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TheSanityAnnex
12-31-2015, 11:47 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3378985/Police-Germany-covering-extent-migrant-crime-claim-Bild-country-revealed-taken-1-1-MILLION-people-2015.html


German officials have ordered a cover-up of crimes committed by migrants (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/refugeecrisis) to prevent causing alarm, a local newspaper has claimed.
Asylum seekers are being recruited across the country as cheap drug dealers as well as petty thieves, says German newspaper, Bild - the biggest daily paper in the country.
The paper accused the police of covering up the extent of migrant crimes in order to stop concerns among the general population.
It also claimed asylum seekers were prepared to work for a few euros couriering drugs across the country and said they were being signed up almost as soon as they had registered as asylum seekers.

Migrant crime was apparently the hot topic of discussion at gatherings of police, city officials, health officials and other officials dealing with the drug problem in the city of Frankfurt.
As well as drug related crimes, asylum seekers were also being used to sell stolen goods such as mobile phones, which in many cases were sold on to other refugees.
But the paper said that all of the officials dealing with the problem had been ordered not to talk about it, as it was an extremely sensitive subject that has been forbidden to be referred to in an 'offensive manner'.


The reason given by the paper was to avoid alarming the general public already concerned with the vast number of asylum seekers the country has allowed in, but also to avoid providing material for right-wing extremists.
New arrivals to the country were apparently the most desirable as they did not have any formal way of complaining about what they were asked to do and rarely gave problems to the drug-dealing Mafia.
The most successful couriers are then being recruited into the Mafia and are also being used to bring in further new recruits.
This shocking claim comes as Germany will have registered just over a million migrants by the end of the year, a local paper has claimed.
This is roughly in line with the latest predictions but still about five times more than last year.


As Europe's biggest economy, Germany is a magnet for migrants partly due to generous social benefits and is taking in more refugees from the Middle East and Africa than any other EU state.
Authorities expect about 125,000 asylum seekers to have registered on Germany's EASY system in December, down considerably from 206,000 last month, Saechsische Zeitung reported, citing unpublished government figures.
That brings the overall figure to 1.09 million people.
A spokeswoman for the Interior Ministry declined to confirm the numbers which will be available in early January, but Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere said in a statement the numbers were falling slightly.


Germany's 16 federal states plan to spend about 17 billion euros to deal with the refugee crisis next year, a newspaper reported on Tuesday.
Chancellor Angela Merkel's popularity has waned as a result of her open-door policy, with some of her own conservatives - especially in Bavaria, the entry point for many seeking asylum - seeking a cap on numbers.
In a speech to her party this month she sought to silence critics by saying she would stem the flow of refugees.
De Maiziere said that creation of an orderly processing of refugee applications meant the situation was improving and that authorities were working hard to register and accommodate refugees.
Merkel's government is putting measures in place to speed up deportations of those refused asylum.
It is also pushing other EU countries to take more migrants and to work with Turkey to ensure fewer people come to Europe in the first place.
But de Maiziere rejected demands by Merkel's conservative Christian Social Union (CSU) in Bavaria to ban migrants from entering Germany unless they have valid identity papers.
He said: 'Regarding the CSU demands to send back refugees without valid identity papers, no further changes are planned.'


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rmt
12-31-2015, 12:06 PM
And Merkel was voted Person of the Year? More like she's gonna be the death of Germany as we know it.

CosmicCowboy
12-31-2015, 12:17 PM
And Merkel was voted Person of the Year? More like she's gonna be the death of Germany as we know it.

No shit. 1.09 MILLION in one year?

Winehole23
12-31-2015, 02:27 PM
Without immigration from somewhere, most countries in Europe will start to shrink. Declining GDP and aging populations will change attitudes.

Demographically and economically, Europe needs the immigration and will be better off for it in the long run.

Winehole23
12-31-2015, 02:29 PM
something similar is true for the USA, btw. without immigration, we're gonna shrink.

immigration is a net good. always has been, tbh.

ChumpDumper
12-31-2015, 02:35 PM
lol det font.

TheSanityAnnex
12-31-2015, 02:36 PM
Without immigration from somewhere, most countries in Europe will start to shrink. Declining GDP and aging populations will change attitudes.

Demographically and economically, Europe needs the immigration and will be better off for it in the long run.

This has what to do with the cover up?

TheSanityAnnex
12-31-2015, 02:37 PM
lol det font.

solid take

ChumpDumper
12-31-2015, 02:38 PM
solid takeSolid font.

Accusations!

Winehole23
12-31-2015, 02:41 PM
This has what to do with the cover up?not sure there is one. asking state officials and police not to pass comment on controversial topics in the press isn't quite a cover up -- it's PR somewhat unrelated to the job the police actually do.

TheSanityAnnex
12-31-2015, 02:47 PM
not sure there is one. asking state officials and police not to pass comment on controversial topics in the press isn't quite a cover up -- it's PR somewhat unrelated to the job the police actually do.

business as usual huh

Winehole23
12-31-2015, 03:58 PM
so what's been covered up?

Dirk Oneanddoneski
12-31-2015, 04:30 PM
Without immigration from somewhere, most countries in Europe will start to shrink. Declining GDP and aging populations will change attitudes.

Demographically and economically, Europe needs the immigration and will be better off for it in the long run.

Better off under sharia law really? There's over 1 billion chinks, another billion Indians, Mexicans they could've allowed in as immigrants and no Germans would've been killed for going to a different church.

Dirk Oneanddoneski
12-31-2015, 04:30 PM
so what's been covered up?

All the gang rapes and murders

ChumpDumper
12-31-2015, 05:21 PM
All the gang rapes and murders
Your evidence?

mingus
12-31-2015, 09:10 PM
The usage of the word "crime" is important here. Crime is a problem virtually anywhere in the world inhabited by humans.

However the only way to diagnose/paint it as a problem among refugees is by looking at the crime rate. If it's abnormally high, even after taking into consideration refugee environmental factors that probably make it more of a likelihood, then we can call it a refugee crime problem. Until we know that (where are the numbers?), it's just a problem like it is anywhere else, and painting it as a "refugee problem" would be (politically) arbitrary and wouldn't make much actual sense other than to gin up fear/xenophobia.

So, where are the numbers?

Winehole23
01-01-2016, 08:07 AM
Better off under sharia law really? There's over 1 billion chinks, another billion Indians, Mexicans they could've allowed in as immigrants and no Germans would've been killed for going to a different church.Sharia law in Germany? Whatever you're on, bring enough for everyone to share. You barely make sense.

TheSanityAnnex
01-05-2016, 05:00 PM
so what's been covered up?

http://www.thelocal.de/20160104/refugees-blamed-for-mass-sexual-assault-in-cologne

Around 60 complaints have been made to the police in Cologne after a group of around 1,000 men attacked revellers in the city centre in a brutal and “completely unheard of” way, Wolfgang Albers, Chief of Police in the Rhineland city said at a press conference on Monday afternoon. Around a third of the complaints were of sexual assault, regional paper Express reported. (http://www.express.de/koeln/koelner-hbf-sexuelle-uebergriffe--ausgangspunkt-war-eine-gruppe-von-1000-maennern--23253360)
“There was a very large number of sexual assaults there - and in a massive way. Women were grabbed and attacked,” said Albers, adding that in one case the alleged crime fitted the legal definition of rape.
“The crimes were committed by a group of people who from appearance were largely from the north African or Arab world,” the police chief added.
But the police have also insisted that many of the men had been known to them for some time and that they were not a group of newly-arrived refugees.
A group of around 500 men between the ages of 15 and 35 assembled at the central train station and in the area of the cathedral before throwing firecrackers into the masses of people celebrating the arrival of the new year.
This appears to have been a means of causing distraction, as during the disturbance groups of young men entered the crowd where they sexually assaulted women and pick-pocketed revellers.
Police then carried out a large-scale operation to clear the area of the miscreants, involving 143 local police officers and a further 70 federal officers. But due to the darkness and the sheer scale of people, Albers conceded that this operation was less than effective.
On Sunday police arrested five men at the central station who were accused of threatening and robbing female travellers. It is not yet clear whether these men are connected to the earlier crimes.
Cologne mayor Henriette Reker called for a crisis meeting to be held on Tuesday in the wake of the attacks, reports the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung. (http://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/kriminalitaet/gewerkschaft-der-polizei-geschockt-ueber-angriffe-auf-frauen-in-koeln-in-der-silvesternacht-13996697.html#GEPC;s30)
“We can’t let it happen that an area beyond the law develops here,” she said.
Accusations of cover-up
As the extent of the crimes emerged on Monday, the story became the central theme of Twitter with #Köln and #aufschrei (outcry) both ranking in the top five hashtags.
ANALYSIS: Silence on sex crimes will make racism worse (http://www.thelocal.de/20160105/brushing-sexual-assault-under-the-carpet-is-foolish)
Many people accused the national media of engaging in a cover-up due to the ethnic background of the criminals, with many pointing to the fact that it took days before the details of the story reached national attention.
One commentator wrote sarcastically that “it is fascinating that the event in Cologne on New Year made it through the media censorship.”
Another person tweeted that “the public broadcasters aren’t reporting the events of Cologne… Says it all - educational mission and all that!”

#Köln (https://twitter.com/hashtag/K%C3%B6ln?src=hash) Die GEZ Sender melden die Vorfälle der Silvesternacht nicht ... Sagt ja alles, Bildungsauftrag und so! #ARD (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ARD?src=hash) #ZDF (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ZDF?src=hash)
— Simon Menz (@Oberbuxe) January 4, 2016 (https://twitter.com/Oberbuxe/status/684073433718747136) Other Twitter users worried that the attacks would lead to a backlash against refugees, writing “it makes me sad that the refugees who really need protection will bear the brunt of the hatred because of Cologne. We need to be able to tell the difference.”
MP Steffan Bilger from Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union, meanwhile, claimed the events in Cologne were proof Germany needed to reduce its intake of refugees.
“It can’t go on like this,” he tweeted. “Urgently needed: reduction of influx, secure borders, intensifying of deportations and meaningful justice.”



Writing for the Huffington Post Deutschland, (http://www.huffingtonpost.de/anabel-schunke/koeln-sexuelle-uebergriffe-medienversagen_b_8911050.html)Anabel Schunke accused the police of covering up details about the suspected criminals in order to protect public order.
Questioning why no details were given on the appearance of the suspects when police called for witnesses, despite plentiful CCTV footage, Schunke suggested that police chose to leave important details out so that the public would not make a connection between the crime and refugees.
In its details, the case is reminiscent of the mass sexual assaults which took place in north Africa during the huge Arab Spring protests of 2011-2013, Schunke points out, writing of her concern that so many people are moving to Germany from “patriarchal, Muslim societies.”

Dirk Oneanddoneski
01-05-2016, 09:37 PM
-3MvinY66r0

boutons_deux
01-05-2016, 11:12 PM
Thanks, Repugs!

TheSanityAnnex
01-05-2016, 11:31 PM
Thanks, Repugs!
:cry repugs force them to act like animals :cry

pgardn
01-05-2016, 11:39 PM
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/refugee-debate-in-germany-needs-more-nuance-a-1067761.html

TheSanityAnnex
01-06-2016, 12:00 AM
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/refugee-debate-in-germany-needs-more-nuance-a-1067761.html
All that and the guy doesn't even tell the story how wants others to. Waste of space.

rmt
01-06-2016, 12:41 AM
-3MvinY66r0

Disgusting - this man and his friends should be in jail and see what they do to them in there.

boutons_deux
01-06-2016, 05:10 AM
:cry repugs force them to act like animals :cry

Repugs created the refugee crisis by invading Iraq for oil.

and of course US military and US mercenaries raped and murdered Muslims "like animals".

rmt
01-06-2016, 06:29 PM
The police say they have received more than 90 complaints of robbery and sexual assault, including two accounts of rape, involving groups of men who surrounded young women in the crush of revelers.

By Wednesday, Ms. Reker was being widely ridiculed by commentators and across social media for putting the onus on the victims of the attacks.

“It is always possible to keep a certain distance that is longer than an arm’s length,” Ms. Reker told reporters on Tuesday, suggesting that city authorities would provide guidelines for young women who find themselves surrounded by aggressive men attempting to grope them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/07/world/europe/cologne-mayor-henriette-reker-germany-sexual-assaults.html

TheSanityAnnex
01-06-2016, 06:39 PM
The police say they have received more than 90 complaints of robbery and sexual assault, including two accounts of rape, involving groups of men who surrounded young women in the crush of revelers.

By Wednesday, Ms. Reker was being widely ridiculed by commentators and across social media for putting the onus on the victims of the attacks.

“It is always possible to keep a certain distance that is longer than an arm’s length,” Ms. Reker told reporters on Tuesday, suggesting that city authorities would provide guidelines for young women who find themselves surrounded by aggressive men attempting to grope them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/07/world/europe/cologne-mayor-henriette-reker-germany-sexual-assaults.html

:lol @ the COC women are supposed to follow around "refugees". Europe is fucked.

pgardn
01-06-2016, 06:41 PM
All that and the guy doesn't even tell the story how wants others to. Waste of space.

Its just a German editorial fathead

pgardn
01-06-2016, 07:54 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/tensions-rise-in-germany-over-handling-of-mass-sexual-assaults-in-cologne

rmt
01-06-2016, 09:23 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/tensions-rise-in-germany-over-handling-of-mass-sexual-assaults-in-cologne

So they bring in over 1 million refugees last year and these episodes happen in several cities and the left says there's no proof that they were caused by refugees. Is it just coincidence or has this happened before?

Dirk Oneanddoneski
01-06-2016, 10:18 PM
This is a big story even German liberals are starting to turn. Cologne is a big time liberal/gay city in Germany and unfortunately it seems liberals need to be robbed, raped, blown up or murdered before they finally get it.

An experienced police officer has revealed that 14 of the 15 culprits arrested so far who were involved in the mass sexual molestation of women in Cologne on New Years Eve were newly arrived Syrian migrants.
In an interview with Express.de, the officer reveals that 15 men were arrested, of whom 14 were from Syria and one was from Afghanistan. The men had arrived in Germany within the last few days or weeks, according to the officer.



Evidence of a police cover up is already unraveling. Authorities issued a press release on New Years Day claiming the previous night was “peaceful” and without incident. It took the German media days to report on the story, with top broadcaster ZDF later apologizing for the delay.

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&nv=1&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.express.de/koeln/polizei-fuehrer-berichtet-meine-nacht-mit-dem-brutalen-mob-23315166&usg=ALkJrhg8cVIWs9EsYOwNDIXCdd_lR6n2oQ

TheSanityAnnex
01-06-2016, 10:35 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/tensions-rise-in-germany-over-handling-of-mass-sexual-assaults-in-cologne

Their entire way of life is changing right in front of them. They'll be the minority to a violent 17th century culture in a few generations.

TheSanityAnnex
01-06-2016, 10:36 PM
This is a big story even German liberals are starting to turn. Cologne is a big time liberal/gay city in Germany and unfortunately it seems liberals need to be robbed, raped, blown up or murdered before they finally get it.

An experienced police officer has revealed that 14 of the 15 culprits arrested so far who were involved in the mass sexual molestation of women in Cologne on New Years Eve were newly arrived Syrian migrants.
In an interview with Express.de, the officer reveals that 15 men were arrested, of whom 14 were from Syria and one was from Afghanistan. The men had arrived in Germany within the last few days or weeks, according to the officer.



Evidence of a police cover up is already unraveling. Authorities issued a press release on New Years Day claiming the previous night was “peaceful” and without incident. It took the German media days to report on the story, with top broadcaster ZDF later apologizing for the delay.

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&nv=1&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.express.de/koeln/polizei-fuehrer-berichtet-meine-nacht-mit-dem-brutalen-mob-23315166&usg=ALkJrhg8cVIWs9EsYOwNDIXCdd_lR6n2oQ
Thanks Merkel!

pgardn
01-06-2016, 10:40 PM
So they bring in over 1 million refugees last year and these episodes happen in several cities and the left says there's no proof that they were caused by refugees. Is it just coincidence or has this happened before?

I am sharing German news, I have yet to comment on this subject.
There is a saying...

Dont shoot the regnessem.

TheSanityAnnex
01-06-2016, 10:44 PM
Your evidence?
I assume 90 on one night is enough to satisfy you?

rmt
01-06-2016, 10:52 PM
I am sharing German news, I have yet to comment on this subject.
There is a saying...

Dont shoot the regnessem.

Pgardn, sorry - I didn't mean to target you (especially since you are a fair poster). They were comments made after coming out of your link - I shouldn't have reply with quote but made a separate reply.

rmt
01-06-2016, 11:00 PM
Their entire way of life is changing right in front of them. They'll be the minority to a violent 17th century culture in a few generations.

Yep. Very sad. This is what happens when you don't first consider your own people. Compassion is fine, but something on this scale is a recipe for disaster. Immigration must be controlled - let in some, ASSIMILATE fully, let in some more, rinse and repeat. Those who are let in must be willing to accept your way of life - become Germans (language, culture, etc).

ChumpDumper
01-06-2016, 11:59 PM
I assume 90 on one night is enough to satisfy you?Ninety rapes or ninety murders?

Or both?

Winehole23
01-07-2016, 10:23 AM
I still don't see the cover up. Are police supposed to publicize unsolved crimes, or is that the job of a vigilant press?

At any rate, nothing was covered up. While pointing the finger at recent immigrants might be a reasonable inference, since none of the NYE perps got caught, it would be irresponsible for the police to speculate publicly about who was responsible.

Winehole23
01-07-2016, 10:24 AM
and frankly, TSA, you don't know who did it either.

TheSanityAnnex
01-07-2016, 10:35 AM
I still don't see the cover up. Are police supposed to publicize unsolved crimes, or is that the job of a vigilant press?

At any rate, nothing was covered up. While pointing the finger at recent immigrants might be a reasonable inference, since none of the NYE perps got caught, it would be irresponsible for the police to speculate publicly about who was responsible.

Not sure who's got the bigger semen shield you or chump.

vy65
01-07-2016, 10:38 AM
“I am Syrian. You have to treat me kindly. Mrs Merkel invited me"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/12086473/Suspects-in-Cologne-sex-attacks-claimed-to-be-Syrian-refugees.html

Winehole23
01-07-2016, 10:44 AM
Not sure who's got the bigger semen shield you or chump.Dirty mind, no topical reply. Very typical TSA post.

Winehole23
01-07-2016, 10:46 AM
“I am Syrian. You have to treat me kindly. Mrs Merkel invited me"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/12086473/Suspects-in-Cologne-sex-attacks-claimed-to-be-Syrian-refugees.htmlok, that's pertinent. some of the suspects were refugees.

what of it?

Winehole23
01-07-2016, 10:47 AM
where's the cover up?

vy65
01-07-2016, 10:59 AM
ok, that's pertinent. some of the suspects were refugees.

what of it?

^ Didn't bother reading the article methinks.

TheSanityAnnex
01-07-2016, 12:00 PM
^ Didn't bother reading the article methinks.

Didn't bother reading multiple articles methinks.

ChumpDumper
01-07-2016, 01:21 PM
Didn't bother reading multiple articles methinks.


Ninety rapes or ninety murders?

Or both?

Winehole23
01-07-2016, 02:04 PM
^ Didn't bother reading the article methinks.I asked you for your take. Do you have one?

Winehole23
01-07-2016, 02:05 PM
Didn't bother reading multiple articles methinks.Read em all.

Winehole23
01-07-2016, 02:07 PM
are police required to publicize their investigations before perps are even indicted?

Winehole23
01-07-2016, 02:32 PM
Koln police got caught with their pants down, weren't able to deal with what happened, were tight-lipped about it afterwards, and tried to cover their asses. is that what y'all mean by cover up?

vy65
01-07-2016, 02:46 PM
I asked you for your take. Do you have one?

I found the alleged statement noteworthy. Don't you?

TheSanityAnnex
01-07-2016, 03:45 PM
ok, that's pertinent. some of the suspects were refugees.

what of it?
Some? lol
What of it? lol

How much longer can you bury your head in the sand?

Winehole23
01-07-2016, 10:06 PM
About what?

Winehole23
01-07-2016, 10:08 PM
I found the alleged statement noteworthy. Don't you?

Probative, no. Do you, Mr. Lawyer man?

Winehole23
01-07-2016, 10:10 PM
Mass immigration is messy. Anyone could have guessed that.

vy65
01-07-2016, 10:20 PM
Probative, no. Do you, Mr. Lawyer man?

Can you answer the question? Or are you only capable of snark?

FuzzyLumpkins
01-07-2016, 10:24 PM
Wine I see your argument. Police restraint in accusations is something I would like to see more around here.

They are obviously not going to argue on merit and are doing the typical dissembling. You answered the question by telling him that the statement proves nothing. Mr Lawyer man indeed. They make quite the pair when they get going.

Winehole23
01-07-2016, 10:34 PM
Can you answer the question? Or are you only capable of snark?newsworthy certainly. More? Not yet.

Winehole23
01-07-2016, 10:35 PM
Going off half cocked is more your forte.

vy65
01-07-2016, 10:36 PM
newsworthy certainly. More? Not yet.

:tu

Winehole23
01-07-2016, 10:39 PM
Wine I see your argument. Police restraint in accusations is something I would like to see more around here.

They are obviously not going to argue on merit and are doing the typical dissembling. You answered the question by telling him that the statement proves nothing. Mr Lawyer man indeed. They make quite the pair when they get going.
What merits? The investigation hasn't been completed.

Winehole23
01-07-2016, 10:49 PM
:tu

So we agree for the moment.

Winehole23
01-07-2016, 10:51 PM
The predilection on this board is to disagree no matter what.

Dirk Oneanddoneski
01-07-2016, 11:44 PM
http://i.imgur.com/vvJsPak.jpg

FuzzyLumpkins
01-08-2016, 03:57 AM
What merits? The investigation hasn't been completed.

I was referring to you answering his question and him trying the dissembling tactic of saying you hadn't. That is the merit counselor crayola actually argues. You were repeating yourself ad nauseum trying to get him to acknowledge your point so I figured I would lend some support because I think you are right.

I actually like the German's restraint in accusations. I'm watching Making a Murderer and wish this country had less of that and more of what they have. Sorry for the confusion, I can see I phrased that poorly.

FlAVaK
01-08-2016, 04:32 AM
where's the cover up?

here (http://www.tagesschau.de/inland/uebergriffe-111.html)


Wie der "Kölner Stadtanzeiger" berichtet, sollen leitende Beamte bewusst die Herkunft der Menschen verschwiegen haben, die im Umfeld des Hauptbahnhof kontrolliert worden waren. Es sei ihnen politisch heikel erschienen, schreibt das Blatt.

Quick translation: "Leading police authorities knowingly kept quiet about the origin of the suspects, because they thought revealing this information would have been politically dangerous."

Multiple suspects were found with asylum papers saying they would be from Syria. It should be noted that a lot of asylum seekers from other countries got rid of their passports and claimed they are from Syria, because they hope to have more advantages than otherwise...

vy65
01-08-2016, 10:51 AM
So we agree for the moment.

For the moment yes. Unlike others on here, I don't need to hear the sound of my own voice by unnecessarily disagreeing for the sake of unnecessary disagreement.

TheSanityAnnex
01-08-2016, 01:51 PM
here (http://www.tagesschau.de/inland/uebergriffe-111.html)



Quick translation: "Leading police authorities knowingly kept quiet about the origin of the suspects, because they thought revealing this information would have been politically dangerous."

Multiple suspects were found with asylum papers saying they would be from Syria. It should be noted that a lot of asylum seekers from other countries got rid of their passports and claimed they are from Syria, because they hope to have more advantages than otherwise...

Mainstream media also covered it up by not reporting until days after.

ChumpDumper
01-08-2016, 03:32 PM
Mainstream media also covered it up by not reporting until days after.If the police weren't talking, how could they have reported it?

TheSanityAnnex
01-08-2016, 03:40 PM
If the police weren't talking, how could they have reported it?

One of your stupider questions. I'll let you figure out how one of the hundred victims or one of thousands of witnesses might have spoken to the media before it was reported 4 days later.

ChumpDumper
01-08-2016, 03:52 PM
One of your stupider questions. I'll let you figure out how one of the hundred victims or one of thousands of witnesses might have spoken to the media before it was reported 4 days later.Did they?

ChumpDumper
01-08-2016, 03:56 PM
And TSA, don't forget you bitched out of this question twice:
Ninety rapes or ninety murders?

Or both?

TheSanityAnnex
01-08-2016, 04:47 PM
Did they?

Yes. Already posted here.

TheSanityAnnex
01-08-2016, 04:49 PM
And TSA, don't forget you bitched out of this question twice:

Another stupid question ignored, it was clear I was talking about the 90+ sexual assaults on NYE.

ChumpDumper
01-08-2016, 05:14 PM
Yes. Already posted here.When did they speak to the press and when was it reported? Give dates.


Another stupid question ignored, it was clear I was talking about the 90+ sexual assaults on NYE.So neither rape nor murder, since only one rape was reported.

It's clear you were Breitbarting again.

ChumpDumper
01-08-2016, 05:17 PM
All the gang rapes and murders


Your evidence?


I assume 90 on one night is enough to satisfy you?See -- it wasn't clear at all, Breitbart.

TheSanityAnnex
01-08-2016, 06:08 PM
When did they speak to the press and when was it reported? Give dates.You can find that in the multiple articles that have been posted, I don't care enough to look for you.


So neither rape nor murder, since only one rape was reported.

It's clear you were Breitbarting again.

I never mentioned either.

rmt
01-08-2016, 10:49 PM
German phrasebook found on asylum seeker sex attack suspect in Cologne included lurid phrases such as 'nice breasts' and 'I want to have sex with you'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3390337/Nice-breasts-want-sex-Arabic-phrasebook-asylum-seeker-sex-attack-suspect-Cologne-virtual-lockdown-women-frightened-alone.html

Th'Pusher
01-09-2016, 12:14 AM
For the moment yes. Unlike others on here, I don't need to hear the sound of my own voice by unnecessarily disagreeing for the sake of unnecessary disagreement.
:lol you disagree for the sake of argument all the time. It's why you're constantly being logically dismantled in every conversation you participate. I've literally never seen you win an argument.

ChumpDumper
01-09-2016, 02:50 AM
You can find that in the multiple articles that have been posted, I don't care enough to look for you.It was not.




I never mentioned either.That's what was being talked about, you idiot.

Are you really so stupid you can't follow a simple conversation.

Well you already answered.

vy65
01-09-2016, 05:08 PM
:lol you disagree for the sake of argument all the time. It's why you're constantly being logically dismantled in every conversation you participate. I've literally never seen you win an argument.

Lol. The irony here is borderline unbearable.

FuzzyLumpkins
01-09-2016, 05:10 PM
Lol. The irony here is borderline unbearable.

Sure thing, counselor crayola.

vy65
01-09-2016, 05:25 PM
Sure thing, counselor crayola.

You're pretty edgy man.

TheSanityAnnex
01-09-2016, 05:36 PM
It was not.



Your laziness once again on full display. From this very thread.

"The events have since come to dominate German media, but following a barrage of complaints on social media that the New Year’s Eve events were deliberately under-reported amid fears they would encourage anti-immigrant sentiment, Germany’s public broadcaster, ZDF, was forced to apologise for its decision not to report on the attacks until Tuesday, four days after they had occurred.“The news situation was clear enough,” the show’s deputy chief editor, Elmar Thevessen, wrote on the Heute (Today) programme’s Facebook page. “It was a mistake of the 7pm Heute show not to at least report the incidents.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/tensions-rise-in-germany-over-handling-of-mass-sexual-assaults-in-cologne

TheSanityAnnex
01-09-2016, 06:30 PM
More sexual assaults by Muslims on NYE.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/08/europe/europe-new-year-alleged-violence/index.html

ChumpDumper
01-09-2016, 06:37 PM
Your laziness once again on full display. From this very thread.

"The events have since come to dominate German media, but following a barrage of complaints on social media that the New Year’s Eve events were deliberately under-reported amid fears they would encourage anti-immigrant sentiment, Germany’s public broadcaster, ZDF, was forced to apologise for its decision not to report on the attacks until Tuesday, four days after they had occurred.“The news situation was clear enough,” the show’s deputy chief editor, Elmar Thevessen, wrote on the Heute (Today) programme’s Facebook page. “It was a mistake of the 7pm Heute show not to at least report the incidents.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/tensions-rise-in-germany-over-handling-of-mass-sexual-assaults-in-cologneThat didn't answer my question, but feel free to pout more.

TheSanityAnnex
01-09-2016, 06:52 PM
Mainstream media also covered it up by not reporting until days after.




If the police weren't talking, how could they have reported it?



Germany’s public broadcaster, ZDF, was forced to apologise for its decision not to report on the attacks until Tuesday, four days after they had occurred.“The news situation was clear enough,” the show’s deputy chief editor, Elmar Thevessen, wrote on the Heute (Today) programme’s Facebook page. “It was a mistake of the 7pm Heute show not to at least report the incidents.”

ChumpDumper
01-09-2016, 06:56 PM
When did they speak to the press and when was it reported? Give dates.lol Breitbart.

TheSanityAnnex
01-09-2016, 06:59 PM
lol Breitbart.lol abandoning the claim that the press couldn't report on it because the police weren't yet talking.

ChumpDumper
01-09-2016, 07:06 PM
lol abandoning the claim that the press couldn't report on it because the police weren't yet talking.It wasn't a claim, Breitbart.

I asked a question.

And you still haven't answered the one I just repeated.

TheSanityAnnex
01-09-2016, 07:19 PM
It wasn't a claim, Breitbart.

I asked a question.

And you still haven't answered the one I just repeated.
Elmar Thevessen has answered your question twice already.

ChumpDumper
01-09-2016, 07:25 PM
Elmar Thevessen has answered your question twice already. No, Breitbart.

TheSanityAnnex
01-09-2016, 08:48 PM
Confirmed refugees
Confirmed police cover up
Confirmed media cover up

three strikes for certain posters ITT lol

Th'Pusher
01-09-2016, 08:53 PM
Lol. The irony here is borderline unbearable.

Whats ironic about it? You argue bullshit positions all the time...and lose. You also over post Maynard and Marylyn Manson :lol you're honestly the pinnacle Dallas lawyer douche and I know some pretty ridiculous Dallas lawyers.

vy65
01-09-2016, 08:56 PM
Whats ironic about it? You argue bullshit positions all the time...and lose. You also over post Maynard and Marylyn Manson :lol you're honestly the pinnacle Dallas lawyer douche and I know some pretty ridiculous Dallas lawyers.

Lotsa wrong in this post per the par. For one, I don't live in Dallas anymore, but why do you know all these details about me? Aren't you a grown ass man? Why do you remember my musical preferences?

You do realize you sound like a bitter scorned female. I'm not sure what I did to make you so asshurt, sweetie, but whatever it is, I'm sorry.

Th'Pusher
01-09-2016, 09:04 PM
Lotsa wrong in this post per the par. For one, I don't live in Dallas anymore, but why do you know all these details about me? Aren't you a grown ass man? Why do you remember my musical preferences?

You do realize you sound like a bitter scorned female. I'm not sure what I did to make you so asshurt, sweetie, but whatever it is, I'm sorry.
You've just always stood out as a douche to me. I always found your inability to argue a point amusing considering your profession. Be honest, how many times have you seen Marylyn Manson? :lol

vy65
01-09-2016, 09:07 PM
You've just always stood out as a douche to me. I always found your inability to argue a point amusing considering your profession. Be honest, how many times have you seen Marylyn Manson? :lol

Seriously, why do you know and remember all these details about me. Can you not see how fucking sad and pathetic that is?

vy65
01-09-2016, 09:08 PM
How old are you Pusher? If it's anything over 15, you're gonna be in the running for saddest human being I've had contact with on this board, Boutons included.

Th'Pusher
01-09-2016, 09:10 PM
Seriously, why do you know and remember all these details about me. Can you not see how fucking sad and pathetic that is?
I have a decent memory. Sue me. I'm sure you'd lose :lol

vy65
01-09-2016, 09:37 PM
I have a decent memory. Sue me. I'm sure you'd lose :lol

I haven't lived in Dallas for years. That you remember shit like this and for that long -- for posters on a Spurs message board -- makes me really sad for you.

TheSanityAnnex
01-10-2016, 05:44 PM
Cologne Mayor Henriette Reker suggested Friday that police had withheld information from her, including on the origin of suspects. She said that her 'trust in the Cologne police leadership is significantly shaken.'

Government spokesman Georg Streiter said the chancellor wants 'the whole truth' about the events in Cologne and 'nothing should be held back and nothing should be glossed over.'

TheSanityAnnex
01-10-2016, 05:45 PM
Women told not to leave house alone in wake of attacks
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/austrian-police-chief-tells-women-not-to-leave-home-alone-a6803981.html

TheSanityAnnex
01-10-2016, 05:51 PM
http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s679/thefuzzylumpkins/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdqsrtbbj.jpeg
http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s679/thefuzzylumpkins/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps8pjimxzx.jpg

rmt
01-10-2016, 09:14 PM
Women told not to leave house alone in wake of attacks
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/austrian-police-chief-tells-women-not-to-leave-home-alone-a6803981.html

Terrible - western women having to change their behavior to accommodate these refugees. Have people no common sense. When there is such a clash of culture, how can people continue to allow more refugees in? First your women, then it'll be violence against gays. Seems like being an island is saving Great Britain again even with the refugees trying to jump on top of trucks crossing the channel. EU's laws will be used against them - why do they allow their laws to apply to refugees? They should do like Jordan (which iirc), has them in camps, does not allow them to work/integrate. Is this all for cheap labor and diversity?

mingus
01-10-2016, 11:10 PM
Terrible - western women having to change their behavior to accommodate these refugees. Have people no common sense. When there is such a clash of culture, how can people continue to allow more refugees in? First your women, then it'll be violence against gays. Seems like being an island is saving Great Britain again even with the refugees trying to jump on top of trucks crossing the channel. EU's laws will be used against them - why do they allow their laws to apply to refugees? They should do like Jordan (which iirc), has them in camps, does not allow them to work/integrate. Is this all for cheap labor and diversity?

Sure, the treatment of women in the ME is pathetic compared to the West--as an example, in certain countries in the ME, spousal rape isn't illegal; you can also look at the Qatif rape case in Saudi Arabia--but I'm not sure you can blame culture here without proof. There's lots of potential reasons someone rapes. When a man here, in the U.S. rapes someone, we don't blame it on "U.S. culture". That's stupid. Hopefully an investigation takes place that can give authorities the answer as to why they happened to try and stop it in the future. But throwing hundreds of thousands of people under the bus by calling there culture incompatible with ours is stultifying to me since millions of Muslims around the world, and here in the U.S., have already adapted & thrived here. Neither your paranoia or slander reflects reality.

In any case, what with these rape cases & the successful and foiled terrorist plots in Europe, it's hard to argue against the notion that Europe's refugee & immigrant system could have done and could be doing a better job. I think the vetting, surveillance & maybe even policing is not where it needs to be.

boutons_deux
01-10-2016, 11:27 PM
"the treatment of women in the ME is pathetic"

the treatment of the ME by USA is a war crime.

Germany and other countries inundated by ME refugees say "Thanks, Repugs!"

TheSanityAnnex
01-11-2016, 12:52 AM
"the treatment of women in the ME is pathetic"

the treatment of the ME by USA is a war crime.

Germany and other countries inundated by ME refugees say "Thanks, Repugs!"


Did the USA's treatment of the ME cause the ME men to treat their women worse than dogs?

boutons_deux
01-11-2016, 06:01 AM
Did the USA's treatment of the ME cause the ME men to treat their women worse than dogs?

It's their country, their culture, not our problem.

"God-preferred, Christian" Repug America invading, destabilizing their countries is America's responsibility, but notice America chickens out and dumps their ME refugees on other countries.

"Why Do They Hate Us?"

DarrinS
01-11-2016, 05:53 PM
Sweden too?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/11/swedish-police-accused-cover-up-sex-attacks-refugees-festival?CMP=edit_2221

TheSanityAnnex
01-11-2016, 06:11 PM
Sweden too?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/11/swedish-police-accused-cover-up-sex-attacks-refugees-festival?CMP=edit_2221
chump and whinehole denial coming shortly

ChumpDumper
01-11-2016, 06:55 PM
chump and whinehole denial coming shortlylol the Breitbart twins are really happy there are more attacks.

ChumpDumper
01-11-2016, 07:01 PM
There were 20 reports of assault or harassment at the festival in 2015, Ticoalu said, but no evidence of any ethnic dimension to the attackers....

....Separately, police in Malmö, Sweden’s third city, said that on New Year’s Eve gangs of young men surrounded women and molested them.

A couple of hundred men, described as “unaccompanied from Afghanistan”, were involved in what was “a new phenomenon”, a police spokesperson told the Sydsvenskan newspaper. No women made a formal complaint, police said.So what actually happened here?

TheSanityAnnex
01-11-2016, 08:15 PM
lol the Breitbart twins are really happy there are more attacks.
right on cue

TheSanityAnnex
01-11-2016, 08:26 PM
So what actually happened here?
Why did you edit your cut and paste like that?

rmt
01-11-2016, 08:30 PM
Sure, the treatment of women in the ME is pathetic compared to the West--as an example, in certain countries in the ME, spousal rape isn't illegal; you can also look at the Qatif rape case in Saudi Arabia--but I'm not sure you can blame culture here without proof. There's lots of potential reasons someone rapes. When a man here, in the U.S. rapes someone, we don't blame it on "U.S. culture". That's stupid. Hopefully an investigation takes place that can give authorities the answer as to why they happened to try and stop it in the future. But throwing hundreds of thousands of people under the bus by calling there culture incompatible with ours is stultifying to me since millions of Muslims around the world, and here in the U.S., have already adapted & thrived here. Neither your paranoia or slander reflects reality.

In any case, what with these rape cases & the successful and foiled terrorist plots in Europe, it's hard to argue against the notion that Europe's refugee & immigrant system could have done and could be doing a better job. I think the vetting, surveillance & maybe even policing is not where it needs to be.

MY "paranoia or slander"? Do you really think these incidents are isolated? Maybe you missed the

Attacks reported in Sweden, Switzerland, Austria and Finland
Similar incidents occurred elsewhere in Europe.

Police in Kalmar, Sweden, said Friday they had arrested two men described as refugees who only spoke Arabic or Kurdish. The men, who have since been released on bail, are suspected in two of the 11 sexual harassment complaints received in the town on New Year's Eve, according to police spokesman Johan Bruun.

Police are looking for 10 to 15 additional suspects who allegedly encircled a group of women in Kalmar and groped them, Bruun told CNN.

In all, 16 females between 17 and 21 said they were molested, he said.

In Salzburg, an Austrian city on the German border, two men have been charged with sexually assaulting women on New Year's Eve and New Year's Day, police said in a statement.

A 23-year-old Syrian citizen was arrested in the city's Old Town section on New Year's Eve after sending fireworks in the direction of a 17-year-old student, police said. She was slightly injured in her abdomen. Further investigation revealed he allegedly had sexually abused a 20-year-old from Bayern in the inner city before the fireworks incident, police said.

A 28-year-old Afghan allegedly sexually abused a 58-year-old woman in the early hours of January 1, police said.

Another woman reported she was sexually harassed on New Year's Eve by two men who also stole her phone, police said. A 24-year-old Afghan man was arrested and accused of molesting a 26-year-old January 6 at a downtown Salzburg pub, police said.

In Zurich, Switzerland, six women told authorities they were "robbed from one side, [while] being groped ... on the other side" by groups of men described as having dark skin, according to a Zurich police statement released Friday.

And in Helsinki, Finland, police said they are investigating two possible criminal offenses related to New Year's Eve harassment centered around "a gathering of asylum-seekers."

Both the Zurich and Helsinki allegations became public well after the incidents took place.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/09/europe/germany-new-year-violence/

ChumpDumper
01-11-2016, 11:05 PM
right on cueExcept you were wrong.


Why did you edit your cut and paste like that?Relevant points. I will ask you directly so you know you have to be a pussy now -- So what actually happened here, TSA?

TheSanityAnnex
01-12-2016, 01:20 AM
Except you were wrong.

Relevant points. I will ask you directly so you know you have to be a pussy now -- So what actually happened here, TSA?

There are three separate events in the article: 2014 music festival (conveniently ignored by you), 2015 music festival, and Malmö. What are your questions pertaining to each? Be specific.

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 01:24 AM
There are three separate events in the article: 2014 music festival (conveniently ignored by you), 2015 music festival, and Malmö. What are your questions pertaining to each? Be specific.Question already asked.

Nothing was conveniently left out. My question was about the ones I listed.

You may answer the question I already asked you directly or you may continue to be a bitch.

I predict you will be a bitch.

TheSanityAnnex
01-12-2016, 01:40 AM
Question already asked.

Nothing was conveniently left out. My question was about the ones I listed.

You may answer the question I already asked you directly or you may continue to be a bitch.

I predict you will be a bitch.
So you have no questions and acknowledge the police cover up of the sexual assaults by Muslim refugees that occurred at the 2014 music festival?

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 01:42 AM
So you have no questions and acknowledge the police cover up of the sexual assaults by Muslim refugees that occurred at the 2014 music festival?I asked you a direct question.

You chose to be a bitch.

As predicted.

Thanks for proving me right. All you had to do was answer my direct question to you and you would not be a bitch. You just couldn't bring yourself to be anything but a bitch.

Thanks again, bitch.

TheSanityAnnex
01-12-2016, 01:49 AM
I asked you a direct question.

You chose to be a bitch.

As predicted.

Thanks for proving me right. All you had to do was answer my direct question to you and you would not be a bitch. You just couldn't bring yourself to be anything but a bitch.

Thanks again, bitch.
Your original question was vague and for three separate events. I'm just trying to clear things up and possibly eliminate one event if possible. So again, you have no questions and acknowledge the police cover up of the sexual assaults by Muslim refugees that occurred at the 2014 music festival?

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 01:50 AM
Your original question was vague and for three separate events. I'm just trying to clear things up and possibly eliminate one event if possible. So again, you have no questions and acknowledge the police cover up of the sexual assaults by Muslim refugees that occurred at the 2014 music festival?My direct question to you was crystal clear and remains unanswered by you.

You made your choice, bitch.

TheSanityAnnex
01-12-2016, 01:55 AM
My direct question to you was crystal clear and remains unanswered by you.

You made your choice, bitch.
It isn't clear to me as I've already explained. Clarify which events you have questions about and I can answer them no problem. Let's start with first event, you have no questions and acknowledge the police cover up of the sexual assaults by Muslim refugees that occurred at the 2014 music festival?

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 02:18 AM
It isn't clear to me as I've already explained. Clarify which events you have questions about and I can answer them no problem. Let's start with first event, you have no questions and acknowledge the police cover up of the sexual assaults by Muslim refugees that occurred at the 2014 music festival?You made you choice, bitch. I asked a very clear, easily understood question and you bitched out. You acknowledge you are a bitch.

Which is fine. It's what you do.

TheSanityAnnex
01-12-2016, 10:40 AM
You made you choice, bitch. I asked a very clear, easily understood question and you bitched out. You acknowledge you are a bitch.

Which is fine. It's what you do.

The only thing you've been clear about is your acceptance of the 2014 police cover up of sexual assaults by Muslim refugees at the music festival.

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 11:15 AM
The only thing you've been clear about is your acceptance of the 2014 police cover up of sexual assaults by Muslim refugees at the music festival.lol what a little bitch you are, Breitbart.

How does it feel?

TheSanityAnnex
01-12-2016, 12:16 PM
lol what a little bitch you are, Breitbart.

How does it feel?

It feels good watching you meltdown again today. At least you've acknowledged there was another police cover up of Muslim refugee sexual assaults. Keep going with the bitch insults too, super edgy and definitely not emotional.

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 01:04 PM
It feels good watching you meltdown again today. At least you've acknowledged there was another police cover up of Muslim refugee sexual assaults. Keep going with the bitch insults too, super edgy and definitely not emotional.

I acknowledged nothing but your being a bitch.

Good to see you continue to be a bitch.

No emotion involved, but you can whine about it more if you want.

Or just stop being a bitch.

TheSanityAnnex
01-12-2016, 01:15 PM
I acknowledged nothing but your being a bitch.

Good to see you continue to be a bitch.

No emotion involved, but you can whine about it more if you want.

Or just stop being a bitch.


You cut/pasted and quoted two separate events and asked "what really happened here" as if they were one in the same. I asked you to clarify and you refused and went into full meltdown mode. Your tantrum and name calling are cute though.

Why don't you just make this simple and clarify your questions about the three separate events so I can answer them and move on to the 2014 police coverup you don't want to talk about.

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 01:28 PM
You cut/pasted and quoted two separate events and asked "what really happened here" as if they were one in the same. I asked you to clarify and you refused and went into full meltdown mode. Your tantrum and name calling are cute though.

Why don't you just make this simple and clarify your questions about the three separate events so I can answer them and move on to the 2014 police coverup you don't want to talk about.I never said nothing happened.

I asked you what actually happened in the two events listed.

You don't want to answer, understandably, so you go into full bitch mode.

Just answer my question so we can move on to whatever else you want to Breitbart about, bitch.

DarrinS
01-12-2016, 01:47 PM
Chump,

Have you been watching this on loop?

WVR476WHmR8

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 01:49 PM
Darrin, can you answer my question?

I know you don't want to.

DarrinS
01-12-2016, 01:50 PM
Darrin, can you answer my question?

I know you don't want to.

Correct on both counts.

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 01:55 PM
Correct on both counts.I didn't say you could answer it.

I honestly don't think you can, but your desire to be a bitch overrides anything else in matters such as these, so your ability is moot.

DarrinS
01-12-2016, 02:00 PM
I didn't say you could answer it.

I honestly don't think you can, but your desire to be a bitch overrides anything else in matters such as these, so your ability is moot.


Stay angry

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 02:02 PM
Stay angryNo anger.

You two Breitbart twins never fail to amuse me when you run away from simple questions.

Keep running, Darrin. Run away.

DarrinS
01-12-2016, 02:09 PM
No anger.

You two Breitbart twins never fail to amuse me when you run away from simple questions.

Keep running, Darrin. Run away.


I guess I misinterpreted your repeated use of "bitch".

TheSanityAnnex
01-12-2016, 04:07 PM
I never said nothing happened.

I asked you what actually happened in the two events listed.

You don't want to answer, understandably, so you go into full bitch mode.

Just answer my question so we can move on to whatever else you want to Breitbart about, bitch.

:lol so mad

"There were 20 reports of assault or harassment at the festival in 2015, Ticoalu said, but no evidence of any ethnic dimension to the attackers...."


What exactly happened here? Pretty self explanatory if you read the article. Police were prepared for the same pattern of harassment that occurred in 2014 and were able to intervene. Police are afraid to disclose the ethnicity because of the ongoing immigration debate. All in the article.


"....Separately, police in Malmö, Sweden’s third city, said that on New Year’s Eve gangs of young men surrounded women and molested them.

A couple of hundred men, described as “unaccompanied from Afghanistan”, were involved in what was “a new phenomenon”, a police spokesperson told the Sydsvenskan newspaper. No women made a formal complaint, police said."

What exactly happened here? Again, pretty self explanatory if you read the article. I'm not sure why you are asking what happened as it explains it right in your own quote.


if you have more specific questions feel free to ask, but you and I both read the same article so I'm not sure what more can be given.

TheSanityAnnex
01-12-2016, 04:09 PM
Don't run away from this question yet again or you might have to call yourself a bitch. Do you acknowledge the police cover up of the sexual assaults by Muslim refugees that occurred at the 2014 music festival?

Clipper Nation
01-12-2016, 05:02 PM
Does CuckDumpster realize that the people he's white-knighting for wouldn't think twice about stoning him to death for his sexual orientation?

Ginobilly
01-12-2016, 05:28 PM
The reason Chumpacocksucker protects these immigrants is cause he's a liberal homosexual jewish middle age man and probably has a rape fantasy involving young 20 something year old disenfranchised men. Reason why ugly fat feminist bitches always protect and date thugs that are in prison. :cry

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 06:24 PM
:lol so mad

"There were 20 reports of assault or harassment at the festival in 2015, Ticoalu said, but no evidence of any ethnic dimension to the attackers...."


What exactly happened here? Pretty self explanatory if you read the article. Police were prepared for the same pattern of harassment that occurred in 2014 and were able to intervene. Police are afraid to disclose the ethnicity because of the ongoing immigration debate. All in the article.


"....Separately, police in Malmö, Sweden’s third city, said that on New Year’s Eve gangs of young men surrounded women and molested them.

A couple of hundred men, described as “unaccompanied from Afghanistan”, were involved in what was “a new phenomenon”, a police spokesperson told the Sydsvenskan newspaper. No women made a formal complaint, police said."

What exactly happened here? Again, pretty self explanatory if you read the article. I'm not sure why you are asking what happened as it explains it right in your own quote.


if you have more specific questions feel free to ask, but you and I both read the same article so I'm not sure what more can be given. lol you added your own spin again Breitbart.

Just like I knew you would.

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 06:26 PM
Don't run away from this question yet again or you might have to call yourself a bitch. Do you acknowledge the police cover up of the sexual assaults by Muslim refugees that occurred at the 2014 music festival?That report is what it is. As are the others. You had to spin them to pump up the scare factor. There is a real dearth of information in all those reports, so they may or may not be as bad as you tried to spin them, Breitbart.


Does CuckDumpster realize that the people he's white-knighting for wouldn't think twice about stoning him to death for his sexual orientation?I have said nothing in favor of anyone. You're too mad to realize that. Just copy other posters like a good little follower.


The reason Chumpacocksucker protects these immigrants is cause he's a liberal homosexual jewish middle age man and probably has a rape fantasy involving young 20 something year old disenfranchised men. Reason why ugly fat feminist bitches always protect and date thugs that are in prison. :crylol so mad

What do you have against Jews anyway? List your grievances.

Ginobilly
01-12-2016, 06:46 PM
That report is what it is. As are the others. You had to spin them to pump up the scare factor. There is a real dearth of information in all those reports, so they may or may not be as bad as you tried to spin them, Breitbart.

I have said nothing in favor of anyone. You're too mad to realize that. Just copy other posters like a good little follower.

lol so mad

What do you have against Jews anyway? List your grievances.

I have nothing against jews, just jews who do this: brit milah. why do jews get away with performing fellatio on young infants?

And I know why you are accepting of muslims in western countries:<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/bIPBGC3QOWE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

They will bring middle eastern faggot culture that likes young boys.:lol

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 06:48 PM
I have nothing against jews, just jews who do this: brit milah. why do jews get away with performing fellatio on young infants? Is that the only thing you don't like about Jews?

Are you sure?


And I know why you are accepting of muslims in western countries:<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/bIPBGC3QOWE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

They will bring middle eastern faggot culture that likes young boys.:lolYou seem to be fixated on the molestation of little boys.

That's projection.

lol html

Ginobilly
01-12-2016, 07:03 PM
Is that the only thing you don't like about Jews?

Are you sure?

You seem to be fixated on the molestation of little boys.

That's projection.

lol html


projection:lmao the go to smack talk of homo girlymen when they have been defeated in a debate. :lmao Don't you stop and think that maybe that's the reason a lot of jewish guys( yourself included) like men because they were molested as little boys? The only logical conclusion spurstalk could make of you is: ese chupavergadumber esta chisquiado y come weines con heuvos! No le gustan las tortillas de harina al pobre vato puto. :lmao

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 07:10 PM
projection:lmao the go to smack talk of homo girlymen when they have been defeated in a debate. :lmao Don't you stop and think that maybe that's the reason a lot of jewish guys( yourself included) like men because they were molested as little boys? The only logical conclusion spurstalk could make of you is: ese chupavergadumber esta chisquiado y come weines con heuvos! No le gustan las tortillas de harina al pobre vato puto. :lmaoThere are several problems with your theory.

lol defeated

What are you even debating?

Please explain what you are debating.

TheSanityAnnex
01-12-2016, 08:03 PM
lol you added your own spin again Breitbart.

Just like I knew you would.
There is no spin by me, this is directly from the article. Did you even read it? Would explain your meltdown if you didn't.


The pattern of harassment was repeated at the festival in 2015, but the police and organisers were prepared for it and intervened to prevent it, according to Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police.

It is police policy not to comment on the ethnic background of perpetrators, he said. talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,”
:lol calling others bitch. Nice self bitchslap btw

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 08:13 PM
There is no spin by me, this is directly from the article. Did you even read it? Would explain your meltdown if you didn't.


:lol calling others bitch. Nice self bitchslap btw[/FONT][/COLOR]
lol backtracking Breitbart bitch

TheSanityAnnex
01-12-2016, 08:23 PM
lol backtracking Breitbart bitch

What the fuck are you even talking about? Please, explain where you think there was ANY backtracking. Don't be a you know what, lay it out.

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 08:26 PM
What the fuck are you even talking about? Please, explain where you think there was ANY backtracking. Don't be a you know what, lay it out.There is what is actually in the article.

Then there is your Beritbart spin.

If you can't tell the difference, you're delusional.

I have no doubts that the assaults happened, and that immigrants were involved in many of them. Anything else is spin.

Just like the claim that "thousands" of immigrants were involved in the Cologne attacks. The video going around shows nowhere near that.

TheSanityAnnex
01-12-2016, 08:40 PM
There is what is actually in the article.

Then there is your Beritbart spin.

If you can't tell the difference, you're delusional.

I have no doubts that the assaults happened, and that immigrants were involved in many of them. Anything else is spin.

Just like the claim that "thousands" of immigrants were involved in the Cologne attacks. The video going around shows nowhere near that.
What's my spin, don't be a "bitch", be specific. Where did I spin anything. Again, don't be a "bitch".

TheSanityAnnex
01-12-2016, 08:43 PM
This could be the deepest I've ever seen you dig in. Pathetic and entertaining equally.

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 08:47 PM
What's my spin, don't be a "bitch", be specific. Where did I spin anything. Again, don't be a "bitch".So you don't know what you posted yourself?

lol


This could be the deepest I've ever seen you dig in. Pathetic and entertaining equally.Digging in on what? The article says what it says. I don't doubt any of it.

Your spin, however....

lol

TheSanityAnnex
01-12-2016, 08:50 PM
So you don't know what you posted yourself?

lol

Digging in on what? The article says what it says. I don't doubt any of it.

Your spin, however....

lol
What spin? Don't be a "bitch""

TheSanityAnnex
01-12-2016, 08:52 PM
Pretty self explanatory if you read the article. Police were prepared for the same pattern of harassment that occurred in 2014 and were able to intervene. Police are afraid to disclose the ethnicity because of the ongoing immigration debate. All in the article.



what spin?

TheSanityAnnex
01-12-2016, 08:53 PM
You are chumping chump.

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 08:53 PM
What spin? Don't be a "bitch""There are gaps in what the article actually says.

You fill them with your spin.

It's quite simple.

:cryWhat spin?:cry

lol

TheSanityAnnex
01-12-2016, 08:59 PM
There are gaps in what the article actually says.

You fill them with your spin.

It's quite simple.

:cryWhat spin?:cry

lol
Don't be a "bitch" yet again. What spin? Everything I posted was cut/pasted from the article. Stop being a "bitch", what spin?

Dirk Oneanddoneski
01-12-2016, 09:05 PM
The reason Chumpacocksucker protects these immigrants is cause he's a liberal homosexual jewish middle age man and probably has a rape fantasy involving young 20 something year old disenfranchised men. Reason why ugly fat feminist bitches always protect and date thugs that are in prison. :cry

This

http://i.imgur.com/2D4UrY5.jpg

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 09:12 PM
Everything I posted was cut/pasted from the article.lol now you don't even know what you posted.

ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 09:18 PM
Well, if 15 is going to be the only solid number in the entire article, there are real questions as to just how serious this problem is.

TheSanityAnnex
01-12-2016, 09:39 PM
lol now you don't even know what you posted.
No I'm sure of exactly what I posted, all from the article you quoted. Stop being a "bitch", out me for the spin I put on it. Make me a "bitch", don't act timid now.

TheSanityAnnex
01-12-2016, 11:23 PM
Time to get a new account ChumpDumper. Shame you were so close to 100,000 :(
:lol bitch

TheSanityAnnex
01-13-2016, 07:43 PM
Like a bitch, ChumpDumper has left the building.

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 12:28 PM
http://www.thelocal.fr/20160107/two-jailed-after-attempted-gang-rape-on-paris-train


Woman flees attempted gang rape on Paris train

The 28-year-old woman was initially travelling in an empty carriage on an RER train in Paris on the night of December 9th when around ten men had got on the train at Montparnasse station.
The woman started to feel uncomfortable and decided to sit elsewhere, reported Le Parisien newspaper (http://www.leparisien.fr/versailles-78000/versailles-un-viol-evite-de-justesse-dans-un-train-07-01-2016-5428711.php#xtor=AD-1481423553).

Three of the men, reported to be Afghan refugees, followed her and soon began to assault her. One of them strangled her with her scarf and another held a knife to her face while the three men began to undress her, reported the paper.

By chance at the next station another passenger boarded the train and intervened to protect the victim. He managed to scare off the attackers.

The woman rushed to a nearby restaurant where she took refuge. She was left severely traumatized a source close to the case told Le Parisien.

Police were able to catch two of the alleged perpetrators thanks to the help of CCTV footage at the Montparnasse station. They were both Afghani refugees, aged 19 and 45 years old, men who the victim was able to identify, Le Parisien reported.

The incident has emerged as the issue of sex attacks by immigrants and refugees continues to cause a storm in Germany (http://www.thelocal.de/20160104/refugees-blamed-for-mass-sexual-assault-in-cologne) after reports of mass assaults on New Year's Eve in Cologne. (http://www.thelocal.de/20160104/refugees-blamed-for-mass-sexual-assault-in-cologne)

Both police and the media came under fire from the public, who accused them of covering up the ethnic backgrounds of the alleged attackers and sweeping the problem under the carpet.

Under pressure to give more details on the attacks, German police later confirmed that men of ‘Arab background’ were likely responsible for the dozens of sexual assaults on women.

Politicians have since urged the public not to stigmatize the hundreds of thousands of refugees who have entered Germany in recent months.

In France there have only been isolated reports of sexually assaults allegedly carried by migrants, although some far right blogs have suggested the problem is far more widespread and under reported.

The two men were charged with attempted rape and have since been remanded in custody.
Both men have reportedly denied the crime.

They said they were forced to flee Afghanistan after being pressured to carry out crimes against the western world, reported the paper.

Their accomplice remains on the run.

Sexual harassment on public transport in France has proven to be an all-too-common problem of late.

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 12:31 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.de/anabel-schunke/koeln-sexuelle-uebergriffe-medienversagen_b_8911050.html

Writing for the Huffington Post Deutschland, (http://www.huffingtonpost.de/anabel-schunke/koeln-sexuelle-uebergriffe-medienversagen_b_8911050.html)Anabel Schunke accused the police of covering up details about the suspected criminals in order to protect public order. Questioning why no details were given on the appearance of the suspects when police called for witnesses, despite plentiful CCTV footage, Schunke suggested that police chose to leave important details out so that the public would not make a connection between the crime and refugees.
In its details, the case is reminiscent of the mass sexual assaults which took place in north Africa during the huge Arab Spring protests of 2011-2013, Schunke points out, writing of her concern that so many people are moving to Germany from “patriarchal, Muslim societies.”

boutons_deux
01-16-2016, 12:44 PM
Ms of Middle East refugees into Europe?

Thanks, Repugs!

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 12:48 PM
Ms of Middle East refugees into Europe?

Thanks, Repugs!

I thought you said it was a good thing to bring in Middle Eastern refugees.

boutons_deux
01-16-2016, 01:01 PM
I thought you said it was a good thing to bring in Middle Eastern refugees.

Sure, those poor mofos are victims of Repug war for oil. And since Repug refuse to help their victims, somebody else carries the Repug burden.

Ms of Middle East refugees into Europe?

Thanks, Repugs!

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 01:16 PM
Sure, those poor mofos are victims of Repug war for oil. And since Repug refuse to help their victims, somebody else carries the Repug burden.

Ms of Middle East refugees into Europe?

Thanks, Repugs!




Did the Repug war for oil also cause them to rape and sexually assault women in Europe?

boutons_deux
01-16-2016, 01:30 PM
Did the Repug war for oil also cause them to rape and sexually assault women in Europe?

You're a full of shit Muslim hater, cherry picking the results while ignoring the Repug responsibility.

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 01:35 PM
You're a full of shit Muslim hater, cherry picking the results while ignoring the Repug responsibility.

You failed to answer the question. Dodge noted.

boutons_deux
01-16-2016, 01:39 PM
You failed to answer the question. Dodge noted.

you dodge admitting that the refugee problem is 100% the responsibility of the Repugs, chickenshits who refuse to help. Repugs make shit, and make other people eat it.

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 02:05 PM
you dodge admitting that the refugee problem is 100% the responsibility of the Repugs, chickenshits who refuse to help. Repugs make shit, and make other people eat it.
This thread isn't about how huge of a mistake it was for Repugs to invade Iraq. And of course the refugee problem is not 100% the fault of the Repugs. Were Repugs responsible for the Arab Spring? Removing Assad?

You are in a thread about the crimes being committed by refugees, leave the thread if you don't want to discuss it.

Since you like to place blame on everything, who is responsible for the rapes and sexual assaults the refugees are committing in Europe?

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 03:36 PM
Well, if 15 is going to be the only solid number in the entire article, there are real questions as to just how serious this problem is.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3400842/German-leisure-centre-ban-migrants-schoolgirl-sexually-assaulted-public-swimming-pool-Syrian-teenagers.html

German leisure centre becomes the first to ban all migrants after a schoolgirl was sexually assaulted in a public swimming pool by Syrian teenagers
A German (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/germany/index.html)leisure centre has become the first in the country to ban all migrants after a schoolgirl was sexually assaulted in a public swimming pool by Syrian teenagers.
Three Syrian (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/syria/index.html) boys were arrested earlier this month over the attack at a leisure centre in Munich as the country grapples with growing concerns about sex crimes perpetrated by asylum seekers (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/immigration/index.html).
In response to growing concerns, a leisure centre in Bornheim, North Rhine-Westphalia, has now barred all migrants.
The ban also follows an attack by an 18-year-old refugee on a 54-year-old woman in Bornheim, where he had grabbed her by the private parts and tried to kiss her.

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 03:38 PM
Well, if 15 is going to be the only solid number in the entire article, there are real questions as to just how serious this problem is.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3400783/Group-Syrian-Afghan-migrant-boys-sexually-assaulted-three-girls-Austrian-school-MONTHS-police-notified.html

Group of Syrian and Afghan migrant boys sexually assaulted three girls at Austrian school for MONTHS before police were notified

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 03:40 PM
Well, if 15 is going to be the only solid number in the entire article, there are real questions as to just how serious this problem is.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3395924/Girl-17-raped-14-year-old-sister-sexually-assaulted-tried-save-group-Syrian-migrants-surrounded-German-public-swimming-pool.html
Girl, 17, is 'raped' and her 14-year-old sister is sexually assaulted as she tried to save her when group of Syrian migrants surrounded them at German public swimming pool

ChumpDumper
01-16-2016, 03:45 PM
So nothing about the actual assaults we were actually talking about, Breitbart?

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 03:45 PM
Well, if 15 is going to be the only solid number in the entire article, there are real questions as to just how serious this problem is.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3392110/Now-migrant-gang-assault-women-Munich-nightclub.html
Now migrant gang assault women at Munich nightclub: Merkel forced to act as thousands protest on streets

ChumpDumper
01-16-2016, 03:46 PM
So nothing about the actual assaults we were actually talking about, Breitbart?

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 03:50 PM
So nothing about the actual assaults we were actually talking about, Breitbart?

That was a pretty epic meltdown you had the other night :lol

im still waiting to hear what my spin was on the whole thing being that everything I wrote was taken from the article.

ChumpDumper
01-16-2016, 03:51 PM
That was a pretty epic meltdown you had the other night :lol

im still waiting to hear what my spin was on the whole thing being that everything I wrote was taken from the article.I'll take that as a "No."

Thanks for cowering again.

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 03:54 PM
Well, if 15 is going to be the only solid number in the entire article, there are real questions as to just how serious this problem is.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3391075/Why-Germany-t-face-truth-migrant-sex-attacks-SUE-REID-finds-nation-denial-wave-horrific-attacks-reported-Europe.html

Why Germany can't face the truth about migrant sex attacks: SUE REID finds a nation in denial as a wave of horrific attacks is reported across Europe

ChumpDumper
01-16-2016, 03:56 PM
I accepted your "no" -- was there just no more reporting on the New Year's incident, Breitbart?

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 03:58 PM
I'll take that as a "No."

Thanks for cowering again.
I've been more than willing to discuss it, even throughout your epic "bitch" meltdown.

You've accused me though of spinning it though, back your claim up.

This is the part where you'll actually cower and be the bitch, as you realize I spun nothing and just quoted the article.

ChumpDumper
01-16-2016, 04:00 PM
I've been more than willing to discuss it, even throughout your epic "bitch" meltdown.

You've accused me though of spinning it though, back your claim up.

This is the part where you'll actually cower and be the bitch, as you realize I spun nothing and just quoted the article.Oh so you already jumped to the part where you don't know what you even posted again.

OK, thanks again.

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 04:19 PM
Oh so you already jumped to the part where you don't know what you even posted again.

OK, thanks again.

^^^
This is the part where you'll actually cower and be the bitch, as you realize I spun nothing and just quoted the article.

ChumpDumper
01-16-2016, 04:21 PM
^^^
This is the part where you'll actually cower and be the bitch, as you realize I spun nothing and just quoted the article.


Sorry, when you try to get away with saying there were ~100 rapes and then play stupid about it, you're going to be called names by me.

Deal with it.

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 05:09 PM
Sorry, when you try to get away with saying there were ~100 rapes and then play stupid about it, you're going to be called names by me.

Deal with it.

Days on end of calling someone a bitch and you are now being exactly that.

Here is your exact quote, stop being a coward.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8365931#post8365931)
:lol so mad

"There were 20 reports of assault or harassment at the festival in 2015, Ticoalu said, but no evidence of any ethnic dimension to the attackers...."


What exactly happened here? Pretty self explanatory if you read the article. Police were prepared for the same pattern of harassment that occurred in 2014 and were able to intervene. Police are afraid to disclose the ethnicity because of the ongoing immigration debate. All in the article.


"....Separately, police in Malmö, Sweden’s third city, said that on New Year’s Eve gangs of young men surrounded women and molested them.

A couple of hundred men, described as “unaccompanied from Afghanistan”, were involved in what was “a new phenomenon”, a police spokesperson told the Sydsvenskan newspaper. No women made a formal complaint, police said."

What exactly happened here? Again, pretty self explanatory if you read the article. I'm not sure why you are asking what happened as it explains it right in your own quote.


if you have more specific questions feel free to ask, but you and I both read the same article so I'm not sure what more can be given.




lol you added your own spin again Breitbart.

Just like I knew you would

Where's my own spin? Don't bitch out.

ChumpDumper
01-16-2016, 05:36 PM
Police are afraid to disclose the ethnicity because of the ongoing immigration debate. All in the article.The bolded phrase is not in the article, Breitbart.

That's your spin.

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 06:13 PM
The bolded phrase is not in the article, Breitbart.

That's your spin.


"“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/11/swedish-police-accused-cover-up-sex-attacks-refugees-festival?CMP=edit_2221

ChumpDumper
01-16-2016, 06:18 PM
"“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/11/swedish-police-accused-cover-up-sex-attacks-refugees-festival?CMP=edit_2221Thanks for confirming what you posted was not in the article.

Your spin.

Do you realize your mistake yet?

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 06:38 PM
Thanks for confirming what you posted was not in the article.

Your spin.

Do you realize your mistake yet?If not ethnicity than what? My spin lol
"There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,"

ChumpDumper
01-16-2016, 06:40 PM
If not ethnicity than what? My spin lol
"There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,"



So you don't realize your mistake yet.

No problem.

Next time you should stick to copying and pasting when you say you only coped and pasted.

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 06:49 PM
So you don't realize your mistake yet.

No problem.

Next time you should stick to copying and pasting when you say you only coped and pasted.
That isn't spin. Are you changing your argument now?

ChumpDumper
01-16-2016, 07:04 PM
That isn't spin.It has to be since you have posted the article and claim to have read it.

Go back and find the difference between what you posted and what the article actually says.

The difference is your spin.

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 07:10 PM
It has to be since you have posted the article and claim to have read it.

Go back and find the difference between what you posted and what the article actually says.

The difference is your spin.In your opinion, what is he saying the police are afraid of talking about?
"“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)

ChumpDumper
01-16-2016, 07:16 PM
In your opinion, what is he saying the police are afraid of talking about?
"“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)That's not what you posted when you said you copied and pasted, is it?

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 07:19 PM
That's not what you posted when you said you copied and pasted, is it?
That isn't an answer to the question.

In your opinion, what is he saying the police are afraid of talking about?

ChumpDumper
01-16-2016, 07:26 PM
That isn't an answer to the question.

In your opinion, what is he saying the police are afraid of talking about?You said you copied and pasted everything.

You didn't.

The result is spin.

Go back and see the difference between what you posted and what is actually in the article.

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 07:28 PM
That's not what you posted when you said you copied and pasted, is it?
I just went back and looked at the original exchange. I answered your questions in my own words and said all of my conclusions were from the article. You immediately said I spun it. I never said anything about copy/pasting until pages later. You're clinging to a very weak semantics argument now.

ChumpDumper
01-16-2016, 07:29 PM
I just went back and looked at the original exchange. I answered your questions in my own words and said all of my conclusions were from the article. You immediately said I spun it. I never said anything about copy/pasting until pages later. You're clinging to a very weak semantics argument now.I could see the difference between what you posted and what was actually in the article immediately.

That's why I called it spin.

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 07:30 PM
You said you copied and pasted everything.

You didn't.

The result is spin.

Go back and see the difference between what you posted and what is actually in the article.



Here is your exact quote, stop being a coward.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8365931#post8365931)
:lol so mad

"There were 20 reports of assault or harassment at the festival in 2015, Ticoalu said, but no evidence of any ethnic dimension to the attackers...."


What exactly happened here? Pretty self explanatory if you read the article. Police were prepared for the same pattern of harassment that occurred in 2014 and were able to intervene. Police are afraid to disclose the ethnicity because of the ongoing immigration debate. All in the article.


"....Separately, police in Malmö, Sweden’s third city, said that on New Year’s Eve gangs of young men surrounded women and molested them.

A couple of hundred men, described as “unaccompanied from Afghanistan”, were involved in what was “a new phenomenon”, a police spokesperson told the Sydsvenskan newspaper. No women made a formal complaint, police said."

What exactly happened here? Again, pretty self explanatory if you read the article. I'm not sure why you are asking what happened as it explains it right in your own quote.


if you have more specific questions feel free to ask, but you and I both read the same article so I'm not sure what more can be given.




http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by ChumpDumper (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=0#post0)
lol you added your own spin again Breitbart.




http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by ChumpDumper (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=0#post0)

Just like I knew you would





You see anything about copy/pasting?

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 07:32 PM
I could see the difference between what you posted and what was actually in the article immediately.

That's why I called it spin.

Which leads us to this question you've dodged twice now.

In your opinion, what is he saying the police are afraid of talking about?

ChumpDumper
01-16-2016, 07:35 PM
Here is your exact quote, stop being a coward.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8365931#post8365931)
:lol so mad

"There were 20 reports of assault or harassment at the festival in 2015, Ticoalu said, but no evidence of any ethnic dimension to the attackers...."


What exactly happened here? Pretty self explanatory if you read the article. Police were prepared for the same pattern of harassment that occurred in 2014 and were able to intervene. Police are afraid to disclose the ethnicity because of the ongoing immigration debate. All in the article.


"....Separately, police in Malmö, Sweden’s third city, said that on New Year’s Eve gangs of young men surrounded women and molested them.

A couple of hundred men, described as “unaccompanied from Afghanistan”, were involved in what was “a new phenomenon”, a police spokesperson told the Sydsvenskan newspaper. No women made a formal complaint, police said."

What exactly happened here? Again, pretty self explanatory if you read the article. I'm not sure why you are asking what happened as it explains it right in your own quote.


if you have more specific questions feel free to ask, but you and I both read the same article so I'm not sure what more can be given.




http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by ChumpDumper (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=0#post0)
lol you added your own spin again Breitbart.




http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by ChumpDumper (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=0#post0)

Just like I knew you would





You see anything about copy/pasting?I can see quite plainly what was copied and pasted and what was not. I don't know why you later claimed to have only copied and pasted, but that was obviously a lie.

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 07:48 PM
I can see quite plainly what was copied and pasted and what was not. I don't know why you late claimed to have only copied and pasted, but that was obviously a lie.
Wasn't a lie just misspoke and it was pages later. You had already made the claim I spun it before I said that. I thought I copy/pasted and looking back I just answered your questions, so yes I was wrong on that count.

Back to your first claim of spin though, how is what I said spinning the article? In your opinion, what is the police spokesman saying when he said the police are afraid of talking about?

Dont dodge a third time.

ChumpDumper
01-16-2016, 07:52 PM
Wasn't a lie just misspoke and it was pages later. You had already made the claim I spun it before I said that. I thought I copy/pasted and looking back I just answered your questions, so yes I was wrong on that count.

Back to your first claim of spin though, how is what I said spinning the article? In your opinion, what is the police spokesman saying when he said the police are afraid of talking about?

Dont dodge a third time.Never dodged anything. I was giving you every opportunity to stop shitting on yourself. You have so far jammed in reverse and retracted your claim of only copying and pasting, so I guess that's progress for you. Still all kinds of shit on you tho.

Ethnicity is unreported not because of individual policemen's fears. That is your spin. You should have stuck to copying and pasting like you originally claimed and later retracted.

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 07:53 PM
http://m.jpost.com/International/North-African-men-attempt-to-stone-transgender-women-in-German-city-441695#article=6017OUFFRDA3QTQyMzI4MkFCQjYyOTM2Qzk 4MEUxNzBEQjg=

North African men suspected of stoning transgender women in German city
By BENJAMIN WEINTHAL
Sat, 16 Jan 2016, 04:13 AM
“That was barbaric what they did. They are barbarians,” one of the victims said.
http://www.jpost.com/HttpHandlers/ShowImage.ashx?ID=326083&p=150
Photo by: WIKIPEDIA
BERLIN — Three young men from North Africa were arrested on Saturday in the western German city of Dortmund for stoning two transgender women.
According to a report on Friday on television station SAT1.NRW, the men attacked Yasmine und Elisa, two transgender women, near the city’s main train station.
“Within seconds we were tossed around…and they took stones from a gravel bed on the corner and threw them at us,” said Elisa.
A police car appeared at the train station as the stoning attack unfolded and arrested the men.



The German media as a general rule do not disclose the last names of victims to protect their privacy. The three men are between 16 and 18 years-old and are known to the authorities from theft and assault arrests.
Dortmund police official Kim-Ben Freigang said the suspects told the police that “such persons must be stoned.”
Yasmine installed a security camera at the residence where she lives with Elisa after the attacks. “That was barbaric what they did. They are barbarians,” Yasmine said.
She added that she could not believe that such an act of shamelessness occurred. “In 2016, in Germany, with stoning!” According to the SATI.NRW report, Yasmine said it was the first time in 30 years she felt unsafe as a transgender woman.
According to Yasmine and Elisa, the three young men propositioned them, but after they realized that Yasmine and Elisa are transgender women, they attacked them with stones.
Stoning people to death is a penalty used in nine Muslim-majority countries. In November, a criminal court in Iran’s northern province of Gilan sentenced a woman to be executed by stoning for alleged complicity in the murder of her husband, Arash Babaieepour Tabrizinejad.
The stoning penalty of the woman, who was only identified by the initials “A.Kh,” was first reported on the Persian-language Iranian website LAHIG.
According to the LAHIG report, the court imposed the penalty on the woman after an initial sentence of lashings and a 25-year prison sentence. The criminal court in the city of Rasht in Gilan issued the sentence.
Lethal homophobia is widespread in the Arab world and Iran. A 2008 British Wikileaks dispatch noted that the Islamic Republic of Iran has executed “between 4,000 and 6,000 gays and lesbians” since the Islamic revolution in 1979.
Islamic State has murdered dozens of gays by tossing the men off buildings. Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Yemen and Qatar, to name just some of the most anti-gay countries, persecute LGBTs with the death penalty and imprisonment.

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 07:56 PM
Never dodged anything. I was giving you every opportunity to stop shitting on yourself. You have so far jammed in reverse and retracted your claim of only copying and pasting, so I guess that's progress for you. Still all kinds of shit on you tho.

Ethnicity is unreported not because of individual policemen's fears. That is your spin. You should have stuck to copying and pasting like you originally claimed and later retracted.

Thats dodge number four.

"“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)

What things are the police afraid of talking about in the context of the immigration debate?

ChumpDumper
01-16-2016, 08:07 PM
Thats dodge number four.

"“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)

What things are the police afraid of talking about in the context of the immigration debate?I explicitly pointed out your spin. That's what you wanted to know; that's what you got.

Ethnicity is unreported not because of individual policemen's fears. You claimed it was.

Your goalpost move is ignored.

Stick to copy and paste next time.

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 08:11 PM
I explicitly pointed out your spin. That's what you wanted to know; that's what you got.

Ethnicity is unreported not because of individual policemen's fears. You claimed it was.

Your goalpost move is ignored.

Stick to copy and paste next time.
Dodge number five. Don't be a bitch.

"“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)

What things are the police afraid of talking about in the context of the immigration debate?

ChumpDumper
01-16-2016, 08:16 PM
Dodge number five. Don't be a bitch.

"“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)

What things are the police afraid of talking about in the context of the immigration debate? It's all in the article -- just like the reason ethnicity is not reported.

I have no idea why you tried to spin it, then lied about copying and pasting it, and now you're trying so hard to spin it AGAIN by moving the goalposts and changing it to what you posted instead of what you lied about copying and pasting in the first place.

You got your answer about your spin. Be happy.

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 08:23 PM
It's all in the article -- just like the reason ethnicity is not reported.

I have no idea why you tried to spin it, then lied about copying and pasting it, and now you're trying so hard to spin it AGAIN by moving the goalposts and changing it to what you posted instead of what you lied about copying and pasting in the first place.

You got your answer about your spin. Be happy.

Dodge number six. You are being a real bitch now. I asked for your opinion, much like I gave you.

"“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)

What things are the police afraid of talking about in the context of the immigration debate?

ChumpDumper
01-16-2016, 08:30 PM
Dodge number six. You are being a real bitch now. I asked for your opinion, much like I gave you.

"“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)

What things are the police afraid of talking about in the context of the immigration debate? Why did your question change?

The best part is your bitching out own your own question.

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 09:17 PM
Why did your question change?

The best part is your bitching out own your own question.
No, the best part is your seventh dodge.

"“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)

What things are the police afraid of talking about in the context of the immigration debate?

TheSanityAnnex
01-16-2016, 10:15 PM
The continuous dodge sinks your initial spin claim. :tu

Dirk Oneanddoneski
01-21-2016, 08:23 PM
http://i.imgur.com/sO6ESRi.jpg

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/688999781193117696

spankadelphia
01-22-2016, 01:56 AM
It's useless, Sanity. These people are brain damaged and would have been picked off in the wild 5,000 years ago. No survival instinct.

Winehole23
01-22-2016, 02:17 AM
police blotter is mentioned in alleged support of the OP, for the allegedly brain damaged.

Winehole23
01-22-2016, 02:18 AM
the plural of anecdote is not data.

rmt
01-22-2016, 03:34 AM
The Imam told the interviewer: “we need to react properly, and not to add fuel to the fire”, speaking of the hundreds of women who were groped, sexually assaulted and even raped by migrant men across German cities like Cologne. “The events of New Year’s Eve were the girls own fault, because they were half naked and wearing perfume. It is not surprising the men wanted to attack them."

http://www.indiatimes.com/news/weird/syrian-migrants-went-on-raping-spree-because-german-women-wore-perfume-and-sexy-clothes-says-radical-mosque-imam-249663.html

This Iman is an "Islamic leadership position. It is most commonly in the context of a worship leader of a mosque and Muslim community by Sunni Muslims." So this is what he is preaching in his mosque? All the above sexual assaults are terrible. Can you imagine how many are going unreported? How can the German tolerate this? Authorities and media covering up - complicit in attacks on their own girls for the sake of political correctness? And some on this board want to bring this to the US? And is the US media reporting this? i haven't seen any so far - UK and India.

Winehole23
01-22-2016, 03:48 AM
that view isn't peculiar to Islam.

Winehole23
01-22-2016, 03:48 AM
did you know women were legally chattels in Texas until the early 1970s?

could not sign a contract, lease, or loan without a man countersigning. could not open a bank account or buy a car.

FuzzyLumpkins
01-22-2016, 04:32 AM
that view isn't peculiar to Islam.

Institutionally today it is. Texas was one of the last to change in the US around 50 years ago but the first real advances happened at the turn of the century. The US was far behind Europe similarly with slavery.

You can always find a misogynist but equal protection and freedom has been the institutional ethic of the liberal west for hundreds of years.

The West hasn't seen anything like Sharia laws since the 19th century. The reformation is what it is. The old Ottoman states were still institutionally jihading when Susan Anthony was winning the fight for the right to vote. The madrassas remain the basis for Eastern education.

I see very little ethic for reform in Islam here or abroad.

ChumpDumper
01-22-2016, 05:20 AM
The continuous dodge sinks your initial spin claim. :tuYou changed your question; trumps everything. Doesn't change your initial lie.:tu

DarrinS
01-22-2016, 12:12 PM
did you know women were legally chattels in Texas until the early 1970s?

could not sign a contract, lease, or loan without a man countersigning. could not open a bank account or buy a car.

Yeah, it's not 1970

TheSanityAnnex
01-22-2016, 03:18 PM
that view isn't peculiar to Islam.

Presently? Sure it is.

TheSanityAnnex
01-22-2016, 03:22 PM
You changed your question; trumps everything. Doesn't change your initial lie.:tu
Dodge #8


I already admitted my error and moved past that. Back to my question about the article.

What things are the police afraid of talking about in the context of the immigration debate?

ChumpDumper
01-22-2016, 03:27 PM
Dodge #8


I already admitted my error and moved past that. Back to my question about the article.

What things are the police afraid of talking about in the context of the immigration debate?Doesn't matter if they are afraid or not. Their policy is their policy. You can backtrack and change your question as much as you want, but you can't change the facts.

No dodging at all.

MultiTroll
01-22-2016, 04:02 PM
Dodge #8


I already admitted my error and moved past that. Back to my question about the article.

What things are the police afraid of talking about in the context of the immigration debate?


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Chumps response^^^.
SanityAnnex maybe you can let Chump know he won't literally die.

ChumpDumper
01-22-2016, 04:05 PM
lol Fabbs really trying to make friends.

TheSanityAnnex
01-22-2016, 05:31 PM
Doesn't matter if they are afraid or not. Their policy is their policy. You can backtrack and change your question as much as you want, but you can't change the facts.

No dodging at all.Dodge #9

I didn't ask you whether it mattered if they were afraid, I asked you what things they were afraid of talking about in the context of the immigration debate.

You are being a real bitch about answering a direct question.

ChumpDumper
01-22-2016, 05:37 PM
Dodge #9

I didn't ask you whether it mattered if they were afraid, I asked you what things they were afraid of talking about in the context of the immigration debate.

You are being a real bitch about answering a direct question.Sorry, I just won't let you get away with changing your question.

You backtracked and you're done.

It's OK. Apology accepted.

TheSanityAnnex
01-22-2016, 05:43 PM
Sorry, I just won't let you get away with changing your question.

You backtracked and you're done.

It's OK. Apology accepted.Dodge #10

Ok, answer the original question.

In your opinion, what is he saying the police are afraid of talking about?
“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)

MultiTroll
01-22-2016, 05:43 PM
Dodge #9

I didn't ask you whether it mattered if they were afraid, I asked you what things they were afraid of talking about in the context of the immigration debate.

You are being a real bitch about answering a direct question.
Sophist Chump about to hit double digits.

ChumpDumper
01-22-2016, 05:47 PM
Dodge #10

Ok, answer the original question.

In your opinion, what is he saying the police are afraid of talking about?
“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)Sorry, you can't backtrack over the backtrack.

It's over. Apology accepted.


Sophist Chump about to hit double digits.You still don't know that "sophist" means -- maybe your new bestie can take a break from backtracking and tell you.

TheSanityAnnex
01-22-2016, 05:50 PM
Sorry, you can't backtrack over the backtrack.

It's over. Apology accepted.

Dodge #11

Stop being a bitch. Why are you afraid to answer the question?

MultiTroll
01-22-2016, 05:52 PM
Sorry, you can't backtrack over the backtrack.

It's over. Apology accepted.

You still don't know that "sophist" means -- maybe your new bestie can take a break from backtracking and tell you.
Sophist Chump with the double double. How many is that for your "career"? :rollin

Not sure what you are fabricating with your "I don't know what Sophist means." dodge.

ChumpDumper
01-22-2016, 05:53 PM
Dodge #11

Stop being a bitch. Why are you afraid to answer the question?It was never an issue I raised. You fucked up -- I pointed it out. You declared victory for a couple of days until you actually figured out I was right and you were wrong. You finally admitted that and that is where it should have stopped -- but you can't let it go so you tried to change what was actually being discussed.

Sorry, you should be able to live with just being wrong. I'm not here to enable you.

ChumpDumper
01-22-2016, 05:55 PM
Sophist Chump with the double double. How many is that for your "career"? :rollin

Not sure what you are fabricating with your "I don't know what Sophist means." dodge.Either that or you don't realize it doesn't apply here at all.

Which is it?

Either way, you look pretty ignorant.

TheSanityAnnex
01-22-2016, 06:16 PM
It was never an issue I raised. :lol and that matters how? I asked you a direct question which relates to the thread you are in, you dodged it #11 times, the very definition of being a bitch.

ChumpDumper
01-22-2016, 06:25 PM
:lol and that matters how? I asked you a direct question which relates to the thread you are in, you dodged it #11 times, the very definition of being a bitch.I made my point. You finally accepted it and you're more than a little embarrassed that you were so wrong on such a simple matter. Now you're trying to act like you weren't wrong in the first place.

Stop while you are behind.

TheSanityAnnex
01-22-2016, 06:34 PM
I made my point. You finally accepted it and you're more than a little embarrassed that you were so wrong on such a simple matter. Now you're trying to act like you weren't wrong in the first place.

Stop while you are behind.

You've made it your point to be a bitch. If you no longer want to discuss the topic of the thread you are in I'd suggest you just leave. If you still want to discuss the topic of the thread you are in let's continue.

I am well aware you never made this an issue, but in your opinion, what is he saying the police are afraid of talking about?
“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/progress.gif

ChumpDumper
01-22-2016, 06:51 PM
You've made it your point to be a bitch.I made my point because you were wrong.
If you no longer want to discuss the topic of the thread you are in I'd suggest you just leave. If you still want to discuss the topic of the thread you are in let's continue.lol it's cute when you try to be butch.

You were wrong. I'm gloating. You're pissed.

TheSanityAnnex
01-22-2016, 09:32 PM
I made my point because you were wrong.lol it's cute when you try to be butch.

You were wrong. I'm gloating. You're pissed.
I was wrong and admitted it days ago. You live a sad life if you are still gloating.

I'm not pissed at all, it's fun watching you cower and dodge a question 12 times. It's obvious why you won't answer though. Your refusal to answer is very similar to the police cover up. You simply are a sexual assault sympathizer.

I am well aware you never made this an issue, but in your opinion, what is he saying the police are afraid of talking about?
“There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)

ChumpDumper
01-22-2016, 11:49 PM
lol the only reason you are backtracking and repeating your changed question is because you are butthurt that I showed how wrong you were so easily after you tried to gloat for a few days. It's really the only reason you are still posting here, and you have the gall to call me sad.

lol

TheSanityAnnex
01-23-2016, 12:29 PM
lol the only reason you are backtracking and repeating your changed question is because you are butthurt that I showed how wrong you were so easily after you tried to gloat for a few days. It's really the only reason you are still posting here, and you have the gall to call me sad.

lolI am well aware you never made this an issue, but in your opinion, what is he saying the police are afraid of talking about? “There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)