Andersons Knee to GNob intentional? [Archive]

MultiTroll

02-04-2016, 10:45 PM

I think Anderson was butt hurt he was not going off on the Spurs like the last meeting.

Also, he clearly saw where Manu was before he swung his head around and launched.
2:26 left in the game and down 11 points. Obvious charging call too.

Only God (Or the Great Dustspect if you an Evo) can say for a fact whether he intended to injure.
I'm certainly not saying he knew this would be the outcome.
But I think he reacted to being butthurt by intentionally narding Manu.

KimmyGib

02-05-2016, 02:22 AM

Damn, it really takes a special kind of low to desecrate something as legendary as Manu Ginobili's balls.

exstatic

02-05-2016, 07:45 AM

It looked intentional to me.

travis2

02-05-2016, 07:54 AM

It looked intentional to me.

From Downtown

02-05-2016, 07:56 AM

If it was intentional it was a shitty move,it could have been life - altering and more than just an (painful as fuck) injury

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs

02-05-2016, 08:10 AM

Of course it was. He threw it knowing very well that Manu WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM. Bush league move at its finest. Reminded of this move. The league needs to revisit players throwing their knees out like the same as throwing an elbow. Should be a flagrant and automatic ejection. Go to replay to determine if the contact was excessive. Actually it hurts far worse to get kneed in the thigh or other areas than to get elbowed in the face.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d12YVBOrP00

exstatic

02-05-2016, 08:11 AM

To clarify, I don't think he intended to smash his testicle and maim him, but he did mean to "nut" him. It was not a natural basketball move to bring the knee up that high.

Brazil

02-05-2016, 08:23 AM

To clarify, I don't think he intended to smash his testicle and maim him, but he did mean to "nut" him. It was not a natural basketball move to bring the knee up that high.

agreed

hater

02-05-2016, 08:25 AM

No it wasn't.

:lmao Manutards

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs

02-05-2016, 08:32 AM

To clarify, I don't think he intended to smash his testicle and maim him, but he did mean to "nut" him. It was not a natural basketball move to bring the knee up that high.

I agree he didn't mean to him him directly in the nuts, but a bruised bone on the thigh take about 3-4 weeks to heal as well. He meant to him hit him with that knee.

Duncan has been out for nearly 3-4 weeks due to a bruised bone in the knee. I haven't had one in awhile but they hurt like hell.

NameLess Scrub

02-05-2016, 08:46 AM

I can't tell..

On one hand, he made a motion to shoot.
On the other, he could've tried a hook or some other move off the bump instead of taking a shot like that.

I hope it wasn't intentional, with a game basically over.
He could get in Wade's club of un(intentional) injuries.

Spurs9

02-05-2016, 09:54 AM

You guys really believe in that split second he intended to do that tbh? :lol
I can barely tell how Manu even got hit during a replay. Hope Monobili has a fast recovery

MultiTroll

02-05-2016, 09:57 AM

You guys really believe in that split second he intended to do that tbh? :lol
I can barely tell how Manu even got hit during a replay. Hope Monobili has a fast recovery

To clarify, I don't think he intended to smash his testicle and maim him, but he did mean to "nut" him. It was not a natural basketball move to bring the knee up that high.

Spurs9

02-05-2016, 09:58 AM

Not buying it^

SouthernFried

02-05-2016, 09:59 AM

I used to play against a guy that used to do this exact same thing. It became a natural move to him, throwing his knee out as he was going up. It gave him extra room to get his shot off and was effective for him...but it was dangerous, especially when he had a full head of steam. It is much like swinging your elbows around to create space...you can really hurt someone doing it. I think it is illegal to throw elbows to create space now...not sure tho.

I haven't seen many guys use that technique, tho if you look at Dirk, he does that on fade-aways. Which isn't so bad since he's moving backward, not forward, but still there is potential for injury when defender is playing close. Anderson's move is not common right now...but, if it looks effective to others, it might become moreso. Turn around and throw your knee into the defender instead of your elbows. It should be analyzed closer by the league and a rule should be made to make this a flagrant...just like throwing an elbow. Especially when attacking. Not so much against the way Dirk uses it on fadeaways, losta guys do the same thing. Back on one leg, fading away, knee up. But, the way Anderson uses it, when making moves towards the basket? Not much different than throwing a punch to the defender...just with your knees instead of your fists or elbows.

TheDoctor

02-05-2016, 10:07 AM

Yes he was.

They were losing, he was frustrated and Manu irritated him guarding him hard. That was a frustration Bynum/Artest style bush league move.
Prior to the Sagat knee, he threw multiples headbutts that miraculously didn't catch Manu's Toucanish nose.

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs

02-05-2016, 10:12 AM

Go watch the replay. That was a frustration foul and a dirty play. RA was getting shutdown all game by Diaw and KA. Either scored but both were on RA like white on rice. First he pushes off on Manu (foul); he PLOWS his shoulder into Manu (foul); turns and throws his knee up (foul).

Don't tell me he didn't intend to be overly physical on that play. He knew he hit Manu in the groin and he walked away like nothing. If I was Manu teammate, the next game I would want to setup a pnr where I got one-on-one and I would just run right over him. No shit.

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/2/4/10918178/manu-ginobili-injury-groin

hater

02-05-2016, 10:14 AM

Durant and Kobe do this for a living tbh.

And Manu has done it plenty of times as well.

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs

02-05-2016, 10:18 AM

Durant and Kobe do this for a living tbh.

And Manu has done it plenty of times as well.

There is one thing in sticking your leg/knee out when you're DRIVING to the basket. It's another when you are plowing over a guy in the post and you knock him off balance, he is only 1' in front of you and you go up with your knee. Dude, I haven't someone do this in the NBA in a long time.

It was dirty and it was cheap.

hater

02-05-2016, 10:21 AM

So u dont t think driving to the basket at full speed knowing someone is there waiting for you could cause similar injury? Come on now.

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs

02-05-2016, 10:25 AM

So u dont t think driving to the basket at full speed knowing someone is there waiting for you could cause similar injury? Come on now.

It can. BUT YOU SEE IT COMING. I have played against guys who have done that. I counter by throw out my knee when I go up to contest. People get the picture really quick NOT to throw their knees when there driving to the basket on me.

Shit, I have NEVER played with someone that threw their knee out WHILE IN THE POST. I have had defenders do that to me. I had a lighting fast first step so guys use to throw their knee out to stop me. But never had I been defending someone in the post and they threw their knee out like that. That is as low as you can go, no pun intended.

TheDoctor

02-05-2016, 10:27 AM

Durant and Kobe do this for a living tbh.

And Manu has done it plenty of times as well.

Exactly. An intentional move which Ryan Anderson has done before.

SouthernFried

02-05-2016, 10:30 AM

Really? I don't recall seeing many guys posting up and then kneeing his defender in the balls. I mean, if a "lot of guys" do this, you'd think there would be more "knee's to the balls" stories. Cuz, y'know...that's where knees would generally hit...

Like I said...this is move like throwing your elbows into someones face. Just lower...

SayTown

02-05-2016, 11:20 AM

He did the old dirty Karl Malone move

MultiTroll

02-05-2016, 11:28 AM

One thing I've noticed (or not noticed...) about this incident.

Usually when a player seriously injures another, there is some sort of public statement from the perpetrator.

From Ryan Anderson...crickets.

Dude just walked away after kneeing Manu in the junk. Fuck that guy.

EVAY

02-05-2016, 11:33 AM

He did the old dirty Karl Malone move

I wondered when someone would mention this. Karl Malone was NOTORIOUS for this move, normally on drives, though.

Although I don't think the guy intended as much harm as Manu got, I think it was the second offensive foul that he didn't get called for in the same few seconds. It WAS clearly an offensive foul, imo. Never called.

And yes, if I were a member of this team, I would find a way to remind Ryan Anderson about it the next time they play.

MultiTroll

02-05-2016, 11:35 AM

I wondered when someone would mention this. Karl Malone was NOTORIOUS for this move, normally on drives, though.

Although I don't think the guy intended as much harm as Manu got, I think it was the second offensive foul that he didn't get called for in the same few seconds. It WAS clearly an offensive foul, imo. Never called.

And yes, if I were a member of this team, I would find a way to remind Ryan Anderson about it the next time they play.
Seats behind the visitors bench doable? $$$
Would be nice to see some ST reppin letting Anderson know what a kuunt move he did.

EVAY

02-05-2016, 11:44 AM

Seats behind the visitors bench doable? $$$
Would be nice to see some ST reppin letting Anderson know what a kuunt move he did.

Well, I'm afraid that is a little nicer than what I had in mind. Verbally trashing the guy is fine, imo, but I kinda had more like "hard common foul' delivered by Boban to Anderson in the next game. Nothing that would be flagrant, but a hard foul from Boban would hurt worse than a flagrant from a normal sized teammate.

I also think that the home crowd might get into it with Anderson by taunting his attention to opponent's private parts.

Similarly, I expect that the next time the mavs come to the ATT center, they will get an earful about their guy who felt up Boban while trying to guard him. Just make fun of them.

NameLess Scrub

02-05-2016, 12:02 PM

It can. BUT YOU SEE IT COMING. I have played against guys who have done that. I counter by throw out my knee when I go up to contest. People get the picture really quick NOT to throw their knees when there driving to the basket on me.

Shit, I have NEVER played with someone that threw their knee out WHILE IN THE POST. I have had defenders do that to me. I had a lighting fast first step so guys use to throw their knee out to stop me. But never had I been defending someone in the post and they threw their knee out like that. That is as low as you can go, no pun intended.

This makes sense. He made it look like he was taking a jump shot, but it doesn't seem natural to get the knees high for that.

I'd expect to see a hook or a jump shot straight up with no knees..

wildbill2u

02-05-2016, 12:08 PM

The NBA teams used to have players, usually PFs, that were known as enforcers. Very tough guys who played rough on both sides of the ball. Everyone knew pretty much where the line was--and if it was crossed, the enforcer went after the guy. Some of those enforcers were legendary--Lovellette, Bad News Barnes, and my personal favorite, Maurice Lucas, etc. And the Spurs had their share in Rich Jones, Frank Brickowski, and George Johnson. Lots of enforcers weren't on the starting five and most weren't big scorers. They had one job to do--use up the six fouls if necessary to slow the other team down.

In general, elbows flew anytime someone went into the lane and the pick men would throw down a really hard pick. Those days are gone because of rule changes and most fans don't realize just how easy the game has become.

TheDoctor

02-05-2016, 12:18 PM

This makes sense. He made it look like he was taking a jump shot, but it doesn't seem natural to get the knees high for that.

I'd expect to see a hook or a jump shot straight up with no knees..

Exactly what I've been saying, he wasn't near the basket nor shooting a running hook to get the knee that high. When you look at the play from this angle...

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...CLEARLY he didn't have the need to throw that knee as high. That wasn't a normal shooting motion. You do that and you're going directly to the hardwood if not for a person (Manu) doing the counterweight. The guys was on a mission and it was to take Manu out of the game. Probably just thinking "only" for the rest of the game but I have no doubt it was intentional.

PublicOption

02-05-2016, 04:56 PM

he kneed's to do that Curry.

spurs10

02-05-2016, 05:54 PM

Has anyone in NBA looked into this? Of course it looks bad- he kneed him hard in the &$@.....

spurtech09

02-05-2016, 06:42 PM

Who knows if it was intentional or not but wow I feel really bad for Manu....Get well soon bro.....wishing you a speedy recovery :)

skulls138

02-05-2016, 07:23 PM

It looks intentional to me. Theres a little unneeded skip there that would rob him of his push off power to the basket. What would the reason be if not for a dirty shot, and where else was that knee supposed to go his hip? No that was dirty. Think they just lost their edge over Spurs.