Pop is offcially done...

[SuperCam]

I think it's time for Pop to go back upstairs into the FO. Find a young and hungry coach who really wants to win.

if history is any indicator he will wait to spurs fluke lottery win again and then fire RC 18 games into the season

[spursistan]

https://giant.gfycat.com/NearBoldBonobo.gif

Pop last seen as difference-making coach on Spurs bench :cry

[Snaq O'Meal]

What sucks is that he's failed to make the most obvious adjustments time and time again.

Pop calls it "pounding the rock."

[SAGirl]

Cojo playing in the eastern conference finals but couldn't get off the bench playing for Pop against the Clippers. Even with Ausitin Rivers going HAM on Patty.

[lefty]

Cojo playing in the eastern conference finals but couldn't get off the bench playing for Pop against the Clippers. Even with Ausitin Rivers going HAM on Parker.

fify

[lefty]

Dick Jefferson didnt go to the Finals with Pop...


But he did with fucking Byron Scott and Lue :lol

[Snaq O'Meal]

Russell Westbrook Recommended Thunder Take Out Enes Kanter

Russell Westbrook recommended the Oklahoma City Thunder take Enes Kanter out of the game midway through the second quarter of Game 4.

With Draymond Green shooting a pair of free throws, Westbrook walked over to the Oklahoma City bench. Westbrook first talked to Maurice Cheeks and then to Billy Donovan.

"Take him out," said Westbrook, referring to Kanter.

Donovan, after a brief consultation with Cheeks, went down the bench, called for Andre Roberson to come to the scorer’s table and removed Kanter from the game.

“I’ve tried to foster that kind of stuff because I think what happens a lot of times with players is a lot of times it may be, I don’t want them to feel like they can’t come to me,” Donovan said.

“I want Kevin and Russell and those guys that have been here and have invested so much to be able to communicate with me, and I want to be able to go to them.

“[One thing] I try to do is to get both parties to have ownership. You can sit here and say, ‘Do this, this and this,’ not explain it and say, ‘I’m the coach. It’s my way or the highway,’ and they’re not really bought into it and before you know it you’re never really maximizing what you can do together, so I try to create a situation where there’s accountability for both of us. We’re both on the hook.”

Kanter has been a liability for the Thunder on defense due to his inability to switch out on the Warriors' guards.

Link: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242022/Russell-Westbrook-Recommended-Thunder-Take-Out-Enes-Kanter


Will Pop handle the situation the same way Donovan did, or will players be consigned to Pop's doghouse for having the audacity to speak up?

[objective]

I saw that too.

No way Pop pulls David West. And if it was Kawhi doing the asking, he would get benched for 8 straight minutes as punishment

[SAGirl]

I do think they speak out just that stays between them bc Pop did talk a lot with the big 3 and probably does the same with the big 2. We probably don't see them or are aware bc Spurs avoid making issues out of that.

[DenialTwist]

Pop needs to think about retiring now. He was terrible last year too. Spurs need to bring in a new coach who isn't so stubborn, can actually make adjustments and who isn't so sentimental to the big three. He clearly has some unspoken agreement with the Duncan, Manu and Parker. They had a great run, time for the team to move on. Winning has to take precedence over this sentimental loyalty eventually.

[spursistan]

https://soundcloud.com/the-bill-simmons-podcast/ep-102-nba-conference-finals-with-haralabos-voulgaris

Bob Voulgaris " you would think Pop was Randy wittman in that series" :lol

@ 36:00 starts talking about the Spurs..

[K...]

Hind sight......attack Kanter....with who?

Make better shots? With what playmaker?

The Randy Whitman comment was about the long two shots. We all know why pop went all in on the long two. We don't have 3pt shooters, We don't have a dominant center. We have kawhi and lma.

Their most revealing comment was "I'm mad pop made me lose my bets" boo hoo.

Like most of these "pop should be blamed" articles and podcasts this one too spends half the time qualifying their criticism (coaching is hard, we don't know, they probably couldn't win even if they did the right things).


You pop haters are literally sucking the salt from whatever nut sacks appear saltiest

[polandprzem]

Hind sight......attack Kanter....with who?

Make better shots? With what playmaker?

The Randy Whitman comment was about the long two shots. We all know why pop went all in on the long two. We don't have 3pt shooters, We don't have a dominant center. We have kawhi and lma.

Their most revealing comment was "I'm mad pop made me lose my bets" boo hoo.

Like most of these "pop should be blamed" articles and podcasts this one too spends half the time qualifying their criticism (coaching is hard, we don't know, they probably couldn't win even if they did the right things).


You pop haters are literally sucking the salt from whatever nut sacks appear saltiest

+1

[TheGreatYacht]

You ain't getting a pass for this, crater face :lmao

Getting your shit pushed in, in the 4th quarter by Chokelahoma :lmao

[hater]

Lol

[spursistan]

You ain't getting a pass for this, crater face :lmao

Getting your shit pushed in, in the 4th quarter by Chokelahoma :lmao

dude hasn't lost to a team that went on win the title since 2002 Lakers..always getting punked by flawed coaches/teams or both :lol

[Snaq O'Meal]

Pop is predictable as fuck. Even scrub coaches know when to time their runs when Pop makes his substitutions like clockwork. And they don't have to worry about adjustments since Pop prefers to "pound the rock" right up to elimination games. Once there, Pop will panic with bizzare lineups before quitting in 3rd quarters when the deficit grows too big.

[TheDoctor]

Pop's first words to Donovan after Monday...

:pop: - It's just basketball Billy. Did you know that NASA...

[midnightpulp]

Hopefully he redeems himself this Summer by buddying up with Durant, leading to Durantula's signing with a franchise that will teach him how to win.

All will be forgiven if Poop pulls that off.

[TheGreatYacht]

Pop's first words to Donovan after Monday...

:pop: - It's just basketball Billy. Did you know that NASA...
:lmao

[YGWHI]

Hind sight......attack Kanter....with who?

Make better shots? With what playmaker?

Or he could make his rotations look decent.

Why he sat his best defenders at the same time?

Why he sat Kawhi and LMA at the same time in the 4th quarter?

Why he was too reluctant to call plays in the 4th quarter?

Why he played Tim just micro minutes instead of put him a bit more with Boris/West?

[DMC]

Pop goes the season cause the season goes Pop

[spursistan]

Wish we were back in 2000s when only Phil Jackson/Lakers used to psyche him out and get the better of his teams :lol

Two consecutive seasons we lose to renowned choke artists who get spotted 3-1 series lead the round after they beat us...we go up 2-1 on meltdown-prone, flawed teams and yet we end up unraveling ourselves in large part to his stubborn ass..

[MultiTroll]

Posting this before the game is over, tbh, because it doesn't matter... I'm officially in the camp that this guy mailed it in since 2014...

Some of the lineups he's sending out there, or resting guys fueling runs for the other team is inexcusable, IMO
Could Pop get on as an assistant to Steve Kerr?

[TheGreatYacht]

You ain't getting a pass for this, crater face :lmao

Getting your shit pushed in, in the 4th quarter by Chokelahoma :lmao

[spursistan]

You ain't getting a pass for this, crater face :lmao

Getting your shit pushed in, in the 4th quarter by Chokelahoma :lmao
the next low: getting bounced by Pringles and the Rockets from 3-0 series lead :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

the next low: getting bounced by Pringles and the Rockets from 3-0 series lead :lmao
:pop: The team went soft. The only people who showed up were Kyle and Matty. It's basketball. You know... NASA just discovered 1200 new planets

[spursistan]

738765248706940929

Burke lashing out at his shtick with subtle feminist goods..dat aura is gone :lol

[Kool Bob Love]

:pop: The team went soft. The only people who showed up were Kyle and Matty. It's basketball. You know... NASA just discovered 1200 new planets

TGY holdin it down as usual. :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

TGY holdin it down as usual. :lmao
Completely forgot about bumping this thread :wow

Thanks bruh :tu

[spursistan]

TBH he is going to have to tone down the media-bully shtick because his team has stopped winning like couple years ago and won't likely do again for the foreseeable future..

[baseline bum]

dude hasn't lost to a team that went on win the title since 2002 Lakers..always getting punked by flawed coaches/teams or both :lol

2013 Heat?

[Kikoluna]

:pop: The team went soft. The only people who showed up were Kyle and Matty. It's basketball. You know... NASA just discovered 1200 new planets

I don't know what game you were watching. Kyle 13 minute mile Anderson was atrocious

[Snaq O'Meal]

I don't know what game you were watching. Kyle 13 minute mile Anderson was atrocious

He was being sarcastic.

[therealtruth]

I always wondered who would have won Finals MVP if Pop hadn't screwed up game 6.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/nbarankfinalsrayallen/best-nba-finals-games-ray-allen-rescues-miami-heat

[ceperez]

He's done, 2014 took all the energy from him.

[HarlemHeat37]

It's arguable whether he's "done" or not, but it's clear that you can no longer consider him a clear "mismatch" in the Spurs' favor like you could in the past..

[siraulo23]

if carlisle was coaching '16 spurs, do they get past the thunder?

[MultiTroll]

TBH he is going to have to tone down the media-bully shtick because his team has stopped winning like couple years ago and won't likely do again for the foreseeable future..
You would think so.
But I think in his mind his thinks his 5 gives him a career never ending bully schtick pulpit.
Plus with the Olympics foolishly hiring him....

[MultiTroll]

I always wondered who would have won Finals MVP if Pop hadn't screwed up game 6.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/nbarankfinalsrayallen/best-nba-finals-games-ray-allen-rescues-miami-heat
Duncs hands down with the cherry topper of 30/17 and great D.

[TheGreatYacht]

if carlisle was coaching '16 spurs, do they get past the thunder?
Carlisle would sweep with a roster this loaded :lol

[siraulo23]

Carlisle would sweep with a roster this loaded :lol

[ElNono]

"One of these days, it will be like the middle of the third quarter or something like that, and I’ll see him walking toward the exit. It will be like it just hit him, like, ‘I’m done.’ As soon as he does that, I’ll be 10 steps behind. Because I’m not stupid.” — Popovich on Duncan’s looming retirement.


Welp...

[spursistan]

Bump..

This senile fuck isn't even Top 5 coach in NBA anymore, i can say that confidentlyPERIOD..

His momentum-killing, rest-obsessing, shitty-lineup trotting, game-blowing substitutions is the most disgusting coaching trait of any contenders or fringe contender coach in the league..

When a redhot Kawhi was about to blow open the game by himself at the end of 3rd he pulls him for next 10 minutes resulting a 11-0 run Hornets while he watches by closely not even bothering with a TO..

[sasaint]

Bump..

This senile fuck isn't even Top 5 coach in NBA anymore, i can say that confidentlyPERIOD..

His momentum-killing, rest-obsessing, shitty-lineup trotting, game-blowing substitutions is the most disgusting coaching trait of any contenders or fringe contender coach in the league..

When a redhot Kawhi was about to blow open the game by himself at the end of 3rd he pulls him for next 10 minutes resulting a 11-run Hornets while he watches by closely not even bothering with a TO..

Yep you were watching the same game I was. Pop thinks he could "coach" 5 guys from ST to the playoffs. :wow

[GSH]

Well I posted it in the game thread, so I won't repeat. But that sorry-ass sequence at the end of the game convinced me. Pop always stressed discipline and attention to detail. He doesn't have the fire to deliver those things himself anymore. He should have left with Duncan.

I've argued when people complain about his lineups. But that? That was fucking unforgivable and inattentive. You can't be a great team without paying attention for 48 minutes. He's said so himself too many times.

[spursistan]

Well I posted it in the game thread, so I won't repeat. But that sorry-ass sequence at the end of the game convinced me. Pop always stressed discipline and attention to detail. He doesn't have the fire to deliver those things himself anymore. He should have left with Duncan.

I've argued when people complain about his lineups. But that? That was fucking unforgivable and inattentive. You can't be a great team without paying attention for 48 minutes. He's said so himself too many times.

The Hornets simply self-sabotaged and Danny hit 2 timely threes..Otherwise, that sequence would have lost the game against any other good team. The reg season Mad Scientist bullshit doesn't fly anymore..He did the same ish in the game that ushered out Tim Duncan to his retirement last May..

[SAGirl]

Welp. I am on vacation and checked the spurs app in my phone... Close game and ai didn't watch it but to me the team has problems on defense.

i never lose hope and enthusiasm for my team but they are obviously on defense not what they were last season and its obvious they aren't blowing teams out like last season either. I was surprised that in a ge in which he scored 11 points in 10 minutes on 100% shooting bertans was still a -4 and didn't grab a single board, Simmons is scoreless again. I think the team needs Dedmon obviously...

i can't say I would look this one up online to watch it after the fact...

[GSH]

I was surprised that in a ge in which he scored 11 points in 10 minutes on 100% shooting bertans was still a -4 and didn't grab a single board, Simmons is scoreless again.


You know better than to look to the +/- to decide how a bench player performed. Without him, they lose this game. He made a bitchin' block. Overall, he played well.

Simmons is working hard to pass the ball and get other players shots. He may be over-thinking at times, but he's working on the right things. He had a couple of good assists (one GREAT assist) and a couple of boards in 13 minutes.

BTW - Kawhi had 30 points on 67% shooting, and he was only +7, while Pau was +10. Just say no to the +/-.

[apalisoc_9]

Pop always has this "I want us to win with the perception that I coached this team to win sp he almpst always will bench a guy he thinks is about to go nuclear.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

EDIT: Wrong thread

[TheGreatYacht]

The man knows his politics and called out every hypocrite GOP Christian evangelical.... so clearly he's not done

Fathead got less than a minute of playing time. That itself gives him an A+ grade in my book

[GSH]

The man knows his politics and called out every hypocrite GOP Christian evangelical.... so clearly he's not done


Well you're just so fucking right. As a coach, he makes a great political commentator.


Give that other shit a rest, and stick to hoops, huh?

[SAGirl]

You know better than to look to the +/- to decide how a bench player performed. Without him, they lose this game. He made a bitchin' block. Overall, he played well.

Simmons is working hard to pass the ball and get other players shots. He may be over-thinking at times, but he's working on the right things. He had a couple of good assists (one GREAT assist) and a couple of boards in 13 minutes.

BTW - Kawhi had 30 points on 67% shooting, and he was only +7, while Pau was +10. Just say no to the +/-.
Of course but since I didn't watch it, it's surprising that with him shooting so well (just impossible to retain that rate you know?) They were still losing. I obviously don't know what it was this particular game but it's defense to me... otherwise what was it? And if he was doing so good why didn't he play more? Legit question,you know I don't troll.

[TheGreatYacht]

Well you're just so fucking right. As a coach, he makes a great political commentator.


Give that other shit a rest, and stick to hoops, huh?
I couldn't resist :lol

[UZER]

Pops micro managing just needs to go away already. Props to everything he's done for this franchise, but this oversubstituting has just gotten so old and tired at this point.

Just play that damn game.

[GSH]

Of course but since I didn't watch it, it's surprising that with him shooting so well (just impossible to retain that rate you know?) They were still losing. I obviously don't know what it was this particular game but it's defense to me... otherwise what was it? And if he was doing so good why didn't he play more? Let it question,you know I don't troll.


He played well enough - especially for a guy who was a 3 in Europe, and is now playing the 4. He's turning out to be a damned good rim protector, and he stroked the 3 again tonight.

The reason(s) he was a negative +/- are way too much for a simple answer. But you're asking the wrong question. What you should be asking is who would have made up for the 11 points he scored in the 10 minutes he played. I didn't see anyone else tonight that I think would have done that.

And if you're seriously asking why he didn't play more minutes? I sure as hell don't understand his rotations this year. I don't know anyone else here who does. You'd have to ask him.

[GSH]

I couldn't resist :lol


:lol


Okay. Missed the obvious troll. I'm still so pissed about what he did (didn't do) at the end of the game, I can't see straight.

[sasaint]

Welp. I am on vacation and checked the spurs app in my phone... Close game and ai didn't watch it but to me the team has problems on defense.

i never lose hope and enthusiasm for my team but they are obviously on defense not what they were last season and its obvious they aren't blowing teams out like last season either. I was surprised that in a ge in which he scored 11 points in 10 minutes on 100% shooting bertans was still a -4 and didn't grab a single board, Simmons is scoreless again. I think the team needs Dedmon obviously...

i can't say I would look this one up online to watch it after the fact...

Actually it was a very exciting game, though not great. Certainly not great from Pop. Just to add my 2-cents' worth to what GSH said, I thought Simmons played well. He is trying to corral his natural tendencies and play with greater control within the framework of the offense. He did make one very nice assist, passing up an opportunity to force the layup or dunk that was truly amazing. Before he made that pass I couldn't have imagined him passing up that high-light-reel opportunity. That play alone renews my hope for the guy. On the other hand, Kawhi was good, but not great. His stat line was pretty impressive, and he played well. In truth, if he had made all of his open shots, he would have shot 100%. Not likely, but you get my meaning: he missed a ton of wide open shots. Plus Nic Batum burned him on a Few plays

Frankly, the best Kawhi thus far in his career was the Kawhi of last fall. In expanding his offensive role, Pop clearly sacrificed some on the defensive end. Moreover, I don't think Kawhi is nearly as efficient on offense with the increase in his usage.

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol


Okay. Missed the obvious troll. I'm still so pissed about what he did (didn't do) at the end of the game, I can't see straight.
I get you, bringing in Manu and Kyle for "defensive purposes" was a little too far tbh. I'll take the W though against a team that's playing well :tu

[SAGirl]

He played well enough - especially for a guy who was a 3 in Europe, and is now playing the 4. He's turning out to be a damned good rim protector, and he stroked the 3 again tonight.

The reason(s) he was a negative +/- are way too much for a simple answer. But you're asking the wrong question. What you should be asking is who would have made up for the 11 points he scored in the 10 minutes he played. I didn't see anyone else tonight that I think would have done that.

And if you're seriously asking why he didn't play more minutes? I sure as hell don't understand his rotations this year. I don't know anyone else here who does. You'd have to ask him.
Ok you didn't really answer my question about what happened but I am guessing it was on other guys then, maybe Manu and Mills tonight.

I guess I will wait for someone to do the grades.

[sasaint]

Ok you didn't really answer my question about what happened but I am guessing it was on other guys then, maybe Manu and Mills tonight.

I guess I will wait for someone to do the grades.

It seemed like he played more than that. He had one rough stretch where he made a couple of TOs, but overall he played well. A single game +/- should be ignored. It has too much to do with the other guys who are on the floor at the same time. For example Manu was TURRIBLE - which is to be expected since he was "good Manu" the last game. Pop needs to take away Manu's driving (and passing) privileges and just make the guy a spot-up 3-ball shooter. He would be excellent in that role.

[SAGirl]

Actually it was a very exciting game, though not great. Certainly not great from Pop. Just to add my 2-cents' worth to what GSH (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1519) said, I thought Simmons played well. He is trying to corral his natural tendencies and play with greater control within the framework of the offense. He did make one very nice assist, passing up an opportunity to force the layup or dunk that was truly amazing. Before he made that pass I couldn't have imagined him passing up that high-light-reel opportunity. That play alone renews my hope for the guy. On the other hand, Kawhi was good, but not great. His stat line was pretty impressive, and he played well. In truth, if he had made all of his open shots, he would have shot 100%. Not likely, but you get my meaning: he missed a ton of wide open shots. Plus Nic Batum burned him on a Few plays

Frankly, the best Kawhi thus far in his career was the Kawhi of last fall. In expanding his offensive role, Pop clearly sacrificed some on the defensive end. Moreover, I don't think Kawhi is nearly as efficient on offense with the increase in his usage.
:tu Thanks for sharing that does answer my question. I have a suspicion since preseason and that feeling hasn't completely left me, but it is what it is. Since you were so forthcoming in your input with me I will share my honest concern with you... It's been Pau and LMA together and/or individually, separately. They are poor rim protectors ... on top of that Pop's switching schemes are not helpful to them, but to me defensively the team has had a huge decline bc perimeter defenders to a large degree depend on the guy behind them.

It's been a concern since very early and it hasn't left me completely and thats bad bc they lately have just been winning based on outscoring the opposition at the end and relying on talent. I tend to think the team doesn't have what it takes for a championship bc of their defense. It doesn't even have to do with others, GSW, Clippers or whoever. Maybe the ofdensive burden has affected Kiwi this season but I don't think that's completely it. I will continue to watch that development...

The bench needs Dedmon IMO. It seems Bertans had a coming out party but I am concerned with them defensively too. I don't see Bertans Lee as a good pairing, but I didn't watch this, that's why I am wondering...

[GSH]

Ok you didn't really answer my question about what happened but I am guessing it was on other guys then, maybe Manu and Mills tonight.

I guess I will wait for someone to do the grades.


The guy is a bench player who scored 11 points in 10 minutes, on 100% shooting. So, yeah, I think it's safe to assume that the -4 was mostly "on the other guys".

[SAGirl]

It seemed like he played more than that. He had one rough stretch where he made a couple of TOs, but overall he played well. A single game +/- should be ignored. It has too much to do with the other guys who are on the floor at the same time. For example Manu was TURRIBLE - which is to be expected since he was "good Manu" the last game. Pop needs to take away Manu's driving (and passing) privileges and just make the guy a spot-up 3-ball shooter. He would be excellent in that role.

I have seen what you describe from Manu in other games previously too. He's going to be very inconsistent this season. I'd expect any adjustments post ASB. POP may let him push through his early season struggles then evaluate what they will do.

[sasaint]

:tu Thanks for sharing that does answer my question. I have a suspicion since preseason and that feeling hasn't completely left me, but it is what it is. Since you were so forthcoming in your input with me I will share my honest concern with you... It's been Pau and LMA together and/or individually, separately. They are poor rim protectors ... on top of that Pop's switching schemes are not helpful to them, but to me defensively the team has had a huge decline bc perimeter defenders to a large degree depend on the guy behind them.

It's been a concern since very early and it hasn't left me completely and thats bad bc they lately have just been winning based on outscoring the opposition at the end and relying on talent. I tend to think the team doesn't have what it takes for a championship bc of their defense. It doesn't even have to do with others, GSW, Clippers or whoever. Maybe the ofdensive burden has affected Kiwi this season but I don't think that's completely it. I will continue to watch that development...

The bench needs Dedmon IMO. It seems Bertans had a coming out party but I am concerned with them defensively too. I don't see Bertans Lee as a good pairing, but I didn't watch this, that's why I am wondering...

You and I see eye-to-eye about LMA and Pau. :tu Neither is Lee/Bertans a good defensive pairing. You know that I think the Spurs have blown both of the last two post-seasons, signing "name" bigs instead of "game" bigs. Thus the remainder of Kawhi's current contract is wasted. As I have said - I hope Kawhi is as patient and loyal as DRobinson... It is not just the bench that needs Deadman - but whether Pop acknowledges that I doubt. He refused to acknowledge his poor pairings all last season and post-season.

[GSH]

[QUOTE=SAGirl;8804395]:tu Thanks for sharing that does answer my question. [QUOTE]


You asked about Bertans, and then claim I "didn't answer your question". Then SASaint talks about Simmons (and nothing about Bertans), and that did answer your question? :lol I don't know what your problem with me is, and I don't really give a damn. I'm one of a short list of people here who give you the benefit of a doubt a lot of the time.

I don't know who was on the floor with Bertans for all of his 10 minutes, nor did I try to analyze his play down to that fine of an edge. But his overall play didn't raise any red flags, and his shooting was exceptional. If you're seriously saying, "If he played so damned good, why didn't he get more minutes?", you can take that shit up with Pop. Maybe Pop didn't like the matchups, and thought he wouldn't have done as well with longer minutes?

I suspect the problem is that you've got a case of the red-ass because Anderson got a total of 18 seconds or something like that, and Bertans played well enough to put Kyle's future in question. How's that for answering your question?

[SAGirl]

You and I see eye-to-eye about LMA and Pau. :tu Neither is Lee/Bertans a good defensive pairing. You know that I think the Spurs have blown both of the last two post-seasons, signing "name" bigs instead of "game" bigs. Thus the remainder of Kawhi's current contract is wasted. As I have said - I hope Kawhi is as patient and loyal as DRobinson... It is not just the bench that needs Deadman - but whether Pop acknowledges that I doubt. He refused to acknowledge his poor pairings all last season and post-season.
He said himself in sarcastic jest that he always had Tim. But so many rude truths are said in a funny way, you know that jest?

I have lately become a lot more observant about takes bc it's been very early, and the players and coaching staff are still making adjustments. But that observation about the bigs has been pretty consistent and its only varied bc they have put in a little more effort, but they still look very inadequate at times, not grabbing a board they needed, not moving to contest a shot, etc. It's duly noted that you would have gone with other bigs, or just different FA altogether.

I am terrible as armchair GM. I just don't watch enough of other teams to have good takes on trades or FA targets. It entertains me to see others takes and FA preferences, but I am not good at that myself. Then you add to that that the contract stuff is always confusing. So I mostly just observe what Pop is doing with the guys he did sign in FA and what he had in mind. As of this chat the team is 7th in Opp PPG... and this is a team that controls tempo and plays slow. I just have my concerns on defense... Kiwi has turned up the defensive intensity in the 4th Q and has won some close games with getting timely steals in the 4th but he doesn't have that same intensity the entire game. He could be pacing himself.

[SAGirl]

You asked about Bertans, and then claim I "didn't answer your question". Then SASaint talks about Simmons (and nothing about Bertans), and that did answer your question? :lol I don't know what your problem with me is, and I don't really give a damn. I'm one of a short list of people here who give you the benefit of a doubt a lot of the time.

I don't know who was on the floor with Bertans for all of his 10 minutes, nor did I try to analyze his play down to that fine of an edge. But his overall play didn't raise any red flags, and his shooting was exceptional. If you're seriously saying, "If he played so damned good, why didn't he get more minutes?", you can take that shit up with Pop. Maybe Pop didn't like the matchups, and thought he wouldn't have done as well with longer minutes?

I suspect the problem is that you've got a case of the red-ass because Anderson got a total of 18 seconds or something like that, and Bertans played well enough to put Kyle's future in question. How's that for answering your question?
Chill out GSH. I obviously didn't watch this game so I am wondering bout a lot if things, as you can see from my chat I have asked about several guys. I asked initially about Bertans and I guess you partially answered me, gave me straight up your opinion o Bertans be I appreciated that, though I don't think I said it explicitly, but then I wondered in general what was going on and that's the question you didn't answer, though you said there was a lot with others going on. I guess I wanted more general feedback and opinion.

Nit another Kyle thread pls. He's not a factor in this one and I d rather not go down that road bc there already a ton f threads about him.

[MultiTroll]

Posting this before the game is over, tbh, because it doesn't matter... I'm officially in the camp that this guy mailed it in since 2014...

Some of the lineups he's sending out there, or resting guys fueling runs for the other team is inexcusable, IMO
Is this the thread that MultiModerator merged but also killed the poll? :rollin

Well Pop is proving to still be regular season winning % coach, currently at 12-3. Has he morphed into playoff Marty Shottenheimer? Or a different version/same end result as playoff Mike Dantoni?

Ya just get this feeling like no lead is safe + the wins get racked up vs the scrubbier teams. Opening night vs the Golden Phaggots was great, but lets see how it goes now that Golden has had more time to go shopping and get manicures together with Durant (bonding Warrior style).

I will say Gasol looks much tougher then the 1st 10 games. At least against the Lakers I saw a couple very tough moves by Gasol. Particularly after Randle tried to muscle/intimidate him and Gasol elbowed him right back and scored the hoop while purposely slapping Randle upside the head. Just right, not enough to get the offensive foul call. Maybe Pop gave him a pep talk? I think it was more Gasol returning to the site of his Laker glory days but hey, again maybe Pop gave him a pep talk.

[Solid D]

Tsk tsk... such vitriol.

Plenty of teaching opportunities.

[spursistan]

Fuckin' retire :lmao

[Robz4000]

Fuckin' retire :lmao

[loveforthegame]

It certainly seems like he's making things worse instead of providing answers.

[ElNono]

:pop: "There's a million new planets out there, go get a life"

[dabom]

If I was Kawhi, I'd play even worse for trying to this fake pussy shit on him. Teach Pop a fucking lesson for trying that pussy shit on him. :lol

[UZER]

Pop with the F grade today. Dude needs to retire already.

[YGWHI]

It certainly seems like he's making things worse instead of providing answers.

[gambit1990]

pop, parker, kyle for carlisle + dirk.

[apalisoc_9]

:pop: "There's a million new planets out there, go get a life"

[gambit1990]

does pop even yell at his players anymore? that nigga needs to wake the fuck up.

[Ditty]

Bump

[Floyd Pacquiao]

These road trips to big city's were always an automatic L. Now that pop has retired all cares about is where the best wine and dine places are at.

[Mikeanaro]

Time to step down, put someone who cares at least.

[pgardn]

The man does not care:

For Gasol, who played two seasons in Chicago, and the rest of his San Antonio teammates, that's the type of night the Spurs endured Thursday. Their effort drew the ire of coach Gregg Popovich, who called out some of his underperforming players, saying "guys get a lot of money to be ready to play."
Asked whether it was his job to make sure the Spurs were ready to play, Popovich said, "I don't remember playing tonight. No Knute Rockne speeches. It's your job. If you're a plumber and you don't do your job, you don't get any work. I don't think a plumber needs a pep talk. A doctor botches operations, and he's not a doctor anymore. If you're a basketball player, you come ready. It's called maturity. It's your job."

[spursistan]

:lmao..

The most overrated coach in the league currently..dude living off his pre-2014 reputation..He has completely lost the plot about how to control an NBA game..

[Robz4000]

He needs to be fired. My God he's gone completely senile.

[spursistan]

Sitting Kawhi as he was cooking the fuck out of the Suns and then "No Dedmon" when A train being run on Gasoft = Playoff Pooop..

Fuckin predictable..

Retire POS..

[Vokun]

Duncan ain't here anymore to bail him out. Pop is being exposed without the GOAT PF

[timtonymanu]

Lots of love for Pop, but he even vocalizes that he doesn't care as much about winning anymore, which is fine when you have 5 rings. Keeping Tony and Manu past their prime also shows he's more about loyalty than winning these days.

Give the reigns to Ime so Kawhi's prime isn't wasted with 2nd round exits at best.

[spursistan]

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[james evans]

I've been saying it for a while the Spurs need to part ways with him. He's killing us and he doesn't even give a fuck. He's determined to do shit his way.. The sad thing is that he caoches the the exact same way during the playoffs

[apalisoc_9]

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That wasnt on Pop my man, it was on Manu.

He had the option to pass out to the klaw but opted to pass the ball to Pau..Unsurprisingly, the suns fouled a poor shooter.

[ElNono]

That wasnt on Pop my man, it was on Manu.

He had the option to pass out to the klaw but opted to pass the ball to Pau..Unsurprisingly, the suns fouled a poor shooter.

I'm sure Pop had that shit drawn up, tbh... I would even bet he drew up a Manu stepback tres/airball... game was in Mexico and all...

[YGWHI]

DONE!!

But what I find so weird it's Messina silence. I mean, Ime was Pop's player, was never head-coach, I understand Pop doesn't hear him in these close situations.

But what about Messina?? He was was known for being a guy with a strong personality, why did he become a Pop sucker? He's the guy who should tell Pop about his mistakes.

It seems like he doesn't want to risk his job...He's just wainting for Pop's retirement.

[spursistan]

Yeah, no one has talked about what exactly has Messina brought to Spurs coaching staff table..Was he just an overrated Euro coaching name all along?

His general sideline demeanor gives off the vibes of a Pop yes-man..

[YGWHI]

It seems like ST can't handle two threads criticizing Pop...

They deleted the other one with the tweets of Coack Nick's followers talking about Pop, Manu and Parker.

This forum :lmao

[dabom]

Manu missed the pass to Kawhi. Kawhi was actively looking for the ball. That was on Manu not Pop. :lol

[SAGirl]

It seems like ST can't handle two threads criticizing Pop...

They deleted the other one with the tweets of Coack Nick's followers talking about Pop, Manu and Parker.

This forum :lmao
Wow really?
That was a good thread IMO...

[TheGreatYacht]

It seems like ST can't handle two threads criticizing Pop...

They deleted the other one with the tweets of Coack Nick's followers talking about Pop, Manu and Parker.

This forum :lmao
I got pinked for making a Pop thread in the playoffs

Mods must be Serbian

[dabom]

I got pinked for making a Pop thread in the playoffs

Mods must be Serbian

Biggest parkertard pinked.

An angel looking out for me. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Biggest parkertard pinked.

An angel looking out for me. :lol
Det slurp slurp

[spursistan]

Outcoached by Earl fuckin Watson :lmao

[MultiTroll]

Enjoy the memory of 2014.
Cause their ain't gonna be another one as long as PTripper is still in power.

[MultiTroll]

You wonder what, if any input Timmy Duncs has on this in his Assistant Whatever role.
For that matter when playing.

:cry "It's Pops team" :cry

[TheGreatYacht]

Getting in playoff mode :wow

Those yes men in suits sitting next to him :lmao

[spursistan]

Anyone who still think this guy is even a Top 5 playoff coach in the league :lmao...

His hilarious lack of feel for game's going momentum continues to sink this fukin team from that Clippers series and on....

Warriors 2-0 run : TO
Warriors 12-0 run : Spectator from the best seat in the building

[Mikeanaro]

Lol Parker on Livingston and Thompson, that was like Patty on Durant last season...

[spurraider21]

seriously why didnt pop give curry and gobert more minutes

[TheGreatYacht]

He will live and die by TOSB Manure. Sad!

[ElNono]

He gonna open some wine, dine with Kerr tonight, and have a laugh at this thread, tbh

[peacemaker885]

Pop's the best. The Warriors are just too good.

[TheGreatYacht]

Bump

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Pop's the best. The rest of the league is just too good.

FTFY

[SuperCam]

Poop schtick getting roasted on casual fan sports media this afternoon. just takes 3 upset playoff series losses in a row to happen but the media isn't licking his butthole over his crotchety old man bullshit :lol so no doubt he will double down...

[HarlemHeat37]

Poop schtick getting roasted on casual fan sports media this afternoon. just takes 3 upset playoff series losses in a row to happen but the media isn't licking his butthole over his crotchety old man bullshit :lol so no doubt he will double down...

I'm surprised the national media has finally begun criticizing him, tbh..it took a few minutes:lol

Even a non-hardcore NBA guy like Bomani Jones criticized him following the Memphis game where he sat the starters 2 minutes into the half by trying to make a point in a playoff game..

[peacemaker885]

Check out Pop's interview this morning. Calm, relaxed even funny. I hope its because he has something up his sleeves.

[spursistan]

Poop schtick getting roasted on casual fan sports media this afternoon. just takes 3 upset playoff series losses in a row to happen but the media isn't licking his butthole over his crotchety old man bullshit :lol so no doubt he will double down...
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Damn, the dam has broken..:lol

[ElNono]

smh, now if we lose the series, he's going to have a cop out...

[Robz4000]

He has no business coaching in the NBA anymore.

[timtonymanu]

He has no business coaching in the NBA anymore.

[sasaint]

He has no business coaching in the NBA anymore.

[ElNono]

:pop: "We're gonna play big and lose big. It's just basketball, a game of mistakes"

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRwTQm337hWsAcch8kigyn2d45hxLlKY gkti5ZcIfgAQs8N07QworCFjrg

[ElNono]

:lmao Game, Season on the line and Kawhi on the bench :lmao

[RodNIc91]

Was about to bump this too. What an imbecile

[Silver&Black]

Kawhi must be legit hurt. It's the only possible explanation for him not being on the court at the end of regulation.

BTW...he's not playing in OT either.

[Brazil]

Are we gonna act like it's ok kawhi not waving towels from the bench with teammates tbh ? Parker has always been tagged of being a bad teammate for less than that tbh

[ElNono]

Are we gonna act like it's ok kawhi not waving towels from the bench with teammates tbh ? Parker has always been tagged of being a bad teammate for less than that tbh

tbh

[Brazil]

tbh

Btw sign manu for two more years pls !

[spursistan]

We won in spite of this faggot..Still going Aldridge/Gasol and forcefeeding these two stiffs is fuckin maddening..

[Mikeanaro]

We won in spite of this faggot..Still going Aldridge/Gasol and forcefeeding these two stiffs is fuckin maddening..

[jermaine]

I actually agree...

[Robz4000]

Terrible coaching all playoffs long (outside Game 3). Now they have no choice but to stay big and hope it works with Kawhi out.

[SAGirl]

POP IS DONE....

[Darius Bieber]

Been saying it for a while. Get Rick Carlisle here or Brett Brown or Brad Stevens tbh.

[ElNono]

Heck, Snyder looks hungry

[spursistan]

I know he stopped the 'actual' coaching after 2014, but now it is starting to look as if the players have lowkey tuned him out.

[timtonymanu]

Getting exposed without Duncan, being a locker room distraction with his media whoring, liberal agenda. Too bad his ego won’t make him realize it. He and Drunkford will give Tony another loyalty contract to further dump this team into mediocrity.

[ElNono]

welp

[spursistan]

welp
They say there is a talent for knowing when to get out while the getting is good.

Short of him miraculously getting Lebron this summer, it seems like Pop might have missed that ship, thb..I have a feeling his retirement sendoff will be embarrassing..something like a Bronze medal in Tokyo..

[sasaint]

Getting exposed without Duncan, being a locker room distraction with his media whoring, liberal agenda. Too bad his ego won’t make him realize it. He and Drunkford will give Tony another loyalty contract to further dump this team into mediocrity.

Going to take a genius of a successor to clean up behind PATFO once they do go down the road.

[TheGreatYacht]

Making sure this thread doesn't leave the first page all offseason.

Seriously what do the players do when they hear Crater face come up with the Fatty/Forbes on KD game plan? :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Making sure this thread doesn't leave the first page all offseason.

Seriously what do the players do when they hear Crater face come up with the Fatty/Forbes on KD game plan? :lmao

[TDomination]

Making sure this thread doesn't leave the first page all offseason.

Seriously what do the players do when they hear Crater face come up with the Fatty/Forbes on KD game plan? :lmao

shrug and know that they are only a few days away from vacation! And with our coach, I'm tired of seeing these retarded lineups and would prefer this season to just end.

[ElNono]

Ya, there’s just no joy in him anymore, and it’s not necessarily because Kerr is running a train in him...

At least he played White in the first game, but that might just indicate he gave up for the series entirely, tbh

[tholdren]

We won in spite of this faggot..Still going Aldridge/Gasol and forcefeeding these two stiffs is fuckin maddening..

You must have been absent during the mcdyess and tiago years

[daslicer]

Ya, there’s just no joy in him anymore, and it’s not necessarily because Kerr is running a train in him...

At least he played White in the first game, but that might just indicate he gave up for the series entirely, tbh

I felt when he played White that was a sign he was throwing in the towel early for this series knowing how Pop usually doesn't play rookies until his team is facing elimination.

[ElNono]

I felt when he played White that was a sign he was throwing in the towel early for this series knowing how Pop usually doesn't play rookies until his team is facing elimination.

Yeah, although, to his defense, the previous Spurs teams used to put up a more solid fight regularly

[UZER]

Yeah, although, to his defense, the previous Spurs teams used to put up a more solid fight regularly

And this is why sitting a player, that can bring something to your team, an entire year just because you have a shtick is inexcusable. Imagine if White had gotten real minutes all season long. How much could he have helped against GS?

This non-starting rookies don’t play philosophy for a year is just so damn dumb and tired already. The dude is 23 yo already.

[Raven]

he's been doing the same garbage for a couple years in a row now.. you have the longest athletes of any team, and you decide to go small to match up with the opponent's pace. It has NEVER worked out.

[r0drig0lac]

he's been doing the same garbage for a couple years in a row now.. you have the longest athletes of any team, and you decide to go small to match up with the opponent's pace. It has NEVER worked out.

could work if they were good players (which is not the case)

[spursistan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dax8hjNX4AIHPbp.jpg

[SAGirl]

Not fair. Can't even criticize Forbes in that situation. ^

[TheGreatYacht]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dax8hjNX4AIHPbp.jpg
:lmao

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dax8hjNX4AIHPbp.jpg

This image perfectly represents the Spurs roster build since Kawhi's injury in WCF or when he isn't on the court in general...

[Snaq O'Meal]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dax8hjNX4AIHPbp.jpg

:pop: “Makes me wet every time!”

[HarlemHeat37]

4 consecutive possessions, too:lmao

IIRC, they weren't even forced switches by the Warriors..Pop playing 4D chess..

[tbdog]

Pops not done. He has gotten the most out of this roster. Just not enough offense to combat the league. Have look at our second ppg player. It's gay, off the bench, missing a bunch of time this season. Take AD for example. He gets Cousins for half the season and on top of that has Holiday avg 19ppg. Yet they were one game off from us. Pop did the best as a coach, but as executive and bufford really blew the off season. Just too much dead weight. Taking on Gay when we already had TP coming back from injury. That's two guys needing injury management. Then Leonard injury management happened. Plus Manu and Gasol gets minute restrictions due to age. Plus too many one way players. Forbes, Mills, Paul, Bertans, and to lesser extent Green. Udoh said during pre season that the spurs guards all had different abilities, like they were specialists. Forbes was our shooter. Paul was our defender. Mills was our spark plug. Manu was our vet. Green was out 3 and D guy. Problem is, you can't have that today. You need more complete 2 way players. And some of those guys were not that good our their speciality.

Pops biggest mistake this season, apart from the Leonard fiasco, which no one outside the organisation knows what the hell is going on, was not playing White, who deserved minutes over Forbes and relieve some from Manu, Parker and Mills.

[r0drig0lac]

Pop is the main responsible for the roster, so if he believes a roster consisting of one-dimensional dwarves, slow players and d-leaguers that's all about him, he failed in construction of roster in the last off season, the fact that SA have a good record shows what a good coach he is (or how the league is mediocre) , but the flaws on the roster were there at the beginning of the season and will be there until he decides to change something

[HarlemHeat37]

^^Pop controls the personnel moves..he built a team to play the style he wants, I don't know how anybody can give him a pass for that..

The Spurs were 2-6 without Aldridge and had a bottom-ranked offense without him..there was nothing impressive about Pop's coaching job outside of blindly looking at the Spurs record..

[TheGreatYacht]

Don't let all the pointless Kawhi threads distract you from what a senile POS this guy is

[TheGreatYacht]

Anyone who defends this faggot's rotations tonight shouldn't be taken seriously ever.

Hope him and Forbes have a good fuck tonight and catch AIDS.

[ElNono]

Bump. Was just reading a post of Pop ballwasher trying to spin that the criticism came about after the Big 3 retired...

This thread was started when the Big 3 were still around. Tim would retire a month later.

[ElNono]

Can’t believe it’s going to be 5 years since this thread was made and we’re still talking about this...

Mr “get over yourself” can’t seem to do it himself :lol

[daslicer]

Can’t believe it’s going to be 5 years since this thread was made and we’re still talking about this...

Mr “get over yourself” can’t seem to do it himself :lol

Pop's ego is too big that I think he really is obsessed with proving to people he can win without Duncan. I also believe he's still coaching because with his wife now being deceased his life has no meaning outside of basketball.

[Prime BEEF]

Pop's ego is too big that I think he really is obsessed with proving to people he can win without Duncan. I also believe he's still coaching because with his wife now being deceased his life has no meaning outside of basketball.
Sadly I think this could be true

[BigJoeD]

He’s last man standing from the glory years. Be sad to see him go but I think his time has come.

[RC_Drunkford]

How the fuck can this "genius" coach be losing to rookie college coach??

I still ask myself that question

[Bill Walton Saga]

Any nudes released of your female coach yet?