known the Spurs won last night, and just came on here, I'd have assumed they lost(and lost bad). WTF is wrong with some of you?

:lol

UNT Eagles 2016
12-19-2015, 07:54 PM
Yes, because one poor defensive performance invalidates 3+ years of good to great defensive play and three point shooting. Ha!

Not sure who's overreaction is dumber between you or the OP.

you don't give lifetime award contracts. You pay the guy based on your expectations of how they will perform during the year(s) of the new contract. Ask the Eagles how they feel about DeMarco Murray.

Mel_13
12-19-2015, 08:01 PM
you don't give lifetime award contracts. You pay the guy based on your expectations of how they will perform during the year(s) of the new contract. Ask the Eagles how they feel about DeMarco Murray.

Danny's contract was the opposite of a lifetime achievement contract. He's struggling this season, but his contract was extremely team friendly.

UNT Eagles 2016
12-19-2015, 08:04 PM
Danny's contract was the opposite of a lifetime achievement contract. He's struggling this season, but his contract was extremely team friendly.
Even if it was below market value at the time it seems to be well above it now. You don't pay 8 figures per year for a guy who is a high-volume 29% three point shooter with a very limited offensive game and often plays well defensively but still has frequent lapses such as fouling shooters, blowing assignments and cheating under screens.

GSH
12-19-2015, 08:07 PM
W

Mel_13
12-19-2015, 08:09 PM
Even if it was below market value at the time

Contracts are signed at the time. Everything else is hindsight.

YGWHI
12-19-2015, 10:43 PM
Not relevant but funny

http://i.imgur.com/xa92DYGh.jpg

:lol



Not related but a happy ending story...searched for 2 days, and Tim finally found his dog. :tu

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWoaYsmVAAA4Q4M.jpg

https://twitter.com/VanessaLMacias/status/678383708886331392

GSH
12-19-2015, 10:46 PM
Not related but a happy ending story...searched for 2 days, and Tim finally found his dog. :tu



Well at least you didn't start a whole new thread for it. Kudos for that.

YGWHI
12-19-2015, 11:01 PM
Well at least you didn't start a whole new thread for it. Kudos for that.

Thanks :lol

Tbh...I made one or two threads on ST, I'm just a quiet poster.

bic50
12-19-2015, 11:27 PM
:lol



Not related but a happy ending story...searched for 2 days, and Tim finally found his dog. :tu

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWoaYsmVAAA4Q4M.jpg

https://twitter.com/VanessaLMacias/status/678383708886331392

Good for them. Glad that ended happily

exstatic
12-20-2015, 09:40 AM
TD & LMA were great out there. Scary to think what their ceiling is offensively when they fully figure out each other's games. The high low action was awesome.

The hack-a was AWFUL in the third quarter. Not only are you opting to give them 1 PPP as you correctly note (possibly more if giving up OReb, though Deandre at line minimizes the chance at that) when Austin Rivers is on the floor with scrubs, but you're letting CP3 who was VISIBLY tired get extra minutes to rest. Each DJ FT sequence is like an extra minute of game rest.

In the fourth, once they got into early foul trouble I was fine doing that once the starters were back in. Smart strategy then, as starters are way better than 1 PPP.

You must have watched a different game than I did. In the game I watched, DeAndre shot 8-20, or, 40%. That equates to 0.8 ppp, or, motherfucking ELITE defense. Chrissy Paul can rest all he wants during FTs, as long as the ball is taken out of his hands.

cjw
12-20-2015, 10:24 AM
You must have watched a different game than I did. In the game I watched, DeAndre shot 8-20, or, 40%. That equates to 0.8 ppp, or, motherfucking ELITE defense. Chrissy Paul can rest all he wants during FTs, as long as the ball is taken out of his hands.

I didn't realize he was below 40% this year, which is just about what Austin Rivers shoots. I'm not opposed to hack-a, but prefer to let the clock run with CP3 off floor and minimize his rest when there are checkers out there who can lead to fast breaks the other way (which you don't get from FT).

Hack away when CP3, Blake or even Reddick are on the floor.

exstatic
12-20-2015, 11:42 AM
I didn't realize he was below 40% this year, which is just about what Austin Rivers shoots. I'm not opposed to hack-a, but prefer to let the clock run with CP3 off floor and minimize his rest when there are checkers out there who can every yearlead to fast breaks the other way (which you don't get from FT).

Hack away when CP3, Blake or even Reddick are on the floor.
DJ's career mark is 39.7, and he's shooting right at 39 this year. It is not an aberration. We're not even close to the only team that does this to the LAC. He's routinely near the top of the FTA chart every year.

cjw
12-20-2015, 02:06 PM
DJ's career mark is 39.7, and he's shooting right at 39 this year. It is not an aberration. We're not even close to the only team that does this to the LAC. He's routinely near the top of the FTA chart every year.

Right - there's a huge difference between 50% (Whiteside, Howard, etc.) and 40% or less (Drummond and Jordan are the only two that qualify). The worst teams in the league offensively - Lakers and Sixers - are around 50% true shooting %, which considers free throws. So hacking the former group drags their offense down to those levels.

Drummond & Jordan are borderline unplayable against a smart team, assuming you have bodies to throw at the other team and foul. The Spurs are one of the few teams deep enough 1-13 (of players dressed) to be able to throw all of its players on the court without bogging down its offense. When you're only 7-8 deep, foul trouble becomes a concern. But if you can use up Rasual Butler, Simmons, Anderson, Bonner, etc. fouls and they're not complete zeroes on the offensive end, it's a huge advantage.

BillMc
12-20-2015, 02:07 PM
Right - there's a huge difference between 50% (Whiteside, Howard, etc.) and 40% or less (Drummond and Jordan are the only two that qualify). The worst teams in the league offensively - Lakers and Sixers - are around 50% true shooting %, which considers free throws. So hacking the former group drags their offense down to those levels.

Drummond & Jordan are borderline unplayable against a smart team, assuming you have bodies to throw at the other team and foul. The Spurs are one of the few teams deep enough 1-13 (of players dressed) to be able to throw all of its players on the court without bogging down its offense. When you're only 7-8 deep, foul trouble becomes a concern. But if you can use up Rasual Butler, Simmons, Anderson, Bonner, etc. fouls and they're not complete zeroes on the offensive end, it's a huge advantage.

Well said.

exstatic
12-23-2015, 12:28 AM
Can't let this one drop off the first page for too long.