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TheSanityAnnex
01-23-2016, 02:05 PM
This will make your head spin ChumpDumper.


"Tower Hamlets’ gay community has become a particular target of extremists. Homophobic crimes in the borough have risen by 80 per cent since 2007/8, and by 21 per cent over the last year, a period when there was a slight drop in London as a whole.
Last year, a mob of 30 young Muslims stormed a local gay pub, the George and Dragon, beating and abusing patrons. Many customers of the pub told The Sunday Telegraph that they have been attacked and harassed by local Muslim youths. In 2008 a 20-year-old student, Oli Hemsley, was left permanently paralysed after an attack by a group of young Muslims outside the pub. Only one of his assailants has been caught and jailed.

Peter Tatchell, the gay human rights campaigner, said: “The police said no-one was allowed to talk publicly about this because they didn’t want to upset the Muslim community. We’ve made very clear the difference between the Muslim community as a whole and these particular fundamentalists, and the fact that the police wouldn’t publicly say what they knew was an absolute disgrace.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8570506/Police-covered-up-violent-campaign-to-turn-London-area-Islamic.html


Do you sympathize with the gays or Muslims?

ChumpDumper
01-23-2016, 02:53 PM
I don't think anyone should be attacking anyone, but good on you for your gay searches and big gay fonts for your big gay articles.

Blake
01-23-2016, 02:54 PM
Is sympathy for both not an option

ChumpDumper
01-23-2016, 02:55 PM
Is both not an optionClearly, only Muslims ever attack gays and it's all Muslims that attack gays.

TheSanityAnnex
01-23-2016, 04:26 PM
I don't think anyone should be attacking anyone, but good on you for your gay searches and big gay fonts for your big gay articles.
Good to see you are finally back to discussing the issue here.

Let us proceed. “There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)

what things are the police afraid to talk about in the context of the immigration debate?

TheSanityAnnex
01-23-2016, 04:27 PM
I don't think anyone should be attacking anyone, but good on you for your gay searches and big gay fonts for your big gay articles.
Good to see you are finally back to discussing the issue here.

Let us proceed. “There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)

what things are the police afraid to talk about in the context of the immigration debate?

TheSanityAnnex
01-23-2016, 04:31 PM
Is sympathy for both not an option
You have sympathy for a mob of muslims beating up gays in a pub?

ChumpDumper
01-23-2016, 04:37 PM
Good to see you are finally back to discussing the issue here.

Let us proceed. “There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)

what things are the police afraid to talk about in the context of the immigration debate?


Good to see you are finally back to discussing the issue here.

Let us proceed. “There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)

what things are the police afraid to talk about in the context of the immigration debate?Just take the L, TSA.

You look really desperate double posting at this point. This really is the only reason you're still posting here.

rmt
01-23-2016, 04:46 PM
You have sympathy for a mob of muslims beating up gays in a pub?

How are they gonna reconcile women's rights, gay marriage and transgender issues with Islam?

ChumpDumper
01-23-2016, 04:50 PM
How are they gonna reconcile women's rights, gay marriage and transgender issues with Islam?How do you reconcile those with Christianity?

TheSanityAnnex
01-23-2016, 04:51 PM
Just take the L, TSA.

You look really desperate double posting at this point. This really is the only reason you're still posting here.
I'll continue asking you the same question and watch the continuous dodge. The "it was never an issue I raised" is not a valid excuse. Stop being a bitch.

“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)

what things are the police afraid to talk about in the context of the immigration debate?

ChumpDumper
01-23-2016, 04:53 PM
I'll continue asking you the same questionOf course you will. Trying to get even is the most important thing to you after I so thoroughly embarrassed you with zero effort.

Good luck with that.

rmt
01-23-2016, 04:56 PM
How do you reconcile those with Christianity?

Is there a recent report of a mob of Christians beating up gays in a pub that I'm missing?

rmt
01-23-2016, 04:59 PM
Sorry posted in wrong thread.

ChumpDumper
01-23-2016, 05:00 PM
Is there a recent report of a mob of Christians beating up gays in a pub that I'm missing?So how do you reconcile those things with Christianity?

TheSanityAnnex
01-23-2016, 05:09 PM
Of course you will. Trying to get even is the most important thing to you after I so thoroughly embarrassed you with zero effort.

Good luck with that.the problem with you theory is that I'm not embarrassed. I thought I copy/pasted everything, I didn't. I admitted the mistake there's nothing embarrassing about that.

What is embarrassing is that you are trying to justify your dodging of a question because it was never an issue you raised.
That is embarrassing, stop embarrassing yourself.



“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)


what things are the police afraid to talk about in the context of the immigration debate?

TheSanityAnnex
01-23-2016, 05:12 PM
So how do you reconcile those things with Christianity?
The issue is Islam, why are you raising other issues and expecting answers?

ChumpDumper
01-23-2016, 05:13 PM
the problem with you theory is that I'm not embarrassed. I thought I copy/pasted everything, I didn't. I admitted the mistake there's nothing embarrassing about that. Of course you're not going to admit being so thoroughly embarrassed after being so thoroughly embarrassed.

No one would expect you to after being so thoroughly embarrassed.

You're only embarrassing yourself now though. The only reason you are still in this thread is your thirst for internets revenge after being so thoroughly embarrassed. Keep trying though. Maybe you'll figure it out one day.

ChumpDumper
01-23-2016, 05:16 PM
The issue is Islam, why are you raising other issues and expecting answers?Who says I expected an answer?

I guess if a Christian never beat up a gay dude and only Muslims ever did she might have a point, as would you.

TheSanityAnnex
01-23-2016, 05:17 PM
Of course you're not going to admit being so thoroughly embarrassed after being so thoroughly embarrassed.

No one would expect you to after being so thoroughly embarrassed.

You're only embarrassing yourself now though. The only reason you are still in this thread is your thirst for internets revenge after being so thoroughly embarrassed. Keep trying though. Maybe you'll figure it out one day.keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better about holding spurstalk's record setting dodge.

“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)




what things are the police afraid to talk about in the context of the immigration debate?

ChumpDumper
01-23-2016, 05:18 PM
keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better about holding spurstalk's record setting dodge.Hey, you're the one who just tried to be a forum cop on behalf of the Christian race.

This is really getting to you.

TheSanityAnnex
01-23-2016, 05:19 PM
Who says I expected an answer?

I guess if a Christian never beat up a gay dude and only Muslims ever did she might have a point, as would you.
If you can find me a city where Christians moved into and homophobic crimes went up 80% you might have a point.

TheSanityAnnex
01-23-2016, 05:21 PM
Hey, you're the one who just tried to be a forum cop on behalf of the Christian race.

This is really getting to you.:lol damn dude that went right over your head.

ChumpDumper
01-23-2016, 05:21 PM
If you can find me a city where Christians moved into and homophobic crimes went up 80% you might have a point.So your contention is Christians have never beaten up any gays ever and are above reproach. Only Muslims do these things ever.

OK.

TheSanityAnnex
01-23-2016, 05:23 PM
Hey, you're the one who just tried to be a forum cop on behalf of the Christian race.

This is really getting to you.
And just because you edited the quote doesn't mean that it wasn't another dodge. What are we up to now 20? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with dodge #19. Try again.

“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)








what things are the police afraid to talk about in the context of the immigration debate?

ChumpDumper
01-23-2016, 05:24 PM
lol keep "discussing Islam"

TheSanityAnnex
01-23-2016, 05:25 PM
So your contention is Christians have never beaten up any gays ever and are above reproach. Only Muslims do these things ever.

OK.
Where's this similar Christian city?

TheSanityAnnex
01-23-2016, 05:26 PM
lol keep "discussing Islam"
lol keep "dodging discussing Islam"

“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)








what things are the police afraid to talk about in the context of the immigration debate?

ChumpDumper
01-23-2016, 05:27 PM
Where's this similar Christian city?Look, you made your belief clear. You will never even acknowledge any Christian has ever beaten up any gay dude in the history of the world.

You can't.

TheSanityAnnex
01-23-2016, 05:33 PM
Look, you made your belief clear. You will never even acknowledge any Christian has ever beaten up any gay dude in the history of the world.

You can't.
Of course Christians have beat up gays, that isn't the issue, although that's what you are trying to turn it into to deflect from the fact that Muslims moved into town and homophobic crimes went up 80%.

ChumpDumper
01-23-2016, 05:38 PM
Of course Christians have beat up gays, that isn't the issue, although that's what you are trying to turn it into to deflect from the fact that Muslims moved into town and homophobic crimes went up 80%.Not at all, I simply asked rmt how she reconciled Christianity with all the things she listed.

You made the jump about deflection.

I'm against these attacks. You somehow want me to be for them. It doesn't matter to me what religion the perpetrator follows. That is the only thing that matters to you. You wouldn't give a shit about it otherwise.

TheSanityAnnex
01-23-2016, 06:06 PM
Not at all, I simply asked rmt how she reconciled Christianity with all the things she listed.

You made the jump about deflection.

I'm against these attacks. You somehow want me to be for them. It doesn't matter to me what religion the perpetrator follows. That is the only thing that matters to you. You wouldn't give a shit about it otherwise.
How can you be against them and downplay them at the same time?

ChumpDumper
01-23-2016, 06:22 PM
How can you be against them and downplay them at the same time?I'm against these attacks. You somehow want me to be for them. It doesn't matter to me what religion the perpetrator follows. That is the only thing that matters to you. You wouldn't give a shit about it otherwise.

What part do you not understand?

TheSanityAnnex
01-23-2016, 07:03 PM
I'm against these attacks. You somehow want me to be for them. It doesn't matter to me what religion the perpetrator follows. That is the only thing that matters to you. You wouldn't give a shit about it otherwise.

What part do you not understand?
Are you denying you try and downplay these attacks?

Blake
01-23-2016, 08:33 PM
Of course Christians have beat up gays, that isn't the issue, although that's what you are trying to turn it into to deflect from the fact that Muslims moved into town and homophobic crimes went up 80%.

What is your proposal for how to handle the issue of Islam?

Blake
01-23-2016, 08:40 PM
Is there a recent report of a mob of Christians beating up gays in a pub that I'm missing?

There's this

"...The church’s pastor, Rick Sosbe, said a church member texted him a picture of the vandalism as he was preparing to go to the church for his regular office duties.

“I was angry. I was very sad and I thought, ‘Just why?’ To me, it seems so interesting that they’re saying on there that you’ll burn – in other words saying ‘You’ll burn in hell,’ I’m sure – and quoting scripture. Is that what Christianity – right-wing, fundamentalist Christianity – has come to?” he said.

Sosbe and his partner, Michael Rehn, got married June 30, four days after the U.S. Supreme Court legalized gay marriage in all states.

He believes Tuesday’s vandalism and the flag incident are a reaction to his and the church’s increased presence in the media because of the legalization of

We've occupied this building for 12 years, and this is the first (time) something’s happened,” he said.

Sosbe said he plans to discuss buying some security cameras with the church’s board within the next couple of days.

According to an incident report from the Richmond County Sheriff’s Office, damages were estimated at $2,500. Deputies could not lift any fingerprints from the dried paint........"

http://m.chronicle.augusta.com/news/crime-courts/2015-07-21/entrance-pro-lgbt-metropolitan-community-church-our-redeemer-defaced#gsc.tab=0

boutons_deux
01-23-2016, 09:35 PM
No bathrooms. No heat. Aboard the decrepit refugee 'cattle cars.'


http://cdn1.pri.org/sites/default/files/styles/story_main/public/story/images/RTX2315U.jpg?itok=P6J2Mo_Q

Passengers cram into the fetid trains carrying refugees toward northern Europe.

"They are packing people into those trains like they are cattle cars. Every single inch of space is taken," says Leesteffy Jenkins, a bakery owner who recently volunteered in a transit camp in Macedonia. "It smells, there are no bathroom facilities, no heat."

And yet, Jenkins says, refugees are "desperate" to board the trains.

"No matter how sick, they will not stop, and they will not be separated from their family groups, because they're so scared."

Jenkins slipped onto a refugee train on a recent night as it ferried passengers from a transit camp in Gevgelija, Macadonia to Serbia.

She found her way aboard even though humanitarian aid workers are strictly forbidden on the trains.

"There was one woman who had twin babies. The doctors from Red Cross and the doctors on our team both said to her, 'This one baby, if you don't get it to the hospital it could die in the next few hours.' It was so critically ill. Her other twin, her other baby, a two-year old, was fine. She had to make the choice, which child am I going to save here, because they're so scared of these borders closing, that she refused to go to the hospital. She just got on the train with that very very sick child in this cattle car. And we heard a few days later that a baby did die when it got off the train on the other side in Serbia."

Jenkins says another woman boarded a train with serious kidney problems.

She has blogged extensively (http://violettegf.com/charity/)about her volunteer assignment with NuN Civil Association (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=1626738200877187&story_fbid=1636404589910548) in Gevgelija and her work with the Americans for Refugees in Crisis (https://www.facebook.com/AmericansAgainsttheRefugeeCrisis/). She owns the Violette bakery in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

In December, she stuffed several large suitcases to the brim with boots, shoes and socks and closed shop for several weeks. She was determined to go where the need was greatest.

"Everyone wants to go to Lesbos, where you can pull babies out of the water," she says. "The Balkans are not as 'sexy' as the islands. They get far less volunteers."

In Macedonia, refugees are processed, and then board decrepit trains bound for Serbia. Jenkins hopes to return to the camp next July.

"If everyone went to a refugee camp, we would not be having the political debates that we're having. In fact, the refugee camps are magnets. People go and they come back again and again. People quit their jobs."

"You just cannot not go back once you've gone," she says.

http://www.pri.org/stories/2016-01-21/decrepit-trains-ferrying-refugees-macedonia-serbia-are-packed-cattle-cars

Thanks,Repugs. Fucking up, maiming, killing Ms of innocent people for BigOil.

TheSanityAnnex
01-24-2016, 04:04 PM
There's this

"...The church’s pastor, Rick Sosbe, said a church member texted him a picture of the vandalism as he was preparing to go to the church for his regular office duties.

“I was angry. I was very sad and I thought, ‘Just why?’ To me, it seems so interesting that they’re saying on there that you’ll burn – in other words saying ‘You’ll burn in hell,’ I’m sure – and quoting scripture. Is that what Christianity – right-wing, fundamentalist Christianity – has come to?” he said.

Sosbe and his partner, Michael Rehn, got married June 30, four days after the U.S. Supreme Court legalized gay marriage in all states.

He believes Tuesday’s vandalism and the flag incident are a reaction to his and the church’s increased presence in the media because of the legalization of

We've occupied this building for 12 years, and this is the first (time) something’s happened,” he said.

Sosbe said he plans to discuss buying some security cameras with the church’s board within the next couple of days.

According to an incident report from the Richmond County Sheriff’s Office, damages were estimated at $2,500. Deputies could not lift any fingerprints from the dried paint........"

http://m.chronicle.augusta.com/news/crime-courts/2015-07-21/entrance-pro-lgbt-metropolitan-community-church-our-redeemer-defaced#gsc.tab=0
You forgot to paste the part of the article where the Christian mob beat them up.

Blake
01-24-2016, 04:15 PM
You forgot to paste the part of the article where the Christian mob beat them up.

Because that makes the crime committed by bible beaters agajnst the gays irrelevant.

No harm no foul

MultiTroll
01-24-2016, 06:51 PM
And just because you edited the quote doesn't mean that it wasn't another dodge. What are we up to now 20? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with dodge #19. Try again.
ChumpDumper has brought in Blake to help him dodge.
http://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Boards/297/29297/128881.jpg (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjpgpu-0cPKAhUruoMKHalxDlwQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2FTopic%2FIm-disappointed-in-you-guys-3261352&bvm=bv.112454388,d.amc&psig=AFQjCNHWLuSOsOo0ao6Dll3jLYxVGn_nMQ&ust=1453765684450704)

TheSanityAnnex
01-24-2016, 08:12 PM
Because that makes the crime committed by bible beaters agajnst the gays irrelevant.

No harm no foul
vandalism=assault?

spankadelphia
01-25-2016, 12:47 AM
What is your proposal for how to handle the issue of Islam?

It's a bigger issue in Europe for obvious reasons. The Atlantic and Pacific oceans are pretty good at weeding out the riff raff. A good start would be nixing any proposal by the current administration to bring in uneducated, uncultured, hardcore fundamentalist religious economic migrants with zero marketable job skills from a part of the world we've been bombing the shit out of. That would be a bad idea, in my opinion.

spankadelphia
01-25-2016, 12:51 AM
Because that makes the crime committed by bible beaters agajnst the gays irrelevant.

No harm no foul

False equivalency. The Islamic terrorist body count for 2016 is already in the 100's. No ideology on this planet is comparable.

Blake
01-25-2016, 02:42 AM
vandalism=assault?

No, but the bible calls for death to the gay so there's that. What's your proposal on what to do about Islam?

Blake
01-25-2016, 02:47 AM
It's a bigger issue in Europe for obvious reasons. The Atlantic and Pacific oceans are pretty good at weeding out the riff raff. A good start would be nixing any proposal by the current administration to bring in uneducated, uncultured, hardcore fundamentalist religious economic migrants with zero marketable job skills from a part of the world we've been bombing the shit out of. That would be a bad idea, in my opinion.

That doesn't address Islam itself.

Blake
01-25-2016, 02:48 AM
False equivalency. The Islamic terrorist body count for 2016 is already in the 100's. No ideology on this planet is comparable.

What do you want to do about Islam?

Blake
01-25-2016, 02:50 AM
ChumpDumper has brought in Blake to help him dodge.
http://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Boards/297/29297/128881.jpg (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjpgpu-0cPKAhUruoMKHalxDlwQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2FTopic%2FIm-disappointed-in-you-guys-3261352&bvm=bv.112454388,d.amc&psig=AFQjCNHWLuSOsOo0ao6Dll3jLYxVGn_nMQ&ust=1453765684450704)

I'm wondering why this thread keeps getting bumped up and saw a post that had potential for an lol.

But hey you brought a jpeg for help tho. Neat.

boutons_deux
01-25-2016, 05:27 AM
That doesn't address Islam itself.

Islam itself isn't a problem, it's the tiny percentage of Muslims who were inflamed by the Repugs invading and fucking up their countries, causing the maiming and deaths of their friends, family, compatriots.

Had USA not invaded Iraq, you wouldn't be talking about "Islam itself", about which nobody can "address", other than to keep killing them, which is how America rules its empire.

Just like most Christians don't follow exactly ALL the OT craziness, most Muslims refuse to follow the craziness in their sacred literature.

Repugs created this Middle East disaster, and I don't see any path forward. The insanity is the Repugs want to keep repeating their errors and expecting different results.

Winehole23
01-25-2016, 10:21 AM
Yeah, it's not 1970thank God, no.

Glad we both agree that subjugation of women in the USA is recent, not ancient history.

Winehole23
01-25-2016, 10:25 AM
Presently? Sure it is.You're wrong. It's not peculiar to any religious group or nationality, but rather common, even now. Even in the US.

spankadelphia
01-26-2016, 01:47 AM
"No true Scotsman."

No true Muslim does terrorism. Those that do aren't Muslim. Except they look like Muslims and live in the Muslim communities and call themselves Muslims.

Maybe until Muslims decide whether they are terrorists or not, some caution would be in order.

Blake
01-26-2016, 09:02 AM
"No true Scotsman."

No true Muslim does terrorism. Those that do aren't Muslim. Except they look like Muslims and live in the Muslim communities and call themselves Muslims.

Maybe until Muslims decide whether they are terrorists or not, some caution would be in order.

It's like you're rolling with the fallacy you quoted. Who exactly are you implying should use the caution?

Dirk Oneanddoneski
01-26-2016, 12:02 PM
In Sweden YES! news a 22yr migrant center employee was stabbed to death by a 15 yr old mudslime migrant
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/01/26/14/3098A0FE00000578-0-image-a-12_1453819640180.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3416343/Sweden-asylum-worker-22-stabbed-death-frenzied-attack-CHILD-migrant-centre-refugee-boy-15-arrested-murder.html

And in Germany Cologne police are seeking an Arabic man that bought a large amount of ammonium nitrate and may cancel its Karneval festival on the 4th

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.focus.de/regional/koeln/angst-vor-karneval-koelner-polizei-fahndet-nach-terror-verdaechtigem_id_5240364.html&usg=ALkJrhiJpdyM-jY3O33UTrAMTVPz4tYpcA

spankadelphia
01-26-2016, 12:25 PM
It's like you're rolling with the fallacy you quoted. Who exactly are you implying should use the caution?

"No true Scotsman" applies perfectly to the situation of who is a Muslim.

The fallacy is used to remove from the question, of what are something's defining characteristics, whether that something be an ethnicity, a belief-system, or whatever else - to remove from that question, the very items, characteristics, or qualities in dispute. It is a simplistic fallacy of taking something for granted, begging the question, or assuming something. And therein lies it's appeal: that the assumptions about something's inherent characteristics are usually and often taken for granted.

So for instance, we say that no true Scotsman doesn't wear a kilt, but the question was can a true Scotsman not wear a kilt.

In another instance, we say that no true Muslim blows themselves up or murders people at a restaurant, when the question is: are Muslims blowing shit up and killing people at restaurants? The answer is yes.

So to answer your question: anyone who is not Muslim should exercise caution in the presence of Muslims. This is the life they chose for themselves.

Blake
01-26-2016, 12:45 PM
you're using no true Scotsman to build a giant strawman.

And you choosing a life of shittin your pants when a Muslim walks by is duly noted.

spankadelphia
01-26-2016, 03:36 PM
Would you like to live in a majority Muslim neighborhood? Is that something that might interest you?

Blake
01-26-2016, 06:05 PM
Would you like to live in a majority Muslim neighborhood? Is that something that might interest you?

Golly I'm not sure. What are the cons of living in a Muslim neighborhood ?

TheSanityAnnex
01-26-2016, 06:11 PM
Golly I'm not sure. What are the cons of living in a Muslim neighborhood ?

You have a daughter right?

Blake
01-26-2016, 06:14 PM
You have a daughter right?

Yes.

Second time: what do you propose we do about Islam?

TheSanityAnnex
01-26-2016, 06:24 PM
You're wrong. It's not peculiar to any religious group or nationality, but rather common, even now. Even in the US.

Do share.

TheSanityAnnex
01-26-2016, 06:26 PM
Yes.

Second time: what do you propose we do about Islam?
I propose nothing.

Would you feel comfortable moving into a Muslim neighborhood with your daughter?

Blake
01-26-2016, 07:03 PM
I propose nothing.

Clearly. All you wanna do is whine about Islam.



Would you feel comfortable moving into a Muslim neighborhood with your daughter?

Lol thinking this retarded question is clever.

If the neighborhood is great then no, I don't give a shit about my neighbor's religion. Do you live in a Muslim free zone? Serious question.

TheSanityAnnex
01-26-2016, 07:20 PM
Clearly. All you wanna do is whine about Islam.



Lol thinking this retarded question is clever.

If the neighborhood is great then no, I don't give a shit about my neighbor's religion. Do you live in a Muslim free zone? Serious question.
So you would not move your daughter into a Muslim neighborhood. And yeah I basically live in a Muslim free zone. Can't ever recall even seeing a stereotypical Muslim in all the years I've lived here.

Blake
01-26-2016, 07:25 PM
So you would not move your daughter into a Muslim neighborhood. And yeah I basically live in a Muslim free zone. Can't ever recall even seeing a stereotypical Muslim in all the years I've lived here.

I said I don't care what the religion is of my neighbors.

Do Muslims live in your town?

TheSanityAnnex
01-26-2016, 07:32 PM
I said I don't care what the religion is of my neighbors.

Do Muslims live in your town?
But you do care if the neighborhood is great and a safe place to raise your daughter correct? I'll poll the town tomorrow to get you a Muslim head count but I know it is very very few.

Blake
01-26-2016, 09:19 PM
But you do care if the neighborhood is great and a safe place to raise your daughter correct? I'll poll the town tomorrow to get you a Muslim head count but I know it is very very few.

One is enough to make you shit your pants tho. You'd better move.

TheSanityAnnex
01-26-2016, 11:03 PM
One is enough to make you shit your pants tho. You'd better move.
No.

Second time: But you do care if the neighborhood is great and a safe place to raise your daughter correct?

Blake
01-26-2016, 11:36 PM
No.

Second time: But you do care if the neighborhood is great and a safe place to raise your daughter correct?

Sure. Get to your point so I can lol already.

And you also need to hurry because your time on earth is limited because of the Muslims in your town.

TheSanityAnnex
01-26-2016, 11:42 PM
Sure. Get to your point so I can lol already.
Are the cities that Muslims are going to seeing an increase or decrease in crimes against females?

SpursforSix
01-26-2016, 11:47 PM
Are the cities that Muslims are going to seeing an increase or decrease in crimes against females?

Oooo....I know this one. Increases. Dramatic increases.

MultiTroll
01-27-2016, 12:02 AM
Are the cities that Muslims are going to seeing an increase or decrease in crimes against females?
Here let me speed it up and give the answer from BlakeDumper.
http://mstabosz.com/mywebpage/homework/sportspage/images/owen.jpg (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj2hfmfm8nKAhVL32MKHcqUA28QjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmstabosz.com%2Fmywebpage%2Fhomewo rk%2Fsportspage%2Fdodgeball.html&psig=AFQjCNExC1mh_INHn0qVIkKDHBjktd005g&ust=1453957315857471)
This would be #3?

MultiTroll
01-27-2016, 01:07 AM
Do we know where this dipstick was born?

(Milwaukee)
Samy Mohamed Hamzeh, 23, apparently targeted a Masonic Center in Milwaukee, where he and others had the goal of killing as many as 30 people in an attack that would be "known the world over." The Journal Sentinel says it was the Scottish Rite Masonic Temple in downtown. (http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/fbi-thwarts-mass-shooting-at-milwaukee-masonic-temple-b99659005z1-366609371.html)

Blake
01-27-2016, 11:19 AM
Are the cities that Muslims are going to seeing an increase or decrease in crimes against females?

Don't know, don't care. Your correlation/causation question is retarded for one.

For two, you can't come up with a remedy for your problem. All you can do is avoid these neighborhoods, towns, cities, countries that contain Muslims.

Or walk around in fear with shit stained shorts.

Lol Islamophobes

Blake
01-27-2016, 11:20 AM
Do we know where this dipstick was born?

(Milwaukee)
Samy Mohamed Hamzeh, 23, apparently targeted a Masonic Center in Milwaukee, where he and others had the goal of killing as many as 30 people in an attack that would be "known the world over." The Journal Sentinel says it was the Scottish Rite Masonic Temple in downtown. (http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/fbi-thwarts-mass-shooting-at-milwaukee-masonic-temple-b99659005z1-366609371.html)

What do you want to do about Islam, fabbs

MultiTroll
01-27-2016, 12:36 PM
What do you want to do about Islam, fabbs
Sentence them to hard physical labor that produced goods for others.
Like have them work on an organic vegetable growing farm. Guards would be equipped with electronic stingers on the end of a phallic instrument. Slackerism would thus be kept at a minimal level.

Blake
01-27-2016, 01:05 PM
Sentence them to hard physical labor that produced goods for others.
Like have them work on an organic vegetable growing farm. Guards would be equipped with electronic stingers on the end of a phallic instrument. Slackerism would thus be kept at a minimal level.

So to be clear, you want to put all Muslims in a concentration camp.

MultiTroll
01-27-2016, 01:23 PM
So to be clear, you want to put all Muslims in a concentration camp.
Sophist Chump,
Of course not. Just the offending ones and all who aided/abetted looked the other way like these phony Mosque managers who claim they knew n-o-t-h-i-n-g but end up being linked to terrorists.

I have other uses for them besides the vegetable gardens.

TheSanityAnnex
01-27-2016, 04:35 PM
Don't know, don't care. Your correlation/causation question is retarded for one.

For two, you can't come up with a remedy for your problem. All you can do is avoid these neighborhoods, towns, cities, countries that contain Muslims.

Or walk around in fear with shit stained shorts.

Lol Islamophobes

You do know. And you care about your daughter so it is safe to assume you'd never move into one of these neighborhoods, unless you don't mind her swimming at the community with newly appointed uniformed officers to keep her from being sexually assaulted.

Winehole23
01-28-2016, 11:56 AM
is security against episodic crime worth the possible cost?


Thirty years ago, the European Union’s passport-free Schengen zone (http://www.worldcrunch.com/world-affairs/cracks-in-schengen-as-europe-builds-walls-against-migrants/c1s19103/) came into being. At the time, the International Monetary Fund estimated that the abolition of border controls on the continent would add 1 to 3% to the area's GDP growth. In the most conservative estimate the pact has brought an additional 28 billion euros in economic growth; the sum could realistically be as high as 50 billion.

This is the scale of the kinds of economic benefits that would be lost if more countries were to re-impose border control, thus ending the three decades of free movement in Europe. And even a partial collapse of the zone could harbor significant costs for all.


In this tense and tumultuous time for the European Union as a whole, Schengen is in real danger of disappearing. Buckling under the pressure of the wave of migrants fleeing war and seeking better lives, six nations have “temporarily” reintroduced border controls with other EU members. While allowed for under exceptional circumstances by the agreement (http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX:42000A0922%2801%29), this is the first time in two decades that such a closure has occurred. In the absence of Europe-wide solutions decided at minister-level meetings, more countries could follow suit to protect their security.



http://www.worldcrunch.com/imagescke/upload/images/Capture%20d%E2%80%99e%CC%81cran%202016-01-25%20a%CC%80%2017_45_20.png
Source: Wikimedia Commons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Schengen_Agreement_Labelled_Map_2) Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte, who holds the rotating presidency of the EU for the first half of 2016, has warned that the eurozone has but a few months left to save the treaty from oblivion. He has also proposed a so-called “Schengen Plan B” — a last resort in which the zone could shrink to a core of five or six countries: the Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg, Austria and perhaps France. Amsterdam needs open borders with Germany to maintain the viability of the important port of Rotterdam, but could favor ejecting Italy from the treaty, which it deems too hesitant in its border enforcement.
On the other hand, EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker has warned that any move to end Schengen (http://www.worldcrunch.com/terror-in-france/time-to-close-borders-inside-europe-a-ridiculous-idea/border-controls-eu-visa-travel-terrorism/c23s17963/) would also spell the end of the euro. He may be exaggerating, but simple math tells us that the return of border controls would impose heavy costs on all member countries.


Read the full article: The Multi-Billion-Euro Pricetag Of Shutting Down Schengen (http://www.worldcrunch.com/world-affairs/the-multi-billion-euro-pricetag-of-shutting-down-schengen/c1s20502/#ixzz3yYiX0W7f)

pgardn
01-29-2016, 12:22 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/29/germany-tightens-borders-as-finland-joins-sweden-in-deporting-refugees

Born in the wrong place...

TheSanityAnnex
01-29-2016, 02:48 PM
Little fuckers at it again

http://www.thelocal.se/20160128/staff-at-asylum-centre-attacked-by-rioting-youth

Swedish asylum staff attacked by rioting youth

The employees were only freed when a squad of police cars arrived at the centre and arrested the alleged ringleaders behind the riot.
“There was a violent riot at the accommodation centre for unaccompanied refugee children,” Ingela Crona from the local police in Kalmar told Expressen (http://www.expressen.se/kvallsposten/brak-pa-boende-for-ensamkommande/). “They broke loose, and a total of 19 people banded together and did this.”

According to Expressen, the young men were carrying makeshift weapons.

John Nilsson, also with the local police, told the Barometern (http://www.barometern.se/nyheter/upplopp-pa-flyktingboende/) newspaper that the riot had started after staff refused a request from one of the home’s residents.

"One of them was refused to buy sweets and became furious with the staff member. He collected together around fifteen friends and the staff were forced to shut themselves in while they broke windows and did what they liked."

Police last night seized two of the young men. One, a 16-year-old boy suspected of starting the riot, is still being held. The other has been released.

The local municipality in Emmaboda, near Kalmar, which oversees the home, has moved some of the children to another location to calm down the situation.

Problems at the hundreds of homes for unaccompanied minors which have opened across Sweden over the last year have been drawing more attention this week after one worker, 22-year-old Alexandra Mezher, was stabbed to death at a home in Mölndal, near Gothenburg, on Monday.

Winehole23
01-31-2016, 12:01 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/31/teenage-girl-made-up-migrant-claim-that-caused-uproar-in-germany?CMP=twt_a-world_b-gdnworld

TheSanityAnnex
02-01-2016, 05:05 PM
XdSsJQ-fvOU

boutons_deux
02-01-2016, 06:47 PM
World Shrugs as New Photos of Dead Children Highlight Horror of Migrant Crisis

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/the_slatest/2016/01/30/new_photos_of_dead_children_highlight_horror_of_re fugee_crisis/507524154-graphic-content-a-turkish-gendarme-carries-the-body-of.jpg.CROP.promo-xlarge2.jpg

Almost 40 people drowned, and 75 were rescued, when a boat taking migrants to Greece capsized after hitting rocks.

Among the dead were at least 10 children and the photographs of their lifeless bodies on the rocky beach once again served as a reminder about the ever-rising death toll of the tragedy that has been engulfing Europe.

The photos recalled that of 3-year-old Aylan Kurdi, whose death that was captured on film brought global attention to the crisis.

Global attention, however, seems to be elsewhere now. “The heartbreaking images Saturday met a muted response,” notes the Associated Press (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_EUROPE_MIGRANTS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-01-30-16-51-49), “perhaps a sign that many have grown weary of the unending reports about the suffering of migrants even though the number of people dying at sea is rising.”


http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/01/30/new_photos_of_dead_children_highlight_horror_of_re fugee_crisis.html

Thanks, Repugs. ALL these dead refugees are DIRECTLY caused by your criminal Iraq-for-oil invasion.

TheSanityAnnex
02-01-2016, 07:21 PM
World Shrugs as New Photos of Dead Children Highlight Horror of Migrant Crisis

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/the_slatest/2016/01/30/new_photos_of_dead_children_highlight_horror_of_re fugee_crisis/507524154-graphic-content-a-turkish-gendarme-carries-the-body-of.jpg.CROP.promo-xlarge2.jpg

Almost 40 people drowned, and 75 were rescued, when a boat taking migrants to Greece capsized after hitting rocks.

Among the dead were at least 10 children and the photographs of their lifeless bodies on the rocky beach once again served as a reminder about the ever-rising death toll of the tragedy that has been engulfing Europe.

The photos recalled that of 3-year-old Aylan Kurdi, whose death that was captured on film brought global attention to the crisis.

Global attention, however, seems to be elsewhere now. “The heartbreaking images Saturday met a muted response,” notes the Associated Press (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_EUROPE_MIGRANTS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-01-30-16-51-49), “perhaps a sign that many have grown weary of the unending reports about the suffering of migrants even though the number of people dying at sea is rising.”


http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/01/30/new_photos_of_dead_children_highlight_horror_of_re fugee_crisis.html

Thanks, Repugs. ALL these dead refugees are DIRECTLY caused by your criminal Iraq-for-oil invasion.



You never explained how Repugs were responsible for Syrian refugees.

Winehole23
02-03-2016, 02:33 AM
hysterical overreactions to mass migration and episodic crime have historical dimensions


Schengen doesn’t cover every single EU country. The United Kingdom and Ireland remain outside the Schengen zone, and Croatia, Romania, Bulgaria and Cyprus, all new EU members, are still waiting to join. Switzerland, Norway and Iceland are part of the Schengen zone although they are not EU members. But it does include over 400 million people.


It is a remarkable achievement. You could get into your car in Portugal and drive all the way to Finland via Spain, France, Germany, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia without ever once having to show a passport or identity card. There would not even be anybody in uniform standing at the frontier to wave you past, just a sign by the side of the road saying “Welcome to (Country X)”.


Or rather, that was the situation until last month, when Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Austria re-imposed passport checks at their borders, ports and airports even for travelers arriving from other Schengen zone countries. France acted even earlier, declaring emergency controls on its borders after the terrorist massacre in Paris in November. So now fully half of the EU’s citizens (counting the U.K. and Ireland) live behind real borders again.


The new border controls are alleged to be temporary measures, which the Schengen treaty permits for a maximum of six months in the face of some unspecified emergency. But the refugee emergency is not going to fade away by next July, and the threat of terrorism will persist for the foreseeable future.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2016/02/02/commentary/world-commentary/bidding-goodbye-to-schengen/#.VrGr0ubW7DW

Winehole23
02-03-2016, 03:08 AM
Greeks are also concerned that the reimposition of border controls (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/08/26/europe_s_open_borders_are_in_serious_danger.html) throughout Europe will leave more migrants stranded in the country where they arrive. Austria and Germany, for instance, have been turning away (http://news.yahoo.com/latest-rights-monitor-hungary-asylum-seekers-risk-103353888.html) hundreds of migrants found to be lying about their nationalities and border controls have been going up throughout the Balkans, pushing people back toward Greece. There’s now growing pressure (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/30/greece-threatened-closure-eu-border-dystopia) to seal Greece’s border with Macedonia, which as one expert put it, would effectively “turn Greece into a de facto refugee camp.”http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/02/01/stop_blaming_greece_for_the_refugee_crisis.html

TheSanityAnnex
02-05-2016, 06:50 PM
German spy agency says ISIS sending fighters disguised as refugees

Islamic State militants have slipped into Europe disguised as refugees, the head of Germany's domestic intelligence agency (BfV) said on Friday, a day after security forces thwarted a potential IS attack in Berlin.Hans-Georg Maassen said the terrorist attacks in Paris last November had shown that Islamic State was deliberately planting terrorists among the refugees flowing into Europe.
"Then we have repeatedly seen that terrorists ... have slipped in camouflaged or disguised as refugees. This is a fact that the security agencies are facing," Maassen told ZDF television.

"We are trying to recognize and identify whether there are still more IS fighters or terrorists from IS that have slipped in," he added.
The Berliner Zeitung newspaper cited Maassen on Friday as saying that the BfV had received more than 100 tip-offs that there were Islamic State fighters among the refugees currently staying in Germany.
German fears about an attack have risen since the Paris killings. On Thursday, German forces arrested two men suspected of links to Islamic State militants preparing an attack in the German capital.

Authorities also canceled a friendly international soccer match in Hanover last year and closed stations in Munich at New Year due to security concerns.
Maassen, however, warned against alarm.

"We are in a serious situation and there is a high risk that there could be an attack. But the security agencies, the intelligence services and the police authorities are very alert and our goal is to minimize the risk as best we can," he said.











































































































































http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-security-idUSKCN0VE0XL?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-security-idUSKCN0VE0XL?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews)

Winehole23
02-06-2016, 04:05 AM
unsurprising, guess screening and LE is working or they wouldn't have thwarted it.

TheSanityAnnex
02-06-2016, 12:48 PM
Refugees learn what separates Russia from Cologne
A group of 51 refugees were brutally assaulted outside a night club in Murmansk, Russia, after they groped and molested women at a night club Saturday.

The refugees had previously been ordered to leave Norway (http://www.schweizmagazin.ch/nachrichten/ausland/25932-Murmansk-Tut-uns-leid-Kln-ist-2500-Kilometer-weiter-sdlich-von-hier.html) for “bad behavior” and tried their luck in Russia. What they didn’t realize when they went out clubbing in Murmansk is that Russians have less tolerance when it comes to sexual assault on local women than other European countries.The refugees allegedly groped and harassed women in a similar manner as the assaults in Cologne on New Year’s Eve.

A group of male Russian took them aside to “educate” them that “Cologne is 2,500 kilometers south of here.The refugees tried to flee but were quickly captured by the Russians. They then took them out to the street and gave them a beating they will remember (http://www.imolaoggi.it/2016/02/03/russia-finti-profughi-molestano-le-ragazze-18-finiscono-in-ospedale-e-33-arrestati/). Police arrived to break up the fight but locals report that they threw a few punches at the refugees before arresting 33 of them :lmao
Eighteen refugees were in such bad condition they had to be take to the hospital.Police decided to let the beatings slide and didn’t file a report. The only thing they could confirm was that there was “a mass brawl involving refugees (http://www.hlavnespravy.sk/migranti-na-diskoteke-v-murmansku-obtazovali-miestne-dievcata-18-ich-skoncilo-v-nemocnici-a-33-v-cele/739387).”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/04/refugees-go-clubbing-in-russia-harass-girls-wake-up-in-hospital-the-next-morning/#ixzz3zPYLKb1P

ChumpDumper
02-06-2016, 12:59 PM
How were these people supposed to get into Russia?

lol fifth hand rumors.

Winehole23
03-02-2016, 11:32 AM
controlling borders has a high cost:


Europe could see €28bn wiped off the value of its economies as it faces the imminent collapse of the Schengen system of open borders, according to a leading investment bank.










Up to 0.2pc of the European Union's GDP could be erased as a result of the spiralling costs of cross-border travel and disruption to internal trade that would return in a post-Schengen Europe, Morgan Stanley warned.
The bank's analysts estimate a 5pc surge in the cost of cross-border travel, while trade flows between countries could fall by up to 20pc as border checks and waiting times are reintroduced to Europe.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/03/01/schengen-collapse-is-bigger-economic-threat-to-europe-than-brexi/

Blake
03-02-2016, 11:48 AM
controlling borders has a high cost:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/03/01/schengen-collapse-is-bigger-economic-threat-to-europe-than-brexi/

Maybe they should just build a wall down the middle of Berlin

Winehole23
03-09-2016, 10:42 AM
media crackdown totally notwithstanding, Turkey has the EU over a barrel:



Shopping in a Turkish bazaar is never wise for the novice.


The EU learned that lesson the hard way when it discovered the carefully crafted refugee deal (http://www.politico.eu/article/eu-and-turkey-postpone-deal-on-refugees/) it believed it had sold to Turkish leaders in the run-up to Monday’s summit turned out to be little more than the beginning of the negotiation.





Turkey made Europe a counter offer (http://www.politico.eu/article/turkey-extra-e3-billion-eu-help-refugees-visa-membership/) early Monday that six months ago would have prompted EU negotiators to get up and walk out. To European eyes, the proposal Ankara put on the table read more like a ransom note: €3 billion in refugee aid in addition to the €3 billion already pledged, full-scale visa liberalization for Turkish citizens in the EU by June, an acceleration of Turkey’s application to join the bloc as well as a pledge to resettle many of the Syrian refugees Turkey takes in.

Turkey’s message to Europe was clear: You need us more than we need you.


That Europe is not just considering the Turkish proposal, but is likely to end up accepting most, if not all of it, is testament to the desperation of the Union and its largest member, Germany, to secure a deal to limit the flow of refugees and end a crisis that is testing EU solidarity like nothing in its history.


Angela Merkel (http://www.politico.eu/article/merkologists-explain-merkel-chancellor-germany-elections/), who sees a sweeping agreement with Turkey as the only viable way out of the quagmire, tried into the early hours of Tuesday to cajole her fellow leaders into accepting the framework. In the end, they agreed to delay a decision until the next regular EU summit, scheduled for next week.

http://www.politico.eu/article/turkey-eu-closes-in-on-migration-refugees-crisis-deal-but-at-a-heavy-price/

Winehole23
04-18-2016, 08:48 AM
anti-immigrant hysteria could wreck the European economy:


A permanent return to border controls could lop 470 billion euros ($530 billion) of gross domestic product growth from the European economy over the next 10 years, based on a relatively conservative assumption of costs, according to research (http://news/stories/O2XV2S6JTSEK) published by Germany’s Bertelsmann Foundation. That’s like losing a company almost the size of BMW AG every year for a decade.



The open borders power an economy of more than 400 million people, with 24 million business trips and 57 million cross-border freight transfers happening every year, the European Parliament says (http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/ATAG/2016/579074/EPRS_ATA%282016%29579074_EN.pdf). Firms in Germany’s industrial heartland rely on elaborate, just-in-time supply chains that take advantage of lower costs in Hungary and Poland. French supermarket chains are supplied with fresh produce that speeds north from Spain and Portugal. And trans-national commutes have become commonplace since Europeans can easily choose to, say, live in Belgium and work in France.



For many Europeans, passport-free travel is part of being, simply, European. For the company hiring driver Unczorg, the security checks increase costs in terms of delays, storage and inventory.

Permanent controls would destroy the business model of German industry, says Rainer Hundsdoerfer, chairman of EBM-Papst (http://www.ebmpapst.com/en/).


"You get the products you need for assembly here in Germany just in time," he said by phone. "That’s why the trucks go nonstop. They come here, they unload, they load, and off they go. The cost isn’t the only prime issue” in reinstating border checks. “It’s that we couldn’t even do it."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-17/the-trucker-s-nightmare-that-could-flatten-europe-s-economy

MultiTroll
04-18-2016, 08:59 AM
anti-immigrant hysteria could wreck the European economy:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-17/the-trucker-s-nightmare-that-could-flatten-europe-s-economy
Has an economic cost been put on the last two blowups in Paris and Belgium?

Winehole23
04-18-2016, 09:22 AM
do you have a point?

MultiTroll
04-18-2016, 09:40 AM
I wasn't posting it to counter point your point about increased costs.
Hope Euros do not make it a taxpayer waste such as:
Airport Security: Astoundingly Expensive and 95 Percent Ineffective
ABC News reports that TSA agents failed to detect a threat in 67 out of 70 recent trials (http://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-director-reassigned-wake-security-failures/story?id=31458476). Posing as passengers, U.S. Department of Homeland Security “Red Teams” were able to carry weapons and fake explosives (“simulant” threats) through security checkpoints without any trouble. Former TSA Administrator James Loy, who led the agency in its first year, called the leaked results an “abominable failure.” (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/tsa-airport-security-failure-jeh-johnson-118557.html)

boutons_deux
04-18-2016, 11:42 AM
I wasn't posting it to counter point your point about increased costs.
Hope Euros do not make it a taxpayer waste such as:
Airport Security: Astoundingly Expensive and 95 Percent Ineffective
ABC News reports that TSA agents failed to detect a threat in 67 out of 70 recent trials (http://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-director-reassigned-wake-security-failures/story?id=31458476). Posing as passengers, U.S. Department of Homeland Security “Red Teams” were able to carry weapons and fake explosives (“simulant” threats) through security checkpoints without any trouble. Former TSA Administrator James Loy, who led the agency in its first year, called the leaked results an “abominable failure.” (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/tsa-airport-security-failure-jeh-johnson-118557.html)

I haven't seen any reports over they years that say TSA airport security is anything but performance art, theatre, essentially ineffective.

boutons_deux
04-18-2016, 11:53 AM
what's the problem? Donny T will build a wall around Europe with his name on it.

MultiTroll
04-18-2016, 12:06 PM
what's the problem? Donny T will build a wall around Europe with his name on it.
I don't know why the h the politicians did not take up bazillionaire Egyptian guys offer to buy a large island and house refugees there.

TheSanityAnnex
04-18-2016, 12:57 PM
anti-immigrant hysteria could wreck the European economy:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-17/the-trucker-s-nightmare-that-could-flatten-europe-s-economy

Thanks Merkel

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcScG7iuyXaKZ1KhR9weUhk5aWKz4P1lC vYkI-v9XKqUZmPSgFwyXA

Winehole23
04-18-2016, 01:02 PM
bait and switch to be sure, but pinning blame on one person is a bit simplistic

spankadelphia
04-18-2016, 02:01 PM
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/657646/Russia-SHUTS-DOWN-border-Europe-fears-new-migrant-route-ARCTIC

It's hilarious when Russia uses it's national sovereignty for the good of it's own people and the Eurocrats get their panties in a wad and go "W-what manner of black magic is this? Bour-dehrs? Russia has them, apparently? And they closed them? C-can they just do that?!"

boutons_deux
04-19-2016, 05:38 AM
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/13041077_10150793198379999_8689982728754533449_o.j pg

Thanks, Repugs

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/12998269_10150793198364999_3850404543283509338_o.j pg

Thanks, Repugs

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtl1/t31.0-8/13063486_10150793198324999_2169894747382105710_o.j pg

Thanks, Repugs

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/13041453_10150793198434999_4620899334021860858_o.j pg

Thanks, Repugs

https://www.facebook.com/nytimes/photos/pcb.10150793251599999/10150793198379999/?type=3&theater

Winehole23
04-19-2016, 11:36 AM
boutons blames Republicans

boutons_deux
04-19-2016, 11:55 AM
boutons blames Republicans

no shit. Who invaded Iraq on LYING pretenses and destabilized the Middle East?

TheSanityAnnex
04-19-2016, 01:46 PM
no shit. Who invaded Iraq on LYING pretenses and destabilized the Middle East?

Who toppled Assad?

boutons_deux
04-19-2016, 01:51 PM
Who toppled Assad?

... Assad isn't toppled.

TheSanityAnnex
04-19-2016, 02:43 PM
... Assad isn't toppled.

Who tried to topple Assad and destabilized Syria...repugs?

boutons_deux
04-19-2016, 03:49 PM
Who tried to topple Assad and destabilized Syria...repugs?

The invasion of Iraq destabilized the entire region. Only the Repugs invaded Iraq for oil, recent history you rightwingnuts love to forget.

PNAC/neocon/Repug strategy since the 1990s has been to regime change Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, Egypt, and establish US puppets and US hegemony on the entire region. Has been a total failure, and increased the terrorist risk on USA and Europe. aka, Muslim pushing back on US/EU imperialism.

TheSanityAnnex
04-19-2016, 04:29 PM
The invasion of Iraq destabilized the entire region. Only the Repugs invaded Iraq for oil, recent history you rightwingnuts love to forget.

PNAC/neocon/Repug strategy since the 1990s has been to regime change Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, Egypt, and establish US puppets and US hegemony on the entire region. Has been a total failure, and increased the terrorist risk on USA and Europe. aka, Muslim pushing back on US/EU imperialism.

Who tried to topple Assad and destabilized Syria?

boutons_deux
04-19-2016, 04:37 PM
Who tried to topple Assad and destabilized Syria?

Rural Syrians who were pissed that Assad didn't help them when they were hit by a severe drought.

And no doubt, the Syrian insurgements saw the Arab Springs succeed in some other states, Arab Springs being stimulated by Repugs invading Iraq for oil to topple Saddam.

Iraqi Sunni/Baathist Generals fired by Bremer were the original core of ISIS and gave it professional mgmt and its initial successes.

If the Generals were still running Saddam's army, no ISIS.

TheSanityAnnex
04-19-2016, 04:58 PM
Rural Syrians who were pissed that Assad didn't help them when they were hit by a severe drought.

And no doubt, the Syrian insurgements saw the Arab Springs succeed in some other states, Arab Springs being stimulated by Repugs invading Iraq for oil to topple Saddam.

Iraqi Sunni/Baathist Generals fired by Bremer were the original core of ISIS and gave it professional mgmt and its initial successes.

If the Generals were still running Saddam's army, no ISIS.

Who backed the insurgents?

boutons_deux
04-19-2016, 05:05 PM
Who backed the insurgents?

The USA, with neocon Hillary pushing hard for regime-change, which worked so well in Iraq and Lybia and Egypt and Ukraine.

Winehole23
06-14-2018, 03:58 PM
CRIME WAVE!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-crime-rate-migration-antisemitism-horst-seehofer-a8343226.html

Winehole23
06-20-2018, 05:31 AM
GERMAN IMMIGRANT CRIME WAVE TURNED OUT TO BE FAKE NEWS.












Might still take Merkel down tho.

boutons_deux
06-20-2018, 08:36 AM
Big Picture?

the destabilizing flood of refugees into Europe and Africa, causing nativist white backlash in all those countries, is a direct result of Repugs / BigOil invading Iraq for oil, with national dominoes falling all around, and an infinite, renewable stream of Muslim terrorist orgs.

SpursforSix
06-20-2018, 08:45 AM
Big Picture?

the destabilizing flood of refugees into Europe and Africa, causing nativist white backlash in all those countries, is a direct result of Repugs / BigOil invading Iraq for oil, with national dominoes falling all around, and an infinite, renewable stream of Muslim terrorist orgs.

It’s been the plan for decades. BigPharma behind it all. Start a new batch of contagious diseases. Oh...guess we need some more meds.

Also, the perfect ruse for BigBrother to step in and chip everyone so we know who’s who

FrostKing
12-20-2018, 04:11 AM
Surprise surprise. The fake asylum seekers are staying.

There is absolutely 0 need for a single non-European in the EU. None. Europe doesn't need fruit pickers. There is plenty of Europeans seeking employment within the continent.

https://i.ibb.co/C6qcjhy/Screenshot-2018-12-20-01-03-47-1.png


I'm glad I took the red pill in 2015 and haven't looked back since.

Winehole23
12-20-2018, 09:40 AM
The civil war in Syria was no joke in 2015.

Is it not legit to flee from a war to seek asylum?

Winehole23
12-20-2018, 09:42 AM
Turkey had their hand on the tap in 2015, no unkind words for them? What's with the Germany- bashing?

Chucho
12-20-2018, 11:31 AM
Turkey had their hand on the tap in 2015, no unkind words for them? What's with the Germany- bashing?

Germans = Nazis. Duh.

Winehole23
12-20-2018, 11:50 AM
FK is a Polish patriot, there might be complicated personal feelings too.

Chucho
12-20-2018, 12:45 PM
He's definitely a meathead.

Chucho
12-20-2018, 12:46 PM
The French put up a better resistance to the Nazis than the Poles who basically rolled out the red carpet and all dropped trou as the Nazis took their country in mere hours.

FrostKing
12-20-2018, 02:50 PM
The French put up a better resistance to the Nazis than the Poles who basically rolled out the red carpet and all dropped trou as the Nazis took their country in mere hours.
American "education"

- Poland fought longer
- Poland had a fraction of the resources
- Poland was attacked by 4 nations from 4 directions while France from 1 by 1
- Polands attack started the War, France had nearly a year of planning a defense
- Vichy government....


Again, stop posting about European theater in WW2 americans. Embarrassing yourself. Talk about dropping atomic bombs on women and children.

FrostKing
12-20-2018, 02:57 PM
Turkey had their hand on the tap in 2015, no unkind words for them? What's with the Germany- bashing?
- Merkel invited the World, Germans reelected her
- I was in Berlin this Summer, what does Syrian War have to do with all those Africans
- Germans are harboring (and at times ignorantly financing) terrorist in the EU and are too impotent and self hating to do the dirty work to root it out

Chucho
12-20-2018, 03:02 PM
American "education"

- Poland fought longer
- Poland had a fraction of the resources
- Poland was attacked by 4 nations from 4 directions while France from 1 by 1
- Polands attack started the War, France had nearly a year of planning a defense
- Vichy government....


Again, stop posting about European theater in WW2 americans. Embarrassing yourself. Talk about dropping atomic bombs on women and children.

LOL, France fought a better fight than you Meatheads who went out of your way to take it up the arsehole and are complicit with the Nazi tragedies that occurred on your homeland you basically gave to them.

FrostKing
12-21-2018, 03:52 AM
This is the biggest threat to EU survival. As western europe continues to import, harbor and ignorantly finance terrorist

https://i.ibb.co/JtMvGjg/Screenshot-2018-12-21-00-44-46-1.png

POLAK Orent-Niedzielski fought the shooter and stopped him from entering a crowded club, possibly preventing more deaths

FrostKing
03-23-2019, 12:15 AM
https://i.ibb.co/y6MMtCN/IMG-20190322-WA0010.jpg

Winehole23
03-23-2019, 12:18 AM
the plural of anecdote is not data

Winehole23
05-10-2019, 03:27 PM
Germany not only had room, the broader economy benefitted.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-refugee-intake-boost-economy-ageing-population-unemployment-a8901161.html

FrostKing
05-10-2019, 03:42 PM
Germany not only had room, the broader economy benefitted.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-refugee-intake-boost-economy-ageing-population-unemployment-a8901161.html
Germany is in a Union. There are citizens of the European Union living in poverty

Germans are traitors again


As for boosting the economy, sure walking down the street and breaking every car window will boost sales.

Winehole23
05-10-2019, 03:48 PM
Stop waving your hands and show us the crime wave, FK.

Pavlov
05-10-2019, 03:48 PM
Germany is in a Union. There are citizens of the European Union living in poverty

Germans are traitors again


As for boosting the economy, sure walking down the street and breaking every car window will boost sales.Electrician apprentices are fixing car windows?

FrostKing
05-10-2019, 07:01 PM
Stop waving your hands and show us the crime wave, FK.
Don't bother with any sources from the German government. They won't include crimes committed by illegals into the data. All kinds of that manipulation. According to the data they try and present - Germany is the safest its been since reunification. Talk about over bleaching the crime scene. Only the most gullible of Germans (and lets be honest they are historically some of the most) would believe that

Anyway my sister sent me photos from her youngest daughters kita in Berlin - as I noticed when I visited this past summer: more black faces. And no matter if it is South Africa, New York or London: where blacks populate crime follows them,

FrostKing
05-10-2019, 07:03 PM
Electrician apprentices are fixing car windows?
They had over 1 Million migrants to glamorize and paint to the German public as the typical immigrant and the best they could do was an electrician. As if they couldn't find one in Ukraine

Pavlov
05-10-2019, 07:20 PM
They had over 1 Million migrants to glamorize and paint to the German public as the typical immigrant and the best they could do was an electrician. As if they couldn't find one in Ukraine:lmao "glamorize"

You demand to see a movie star.

Ukrainians generally want to stay in the Ukraine.

Winehole23
12-30-2020, 03:53 AM
Missed this at the time:

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FrostKing
12-30-2020, 04:01 AM
Germany is not yet lost unlike other Western nations. They had over 1 million men from the other side of the World shoved down their throats in one single year. Any other response to this by the German people would lead one to question if current day Germany has anything worthwhile to fight for.

Winehole23
12-30-2020, 04:10 AM
Germany is not yet lost unlike other Western nations. They had over 1 million men from the other side of the World shoved down their throats in one single year. Any other response to this by the German people would lead one to question if current day Germany has anything worthwhile to fight for.German police not framing innocent refugees for terrorist acts planned by the police would cause you to question if Germany has anything worthwhile to fight for? :lol

FrostKing
12-30-2020, 04:21 AM
German police not framing innocent refugees for terrorist acts planned by the police would cause you to question if Germany has anything worthwhile to fight for? :lol
Crimes by refugees are being hidden from public reporting. But Europeans rely on public transportation so they see it everyday on their way to work, kids school or stroll in the park/store.

I'll be back in Berlin this summer to see for myself. There was obvious change 2 years ago.

Spurtacular
12-30-2020, 04:37 AM
Germany not only had room, the broader economy benefitted.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-refugee-intake-boost-economy-ageing-population-unemployment-a8901161.html

Says the globalists who sacrifice their own people.

boutons_deux
12-30-2020, 07:55 AM
Western Europe's refugee tsunami is a direct result of BigOil and its Repug whores lying its way into invading Iraq for oil, destabilizing the M/E.

FrostKing
12-30-2020, 08:04 AM
Western Europe's refuge tsunami is a direct result of BigOil and its Repug whores lying its way into invading Iraq for oil, destabilizing the M/E.
Mostly yes. Hillary did laugh assassinating Gaddafi. President Obama Ok'd it, they had African currency on the way.

But overall Europe should control its own destiny. France did participate. But as a Native I believe we are free to negotiate camps while controlling our borders and I guess based on recent USA relief bill that includes reinforcing our walls. Europe has always had them, just time to update

:tu

FrostKing
12-30-2020, 08:10 AM
https://youtu.be/mlz3-OzcExI

And the migrants come. Libya was the gatekeeper. Well governed and educated African nation.

RandomGuy
12-30-2020, 12:27 PM
Stop waving your hands and show us the crime wave, FK.



[waves hands racist-ly inviting a twisted tea smackdown]

Or not. sad that you don't even try.

RandomGuy
12-30-2020, 12:29 PM
The tale of Franco A.: A far-right terrorism suspect disguised as a refugee

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/the-tale-of-franco-a-a-far-right-terrorism-suspect-disguised-as-a-refugee/

Oops.

RandomGuy
12-30-2020, 12:30 PM
Says the globalists who sacrifice their own people.

Says the Trump ass-kisser who would sacrifice millions to COVID and Trump's incompetence. :lol Smooch harder, brown-nose.

Bogie
12-30-2020, 12:40 PM
Crimes by refugees are being hidden from public reporting. But Europeans rely on public transportation so they see it everyday on their way to work, kids school or stroll in the park/store.

I'll be back in Berlin this summer to see for myself. There was obvious change 2 years ago.


it will be closed, so you’ll have to fly back to America

you’re really bad at lying, and, of course a racist piece of shit.

koriwhat
12-30-2020, 02:12 PM
^ lol everyone's a racist though I might give it to you when it comes to mr frosty.

FrostKing
01-21-2021, 01:17 AM
https://i.ibb.co/09RHzZW/Screenshot-20210120-214512-Chrome.jpg