View Full Version : Pop is offcially done...
Budkin
05-10-2016, 11:35 PM
How the fuck can this "genius" coach be losing to rookie college coach??
objective
05-10-2016, 11:57 PM
What are you talking about there? I am curious.
One instance was keeping Kawhi benched for what, 7 straight minutes in game 7 against the clippers because of one bad play.
Then there's the burial of splitter
The burial of George hill
The burial of Udrih for Van Exel while NVE was flaming wreckage
The burial of mahinmi
The burial of Nazr because he didn't know want to get a 24 sec violation at the end of game 6 against the Kings and put up a three that went in. Pop got so pissed off he refused to give him a real chance against Dallas.
spursistan
05-11-2016, 12:04 AM
One instance was keeping Kawhi benched for what, 7 straight minutes in game 7 against the clippers because of one bad play.
Then there's the burial of splitter
The burial of George hill
The burial of Udrih for Van Exel while NVE was flaming wreckage
The burial of mahinmi
The burial of Nazr because he didn't know want to get a 24 sec violation at the end of game 6 against the Kings and put up a three that went in. Pop got so pissed off he refused to give him a real chance against Dallas.
https://ifyouseelights.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/truth-bomb.gif?w=300&h=173
One instance was keeping Kawhi benched for what, 7 straight minutes in game 7 against the clippers because of one bad play.
Then there's the burial of splitter
The burial of George hill
The burial of Udrih for Van Exel while NVE was flaming wreckage
The burial of mahinmi
The burial of Nazr because he didn't know want to get a 24 sec violation at the end of game 6 against the Kings and put up a three that went in. Pop got so pissed off he refused to give him a real chance against Dallas.
:pop: They didn't get over themselves.
So the evidence of Pop shitting the bed is:
Didn't play Boban :(
Didn't play Kawhi 44m :(
LET his player get old :(
Pop didn't get beat by a rookie coach. He got beat by two great offensive payers and some bruising big men. It's a great combo punch and we didn't have a way to beat it jus tlike we didn't beat the clipper's one great player and two great bigs. A simple offense is an effective offense if you wield it like hammer.
From the sounds of it what you guys want is De'Antoni. Overplays the starters, gets offensive movement.
spursistan
05-11-2016, 12:07 AM
I swear Rick Carlisle would ring with this roster :lol.
YGWHI
05-11-2016, 12:13 AM
This series now belongs to the big 3, Kawhi and LMA, they got to the 4th with a small lead and energy to close it out. They didn't. Yes a timeout to call a play here or there would have helped. I also thought players failed to execute what was called down the stretch with the ball ending in Tony's hAnds with the shot clock winding down and no time to do anything but force up a shot. All of that is on the players failing to execute.
Just helped? A play can change a whole game.
Sadly, he has been horrible in his late-game decisions the last three seasons.
adidas11
05-11-2016, 12:15 AM
How the fuck can this "genius" coach be losing to rookie college coach??
+1
TheGreatYacht
05-11-2016, 12:16 AM
So many people finally on board. Hopefully we can put the "CIA Pop" schtick to rest, he's just senile.
SAGirl
05-11-2016, 12:17 AM
One instance was keeping Kawhi benched for what, 7 straight minutes in game 7 against the clippers because of one bad play.
Then there's the burial of splitter
The burial of George hill
The burial of Udrih for Van Exel while NVE was flaming wreckage
The burial of mahinmi
The burial of Nazr because he didn't know want to get a 24 sec violation at the end of game 6 against the Kings and put up a three that went in. Pop got so pissed off he refused to give him a real chance against Dallas.
I see what you mean now. Hasn't he always been like this though. Genuine question since I am a relatively new Spurs fan. I thought he's always had the bad temper that's not senility or being done.
Snaq O'Meal
05-11-2016, 12:21 AM
I see what you mean now. Hasn't he always been like this though. Genuine question since I am a relatively new Spurs fan. I thought he's always had the bad temper that's not senility or being done.
Nothing new here. All that stretched back for the past decade.
spursistan
05-11-2016, 12:29 AM
So many people finally on board. Hopefully we can put the "CIA Pop" schtick to rest, he's just senile.
SAGirl
05-11-2016, 12:31 AM
Nothing new here. All that stretched back for the past decade.
Yes that's what I thought. I don't see him being different than he's always been. There are always questionable things about him. I think the decline of the big 3 has been the most significant factor. In the past any of them, more likely TD by the look of how he was looking to draw fouls despite his lack of knees, that was amazing! would have gotten this win for us. He can no longer do that.
LMA and Kawhi have their work cut o it for them. kawhi is young and I believe he's still getting better. Contrary to others I though Pop made a concerted effort to get him the ball and get him involved. Plays broke down and ended up in shot clock violations or the ball returning to Tony with little time . I though LMA passed up shots too. It wasn't just one guy.. but it's also not on Pop entirely when guys don't rise to the occasion.
MaNu4Tres
05-11-2016, 12:47 AM
One instance was keeping Kawhi benched for what, 7 straight minutes in game 7 against the clippers because of one bad play.
Then there's the burial of splitter
The burial of George hill
The burial of Udrih for Van Exel while NVE was flaming wreckage
The burial of mahinmi
The burial of Nazr because he didn't know want to get a 24 sec violation at the end of game 6 against the Kings and put up a three that went in. Pop got so pissed off he refused to give him a real chance against Dallas.
I hope Pop retires with Tim. He's killing the Spurs this series.
spursistan
05-11-2016, 01:21 AM
Honestly, i still can't believe this is going to happen to Pop...It doesn't look good on him at all to get outcoached by first-year college coach and his team bounced with HCA by a flawed Thunder squad whose stars are having an average series..Avery was Nellie understudy, Doc Rivers won a ship...Scottie Brooks had too much talent for us back then in 2012..but this one feels ridiculously self-inflicted..
therealtruth
05-11-2016, 01:23 AM
How the fuck can this "genius" coach be losing to rookie college coach??
Pretty simple. You get old and stuck in your ways while the rookie coach is pulling all the stops to win.
Kawhitstorm
05-11-2016, 02:30 AM
watch him throw Boban out there once we're down 10 in OKC just to convince himself that he shouldn't have played him this series...
:pop::"He needs to get over himself"-
Kawhitstorm
05-11-2016, 02:32 AM
If Boban doesn't play over fucking West Thursday, I'm going to throw my computer out my freaking window!
You might want to start looking for a new screen.:lol
Kawhitstorm
05-11-2016, 02:34 AM
Maybe Boban and KMart will get some minutes when we're down by 20 in game 6. Why the fuck would you bring these guys in during the regular season and nurse them through games, only to let them rot on the bench in the playoffs?
:pop:"This wasn't the series for Boban just like the 1st rd in 2011 wasn't the right series for Tiago"
objective
05-11-2016, 03:01 AM
I just had a flashback to 2003, pretty much the last time Pop wasn't treated like a living legend by the media.
At the time he was being outcoached by Don Nelson and getting wrecked by a mavs team that didn't even have Dirk. Luckily for Pop, Parker was just beginning his long career of being garbage in deciding games and allegedly had food poisoning so severe that the Spurs were down massively and Parker's stomach forced Pop to play ... STEVE KERR! Saving Pop's ass with Stephen Jackson (who Pop had kept inactive in 2002 while Terry Porter was falling backwards on his ass like a dottering old man).
In the post-game presser, someone had the reasonable idea to ask Pop something like why wasn't hadn't he played Kerr the entire playoffs. And Pop did one of his most dickish, petulant responses of his whole career, and just was a total defensive asshole. I don't remember his words, but he sure didn't like to be called out on obvious adjustments.
Of course Pop meekishly give Kerr lots of opportunities against the Nets, where he again was lucky to barely win against a terrible East team whose best player was heading into off season career changing microfeacture. They needed a huge comeback against a terrible team with Kenyon having one of the worst games ever, against a coach who history proved to be a clown, and with one of the greatest single game performances in history by Duncan to save Pop. And keeping with tradition, Parker was trash.
Donovan lucked the fuck out, that his Kanter/Adams lineup, which rarely played in RS is working.
Kawhitstorm
05-11-2016, 03:14 AM
Donovan lucked the fuck out, that his Kanter/Adams lineup, which rarely played in RS is working.
He actually used that frontline against the Spurs during the regular season & they wrecked Diaw/West during the season opener.:lol
He actually used that frontline against the Spurs during the regular season & they wrecked Diaw/West during the season opener.:lol
Because of resting. I saw that this was unusuall lineup for them.
szkorhetz
05-11-2016, 03:31 AM
Let Vogel take it over if we can't get Spo, TBH.
Sean Cagney
05-11-2016, 03:35 AM
Got love for Pop and he is a legend but he rides some things out too long when they are not working to hope it works and prove he knows best.... He needs to stop it.
Snaq O'Meal
05-11-2016, 05:47 AM
Donovan lucked the fuck out, that his Kanter/Adams lineup, which rarely played in RS is working.
Playing Adams and Anus Cancer together is a no-brainer when the opposing dumb ass coach had the audacity to stubbornly trot out stupidly undersized frontlines that offer no resistance on the boards.
jermaine
05-11-2016, 05:47 AM
Donovan lucked the fuck out, that his Kanter/Adams lineup, which rarely played in RS is working.
The simple fact he may have tried something different says alot. Not only his big lineup, he's playing Morrow an that other guard. But Pop sticks to Fathead... He needs to be forced to retire with health reasons so he can leave with some kinda pride.
DeRozan m8
05-11-2016, 05:49 AM
I just seriously can't believe these turd towers are getting rolled out together at such an important time.
How many times does it have to fail?
jermaine
05-11-2016, 05:53 AM
I just seriously can't believe these turd towers are getting rolled out together at such an important time.
How many times does it have to fail?
Im sure Mark Cuban would've came down to the sideline an told him cut that shit out if he was the Spurs owner.
DeRozan m8
05-11-2016, 05:56 AM
Im sure Mark Cuban would've came down to the sideline an told him cut that shit out if he was the Spurs owner.
I don't doubt this.
Snaq O'Meal
05-11-2016, 05:57 AM
How many times does it have to fail?
It will keep failing until one of them leaves the team. Otherwise, Pop will keep on pounding that rock with his thick skull.
ElNono
05-11-2016, 08:28 AM
You wanna roll that shitty lineup? Do it early in the 2nd quarter, not in the fucking end of the 3rd/start of the 4th giving up whatever lead and momentum. At least we have time to make up for it.
Pairing Diaw/West and giving Anderson minutes is essentially costing the Spurs this series and ruining Tim Duncan's final games in a Spurs jersey.
You are great with the long game Pop, but god damn your adjustments have been below par for some time.
Brazil
05-11-2016, 08:54 AM
Blame the Refs
Blame Pop
and if you are not sure blame Parker
rinse and repeat
:lol
TheGreatYacht
05-11-2016, 08:57 AM
Blame the Refs
Blame Pop
and if you are not sure blame Parker
rinse and repeat
:lol
They aren't wrong in doing that, though. If that's what you're suggesting
Brazil
05-11-2016, 09:03 AM
They aren't wrong in doing that, though. If that's what you're suggesting
it's not that simple tbh...
The refs have nothing to do with where we are right now... we wasted so many opportunities... excecution in the 4th is not refs fault.
Pop is not doing a great job obviously but nobody was expecting Tim to be such a liability out there... there is not much option to counter that
Parker is doing enough to give us a shot
BG_Spurs_Fan
05-11-2016, 09:07 AM
it's not that simple tbh...
The refs have nothing to do with where we are right now... we wasted so many opportunities... excecution in the 4th is not refs fault.
True, but the 24 second violation miss-call, Green being tripped and called for a foul and Kawhi fouling Westbrook in the end gave OKC 5 additional crucial points at the very end in a 1-possesion game. Not easy to overcome this, despite LMA missing a wide open shot and Parker missing 2 being Spurs fault. Still though, talk about not being put in a position to execute and perform. I can only assume players were seething.
ElNono
05-11-2016, 09:11 AM
How is West no more of a liability than Duncan though? Timmy at least can contest and block some shots at the rim. He's basically first in the team in rebounds per 36 these playoffs (Boban is 1st, but way small sample in his case).
Sorry, but West clanking everything and committing stupid fouls isn't superior in any way, shape or form. I can't believe he's getting dominated against that scrub Kanter, smh.
TheGreatYacht
05-11-2016, 09:11 AM
it's not that simple tbh...
The refs have nothing to do with where we are right now... we wasted so many opportunities... excecution in the 4th is not refs fault.
Pop is not doing a great job obviously but nobody was expecting Tim to be such a liability out there... there is not much option to counter that
Parker is doing enough to give us a shot
The refs were absolutely terrible, and should get blame for yesterday's loss, as "vanilla" and "crybaby" as it may sound. That trip on Green giving Durant free throws and the uncalled Kawhi foul ended the game. They were responsible for stopping the Spurs from blowing the roof off the building, they were on the verge of blowing them out by 20 until the Thunderef intervened in the 4th.
Pop is a senile old fuck. From sticking with his suicide lineup, going away from Kawhi in crunch time, to taking out Duncan after his block on Chimpbrook. All these Spurs collapses over the years are HIS fault, one of the worst late game coaches I've ever seen. I put that on anything.
Parker had to ISO after Poop's play went to shambles, per par. He missed a late game free throw so I guess they can blame him for that.? I agree though, he did enough to help us in the game
sasaint
05-11-2016, 09:28 AM
Let Vogel take it over if we can't get Spo, TBH.
Assuming Tim and Manu retire this off-season, it is not unreasonable to believe that Pop would retire, too. While I don't expect that to happen, he has said (in jest?) that when Timmy went, he would, too. If that were to occur, I don't know who the Spurs would turn to. Spo is Riley's appendage, so he wouldn't be in the running if we wanted him. Joerger kind of intrigued me, and I was surprised to see him jump so quickly into the Sactown trash heap. Would Blatt be in the running? Would Bud? Would the team promote Ime or Messina? Having to replace Pop would make for an even bigger watershed this off-season than we already face.
polandprzem
05-11-2016, 09:30 AM
How come every single play that is set for Leonard is not executed ? I feel like he has nothing rolling for him and he has to work extremely hard for his points.
I wonder if Pop says I'm done and Messina takes over? I mean probably Tim and Manu are gone as well
jjktkk
05-11-2016, 09:49 AM
Doesn't OKC get some credit for exposing this Spurs team? Not sure if some of you Spur fans ready to string Pop up to the nearest tree, were saying the same thing, when this team was rolling along winning 67 wins. I sure didn't see this coming, especially after game 1 of this series. I thought the Spur's overall depth would smother the Thunder. Also thought Westbrook would lose control and do his customary 1 on 5 schtick in crunch time. But OKC instead, has exposed this Spurs teams overall lack of athleticism. You hate Pop's shitty lineups, I get that, but isn't part of Pop's shitty lineup changes on OKC winning seemingly every matchup? Name one matchup that favors the Spurs: Kawhi maybe?, LMA?, etc... Why does LMA disappear in inopportune times, like the 4th quarter? Why hasn't Pop played Duncan more? Is Tim hurt? TP, at this stage in career, can only take over in spurts. Green has been solid overall imo, but where has Manu, Patty, Diaw, West, and the rest of the Spur's bench gone to? Going back to OKC, their two MVP candidates, have taking turns, taking over games in this series, while the Spurs have not been able to match their intensity. Its too easy to only blame Pop for this mess imo.
Brazil
05-11-2016, 09:53 AM
The refs were absolutely terrible, and should get blame for yesterday's loss, as "vanilla" and "crybaby" as it may sound. That trip on Green giving Durant free throws and the uncalled Kawhi foul ended the game. They were responsible for stopping the Spurs from blowing the roof off the building, they were on the verge of blowing them out by 20 until the Thunderef intervened in the 4th.
Pop is a senile old fuck. From sticking with his suicide lineup, going away from Kawhi in crunch time, to taking out Duncan after his block on Chimpbrook. All these Spurs collapses over the years are HIS fault, one of the worst late game coaches I've ever seen. I put that on anything.
Parker had to ISO after Poop's play went to shambles, per par. He missed a late game free throw so I guess they can blame him for that.? I agree though, he did enough to help us in the game
don't get me wrong I'm not saying refs were not upper shit but you blame them when you played good bb and you get screwed... we played shit bb, we were up entering the fourth. There is nothing you can do about refs but you can certainly do better than a 16 pts first quarter when you are at home in a decisive game in POs.
Pop has to be blamed but not more or less than rest of the team... one thing is for sure, dude is lost withou his Timmy
Parker had boneheads play in the fourth but after 2 20 pts games on the road and tonight a solid 5 assists, 1 stl, 1 tov and a pretty decent effort on defense even tho his shot were not falling should have been enough. The starters did overall their job imo.
Bench sucked ass big time which is mind blowing at home and don't get me started on Kyle fucking empty stat lines Anderson... dude is fucking horrible
polandprzem
05-11-2016, 09:59 AM
Doesn't OKC get some credit for exposing this Spurs team? Not sure if some of you Spur fans ready to string Pop up to the nearest tree, were saying the same thing, when this team was rolling along winning 67 wins. I sure didn't see this coming, especially after game 1 of this series. I thought the Spur's overall depth would smother the Thunder. Also thought Westbrook would lose control and do his customary 1 on 5 schtick in crunch time. But OKC instead, has exposed this Spurs teams overall lack of athleticism. You hate Pop's shitty lineups, I get that, but isn't part of Pop's shitty lineup changes on OKC winning seemingly every matchup? Name one matchup that favors the Spurs: Kawhi maybe?, LMA?, etc... Why does LMA disappear in inopportune times, like the 4th quarter? Why hasn't Pop played Duncan more? Is Tim hurt? TP, at this stage in career, can only take over in spurts. Green has been solid overall imo, but where has Manu, Patty, Diaw, West, and the rest of the Spur's bench gone to? Going back to OKC, their two MVP candidates, have taking turns, taking over games in this series, while the Spurs have not been able to match their intensity. Its too easy to only blame Pop for this mess imo.
It's not only Pop to blame /if we wanna blame somebody .../
I bet he takes responsibility for it as well, but the players were unable to match intensity of OKC. Plus this last game it was not looking like they were fighting for their lives. That was the game to win. And not at the end but in the 2nd or 3rd. Constant playing, constant playing. With 20 turnover by OKC we with better D and so so offense are ahead at least 10 pts
Donovan lucked the fuck out, that his Kanter/Adams lineup, which rarely played in RS is working.
Luck seems to follow Donovan around. Two NCAA Titles at a football school.
Best player he ever had -- Joakim Noah. A nice player, but look who Rick Barnes had at a football school. Kevin Durant, LaMarcus Aldridge, Avery Bradley, Tristan Thompson, TJ Ford, no titles. . .
Luck just seems to follow that Billy Donovan around . . .
sasaint
05-11-2016, 10:26 AM
Luck seems to follow Donovan around. Two NCAA Titles at a football school.
Best player he ever had -- Joakim Noah. A nice player, but look who Rick Barnes had at a football school. Kevin Durant, LaMarcus Aldridge, Avery Bradley, Tristan Thompson, TJ Ford, no titles. . .
Luck just seems to follow that Billy Donovan around . . .
:lol :toast
What do you expect - "Donovan" is an Irish surname.
houston spurs fan
05-11-2016, 10:36 AM
How is West no more of a liability than Duncan though? Timmy at least can contest and block some shots at the rim. He's basically first in the team in rebounds per 36 these playoffs (Boban is 1st, but way small sample in his case).
Sorry, but West clanking everything and committing stupid fouls isn't superior in any way, shape or form. I can't believe he's getting dominated against that scrub Kanter, smh.
This. I'm still so fucking pissed. Get West and Anderson off the damn floor!
Luck seems to follow Donovan around. Two NCAA Titles at a football school.
Best player he ever had -- Joakim Noah. A nice player, but look who Rick Barnes had at a football school. Kevin Durant, LaMarcus Aldridge, Avery Bradley, Tristan Thompson, TJ Ford, no titles. . .
Luck just seems to follow that Billy Donovan around . . .
I`m not saying he is lucky and shitty as coach. He is killing the Spurs with lineup, he didn`t use in RS and it`s working.
ElNono
05-11-2016, 11:27 AM
Doesn't OKC get some credit for exposing this Spurs team? Not sure if some of you Spur fans ready to string Pop up to the nearest tree, were saying the same thing, when this team was rolling along winning 67 wins. I sure didn't see this coming, especially after game 1 of this series. I thought the Spur's overall depth would smother the Thunder. Also thought Westbrook would lose control and do his customary 1 on 5 schtick in crunch time. But OKC instead, has exposed this Spurs teams overall lack of athleticism. You hate Pop's shitty lineups, I get that, but isn't part of Pop's shitty lineup changes on OKC winning seemingly every matchup? Name one matchup that favors the Spurs: Kawhi maybe?, LMA?, etc... Why does LMA disappear in inopportune times, like the 4th quarter? Why hasn't Pop played Duncan more? Is Tim hurt? TP, at this stage in career, can only take over in spurts. Green has been solid overall imo, but where has Manu, Patty, Diaw, West, and the rest of the Spur's bench gone to? Going back to OKC, their two MVP candidates, have taking turns, taking over games in this series, while the Spurs have not been able to match their intensity. Its too easy to only blame Pop for this mess imo.
Of course there's a lot of blame to go around, tbh. But it makes complete sense to point your finger at the guy that's responsible to figure out what's working and what isn't and ultimately making the decisions to go down with the ship as-is, or not.
As mid pointed out in the other thread, Billy eventually figured out he couldn't play his backup PG even though he played all regular season long. The Anderson/West/Patty trio hasn't worked outside that fluke game 1, but Pop seems intent to go down with that ship. He signed up KMart and Miller, give them a shot. Even Boban, at this point, should have been something to try out there when we're getting murdered in the glass. He might not be ready for the bright lights, but it's patently clear that neither is Kyle, and he has no qualms of giving him minutes, as little as they are.
Brazil
05-11-2016, 11:55 AM
Doesn't OKC get some credit for exposing this Spurs team? Not sure if some of you Spur fans ready to string Pop up to the nearest tree, were saying the same thing, when this team was rolling along winning 67 wins. I sure didn't see this coming, especially after game 1 of this series. I thought the Spur's overall depth would smother the Thunder. Also thought Westbrook would lose control and do his customary 1 on 5 schtick in crunch time. But OKC instead, has exposed this Spurs teams overall lack of athleticism. You hate Pop's shitty lineups, I get that, but isn't part of Pop's shitty lineup changes on OKC winning seemingly every matchup? Name one matchup that favors the Spurs: Kawhi maybe?, LMA?, etc... Why does LMA disappear in inopportune times, like the 4th quarter? Why hasn't Pop played Duncan more? Is Tim hurt? TP, at this stage in career, can only take over in spurts. Green has been solid overall imo, but where has Manu, Patty, Diaw, West, and the rest of the Spur's bench gone to? Going back to OKC, their two MVP candidates, have taking turns, taking over games in this series, while the Spurs have not been able to match their intensity. Its too easy to only blame Pop for this mess imo.
I agree tbh... pop is not the one who shot 5/18 from the bench
resistanze
05-11-2016, 12:53 PM
I agree tbh... pop is not the one who shot 5/18 from the bench
He's the one who put out that bench repeatedly when it hasn't worked. There are other bench players you would've thought would give given a shot way before this point (Martin, Boban). Donovan is putting out Foye mid-series and benching Payne but Pop seemingly doesn't have a clue.
jjktkk
05-11-2016, 12:56 PM
Of course there's a lot of blame to go around, tbh. But it makes complete sense to point your finger at the guy that's responsible to figure out what's working and what isn't and ultimately making the decisions to go down with the ship as-is, or not.
As mid pointed out in the other thread, Billy eventually figured out he couldn't play his backup PG even though he played all regular season long. The Anderson/West/Patty trio hasn't worked outside that fluke game 1, but Pop seems intent to go down with that ship. He signed up KMart and Miller, give them a shot. Even Boban, at this point, should have been something to try out there when we're getting murdered in the glass. He might not be ready for the bright lights, but it's patently clear that neither is Kyle, and he has no qualms of giving him minutes, as little as they are.
Sorry El, but the trio you mentioned: Kmart, Miller, and Boban, were not going to change the outcome of these games imo. Maybe Boban, just with his rim protection alone, but I would worry that he would get exposed on defense. The Spurs need their two best players to consistently play like their two best players, especially in crunch time, you know like OKC's two best players. Neither Leonard, or Aldridge were able to able to do this. The whole bench disappeared. No one stepped up. Parker, Duncan, and Green played well in spurts, but you need Aldridge and Leonard to lead this team now. But Pop did put this team together, so he can definitely take the blame, but theirs plenty to go around imo.
TheGreatYacht
05-11-2016, 01:28 PM
I will not let this thread go to Page 2. Bump.
spursistan
05-11-2016, 01:41 PM
I will not let this thread go to Page 2. Bump.
Carlisle/Mavs should have tanked to push this faggot shit in again ..He really was lucky MVParker showed up in Game 7 in 2014..:lol
TheGreatYacht
05-11-2016, 01:48 PM
Carlisle/Mavs should have tanked to push this faggot shit in again ..He really was lucky MVParker showed up in Game 7 in 2014..:lol
He's always rode coattails, tbh.
Kawhi scores almost all of his points on ISO's. Duncan scored on post ups and bank shots. Parker relied on his speed and floaters. Manu had a free leash, Pop had nothing to do with him being great. Shit, even Aldridge is getting tougher shots than he did in Portland :lol ... Post ups 3 feet in front of the three point line, smfh.
The only thing you can give him credit for, I guess, are the role players like Green.. Although Chip Engelland has more to do with the shooters than Pop.
SAGirl
05-11-2016, 02:01 PM
Sorry El, but the trio you mentioned: Kmart, Miller, and Boban, were not going to change the outcome of these games imo. Maybe Boban, just with his rim protection alone, but I would worry that he would get exposed on defense. The Spurs need their two best players to consistently play like their two best players, especially in crunch time, you know like OKC's two best players. Neither Leonard, or Aldridge were able to able to do this. The whole bench disappeared. No one stepped up. Parker, Duncan, and Green played well in spurts, but you need Aldridge and Leonard to lead this team now. But Pop did put this team together, so he can definitely take the blame, but theirs plenty to go around imo.
I agree with you bc shitty lineups aside the stars reached 4th Q with a small lead that they squandered. Both games 4 and 5 Thunder stars reached the 4th from behind and took it. Our stars reached the 4th with a small lead and folded its that simple. You could even say game 3 we won bc Tony was clutch. When he wasn't the next two games it's a loss. That is on the stars. It should be on Kawhi and LMA.
POP played Timmy 30 minutes, I think that is the max for a guy his age and with his knee situation in this series. When your two best players fail to seize the moment it's time to put some burden on them.
jjktkk
05-11-2016, 02:11 PM
He's always rode coattails, tbh .Funny how all the great coaches in the NBA had great players to coach, hence the reason their great. Kinda goes hand in hand. Auerbach, Riley, Jackson, and Pop. Amazing huh?
HI-FI
05-11-2016, 02:15 PM
I don't think Pop is going anywhere, regardless of what happens this series. He's basically the face of the team now and with his Team USA gig, he's basically tenured and unfirable for his mistakes.
so if Team USA gets beat by some Euro scrubs, Pop will suck Lithuanian cock in the presser, and if someone criticizes his adjustments, he'll say
:pop: "is that a Euro question? They just made more shots than us."
TheGreatYacht
05-11-2016, 02:24 PM
.Funny how all the great coaches in the NBA had great players to coach, hence the reason their great. Kinda goes hand in hand. Auerbach, Riley, Jackson, and Pop. Amazing huh?
Great coaches don't choke games as much as Pop has. None come to mind. So either Pop isn't in their class, or it's bad luck.. Hint: it ain't bad luck
jjktkk
05-11-2016, 02:28 PM
Great coaches don't choke games as much as Pop has. None come to mind. So either Pop isn't in their class, or it's bad luck.. Hint: it ain't bad luck Lol, only on ST is Pop considered a bad coach.
Robz4000
05-11-2016, 02:31 PM
Lol, only on ST is Pop considered a bad coach.
Some of my friends who casually watch the NBA have started calling Pop out as well tbh. It's become a growing trend the past year, and rightly deserved.
TheGreatYacht
05-11-2016, 02:33 PM
Lol, only on ST is Pop considered a bad coach.
Not a bad coach, just not great. A good regular season coach is what he is imo.
Brazil
05-11-2016, 02:37 PM
He's the one who put out that bench repeatedly when it hasn't worked. There are other bench players you would've thought would give given a shot way before this point (Martin, Boban). Donovan is putting out Foye mid-series and benching Payne but Pop seemingly doesn't have a clue.
fair enough
jjktkk
05-11-2016, 02:40 PM
Some of my friends who casually watch the NBA have started calling Pop out as well tbh. It's become a growing trend the past year, and rightly deserved.
Well there you go, because your casual NBA fans would definitely know a bad coach when they see one.
HarlemHeat37
05-11-2016, 02:41 PM
Lol, only on ST is Pop considered a bad coach.
Pop is the greatest coach of all-time IMO, but the people defending his every move are just as bad as those calling him a bad coach, tbh..
It's not just Spurs fans that have been questioning him, btw, even credible people like Bob Voulgaris(pro NBA gambler) have been questioning his decisions since last year's Clippers series..it's quite possible for a coach to suffer a defeat from Father Time, it's not just players, it's human nature to burn out at some point..
jjktkk
05-11-2016, 02:42 PM
Not a bad coach, just not great. A good regular season coach is what he is imo.
Then how do explain the five rings then?
Killakobe81
05-11-2016, 02:44 PM
Pop is the greatest coach of all-time IMO, but the people defending his every move are just as bad as those calling him a bad coach, tbh..
It's not just Spurs fans that have been questioning him, btw, even credible people like Bob Voulgaris(pro NBA gambler) have been questioning his decisions since last year's Clippers series..it's quite possible for a coach to suffer a defeat from Father Time, it's not just players, it's human nature to burn out at some point..
agreed.
on almost all accounts.
I am partial to Riley just over Pop and Pjax but I grew up on Riles ...
I am obviously biased ...but would take Pop over Phil though ...
DenialTwist
05-11-2016, 02:47 PM
Pop is ride or die with an aging big three. He got his rings and doesn't have that same win at all costs mentality.
TheGreatYacht
05-11-2016, 02:47 PM
Then how do explain the five rings then?
#21, #50, #9, #20, #2, #12, and some guy called Bob that wore #5
HarlemHeat37
05-11-2016, 02:52 PM
agreed.
on almost all accounts.
I am partial to Riley just over Pop and Pjax but I grew up on Riles ...
I am obviously biased ...but would take Pop over Phil though ...
I don't know why people think that coaches don't "decline"..
The game is continuously evolving, coaches need to stay sharp..they have to have the fire and put the work in to stay ahead of the game, to recognize patterns and trends, incorporate new methods and the utilization of technological advantages(usage of data and numbers they didn't have before, etc)..
Pop is 67 years old and has 5 titles..the final title was the most satisfying, as he admitted IMO..how does a 67-year old man maintain the motivation to continue after that?(especially a cultured man like Pop, who doesn't live and die by basketball like Thibs, Stevens, etc)..Pop actually has interests outside of basketball, he doesn't have the same hunger he did 15 years ago, you aren't going to see him obsessing over every game and having sleepless nights like Stan Van Gundy:lol
Look at Phil Jackson..the game went by him before he even realized..the Lakers won back-to-back titles, yet when Rick Carlisle flipped the script and helped change the style and culture of the entire NBA, going forward, Jackson's Lakers were completely embarrassed and helpless..Phil didn't know what hit him, he didn't have any answers and his career was over, just like that..
The late 2000s Spurs needed to evolve, for instance..they didn't adapt, both stylistically and from a personnel standpoint, they surrounded an aging big 3 with old-ass role players, continuing to play a style of play that was antiquated..Pop put a ton of work in to change the direction of the team, it's been well-documented and he has spoken about it many times..he's 67 years old now and has won championships with several different styles and roster types..I highly doubt he still has the hunger to do it again, he's just going through the motions..
jjktkk
05-11-2016, 02:54 PM
Pop is the greatest coach of all-time IMO, but the people defending his every move are just as bad as those calling him a bad coach, tbh..
It's not just Spurs fans that have been questioning him, btw, even credible people like Bob Voulgaris(pro NBA gambler) have been questioning his decisions since last year's Clippers series..
Its totally fair to question his decisions, because he is stubborn. But posters on here go way overboard about how shitty a coach Pop is.[/QUOTE]
it's quite possible for a coach to suffer a defeat from Father Time, it's not just players, it's human nature to burn out at some point..
This is true, but to suddenly just get too old to coach, is a stretch imo, just because of the great season the Spurs have been having until this series.
HarlemHeat37
05-11-2016, 03:00 PM
Its totally fair to question his decisions, because he is stubborn. But posters on here go way overboard about how shitty a coach Pop is.
This is true, but to suddenly just get too old to coach, is a stretch imo, just because of the great season the Spurs have been having until this series.[/QUOTE]
I don't disagree with any of that, and I still think he's a very good coach, but like you said, he's very stubborn..IMO he's showing his age and reverting to bad habits that we saw in the late 2000s, such as sticking with "his guys"(Michael Finley all over again) even when they are liabilities, or not trusting a player(Splitter all over again) to contribute even when the original choice is completely shitting the bed..
The reluctance to allocate big minutes to the most productive players has been the most puzzling move IMO(especially since Aldridge, Kawhi and Green are in their physical prime), even moreso than Mills/Manu/Anderson/Diaw/West being the 2nd most utilized lineup in this series(which I understood at first, since he assumed the Spurs' heralded bench could beat OKC's atrocious bench, but at some point, you have to throw it out the window when it isn't working)..
spursistan
05-11-2016, 03:01 PM
Pop is going nowhere, but that spineless assistants crew has be put under the spotlight...
Killakobe81
05-11-2016, 03:04 PM
Pop is the greatest coach of all-time IMO, but the people defending his every move are just as bad as those calling him a bad coach, tbh..
It's not just Spurs fans that have been questioning him, btw, even credible people like Bob Voulgaris(pro NBA gambler) have been questioning his decisions since last year's Clippers series..it's quite possible for a coach to suffer a defeat from Father Time, it's not just players, it's human nature to burn out at some point..
and if he is burnt out how does coaching Team USA help?
Robz4000
05-11-2016, 03:04 PM
Well there you go, because your casual NBA fans would definitely know a bad coach when they see one.
They don't watch the NBA but most of them have played the sport most of their lives. They prefer to play sports over watching them.
HarlemHeat37
05-11-2016, 03:05 PM
and if he is burnt out how does coaching Team USA help?
:lol how much coaching do you have to do for the USA to win Gold, tbh? Especially when you will have great assistants, too..
I actually do think he'll be hyped for coaching the US team, he's been wanting to do it for a long time IIRC..it's something fresh..
spursistan
05-11-2016, 03:08 PM
We all thought Jim Boylen was dead-weight, but what has the likes of Messina/Borrego brought to the table? the so-called historic defense had early foundation with Kawhi/Green..Messina did shit when we couldn't stop the Clippers with a banged-up Splitter and that matchup was still problematic defensively even with LMA on board....
spursistan
05-11-2016, 03:18 PM
Type "Pop" & "outcoached" in twitter and fuckin' weep :lol..
spursistan
05-11-2016, 06:27 PM
BUMP.
This thread ain't gonna die until the pop-suckers here see the light TheGreatYacht :lol..
At least on twitter, he's getting roasted..
TheGreatYacht
05-11-2016, 06:40 PM
BUMP.
This thread ain't gonna die until the pop-suckers here see the light TheGreatYacht (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43719) :lol..
At least on twitter, he's getting roasted..
I've seen Timmy get discredited way too much because of Poop, fuck that. Duncan's back carried this guy for 20 years smfh
Those millions he sacrificed, all thrown away just because a senile old man is too stubborn to bench bowling ball head
ElNono
05-11-2016, 06:46 PM
Sorry El, but the trio you mentioned: Kmart, Miller, and Boban, were not going to change the outcome of these games imo. Maybe Boban, just with his rim protection alone, but I would worry that he would get exposed on defense. The Spurs need their two best players to consistently play like their two best players, especially in crunch time, you know like OKC's two best players. Neither Leonard, or Aldridge were able to able to do this. The whole bench disappeared. No one stepped up. Parker, Duncan, and Green played well in spurts, but you need Aldridge and Leonard to lead this team now. But Pop did put this team together, so he can definitely take the blame, but theirs plenty to go around imo.
I just think his stubbornness gets the best of him sometimes. Under the guise of "don't panic", he'll stick with stuff that you can tell from a mile away it's wrong and not working. The bench unit he's been throwing out there hasn't worked the whole series. It's not a game or two game occurrence. I feel he was sharper about that stuff in 2014, for example, with Beli, who he only tested here or there in the series, but went away from him when it was clear he was being targeted. I get that certain players are underperforming, but it's his job to figure how to counter that. It doesn't take a genius to see why Kanter and Adams can get a ton of rebounds over a guys like West or Boris.
The problem when he gets into this shitty mode, is that he doesn't really panic until is too late. Like against the Grizzlies in '08, when he sat Splitter the whole series and played Bonner instead, a strategy that completely backfired, and only trotted Thiago out there in the very last game, when the series was pretty much decided. That's why I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised to see him throwing Boban out there when we're getting shellacked on the boards again. Too little too late.
spursistan
05-11-2016, 07:06 PM
Remember a year ago..
594645699406368768
SAGirl
05-11-2016, 07:29 PM
Remember a year ago..
594645699406368768
Perspective. I bet Bosris is similar. Probably making vacation plans as soon as this is over.
TheGreatYacht
05-11-2016, 08:00 PM
Remember a year ago..
594645699406368768
:pop: It's just basketball
tholdren
05-11-2016, 08:10 PM
Season
Age
Tm
Lg
Pos
G
MP
PER
TS%
3PAr
FTr
ORB%
DRB%
TRB%
AST%
STL%
BLK%
TOV%
USG%
OWS
DWS
WS
WS/48
OBPM
DBPM
BPM
VORP
2015-16 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anderky01/gamelog/2016/)
22
SAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2016.html)
NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2016.html)
SF
9
114
7.6
.366
.143
.238
2.2
20.0
11.8
8.2
2.8
2.1
11.5
10.8
-0.1
0.3
0.1
.062
-2.6
3.6
1.0
0.1
Guess this Spur getting 13mpg
jjktkk
05-11-2016, 08:10 PM
I just think his stubbornness gets the best of him sometimes. Under the guise of "don't panic", he'll stick with stuff that you can tell from a mile away it's wrong and not working. The bench unit he's been throwing out there hasn't worked the whole series. It's not a game or two game occurrence. I feel he was sharper about that stuff in 2014, for example, with Beli, who he only tested here or there in the series, but went away from him when it was clear he was being targeted. I get that certain players are underperforming, but it's his job to figure how to counter that. It doesn't take a genius to see why Kanter and Adams can get a ton of rebounds over a guys like West or Boris.
The problem when he gets into this shitty mode, is that he doesn't really panic until is too late. Like against the Grizzlies in '08, when he sat Splitter the whole series and played Bonner instead, a strategy that completely backfired, and only trotted Thiago out there in the very last game, when the series was pretty much decided. That's why I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised to see him throwing Boban out there when we're getting shellacked on the boards again. Too little too late.
:tu
r0drig0lac
05-11-2016, 08:12 PM
Pop is ride or die with an aging big three. He got his rings and doesn't have that same win at all costs mentality.
tholdren
05-11-2016, 08:17 PM
RC - Should he trade parker or fire pop? one or the other.
Snaq O'Meal
05-11-2016, 08:25 PM
RC - Should he trade parker or fire pop? one or the other.
At this juncture, Parker is more valuable than Pop.
Strategic
05-11-2016, 08:41 PM
I don't see much decline in Pop's coaching. I remember a few years back when Parker was still in his late twenties a scene near the bench. Pop was trying to take Tony out of the game and he all but refused to sit down. Pop said okay get back out there. Someone please show this video to Kawhi Leonard. An 8 to 10 point lead is nothing against the Thunder. Leonard should be on the court more. He is three years younger than durant and Westbrook.
Also think Manu should be on the court in close games the last couple of minutes. He can't guard durant but he finishes better IMO.
The drama in this thread is crazy. You have an obvious more physical team and your solution is to overplay the big two, play a different set of d league talent.
I don't man, how about we just make shots. We don't have an answer for their bigs and we don't have a way to shut down durant and westy when they are hot. We can however shoot closer to 50% and make 3x shots.
tholdren
05-11-2016, 09:06 PM
The drama in this thread is crazy. You have an obvious more physical team and your solution is to overplay the big two, play a different set of d league talent.
I don't man, how about we just make shots. We don't have an answer for their bigs and we don't have a way to shut down durant and westy when they are hot. We can however shoot closer to 50% and make 3x shots.
yes. spurs have no one to get a rebound, you play your tallest, most physical player. why? because if he gives you ANYTHING it leads to momentum. When spurs outbound fat ass diaw or west its more than a second chance its demoralizing because they are imposing their will. to go down with a sinking ship without a fight is not only egotistical and stupid, but lazy. get some balls
diego
05-11-2016, 09:09 PM
all i know is, first game of the season OKC's bigs mauled diaw/west pairing and just about everyone on this board realized that meant either staggering aldridge and duncan or incorporating Boban into the rotation. 5 games into this series and pop is still trotting them out together!
and I know Im going to come off as a manu homer, but it really pisses me off that manu isnt getting more minutes in this series. tomorrow might be tim and manu's last game and they are likely to play small minutes, low fga to make room for west/diaw and mills/anderson. Those two have sacrificed so much for this team, agreed to come back for this season, only to watch pop fucking throw the series from the bench by going with inferior players who are playing like dogshit anyways (diaw especially, after Pop he is the biggest no show of this series). Half the reason to be confident about this matchup was pop vs donovan and he is getting destroyed.
Nbadan
05-12-2016, 12:53 AM
The POP way is finally paying off when it comes to attracting free agents, but Yeah, Pop is being blatantly out-coached by Donovan in this series....
Nbadan
05-12-2016, 01:09 AM
I just think his stubbornness gets the best of him sometimes. Under the guise of "don't panic", he'll stick with stuff that you can tell from a mile away it's wrong and not working. The bench unit he's been throwing out there hasn't worked the whole series. It's not a game or two game occurrence. I feel he was sharper about that stuff in 2014, for example, with Beli, who he only tested here or there in the series, but went away from him when it was clear he was being targeted. I get that certain players are underperforming, but it's his job to figure how to counter that. It doesn't take a genius to see why Kanter and Adams can get a ton of rebounds over a guys like West or Boris.
The problem when he gets into this shitty mode, is that he doesn't really panic until is too late. Like against the Grizzlies in '08, when he sat Splitter the whole series and played Bonner instead, a strategy that completely backfired, and only trotted Thiago out there in the very last game, when the series was pretty much decided. That's why I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised to see him throwing Boban out there when we're getting shellacked on the boards again. Too little too late.
Your probably right, but how great would it be too see Boban get significant minutes and be a factor in the game.. perhaps he can be used to neutralize Adams-Kanter on the boards.
spursistan
05-12-2016, 12:25 PM
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Why aren't we destroying Kanter with PNR drills is beyond me..
gambit1990
05-12-2016, 12:28 PM
after the last game, did a reporter ask if he was going to make adjustments?
then again, if pop was going to make adjustments i'm pretty sure he wouldn't tell a reporter... i can imagine pop just saying something like, "we'll see."
Do y'all guys get coupons for burger king and similar trash food and go "well ordinarily I don't eat trash but this coupon is too good not to use" so yes I ate two whoppers last night, but to the point, that coupon is David west.
You don't turn down a vet min deal like that....that said that roster spot and money isn't free.and in the end that deal really but us In the ass
polandprzem
05-12-2016, 01:53 PM
Hey on shootaround Pop said they invented a totally new play that OKC never seen before !
TheGreatYacht
05-12-2016, 02:04 PM
Hey on shootaround Pop said they invented a totally new play that OKC never seen before !
MVPCues
05-12-2016, 02:07 PM
Perspective. I bet Bosris is similar. Probably making vacation plans as soon as this is over.
I honestly have been thinking that his option will not be picked up for next year.
spursgu
05-12-2016, 02:15 PM
Pop knows his team won't get past the Dubs. Not this year. Especially when Tim is gonna miss shots he use to make.
Just like last year, he knew the team wasn't going anywhere without a healthy Parker or Tiago.
Snaq O'Meal
05-12-2016, 04:42 PM
Hey on shootaround Pop said they invented a totally new play that OKC never seen before !
He's probably gonna play Bonner at center for an inspiring Willis Reed moment.
polandprzem
05-12-2016, 06:10 PM
He's probably gonna play Bonner at center for an inspiring Willis Reed moment.
Bonner will come out of the locker room and the crowd will roar- he hits two treys and then sits the rest of the game and TP goes for 40 pts and 18 assissts !
TheGreatYacht
05-12-2016, 06:19 PM
Pop knows his team won't get past the Dubs. Not this year. Especially when Tim is gonna miss shots he use to make.
Just like last year, he knew the team wasn't going anywhere without a healthy Parker or Tiago.
That's your excuse? Crater face quit, just like last year just because the old guys looked old? That's why he plays West-Diaw-FatHead together?
LOL.
Snaq O'Meal
05-12-2016, 06:52 PM
Bonner will come out of the locker room and the crowd will roar- he hits two treys and then sits the rest of the game and TP goes for 40 pts and 18 assissts !
If the OKC crowd roars when Bonner enters the game, they know Pop is definitely done.
spursistan
05-12-2016, 07:55 PM
It is unreal...like i can't believe my eyes what Im' seeing out of this dude at this point..
?
It is unreal...like i can't believe my eyes what Im' seeing out of this dude at this point..:bang
What do you know, Boban can rebound
tholdren
05-12-2016, 08:04 PM
What do you know - I said this for weeks
midnightpulp
05-12-2016, 08:08 PM
One step forward, eight steps back. :tu Boban, but then the idiot (Pop) is still playing Fat Head and not FUCKIN PLAYING LEONARD the whole 1st quarter. KD has played 14 minutes to Kawhi's 10.
IT'S A CLOSE OUT GAME. Leonard needs to play 46 minutes. You can bet KD is getting 45 minutes tonight.
Going 6 deep off the bench in a playoff close out game :lmao
He's lost the plot.
midnightpulp
05-12-2016, 08:11 PM
:bang :bang :bang :bang
2:47 Kyle Anderson enters the game for Kawhi Leonard 19 - 17
Did any one of his dipshit assistants bring up the fact to him that every time that slow piece of shit enters the game, the Thunder go on a run?
apalisoc_9
05-12-2016, 08:12 PM
One step forward, eight steps back. :tu Boban, but then the idiot (Pop) is still playing Fat Head and not FUCKIN PLAYING LEONARD the whole 1st quarter. KD has played 14 minutes to Kawhi's 10.
IT'S A CLOSE OUT GAME. Leonard needs to play 46 minutes. You can bet KD is getting 45 minutes tonight.
Going 6 deep off the bench in a playoff close out game :lmao
He's lost the plot.
Been telling you this since last year. The media made him fall in love with his own system Bullshit
NASpurs
05-12-2016, 08:12 PM
:cry How many rings do you people who question Pop have? How dare you question him, you armchair coaches :cry
tholdren
05-12-2016, 08:13 PM
Leonard is too dumb to play 40 plus minutes. He relies on defense to offense transition buckets. He's a shitty half court player because he doesn't understand what is a good shot and what is a bad shot. This team is a worthless bunch of unintelligent basketball players.
NASpurs
05-12-2016, 08:14 PM
The guy is a great manager of egos, minutes and getting the effort from his players throughout the season but when it comes to adjustments and X's and O's, he's fucking lost it.
TheGreatYacht
05-12-2016, 08:17 PM
Bob Hill would out coach this fucking clown, any day of the fucking week
tholdren
05-12-2016, 08:18 PM
Bob Hill would out coach this fucking clown, any day of the fucking week
He stole Hills job, then took his draft pick, then rode tim duncan. FRAUD.
ElNono
05-12-2016, 08:19 PM
watch him throw Boban out there once we're down 10 in OKC just to convince himself that he shouldn't have played him this series...
:wow... so predictable, smh...
objective
05-12-2016, 08:28 PM
Pop's coaching has been a disgrace.
TheGreatYacht
05-12-2016, 08:39 PM
This thread will surpass the Jimmer thread. I will NOT let this get buried all offseason. I don't care if I get banned.
Thank you for everything Duncan, hope your back is fine from carrying a zit faced troll your whole career
Spur|n|Austin
05-12-2016, 08:43 PM
May be the worst coaching I've ever witnessed as far as competitive lineups go.
TheGreatYacht
05-12-2016, 08:48 PM
And Tim gets benched in the last half of his career.
Fuck you crater face
therealtruth
05-12-2016, 08:48 PM
The Spurs need to stop trying so hard during the regular season if they're going to mail it in for the playoffs. It just creates useless expectations.
spursistan
05-12-2016, 09:09 PM
This thread will surpass the Jimmer thread. I will NOT let this get buried all offseason. I don't care if I get banned.
Thank you for everything Duncan, hope your back is fine from carrying a zit faced troll your whole career
TheGreatYacht
05-12-2016, 09:27 PM
Bump
ElNono
05-12-2016, 09:35 PM
:lmao Andre Miller now making an appearance and surprisingly playing well for panic Pop...
:lmao Andre Miller now making an appearance and surprisingly playing well for panic Pop...
Typical. Too little too late.
objective
05-12-2016, 09:44 PM
I remembered some more of Pop's buffoonery costing the Spurs a series:
2008 against LA
game 1?, 18-20 point lead in the third, Bowen shutting Kobe down, gets only his third foul like halfway in the third, gets benched for some scrub like Udoka and Kobe WENT OFF and destroyed the scrubs. Their perfect chance to steal a game, take control, assert themselves as champions, and pop blows it because of 3 fouls halfway through the third.
HI-FI
05-12-2016, 09:46 PM
:pop: meh I answer to no one. I drink wines you can't even pronounce.
tholdren
05-12-2016, 09:47 PM
This thread will surpass the Jimmer thread. I will NOT let this get buried all offseason. I don't care if I get banned.
Thank you for everything Duncan, hope your back is fine from carrying a zit faced troll your whole career
Fuck the mods.
dabom
05-12-2016, 09:49 PM
:lmao Andre Miller now making an appearance and surprisingly playing well for panic Pop...
This should have been done long before this point. :lmao
Jubabe
05-12-2016, 09:49 PM
I can't believe that some of you dare to think you know how to coach better than Pop! If you did, you would be out making some really big bucks and not whining on an Internet forum.
lefty
05-12-2016, 09:50 PM
I can't believe that some of you dare to think you know how to coach better than Pop! If you did, you would be out making some really big bucks and not whining on an Internet forum.
Clearly we made poor life decisions
spurtech09
05-12-2016, 09:58 PM
Don't blame pop...The bench just did not help at all.....Plus doesn't help when your getting fouled but yet the refs are not calling it...the refs favored OKC throughtout the whole series....even tonight OKC was blowing out he Spurs and yet were still calling bad calls.
TheGreatYacht
05-12-2016, 10:01 PM
Lmao faggot ended the season with Fat head and West, fitting.
TheGreatYacht
05-12-2016, 10:03 PM
Reporter: Do you think you should've gone smaller sooner?
:pop: No. Are you coaching now? You shouldn't do that.
Faggot.
HI-FI
05-12-2016, 10:03 PM
:lol media still scared to call him out.
cant blame them, it's like Freddy Krueger with a PhD from Amherst
Jubabe
05-12-2016, 10:13 PM
Clearly we made poor life decisions
Clearly!
TheGreatYacht
05-12-2016, 10:14 PM
Bump
Aggie Hoopsfan
05-12-2016, 10:16 PM
One reporter calls him out, gets the asshole treatment back.
Typical Pop, gotta be a dick to anyone who questions his ability.
ElNono
05-12-2016, 10:19 PM
It's like Harlem said, tbh... he's one of the best when he has that fire burning... this Pop looks like 2008-2012 Pop, same predictable stuff... even the panicking...
We'll see what he can work out with Carmelo Aldrige and Kawhi going forward...
I actually thought he was ready to retire with Tim, but I guess the Aldrige request means he's going to stay for a while...
Mouth is Bleeding
05-12-2016, 10:27 PM
One reporter calls him out, gets the asshole treatment back.
Typical Pop, gotta be a dick to anyone who questions his ability.
yeah, the one who asked him about going small?
:pop: YOU'RE COACHING NOW? YOU SHOULD NOT DO THAT.
Look in the mirror POP.
Snaq O'Meal
05-12-2016, 10:30 PM
One step forward, eight steps back. :tu Boban, but then the idiot (Pop) is still playing Fat Head and not FUCKIN PLAYING LEONARD the whole 1st quarter. KD has played 14 minutes to Kawhi's 10.
IT'S A CLOSE OUT GAME. Leonard needs to play 46 minutes. You can bet KD is getting 45 minutes tonight.
Going 6 deep off the bench in a playoff close out game :lmao
He's lost the plot.
You were pretty close. KD played 43 minutes (while Kawhi only got 37 minutes).
Snaq O'Meal
05-12-2016, 10:34 PM
The guy is a great manager of egos, minutes and getting the effort from his players throughout the season but when it comes to adjustments and X's and O's, he's fucking lost it.
Can't lose what he never had. Adjustments were never Pop's forte.
The OKC coaching team made a shitload of adjustments and even called out the Spurs' plays while defending.
Meanwhile, Pop kept pounding his rock before finally giving up in a state of panic.
TheGreatYacht
05-12-2016, 10:36 PM
Props to ElNono for calling it to a tee. Panic Poop with panic rotations when it's too late and Spurs getting blown off the fucking building :lol
ElNono
05-12-2016, 10:37 PM
Props to ElNono for calling it to a tee. Panic Poop with panic rotations when it's too late and Spurs getting blown off the fucking building :lol
:lol thanks my nig, unfortunately for those of us that have been watching him pace the sidelines long enough, we know what kind of Pop you get sometimes, tbh...
wish I would've been wrong on this one...
I can't believe that some of you dare to think you know how to coach better than Pop! If you did, you would be out making some really big bucks and not whining on an Internet forum.
So I can't tell you how poor your service is when I pull into Wendy's because I haven't worked there?
Holden_Caulfield
05-12-2016, 10:40 PM
all those rest in the regular season :lol
objective
05-12-2016, 10:44 PM
It's not just the panic, it's that he's too old and done to even panic in time.
Go back to 2011: Pop turned to splitter in ... Game 4? And that's after having a multi season relationship with McDyess and Bonner to foolishly justify his loyalty to them against a huge front line that was destroying them
What happens this year? He can't even panic right. He waits until the second quarter of game 6 to try Boban for West after only a single season of relationship with West?
Pop in 2011 cost the Spurs the loss.
But the sad thing is, that 2011 Pop would have won this series because he would have given up on West 2 games ago.
Mikeanaro
05-12-2016, 10:47 PM
I made a thread a couple days ago and some dumb mod delete it, Pop is done and its time to have a new coach, maybe Messina since Bud is in Atlanta.
It was pathetic maybe the last time TD and Manu play for SA this uninterested showcase of misery appears, the worst part is they put a little effort at the end and suddendly West shoot 3s, Miller moves the ball great, DG sinks 3s, Duncan makes nice stuff and Defense is tight, but why at the end when its too late?
Same last season having hot handed Marco and Patty vs Clips and lettting them rot in the bench, his time is up, Soft card for you Pop time to let new people get in charge.
spursistan
05-12-2016, 10:47 PM
I hope also that crew of gutless assistants don't get a pass..they can't be this blind to his fuckups..:lol
ElNono
05-12-2016, 10:47 PM
It's not just the panic, it's that he's too old and done to even panic in time.
Go back to 2011: Pop turned to splitter in ... Game 4? And that's after having a multi season relationship with McDyess and Bonner to foolishly justify his loyalty to them against a huge front line that was destroying them
What happens this year? He can't even panic right. He waits until the second quarter of game 6 to try Boban for West after only a single season of relationship with West?
Pop in 2011 cost the Spurs the loss.
But the sad thing is, that 2011 Pop would have won this series because he would have given up on West 2 games ago.
I always defended Pop, but this series, you could see the same mistake happening again...
Frankly, we made fun of his assistants in 2014, but it's clear they were no yes man like these guys...
TheGreatYacht
05-12-2016, 10:47 PM
:lol thanks my nig, unfortunately for those of us that have been watching him pace the sidelines long enough, we know what kind of Pop you get sometimes, tbh...
wish I would've been wrong on this one...
Even rookie coaches read this mf like a book
:pctoss
therealtruth
05-12-2016, 10:48 PM
Can't lose what he never had. Adjustments were never Pop's forte.
The OKC coaching team made a shitload of adjustments and even called out the Spurs' plays while defending.
Meanwhile, Pop kept pounding his rock before finally giving up in a state of panic.
Exactly. The Thunder had the Spurs completely figured out. That reflects on the coaching battle which Pop lost big time.
itsamanuthree
05-12-2016, 10:50 PM
Lol @ Brazil
He's never been the same since Carlisimo left. Doesn't mean Carlisimo is head coach material, but was a great mind as an assistant.
Exactly. The Thunder had the Spurs completely figured out. That reflects on the coaching battle which Pop lost big time.
:pop: System know all. System see all. Mmmmmm...System good.
You can disagree with the basketball, but playing his guys in Timmy's last game seems right.
Look at yall calling for a different set of TOSB to play. Pathetic. This argument is just not worth it.
Give Kawhi and LMA more than a year to figure it out.
kobyz
05-12-2016, 10:55 PM
He's a regular season coach...
HarlemHeat37
05-12-2016, 10:57 PM
Danny Green said OKC knew everything the Spurs were going to do, tbh..that's not entirely on Pop, it's about the personnel, too, but this team was 1 step ahead of the rest of the NBA, just a few years ago..
ElNono
05-12-2016, 10:59 PM
Danny Green said OKC knew everything the Spurs were going to do, tbh..that's not entirely on Pop, it's about the personnel, too, but this team was 1 step ahead of the rest of the NBA, just a few years ago..
"When West goes in, time to make a run"... what else is there to know? :lol
Danny Green said OKC knew everything the Spurs were going to do, tbh..that's not entirely on Pop, it's about the personnel, too, but this team was 1 step ahead of the rest of the NBA, just a few years ago..
It's is on pop when he only plays the guys becuase they stand in the right spot on the court even if they are 40 and can't grab a rebound, can't get a loose ball, cant get a shot off, can't put it on the floor, can't go make a play out of nothing but pure energy and athleticism.
Plus, hes as much GM as RC.
SAGirl
05-12-2016, 11:02 PM
I love Pop TBH. looooove him. I criticize him a fair amount more than anything for being stubborn sticking with his vets most of the time when they sometimes don't have it, or sticking with stuff that is not working but he's special.
This league doesn't have enough guys like him. I can't hate on Pop, I just can't. You all have valid points here though. Lack of adjustments.
Maybe he result are the same, but at least he could have tried stuff. Still just for you: BOBAN 6:38 mins - 13. What was an attempt to bridge the gap got out of hand quickly. He got a bad deal on some O board fouls called on him rookie stuff. Also they didn't go to him enough.
Still I do agree adjustments should have been made earlier and if no one has anything you go back to the vets.
Too many guys were missing from this playoffs TBH, Patty, Diaw, Tony, LMA in stretches. Kmart? awful. Heck compared to that Kyle was ok bc he's 22 and it was his first season in reality with the team. Manu was poor too. Captain D west? Awful. Tim was sublime though and made me cry. Our offense was too predictable and easy to defend.
boutons_deux
05-12-2016, 11:04 PM
Danny Green said OKC knew everything the Spurs were going to do, tbh..that's not entirely on Pop, it's about the personnel, too, but this team was 1 step ahead of the rest of the NBA, just a few years ago..
Everybody knows what everybody else does, and prepares for. There are no secrets. It's execution of what got you to the playoffs.
Spurs missed tons of mid range, uncontested shots
OKC +14 pts at FT line.
As always, Spurs failed mentally, no fire, no guts, no focus, no intensity, in an elimination game.
gospursgojas
05-12-2016, 11:05 PM
Who takes over then?
lefty
05-12-2016, 11:06 PM
Pop has never repeated TBH...
Phil Jackson has THREEPEATED ..............3 TIMES .... and B2B later
:lol even Kerr is going to repeat
SAGirl
05-12-2016, 11:07 PM
It's not just the panic, it's that he's too old and done to even panic in time.
Go back to 2011: Pop turned to splitter in ... Game 4? And that's after having a multi season relationship with McDyess and Bonner to foolishly justify his loyalty to them against a huge front line that was destroying them
What happens this year? He can't even panic right. He waits until the second quarter of game 6 to try Boban for West after only a single season of relationship with West?
Pop in 2011 cost the Spurs the loss.
But the sad thing is, that 2011 Pop would have won this series because he would have given up on West 2 games ago.
What is up with that? Some said D west taking that huge discount was the kiss of death.
What if he comes back? :lol
ElNono
05-12-2016, 11:10 PM
For posterity's sake, this thread was created after we won Game 3, and were up 2-1 in the series...
SAGirl
05-12-2016, 11:11 PM
Danny Green said OKC knew everything the Spurs were going to do, tbh..that's not entirely on Pop, it's about the personnel, too, but this team was 1 step ahead of the rest of the NBA, just a few years ago..
IMO the decline of the big 3. It's what it is yea big man Melo as you call him and Kawhi. Lean times ahead
At least I enjoy watching developing players, a few here will go bonkers.
For posterity's sake, this thread was created after we won Game 3, and were up 2-1 in the series...
For more posterity sake, people have been saying this way longer than you have. :lol
SAGirl
05-12-2016, 11:12 PM
For posterity's sake, this thread was created after we won Game 3, and were up 2-1 in the series...
:lol you sneaky you. There are bound to be plenty of bumps of this next season you know that right?
TheGreatYacht
05-12-2016, 11:13 PM
She really just shit on everybody except for Vending Machine head, :cry because he's 22 :cry
Second year and his body still looks like a sloppy couch potato and his shot regressed even more. I swear to you, Fat head might've gotten slower
ElNono
05-12-2016, 11:14 PM
:lol you sneaky you. There are bound to be plenty of bumps of this next season you know that right?
I only care about playoff Pop, tbh... I'm fine with bumps and would love him to find his coaching fire again, and take a dump on this thread...
elemento
05-12-2016, 11:14 PM
Considering the outcome if the 1st game of this series and the talent that he Spurs had, it's easily one of the most disappointing series ever. Lack of fire, adjustments, Pop looked hopeless after Donovan's adjustments post-game 1.
It looked like 2012 all over again after Thabo's switch on Parker.
I hope he lets Becky be the teams soul. Fake an injury and let her bench.
Pop used to be a hard ass but he's turned into a player's coach....like a rich man's byron scott.
He could move to the Front office and lead the practices but have becky call plays and bark at officials.
Becky, udoka, bonner.
gospursgojas
05-12-2016, 11:16 PM
Donovan's adjustment to win series- No more Cam Payne
Pops adjustments- More Kyle Anderson, David West, and finally Kevin Martin
YGWHI
05-12-2016, 11:17 PM
"When West goes in, time to make a run"... what else is there to know? :lol
Well, Danny said OKC knew every Spurs play and call it from the bench.
Part is on Pop being predictable, but also their scouting was a lot better than Spurs'.
Mouth is Bleeding
05-12-2016, 11:19 PM
It did seem like they knew everything we did but hopefully it wasn't because we were outprepared and all our plays scouted but rather just how stagnant and predictable the offense was with no ball movement and no spacing.
It's not exactly the most difficult thing to defend, and we saw many times during the regular season how the offense couldn't get going at all before the bench entered. Our offense turned a longterm unreliable defensie into a juggernaut!
Unfortunately Pop never made adjustments to make our offense match up better with OKC very well known defensive weaknesses and unfortunately our bench relying too much on West and Kyle were ill suited to defend KD (BIG SURPRISE YET POP CONTINUED TO HAVE BOTH DANNY AND KAWHI OUT WHEN KD WAS IN) and rebound against very physical bigs.
YGWHI
05-12-2016, 11:20 PM
For posterity's sake, this thread was created after we won Game 3, and were up 2-1 in the series...
Another Pop's epic meltdown.
Like his record on elimination games.
ElNono
05-12-2016, 11:20 PM
Well, Danny said OKC knew every Spurs play and call it from the bench.
Part is on Pop being predictable, but also their scouting was a lot better than Spurs'.
Frankly, there was plenty of time for Pop to shake things up but he chose to keep going with that same shitty bench lineup and midget duo up until tonight.
So, I don't wanna hear how scouting was the cop-out. I'm sure the Spurs did their due diligence also, but eventually it's on you to adjust. Billy did.
One reporter calls him out, gets the asshole treatment back.
Typical Pop, gotta be a dick to anyone who questions his ability.
Much as I like Pop, I wonder how his tenure as National Team coach will go.
Pop's whole shtick with the press is that it's his team and you're a pathetic know-nothing outsider. That's fine if you're coaching a club team in a smaller market.
But when you're the face of the National Team -- a team that the whole country takes ownership in, Pop's act may not fly.
If he comes off as smug, arrogant, and uncaring after a loss that eliminates our Olympic team from the Gold Medal, I'm not sure how he fares in a room full of national press corps . . .
SuperCam
05-12-2016, 11:22 PM
Add billy to the list of coaches who son'd Poopavich despite being favored...
http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/7GF.KX_aDcqNdRf9ukM.Ug--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztxPTg1O3c9MjUw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/Sports/ap/201504292156789650052 http://redsarmy.typepad.com/.a/6a01156f2c3287970c0163045afd89970d-250wi http://sportsradiointerviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/20121225_jel_su8_108.0_standard_352.0.jpg https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5021/5632127567_7d78d533b2_z.jpg http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Rick+Carlisle+Miami+Heat+v+Dallas+Mavericks+DUDaYn bWbWsl.jpg http://media.nola.com/lsu_impact/photo/17437915-large.jpghttp://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.169908!/img/httpImage/image.jpg
YGWHI
05-12-2016, 11:26 PM
Frankly, there was plenty of time for Pop to shake things up but he chose to keep going with that same shitty bench lineup and midget duo up until tonight.
So, I don't wanna hear how scouting was the cop-out. I'm sure the Spurs did their due diligence also, but eventually it's on you to adjust. Billy did.
Playing shitty lineups.
Taking horrible game-late decisions.
Being reluctant to make adjustments.
Even a rookie coach like Donovan outplayed him.
TheGreatYacht
05-12-2016, 11:27 PM
Add billy to the list of coaches who son'd Poopavich despite being favored...
http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/7GF.KX_aDcqNdRf9ukM.Ug--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztxPTg1O3c9MjUw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/Sports/ap/201504292156789650052 http://redsarmy.typepad.com/.a/6a01156f2c3287970c0163045afd89970d-250wi http://sportsradiointerviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/20121225_jel_su8_108.0_standard_352.0.jpg https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5021/5632127567_7d78d533b2_z.jpg http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Rick+Carlisle+Miami+Heat+v+Dallas+Mavericks+DUDaYn bWbWsl.jpg http://media.nola.com/lsu_impact/photo/17437915-large.jpghttp://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.169908!/img/httpImage/image.jpg
Ma nig Alvin Gentry too!
Even a rookie coach like Donovan outplayed him.
Billy Donovan is one of the better basketball coaches in the world.
What he did at Florida is nothing short of miraculous.
I remember being very worried when I first heard OKC had hired him.
TheyCallMePro
05-12-2016, 11:37 PM
I went to a regular season game this year when we played the Pelicans. We won, but it was close until late in the 4th quarter. There was no ball movement, but Aldridge scored 40 and we won.
After the game I told everyone that the Spurs had no chance vs the Thunder or Warriors this year. I couldn't believe what I had just witnessed. We no longer shot 3's. We no longer moved the ball. And we went to Aldridge every other time down the floor. We relied on mid-range jumpers and there was no spacing at all. Danny Green and Patty Mills had now been rendered useless. It was bad, slow, 90's style basketball. This wasn't the Spurs I had grown up watching. For once during the Big 3 era, everyone on the court actually looked their age. They looked just as old and slow as everyone had said they were for years. And it was all because Pop had decided to change the style of play to cater to Lamarcus Aldridge.
Pop went away from playing Spurs basketball this year. And I do mean the entire year. The NBA only ever has about 4-5 good teams. And the Spurs struggled tremendously against them. The record was fools gold.
As for tonight:
-No Boris Diaw WTF!? Needed to space the floor. Terrible decision not to play him. Should never have been in Pop's doghouse if it was just for bad play. Several Spurs would have been in it if it was only that. WTF was goin on?
- Patty Mills got benched after 3 minutes for K-Mart. LOL so let's play without a PG and have Manu turn it over and let OKC make a run when were up 19-13. Maybe put it Andre Miller in the 1st qtr instead of the 4th!?
- The lack of 3 point shooting, ball movement, and spacing was just appalling. Especially when we were making a run in the 4th and STILL SHOOTING JUMP SHOTS AND NOT 3'S. Where's the urgency?????
- Boban is a VICTORY CIGAR. NOTHING MORE. HE CAN'T GUARD ANYONE. HE'S TOO SLOW. PLAYING HIM WAS A RAGE-QUIT MOVE BY POP. The lineups were just AWFUL tonight.
- The team looked shell-shocked in the 2nd quarter when OKC made their big run. Pop should have used all of his timeout and shook some guys. The team lost it's spirit. I think because of the awkward lineups.
If Duncan and Ginobili retire, then Pop needs to aswell. We need a fresh start. This playoff series was a disaster.
YGWHI
05-12-2016, 11:47 PM
Billy Donovan is one of the better basketball coaches in the world.
What he did at Florida is nothing short of miraculous.
I remember being very worried when I first heard OKC had hired him.
He was a rookie this season.
I've said before that Donovan is a big upgrade over Brooks but the transition from college to NBA isn't easy.
Not sure if he could go away from the Brooks iso-heavy scheme but at least he could manage KD minutes, get every one involved, and make the team plays strong defense, he made Kanter look decent at D...
Random5843
05-13-2016, 12:15 AM
Another season goes by and Pop gets new wine.
The bad overweights the good he still has.
Unfortunately if he goes means at least Duncan hangs up. But we need another coach. A good one not empty preachers or morons that are dime a dozen in this league.
BG_Spurs_Fan
05-13-2016, 12:33 AM
Spurs are the better team overall but they lost because of the coaching staff. Not just Pop, assistants too.
Sure Pop looks done after 2014, but there was a bit of fire in him at the start of this season, he seemed to be really invested early on, but he faded during the season just like the big 3 did - progressively worse each month. He couldn't get the team to peak at the right timeand he's not even shown his oldtime playoff panicking and overreaction, just kept pounding the rock with his head. He looks like the coaching version of Tim Duncan right now.
That said, this has not been a lost season for the Spurs. They've shown they didn't have it in them, going down 25 at half time in an elimination game, they just didn't have it. But they've laid the foundations of a post big 3 Spurs and a clever FO could come up with great things from an unparalleled cap jump and chaos that is coming up in the next 2 years.
spursistan
05-13-2016, 12:36 AM
730966401951768576
Warriors beat writer :lol..
were' seeing more journalists suddenly starting to treat like he isn't a holy cow..
Godbama
05-13-2016, 12:38 AM
Much as I like Pop, I wonder how his tenure as National Team coach will go.
Pop's whole shtick with the press is that it's his team and you're a pathetic know-nothing outsider. That's fine if you're coaching a club team in a smaller market.
But when you're the face of the National Team -- a team that the whole country takes ownership in, Pop's act may not fly.
If he comes off as smug, arrogant, and uncaring after a loss that eliminates our Olympic team from the Gold Medal, I'm not sure how he fares in a room full of national press corps . . .
as Pop would say, it's still just basketball
J_Paco
05-13-2016, 12:46 AM
Add billy to the list of coaches who son'd Poopavich despite being favored...
http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/7GF.KX_aDcqNdRf9ukM.Ug--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztxPTg1O3c9MjUw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/Sports/ap/201504292156789650052 http://redsarmy.typepad.com/.a/6a01156f2c3287970c0163045afd89970d-250wi http://sportsradiointerviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/20121225_jel_su8_108.0_standard_352.0.jpg https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5021/5632127567_7d78d533b2_z.jpg http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Rick+Carlisle+Miami+Heat+v+Dallas+Mavericks+DUDaYn bWbWsl.jpg http://media.nola.com/lsu_impact/photo/17437915-large.jpghttp://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.169908!/img/httpImage/image.jpg
When the hell was Rick Carlisle the coach of a team that was the underdog and won (against San Antonio)?
And the Spurs definitely weren't the favorites against the Clippers last season.
On all the other coaches, I sadly agree
gambit1990
05-13-2016, 01:35 AM
him waiting so long to even try an adjustment is indefensible...
i was thrilled when payne was on the floor... billy decided enough was enough...
spursistan
05-13-2016, 02:04 AM
Lost two consecutive playoff series with 2-1 lead with his team having +25 blowout in both..
as Pop would say, it's still just basketball
If he blows the Gold Medal, he'll wish it was just basketball. :lol
timtonymanu
05-13-2016, 02:17 AM
Lost two consecutive playoff series with 2-1 lead with his team having +25 blowout in both..
2 straight seasons where Pop has mailed it in. He's the greatest coach ever and has done great things for this team, but this immune to criticism status of his is ridiculous. I loved that someone actually called him out in the postgame, which of course Pop was smug about :rolleyes. If Pop is content, he should just retire with Tim and Manu so Kawhi/Green aren't having to deal with this nonsense while they're in the primes.
Ginobili3
05-13-2016, 02:20 AM
I had no idea what the fuck he was doing playing David West so much in Game 4 or 5 (forget which).
spursistan
05-13-2016, 02:26 AM
2 straight seasons where Pop has mailed it in. He's the greatest coach ever and has done great things for this team, but this immune to criticism status of his is ridiculous. I loved that someone actually called him out in the postgame, which of course Pop was smug about :rolleyes. If Pop is content, he should just retire with Tim and Manu so Kawhi/Green aren't having to deal with this nonsense while they're in the primes.
Yep...honestly think someone like Carlisle would have gotten more out of this roster in a playoff setting (would have probably pushed the Warriors to 7)..he had freakin' Raymond Felton shredding OKC D for long stretches..
Evidence is mounting about Pop losing his edge-- the real one, not his dickhead act with the media..
siraulo23
05-13-2016, 02:42 AM
The Spurs won 67 games but it just never seemed like at any point in the season where pop had any idea what he wanted to do with the team
The defense was definitely overrated relying on a lot of switching in the regular season. Once Duncan regressed no more rim protector. Offensively he was clueless, the team didnt really have an identity and thats on Pop.
lefty
05-13-2016, 02:55 AM
:lol Cuckovich
TheGreatYacht
05-13-2016, 04:07 AM
:lol Cuckovich
Louis Van Cuck of the NBA? :lol
99 Problems
05-13-2016, 05:47 AM
If he blows the Gold Medal, he'll wish it was just basketball. :lol
MVPatty will go 20/20 from the 3, get steals from our PGs and ensure a treasure chest of silver for Pop's boys.
kobyz
05-13-2016, 07:01 AM
It's the beard! Why he refuse to understand his beard killing the team???
It's the beard! Why he refuse to understand his beard killing the team???
If he keeps that beard, who knows how low Team USA can go. Even his grumpy act seems harder to take with that hideous scrag.
Pop's record with and without the beard is telling.
But it's too late now . . . :depressed
Much as I like Pop, I wonder how his tenure as National Team coach will go.
Pop's whole shtick with the press is that it's his team and you're a pathetic know-nothing outsider. That's fine if you're coaching a club team in a smaller market.
But when you're the face of the National Team -- a team that the whole country takes ownership in, Pop's act may not fly.
If he comes off as smug, arrogant, and uncaring after a loss that eliminates our Olympic team from the Gold Medal, I'm not sure how he fares in a room full of national press corps . . .
Pop already lost one gold medal. He was coaching the year that Manu's Argentine team won the Olympic Gold.
So, sure - he could do it again. I don't think that he will, but he could.
Look, one of the biggest characteristics of the team this year was their offensive struggles. That has often been a characteristic of Pop's teams, because he stresses defense so much. But he never (well, hardly ever) has the team do a 'shoot around' on the morning of a big game, because he 'doesn't think they need it', and 'shoot arounds are usually a bunch of crap.
Given the difficulty that the Spurs had with making uncontested shots this year, I would appreciate Pop re-thinking that practice.
spursistan
05-13-2016, 02:16 PM
Lost two consecutive playoff series with 2-1 lead with his team having +25 blowout in both..
just came across stat Phil Jackson is 49-0 when he wins 1st game of the series..
And folks call our choking faggot coach the GOAT :lmao..
spursistan
05-13-2016, 02:20 PM
roster upgrade won't matter for the Spurs as long as Pop is a liability in playoffs basketball..
lefty
05-13-2016, 02:24 PM
just came across stat Phil Jackson is 49-0 when he wins 1st game of the series..
And folks call our choking faggot coach the GOAT :lmao..
My nigguh
:lol Spurm fans hating on Phil GOATson
TheGreatYacht
05-13-2016, 02:44 PM
People make fun of Phil Jackson because he won't go away from the Triangle..
They wanna see stingy? Look at the piece of shit running this team
spursistan
05-13-2016, 03:01 PM
731145944687730690
Finally journalists/basketball mavens are breaking the psychological barrier and laying into possibly the most overrated coach in 2016 NBA..
houston spurs fan
05-13-2016, 03:19 PM
I've always loved Pop but when he trotted out Martin in the 2nd quarter and had that lineup on the floor, I was literally screaming at my tv. Especially when Kmart shot that airball 3 it was like dafuck is he trying to do to us here. Surprised Bonner didn't see action last night. Fuck.
TheGreatYacht
05-13-2016, 03:47 PM
731145944687730690
Finally journalists/basketball mavens are breaking the psychological barrier and laying into possibly the most overrated coach in 2016 NBA..
Pop suckers mad on the replies to that tweet :lmao
Great job by the National Media calling the clown out. Hopefully casuals are next
spursistan
05-13-2016, 03:51 PM
Pop suckers mad on the replies to that tweet :lmao
Great job by the National Media calling the clown out. Hopefully casuals are next
731177739416276992
not even pretending anymore.. he's quit on the team..
Holt paying 10 Millions-a-year for this same shit until 2020 :lmao...
weeks
05-13-2016, 04:00 PM
i can't stand pop and his breathtaking arrogance. the dude is an absolute fucker. mailed that shit right in.
This thread reeks of salt.
Not even gonna rebut it cause y'all made no argument except "Kyle and west suck"
Pop ain't gonna coach lma to have balls, ain't gonna coach kiwi to take control.
Team sucks, deal with it.
HI-FI
05-13-2016, 04:19 PM
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not even pretending anymore.. he's quit on the team..
Holt paying 10 Millions-a-year for this same shit until 2020 :lmao...
:wow :lmao
you gotta be kidding me? he's such an arrogant, overrated prick.
spursistan
05-13-2016, 04:23 PM
:wow :lmao
you gotta be kidding me? he's such an arrogant, overrated prick.
dbreiden83080
05-13-2016, 04:24 PM
If there are people here that think the Spurs have 5 rings in Duncan's era with just any old coach you are just wrong. Pop also coached the Spurs to wins over the likes of Phil Jackson and Larry Brown.
daslicer
05-13-2016, 04:36 PM
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Finally journalists/basketball mavens are breaking the psychological barrier and laying into possibly the most overrated coach in 2016 NBA..
The article in a nutshell "Billy Donovan is a genius because he played Kanter and Adams at the same time and punishes the Spurs lack of size. Pop should have countered by playing small ball or running pick and rolls." Who could the Spurs run pic and roll with Parker-Aldridge, or Ginobili-Aldridge? Would moving Kawhi over to PF against the white twin towers work? I doubt it. Overall idiotic article there is not much of a difference Pop could have made with the roster personnel against this team.
ceperez
05-13-2016, 04:38 PM
He was definitely out coached in this matchup. He didn't make adjustments for game 4,5 and 6 when it was obvious that the offense was stalling.
HankChinaski
05-13-2016, 04:41 PM
What changes should he have made that could have made sense.
ElNono
05-13-2016, 04:47 PM
This thread reeks of salt.
:lol this thread was created during Game 3 (which we won) and ended up 2-1 in the series. Exactly why I said in the OP that I didn't care what the result was...
spurraider21
05-13-2016, 04:50 PM
Boban 6 minutes 1 rebound 3 fouls
TheGreatYacht
05-13-2016, 04:55 PM
731177739416276992
not even pretending anymore.. he's quit on the team..
Holt paying 10 Millions-a-year for this same shit until 2020 :lmao...
I can read this dude like a fucking book :lmao
:pop: It's just basketball
Predictable Pop, per par. No shame at all, just flat out quit and isn't afraid to admit it
TheGoldStandard
05-13-2016, 04:57 PM
Pop needs to take a step back and let someone start to facilitate the coaching.. Probably go harder at practice, shoot around, invent some new plays or schemes that will go with the new identity of the team. There is no way that you can repeatedly do the same thing over and over and get the same results and not realize that something has to give.
Canyonero
05-13-2016, 05:01 PM
OP is a visionary
So do you really think we need a new coach just to tell guys "hit open shots"
If anything this season was screwed chasing a white whale... The warriors. Pop had to invent his gimmicks, his garden of mid range chuckers.
Okc caught us with a huge matchup advantage, despite that being so, we could have won had we just shot well throughout the series.
TheGreatYacht
05-13-2016, 05:20 PM
So do you really think we need a new coach just to tell guys "hit open shots"
If anything this season was screwed chasing a white whale... The warriors. Pop had to invent his gimmicks, his garden of mid range chuckers.
Okc caught us with a huge matchup advantage, despite that being so, we could have won had we just shot well throughout the series.
There's plenty of coaches who can coach ISO ball/post up ball... And most of em ain't senile.
timtonymanu
05-13-2016, 05:23 PM
Like I said, Pop just needs to retire if he's just gonna stroke his own ego when he gets called out. It's Kawhi, LMA, and Danny's prime. Hand the keys over to a new coach.
TheGreatYacht
05-13-2016, 05:26 PM
So do you really think we need a new coach just to tell guys "hit open shots"
If anything this season was screwed chasing a white whale... The warriors. Pop had to invent his gimmicks, his garden of mid range chuckers.
Okc caught us with a huge matchup advantage, despite that being so, we could have won had we just shot well throughout the series.
There's plenty of coaches who can coach ISO ball/post up ball... And most of em ain't senile.
tholdren
05-13-2016, 05:40 PM
There's plenty of coaches who can coach ISO ball/post up ball... And most of em ain't senile.
I'll throw my hat in.
"hey KL - go dribble the ball for 20 seconds and take a fadeaway or pass it"
Hoops Czar
05-13-2016, 05:47 PM
I'll throw my hat in.
"hey KL - go dribble the ball for 20 seconds and take a fadeaway or pass it"
Oh, somebody else noticed this too.:lol And people have the audacity to throw Parker under the bus
RD2191
05-13-2016, 05:49 PM
Pop is beyond done. He's been eaten and shitted out.
RD2191
05-13-2016, 05:50 PM
What sucks is that he's failed to make the most obvious adjustments time and time again.
tholdren
05-13-2016, 05:59 PM
What sucks is that he's failed to make the most obvious adjustments time and time again.
Well it must suck to only realize this now - its happened every year SA underachieves
therealtruth
05-13-2016, 08:18 PM
just came across stat Phil Jackson is 49-0 when he wins 1st game of the series..
And folks call our choking faggot coach the GOAT :lmao..
I've been point that stat out for a while. PJ always had that mental edge or killer instinct on the opponent. So when he gained the advantage in the series he always closed it out. One of the first things Pop gives up is the mental edge. When they beat down OKC in game 1 he still conceded it.
dbestpro
05-13-2016, 08:20 PM
I'll throw my hat in.
"hey KL - go dribble the ball for 20 seconds and take a fadeaway or pass it"
Iso ball is ugly ball, and ain't worth watching. When the passes stopped, so did the wins.
therealtruth
05-13-2016, 08:23 PM
Well it must suck to only realize this now - its happened every year SA underachieves
It drives me nuts when people let Pop of the hook. The Spurs simply weren't good enough. When you're the favorite going into a series and you lose that's called underachiever and it reflects on the coach first. A great coach instills confidence in his team and the team plays like that. And it's not like he can't do it. In '14 he was a driving force for that 'ship. He minimized his mistakes and was quick to make adjustments.
TheGreatYacht
05-14-2016, 01:25 PM
Y'all let this slip to the second page? Smh
spursistan
05-14-2016, 01:45 PM
Y'all let this slip to the second page? Smh
this thread is going to be gold next season.. look for glorious "Pop when Timmy is not there to hold his hand :lmao" bumps..
expecting this shit to be +50 pages by end of next year playoffs..assuming we make it there :lol
TheGreatYacht
05-14-2016, 01:56 PM
this thread is going to be gold next season.. look for glorious "Pop when Timmy is not there to hold his hand :lmao" bumps..
expecting this shit to be +50 pages by end of next year playoffs..assuming we make it there :lol
:rollin
Sean Cagney
05-14-2016, 02:05 PM
It drives me nuts when people let Pop of the hook. The Spurs simply weren't good enough. When you're the favorite going into a series and you lose that's called underachiever and it reflects on the coach first. A great coach instills confidence in his team and the team plays like that. And it's not like he can't do it. In '14 he was a driving force for that 'ship. He minimized his mistakes and was quick to make adjustments.
After 2014 even he lost that edge it seemed, 5 settled everyone down and made them content IMHO.
TheGoldStandard
05-14-2016, 02:08 PM
Someone needs to TM "It's Just Basketball" T-shirts with the face of Pop on there.. might be hearing that a lot next season if he refuses to coach and RC can't bring in help.
731145944687730690
Finally journalists/basketball mavens are breaking the psychological barrier and laying into possibly the most overrated coach in 2016 NBA..
Two statements by Stephen A. Smith expose him as the front-running know-nothing that he is (although I must admit I find him entertaining):
After the Game One OKC blowout, SAS ridiculed anyone who sounded a cautionary note by comparing the Spurs' blowout win to the Celtics' blowout win over the Lakers in Game One of the 1985 NBA Finals which the Celtics went on to lose in 6.
SAS basically said there is no comparison because, unlike the Lakers, OKC had no chance in the series.
Then SAS ridiculed OKC for putting a "rookie" coach like Billy Donovan up against Gregg Popovich. Actually, Donovan outcoached Pop as I feared he might.
SAS should have known that Donovan had already done something Pop (or any other coach) most likely never could have -- win two NCAA basketball championships at a Southern football school like Florida.
Two statements by Stephen A. Smith expose him as the front-running know-nothing that he is (although I must admit I find him entertaining):
After the Game One OKC blowout, SAS ridiculed anyone who sounded a cautionary note by comparing the Spurs' blowout win to the Celtics' blowout win over the Lakers in Game One of the 1985 NBA Finals which the Celtics went on to lose in 6.
SAS basically said there is no comparison because, unlike the Lakers, OKC had no chance in the series.
Then SAS ridiculed OKC for putting a "rookie" coach like Billy Donovan up against Gregg Popovich. Actually, Donovan outcoached Pop as I feared he might.
SAS should have known that Donovan had already done something Pop (or any other coach) most likely never could have -- win two NCAA basketball championships at a Southern football school like Florida.
SAS is a dumbass. He's staying on ESPN while everybody is jumping ship. That should be enough.
therealtruth
05-14-2016, 03:19 PM
I think it's time for Pop to go back upstairs into the FO. Find a young and hungry coach who really wants to win.
tholdren
05-14-2016, 03:23 PM
SAS is a dumbass. He's staying on ESPN while everybody is jumping ship. That should be enough.
ESPN has marketed toward just the demo for SAS why would he leave?
spursistan
05-15-2016, 02:36 PM
BUMP...
All discussion about Pop ineptitude should be here..IMO..
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