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Spurminator
03-08-2016, 01:21 PM
I want him not to feed the BLM narrative and ignore all the cops that are being killed by black guys.
If there was a spike or trend towards more racially-motivated cop killings, I have no doubt the President would remark on them.
You want him to respond to right-wing blog manufactured hysteria, I'm glad he doesn't.
If Sanders gets swept tonight he better start packing his bags.
I feel like it could be a split. She takes Michigan easy and Mississippi is a toss up imo.
boutons_deux
03-08-2016, 01:35 PM
So because cops are killed (a job THEY signed up for knowing how dangerous it is), makes it okay to disproportionally kill unarmed Blacks, etc?
a job THEY signed up for knowing how ... easy it would be to fry and kill n!gg@s, rape women, steal cash and drugs from citizens....
ChumpDumper
03-08-2016, 02:25 PM
I want him not to feed the BLM narrative and ignore all the cops that are being killed by black guys.Do you now actively ignore the fact that cops just aren't getting killed in the numbers that fit your narrative?
Mitch
03-08-2016, 08:11 PM
What's your expectations for your boy today, Reck?
I'm going to say everybody wins a fucking state today :lol
Mitch
03-08-2016, 08:15 PM
Most up to date Michigan polls here, that'll be the only interesting one since Kasich put all his chips here.
http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/march-8th-gop/
Mitch
03-08-2016, 08:22 PM
:lol Little Rubio doing terribly in the two big states
Mitch
03-08-2016, 08:49 PM
I guess Cruz has Idaho, I assume he'll win that rural area :lol
:lol Little Rubio doing terribly in the two big states
How can he keep spinning this shit? He is sucking hard.
Mitch
03-08-2016, 08:52 PM
How can he keep spinning this shit? He is sucking hard.
He might drop out tonight if he doesn't win Hawaii, I have a strong feeling he has that one but can't find a good recent poll. Losing Florida + zero states today would destroy him.
What's your expectations for your boy today, Reck (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412)?
I'm going to say everybody wins a fucking state today :lol
Being outvoted by Kasich. :lol
He's been done for months now. But he's going to stay in until next week. After that I expect him to drop out.
He might drop out tonight if he doesn't win Hawaii, I have a strong feeling he has that one but can't find a good recent poll. Losing Florida + zero states today would destroy him.
I would be shocked if it he dropped out tonight. He seems to have convinced himself he is going to win Florida and somehow that's going to be his saving grace.
Mitch
03-08-2016, 08:55 PM
Being outvoted by Kasich. :lol
He's been done for months now. But he's going to stay in until next week. After that I expect him to drop out.
Get this: He's being outvoted by Ben fucking Carson in Mississippi :lmao
Mitch
03-08-2016, 08:57 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdEe8BKXIAAIaVj.jpg:large
spurraider21
03-08-2016, 08:59 PM
hillary is slowly but surely closing the gap in michigan. bernie needs this imo
hillary is slowly but surely closing the gap in michigan. bernie needs this imo
Either way, big win for Bernie. If she wins it she's not going to win it by much. They'll end up splitting delegates.
Mitch
03-08-2016, 09:04 PM
Either way, big win for Bernie. If she wins it she's not going to win it by much. They'll end up splitting delegates.
Only guy who has a 100% chance to win the election, Hillary's skeletons might destroy her.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdEe8BKXIAAIaVj.jpg:large
This guy is really done.
His political career will be essentially finshed after this. His term in Florida is almost over. Much like Chris Christie.
boutons_deux
03-08-2016, 09:11 PM
Hillary's skeletons might destroy her.
nah, Repugs got nothing on her, all witch hunting for 25 years.
Mitch that site you gave is giving Hillary Michigan the win already. How legit is that? They they messed up? Bernie is killing her so far.
Mitch
03-08-2016, 09:15 PM
This guy is really done.
His political career will be essentially finshed after this. His term in Florida is almost over. Much like Chris Christie.
Kind of sad, you have to ask whether or not he should have even tried. Maybe if he had another 16yrs experience he'd have a shot.
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 09:15 PM
I guess Cruz has Idaho, I assume he'll win that rural area :lol
Nah, Idaho is ground central of pissed off white militiamen. Trump has a pretty nice lead in the polls there.
Mitch
03-08-2016, 09:16 PM
Mitch (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=36270) that site you gave is giving Hillary Michigan the win already. How legit is that? They they messed up? Bernie is killing her so far.
They make mistakes when updating sometimes, but they also get their results a lot faster so it's hard to say.
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 09:17 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdEe8BKXIAAIaVj.jpg:large
:rollin
Looks like Trump is picking up some of the momentum he lost on Super Tuesday.
Mitch
03-08-2016, 09:18 PM
Nah, Idaho is ground central of pissed off white militiamen. Trump has a pretty nice lead in the polls there.
Trump had good polling in Kansas, what was that a 25% loss? :lol
If Cruz is gonna win something, it'll be Idaho or Hawaii if they gave up on Rubio.
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 09:19 PM
Get this: He's being outvoted by Ben fucking Carson in Mississippi :lmao
:rollin
Isn't he just staying in the race to pull votes from Trump though?
Splits
03-08-2016, 09:19 PM
:lmao Little Marco. Getting his shit pushed in, gonna get 0 delegates out of MI and MS
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 09:20 PM
Trump had good polling in Kansas, what was that a 25% loss? :lol
If Cruz is gonna win something, it'll be Idaho or Hawaii if they gave up on Rubio.
IDK, Idaho is full of the angry white males that make up Trump's base.
Watching Trump Press Conference... this is the most insecure man in America. :lol
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 09:22 PM
Watching Trump Press Conference... this is the most insecure man in America. :lol
Still waiting for him to pull his dick out in one of the debates
Mitch
03-08-2016, 09:23 PM
IDK, Idaho is full of the angry white males that make up Trump's base.
That's a big base, tbh
All white guys are angry these days
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 09:24 PM
That's a big base, tbh
All white guys are angry these days
Yeah, but this is Bundytard territory.
Mitch
03-08-2016, 09:24 PM
Yeah, but this is Bundytard territory.
:lol
All the southern states with uneducated blacks have passed. The Bern's takeover starts with Michigan today tbh.
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 09:27 PM
All the southern states with uneducated blacks have passed. The Bern's takeover starts with Michigan today tbh.
What the hell do you think the population of Michigan is? :lol
Mitch
03-08-2016, 09:28 PM
What the hell do you think the population of Michigan is? :lol
The good people of Detroit are a good example
Splits
03-08-2016, 09:30 PM
Looks like it might be time for Romney to give another speech :lol
What the hell do you think the population of Michigan is? :lol
80% white, 14% black
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 09:31 PM
I wouldn't put too much hope in Bernie taking Michigan. Fivethirtyeight reports Detroit and Flint have yet to report.
Mitch
03-08-2016, 09:31 PM
Looks like it might be time for Romney to give another speech :lol
Jeanine Pirro might need to take him out
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 09:33 PM
Jeanine Pirro might need to take him out
The bitch from the Robert Durst case?
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 09:34 PM
From fivethirtyeight.com
HARRY ENTEN 9:33 PM
I’m looking on the Wayne County clerk’s website to try to get an idea of where the vote is being reported from in Wayne County. It seems, at least as of earlier this hour, that Detroit was at 0 percent. The nearly uniformly white areas of Grosse Pointe Shores and Plymouth were at 100 percent. In other words, the percentages coming out of Wayne County right now don’t really reflect how black areas are voting.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdEe8BKXIAAIaVj.jpg:large
:lol
Mitch
03-08-2016, 09:37 PM
Cruz is going to overtake Kasich at his 2nd home, damn :lol
Mitch
03-08-2016, 09:38 PM
The bitch from the Robert Durst case?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VMZSXzy7O0
The Bern was down 20-30% in polls. As long as he keeps it close it'll be a win tbh.
Trump belittling one of his questioner. :lmao
This guy is a joke.
Splits
03-08-2016, 09:46 PM
MARCO
POLL LOW!
:lmao this nigga getting single digits
Hillary hasn't won more than 2 counties. :lmao
I dont see how you make up a 20 thousand vote defecit.
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 09:49 PM
LOL is this twat really going to lose Michigan?
CosmicCowboy
03-08-2016, 09:52 PM
LOL is this twat really going to lose Michigan?
:lmao
Looks like it...:lol
Mitch
03-08-2016, 09:54 PM
Is Kasich still going to stay in? He campaigned hard in Michigan and he might come in 3rd.
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 09:55 PM
Fucking shit, Matt Bonner is playing :pctoss
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 09:55 PM
oops, wrong thread, still, fucking Butler getting cut :pctoss
Dumbass negroes from Detroit smh.
Will Hunting
03-08-2016, 10:03 PM
Maybe Sanders really does have a shot since he doesn't have as many uneducated n!ggers in the northern states.
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 10:04 PM
Clinton has closed to within 1.6 points of Sanders in Michigan. I guess those Detroit votes just came in.
Will Hunting
03-08-2016, 10:04 PM
Dumbass negroes from Detroit smh.
but Bill Clinton plays da sax jus like muh daddeh i never met. muh dick muh dick muh dick!!!
Dumbass negroes from Detroit smh.
?
I think Bernie build such a huge gap that those votes won't matter.
He's leading her by like 30 thousand votes.
?
I think Bernie build such a huge gap that those votes won't matter.
He's leading her by like 30 thousand votes.
just 9K now
Clinton has closed to within 1.6 points of Sanders in Michigan. I guess those Detroit votes just came in.
Where are you getting this from?
CNN and that site Mitch gave are worthless. LOL
He's shown with a massive lead.
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 10:06 PM
?
I think Bernie build such a huge gap that those votes won't matter.
He's leading her by like 30 thousand votes.
The race has gotten pretty close the last 5 minutes.
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 10:07 PM
Where are you getting this from?
CNN and that site Mitch gave are worthless. LOL
He's shown with a massive lead.
What are you using? I'm using CNN since they're updating quicker than the others I looked at.
Will Hunting
03-08-2016, 10:07 PM
This is just a prime example of how civil rights/integration killed the democratic party.
What are you using? I'm using CNN since they're updating quicker than the others I looked at.
Switching between the CNN channel and Decision Desk HQ.
While Netflixting. lol
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 10:09 PM
Switching between the CNN channel and Decision Desk HQ.
While Netflixting. lol
Decision Desk is showing 36% reporting in Michigan, CNN has 57%. I'll stick with CNN.
spurraider21
03-08-2016, 10:10 PM
delegates are 41-41 in michigan right now... bernie needs to close the delegate gap more than this. not lookin good :depressed
spurraider21
03-08-2016, 10:11 PM
CNN's live odds say Bernie only has 27% chance of claiming michigan
CosmicCowboy
03-08-2016, 10:12 PM
Hillary should take the urban areas that are late reporting.
Pelicans78
03-08-2016, 10:12 PM
What the hell do you think the population of Michigan is? :lol
Not as near as much as in the South. Otherwise she would be winning easily.
Das Texan
03-08-2016, 10:14 PM
Is Kasich still going to stay in? He campaigned hard in Michigan and he might come in 3rd.
He will easily get 2nd.
The bigger question is why is Rubio still in? Kasich has a chance to actually flip that 'establishment' vote if he can win Ohio next week. Rubio appears toast in Florida.
CosmicCowboy
03-08-2016, 10:16 PM
Yeah Rubio is toast.
Splits
03-08-2016, 10:16 PM
No Idaho results/exit polls???
This is the one time every 4 years I give a fuck about Idaho.
Will Hunting
03-08-2016, 10:18 PM
Not as near as much as in the South. Otherwise she would be winning easily.
The black people in Northern states also aren't as stupid as the southern ones. Southern blacks typically have a room temperature IQ and simply vote how their pastor tells them to.
Pelicans78
03-08-2016, 10:18 PM
This is just a prime example of how civil rights/integration killed the democratic party.
Republicans were leading the charge in the 50s until JFK helped MLK get out of jail.
delegates are 41-41 in michigan right now... bernie needs to close the delegate gap more than this. not lookin good :depressed
Still a bunch of states left and she doesn't have any more Southern states to lean on. Holding serve in Michigan is already a win for Bernie. He'll close the gap in the upcoming primaries.
Will Hunting
03-08-2016, 10:22 PM
Still a bunch of states left and she doesn't have any more Southern states to lean on. Holding serve in Michigan is already a win for Bernie. He'll close the gap in the upcoming primaries.
He's still going to be fighting a huge uphill because of the fucking super delegates.
Pelicans78
03-08-2016, 10:23 PM
Wow Cruz has almost tied Kasich in Michigan.
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 10:23 PM
:lol
707397269184778241
Still a bunch of states left and she doesn't have any more Southern states to lean on. Holding serve in Michigan is already a win for Bernie. He'll close the gap in the upcoming primaries.
Yeah but if she wins Florida AND Ohio, than its time for good old bernie to pack it in.
Will Hunting
03-08-2016, 10:25 PM
:lol
707400824025194497
Bernie is still doing a horrible job at attacking her neo conservative stance on foreign policy.
Pelicans78
03-08-2016, 10:25 PM
He's still going to be fighting a huge uphill because of the fucking super delegates.
What's he really doing is showing how flawed Hillary is as a candidate, especially going up against someone with a broad support as Trump.
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 10:28 PM
Bernie is still doing a horrible job at attacking her neo conservative stance on foreign policy.
LOL I posted the wrong tweet. I meant to post the one about the Arabs all voting for the Jew. :lol
But yeah, how the hell is Sanders not killing her for that shit? Who gives a shit if he pisses off the democrats, he's not one anyways.
Will Hunting
03-08-2016, 10:29 PM
What's he really doing is showing how flawed Hillary is as a candidate, especially going up against someone with a broad support as Trump.
I never thought I'd vote Republican in my entire life but I'd consider it if we have Trump vs. Hilary. Either way, it'd still be hard for Trump to pull off because of how big the fundraising gap would be.
Pelicans78
03-08-2016, 10:31 PM
Bernie is still doing a horrible job at attacking her neo conservative stance on foreign policy.
He could attack her in so many ways. Surprising he hasn't done it.
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 10:32 PM
Not looking good for Cunton in Michigan. Damn if Bernie can take Florida can he get enough momentum to swing the superdelegates like Obama 08? Then again, Obama is a house ###### not a whole lot different from that bitch, whereas Bernie isn't a Wall Street shill.
Will Hunting
03-08-2016, 10:32 PM
LOL I posted the wrong tweet. I meant to post the one about the Arabs all voting for the Jew. :lol
But yeah, how the hell is Sanders not killing her for that shit? Who gives a shit if he pisses off the democrats, he's not one anyways.
He's making the same mistake McCain made in the 2000 Republican primary living by some misguided code of honor where you don't run anything negative on the other candidate. 21st century politics is just as much if not more about destroying your opponent than it is about making yourself a good candidate.
Pelicans78
03-08-2016, 10:33 PM
I never thought I'd vote Republican in my entire life but I'd consider it if we have Trump vs. Hilary. Either way, it'd still be hard for Trump to pull off because of how big the fundraising gap would be.
I wouldn't think twice about voting Trump over Hillary.
pgardn
03-08-2016, 10:34 PM
What's he really doing is showing how flawed Hillary is as a candidate, especially going up against someone with a broad support as Trump.
Broad support?
Thats over 50 % of the eligible voters. "Look at that face." "Meghan is menstruating"
Sure thing.
Ubiquitous support of angry white males.
pgardn
03-08-2016, 10:35 PM
I wouldn't think twice about voting Hillary over Trump.
Makes me want to vomit though.
Pelicans78
03-08-2016, 10:36 PM
I think Hillary will win Florida pretty solidly. Only issue for her would be the Cuban population.
Pelicans78
03-08-2016, 10:36 PM
Makes me want to vomit though.
Elections are always about the lesser of two evils.
Dirk Oneanddoneski
03-08-2016, 10:39 PM
Dumbass negroes from Detroit smh.
Is this your girl?
http://i.imgur.com/I5P2qMS.jpg
Pelicans78
03-08-2016, 10:39 PM
Cruz has basically tied Kasich in Michigan.
spurraider21
03-08-2016, 10:42 PM
CNN's live odds now give sanders 70% chance of taking michigan, but that thing has been all over the place
Will Hunting
03-08-2016, 10:46 PM
After tonight, there's no way Rubio should still be in the race, so I'm curious if Trump successfully trolls him into staying in the race for Florida so he can steal votes from Cruz.
Bernie is still doing a horrible job at attacking her neo conservative stance on foreign policy.
100% agreed
Pelicans78
03-08-2016, 10:52 PM
After tonight, there's no way Rubio should still be in the race, so I'm curious if Trump successfully trolls him into staying in the race for Florida so he can steal votes from Cruz.
According to the big donor script that Rubio has to read, he has a great chance to win Florida :lol
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 10:59 PM
CROFL that bitch is going to lose a state she was supposed to win by 20%. :lol
Fivethirtyeight had her as a 99% favorite in Michigan :lmao
Pelicans78
03-08-2016, 11:04 PM
Losing by 40,000 votes. She sucks lol
hater
03-08-2016, 11:09 PM
:lmao Shillary :lol
pgardn
03-08-2016, 11:11 PM
:lmao Shillary :lol
She gonna be YOUR president.
Mitch
03-08-2016, 11:12 PM
Cruz doing good in Idaho, figured, that fucker thrives off farmers.
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 11:12 PM
From fivethirtyeight
HARRY ENTEN 11:11 PM
Sanders’s lead just dropped to about 24,000 votes with some more of Wayne County reporting. Wayne (at 75 percent) is still behind the overall state count (81 percent) in terms of precincts reporting, but 24,000 is still a healthy lead. We’ll see what happens next.
hater
03-08-2016, 11:17 PM
:lmao shillary
With all d Clinton money, wall street, military complex and even the neocons behind her. And she can't put away a 74 year old Polish socialist :lmao
As Donald would say CHOKEARTIST!!!!!
In terms of delegates she'll be fine but Bernie has won like 5 out of the last 7 states.
Them Superdelegates are her saving grace. She'll lose them if she keeps losing like this.
Them Superdelegates are her saving grace. She'll lose them if she keeps losing like this.
If Bernie wins the delegate count during the primaries no way will the superdelegates not flip. The voters would start a riot otherwise.
Pelicans78
03-08-2016, 11:25 PM
Cruz doing good in Idaho, figured, that fucker thrives off farmers.
It's close now.
Pelicans78
03-08-2016, 11:27 PM
Cruz finally nudged ahead Kasich in Michigan.
ElNono
03-08-2016, 11:27 PM
Shillary paging the hacker that got into her email server to stuff some more votes for her in Michigan, tbh :lol
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 11:27 PM
:lmao shillary
With all d Clinton money, wall street, military complex and even the neocons behind her. And she can't put away a 74 year old Polish socialist :lmao
As Donald would say CHOKEARTIST!!!!!
Shades of 2013
http://i.imgur.com/5bZKEjc.jpg
If Bernie wins the delegate count during the primaries no way will the superdelegates not flip. The voters would start a riot otherwise.
That's true. They will switch.
This was a big night for him. A moral victory.
Hillary will still come out with more delegates tonight. She took a huge blow though.
baseline bum
03-08-2016, 11:31 PM
NATE SILVER 11:30 PM
One reminder about the Democratic calendar: Although there are a lot of reasonably good Clinton states on March 15 — according to both polls and demographics — we then have a stretch of states that look quite strong for Sanders. These include Idaho, Utah, Arizona, Alaska, Washington, Hawaii, Wisconsin and Wyoming, all of which vote from March 22 to April 9.
So if Clinton underperforms her polls on March 15 in states such as Ohio as she did tonight in Michigan — and pollsters probably ought to be checking their turnout models carefully after tonight — she could have a really long few weeks ahead, even though Sanders’s delegate math remains highly challenging.
Called.
Sanders takes Michigan.
Mitch
03-08-2016, 11:36 PM
It's close now.
Boise is favoring Trump, so it should stay close.
Sanders cant win, even when he wins. :lol
She'll take home about 20 more delegates than Bernie. Terrible
All states should be take all.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6gaSwGsD99AK29wc/giphy.gif
Sanders cant win, even when he wins. :lol
She'll take home about 20 more delegates than Bernie. Terrible
All states should be take all.
Who cares. The schedule was frontloaded for Shillary with all the southern states, including Mississippi today. It should favor Bernie going forward.
If Bernie survives Florida, Ohio and North Carolina, he'll get the nomination.
Who cares. The schedule was frontloaded for Shillary with all the southern states, including Mississippi today. It should favor Bernie going forward.
Yeah but as long as she gets high percentages she'll get a nice slide of the delegates. Bernie is still behind by about 200 normal delegates. You have to win via blowouts and I dont think that will happen.
So, if its always going to be 50/50, he's not going to move the needdle.
Yeah but as long as she gets high percentages she'll get a nice slide of the delegates. Bernie is still behind by about 200 normal delegates. You have to win via blowouts and I dont think that will happen.
So, if its always going to be 50/50, he's not going to move the needdle.
For sure but obviously he has a better chance to win by wider margins in upcoming states than he did today in Michigan. Hopefully he can pull of the comeback.
Mitch
03-09-2016, 12:04 AM
Cruz will believe he's still in this with strength, even though he's going to be dominated in states where people don't fuck their cousins
Mitch Your boss Trumpster getting a taste of that Cruz smegma tonight. :lol
This fucking negro on CNN is dick riding Shillary hard tbh.
baseline bum
03-09-2016, 12:15 AM
This fucking negro on CNN is dick riding Shillary hard tbh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSbVAde9xfo
Mitch
03-09-2016, 12:18 AM
Mitch (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=36270) Your boss Trumpster getting a taste of that Cruz smegma tonight. :lol
In Idaho? I already called that shit, farmers love Cruz.
Pelicans78
03-09-2016, 12:23 AM
Cruz will win the Midwest and Big Sky areas but not enough to pass Trump.
Pelicans78
03-09-2016, 12:24 AM
From my math, Trump has won 58 delegates while Cruz has won 49.
spurraider21
03-09-2016, 12:29 AM
kasich still got more delegates than cruz in michigan, not that any of it matters
What's happening with Hawaii. The fuck are the results for that? :lol
Pelicans78
03-09-2016, 12:37 AM
kasich still got more delegates than cruz in michigan, not that any of it matters
They both ended up with 17 which was a win for Cruz and a bad sign for Kasich next week at Ohio.
Pelicans78
03-09-2016, 12:38 AM
Rubio most likely will get zero delegates in Idaho. He needs to get 20% of the vote, but he's only at 17.8 %.
Mitch
03-09-2016, 12:45 AM
What's happening with Hawaii. The fuck are the results for that? :lol
Have to remember they're like an hour behind pacific time.
InRareForm
03-09-2016, 12:47 AM
Why is rubio still in? If the game plan is to steer delegates from trump, he isn't even doing that at this point
spurraider21
03-09-2016, 12:48 AM
Have to remember they're like an hour behind pacific time.
2 hours
spurraider21
03-09-2016, 12:48 AM
They both ended up with 17 which was a win for Cruz and a bad sign for Kasich next week at Ohio.
ah, last i saw was 17-15. thanks for update
Mitch
03-09-2016, 12:50 AM
2 hours
Damn, I always thought it was just 1hr :lol
SnakeBoy
03-09-2016, 01:47 AM
Rubio most likely will get zero delegates in Idaho. He needs to get 20% of the vote, but he's only at 17.8 %.
Rubio got shut out on mainland delegates tonight. No threshold rule in Hawaii so he'll get some there, which will be enough for him to give yet another victory speech.
That old hag is leveling it off. Still lose it but knocked down his percentage to 49.
Mitch
03-09-2016, 02:20 AM
I was sure Hawaii would be all over Rubio, it's like everybody is avoiding him like the plague now
That old hag is leveling it off. Still lose it but knocked down his percentage to 49.
Who is an old hag?
Who is an old hag?
Hillary, obviously.
Despite Bernie's huge win, Hillary got 58 delegates to Sander's 65 in Michigan.
Aztecfan03
03-09-2016, 10:31 AM
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Hillary, obviously.
Despite Bernie's huge win, Hillary got 58 delegates to Sander's 65 in Michigan.
Sanders is 6 years older. So I wasn't sure who you were talking about.
Mitch
03-09-2016, 08:39 PM
Hillary, obviously.
Despite Bernie's huge win, Hillary got 58 delegates to Sander's 65 in Michigan.
Bern might be getting a little momentum at least, he was expected to lose big time. He needs to put on his big boy pants next debate and start taking advantage.
Pelicans78
03-12-2016, 02:16 PM
Cruz is dominating Wyoming right now. Currently has a huge majority and on his way to getting all 23 delegates with 26% reporting at this time.
Aztecfan03
03-12-2016, 04:48 PM
Cruz is dominating Wyoming right now. Currently has a huge majority and on his way to getting all 23 delegates with 26% reporting at this time.
Trump is at 6%!
There must be a lot less idiots up there. 57% reporting, but there is only about 400 total votes... Must be a bunch of tiny districts that have reported. And Kasich has 0 votes.
baseline bum
03-12-2016, 05:25 PM
Trump is at 6%!
There must be a lot less idiots up there. 57% reporting, but there is only about 400 total votes... Must be a bunch of tiny districts that have reported. And Kasich has 0 votes.
CROFL, Trump was at 37 votes with 57% of Wyoming precincts reporting, now he is at 37 votes with 65% reporting. :lmao
spurraider21
03-12-2016, 05:29 PM
And yet wyoming's presence in the Senate is the same as cali and NY
Mitch
03-12-2016, 05:35 PM
Should be cruz's best state, Wyoming is up there wirh Montana and the Dakota when we're talking about rural states.
baseline bum
03-12-2016, 05:39 PM
And yet wyoming's presence in the Senate is the same as cali and NY
Having a senate is fucking retarded. LOL our constitution.
spurraider21
03-12-2016, 06:05 PM
Having a senate is fucking retarded. LOL our constitution.
It's pretty dumb but it does help serve the majority rule =/= mob rule thing
baseline bum
03-12-2016, 06:08 PM
It's pretty dumb but it does help serve the majority rule =/= mob rule thing
Do you think that's a good tradeoff for scrapping the idea that every citizen has an equal vote though?
spurraider21
03-12-2016, 06:20 PM
Do you think that's a good tradeoff for scrapping the idea that every citizen has an equal vote though?
Not at all. The Senate can block a bill while representing like 20% of the population iirc. Or lower. Can't remember
baseline bum
03-12-2016, 06:54 PM
nevermind
Aztecfan03
03-12-2016, 08:49 PM
This can't be right. Less than 1000 people voted in Wyoming?
There's supposed to be 26 delegates but only have 11 for candidates right now. Trump has one delegate for beating rubio 21-19 in Teton and Sublette counties.
Should be cruz's best state, Wyoming is up there wirh Montana and the Dakota when we're talking about rural states.
So I guess the twitter backlash was just that. A minor rant by a few people.
dbestpro
03-12-2016, 11:08 PM
Wyoming has almost 1000 GOP votes, this is true. It is also true that they have less than 600,000 people, while Iowa had around 1400 democratic votes with 5 million people. Neither, really matters, but just keeping it all in perspective.
Mitch
03-12-2016, 11:08 PM
So I guess the twitter backlash was just that. A minor rant by a few people.
Read up about how the Wyoming caucuses are held, Reck. You'll be laughing.
Wait for the real states to point and laugh, tbh. Still haven't see what the picture looks, though, the smoke is still clearing. I think Cruz is going to get bit in the ass, but not sure about Kasich yet. Your boy Rubio shouldn't even be within 20 in Florida though :lol
Read up about how the Wyoming caucuses are held, Reck. You'll be laughing.
Wait for the real states to point and laugh, tbh. Still haven't see what the picture looks, though, the smoke is still clearing. I think Cruz is going to get bit in the ass, but not sure about Kasich yet. Your boy Rubio shouldn't even be within 20 in Florida though :lol
Rubio won something today? District of Columbia.
http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/results/2016/primary/gop/president/district-of-columbia/
Mitch
03-12-2016, 11:24 PM
Rubio won something today? District of Columbia.
http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/results/2016/primary/gop/president/district-of-columbia/
:lol Yeah, there's no really telling what DC is planning to do. Only 2.8k voters? I heard there were 6k on the news :lol
:lol Yeah, there's no really telling what DC is planning to do. Only 2.8k voters? I heard there were 6k on the news :lol
How many delegate is that?
I didn't even realize there were voting going on today. CNN is too doing whatever the fuck they're doing. :lol
Mitch
03-12-2016, 11:42 PM
How many delegate is that?
I didn't even realize there were voting going on today. CNN is too doing whatever the fuck they're doing. :lol
Same, I think Cruz netted 9 and Rubio I dunno, DC doesn't have much.
Same, I think Cruz netted 9 and Rubio I dunno, DC doesn't have much.
10 Apparently.
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/district-of-columbia
So essentially Marco won the night with 11 delegates.
Must have been a shitty day because there were zero coverage of this. :lol
Mitch
03-13-2016, 12:16 AM
10 Apparently.
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/district-of-columbia
So essentially Marco won the night with 11 delegates.
Must have been a shitty day because there were zero coverage of this. :lol
Just Trump coverage on Marco's big day. They didn't even tweet their thank yous like usual, I imagine those two wake up tomorrow and see on the news that they won something and think to themselves "Damn, I forgot to give out a victory speech."
baseline bum
03-13-2016, 12:16 AM
:lol Yeah, there's no really telling what DC is planning to do. Only 2.8k voters? I heard there were 6k on the news :lol
Voter ID tbh
SnakeBoy
03-13-2016, 01:33 AM
This can't be right. Less than 1000 people voted in Wyoming?
There's supposed to be 26 delegates but only have 11 for candidates right now. Trump has one delegate for beating rubio 21-19 in Teton and Sublette counties.
The Wyoming caucus started in February and doesn't actually end until April 14 when another 14 delegates will be awarded...
http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2012/02/28/147547065/wyoming-s-caucus-process-drawn-out-and-confusing
If you read up on it and actually understand it you're doing better than me...it's a pretty fucked up process.
SnakeBoy
03-13-2016, 01:37 AM
FiveThirtyEights delegate tracker is pretty good for getting an idea of where each candidate stands
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/delegate-targets/
Dirk Oneanddoneski
03-13-2016, 11:31 AM
10 Apparently.
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/district-of-columbia
So essentially Marco won the night with 11 delegates.
Must have been a shitty day because there were zero coverage of this. :lol
Trump has more protesters at his events than little Marco has supporters in his own state
http://i.imgur.com/snJgMXg.jpg
Ey Mitch how many states you reckon Bernie will win tomorrow?
I say 1, maybe 2.
Mitch
03-15-2016, 06:29 AM
Ey Mitch (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=36270) how many states you reckon Bernie will win tomorrow?
I say 1, maybe 2.
Probably one, any more is an upset
Probably one, any more is an upset
2 is very realistic and to be honest, expected.
Missouri and Illinois.
boutons_deux
03-15-2016, 08:16 AM
Having a senate is fucking retarded. LOL our constitution.
a non-proportional Senate is the problem
Mitch
03-15-2016, 09:14 AM
2 is very realistic and to be honest, expected.
Missouri and Illinois.
Wouldn't matter unless their winner take alls, but would be nice to get his nams up there some more to fuck with Hillary's ego. Heard Trump just snagged 9/9 delegates from the mariana islands at 70%. I thought Rubio would sweep the unknown territories :lol
Wouldn't matter unless their winner take alls, but would be nice to get his nams up there some more to fuck with Hillary's ego. Heard Trump just snagged 9/9 delegates from the mariana islands at 70%. I thought Rubio would sweep the unknown territories :lol
Dems don't have winner take alls. It's always proportionally allocated.
Hes got an insignificant lead in Florida right now. :lol
Its early as fuck but the fact he's even leading there right now is hilarious.
Mitch
03-15-2016, 09:53 AM
I heard Rubio had the advantage in early voting, some polling done had him +15% for early votes but the regular polling was really bad for him I think polling estimated hed lose by 25%.
Can't trust polls, though.
Dems don't have winner take alls. It's always proportionally allocated.
Hes got an insignificant lead in Florida right now. :lol
Its early as fuck but the fact he's even leading there right now is hilarious.
Ey Mitch how many states you reckon Bernie will win tomorrow?
I say 1, maybe 2.
He will sweep the midwest states. MO, IL, and OH tbh.
Mitch
03-15-2016, 10:37 AM
He will sweep the midwest states. MO, IL, and OH tbh.
Wouldn't matter, he's not going to get a significant margin over Hilary for a lions share. I think he only got 1 more that Hillary in Michigan
He will sweep the midwest states. MO, IL, and OH tbh.
So you're calling another 3 major upsets? :lol
I heard Rubio had the advantage in early voting, some polling done had him +15% for early votes but the regular polling was really bad for him I think polling estimated hed lose by 25%.
Can't trust polls, though.
I would think that early voting/absentee ballot would favor Trump, whose supporters are very sure of their vote. The late deciders never go Trump's way. But yes, polls are unreliable see Bernie in Michigan - overcame Hillary's 20 point leads.
Wouldn't matter, he's not going to get a significant margin over Hilary for a lions share. I think he only got 1 more that Hillary in Michigan
Probably but he just has to stay within striking distance. Winning those three would accomplish that imo.
So you're calling another 3 major upsets? :lol
Not really major. IIRC some recent polls had him with slight leads in IL and MO, and Shillary's lead in OH had dropped to single digits.
CosmicCowboy
03-15-2016, 04:32 PM
Bernie could win them all and still not get the nomination. Wasserman Shultz would bury her stiletto heel in his skull before she would allow that.
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 04:35 PM
Bernie could win them all and still not get the nomination. Wasserman Shultz would bury her stiletto heel in his skull before she would allow that.
Hillary had the same kind of superdelegate lead over Obama too, but no way they're switching to Bernie like they did with Barack unless he starts dominating her in primaries the way Obama did.
They will have to switch if Bernie catches up in pledged delegates. Not all of them will switch but enough to make the superdelegate votes moot and give the people what they want. There would be too much backlash if the superdelegates go against the choice of the people imo.
BTW this negro on CNN is fucking annoying. So biased for Shillary. :lol
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 04:48 PM
They will have to switch if Bernie catches up in pledged delegates. Not all of them will switch but enough to make the superdelegate votes moot and give the people what they want. There would be too much backlash if the superdelegates go against the choice of the people imo.
BTW this negro on CNN is fucking annoying. So biased for Shillary. :lol
Bernie would have to take a pretty clear lead. I'd love to see it happen, but I'm not expecting it. Obama got the youth vote and the minority vote, Bernie only has the youth. :depressed
Bernie could win them all and still not get the nomination. Wasserman Shultz would bury her stiletto heel in his skull before she would allow that.
She didn't even want to have more debates until both candidates basically forced her to.
Mitch
03-15-2016, 06:30 PM
No surprises in Florida so far, Trump holding around a 20% lead. Clinton should squeeze with a 30% lead
Mitch
03-15-2016, 06:34 PM
Exit polls giving it to Kasich in Ohio, keeping up with the polls. Looking more and more like a brokered convention every super day
Mitch
03-15-2016, 06:38 PM
Trump up ~10% in NC, should keep up with that.
Mitch
03-15-2016, 06:42 PM
Looks like two dominant Hillary victories in the making so far
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 06:54 PM
Clinton murdering Bernie
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 06:55 PM
Why in the fuck did Rubio stay in the race? Cruz could have taken Florida without Little Marco.
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 06:56 PM
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baseline bum
03-15-2016, 07:00 PM
Kasich up 13% in Ohio with 8% reporting.
djohn2oo8
03-15-2016, 07:07 PM
Kasich up 13% in Ohio with 8% reporting.
Likely he takes it. Cruz needs to win at least one tonight.
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 07:08 PM
Likely he takes it. Cruz needs to win at least one tonight.
CNN's exit polls have Cruz edging Trump out in Missouri.
Mitch
03-15-2016, 07:08 PM
Kasich should get the call soon, big lead. The rest are splits, I think trump needs 55% delegated remaining to avoid a convention which is doable.
Kasich will stay in to piss on voters and Rubio should leave by now, really embarrassing loss.
WTF is wrong with Ohio :pctoss
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 07:19 PM
WTF is wrong with Ohio :pctoss
You have to ask that after they gave Bush the presidency in 2004?
Mitch
03-15-2016, 07:20 PM
Damn, Marco is legit crying :lol
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 07:20 PM
LOL this 1964 ad I saw mentioned on the fivethirtyeight.com live feed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hcpedQmOyo
Yeah, I don't think our ads now are nearly that nasty. :lol
Mitch
03-15-2016, 07:21 PM
Buh bye, little Marco :lmao
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 07:22 PM
NATE SILVER 8:16 PM
It could be a long night of vote counting in Missouri and Illinois. Based on the gender split in preliminary exit polls, Trump narrowly leads Cruz 40-36 in Illinois, with about 20 percent of the vote for Kasich. In Missouri, Cruz has a very narrow 42-40 lead over Trump from the exit polls.
The Democratic side is just as close, although with good early news for Sanders. He leads Clinton by 4 points in the Missouri exit poll, and by 3 points in Illinois.
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 07:23 PM
Buh bye, little Marco :lmao
Did he quit?
Mitch
03-15-2016, 07:23 PM
Did he quit?
Yeah, just announced it.
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 07:25 PM
Yeah, just announced it.
Just watching little Elian right now. Send his ass back to Mexico.
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 07:26 PM
Little Marco saying god caused him to lose.
djohn2oo8
03-15-2016, 07:26 PM
Buh bye, little Marco :lmao
A smaller field could be worse for Trump.
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 07:27 PM
HARRY ENTEN 8:21 PM
The North Carolina Republican margin is down to 5 percentage points. Cruz is expanding his margin in Wake County as election day votes are counted. The fact that Cruz is down only 5 percentage points with many of the votes counted being early votes could be a good sign for him.
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 07:28 PM
A smaller field could be worse for Trump.
Yeah, so it's pretty critical for him to get Illinois and Missouri.
djohn2oo8
03-15-2016, 07:30 PM
HARRY ENTEN 8:21 PM
The North Carolina Republican margin is down to 5 percentage points. Cruz is expanding his margin in Wake County as election day votes are counted. The fact that Cruz is down only 5 percentage points with many of the votes counted being early votes could be a good sign for him.
Yeah Cruz can comeback. Will be interesting to see
Mitch
03-15-2016, 07:33 PM
A smaller field could be worse for Trump.
If it is then he was never going to have a shot anyways.
Kasich hardly ever polls well, people seem to strongly dislike Cruz.
Warlord23
03-15-2016, 07:35 PM
Many a book will be written about this GOP primary. House of Cards falls way short of what's been happening these last few months. Trump torpedoing the GOP establishment is a case of fact being stranger than fiction.
I feel bad for Rubio. He got bullied out of this race.
Hillary is also doing a lot better than I thought. She might sweep all of the states. Holy shit.
Mitch
03-15-2016, 07:39 PM
I feel bad for Rubio. He got bullied out of this race.
Hillary is also doing a lot better than I thought. She might sweep all of the states. Holy shit.
Feel bad about him more than Jeb!, tbh... he's not rich like a Bush :lol
Warlord23
03-15-2016, 07:41 PM
Trump's been shitposting on Twitter for the last hour or so, mostly attacking Megyn Kelly ... and that's after winning only FL so far. If he pulls out IL, NC and MO, he might wreck the internet.
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 07:49 PM
HARRY ENTEN 8:47 PM
Want to know why Clinton won Ohio? Look no further than white voters. According to the exit polls, she won white voters 51 percent to 48 percent. She lost them in Michigan by 14 percentage points.
djohn2oo8
03-15-2016, 07:49 PM
Like Mitch said, Rubio knew his ass was going to get whooped. Wht didn't he drop out sooner?
Mitch
03-15-2016, 07:49 PM
HARRY ENTEN 8:47 PM
Want to know why Clinton won Ohio? Look no further than white voters. According to the exit polls, she won white voters 51 percent to 48 percent. She lost them in Michigan by 14 percentage points.
Bernie has been turning off white voters by pandering to the others most likely
djohn2oo8
03-15-2016, 07:51 PM
Kasich wins Ohio.
HARRY ENTEN 8:47 PM
Want to know why Clinton won Ohio? Look no further than white voters. According to the exit polls, she won white voters 51 percent to 48 percent. She lost them in Michigan by 14 percentage points.
Probably the idiots who decided to vote republican to stop Trump.
Those defectors fucked her chances.
Probably but he just has to stay within striking distance. Winning those three would accomplish that imo.
Not really major. IIRC some recent polls had him with slight leads in IL and MO, and Shillary's lead in OH had dropped to single digits.
Nope. She's going to run the board. :lol
Rest in Peace, Bernie.
She got the 3 key states. Florida, Ohio and North Carolina.
Time to drop the mic.
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 08:00 PM
CARL BIALIK 8:58 PM
Trump and Cruz are now one candidate closer to their desired one-on-one matchup. It’s tempting to look at national polls to see how Trump and Cruz compare in voter support: Trump leads Cruz by 38 percent to 22 percent, according to our national polling average, while Cruz beats Trump head to head in some polls of their hypothetical matchup.
But after each state or territory holds its primary or caucus, its voters can no longer help either candidate. And Cruz is weaker in places that haven’t voted yet than in places that have.
Trump led Cruz by 17 points in places with votes on or before March 15, according to data provided by the online-polling company SurveyMonkey, based on its interviews of 8,624 Republican registered voters from Feb. 29 to March 6. But Trump’s lead expanded to 24 points in places that vote later.
In a hypothetical head-to-head against Cruz, Trump led by 1 point in places that had voted by today, but by 8 points everywhere else. As our delegate tracker indicates, Cruz needed a lead over Trump by now to be on track for a majority of delegates, because the voting gets tougher for him from here.
long live Bernie :depressed
this fucking dumb bitch talking about how her campaign depends on 'small donations'
Mitch
03-15-2016, 08:03 PM
long live Bernie :depressed
It's been a reality for a while, Bernie might have had a shot if all the states were WTA
Mitch
03-15-2016, 08:06 PM
Trump should get a big boost from Illinois, that's a winner take most. Bad day for Cruz, REALLY bad day for Bern.
Good day for Kasich, he just needs 112% of the delegates :lol
djohn2oo8
03-15-2016, 08:07 PM
Trump, besides Illinois, seems to be struggling to run away with those states like he did in the south. Had Rubio gotten out sooner Cruz may have taken North Carolina and Mizzou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3iBb1gvehI
fucking bitch sounding like this^ on CNN right now
Mitch
03-15-2016, 08:10 PM
Trump, besides Illinois, seems to be struggling to run away with those states like he did in the south. Had Rubio gotten out sooner Cruz may have taken North Carolina and Mizzou
He's pulling away with Missouri and NC should have a good demographic for Cruz (bible thumpers, farmers, etc)
Mitch
03-15-2016, 08:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3iBb1gvehI
fucking bitch sounding like this^ on CNN right now
Who you hate more, Trump or Hillary? :lol
Might be that choice come GE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3iBb1gvehI
fucking bitch sounding like this^ on CNN right now
Get behind that train or get ready for a Trump presidency.
Mitch
03-15-2016, 08:13 PM
Wonder if they called Ohio too early, Trump has been climbing up from -15% to now -6% and that's only with 25% in
It SHOULD be Kasich, tho
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 08:14 PM
DAVID WASSERMAN 9:10 PM
The Best News Of The Night For Trump So Far
All right, this is going to get nerdy, but it’s absolutely critical. There are very few GOP voters in Cook County, Illinois (Chicago), but the best news of the night for Trump so far might be that he’s winning it handily. That’s because there are three delegates at stake in each of Illinois’s 18 districts, regardless of how blue or red they are. In fact, Trump could win three delegates from a Chicago district with as few as 5,000 votes but then collect zero delegates from a Cruz-won downstate district with as many as 50,000 votes.
In early returns, Trump is taking 44 percent in Cook County to 23 percent for Kasich and 21 percent for Cruz. If that holds, he could win a bigger delegate margin out of the city of Chicago than he would win with a 15 percent margin of victory in the entire state of North Carolina. It’s a fascinating quirk of the Republican National Committee’s delegate allocation rules, and it wasn’t simply an accident or sign of provocation that Trump planned a Chicago rally last week.
Who you hate more, Trump or Hillary? :lol
Might be that choice come GE
Part of me thinks Trump is just taking advantage of all the undercover racists coming out of the woodwork, and that he's not really a racist. If he changes his tone with immigration once he's the Rep. nominee I would probably vote for him over Shillary tbh.
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 08:17 PM
Part of me thinks Trump is just taking advantage of all the undercover racists coming out of the woodwork, and that he's not really a racist. If he changes his tone with immigration once he's the Rep. nominee I would probably vote for him over Shillary tbh.
What if it was Clinton vs Parker?
this fucking dumb bitch talking about how her campaign depends on 'small donations'
She is such a liar. Don't know how she can look into the camera and tell such a bare-faced lie.
Rubio dropping out is good for Cruz - his manager encourages Rubio supporters to get behind Cruz. Kasich staying in the race is bad for Trump - will dilute his votes in states like NY, PA, NJ, etc. - the worst of all situations. Trump won't make the 1237.
Mitch
03-15-2016, 08:17 PM
Part of me thinks Trump is just taking advantage of all the undercover racists coming out of the woodwork, and that he's not really a racist. If he changes his tone with immigration once he's the Rep. nominee I would probably vote for him over Shillary tbh.
You ok with wall + no deportation?
djohn2oo8
03-15-2016, 08:19 PM
Cruz closing gap in Missouri
Kasich getting interrupted by a Trump bitch. :lol
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 08:20 PM
She is such a liar. Don't know how she can look into the camera and tell such a bare-faced lie.
Rubio dropping out is good for Cruz - his manager encourages Rubio supporters to get behind Cruz. Kasich staying in the race is bad for Trump - will dilute his votes in states like NY, PA, NJ, etc. - the worst of all situations. Trump won't make the 1237.
Yeah, I don't know why so many Republicans I know want Kasich out. Kasich is hugely important for denying Trump the nomination. Rubio should have been gone at least a week ago though for them to deny Trump.
Mitch
03-15-2016, 08:21 PM
Kasich getting interrupted by a Trump bitch. :lol
That's pretty rare for a trumpster to interrupt a rally, ain't it? :lol
You ok with wall + no deportation?
Dont believe anything he says. He'll vote Hillary or get the family scorn. :lol
What if it was Clinton vs Parker?
Easily Shillary tbh.
You ok with wall + no deportation?
If by no deportation you mean some sort of amnesty then yeah probably.
Dont believe anything he says. He'll vote Hillary or get the family scorn. :lol
I'll be honest, I wouldn't tell my family the truth. I'd tell them I voted for Shillary. :lol
Mitch
03-15-2016, 08:27 PM
"I will not take the low road to the highest office in the land"
:lol You're fucking trying to push a brokered convention where the candidate will probably be hand picked instead of the popular choice. Trump & Cruz should just join up and say fuck the establishment, yeah that would be a really dumb ticket but this kind of shit is going to cause big problems.
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 08:28 PM
Easily Shillary tbh.
Clinton would prob try to fuck your wife too though tbh
Clinton would prob try to fuck your wife too though tbh
:lol
How many bitches you think he's fucked while Hillary is away campaigning? Cuck queen. :lol
baseline bum
03-15-2016, 08:33 PM
Shit, I forgot Kasich might not be on the Pennsylvania ballot. That would be a huge blow to the stop trump movement :lol
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