View Full Version : Gay Republican Set to Become House Majority Leader
Nbadan
09-28-2005, 12:44 PM
AP is reporting that Rep. David Dreier (R-CA) is expected to at least temporarily succeed House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX) as majority leader, following DeLay's indictment.
RAW STORY revealed Dreier was gay and lived with his chief of staff last year. LA Weekly then outed him, and he promptly disappeared from the television news show circuit. Our story, which originally ran Sept. 20, 2004, follows in full.
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A Republican congressman from California who has repeatedly voted against gay rights measures is said to be gay himself, and at least three MediaNews Group newspapers are said to have instructed its reporters not to ask questions about the congressman's sexuality or how it relates to public policy.
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Brad Smith, Dreier’s chief of staff with whom he is said to have lived, is paid an unusually high salary relative to the chief of staffs of other powerful congressmen, including Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert.
After RAW STORY ran an article suggesting that Congressman David Dreier, R-CA, might be gay, Hustler Magazine revealed that they planned a major expose exploring the conflict between the congressman’s sexuality and his positions on gay rights.
Michael Rogers, the gay activist who outed Dreier Thursday on his site, blogACTIVE, said he “was especially interested in talking with Brad Smith about his living arrangements with the Congressman here in DC."
Rawstory (http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Gay_Republican_eyed_to_become_House_0928.html)
Hummm, Republicans really are the big umbrella party.
Useruser666
09-28-2005, 12:49 PM
So Dan, are you mocking homosexuals, or people who associate with them?
Nbadan
09-28-2005, 12:52 PM
So Dan, are you mocking homosexuals, or people who associate with them?
Nah, I just love pointing out Republican hypocrisy.
C'mon guys, what's not to like about a allegedly gay Republican from California that pays his alleged lover/chief of staff just $400 a year less than the president pays Karl Rove and Andrew Card?
This'll be fun until the next white girl disappears in the Caribbean.
Among bipartisan polls of congressional aid staff, Dreier is consistently ranked as the best dressed member of the House of Representatives.
:lmao
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Dreier
xrayzebra
09-28-2005, 01:10 PM
Nah, I just love pointing out Republican hypocrisy.
Wrong Dan, you are just a liberal. Quick to point to a person's skin color, sexual orintation or place of origin. And then tell us how we are racist, etc. You are so damn predictable. Stuck on stupid.
Useruser666
09-28-2005, 01:10 PM
Nah, I just love pointing out Republican hypocrisy.
What is the hypocrisy? Do republicans believe it's illegal to be gay? Are they pushing for that? I'd find it funny if the guy was pro constitutional amendment against homosexual marriages, but is he?
Phil E.Buster
09-28-2005, 01:14 PM
I'm writing protest letters right now!!
Being gay is totally un-republican and un-conservative!!! :pctoss
User,
I believe he voted against the one man/one woman marriage amendment.
mookie2001
09-28-2005, 01:15 PM
fucking uncle tom
Spurminator
09-28-2005, 01:16 PM
Or Uncle Betty... :lol
Useruser666
09-28-2005, 01:23 PM
User,
I believe he voted against the one man/one woman marriage amendment.
REALLY???? And the republicans let him live?! OMGOSH!
SpursWoman
09-28-2005, 01:28 PM
Or Uncle Betty... :lol
:lmao
SpursWoman
09-28-2005, 01:29 PM
REALLY???? And the republicans let him live?! OMGOSH!
They only let him live if he promises to keep his "Queer Eye for the Homophobe" consultations on the down-low.
That Kohl guy from Arizona is a gay Republican, right?
cheguevara
09-28-2005, 01:41 PM
"I thought I was the best dressed!"
http://www.hastaloswebs.com/imagenes/material/american_gay_power.jpg
REALLY???? And the republicans let him live?! OMGOSH!
More Democrats (36, 17.5%) were in favor of the Federal Marriage Act than Republicans (27, 11.8%) that opposed it, believe it or not.
boutons
09-28-2005, 01:51 PM
"it's illegal to be gay"
The Repub's Bible-thumping nut-case/ID/creationism base is categorically against homo/lesbo, "it is written" in the Bible. You can be sure they are burning up the fax/telephone/mail channels today extorting the Repubs to ditch this "homo sinner" by nightfall, or else.
shrub is fucked
Repubs are fucked
3 more years!!
SpursWoman
09-28-2005, 01:57 PM
"I thought I was the best dressed!"
http://www.hastaloswebs.com/imagenes/material/american_gay_power.jpg
Okay, that's fucking disturbing. :lol
SpursWoman
09-28-2005, 02:01 PM
homo/lesbo
You know that is derogatory slang for gay people, right? I mean, you wouldn't use those in a post calling someone else prejudice against homosexuals, would you?
Actually, I bet there's some sort of battle plan in place regarding Dreier taking over a national position like Majority Leader since Hastert and the guys in the WH have doubtlessly investigated him after all the gay allegations.
Remember, these are the same folks that brought us a black Sec-State (two, actually) and a Hispanic Attorney General, both firsts for each office and from largely Democratic ethnicities. Throw in a gay Congressional leader, and all you need now is a Asian Supreme Court appointee to complete the GOP image makeover, or the umbrella party someone alluded to earlier.
It wouldn't surprise me.
boutons
09-28-2005, 02:15 PM
homo/lesbo is not derogatory. you going P.C nit-picking?
home, lesbo are just nicknames for homosexual and lesbian, nothing more, nothing less.
Perhaps in YOUR mouth, they are derogatory, but not in mine.
Useruser666
09-28-2005, 03:05 PM
"it's illegal to be gay"
The Repub's Bible-thumping nut-case/ID/creationism base is categorically against homo/lesbo, "it is written" in the Bible. You can be sure they are burning up the fax/telephone/mail channels today extorting the Repubs to ditch this "hom sinner" by nightall, or else.
shrub is fucked
Repubs are fucked
3 more years!!
You think all republicans or conservatives are alike. That is what is truly funny about you. There are homosexuals who are republicans, and according to whatever wacky ideals you think ALL republicans follow, pretty much fit them too. Somewhere out there is a gay soldier making a silent prayer at a Bush fundraiser that a republican is elected in 2008. I say, big deal.
Useruser666
09-28-2005, 03:06 PM
Every word in boutons mouth is dirty. :lol
SpursWoman
09-28-2005, 03:23 PM
homo/lesbo is not derogatory. you going P.C nit-picking?
home, lesbo are just nicknames for homosexual and lesbian, nothing more, nothing less.
Perhaps in YOUR mouth, they are derogatory, but not in mine.
Considering what usually comes out in your posts, I would imagine those are pretty tame to you. :lol
I wasn't knit-picking (okay, I sorta was) but I just thought it was ironic because I've never heard those words used when someone wasn't being nasty....and I love irony. But, whatever. :)
Trainwreck2100
09-28-2005, 05:10 PM
Gay Republican?
I always thought that was an oxymoron.
jochhejaam
09-28-2005, 05:44 PM
Gay Republican?
I always thought that was an oxymoron.
Nah, the Log Cabin Republicans, an organization for gay and lesbian republicans have 50 chapters in 35 states and claim over 15,000 members.
http://online.logcabin.org/
mookie2001
09-28-2005, 06:29 PM
why would he keep it a secret then?
you figure he'd want to rally the gay vote.
boutons
09-28-2005, 06:38 PM
Are the Log Cabin Republicans called that because Repug Abe Lincoln, famous for his candle-lit log cabin, was gay?
mookie2001
09-28-2005, 06:41 PM
Lol
jochhejaam
09-28-2005, 06:49 PM
Are the Log Cabin Republicans called that because Repug Abe Lincoln, famous for his candle-lit log cabin, was gay?
I doubt it.
While looking it up I found the man the Log Cabiners have designated "the sexiest man alive". None other than the govenor from my home state of Ohio, Bob Taft.
http://www.brokennewz.com/displaystory.asp_Q_storyid_E_321taftsexyman
http://www.nndb.com/people/409/000044277/bob-taft-sized.jpg
SpursWoman
09-28-2005, 06:52 PM
Are the Log Cabin Republicans called that because Repug Abe Lincoln, famous for his candle-lit log cabin, was gay?
Did they even have electricity then? I'd imagine if you wanted to see anything after the sun went down, candles were a pretty good option. :lol
jochhejaam
09-28-2005, 07:03 PM
Did they even have electricity then? I'd imagine if you wanted to see anything after the sun went down, candles were a pretty good option. :lol
The light bulb was invented in 1879, however, Glow Sticks were invented in the early 1800's though, so maybe he used them
exstatic
09-28-2005, 07:03 PM
Before they made this announcement, there was talk of putting in someone who wouldn't be too hard to remove if DeLay were acquitted. Who better than a deeply closeted fag?
jochhejaam
09-28-2005, 07:06 PM
Are the Log Cabin Republicans called that because Repug Abe Lincoln, famous for his candle-lit log cabin, was gay?
They named themselves that because they claim Abe was gay.
Doesn't look that way, read for yourself
Was Abraham Lincoln gay?
02-Apr-2004
In the recent debate around gay marriage, the Log Cabin Republicans have come up. I understand their deal is that Abraham Lincoln was gay and grew up in a log cabin, so they align themselves with his sexuality through endorsing his upbringing. Whatever. My question is, how valid is the allegation of Honest Abe being gay? I realize that "we may never really know," but my impression is that he was a rowdy skirt chaser in his youth. What evidence do we have that he chased pants as well? Surely having a harridan for a wife isn't evidence enough?
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/040402.html
exstatic
09-28-2005, 07:11 PM
Log Cabin Republicans make as much sense as Jews for Hitler.
Yonivore
09-28-2005, 07:15 PM
I think it just proves that Republicans are, indeed, the big tent party. You go gir...uh...guy.
boutons
09-28-2005, 07:17 PM
April 18, 2005
Historians Defend Book About Abraham Lincoln
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 4:00 a.m. ET
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) -- It must have been the first conference in the history of Abraham Lincoln scholarship to call the Great Emancipator ''a terrifically sexual guy.''
Addressing the nation's top Lincoln scholars on Sunday, two historians defended a new book that claims Lincoln was gay and called for more research into his sexuality.
''I could build a Lincoln Log cabin of homophobic denial,'' said Civil War historian Michael Chesson. ''There's been a cover-up, a conspiracy of silence for experts to hide what they regard as dirty linen in Abe's faded carpetbag.''
The reason for the discussion -- part of a conference held in conjunction with the opening of the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum -- is a new book called ''The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln.''
Author and sociologist C.A. Tripp, who died before the book was published, examined Lincoln's poetry, the recollections of those who knew him and his relationships with other men and concluded Lincoln was ''predominantly homosexual.''
Tripp goes into more detail, but he was not the first person to speculate on the subject.
Scholars have long wondered about the relationship between Lincoln and Joshua Speed. The two men slept in the same bed for four years in Springfield and developed a deep friendship.
Seeking to save money and stay warm in crude buildings, men of the day often shared beds. But Lincoln and Speed lived together long after they could afford separate quarters. Though both men married and Lincoln had four children, Tripp concluded they were lovers.
He reached the same conclusion about Lincoln and David Derickson, a soldier assigned to guard the president during the Civil War. Lincoln and Derickson sometimes shared a bed when Mary Todd Lincoln was out of town.
Jean Baker, author of a major biography of Mrs. Lincoln, has concluded that Lincoln was bisexual.
''(Lincoln) loved men, and they loved him, at whatever level,'' Baker said.
She also rejected the contention that Lincoln married only to further his political career, saying Abraham and Mary ''loved each other and could not be happy apart.''
''It does seem to me that Lincoln is a terrifically sexual guy. He seems to exude testosterone from every pore,'' she added.
Many historians have questioned the theory that Lincoln was gay, arguing that if there were anything suspicious about the president's relationships with Speed and Derickson, his enemies would have used it against him. They say Tripp relied on discredited sources and read too much into conversations that were recalled decades later.
Douglas Wilson, co-director of the Lincoln Studies Center at Knox College, called the book's evidence ''very, very shabby.''
But Illinois state historian Thomas Schwartz suggested skeptics should keep an open mind. ''I have found that the traditional assumptions about Lincoln, when carefully tested, fall apart,'' he said.
jochhejaam
09-28-2005, 07:20 PM
I think it just proves that Republicans are, indeed, the big tent party. You go gir...uh...guy.
That's right, we welcome all with open arms...well...some may just get a firm handshake. :lol
mookie2001
09-28-2005, 08:14 PM
I think it just proves that Republicans are, indeed, the big tent party.
LOL
then why didnt he open up and try to get the gay vote yoni?
SpursWoman
09-28-2005, 08:24 PM
I think it just proves that Republicans are, indeed, the big tent party.
Oh, man....at first I read "pitch a tent party". :oops :lmao
Yonivore
09-28-2005, 08:25 PM
Oh, man....at first I read "pitch a tent party". :oops :lmao
Oh, not that's just wrong! :elephant
jochhejaam
09-28-2005, 09:21 PM
Addressing the nation's top Lincoln scholars on Sunday, two historians defended a new book that claims Lincoln was gay and called for more
Author and sociologist C.A. Tripp, who died before the book was published, examined Lincoln's poetry, the recollections of those who knew him and his relationships with other men and concluded Lincoln was ''predominantly homosexual.''
Tripp goes into more detail, but he was not the first person to speculate on the subject.
It's probably notable that C.A. Tripp was a gay activist. This being the case Tripp had an agenda he was trying to promote and based on that I personally would have to question the objectivity of his writings.
scott
09-28-2005, 09:47 PM
It's probably notable that C.A. Tripp was a gay activist. This being the case Tripp had an agenda he was trying to promote and based on that I personally would have to question the objectivity of his writings.
Shocking.
jochhejaam
09-29-2005, 05:55 AM
Shocking.
Tripp's findings or my skepticism? :)
As it turns out Roy Blunt Rep/Mo takes over as Majority Leader
WASHINGTON — Shadowed by scandal, House Republicans face an uncertain new era after a day of upheaval that left Majority Leader Tom DeLay (search) under indictment and forced to surrender his powerful post.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170748,00.html
Useruser666
09-29-2005, 07:39 AM
So why was this thread started again?
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