Game Thread: Spurs vs Warriors -- Sun. (4/10) - 6:00PM CST (2:00AM Riga Time)

[SpurPadre]

Dummy, Kawhi's jumper was off tonight but he was solid in other areas. If the starter could have hit a couple of OPEN shots, this could easily have been a W. The most important takeaway is that the Spurs CAN control the pace when LMA is rolling & he went up against their FULL frontline. Diaw could be a dependable 3rd scoring option since Porker can't get to the rim against the Worriers & provide dribble penetration.

D-West seems playable when the pace was SLOW & Kyle/K-Mart didn't look like a fish out of water for the 2nd match-up in a row so they should be rotation players against the Worriers.

LMA/Tim
Diaw/West
Kawhi/Kyle
Danny/Manu/K-mart
Porker/Patty

How about Miller over Mills?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

fuck this game

[UNT Eagles 2016]

tonight was fucking terrible in every way.... need alcohol, lots of alcohol

[SAGirl]

Dummy, Kawhi's jumper was off tonight but he was solid in other areas. If the starter could have hit a couple of OPEN shots, this could easily have been a W. The most important takeaway is that the Spurs CAN control the pace when LMA is rolling & he went up against their FULL frontline. Diaw could be a dependable 3rd scoring option since Porker can't get to the rim against the Worriers & provide dribble penetration.

D-West seems playable when the pace was SLOW & Kyle/K-Mart didn't look like a fish out of water for the 2nd match-up in a row so they should be rotation players against the Worriers.

LMA/Tim
Diaw/West
Kawhi/Kyle
Danny/Manu/K-mart
Porker/Patty
Agree with you KStorm and Kmart and Mills can be interchangeable.

[Spurtacular]

Umm they basically do, that is why they are 73-9

And you don't think there's been a lot of warreffing? NBA knows where their bread is buttered right now.

[Silver&Black]

His jumper was off but Kawhi plays this thing called "defense", which was the theme of tonight's match-up.:wakeup

I love Kawhi....and I know he's our best defender. "His jumper was off" is an understatement.

:lol It's okay to admit he had a bad game

[Kawhitstorm]

tonight was fucking terrible in every way.... need alcohol, lots of alcohol

You SHOULDN'T been that invested in a basketball game.:lol

[UNT Eagles 2016]

fuck the spurs and fuck the dublets, and fuck the thunderefs too. And fuck lebron too. Hope the Bobcats win it this year

[UNT Eagles 2016]

You SHOULDN'T been that invested in a basketball game.:lol
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The whole bottle... before midnight tonight

[Arcadian]

:lol Spurs going on a slump at the end of the season, just like they did in '11 and '13 (i think, i know it happened twice this decade)

[bklynspursfan]

Im not baiting.
I was just commenting i rarely come up here until the playoffs ..but this game had a playoff atmosphere.
And i dont need to bait ... the cliffjumpers in your own fanbase is out in full force.

Fair enough.. you're right about that. Its pathetic in here these days

[UNT Eagles 2016]

:lol Spurs going on a slump at the end of the season, just like they did in '11 and '13 (i think, i know it happened twice this decade)
Yep. 2010-11 all over again TBH.

[SpursforSix]

At least Better Call Saul is on tonight.

[SAGirl]

If neither of your Starting guards can score...can you really expect to win anything?
It's a concern for the offseason, but we need better guards. At least 1 younger guard who can make plays off the dribble.

[timtonymanu]

:lol Spurs going on a slump at the end of the season, just like they did in '11 and '13 (i think, i know it happened twice this decade)

:lol Wouldn't call it slump. They have the #2 seed locked up and we know Pop likes to start resting players. We just had to face the Dubs twice in 4 days and would have destroyed the Nuggets if everyone played.

[SAGirl]

Diaw might help, if Determined Diaw plays rather than Coasting Diaw. That's a big variable and he is a bench player, to boot. He is not the difference maker.
Who do you think is the difference maker?

[Arcadian]

:lol Wouldn't call it slump. They have the #2 seed locked up and we know Pop likes to start resting players. We just had to face the Dubs twice in 4 days and would have destroyed the Nuggets if everyone played.

I'm strictly speaking in terms of wins and losses. Even if there's a good reason for losing, it's never good to end the season with a flurry of losses.

Right now they're 6-4 in the last 10, and could very well lose one or both of the remaining games, since they'll rest starters and Dallas will treat it like a playoff game. I made the comparison to 2011 when they finished 4-6, and 2013 when they finished 6-4.

[Capt Bringdown]

We're in it's gonna take a miracle territory. Warriors are invincible.

[timtonymanu]

I'm strictly speaking in terms of wins and losses. Even if there's a good reason for losing, it's never good to end the season with a flurry of losses.

Right now they're 6-4 in the last 10, and could very well lose one or both of the remaining games, since they'll rest starters and Dallas will treat it like a playoff game. I made the comparison to 2011 when they finished 4-6, and 2013 when they finished 6-4.

I see your point. I do think the slumps in 2011 and 2013 (they had a strong playoff run though, before 6 happened) were much worse and more reason to be concerned.

[skulls138]

Im not super bummed tonight. GS is an awesome fucking team. People talk about the three point shooting but they are ALL AROUND good. What pissed me off though are their bigs camping underneath the bucket for offensive rebounds. Yeah we got many more offensive rebounds but most of that was in the beginning and we didnt even score off of those rebounds. After that they started having their bigs right under the basket...what the fuck??? The boxing out sucks!!!

Another thing that killed us is in that first quarter we couldnt score on some easy baskets. We had em on the ropes but didnt capitalize.

[daslicer]

I'm strictly speaking in terms of wins and losses. Even if there's a good reason for losing, it's never good to end the season with a flurry of losses.

Right now they're 6-4 in the last 10, and could very well lose one or both of the remaining games, since they'll rest starters and Dallas will treat it like a playoff game. I made the comparison to 2011 when they finished 4-6, and 2013 when they finished 6-4.
Can't take much out of these last 10 games with Pop tinkering with the lineups. I have seen teams finish the regular season strong and still falter in the playoffs and I have seen the opposite where a team looks like shit in the final 10 games and ends up winning it all. The most important thing is the spurs will be healthy for the playoffs.

[ceperez]

Problem is, I haven't seen Spurs play a good game lately.

[SPURt]

Texas Chainsaw massacre. While being forced to Human Centipede with Durant and Westbrick.
Sorry I didn't respond to this masterpiece earlier. It gave me a Bonner and I passed out.

[Kawhitstorm]

I love Kawhi....and I know he's our best defender. "His jumper was off" is an understatement.

He had zero turnovers, led the team in rebounds, assists, blocks plus had 2 steal. Klay/Barnes/Draymond didn't score on him when he was guarding 'em so I'm not sure what more he could have done besides making his jump shots.

[skulls138]

He had zero turnovers, led the team in rebounds, assists, blocks plus had 2 steal. Klay/Barnes/Draymond didn't score on him when he was guarding 'em so I'm not sure what more he could have done besides making his jump shots.Thank you!! Kawhi is a battler, no doubt about that.

[sasaint]

Who do you think is the difference maker?

There is not a single "difference maker" on our roster. First, LMA and Kawhi BOTH have to show up. (I am pretty concerned about GS getting into Kawhi's head.) Then we have to have two out of Danny, Patty and Manu shoot reliably from three. We can't match them 3 for 3, but we can't let them double our makes. We have to get better spacing. And we absolutely cannot commit live-ball turnovers. As a team we have to maintain for an entire series the kind of pace that we had tonight, BUT we still have to move bodies and the ball better. Pacing was good tonight, but too many isos. Frankly, we are too timid all around against the Dubs, but especially on the isos. That will not cut it. We have to exploit advantages when we have them, which means we have to play and execute a lot smarter. We MUST force Curry to work more on the defensive end.

On defense we have been reasonably effective in the two games here. We will not get by on a steady diet of switches. We just need to show 'em multiple looks and PLAY Curry MORE PHYSICALLY!

[skulls138]

Concerned with GS getting in Kawhis head? Not me, at all.

[SAGirl]

There is not a single "difference maker" on our roster. First, LMA and Kawhi BOTH have to show up. (I am pretty concerned about GS getting into Kawhi's head.) Then we have to have two out of Danny, Patty and Manu shoot reliably from three. We can't match them 3 for 3, but we can't let them double our makes. We have to get better spacing. And we absolutely cannot commit live-ball turnovers. As a team we have to maintain for an entire series the kind of pace that we had tonight, BUT we still have to move bodies and the ball better. Pacing was good tonight, but too many isos. Frankly, we are too timid all around against the Dubs, but especially on the isos. That will not cut it. We have to exploit advantages when we have them, which means we have to play and execute a lot smarter. We MUST force Curry to work more on the defensive end.

On defense we have been reasonably effective in the two games here. We will not get by on a steady diet of switches. We just need to show 'em multiple looks and PLAY Curry MORE PHYSICALLY!
The concern is really our backcourt. We will need adjustments or trades in the off season.

[sasaint]

The concern is really our backcourt. We will need adjustments or trades in the off season.

:lol You switched gears on me. We were talking about a potential WCF series against the Dubs.

As for next season, I don't have any idea how PATFO will respond to this season and the roster. With Tony, we are in trouble. He is not a starting-caliber PG anymore, but nobody pays a back-up PG $14MM - except PATFO out of loyalty (and inability to find any takers). Danny is a similar, though less expensive albatross. I love Patty, but he is not the same as pre-shoulder injury Patty; so who knows. Simmons? Has he peaked? Manu is gone, imho. So our backcourt is at best a question mark and at worst a total trasher. With the Spurs' tradition for loyalty and aversion to trades, I really don't know what they will do.

[TampaDude]

The bottom line is: NO DIAW, NO SHOT at beating the Dubs.

Kerr even brought up Diaw's absence in the postgame interview. He knows the Spurs are a much tougher out with Boris in the lineup. The Heat found that out two years ago, much to their dismay. :hat

[SAGirl]

:lol You switched gears on me. We were talking about a potential WCF series against the Dubs.

As for next season, I don't have any idea how PATFO will respond to this season and the roster. With Tony, we are in trouble. He is not a starting-caliber PG anymore, but nobody pays a back-up PG $14MM - except PATFO out of loyalty (and inability to find any takers). Danny is a similar, though less expensive albatross. I love Patty, but he is not the same as pre-shoulder injury Patty; so who knows. Simmons? Has he peaked? Manu is gone, imho. So our backcourt is at best a question mark and at worst a total trasher. With the Spurs' tradition for loyalty and aversion to trades, I really don't know what they will do.
Oh sorry, I have read several threads by different guys and my mind wondered off subject. Of course in the WcF, we have to talk this roster. :lol. I agree with your points we need more production from our 3 pts shooters. There is not much that can be done. Pop getting Kmart in the team is as much as he could do. I could see Kyle benched in the playoffs for that reason alone, but that doesn't solve much of the problem when he's not the one expected to contribute the 3 at a higher %. We just have to hope at least one guy gets hot and for Pop to ride the hot hand. Danny is the worst problem bc he's part of the regular rotation and he's limited offensively , unlike the others who, to a degree, if the 3 is not falling can help the team in other ways, draw a foul, get to the basket, drive and dish, Danny does none of that well and is a threat to TO when he does. The fact he's put in a position to drive so often by the system is a concern and I could see his minutes shortened but it will be a detriment. Kmart will score and at the same time we won't gain an inch if we are behind.

I hope Kawhi will not shoot this abysmally, but we know what happened in the Clippers series when they ganged up on him.

For next season. Who knows? Maybe a trade. If Tony/Danny come up with 6 pts games among them plus the TO they will have to do something. Hopefully they rectify the situation but if they don't, not only we aren't ringing but well need to make a move. Next season could be a kind of rebuild season.

We could fall off a lot with this Tony and Danny and w/o Tim/Manu. If that were to be the case, now in th realm of speculation. I think they will do whatever they can with Biba/Simmons/Anderson/Patty/Bob o. D west might retire ring or no ring. It sounded like he's financially prepared to retire he just dIdn't want to spend the k as t season of his career in a miserable situation basketball wise in a young rebuilding team, which the Spurs are going to be next season w/o the big 2, and with this Danny and Tony moving forward. Maybe midway through next season once Pop has put a system in place for the young players we can ascertain their more realistic value and make a trade. Maybe one of them breaks out and you keep or package with someone for a better player.

[Horry Hipcheck]

Dummy, Kawhi's jumper was off tonight but he was solid in other areas. If the starter could have hit a couple of OPEN shots, this could easily have been a W. The most important takeaway is that the Spurs CAN control the pace when LMA is rolling & he went up against their FULL frontline. Diaw could be a dependable 3rd scoring option since Porker can't get to the rim against the Worriers & provide dribble penetration.

D-West seems playable when the pace was SLOW & Kyle/K-Mart didn't look like a fish out of water for the 2nd match-up in a row so they should be rotation players against the Worriers.

LMA/Tim
Diaw/West
Kawhi/Kyle
Danny/Manu/K-mart
Porker/Patty

My point was that the Spurs, even in their lone win against GS, have looked timid and confused. Danny Green and Mills have been mostly garbage all season, Parker has only a few truly good games notched on his belt this year, and the rest of the bench has been hit or miss. Against the Warriors there has been almost no ball movement. Even if the Spurs had made a few more of the jumpers they normally make, and they won, I'd still pick GSW in six games MAX.

[Kawhitstorm]

My point was that the Spurs, even in their lone win against GS, have looked timid and confused. Danny Green and Mills have been mostly garbage all season, Parker has only a few truly good games notched on his belt this year, and the rest of the bench has been hit or miss. Against the Warriors there has been almost no ball movement. Even if the Spurs had made a few more of the jumpers they normally make, and they won, I'd still pick GSW in six games MAX.

There is no ball movement b/c Pop is trying to FORCE feed LMA in the paint to control the PACE. He's basically calling 4-down plays every time down the floor, which is what the Grizz did against the Duds in last season's 2nd rd series before Kerr decided to pack the paint & ignore Tony Allen after they went down 2-1.

[kuato]

Spurs needs Facundo Campazzo