View Full Version : Game Thread: Spurs vs Warriors -- Sat. (3/19) - 7:30PM CST (2:30AM Riga Time)
davidbowie
03-19-2016, 07:44 PM
LMA is trash smh
Canyonero
03-19-2016, 07:44 PM
Kawhi ffs
hitmanyr2k
03-19-2016, 07:44 PM
Spurs putting on a clinic on how to miss layups.
davidbowie
03-19-2016, 07:44 PM
we should be up 10 by now
Kawhi had curry on him... Parker ignores him..
Ron Swanson
03-19-2016, 07:44 PM
Kawhi blowing layups now
davidbowie
03-19-2016, 07:44 PM
why's tp shooting three's
Canyonero
03-19-2016, 07:44 PM
Parker :lol
From Downtown
03-19-2016, 07:45 PM
Parker playing bad on O
NASpurs
03-19-2016, 07:45 PM
Warriors don't even respect Porker :lol
Kawhitstorm
03-19-2016, 07:45 PM
Porky:sleep
SupremeGuy
03-19-2016, 07:45 PM
Parker is GS's MVP :lol
From Downtown
03-19-2016, 07:45 PM
YES BOBO
beirmeistr
03-19-2016, 07:45 PM
Here comes tony to bury us early.
the Undertaker
TXstbobcat
03-19-2016, 07:45 PM
:bobo
Uriel
03-19-2016, 07:45 PM
Early observations:
1. Denying Curry the ball
2. Attacking the passing lanes
3. Tony being the focal point of the offense
Canyonero
03-19-2016, 07:45 PM
Bobo!!!
Kawhitstorm
03-19-2016, 07:45 PM
Nice post entry Porker:lol
steeledl
03-19-2016, 07:45 PM
Diaw1!!
01Snake
03-19-2016, 07:45 PM
Comedy of fuckups so far
TXstbobcat
03-19-2016, 07:46 PM
Bobo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From Downtown
03-19-2016, 07:46 PM
FUCKING YES BOBO
steeledl
03-19-2016, 07:46 PM
Diaw is back!!!
loveforthegame
03-19-2016, 07:46 PM
Bobo!
Ron Swanson
03-19-2016, 07:46 PM
:bobo
AZK619
03-19-2016, 07:46 PM
Diaw woke the fuck up :toast
itzsoweezee
03-19-2016, 07:46 PM
Really would be better with Patty here
hitmanyr2k
03-19-2016, 07:46 PM
I've said it time and time again. Diaw is the best post player on the Spurs. They need to force feed that big donut down there.
tholdren
03-19-2016, 07:46 PM
Good call with the diaw move. the help defense sucks though
Are you kidding me Parker.. curry on aldridge..
Pass the damn ball. Aldridge is destroying them down low and getting no inlet pass.
SupremeGuy
03-19-2016, 07:47 PM
the Undertaker:lol
:bang
TheGreatYacht
03-19-2016, 07:47 PM
Retarded timeout by Poop, per par
spursparker9
03-19-2016, 07:47 PM
lol bobo
PopTheGOAT
03-19-2016, 07:47 PM
Are you kidding me Parker.. curry on aldridge..
Pass the damn ball. Aldridge is destroying them down low and getting no inlet pass.
Agreed
spursistan
03-19-2016, 07:47 PM
Pop came to coach :lol
TheGreatYacht
03-19-2016, 07:47 PM
Kiwi choking :lol
BillMc
03-19-2016, 07:47 PM
Timmy ultimate team player. Build his statue now.
SupremeGuy
03-19-2016, 07:47 PM
Are you kidding me Parker.. curry on aldridge..
Pass the damn ball. Aldridge is destroying them down low and getting no inlet pass.Why are they leaving Danny and Aldridge so open? :lol
keeferob25
03-19-2016, 07:47 PM
Barnes is allowed to push diaw too smh
PopTheGOAT
03-19-2016, 07:48 PM
Good call with the diaw move. the help defense sucks though
Spurtacular
03-19-2016, 07:48 PM
Pop came to coach :lol
Yea, but he didn't replace Parker in the starting lineup while he was at it.
Nathan89
03-19-2016, 07:48 PM
Just take Tony off the court and put Kevin Martin in. Generate the offense with Boris. Can't have some non shooting scrub defensive player on the court. Definitely not when we have a huge mismatch with Boris.
SPURt
03-19-2016, 07:48 PM
Is Kawhi going to ever look for his shot?
PopTheGOAT
03-19-2016, 07:48 PM
Timmy ultimate team player. Build his statue now.
Uriel
03-19-2016, 07:48 PM
Loving how intensely Pop is coaching this game :tu
FaM0us Skins
03-19-2016, 07:48 PM
Diaw is a boss
Why are they leaving Danny and Aldridge so open? :lol
:lol freaking Parker man..
Nathan89
03-19-2016, 07:49 PM
Barnes is allowed to push diaw too smh
Draymond plays defense like that.
Horse
03-19-2016, 07:49 PM
I like what Boris is doing but the team plays like giant pussies without TD.
Trainwreck2100
03-19-2016, 07:49 PM
warriors not respecting parker, 2 missed layups
maverick1948
03-19-2016, 07:49 PM
Fastest 5 min on the clock I think I have seen in a long time. It seemed to go by really fast.
Bobo is preparing for the playoffs. 6 points already.
steeledl
03-19-2016, 07:49 PM
Is Kawhi going to ever look for his shot?
He is nervous
PopTheGOAT
03-19-2016, 07:49 PM
Is Kawhi going to ever look for his shot?
Passed on a wide open three that's turn into Warriors FB score smh
FaM0us Skins
03-19-2016, 07:50 PM
KL!
TXstbobcat
03-19-2016, 07:50 PM
:claw
Great follow Kawhi. We missing bunnies. We will get those soon.
Ron Swanson
03-19-2016, 07:51 PM
Like Bobo's aggressive play down low.
TXstbobcat
03-19-2016, 07:51 PM
LMA slam!!!!!!
From Downtown
03-19-2016, 07:51 PM
LMALPHA FROM BOBO
sinok
03-19-2016, 07:51 PM
BOBO!!!
Canyonero
03-19-2016, 07:51 PM
MVDiaw
loveforthegame
03-19-2016, 07:51 PM
There you go!
baseline bum
03-19-2016, 07:51 PM
Fucking hell I hope Parker on Curry is just Pop not wanting to tip his hand in the regular season. Though I doubt it since he let Parker guard Paul last playoffs.
Kawhitstorm
03-19-2016, 07:51 PM
Diaw should just take Barnes to the torture chamber right away.
All damn day for aldridge if someone gets a good pass..
SPURt
03-19-2016, 07:51 PM
Bobo is abusing these fools. Barnes is going to blow a lung through his rape whistle.
steeledl
03-19-2016, 07:51 PM
ALPHA AS FUCK
loveforthegame
03-19-2016, 07:52 PM
:bang
SupremeGuy
03-19-2016, 07:52 PM
Parker not getting respected on either side of the court... shit why is he even in?
TXstbobcat
03-19-2016, 07:52 PM
:lma
Kawhitstorm
03-19-2016, 07:52 PM
Worriers ignoring Curry & using his man to double:sleep
steeledl
03-19-2016, 07:52 PM
ALPHAAAAA
loveforthegame
03-19-2016, 07:52 PM
LMA aggressive.
spursparker9
03-19-2016, 07:52 PM
Porker the liability on D
hitmanyr2k
03-19-2016, 07:53 PM
I like how the Spurs are playing strictly from the post dictating the tempo. They're not letting GS get out in that running game.
tholdren
03-19-2016, 07:53 PM
keep taking to paint
mudyez
03-19-2016, 07:53 PM
pound it pound it pound it
AZK619
03-19-2016, 07:53 PM
MVP chant for Kawhi :claw
loveforthegame
03-19-2016, 07:53 PM
MVP chants. :tu
FaM0us Skins
03-19-2016, 07:53 PM
LmAlpha
dabom
03-19-2016, 07:53 PM
MVP MVP!!!
Uriel
03-19-2016, 07:53 PM
Loving how the AT&T is chanting MVP for Kawhi with Steph in the building :tu
Rob123
03-19-2016, 07:53 PM
Kawhi is playing like puss. LMA is playing like a boss
Chris
03-19-2016, 07:53 PM
Kerr got butthurt about the MVP chants so he called timeout :lol
TheGreatYacht
03-19-2016, 07:53 PM
Team Alpha and Diaw carrying
keeferob25
03-19-2016, 07:54 PM
Sick of these fucking refs allowing our bigs to be bodied like they are!
spursparker9
03-19-2016, 07:54 PM
MVP!
TheGreatYacht
03-19-2016, 07:54 PM
Kawhi is playing like puss. LMA is playing like a boss
SupremeGuy
03-19-2016, 07:54 PM
The fans at the arena know what's up. No bitch ass cat crew members there.
:claw
beirmeistr
03-19-2016, 07:55 PM
how about patty for porks?
Nathan89
03-19-2016, 07:55 PM
Sick of these fucking refs allowing our bigs to be bodied like they are!
Yeah, it's bullshit. You can't allow them to play differently because they are small.
dabom
03-19-2016, 07:55 PM
The fans at the arena know what's up. No bitch ass cat crew members there.
:claw
spursistan
03-19-2016, 07:55 PM
Parker is just spectator out there..
BillMc
03-19-2016, 07:55 PM
Boris 3.0?
tbdog
03-19-2016, 07:56 PM
Parker not getting respected on either side of the court... shit why is he even in?
I will take a Klay midrange turn around fadaway jumper over Parker than any where else by anyone else that the Warriors usually get.
I said Aldridge was brought in specifically for GS, Thunder, Clippers. Has always played great against all of them. His skill set is hard for them to handle. That's why they went for him over Gasol. Let C.I.A. pop get them on the right page and get someone who can get an inlet pass to LMA and Kawhi. Warriors legs from being posted and run around will effect their shots.
SPURt
03-19-2016, 07:56 PM
Loving how the AT&T is chanting MVP for Kawhi with Steph in the building :tu
Me too!
TXstbobcat
03-19-2016, 07:56 PM
Boris 3.0?
:bobo
Yeah, it's bullshit. You can't allow them to play differently because they are small.
Nice Bernie sig brah. I saw a shirt with that design on Amazon, was planning on buying it tbh.
Southwest Texas Fan
03-19-2016, 07:56 PM
Boris 3.0?
:tu:tu:tu
boutons_deux
03-19-2016, 07:56 PM
Stands are full
Chris
03-19-2016, 07:56 PM
LMAO
Ron Swanson
03-19-2016, 07:57 PM
They called a moving screen? Holy shit
loveforthegame
03-19-2016, 07:57 PM
Oh my. They called a moving screen. Wow.
Canyonero
03-19-2016, 07:57 PM
Good call
TXstbobcat
03-19-2016, 07:57 PM
Kerr going apeshit. :lol
Chris
03-19-2016, 07:57 PM
Kerr going full retard DO IT
Uriel
03-19-2016, 07:57 PM
:lol Damn Steve Kerr
NASpurs
03-19-2016, 07:57 PM
And the Emmy goes to...
:lol
SupremeGuy
03-19-2016, 07:57 PM
lol Kerr flipping out
Kawhitstorm
03-19-2016, 07:57 PM
Kerr MAD that Diaw exposed his Death line-up:cry
r0drig0lac
03-19-2016, 07:57 PM
lmao illegal screen
mudyez
03-19-2016, 07:57 PM
LOL
boutons_deux
03-19-2016, 07:57 PM
Kerr going pop style
spursparker9
03-19-2016, 07:58 PM
LOL Kerr so early
Chris
03-19-2016, 07:58 PM
SPEEEEEEIGHTSSSS LOL
Southwest Texas Fan
03-19-2016, 07:58 PM
Kerr lol
spursparker9
03-19-2016, 07:58 PM
lol Manu laughing
spurs10
03-19-2016, 07:58 PM
And why was Kerr not ejected?
01Snake
03-19-2016, 07:58 PM
Kawhi laying an egg
SupremeGuy
03-19-2016, 07:58 PM
We're in their head right now. We better keep it on them.
MVPCues
03-19-2016, 07:59 PM
Spurs need to take advantage right now. They aren't.
loveforthegame
03-19-2016, 07:59 PM
Not taking advantage of GS missing.
NASpurs
03-19-2016, 07:59 PM
Wtf
Chris
03-19-2016, 07:59 PM
welp
ElNono
03-19-2016, 07:59 PM
gotta put that ball in the basket smh
TheGreatYacht
03-19-2016, 07:59 PM
Short bus full of fatties jinxing Mills :lol
sasaint
03-19-2016, 07:59 PM
Devastatingly bad trip!
Robz4000
03-19-2016, 07:59 PM
LMA folding once again
Strategic
03-19-2016, 08:00 PM
BS
tholdren
03-19-2016, 08:00 PM
kevin martin time sice kl is a pussy
urunobili
03-19-2016, 08:00 PM
Lol Kerr going Pop
Lol ref'd
Lol 4 point play
Chris
03-19-2016, 08:00 PM
great call no basket :tu
Horse
03-19-2016, 08:00 PM
Why do they play so scared hesitant like they don't know what to do?
Spurtacular
03-19-2016, 08:00 PM
If Klay's can't hold off Patty Mills he should go into the weight room. Don't call a foul on that.
Chris
03-19-2016, 08:00 PM
Replay center with the goods
Spurs missing shots they usually make, but playing great defense. That's good to see. Tighten it up and let's make these bunnies.
ElNono
03-19-2016, 08:00 PM
here comes fathead... there goes the lead
sasaint
03-19-2016, 08:01 PM
We are taking some pretty poor shots and missing the good looks; yet we are up.
spursparker9
03-19-2016, 08:01 PM
lol Timmy and kerr
Oh Patty. Let him take that garbage shot.
loveforthegame
03-19-2016, 08:01 PM
Fouls. :bang
01Snake
03-19-2016, 08:01 PM
3 fouls on one possession. Jesus
SPURt
03-19-2016, 08:01 PM
Is it gonna be Miller time?
steeledl
03-19-2016, 08:01 PM
Patty dominating unlike TP....:downspin:
Spurtacular
03-19-2016, 08:01 PM
Followed up by a fucking ghost foul. Warrefs taking Mills out.
Strategic
03-19-2016, 08:01 PM
Barbosa you baby
Chris
03-19-2016, 08:01 PM
ball dont lie
moisaenz
03-19-2016, 08:01 PM
Ka time
beirmeistr
03-19-2016, 08:01 PM
too many fouls
daslicer
03-19-2016, 08:01 PM
Wow former Laker fans now Warrior fans decked out in AT&T.
Uriel
03-19-2016, 08:02 PM
711356833080877056
Is it gonna be Miller time?
I'd like to see it.
tholdren
03-19-2016, 08:02 PM
hells yes... kevin martin time
Ron Swanson
03-19-2016, 08:02 PM
Guaranteed those fans weren't Warriors fans until last year.
spurs10
03-19-2016, 08:02 PM
Lame GSW fans there :lol
spursistan
03-19-2016, 08:02 PM
here comes fathead... there goes the lead
first TO
Canyonero
03-19-2016, 08:02 PM
:lol:lol that "pass"
boutons_deux
03-19-2016, 08:02 PM
TOs!!!
loveforthegame
03-19-2016, 08:02 PM
Dumb pass.
ElNono
03-19-2016, 08:02 PM
here comes fathead... there goes the lead
Chris
03-19-2016, 08:02 PM
wtfathead
tholdren
03-19-2016, 08:02 PM
god damn kyle anderson
loveforthegame
03-19-2016, 08:03 PM
Let's go to Anderson. Awesome.
jeebus
03-19-2016, 08:03 PM
could fathead be the new bonner? inexplicably getting minutes despite sucking at all aspects of the game?
NASpurs
03-19-2016, 08:03 PM
Make a fucking shot ffs
daslicer
03-19-2016, 08:03 PM
Spurs are having a lot of shots that go in and out in this game.
loveforthegame
03-19-2016, 08:03 PM
That defense? :tu
01Snake
03-19-2016, 08:03 PM
And our first half shitshow continues.
steeledl
03-19-2016, 08:03 PM
Ginobili is so fucking useless.
Chris
03-19-2016, 08:03 PM
Warrioref
Kyle and manu seem like a big drop off from the starters right now :lol
tholdren
03-19-2016, 08:04 PM
god damn it. why in the hell is huey duck in the game? he blows.
sasaint
03-19-2016, 08:04 PM
Wow former Laker fans now Warrior fans decked out in AT&T.
:lmao
spurs10
03-19-2016, 08:04 PM
Was it still today when we last scored?
Darius Bieber
03-19-2016, 08:04 PM
Lol Spurs struggling against a team who played late last night.
Uriel
03-19-2016, 08:04 PM
Can I just take a moment to express how envious I am of all the SpursTalkers who are not on this game thread because they're actually watching the game live?
ceperez
03-19-2016, 08:04 PM
Why the hell do they keep dribbling in traffic????
Horse
03-19-2016, 08:04 PM
Refs taking over
TheGreatYacht
03-19-2016, 08:04 PM
GET THE FUCK OUT FAT HEAD
loveforthegame
03-19-2016, 08:04 PM
What are they doing.
steeledl
03-19-2016, 08:04 PM
Duncan looking like a scrub.
Chris
03-19-2016, 08:04 PM
Our offense is garbage right now no passing just one and done
Spurtacular
03-19-2016, 08:04 PM
Warrefs calling a bunch of sh** now.
And Kyle Anderson sucking balls.
Texas_Ranger
03-19-2016, 08:04 PM
the spurs offense is a joke
dabom
03-19-2016, 08:04 PM
GET THE FUCK OUT FAT HEAD
timtonymanu
03-19-2016, 08:04 PM
smh can't even extend the lead when Wardell sits
keeferob25
03-19-2016, 08:05 PM
Get Kyle useless ass the fuck out
Why the fuck is Pop running isos for Fathead?
beirmeistr
03-19-2016, 08:05 PM
duncan's weakness--- dribbling
Kawhitstorm
03-19-2016, 08:05 PM
Worriers dig in EVERY TIME on postups
MVPCues
03-19-2016, 08:05 PM
It looked very promising for a while...then Spurs ended with a turd.
Chris
03-19-2016, 08:05 PM
Manu with the BADS
Canyonero
03-19-2016, 08:05 PM
lol Spurs
Uriel
03-19-2016, 08:05 PM
Warriors' 3-pt shooting has been the polar opposite of the first game where they were making everything.
I want the ball in Kawhi hand not manu
Splits
03-19-2016, 08:05 PM
Fucking Manu
loveforthegame
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
Turnobili.
tholdren
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
Kyle anderson sucks - FACT
Play the scorers
KL is a pussy
SPURt
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
After all that the Spurs sucked on offense and couldn't take a lead, what the hell?!?!
ceperez
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
Another crapping sequence by Manu. I so sick and tired of those risky passes.
davidbowie
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
fuck u manu
steeledl
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
Why is Ginobili playing ffs..... dude takes bad shots and turns the ball over more nights than not.
Ron Swanson
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
Offense completely imploded after a good start.
ElNono
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
here comes fathead... there goes the lead
r0drig0lac
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
ginobili stupid
boutons_deux
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
8 TOs 1st qtr
daslicer
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
Worriers dig in EVERY TIME on postups
Pretty much. Duncan has been stripped twice.
TheGreatYacht
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
Manu needs to retire and Vending Machine head needs to pull a Kevin Ware
01Snake
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
Pretty fucking embarrassing thus far.
BatManu20
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
Our old fucks had a horrible quarter.
hitmanyr2k
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
Kawhi has to start recognizing that they're blitzing him with the double-teams on defense and be proactive. He seems to not know they're coming until the last second and he's getting flustered.
timtonymanu
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
Shitty end to the quarter. Big 3 look like they're gonna be dogshit in a potential series.
james evans
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
popovich, Please sit ginobli and duncan down for the rest of the game..
I want the ball in Kawhi hand not manu
And that's why.. :lol
I said in other thread..role players not letting stars play would be the hump to climb.
Amuseddaysleeper
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
Spurs are so fucked wow that is disheartening :(
dabom
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
17-11 then fathead checks in 17018 now. :lmao
Spurtacular
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
Refs taking over
Yea, they fucking are. They didn't do sh** for the first nine minutes; then they just fucking sucked the momentum right out of the building.
SASdynasty!
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
Please put Parker back in.
TheGreatYacht
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
Is Pop willing to bench Manure...?
NASpurs
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
Fucking mentally soft faggots, reminds me of when Phil used to own the Spurs and we used to crumble up
Strategic
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
Spurs take a dive with Duncan and Gino
Uriel
03-19-2016, 08:06 PM
I feel like the Spurs played better and harder than the Warriors in the 1st quarter, and yet they’re losing.
ceperez
03-19-2016, 08:07 PM
Spurs offense bordering on complete stupid. Not a single attempt at the 3 point shot.
Texas_Ranger
03-19-2016, 08:07 PM
if only kawhi would come to play tonight.... and LOL playing Andesron.
TDomination
03-19-2016, 08:07 PM
Can't even get a shot off. Classic manu
Stevie Johnson
03-19-2016, 08:07 PM
The Warriors played literally the worst quarter ever and they're up by 1!
keeferob25
03-19-2016, 08:07 PM
honestly, manu is just terrible and has been since that game back from injury
polandprzem
03-19-2016, 08:07 PM
Spurs had nothing on ofense
What a worse then bad play
Nathan89
03-19-2016, 08:07 PM
Fathead blows
$pursDynasty
03-19-2016, 08:07 PM
Pop needs to put Bobo back in.
Vokun
03-19-2016, 08:07 PM
Warriors' 3-pt shooting has been the polar opposite of the first game where they were making everything.
And yet Spurs still losing :lol
Gonna be a long day
SASdynasty!
03-19-2016, 08:07 PM
17-11 then fathead checks in 17018 now. :lmao
And Mills
BillMc
03-19-2016, 08:07 PM
Well pace is to our advantage. But if our bench can't pull away going to be tough. Still, no worries yet.
spursparker9
03-19-2016, 08:07 PM
I feel like the Spurs played better and harder than the Warriors in the 1st quarter, and yet they’re losing.
And GSW are without Bogut and the FMVP 2015
DarrinS
03-19-2016, 08:07 PM
Shitty start for both teams, tbh
Rob123
03-19-2016, 08:07 PM
Look the Spurs outside of kwahi and lma aren't that good. Luckily lma and kwahi are fucking awesome. Unfortunately that kid kwahi is invisible in the biggest game of the season. Not a deal breaker but if he's a true superstar dudes gotta be up for this.
Spurs still playing scared
TheGreatYacht
03-19-2016, 08:07 PM
Kawhi has to start recognizing that they're blitzing him with the double-teams on defense and be proactive. He seems to not know they're coming until the last second and he's getting flustered.
He's always shook when he ain't playing bottom of the barrel teams like the Pelicans
beirmeistr
03-19-2016, 08:07 PM
not too bad, down by 1 and we had a lot of missed shots close to the rim
resistanze
03-19-2016, 08:07 PM
Very disheartening quarter. Warriors play like shit, Spurs somehow match them. Duncan manu and fathead fail
mudyez
03-19-2016, 08:07 PM
"the one, the only...#12...bruce bowen"
LOL
DAF86
03-19-2016, 08:07 PM
Why the fuck does Pop insist on the 40 year old finishing quarters instead of one of the best 5 players in the World?
SPURt
03-19-2016, 08:08 PM
Why the hell didn't Pop let Kawhi take the last possesion? It's not a Manu night
Spurs 4 The Win
03-19-2016, 08:08 PM
GET ANDERSON OFF THE FLOOR AND SEND HIM TO THE FUCKING D LEAGUE
SpursIndonesia
03-19-2016, 08:08 PM
LOL where are the short bus crew ? Silent as fuck when their agenda is not in show for a while.
Spurs_Be_Beastin'
03-19-2016, 08:08 PM
Bench pretty much useless so far
Brian Windhorst
03-19-2016, 08:08 PM
So if we could go ahead and... not play Tim or Manu again tonight, that would be greeeaaat.
timtonymanu
03-19-2016, 08:08 PM
Pretty much everyone is a non factor minus Diaw and defense right now
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