***Official 2016 NBA Draft Thread***

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

We're gonna get one of: Skal, Davis, Diallo, Jones, Jackson, Murray, Ulis... or a stash like Korkmaz.

[look_at_g_shred]

:lmao

[RD2191]

MVUlis just waiting for RCs call.

[look_at_g_shred]

Gimmie that dude with the f in his name..please I'm begging you RC do it!! I know you are salivating at this moment

[Big Empty]

Prince Ibeh

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Btw, Ben Simmons will be a beast. All-star in 4th season IMO. So freakin smooth.

Sixers need to make quite a few trades to balance their roster, but if they bring in the right vets they should be challenging for 8 seed within two seasons.

[TheCerebral1]

I'm good with Skal all day.

[SAGirl]

Spurs thrilled they didn't have to trade Mills. That Mills-Ulis backcourt going to be lit.
:lol

[Keepin' it real]

That Michigan St. guy any good? Why is he still there? Get him Spurs. Or I'm out ...

[RD2191]

Spurs need to fake a Kawhi injury and tank. Sick of picking next to last every damn year.

[keithington1]

fuuuuuuk good players on the board

[SpursFan86]

Would be thrilled if we manage to get Deyonta Davis

[SAGirl]

Dejountay Murray still available.

[myhc]

Wow. We could get end up with someone decent here.

[Ron Swanson]

Spurs need to fake a Kawhi injury and tank. Sick of picking next to last every damn year.

:pop: We won 67 games last year with this team. Stay the course.

[Captivus]

Zimmerman maybe?

[Spurs9]

Spurs have lots of options left tbqh

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I'm good with Skal all day.

I thought Skal would go about #10 and Maker would fall to 20s, but it's other way around. :lol

Skal must have some serious ??? to plummet like this.

[BatManu20]

Watch us still go Korkmaz or Zizic as a draft-and-stash :lol

[Snaq O'Meal]

Spurs need to fake a Kawhi injury and tank. Sick of picking next to last every damn year.

The option of trading for a higher pick is always there. OKC did it.

[Ditty]

Just pick a freaking American player :lol

[Keepin' it real]

:pop: We won 67 games last year with this team. Stay the course.

That's crazy talk.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Spurs absolutely should trade into early 30s to scoop up some of these value guys.

[InTheCrust]

Per David Aldridge, sixers are taking Furkan Korkmaz. 27 and 28, Skal Labissierre and Deyonta Davis still on the board :wow

[TheCerebral1]

Zimmerman over Davis, is a crime. Jesus, I didn't even realize he's still on the board. WOW!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Watch us still go Korkmaz or Zizic as a draft-and-stash :lol

I think you mean Zubac. ;)

[keithington1]

Should we trade back and get two picks?

[Mnky]

With so many good options... you know Pop is not going to miss a chance to drive spurstalk crazy. Building up hope just to secure the meltdown.

:pop: Don't mock me with an emoji. 5 rings bums.

[TheCerebral1]

Davis probably comes off the board to Toronto or Phoenix. God damnit!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Spurs should take Skal or Davis, trade for early 30s pick to take Jackson or Murray.

[siraulo23]

spurs gonna pick a name never mentioned in this thread

and a commercial break before the spurs pick

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Davis probably comes off the board to Toronto or Phoenix. God damnit!

They both already took bigs so there's hope...

[BatManu20]

Korkmaz gone to Philly

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

With so many good options... you know Pop is not going to miss a chance to drive spurstalk crazy. Building up hope just to secure the meltdown.

:pop: Don't mock me with an emoji. 5 rings bums.

So true. :rollin

[Spurs9]

Everyone taking foreign chances now higher projected picks tanking.

[rastaspur]

Trade 29 for two second rounders

[look_at_g_shred]

spurs gonna pick a name never mentioned in this thread

and a commercial break before the spurs pick
lol

[keithington1]

im nervous

[NASpurs]

Korkmaz gone to Philly

The BatManu20 jinx strikes again :lol

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

No Korkmaz! And a resounding cheer goes up around ST. :lol

[TheCerebral1]

You take the best player available. This is a team that needs to stop avoiding the truth, they need athletes and talent now. Not in 5 years. If it's a stash pick, I'm going to be done watching the rest of the draft.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Davis and Labiss are currently committing suicide in the green room.

[Mnky]

Raptors gotta be celebrating. They were rumored to take skal at 9.

Talk about luck. I doubt they skip him.

[BatManu20]

Cheick Diallo anyone? Spurs have serious connections with Kansas and he's a good D-League stash option

[siraulo23]

if the spurs are going after durant, the spurs need to draft and stash?

[myhc]

spurs gonna pick a name never mentioned in this thread

and a commercial break before the spurs pick

I laughed out loud. Pretty good.

[random21]

:pop: I don't like rookies. Go international and stash that player

[TheCerebral1]

Cheick Diallo anyone? Spurs have serious connections with Kansas and he's a good D-League stash option

If it's Diallo over Deyonta Davis, they need to just stop. Diallo is so raw and he has upside for sure, but god no!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

FO should be rubbing is hands together here. So much value left, and lots of teams with spare 2nd rders they need to move. Moneyball arbitrage opportunity!

[BatManu20]

Malcolm Brogdon is a prototypical Spurs player too but this would be too high imo. But that doesn't stop the Spurs. They'll reach for a guy.

[cd021]

Should we trade back and get two picks?

Trade Mills to the Bucks for 36th and 38th hopefully Zimmerman is still there.

[TheCerebral1]

It shouldn't take this long to make a selection.

[Russ]

Deyonta Davis has most definitely dropped. Most mocks had him about #12.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

So, Jackson and Murray probably slip to second rd. Spurs need to get in on that.

[cd021]

not surprising, its a very bad draft

Not at all. Not much top talent but deep draft. Tons of front court players with potential to be rotation player.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

If we can grab Skal or Davis at 29 it'll be a super-steal.

[SPURt]

Damn! Toronto going full RC on them

[Spurs9]

Spurs have tons of options, Im gonna be mad if they stash anyone. We should try to get a 2nd round pick too.

[RD2191]

Who is the best player available?

[ducks]

Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress · 2m2 minutes ago

3 guys still sitting in the Green room as the first round comes to a close: Skal Labissiere, DeJounte Murray and Deyonta Davis. 3 picks left

[keithington1]

Is this life

[TheCerebral1]

These GM's are idiots.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

We're able to take one of Davis or Skal! Holy crap. Didn't see that coming.

[look_at_g_shred]

We'll still go with a guy no one has mentioned yet.... Xndkfnf jdnsn

[Silver&Black]

:lol Suns get the commercial break

[Russ]

Skal Labissiere, Deyonta Davis, Ivica Zubac, or Dejounte Murray?

[Spurs9]

Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress · 2m2 minutes ago

3 guys still sitting in the Green room as the first round comes to a close: Skal Labissiere, DeJounte Murray and Deyonta Davis. 3 picks left
Any one of these dudes is a steal at 29 :lol

[myhc]

Yea, I'm gonna be fucking pissed if they choose a draft and stash here.

[td4mvp2k]

zubac is dam good to

[SAGirl]

Malcolm Brogdon is a prototypical Spurs player too but this would be too high imo. But that doesn't stop the Spurs. They'll reach for a guy.
Done it before.

[Mnky]

If we can grab Skal or Davis at 29 it'll be a super-steal.

Murray is a 19 yr old pg (combo guard)with 6'11 reach. High turnover rate, but he can learn to reel that in. Also a great athlete.

Man. Spurs will have options.. why is it hard to trust them all of a sudden? :lol

To many memories of being burned by draft and stashes..

[keithington1]

Davis over Skal please

[xellos88330]

Wtf? Commercial on the pick BEFORE the Spurs?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Don't worry Davis. You're coming to SA. ;)

[siraulo23]

oh shit commercial break before the suns pick

finally! lol

[RD2191]

Davis?

[myhc]

:lol Suns get the commercial break

:rollin the god damn Suns. Always the Suns. :rollin

[Keepin' it real]

These GM's are idiots.


Yeah we're the real geniuses lol.

[TheCerebral1]

Murray, Skal or Deyonta Davis, is this seriously happening. Please make this be a year where we take someone to be excited about.

[cd021]

Deyonta Davis has most definitely dropped. Most mocks had him about #12.

Labissiere was projected to go 15th in DX and Draft Net mocks. Maybe the Spurs take a look or Diallo

[tholdren]

Not at all. Not much top talent but deep draft. Tons of front court players with potential to be rotation player.
this draft is shitty. really shitty

[myhc]

oh shit commercial break before the suns pick

finally! lol

:rollin

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Murray is a 19 yr old pg (combo guard)with 6'11 reach. High turnover rate, but he can learn to reel that in. Also a great athlete.

Man. Spurs will have options.. why is it hard to trust them all of a sudden? :lol

To many memories of being burned by draft and stashes..

We should trade for a second rder and take Murray or Jackson.

[Captivus]

This is gonna be CHAOS in about 7 minutes...

[loveforthegame]

Don't fuck this up Spurs. Guys are right there for the taking.

[siraulo23]

Yeah we're the real geniuses lol.

:lol

[Silver&Black]

:rollin the god damn Suns. Always the Suns. :rollin

Regular Season, Playoffs, Summer League, and The Draft.

:lol We stay fucking the Suns.

[BatManu20]

Dejounta Murray could be the pick. Potential Danny Green replacement.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Surely Suns won't take a 3rd big?

[Keepin' it real]

I was hoping the Spurs could draft a big time player who slid unexpectedly on draft night. Christmas early for me!!!

[InTheCrust]

Suns are picking Skal.... DAVIS AVAILABLE

[SAGirl]

Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress · 2m2 minutes ago

3 guys still sitting in the Green room as the first round comes to a close: Skal Labissiere, DeJounte Murray and Deyonta Davis. 3 picks left
Two of them I don't know much about bc I didn't expect them to be available.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

If Spurs aren't licking their lips in glee right now something is very wrong.

[Spurs9]

The spurs select threnon rubicanovixzck from the slavic providence of talikango

[Russ]

This is gonna be CAOS in about 7 minutes...

You mean when they take Petr Cornelie? :lol

[RD2191]

The spurs select threnon rubicanovixzck from the slavic providence of talikango

[BatManu20]

Ivica Zubec will be the pick. Watch :lol

[NASpurs]

That nigga R2D2 wants Ulis, he might be onto something...

[Spurs9]

http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/07/Anxious-gif.gif

[TheCerebral1]

Davis is all wrapped up for the Spurs, now do we see a bullshit pick, or someone everyone is praying for. I'm fine with Murray as well.

[Captivus]

GET READY FOR THE MELTDOWN!!!!!

[Silver&Black]

We on da clock...itshappening.gif

Not going to refresh the page till we draft. One of you fuckers are sure to spoil it...

[SPURt]

It'd be cool to get Murray

[myhc]

If we dont pick the Davis :bang

[td4mvp2k]

Ivica Zubec will be the pick. Watch :lol
would be a good pick tbh

[RD2191]

That nigga R2D2 wants Ulis, he might be onto something...

ROTY imo tbh fwiw

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Brace yourself for draft panel saying "Spurs did it again" if they take Davis.

[keithington1]

Davis or tradeback

[Russ]

I love Murray but the Spurs may pass because he will require time.

Davis looks like a no-brainer.

Either would be great.

Why do I think it will be neither?

[TE]

For all the blown off meltdowns over the years. It'll be truly deserving if the Spurs don't pick Davis. x2 if they draft and stash. Best available pick this late in the 1st round in years.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Suns took 3 PFs. :lmao

[TheCerebral1]

Leaving Davis for the Warriors will make me livid. I know its a lottery ticket type selection, but RC, please take the guy!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Come on Spurs, do the obvious thing for once please.

[loveforthegame]

Good job Spurs. :tu

I know y'all wanted a big but I'm happy with this.

[Spurs9]

Leaving Davis for the Warriors will make me livid. I know its a lottery ticket type selection, but RC, please take the guy!

This :lol

[Mnky]

I love Murray but the Spurs may pass because he will require time.

Davis looks like a no-brainer.

Either would be great.

Why do I think it will be neither?

Davis will need same time. Murray definitely needs to develop, but 19. Has no shot, but amazing size and potential for pg position.

I would like em both. Can we do that?

[Mnky]

Suns took 3 PFs. :lmao

Likely trading skal.

[TE]

Murray is great

[keithington1]

oh shit i guess

[SPURt]

It'd be cool to get Murray
Woot! Woot!

[Mugen]

#AUREVOIRTONY2016

[SAGirl]

I wanted Dejontay Murray

[TheCerebral1]

Murray is fine, it solves some of the back up options and unlike Ulis has size. Now can we trade up to get Zubac or someone with size!

[Mnky]

Oh my goodness.. size.. size size at the pg position. If chip can give this guy a shot, will be a steal!!! Can play behind Conley, and be a manu replacement.

[Spurs9]

Dope suit, bringing that swag to SA :lol

[SAGirl]

I really really hyped him up early.

[siraulo23]

slow af :lol

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Murray. At least not a stash, good pick.

Now we need to get into the second rd and take a young big like Jones or Diallo. I'm guessing Dubs take Davis at 30.

[Mugen]

Was his cousin Prince?

[td4mvp2k]

well they got their pg

[Mnky]

Alright, after seeing those shoes... I'm not sure about this pick anymore.

#WhatAreThose

Just kidding.. sweet story for the kid.

[TheCerebral1]

Diallo is a great second selection if they can trade up. It was really a Murray/Davis selection or riot. This helps supplement a new waive to build around LMA and Kawai.

[elemento]

Fine with the pick tbh

It was hard to see the Spurs passing on Davis though, I won't lie.

[dbestpro]

Expect 2-3 years before this kid is ready for NBA play. Has a lot of work to do on his shot, and being able to finish at the rim. He better get some kleenex cause Pop is gonna give him the same treatment he gave TP.

[HI-FI]

I don't know anything about this nig but I like it.

[siraulo23]

not too bad all things considered, cant wait to see the dude play

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

C'mon Spurs, trade for this Celts pick. We need a young athletic big too.

[Spurs9]

Spurs need to move up in 2nd round...

[Biggems]

I want McCaw.....I wonder if we can get involved in a trade to grab him......a G/F who can play D and score......given some time with Chip and he could be a lethal shooter.

[Captivus]

Spurs need to move up in 2nd round...

Thats impossible

[Biggems]

so is there any room on the bench for Andre Miller and Matt Bonner? btw, I mean on the coaching staff.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Damn - Grizz just grabbed 31 and 35.

[Keepin' it real]

Great. Spurs trying to keep pace with offensive juggernauts like GS and OKC, and they draft a guard who can't shoot. :bang

[mudyez]

but but..."Tatum" doesn't sound jewish!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Spurs should have traded for 31 and 35 dammit.

[td4mvp2k]

Fuuuccckkkk

[TheCerebral1]

Great. Spurs trying to keep pace with offensive juggernauts like GS and OKC, and they draft a guard who can't shoot. :bang

Kawai couldn't shoot a lick in college. Sorry, this is a solution that can be fixed. Murray was an excellent selection.

[td4mvp2k]

:pctoss

[keithington1]

buy a pick RC cola

[Spurs9]

Clippers took my guy :cry

[Mnky]

I don't know anything about this nig but I like it.

Kid is very raw. Has lottery potential though. 19, came out too early. Spurs don't get near him if he stayed another year. Has no shot, but chip can fix that. Can be a shut down defender at the pg spot if he gets motivated. 6'5 with 6'10-11 wingspan. You can tell he's a baby, can easily put on more weight and maybe even size. Good athlete, and can become better with weight room. If Kawhi takes this kid in, and drops that work ethic on him, could really shine. Boom or bust pick, but spurs won't get that chance often.

Can't run a team yet, but could potentially in a couple years. Perfect backup material. He will make both mills and Anderson expendable tho if they get Conley and need to move someone.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

We've got glaring holes in the front court. FO must have a plan we can't see at the moment.

[Keepin' it real]

Kawai couldn't shoot a lick in college. Sorry, this is a solution that can be fixed. Murray was an excellent selection.

I hope you're right!

[Mnky]

Great. Spurs trying to keep pace with offensive juggernauts like GS and OKC, and they draft a guard who can't shoot. :bang

Has the tools to be a poor man's Kawhi at point guard.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Damn. We could have gotten two quality prospects in 2nd rd if we'd traded for those Grizz picks. Ugh.

[Mnky]

We've got glaring holes in the front court. FO must have a plan we can't see at the moment.

Easiest position to upgrade this off season too though.

[Keepin' it real]

We've got glaring holes in the front court. FO must have a plan we can't see at the moment.

Re-sign Bonner.

[TheCerebral1]

Re-sign Bonner.

Bonner shouldn't play another moment on the Spurs. He's gotten steadily worse to the point he needs to retire and become an assistant coach.

[Mnky]

Grizzlies draft two pgs. Conley definitely gone, and mavs are biggest opposition so far. If Conley forces a Parker trade he would be the real M.V.P. tbh :cry

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Easiest position to upgrade this off season too though.

Sounds like they're going to try for Noah or another vet C.

We need someone who can nullify Adams.

[Holden_Caulfield]

good shit a pg

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Strangest drafts so far are Suns taking two PFs in Bender and Chriss, Nuggets taking two SGs to add to Gary Harris.

[Keepin' it real]

good shit a pg

Sacre bleu!

http://cdn1.bloguin.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/27/2015/03/489979219-645x356.jpg

[Holden_Caulfield]

Strangest drafts so far are Suns taking two PFs in Bender and Chriss, Nuggets taking two SGs to add to Gary Harris.
and the kings taking 2 bigs when they have cousins koufos and cauley stein

[K...]

Damn. We could have gotten two quality prospects in 2nd rd if we'd traded for those Grizz picks. Ugh.

we are kind of packed with prospects already,murray, at least two euro's, simmons, kyle. You can't really fit any other players so there's no reall reason to pick a second rounder unless there is a draft stash they like but the draft was heavy on foriegners already so i doubt anyone great is availble.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Celts gonna have to make a lot of trades or stash a lot of players to get their roster down to size.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

and the kings taking 2 bigs when they have cousins koufos and cauley stein

Yup. And taking another SG after they missed on the last two. :lmao

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

we are kind of packed with prospects already,murray, at least two euro's, simmons, kyle. You can't really fit any other players so there's no reall reason to pick a second rounder unless there is a draft stash they like but the draft was heavy on foriegners already so i doubt anyone great is availble.

I doubt they bring over 2 Euros, 1 more likely.

I think we should have drafted a project defensive big as none of the guys we have look like rim protectors.

[HI-FI]

Kid is very raw. Has lottery potential though. 19, came out too early. Spurs don't get near him if he stayed another year. Has no shot, but chip can fix that. Can be a shut down defender at the pg spot if he gets motivated. 6'5 with 6'10-11 wingspan. You can tell he's a baby, can easily put on more weight and maybe even size. Good athlete, and can become better with weight room. If Kawhi takes this kid in, and drops that work ethic on him, could really shine. Boom or bust pick, but spurs won't get that chance often.

Can't run a team yet, but could potentially in a couple years. Perfect backup material. He will make both mills and Anderson expendable tho if they get Conley and need to move someone.
thanks dude. i really like the pick. like you said, boom or bust Spurs don't get that chance too often.

[SAGirl]

Grizzlies draft two pgs. Conley definitely gone, and mavs are biggest opposition so far. If Conley forces a Parker trade he would be the real M.V.P. tbh :cry
I suspect now that we have Dejounte he stays put even more bc Pop will have a guys for him to train. :wow. Getting Dejounte in reality is at least someone to look up to see develop bc Tony wasn't going anywhere.

[Mnky]

I suspect now that we have Dejounte he stays put even more bc Pop will have a guys for him to train. :wow. Getting Dejounte in reality is at least someone to look up to see develop bc Tony wasn't going anywhere.

They already had a backup in mills and Anderson even. Murray doesn't change anything as far as their mindset for chasing Conley, i could see an increase in the likelihood to move tony with more options to run the second unit just the same.

I'd you can't get a good offer for tony, you don't do it but people build up the Tony narrative. They've shopped him in atleast 3 drafts we know of.

[SAGirl]

They already had a backup in mills and Anderson even. Murray doesn't change anything as far as their mindset for chasing Conley, i could see an increase in the likelihood to move tony with more options to run the second unit just the same.

I'd you can't get a good offer for tony, you don't do it but people build up the Tony narrative. They've shopped him in atleast 3 drafts we know of.
Well I am up for your scenario. I am up for the team improving, I am just expecting the usual I guess at this point. How do you suppose they will move on from him?

[Mr. Body]

Winners and Losers?

Hard to tell. But i don't believe in Ben Simmons. Couldn't even lead his tea,m to the NCAA Tournament. Also, the Celtics. We're supposed to make this huge splash and I can't figure out what the fuck they wound up with.

[SAGirl]

Winners and Losers?

Hard to tell. But i don't believe in Ben Simmons. Couldn't even lead his tea,m to the NCAA Tournament. Also, the Celtics. We're supposed to make this huge splash and I can't figure out what the fuck they wound up with.
I am expecting Ingram to be the better player. Simmons will bust hard for a 1st pick.
Celtics turned every possible trade down bc they wanted to fleece other teams and wanted too much. Path of middling team remaining stuck.

[cjw]

I am expecting Ingram to be the better player. Simmons will bust hard for a 1st pick.
Celtics turned every possible trade down bc they wanted to fleece other teams and wanted too much. Path of middling team remaining stuck.

They reached the tipping point where they had too many assets and teams knew they were in a bind and literally didn't have roster spots for everyone. With tons of teams looking to move picks, the Celtics had no negotiating power. They still have tons of cap space but who on earth are they going to grab?

[SAGirl]

They reached the tipping point where they had too many assets and teams knew they were in a bind and literally didn't have roster spots for everyone. With tons of teams looking to move picks, the Celtics had no negotiating power. They still have tons of cap space but who on earth are they going to grab?
I am sure there were moves to be made for those picks. 76ers specially needed to trade a big and Celtics could have gotten their choice of Noel or Okafor. But I bet they wanted to fleece the 76ers for Noel. 76ers are also in a bind by the way, they didn't improve and Simmons will bust harder with all their bugs. He could get devalued quickly. It's not like he was any good winning games in the NCAA. Going to another losing situation spells disaster. Maybe they should have even traded Simmons and tried to get someone to play with the guys they have. I can't see Simmons being better than their other bigs who are already devalued playing in a bad system with bad players aside from them

[Mnky]

Well I am up for your scenario. I am up for the team improving, I am just expecting the usual I guess at this point. How do you suppose they will move on from him?

They will only do it if they believe they can improve, if it's the difference between Durant t or Conley comings I think they do it easily, otherwise they have to have a good deal. As bad as he can be, he has his uses and familiarity. I do think he's having chemistry issues with the team though and it makes it more likely to separate if they truly plan on building around Kawhi.
But if we don't get a big name, plus a Gasol Noah signing they might be comfortable with keeping him one more year.
There are young teams that would take him to help develop. he does have championship experience, which is valuable to an up and coming team. Sixers might have interest,they did t get their trade and are still looking for veteran presence to help the young guys develop.

[Mnky]

I am sure there were moves to be made for those picks. 76ers specially needed to trade a big and Celtics could have gotten their choice of Noel or Okafor. But I bet they wanted to fleece the 76ers for Noel. 76ers are also in a bind by the way, they didn't improve and Simmons will bust harder with all their bugs. He could get devalued quickly. It's not like he was any good winning games in the NCAA. Going to another losing situation spells disaster. Maybe they should have even traded Simmons and tried to get someone to play with the guys they have. I can't see Simmons being better than their other bigs who are already devalued playing in a bad system with bad players aside from them

I think the league called their bluff. They arnt in a position to demand a lot, they NEED to move one of their guys. They tried to be in the control position, but that's not the case. Smart gms know to be patient, they'll have to give in or suffer lockerroom issues with the young guys fighting for minutes. Not how you want to start a new era.

I do think they will play Simmons in different positions. He will get a chance to play the 1 for them, especially with lack of pgs. Not as a consistent pg, but they will test across the board at the wings to see if they can get away with it. He has the ability to be a wing, that's what's so intriguing about him. It will be interesting to see how they use their players. I'm actually interested in watching them this year. Like I said in the other post, a team like that could use some veteran presence.

[SAGirl]

They will only do it if they believe they can improve, if it's the difference between Durant t or Conley comings I think they do it easily, otherwise they have to have a good deal. As bad as he can be, he has his uses and familiarity. I do think he's having chemistry issues with the team though and it makes it more likely to separate if they truly plan on building around Kawhi.
But if we don't get a big name, plus a Gasol Noah signing they might be comfortable with keeping him one more year.
There are young teams that would take him to help develop. he does have championship experience, which is valuable to an up and coming team. Sixers might have interest,they did t get their trade and are still looking for veteran presence to help the young guys develop.
A lot will have to do with Tim and Manu now that you mention chemistry issues. The team is bring over bertans and from RC words maybe more of their stashed players who are young. This team is trending already in a younger direction and if Tim and Manu retire that will definitely establish the identity of this team as a different team. But Tony has said he would do whatever Pop wanted. I still see him in the team.

I think we should address the bigs situation too bc Timmy is really uncertain, even if he returns he could go through the knee soreness again.

[Mr. Body]

I am sure there were moves to be made for those picks. 76ers specially needed to trade a big and Celtics could have gotten their choice of Noel or Okafor. But I bet they wanted to fleece the 76ers for Noel. 76ers are also in a bind by the way, they didn't improve and Simmons will bust harder with all their bugs. He could get devalued quickly. It's not like he was any good winning games in the NCAA. Going to another losing situation spells disaster. Maybe they should have even traded Simmons and tried to get someone to play with the guys they have. I can't see Simmons being better than their other bigs who are already devalued playing in a bad system with bad players aside from them

Plus Okafor is already a complete chucklehead and team chemistry is toxic. They need vets in the worst way.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

From what I've read Celts would have traded #3 for Okafor but 76ers said no. They offered Noel, Covington, #24 and #26 and Celts said no.

As for Simmons, it'll take him a while, but I think he'll be an AS by the end of his rookie contract. Kid is so smooth. Franchise player potential.