Manu for $14 million

[Beaverfuzz]

Marc SteinVerified account
‏@ESPNSteinLine
The Spurs and Manu Ginobili are discussing a one-year deal in the $10 million range, according to league sources


https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/753650048211095552



Not even worth half of that.

[TheGreatYacht]

Overpaid as fuck

[Beaverfuzz]

Thanks for taking one for the team Manu....just hit up Men's Wearhouse as you'll need a few suits to be an assistant coach in the NBA.

[TheGreatYacht]

Not even worth half of that.

[SpursFan86]

$5 million is what, just under 6% of the cap? Manu is definitely worth half of $10 million :lol

I mean yeah, $10 million might be slightly overpaying him considering he likely won't be as good as he was last year, but it's still not a terrible contract given the current market. Besides, they're using his bird rights to go over the cap to sign him.

[From Downtown]

He deserves that like Timmy deserves 6 millions even if he won'T play
They gave up so much money when they were in their prime for the better of the team, and that's how the Spurs work

[Solid D]

$10M is Iman Shumpert money.

[mbass]

He deserves that like Timmy deserves 6 millions even if he won'T play
They gave up so much money when they were in their prime for the better of the team, and that's how the Spurs work

Agreed 100% - both Tim and Manu have given so much and sacrificed more than most players. Now, ask Parker to give up something - "fat" chance.

[TheGreatYacht]

I mean yeah $10 million probably slightly overpaying him considering he likely won't be as good as he was last year
Manu Ginobili 2016 playoffs:
6.7ppg, 2.7rpg, 2.5apg, 42.6FG%

Oh, man.... If Manu won't be as good as THAT.....
:lol Spurs

[Beaverfuzz]

$10M is Iman Shumpert money.

Yep, or hell a few rookies who want to break into the NBA. Just because this salary cap jumped doesn't mean everyone should be paid more...that's a moronic excuse.

You want to reward Manu? "Give" him 1% ownership of the team.

[Beaverfuzz]

He deserves that like Timmy deserves 6 millions even if he won'T play
They gave up so much money when they were in their prime for the better of the team, and that's how the Spurs work

But now you suck on the teet to drain as much out as you can?

[TheGreatYacht]

Agreed 100% - both Tim and Manu have given so much and sacrificed more than most players. Now, ask Parker to give up something - "fat" chance.
Yeah, Manure sacrificed so much....

Spurs were paying him $14,000,000 in 2013 when he blew the finals for the team. Some say he's still turning the ball over in Miami.

[Solid D]

Manu carried a 17.9 Player Efficiency last season. He can still play and lead a team that needs additional leadership with Timmy retired.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Agreed 100% - both Tim and Manu have given so much and sacrificed more than most players. Now, ask Parker to give up something - "fat" chance.

Parker took a very team-friendly contract before this one so that the team could keep the Big 3 together. The team took care of him with this contract just like they are taking Manu and just like they waived Tim so that he could be paid the $6 million. Just the Spurs taking care of their players.

[bklynspursfan]

Good for Manu. He's always been a great teammate and player for us.

[JR3]

I'm good with this. Welcome to the new cap and he has sacrificed in the past. He will be a great guy to have around and can still be effective

[Darkwaters]

I seem to remember Bruce Bowen getting a nice farewell contract after he was well past his prime as well.

[urunobili]

Slightly overpaid but it's a lockeroom leader/mentor value contract. I think 8M would have been the balanced to keep some of the haters hush in here. But because it got into 7 digits they'll go apeshit...

[Beaverfuzz]

lol, new cap. Just because the cap is increased doesn't mean player's contracts automatically increase. Absolute stupidity.

[peacemaker885]

Worth every cent. Looking forward to seeing Manu play. Manuuuuu!!!

[littlecoyotecoin]

He deserves that like Timmy deserves 6 millions even if he won'T play
They gave up so much money when they were in their prime for the better of the team, and that's how the Spurs work
It's quite pathetic that this has to even be explained to people. If he is slightly overpaid this year, who cares. Glad he came back so that we don't have a brain drain all in one season.

[Ditty]

Does it even matter what Manu gets paid because we are over the cap ? :lol

[Chinook]

Again, I'd love this a lot more if it were a $20M/2 deal with that second season being non-guaranteed.

[Fireball]

the medal of loyalty has two sides ...

[elemento]

Too much but since it didn't affect other FA signings I really don't care. Manu deserved every penny he got from San Antonio.

Congrats Nono btw :lol

[dbreiden83080]

If they want to give it to him. Take it. Offseason moves are basically done anyway.

[toki9]

I think Manu's contribution will be bigger in the locker room and behind the scenes than on the court this year. And he'll be needed.

[ElNono]

This is the biggest discount we could give the organization, tbh, considering they're family...

We're just going to have to make do with only 3 chauffeurs to take the kids to school, but we'll adjust.

You're all welcome, btw...

[Poolboy5623]

Holy shit. Let the guy walk and go play for Denver-

[Solid D]

http://www.faskemusic.com/uploads/1/2/3/8/12387959/6084393.jpg

TheGreatYacht personality hard at work grinding that axe with his buds.

[SpursFan86]

Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong (I'm admittedly not extremely knowledgeable on these matters), but the amount Manu signs for has practically no effect on the Spurs' ability to go out and get other guys. They're already out of cap space regardless of what Manu signs for. I don't see why people would get so upset over this unless they're secretly paying Manu's salary or something.

[Spurtacular]

"Give" him 1% ownership of the team.

I don't know if that's allowed in the CBA. I think the owners saw a slippery slope when what's his name did that for Magic.

[Chinook]

Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong (I'm admittedly not extremely knowledgeable on these matters), but the amount Manu signs for has practically no effect on the Spurs' ability to go out and get other guys. They're already out of cap space regardless of what Manu signs for. I don't see why people would get so upset over this unless they're secretly paying Manu's salary or something.

Mostly correct. Once the salary went past $5.5 Million or so, it didn't matter. But below that was a big deal. Between $2.9 Million and $5.5 Million mean the Spurs had a bit of extra cap space. $2.9 Million or less meant the Spurs have a butt-ton of cap space.

[ceperez]

I think Manu's contribution will be bigger in the locker room and behind the scenes than on the court this year. And he'll be needed.

He's the Spurs best playing coach. Duncan and Boris are both gone remember!

[cd98]

Eh...they are using up their cap space to sign everyone else and then signing Manu using Bird rights to go over cap. Sure they'll take a cap hit, but this isn't stopping them from adding another major player. No big deal.

[DAF86]

I just don't get this new cap situation, tbh. :lol

[ceperez]

Eh...they are using up their cap space to sign everyone else and then signing Manu using Bird rights to go over cap. Sure they'll take a cap hit, but this isn't stopping them from adding another major player. No big deal.

Boban didn't have bird rights?

I guess not... that was a dumb deal that Spurs staff spend so much effort training Boban only to have no rights to retain him.

[bic50]

Damn :lol

[Oh, Gee!!]

call it interest on an overdue loan

[I. Hustle]

Boban didn't have bird rights?

I guess not... that was a dumb deal that Spurs staff spend so much effort training Boban only to have no rights to retain him.

As much as I liked Boban, I am glad he is gone. He isn't going to last long. You can tell that his body isn't going to hold up. He was a fun garbage time novelty act but I would much rather have someone that can move and doesn't look like it hurts them to run the court.

[south side spur]

With Duncan leaving Ginobili will be the de facto leader. This contract is pricey if we're just looking at on court contributions but considering his role in the locker room it's fine. 2013 Finals were a disaster but he's recovered from that.

I think we all have a distorted view of reality because of how much Duncan sacrificed but it speaks more to the greatness of Duncan rather than the perceived "greed" of Ginobili. This year his role will be the most important of his career with Duncan gone. Sure they could've gone through that PR nightmare like the Heat with Wade but why? The Spurs are still in contention.

[Old School 44]

Even if it isn't a loyalty payment. Worth every penny.

[TXstbobcat]

I'm glad Manu is back. I wouldn't want to see the Spurs lose both Tim and Manu in the same offseason.

[Oh, Gee!!]

How many of you calling him overpaid would have branded him a traitor for going elsewhere to get paid his market value when he was in his prime? He sacrificed money and his health to help win 4 rings.

[Chillen]

Manu is worth $10 mil a year easily. Glad he's coming back, Ginobili and Parker will now have to assume a huge leadership, teaching role as the vets.

[Dre_7]

Good for him! He has sacrificed for his entire career, he deserves everything he gets. Just like Tony and Timmy. Best big three of all time. ALL of them took pay cuts throughout their careers.

[Proxy]

lol, new cap. Just because the cap is increased doesn't mean player's contracts automatically increase. Absolute stupidity.

it's a loyalty check. kinda moronic to not see that, kinda moronic to think he doesn't deserve it

[SpursforSix]

How many of you calling him overpaid would have branded him a traitor for going elsewhere to get paid his market value when he was in his prime? He sacrificed money and his health to help win 4 rings.

I get this argument. In fact, I used to support it. But after thinking about it, no team really owes its players that do that. They are giving up $ so they can get a ring. A lot of $. But if the ring wasn't important to them, they wouldn't do it. I'm not sure that they're owed anything other than respect.

We all have to make these choices. Take a job for more money or maybe stay in a better work environment. But most people at the end of their careers don't expect a pay bump just because they did turn down bigger money elsewhere.

[Mel_13]

http://www.faskemusic.com/uploads/1/2/3/8/12387959/6084393.jpg

TheGreatYacht personality hard at work grinding that axe with his buds.

:lol

[spurs1990]

What would you backseat GMs use the extra $5m or so that Ginobili took to have made a dent in the GSW conference title prospects in 2017?

[TheGreatYacht]

Parker only earns 3-4M more than this dude when TP is clearly twice as talented? Smh MVParker always taking discounts for the team. Spurs better pay him back with a loyalty contract once his current one expires.

[Keepin' it real]

Parker took a very team-friendly contract before this one so that the team could keep the Big 3 together. The team took care of him with this contract just like they are taking Manu and just like they waived Tim so that he could be paid the $6 million. Just the Spurs taking care of their players.

B-b-but that shouldn't apply to Parker because ... well, because we just don't like him.

-- Spurstalk lunatics

[cjw]

It literally doesn't matter whether he made $7, $10 or $15 million as long as he was making more than his cap hold. Didn't impact ability to sign free agents.

Give me Manu and Dedmon 10x out of 10 over matching Boban.

[Beaverfuzz]

I think Manu's contribution will be bigger in the locker room and behind the scenes than on the court this year. And he'll be needed.

Sounds like an assistant coach to me.

[Beaverfuzz]

I don't know if that's allowed in the CBA. I think the owners saw a slippery slope when what's his name did that for Magic.

Offer at a discount, with some considerations. Once he's retired, he's not bound to that CBA anymore.

[Beaverfuzz]

How many of you calling him overpaid would have branded him a traitor for going elsewhere to get paid his market value when he was in his prime? He sacrificed money and his health to help win 4 rings.

Not a traitor, that would have been smart negotiating by his agent. Your worth is really what someone ELSE will pay you.

[kobyz]

Manu Ginobili 2016 playoffs:
6.7ppg, 2.7rpg, 2.5apg, 42.6FG%

Oh, man.... If Manu won't be as good as THAT.....
:lol Spurs
Those numbers don't even describe how much demege he made, teams taking advantage on his game, not a playoff team type player anymore!

[Beaverfuzz]

What would you backseat GMs use the extra $5m or so that Ginobili took to have made a dent in the GSW conference title prospects in 2017?

I'm sure there's quite a few players who'd play for $5m that are the same position as Ginobili. They're out there.

[TheGreatYacht]

B-b-but that shouldn't apply to Parker because ... well, because we just don't like him.

-- Spurstalk lunatics
Keepin' it real just keepin' it real, tbh.

That ST double standard


Those numbers don't even describe how much demege he made, teams taking advantage on his game, not a playoff team type player anymore!
Waiters and Rivers are licking their chops right now.

[Phenomanul]

Manu is worth $10 mil a year easily. Glad he's coming back, Ginobili and Parker will now have to assume a huge leadership, teaching role as the vets.

It's pretty bad that fans of other teams "get it" and ungrateful so-called Spurs fans don't.

[Capt Bringdown]

LOL Pop and his thank-you contracts.

[spurraider21]

They're thanking him for taking peanuts leading up to this tbh

[Crazymaddopeyo]

Yeah, Manure sacrificed so much....

Spurs were paying him $14,000,000 in 2013 when he blew the finals for the team. Some say he's still turning the ball over in Miami.


How the fuck are you a Spurs fan? Seriously go bandwagon a team, I know it's in you.

[Oh, Gee!!]

But most people at the end of their careers don't expect a pay bump just because they did turn down bigger money elsewhere. He turned down bigger money again this year, I heard.

[Canyonero]

Manu once again taking a pay cut. Such a GOAT player :worthy::worthy::worthy:

[K...]

To be fair, parkers contract takes up consequential cap space, whereas Manu isn't. So not apples to apples

[Pocho La Pantera]

He´s worth a lot more, he was offered like 19 million from Denver or whatever

[Capt Bringdown]

Some say he's still turning the ball over in Miami.

That's a great zinger.

[Kikoluna]

They are giving him a well deserved thank you or farewell retirement money. He earned it. Long live 2005. Kyle getting over a million is what is truly despicable.

[Texas_Ranger]

this offseason is shit

[TheGreatYacht]

That's a great zinger.
appreciate it :toast

[poeticism707]

Worth every cent. Looking forward to seeing Manu play. Manuuuuu!!!

This.

10m is nothing in the new cap..

[kobyz]

Manu fans really are the worst, so selfish and lack dignity!

[benefactor]

Manu fans really are the worst, so selfish and lack dignity!
...because threatening to take your own life is such a dignified act.

[ElNono]

...because threatening to take your own life is such a dignified act.

:lol

[SAGirl]

Again, I'd love this a lot more if it were a $20M/2 deal with that second season being non-guaranteed.
What is your reasoning here?
IMO Manu is on borrowed time. He had a good season but so did Tim in 2015. At his age he might fall off a cliff with a musculoskeletal injury of some type and go the Timmy route. He was already due 3 mill if he retired like Tim so this is Manu for 7 mill this season. He's fine in this market. But as the years pile on, frankly who knows?

[raybies]

14 mill for manu!?!?

[bklynspursfan]

One year, 14 million

[NASpurs]

753706963557507072

[TheGreatYacht]

Manure fans bitching about Parker's 14M only to defend their boy making the same $$$ :lmao

What a selfish POS

[dabom]

:lol












Get yo money manu. I don't consider this a discount by the way. :lmao

[tmtcsc]

In a related move, the Spurs have deducted 9 million dollars from Tony Parker's pay....just because.

[TheGreatYacht]

I don't know if y'all knew this....

but last time Manu earned $14,000,000 he turned the ball over 8 times in Game 6 of the 2013 finals. He couldn't have picked $13,999,999 or something??? :lol

[dabom]

Tony Porker was making 16mil when the cap was 66 mil.

Manu making 10 when its 95 or something. Huge difference. And Tony is more washed up than Manu at this point.

[dabom]

I don't know if y'all knew this....

but last time Manu earned $14,000,000 he turned the ball over 8 times in Game 6 of the 2013 finals. He couldn't have picked $13,999,999 or something??? :lol

So you're saying we win the chip next year? :lobt2:

Thanks Manu. :toast

[SAGirl]

Wow $14 mill...... I do think Manu was about to pull a Wade TBH and really leave wherever. :downspin:

[Chinook]

What is your reasoning here?
IMO Manu is on borrowed time. He had a good season but so did Tim in 2015. At his age he might fall off a cliff with a musculoskeletal injury of some type and go the Timmy route. He was already due 3 mill if he retired like Tim so this is Manu for 7 mill this season. He's fine in this market. But as the years pile on, frankly who knows?

He'd've been a good trade piece during the draft next June. But of course, he gets $14M/1

[FuzzyLumpkins]

lol, new cap. Just because the cap is increased doesn't mean player's contracts automatically increase. Absolute stupidity.

Given that there is a price floor you couldn't be more wrong. They gave away $113m for nothing last year because they didn't pay up to 90% of the cap. They are getting something for theeir money this time around.

[siraulo23]

Any mods wanna edit the thread title? :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

So you're saying we win the chip next year? :lobt2:

Thanks Manu. :toast
Uh, we lost the ship that year. Wtf are you talking about.

That was the same year Kawhi had 'the face'... Show it to him @KoolBobLove

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Reminds me when they gave AJ $7m back in 2000.

[From Downtown]

I don't know if y'all knew this....

but last time Manu earned $14,000,000 he turned the ball over 8 times in Game 6 of the 2013 finals. He couldn't have picked $13,999,999 or something??? :lol

He wants to change the trend :toast

[dabom]

Uh, we lost the ship that year. Wtf are you talking about.

That was the same year Kawhi had 'the face'... Show it to him @KoolBobLove

I meant to say the 2nd season. :lol

[loveforthegame]

GTFO. You've got to be kidding me? :vomit:

[TheGreatYacht]

I meant to say the 2nd season. :lol
Oh okay :lol maybe you're right, since this most likely means Manure is out after this year

Thank god

He wants to change the trend :toast
Are you saying it'll be 9 turnovers this time? :wow

[BatManu20]

$14M?

Get your money Manu. This is definitely the last ride.

[From Downtown]

Oh okay :lol maybe you're right, since this most likely means Manure is out after this year

Thank god

Are you saying it'll be 9 turnovers this time? :wow

:lol

[Mouth is Bleeding]

TheCapDoesNotTakeAHit!TheCapDoesNotTakeAHit!TheCap DoesNotTakeAHit!TheCapDoesNotTakeAHit!TheCapDoesNo tTakeAHit!TheCapDoesNotTakeAHit!TheCapDoesNotTakeA Hit!TheCapDoesNotTakeAHit!


It was always going to be upwards to 15 million. It was the right thing to do and almost the only thing to do.

[SAGirl]

$14M?

Get your money Manu. This is definitely the last ride.
Has to be. Seems excessive even in this market.

[turkish spurs fan]

he deserves much

[Mouth is Bleeding]

753711169467129856

[From Downtown]

Has to be. Seems excessive even in this market.

I'm sure it is, that's probably why he decided to play in the Olympics too

[r0drig0lac]

fair, he's Manu Ginobili

[ElNono]

I don't know if y'all knew this....

but last time Manu earned $14,000,000 he turned the ball over 8 times in Game 6 of the 2013 finals. He couldn't have picked $13,999,999 or something??? :lol

I think he made $14.5M then, tbh... big difference...

[TheGreatYacht]

Pau's 15M, TP's 14M, Manure's 14M.... We better hope their quests for gold end quickly at the Olympics :lol

[ElNono]

I'm supposed to get a cut too, tbh... plus taxes, fees, etc... round it up to $14m...

[timtonymanu]

Congrats Manu.

[purist]

some people will never get Spurs "culture."

[Obstructed_View]

Geef det men hees maaaneeey!

[TheGreatYacht]

Congrats Manu.
^ one of the faggots bitching about Parker's 14M for the past 2 years, lol.

[timtonymanu]

^ one of the faggots bitching about Parker's 14M for the past 2 years, lol.

Not surprised your faggot ass is bitching about the 2nd best Spur of the Big 3.

[TheGreatYacht]

Not surprised your faggot ass is bitching about the 2nd best Spur of the Big 3.
Not bitching about MVParker, tbh

[ElNono]

^ one of the faggots bitching about Parker's 14M for the past 2 years, lol.

Why not? This $14m for one year isn't holding up the Spurs from acquiring talent... unlike other deals.

[dabom]

Not bitching about MVParker, tbh
You just implied Tony is numero 3. :lmao

[313]

Pau's 15M, TP's 14M, Manure's 14M.... We better hope their quests for gold end quickly at the Olympics :lol
:lmao PATFO

[Obstructed_View]

^ one of the faggots bitching about Parker's 14M for the past 2 years, lol.

One influences the salary cap, one does not.

[HI-FI]

This is the biggest discount we could give the organization, tbh, considering they're family...

We're just going to have to make do with only 3 chauffeurs to take the kids to school, but we'll adjust.

You're all welcome, btw...
:lol
classhole

[TheGreatYacht]

Why not? This $14m for one year isn't holding up the Spurs from acquiring talent... unlike other deals.
He cost us Boban, tbh :depressed

:lmao PATFO
Today's signings :lol

[ElNono]

:lmao :lmao :lmao haters that thought he was going to sign for the minimum

[Budkin]

TheCapDoesNotTakeAHit!TheCapDoesNotTakeAHit!TheCap DoesNotTakeAHit!TheCapDoesNotTakeAHit!TheCapDoesNo tTakeAHit!TheCapDoesNotTakeAHit!TheCapDoesNotTakeA Hit!TheCapDoesNotTakeAHit!

[Obstructed_View]

:lmao :lmao :lmao haters that thought he was going to sign for the minimum

But as Hillary says: What difference does it make? Manu's deal didn't cost the Spurs any players, and it didn't make any difference in the way anything happened. If Manu had signed with someone else, Boban would still be gone and the Spurs would have one roster spot and 2 million bucks to spend.

[Diego20]

Why not? This $14m for one year isn't holding up the Spurs from acquiring talent... unlike other deals.

This.

[NASpurs]

753719995843112961

[jhfenton]

753719995843112961

So pretty much what a few of us thought. The Sixers made the most sense.

[dabom]

Brett Brown throwing that monopoly money. :lmao

[Richie]

Why would anyone care? For cap purposes he's getting paid $5.5 million, that's it. Give him $30m for all I care, it's not my money and it makes no difference whatsoever for the team.

[loveforthegame]

:lol

philly could have had him.

[Beaverfuzz]

:lol

philly could have had him.


Manu wouldn't have lasted more than 20-30 games with that mash unit.

[TheGreatYacht]

Manu made the Spurs match their offer or he was gone :lol

:cry so loyal :cry

[dabom]

Spurs max extended Porker when he was declining in 2014. :lmao

[From Downtown]

Wow, that Woj report said Philly had 16-17 million offer. SA initially offered 3, to try to keep Boban. Manu was listening but SA got to 14.

Paul Garcia on Twitter

[Richie]

If $14m is triple then its fair to say we offered around $4.5m, still makes no difference to the cap. Makes no sense not to match and frankly it'd be a travesty if we didn't since a) it still makes no difference to acquiring talent and b) Manu has consistently taken cap friendly deals, loyalty goes both ways.

[ElNono]

Yeah, $3m discount for the family... :cry warrior :cry

[313]

Today's signings :lol
:lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Boban rolling in his grave right now....

753721265349730304

[313]

Wow, that Woj report said Philly had 16-17 million offer. SA initially offered 3, to try to keep Boban. Manu was listening but SA got to 14.

Paul Garcia on Twitter:lol fuck Philly

[ElNono]

Today's Sixers :lol

[Budkin]

:lmao Sixers

[TheGreatYacht]

:lmao Spurs for matching

[dabom]

And we couldn't unload Tony? His stock must be very very low. :lmao

[noles1983]

fuck manu tbh, want more money go rot in fucking philly. paying tosb manu 14 million, only for him to go play for his shitty country when he is 54 years old. can't wait until him and porker are gone. can't fucking wait.

[spursistan]

next year Spurstalk threads between the Porky and Manu tards :lmao:corn:

[Obstructed_View]

next year Spurstalk threads between the Porky an Manu tards :lmao:corn:

Yeah, my ignore list is going to double in size.

[All Mighty Janitor]

I just don't get this new cap situation, tbh. :lol
The salary cap went from 70 mil to 94mil. That's about a 34% increase so you need to adjust for that. Also, the cap is going to have a larger increase than usual again next year, although not as much as this year, so muti-year contracts are going to be on the high side to adjust for that. I find that when you use a 34% increase as a baseline it helps you get a grasp of the numbers. Even still though, some of the money being throw around is ridiculous. People get over payed every off season but not like this. Because there is so much money out there teams are being forced to overpay for the guys they want(unless your the lakers). It won't be like this when the cap situation stabilizes.

[Barfunk]

Hell yea Manu, get that money. Fuck the Manu haters. Manu haters didn't do shit to help win 4 chips. While Manu was busy getting it done on the big stages, Ginobili haters were busy beating their meat.

[Obstructed_View]

So the cap goes up 24 million dollars, and the Spurs think they can a)Hold up everything to try to make a pitch to Durant, b)Sign Pau Gasol as a backup plan for a 10 million dollar discount, c)Match a bloated offer for a backup center who they never trusted to play in any big games or serious minutes, and d)Oh-by-the-way throw a minimum offer to their team leader and expect him to just take it "for the good of the team".

That, my friends, is optimism.

[TheGreatYacht]

next year Spurstalk threads between the Porky and Manu tards :lmao:corn:
I can't make threads bro, shit, can't even check my notifications :lol

[spursistan]

if Manu gets injured or catch Zika in Brazil :lmao :lmao

[spursistan]

I can't make threads bro, shit, can't even check my notifications :lol
you better get unpinked for the start o next season..plenty of fodder, plenty :lol..

[DPG21920]

If $14m is triple then its fair to say we offered around $4.5m, still makes no difference to the cap. Makes no sense not to match and frankly it'd be a travesty if we didn't since a) it still makes no difference to acquiring talent and b) Manu has consistently taken cap friendly deals, loyalty goes both ways.

Woj said SA's first offer was 3M. That would have definitely made an impact to the cap. To think that is realistic is another thing and in the end, once SA decided they were keeping Manu it stopped mattering like you said.

[dabom]

I can't make threads bro, shit, can't even check my notifications :lol
:lol

[Kikoluna]

Did many get 14 million for one year? Or 10 Million?

[TheGreatYacht]

you better get unpinked for the start o next season..plenty of fodder, plenty :lol..
Tough being a Parker fan in a Manure forum :wakeup

[dabom]

all the mods are parker stans though..

[spursistan]

Tough being a Parker fan in a Manure forum :wakeup
who the fuck is moderating here, hasnt been 2 months now since they canned you :lol?

[kxs783kms]

Did many get 14 million for one year? Or 10 Million?

14

[ismael-robert]

May not affect cap but how we looking in terms of having to pay luxury tax?

[GSH]

If it doesn't affect signing other players, I don't care what they pay him. It's Holt money.

It does sort of put a dent in the idea that Manu took less money to help the team. Turns out, he took an IOU to help the team. Can't really have it both ways. Lucky for him, the IOU came due in a year when the cap went way up, and teams are spending like drunken sailors. I'm happy for him and his family, but I'm a little less in awe of what he did last year.

[TheGreatYacht]

who the fuck is moderating here, hasnt been 2 months now since they canned you :lol?
Yeah it was after G2 vs OKC :lol

Thread title: "Can Poop out coach anyone?"

[DPG21920]

If it doesn't affect signing other players, I don't care what they pay him. It's Holt money.

It does sort of put a dent in the idea that Manu took less money to help the team. Turns out, he took an IOU to help the team. Can't really have it both ways. Lucky for him, the IOU came due in a year when the cap went way up, and teams are spending like drunken sailors. I'm happy for him and his family, but I'm a little less in awe of what he did last year.

I feel like I'm sometimes contrarian with you :lol but I feel the opposite. I'm more in awe of what Manu did last year now. If there was no wink-wink 2 year deal agreement (which we now know) then he took a major discount to compete without the promise of being taken care of.

He wanted to win, thought LMA was worth taking a discount for. This year, with KD saying no, he felt that the team could not reasonably get much better by him taking less so he cashed in. But that was a huge risk for him last year because if he had a career ending injury, he took a lot less with no guarantee of being paid this year.

[From Downtown]

...and it's not just last year
Each one of the big 3 gave up money to stay competitive and give the team and themselves of course a chance to win

[Johnsyounger]

If you don't think Manu did us a solid last year your a moron tbh....

[peacemaker885]

Manu may also have agreed to a lower amount but Spurs organization may have insisted on a higher one. We will never know. All I know is that we have the best FO and the best players. Manu deserves this. This is not Miami.

[DPG21920]

Manu may also have agreed to a lower amount but Spurs organization may have insisted on a higher one. We will never know. All I know is that we have the best FO and the best players. Manu deserves this. This is not Miami.

Well, with Woj reporting that SA offered Manu 3M & the fact Manu's agent said they were seriously considering looking for market value, I find that to be highly unlikely :lol

[EIC]

He deserves that like Timmy deserves 6 millions even if he won'T play
They gave up so much money when they were in their prime for the better of the team, and that's how the Spurs work

True, but you lose the benefit of under paying them in their prime for the better of the team by overpaying them when they are washed up. If you were going to overpay them on the backend to the team's detriment, you might as well have just paid them what they were worth in their prime and be done with it.

[Johnsyounger]

True, but you lose the benefit of under paying them in their prime for the better of the team by overpaying them when they are washed up. If you were going to overpay them on the backend to the team's detriment, you might as well have just paid them what they were worth in their prime and be done with it.
This is great except for the salary cap thingy....

[tholdren]

$10M is Iman Shumpert money.
or danny green money

[Mel_13]

or danny green money

OK, I laughed.

[EIC]

This is great except for the salary cap thingy....

The salary cap is still in effect. Overpaying Manu (and, for that matter, TP) is hurting us on the cap. See Boban, Diaw.

My point is that "taking less for the better of the team" is only noble so long as the player does it in perpetuity. It loses its luster if, instead of being content with less for the better of the team, the player is only "content with less . . . for now."

[Mel_13]

The salary cap is still in effect. Overpaying Manu (and, for that matter, TP) is hurting us on the cap. See Boban, Diaw.

My point is that "taking less for the better of the team" is only noble so long as the player does it in perpetuity. It loses its luster if, instead of being content with less for the better of the team, the player is only "content with less . . . for now."

Manu counted for 5.5M against a 94M cap. The salary over 5.5M did not affect cap space this summer.

[td4mvp2k]

wish they would of payed him 10 more mil just to make the fools like OP even more mad :lol

[EIC]

Manu counted for 5.5M against a 94M cap. The salary over 5.5M did not affect cap space this summer.

Please explain this to me. Not a rhetorical question; I am genuinely interested in understanding how a $10M salary only counts as $5.5M on the cap. If it is true that anything over $5.5M does not count against the cap, then by all means pay the man.

[brucebowensghost]

:bobowelcome back gino. he drives sales w jerseys n attendance which doesnt include concessions n down business sales at bars n rest..etc

[brucebowensghost]

we r just sad/mad cuz it wasnt timmy

[GSH]

I feel like I'm sometimes contrarian with you :lol but I feel the opposite. I'm more in awe of what Manu did last year now. If there was no wink-wink 2 year deal agreement (which we now know) then he took a major discount to compete without the promise of being taken care of.

He wanted to win, thought LMA was worth taking a discount for. This year, with KD saying no, he felt that the team could not reasonably get much better by him taking less so he cashed in. But that was a huge risk for him last year because if he had a career ending injury, he took a lot less with no guarantee of being paid this year.


Yeah, you are a contrary bastard, aren't you? :lol Nah, I'm kidding. You always have good reasons, and I appreciate the different perspective every time.

Yeah, I guess if he didn't feel pretty sure they were going to pay him later, then he just took a leap of faith to help the team. The whole story about what all they supposedly thought was going to happen this offseason sounds a little fishy. And I'm a little surprised that they thought Manu was going to come back for $3M. I figured he was going to get paid more to make up for last year, but not that much more.

Anyway, good for Manu for getting paid. And good for the Spurs for not letting him end his career somewhere else. And if there was a wink-wink deal, good for all of them for coming up with a good cover story.



Manu counted for 5.5M against a 94M cap. The salary over 5.5M did not affect cap space this summer.

Well Manu definitely deserved at least $5.5M, even by last year's standards. And, yes, he deserved to be paid for taking less last year. So it didn't affect FA signings. Congrats, and welcome back Manu!

[Mel_13]

Please explain this to me. Not a rhetorical question; I am genuinely interested in understanding how a $10M salary only counts as $5.5M on the cap. If it is true that anything over $5.5M does not count against the cap, then by all means pay the man.

The details are here:

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q14

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q38

In short, teams must account for their own free agents for the purpose of determining available cap space (see the first link). That 'cap hold' is calculated based on their prior salary and status. The Spurs had full Bird Rights on Manu. Bird Rights allow a team to sign a player to any amount up to the maximum salary.

His cap hold of 5.5M was determined by the formula in the second link. Manu was a Bird's Rights FA, coming off a year in which he was paid less than the average salary. Therefore, his cap hold was 190% of last year's 2.8M+ salary.

[DPG21920]

Yeah, you are a contrary bastard, aren't you? :lol Nah, I'm kidding. You always have good reasons, and I appreciate the different perspective every time.

Yeah, I guess if he didn't feel pretty sure they were going to pay him later, then he just took a leap of faith to help the team. The whole story about what all they supposedly thought was going to happen this offseason sounds a little fishy. And I'm a little surprised that they thought Manu was going to come back for $3M. I figured he was going to get paid more to make up for last year, but not that much more.

Anyway, good for Manu for getting paid. And good for the Spurs for not letting him end his career somewhere else. And if there was a wink-wink deal, good for all of them for coming up with a good cover story.




Well Manu definitely deserved at least $5.5M, even by last year's standards. And, yes, he deserved to be paid for taking less last year. So it didn't affect FA signings. Congrats, and welcome back Manu!

:lmao

[Sean Cagney]

:bobowelcome back gino. he drives sales w jerseys n attendance which doesnt include concessions n down business sales at bars n rest..etc

Most forget this is a business and that stuff right there counts. That is money in their pockets.

[DPG21920]

Please explain this to me. Not a rhetorical question; I am genuinely interested in understanding how a $10M salary only counts as $5.5M on the cap. If it is true that anything over $5.5M does not count against the cap, then by all means pay the man.

Also, to go along with Mel's great explanation (also, save the links he gave you, that CBA FAQ is the basketball holy grail), Manu's money all counts against the cap - it just doesn't count until AFTER SA has used the cap space (with Manu's cap hold) to sign other FA's.

The 14M cost 14M, but when determining the cap space SA had to sign other FA's, the 5M cap hold was all that counted if that makes sense.

[baseline bum]

I'm glad to see Manu get that contract after taking paycuts most of his career. He definitely deserves to be paid this season.

[HarlemHeat37]

Even ignoring the fact that it doesn't mean anything significant to the Spurs' cap situation, Ginobili is definitely worth 10 mil per season under the new CBA, tbh..that looks like a pretty standard number for a key bench contributor, nowadays, let alone a guy that still ranks very highly in virtually all per-minute metrics..

[Crazymaddopeyo]

http://www.libertyballers.com/2016/7/14/12195332/nba-free-agency-sixers-reportedly-offered-manu-ginobili-lots-of-money

Apparently He was offered 30million for 2 years by the 76ers. He definitely took less for us.

[TheGreatYacht]

http://www.libertyballers.com/2016/7/14/12195332/nba-free-agency-sixers-reportedly-offered-manu-ginobili-lots-of-money

Apparently He was offered 30million for 2 years by the 76ers. He definitely took less for us.
The second year had non-guaranteed money.

[ElNono]

The second year had non-guaranteed money.

The first year did... that would have guaranteed Ginobili in the first year between $16-17 million.

Basically, he gave us a hometown discount, and he's clearly underpaid, tbh...

Thank you Gino

[TheGreatYacht]

The first year did... that would have guaranteed Ginobili in the first year between $16-17 million.

Basically, he gave us a hometown discount, and he's clearly underpaid, tbh...

Thank you Gino
He cost us Boban.

Held the Spurs hostage saying he's leaving, :cry so loyal :cry

[ElNono]

He cost us Boban.

Held the Spurs hostage saying he's leaving, :cry so loyal :cry

underpaidPERIOD

[TheGreatYacht]

underpaidPERIOD
If he's underpaid, Parker is underpaid :)

BOOKMARKED

[RD2191]

Is it 10 or 14?

[ElNono]

Is it 10 or 14?

14 Rob... PM me, I got your cut here...

[TheGreatYacht]

Is it 10 or 14?
14M. Same salary as when 6 happened

[ElNono]

If he's underpaid, Parker is underpaid :)

BOOKMARKED

I wouldn't mind Tony on a $20m deal, if it's only a one year deal.

[RD2191]

14 Rob... PM me, I got your cut here...

Muh nigga, you the real MVP.

[HarlemHeat37]

Whether you like it or not, the Spurs are still relying on Ginobili to be the anchor of the bench, tbh..unless Kyle Anderson has a huge leap, Manu is the #1 guy in the 2nd unit, which makes his salary understandable, even ignoring the other factors..

For comparison's sake among teams that have a bench anchor(or several):

Crabbe- 18 mil
Al Jefferson- 10 mil
Jamal Crawford- 14 mil
Tyler Johnson- 12 mil
Austin Rivers- 12 mil
Evan Turner- 17.5 mil
Will Barton- 3.5 mil pre-cap boom
Iguodala- 12 mil pre-cap boom
Greg Monroe- 17 mil pre-cap boom
Rubio?- 14 mil pre-cap boom
Eric Gordon- 13 mil
Jeff Green- 15 mil
Bledsoe or Knight- 14 mil pre-cap boom

[spursistan]

I think Manu would have pulled a Wade had PATFO legit lowballed him to the end with anything under 10 millions..

We spurfans easily forget the business side of this..Dude still has 3 kids he wants to secure the future; he might buy the wifey an expensive gift as a thankyou for her support and sacrifices during the entirety of his career..so, yeah 3-5 million $ wasn't going to cut it and i wouldn't blame him.. it isn't like he had Joe Johnson bank account + the exploding cap helped in that regard....

[TheGreatYacht]

Peter Holt saw this coming and retired, tbh.

[Drom John]

No one is talking about the éléphant in the room.
$14M is Tony Parker money.

[RD2191]

No one is talking about the éléphant in the room.
$14M is Tony Parker money.

It's funny because he's fat.

[GSH]

No one is talking about the éléphant in the room.
$14M is Tony Parker money.


Well the statement is true. I'm not sure whether you think that's good or bad, or why. I do know that comparing contracts signed this year to any signed before is a lost cause. Nothing makes sense.

[gilmor]

I'm supposed to get a cut too, tbh... plus taxes, fees, etc... round it up to $14m...

Haha.. U should get 20M.. in indian rupees

[ElNono]

Haha.. U should get 20M.. in indian rupees

You've been telling me he's gonna retire for two seasons now... I guess next season you might finally be right :lol

[Hoops Czar]

No one is talking about the éléphant in the room.
$14M is Tony Parker money.

Bargain in today's market. Or would you rather pay 5 years $153M for Conley?

[Kawhitstorm]

Peter Holt saw this coming and retired, tbh.

:toast

[ElNono]

Peter Holt saw this coming and retired, tbh.

tbh, how much money would you ask for if you had to make fathead look like an NBA player?

[TheGreatYacht]

tbh, how much money would you ask for if you had to make fathead look like an NBA player?
I'd retire on that spot. That task can ruin my legacy

[SuperCam]

He cost us Boban.

Held the Spurs hostage saying he's leaving, :cry so loyal :cry


14 million for Manure, smh. That's almost as many turnovers as he had in the 2013 finals

[GSH]

14 million for Manure, smh. That's almost as many turnovers as he had in the 2013 finals


Is that better or worse than 3 TO's in the Super Bowl? I'm not sure what the conversion rate is these days.

[TheGreatYacht]

14 million for Manure, smh. That's almost as many turnovers as he had in the 2013 finals
Not only was that the same amount he got in 2013, but he was also coming off of a long offseason playing in Olympics too :lol

The fans at Oracle better be ready to catch some terrible bullet passes tbh

[024]

Don't care about Manu getting paid. Spurs are over the cap so it doesn't matter how much Manu makes. Only wished Duncan could have gotten paid too.

[itsamanuthree]

HE IS MANU GINOBILI

[Budkin]

It's funny because he's fat.

[cd98]

This is a rebuild year, so his one year contract is no big deal. Would you rather have one of those non stars at 14 million for the next three to four years? Nope and neither do the Spurs. This is a year to see what your bench has and be good enough to see if Spurs can lure a big star next season that's worth the big bucks.

[cutewizard]

says here it was 14 M

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/7/14/12195670/manu-ginobilis-deal-with-the-spurs-is-for-one-year-14-million

[EIC]

The details are here:

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q14

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q38

In short, teams must account for their own free agents for the purpose of determining available cap space (see the first link). That 'cap hold' is calculated based on their prior salary and status. The Spurs had full Bird Rights on Manu. Bird Rights allow a team to sign a player to any amount up to the maximum salary.

His cap hold of 5.5M was determined by the formula in the second link. Manu was a Bird's Rights FA, coming off a year in which he was paid less than the average salary. Therefore, his cap hold was 190% of last year's 2.8M+ salary.


Also, to go along with Mel's great explanation (also, save the links he gave you, that CBA FAQ is the basketball holy grail), Manu's money all counts against the cap - it just doesn't count until AFTER SA has used the cap space (with Manu's cap hold) to sign other FA's.

The 14M cost 14M, but when determining the cap space SA had to sign other FA's, the 5M cap hold was all that counted if that makes sense.

Much appreciated, gents. That website is great, Mel. Thanks for sharing those!

[Hoops Czar]

This is a rebuild year, so his one year contract is no big deal. Would you rather have one of those non stars at 14 million for the next three to four years? Nope and neither do the Spurs. This is a year to see what your bench has and be good enough to see if Spurs can lure a big star next season that's worth the big bucks.

LMA didn't sign up to be part of a rebuilding project. Gasol didn't leave Chicago so he can spend a year rebuilding in San Antonio. If that's what you think, think again.

[FkLA]

Whether you like it or not, the Spurs are still relying on Ginobili to be the anchor of the bench, tbh..unless Kyle Anderson has a huge leap, Manu is the #1 guy in the 2nd unit, which makes his salary understandable, even ignoring the other factors..

For comparison's sake among teams that have a bench anchor(or several):

Crabbe- 18 mil
Al Jefferson- 10 mil
Jamal Crawford- 14 mil
Tyler Johnson- 12 mil
Austin Rivers- 12 mil
Evan Turner- 17.5 mil
Will Barton- 3.5 mil pre-cap boom
Iguodala- 12 mil pre-cap boom
Greg Monroe- 17 mil pre-cap boom
Rubio?- 14 mil pre-cap boom
Eric Gordon- 13 mil
Jeff Green- 15 mil
Bledsoe or Knight- 14 mil pre-cap boom

Haven't really been keeping up with FA so I had to google Auscrub Rivers' contract. Nigga got 3 yrs/$35 mill. :lmao

Doc has no shame.

[Yuixafun]

This is a rebuild year, so his one year contract is no big deal. Would you rather have one of those non stars at 14 million for the next three to four years? Nope and neither do the Spurs. This is a year to see what your bench has and be good enough to see if Spurs can lure a big star next season that's worth the big bucks.

This.

Also Manu will be invaluable as a mentor, especially with so many new guards... in the the New Guard.
The way Manu sees the game, his passion.
If he can plant those seeds in the minds and hearts of our young players, all the better.

Murray won't get to play with Duncan. But with Manu as a Yoda, Murray's skills will have a guiding light.
Even Anderson and Simmons still will lean heavily on Manu's experience.
It would be too much shock to loose Timmy and Manu at the same time.
That'd be like tearing your ACL and MCL simultaneously.

Don't forget Manu is also a star, albeit one in his twilight, he still gets fans excited, generates revenue.

People are tripping.
He made 2.9 million last year. Now 14. so... 17/2 = 8.5 for 2 years, not so outrageous.
But besides all of that..
Especially with the Wade Fiasco in Miami.

It shows players... just what sort of character the Spurs Franchise is about. They took care of their pillars, Timmy and now Manu.
That just adds to the respect other FA will have for SA when considering it as a destination.
There will be trust.

[cd98]

LMA didn't sign up to be part of a rebuilding project. Gasol didn't leave Chicago so he can spend a year rebuilding in San Antonio. If that's what you think, think again.

Theyll be competitive, but with that bench, they aren't going to win it all. I think they may struggle to win 50 games. We'll see, but this season I expect a finish around 3 or 4 seed in the west and a second round exit.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Manu Ginobili 2016 playoffs:
6.7ppg, 2.7rpg, 2.5apg, 42.6FG%

Oh, man.... If Manu won't be as good as THAT.....
:lol Spurs

You need to shut the fuck up... you've always hated Manu so SHUT THE FUCK UP. Manu has given up so much money in the past (like TD) so the Spurs could keep the big 3 together and add quality around

PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP - I'M FUCKING TIRED OF YOUR BULLSHIT

You are no real Spurs' fan

[td4mvp2k]

You need to shut the fuck up... you've always hated Manu so SHUT THE FUCK UP. Manu has given up so much money in the past (like TD) so the Spurs could keep the big 3 together and add quality around

PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP - I'M FUCKING TIRED OF YOUR BULLSHIT

You are no real Spurs' fan

:worthy:

[BD24]

Thought this was a joke/troll thread when I read the title.

It appears I was wrong :depressed

[ElNono]

Thought this was a joke/troll thread when I read the title.

It appears I was wrong :depressed

Just in case you're near the cliff... it was actually $14m... please step forward...

[BD24]

Just in case you're near the cliff... it was actually $14m... please step forward...
Oh well, didn't have great expectations this year anyway.
Will be nice to see some of the young guys start to develop hopefully and maybe Kawhi take another step forward.

[cjw]

This is how you pay your all timers. A contract that is totally meaningless from a cap perspective or likely a tax perspective.

Paid for 14 years of being underpaid.

In the 5% chance he comes back beyond this year, Spurs could sign him to a lesser deal then if space is needed.

[Solid D]

He cost us Boban.

Held the Spurs hostage saying he's leaving, :cry so loyal :cry

:rollin

http://www.wolfandiron.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Man-grinding-axe-vintage.jpg

[spurs1990]

Aldridge didn't know Durant would sign with GS either. I think that has huge reverberations for at least the next two seasons.

Not saying they are invincible but let's face it we're counting on health issues anyway to see them lose a series out West.

Furthermore I legitimately believe this is Ginobili's last ride, which is why we are hearing 'thank you contract' bandied about.

Now that Duncan is officially out, the front office is more likely to treat the rest of the players on a per season basis, meaning it will be how useful will you be for us going forward, not let's hang on to this guy for sentiment sake.

My prediction is Ginobili is done in 2017. Parker finishes his two years and he is gonzo in 2018, ie finishes his career in another uniform.

Now he could produce at an alarmingly effective rate which would negate the FO from cutting the cord...but how likely is that...tbh.

2019 playoffs Leonard will be 28 and approaching the height of his power. The Spurs simply need to attract another beast level force for that season and he, Kawhi, and LMA can take the franchise on its 6th championship Riverwalk parade.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Good for Manu, he deserves it and it doesn't matter for cap reasons. Should have got more tbh.

Not sure why they couldn't do a 2nd fully non guaranteed year.

[Mnky]

Theyll be competitive, but with that bench, they aren't going to win it all. I think they may struggle to win 50 games. We'll see, but this season I expect a finish around 3 or 4 seed in the west and a second round exit.

You honestly believe there are 3 other team's better than the spurs? Warriors are obvious favorites, but still Depends on chemistry and how long that takes. Their bench is nothing compared to what it was. Clippers are older and have both star players coming off of Injuries and have never really had a consistent Bench. Spurs starting 5 is better. Thunder lost a top 5 player and a very good rotational big in ibaka. He's a starter, but it kills their rotation. No-one that caliber will be coming off their bench.

Who is going to outplay the spurs with three legitimate all stars? Like pau or not, he has always been a beast on the offensive end and consistent defensively even if people make up bad defense narratives. Almost ALL bigs are at a disadvantage away from basket. Couple might be able to make a play here and there. Kawhi will be better, lma wil be better now that he knows the system. Danny will be Better, he got his confidence back in the playoffs. Parker hopefully won't be as fat.

Spurs are looking good in the west. They upgraded their bigs across the board besides back up pf, which Anderson is likely to play. Mills will be healthier. Manu says he's healthier than he has been in couple years.
Really no reason to believe a big drop off is coming in the form of "rebuilding."

They are contending.

[Mel_13]

Good for Manu, he deserves it and it doesn't matter for cap reasons. Should have got more tbh.

Not sure why they couldn't do a 2nd fully non guaranteed year.

Players with full Bird Rights on a one year contract, like Manu, can't be traded without their consent. He would lose that protection by adding a second year.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Players with full Bird Rights on a one year contract, like Manu, can't be traded without their consent. He would lose that protection by adding a second year.

True, but surely there's enough trust between him and PATFO for this not to matter.

[playbonner15]

Nice fuck-you-Spurs gesture by Brett for offering Manu 14M :lol

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/753706963557507072

[Mel_13]

True, but surely there's enough trust between him and PATFO for this not to matter.

Well, either the Spurs didn't ask for a 2nd non guaranteed year, or they did and Manu said no. I can't come up with a good reason why they wouldn't have asked, but there is one logical reason for Manu to refuse if they did. We'll never know.

[playbonner15]

Correct link: https://sports.yahoo.com/video/76ers-force-spurs-pay-manu-222719167.html

[kobyz]

I don't know if y'all knew this....

but last time Manu earned $14,000,000 he turned the ball over 8 times in Game 6 of the 2013 finals. He couldn't have picked $13,999,999 or something??? :lol

Not only that, all that season he was crap, like he didn't demand from himself the best, wasn't committed enough to the team like he used to, like he had everything else in mind but winning with the team, until it was too late and he costs us and Timmy the most exciting title ever that we will grief about it forever...

[Spurtacular]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-manu-ginobili-returning-to-spurs-222318210.html

Manu signing for $14 mil, not $10 mil.

[spurraider21]

Jimmer signed for 0

[davidbowie]

gahhhdamn

[Mal]

Good for Manu, well deserved money. It doesnt matter at all for Spurs` cap situation. Holt will probably pay some taxes for that.

[Spurtacular]

Jimmer signed for 0

#SaveChumpDumper

[illusioNtEk]

Manu always got low balled by the Spurs.... he deserves this.

[hater]

Hispanic heritage contract

[Harry Callahan]

Manu and TP paid about the same for this year. With MG, the bench has a chance to be effective. A lot of young guys will have to produce......

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Good for Manu, well deserved money. It doesnt matter at all for Spurs` cap situation. Holt will probably pay some taxes for that.

They're well under the tax. At least $3-4 mil.

[Mal]

They're well under the tax. At least $3-4 mil.

So Manu will earn money, and Spurs won`t pay any fines. Why would anybody have something against that ? Jelous over other guy earnings ?

[dabom]

No one is talking about the éléphant in the room.
$14M is Tony Parker money.


It's funny because he's fat.

:lmao

[Solid D]

Nice ***^-you-Spurs gesture by Brett for offering Manu 14M :lol

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/753706963557507072

The Colangelos.

[NameLess Scrub]

Seems like the Spurs don't have many more moves left to make and can pay Manu for the years of "cheap" service.

Next year his contract is off and he can retire.

[Russo21]

Good on him. That's a pretty sweet total to add to the pension fund.

[TDomination]

I have no problem with this. Lets hope he stays healthy all year and helps the young guys develop.

[John B]

Spurs is a class organization giving tribute to Manu for what he has meant to the organization, unlike teams like the Heat who would choose to lose the organization's All-time greatest player on Wade just to save measly dollars and showing ungratefulness for the guy's sacrifices in the past to get them championships. Holt and his managements are truly well above the rest of the organizations. :flag:

[Pocho La Pantera]

Loyalty and sacrifice pays.