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FuzzyLumpkins
07-28-2016, 08:51 PM
You cant participate in the process without bearing responsibility for the continuation of said process. This country is full of party liners on both sides. We dont need more of them.

It's a vote not a commitment. I think people that column vote are idiots myself that doesn't mean boycott the whole damn thing. That is the entire strategy of one of the parties after all to keep turnout down and not participating certainly doesn't change anything.

FuzzyLumpkins
07-28-2016, 08:53 PM
I hear you. I thought Obama's was pretty good, but it was mostly about himself.

WTF are you talking about? It was mostly bashing Trump and comparing Hillary to him. The opening of the speech he outlined her qualifications.

Splits
07-28-2016, 08:58 PM
758839860777984000

:lol

DMX7
07-28-2016, 09:07 PM
Bill looks like he is going to cry. He looked like he was going to have a stroke too, hope he's ok!

Reck
07-28-2016, 09:14 PM
Chelsea is low energy.

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2016, 09:19 PM
Chelsea is low energy.
Would you hit it?

Reck
07-28-2016, 09:21 PM
Would you hit it?

Odd question.

DMX7
07-28-2016, 09:21 PM
I'm preparing myself to cry and they won't be tears of joy.

TheGreatYacht
07-28-2016, 09:25 PM
Bryan Cranston & Morgan Freeman.... DNC = st:lolcked

Reck
07-28-2016, 09:28 PM
All in white. :lol

TheGreatYacht
07-28-2016, 09:30 PM
'Murica

DMX7
07-28-2016, 09:31 PM
Bryan Cranston & Morgan Freeman.... DNC = st:lolcked

:yield

DNC has been running up the score in star power, that, I can tell you.

TheGreatYacht
07-28-2016, 09:36 PM
Hillary starting strong

TheGreatYacht
07-28-2016, 09:37 PM
:yield

DNC has been running up the score in star power, that, I can tell you.
:bobo

DMX7
07-28-2016, 09:41 PM
758286077400580096

:lol

Spurminator
07-28-2016, 09:41 PM
In 45 years in politics, how has she still not mastered vocal inflection variety during her speeches?

Will Hunting
07-28-2016, 09:43 PM
In 45 years in politics, how has she still not mastered vocal inflection variety during her speeches?
It's remarkable because you just know she's probably been coached on it by the best teachers money can buy in that department, yet she still fucks it up :lol

ducks
07-28-2016, 09:43 PM
Hillary starting strong

Trying to unit sanders people

Reck
07-28-2016, 09:44 PM
758286077400580096

:lol

http://www.snopes.com/flags-banned-at-dnc/

:lmao

Will Hunting
07-28-2016, 09:44 PM
758286077400580096

:lol
Cmon Don, this convention is offering up much better material than that

Reck
07-28-2016, 09:45 PM
In 45 years in politics, how has she still not mastered vocal inflection variety during her speeches?

Between boos and cheers its hard.

Boos usually go longer than cheers so you have to know when to key in. You either have to let it pass or force through it.

ducks
07-28-2016, 09:47 PM
http://m.imgur.com/HMXNKoN?r

DMX7
07-28-2016, 09:47 PM
Katy Perry!

Reck
07-28-2016, 09:48 PM
http://m.imgur.com/HMXNKoN?r

LOL masterplan

Dirk Oneanddoneski
07-28-2016, 09:48 PM
Haven't seen many, but this DNC is one of the strongest I've ever seen

Should be half the audience is getting paid to be there

hH9uawr79qU

Chinook
07-28-2016, 09:50 PM
She really does seem fake.

Reck
07-28-2016, 09:52 PM
Should be half the audience is getting paid to be there

hH9uawr79qU

If the craigslist ad is real, then 700 people ain't shit. :lol

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2016, 09:54 PM
Odd question.
Odd dodge. Yes or no?

Reck
07-28-2016, 09:54 PM
She really does seem fake.

She needs to think about Bill nailing Lewinsky so she can shed a few tears.

Hillary is a robot.

Reck
07-28-2016, 09:55 PM
Odd dodge. Yes or no?

Fuck do you want to know if I would fuck someone I dont know in a hypothetical manner. You're retarded.

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2016, 09:57 PM
If the craigslist ad is real, then 700 people ain't shit. :lol
And $50 doesn't meet the proposed hourly federal min wage :lol

absolutely pathetic they silenced their own party

Will Hunting
07-28-2016, 09:57 PM
Odd dodge. Yes or no?
Yes for me, without a doubt.

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2016, 09:58 PM
Fuck do you want to know if I would fuck someone I dont know in a hypothetical manner. You're retarded.
You've been on the Internet for all these years and have never once seen a would you hit it?

Would you hit it?

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2016, 10:00 PM
Yes for me, without a doubt.

*shutters

Her or Michelle O?

Reck
07-28-2016, 10:00 PM
You've been on the Internet for all these years and have never once seen a would you hit it?

Would you hit it?

I'll play your little game. Yes, so?

Will Hunting
07-28-2016, 10:01 PM
*shutters

Her or Michelle O?
Her, not even close.

Will Hunting
07-28-2016, 10:03 PM
I'm sorry but Hillary all the sudden being vehemently against Citizens United is pretty strange, she benefits from it more than any other candidate from either party.

Nbadan
07-28-2016, 10:03 PM
Bring on the banker prosecutions.....

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2016, 10:03 PM
I'll play your little game. Yes, so?

I just wanted to see if you'd fuck her to secure a Hillary presidency. I don't get to anymore :lol

Nbadan
07-28-2016, 10:04 PM
Immigration reform = amnesty....

Spurminator
07-28-2016, 10:05 PM
I don't think her speechwriter anticipated how menacing she would look saying "Join us." Looking forward to the GIFs.

TeyshaBlue
07-28-2016, 10:06 PM
^ Obviously not watching it, faggot. :lmao

Obviously able to think for myself, faggot. :lmao

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2016, 10:07 PM
I'm sorry but Hillary all the sudden being vehemently against Citizens United is pretty strange, she benefits from it more than any other candidate from either party.

"expanding voters rights" while actively suppressing voters

DMX7
07-28-2016, 10:09 PM
She really does seem fake.


I feel like Bill wrote the "Deal me in" line.

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2016, 10:09 PM
slip up there...only mentions free college for the middle class

DMX7
07-28-2016, 10:10 PM
Bring on the banker prosecutions.....

:lol

The ones that didn't donate to HFA.

pgardn
07-28-2016, 10:10 PM
I don't think her speechwriter anticipated how menacing she would look saying "Join us." Looking forward to the GIFs.

Star Wars join the dark side definitely in the works.

TheGreatYacht
07-28-2016, 10:10 PM
Hillary killing this shit, holy shit :wow

Our next president!

spurraider21
07-28-2016, 10:10 PM
Bryan Cranston & Morgan Freeman.... DNC = st:lolcked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s

Will Hunting
07-28-2016, 10:11 PM
I knew she had moved to the left during the primary but god damn, she's completely plagiarized Bernie Sanders' campaign platform in every which way :wow

Reck
07-28-2016, 10:11 PM
The olg hag actually going after Trump. :lol

spurraider21
07-28-2016, 10:13 PM
slip up there...only mentions free college for the middle class
she has already said free college for kids of households that make less than 125k iirc

not a slip up

DMX7
07-28-2016, 10:14 PM
I knew she had moved to the left during the primary but god damn, she's completely plagiarized Bernie Sanders' campaign platform in every which way :wow

She went all in on even Bernie's crazy ideas. You knew she would too. Whatever it takes to advance herself.

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2016, 10:16 PM
she has already said free college for kids of households that make less than 125k iirc

not a slip up
It didn't sound good leaving out the lower class in her statement, that's all.

Reck
07-28-2016, 10:18 PM
She went all in on even Bernie's crazy ideas. You knew she would too. Whatever it takes to advance herself.

She has. But there are caveats though.

Like for example on the free tuition free. It will only be for people who make less than 100k or something to that effect.

It would take her a long way if she comes out and say no to TPP here. Bernie niggas would lose their minds.

pgardn
07-28-2016, 10:18 PM
"expanding voters rights" while actively suppressing voters

The Bernie supporters were not having a problem finding an approved ID I'm pretty sure. Most hipsters got a drivers license.

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2016, 10:20 PM
I thought the Hillary chants were coming at odd times....

https://mobile.twitter.com/Georgia4Bernie/status/758855553300828160

pgardn
07-28-2016, 10:22 PM
I knew she had moved to the left during the primary but god damn, she's completely plagiarized Bernie Sanders' campaign platform in every which way :wow

She is attempting to get elected.
Who would have figured...

It will be interesting to see if any of this bites back during debates.

This is the risk in the game.

TheGreatYacht
07-28-2016, 10:23 PM
I thought the Hillary chants were coming at odd times....

https://mobile.twitter.com/Georgia4Bernie/status/758855553300828160
That looks home made as fuck :lol surprised the clown didn't use the Notes app

Reck
07-28-2016, 10:24 PM
I see people crying and and shit. Are these the paid actors putting on a show TheSanityAnnex? :lol

TheGreatYacht
07-28-2016, 10:25 PM
TSA with the conspiracy crowd and texts :lol

Knew he watched Alex Jones

Spurminator
07-28-2016, 10:28 PM
I thought the Hillary chants were coming at odd times....

https://mobile.twitter.com/Georgia4Bernie/status/758855553300828160

That's the fakest looking picture I've ever seen.

ElNono
07-28-2016, 10:28 PM
I told ya'll the worst speech was going to be her... easily the worst day of the convention, tbh

Reck
07-28-2016, 10:29 PM
TSA with the conspiracy crowd and texts :lol

Knew he watched Alex Jones

It's probably legit.

It did seem odd that they started chanting Hillary in the middle of a point she was making. It wasn't natural.

But that's why you have more Hillary people than Bernie's. But if they dont respect you enough to let you make a speech, then they dont deserve to ruin it either.

hitmanyr2k
07-28-2016, 10:30 PM
Christ, someone fire the person who makes Hillary's music choices.

Spurminator
07-28-2016, 10:30 PM
It's probably legit.

It did seem odd that they started chanting Hillary in the middle of a point she was making. It wasn't natural.

But that's why you have more Hillary people than Bernie's. But if they dont respect you enough to let you make a speech, then they dont deserve to ruin it either.

They were definitely shouting over other chants but that tweet is laughably fake.

Reck
07-28-2016, 10:30 PM
I told ya'll the worst speech was going to be her... easily the worst day of the convention, tbh

It was better than Trump's and that's what the media will compare her speech with.

TheGreatYacht
07-28-2016, 10:31 PM
What an alpha

ElNono
07-28-2016, 10:33 PM
It was better than Trump's and that's what the media will compare her speech with.

:lol he had to do over 140 characters, tbh... that's a pretty low bar, still.... I think speeches like Barry and his wife was bound to make her look bad, tbh...

TheGreatYacht
07-28-2016, 10:34 PM
Repugs hating her talking about policies and how she'll do it :lol

spurraider21
07-28-2016, 10:35 PM
I told ya'll the worst speech was going to be her... easily the worst day of the convention, tbh
just like trump... my opinion of her drops every time i hear her speak

pgardn
07-28-2016, 10:38 PM
I thought the Hillary chants were coming at odd times....

https://mobile.twitter.com/Georgia4Bernie/status/758855553300828160

How do you explain this?

http://i68.tinypic.com/30k8w3d.jpg

TheGreatYacht
07-28-2016, 10:52 PM
Clinton might be up double digits on the polls after this tbh :lol :wow

z0sa
07-28-2016, 10:56 PM
It's a vote not a commitment. I think people that column vote are idiots myself that doesn't mean boycott the whole damn thing. That is the entire strategy of one of the parties after all to keep turnout down and not participating certainly doesn't change anything.

I didnt say never vote. I just said never vote D or R. Unfortunately, that is far less popular than simply not voting at all. Gerrymandering and blatantly biased laws that essentially eliminate the viability of a third party make the disease of partisan politics almost uncurable.

Splits
07-28-2016, 10:58 PM
Whoever wrote the line "America is great because America is good" should be taken out behind the arena and executed. That has to be the stupidest line I've ever heard.

Splits
07-28-2016, 11:03 PM
Obviously Shillary's biggest weakness is these type of propaganda events. She should have never delivered this speech, it was fucking horrible.

What she should have done is come out to a raucous crowd, said "I suck at delivering propaganda speeches, so I'm not going to do it." They should have rolled a big ass oak desk out into the middle of the stage, dimmed the lights. She should have sat behind it, put on her glasses, pulled out a stack of papers, and delivered a policy lecture with an overriding theme about whatever the fuck she stands for (child care, education, Israeli apartheid, whatever).

It would have been a lot more authentic than :cry "America is great because it is good" :cry derp derp derp

Pathetic what I just witnessed.

Pathetic.

ElNono
07-28-2016, 11:07 PM
Obviously Shillary's biggest weakness is these type of propaganda events. She should have never delivered this speech, it was fucking horrible.

What she should have done is come out to a raucous crowd, said "I suck at delivering propaganda speeches, so I'm not going to do it." They should have rolled a big ass oak desk out into the middle of the stage, dimmed the lights. She should have sat behind it, put on her glasses, pulled out a stack of papers, and delivered a policy lecture with an overriding theme about whatever the fuck she stands for (child care, education, Israeli apartheid, whatever).

It would have been a lot more authentic than :cry "America is great because it is good" :cry derp derp derp

Pathetic what I just witnessed.

Pathetic.

She's just grating. She should've called in sick and let Bernie do it instead.

Reck
07-28-2016, 11:16 PM
758867796734320642

Massa.

Splits
07-28-2016, 11:17 PM
She's just grating. She should've called in sick and let Bernie do it instead.

American politics has turned into one big sloppy blow job, with gagging and puking on American nationalist propaganda cock. Obviously (Monica) she doesn't have the skills. She could have shifted these shitshow "conventions" forever by refusing to participate in such nonsense, and played to her strength, which is a policy wonk not a reality TV show flop.

Her tryhard orator persona is a dud, a blank, a Dale orgasm. It was disgusting to watch.

:cry America is great because it is good :cry

WTF?

Reck
07-28-2016, 11:18 PM
Obviously Shillary's biggest weakness is these type of propaganda events. She should have never delivered this speech, it was fucking horrible.

What she should have done is come out to a raucous crowd, said "I suck at delivering propaganda speeches, so I'm not going to do it." They should have rolled a big ass oak desk out into the middle of the stage, dimmed the lights. She should have sat behind it, put on her glasses, pulled out a stack of papers, and delivered a policy lecture with an overriding theme about whatever the fuck she stands for (child care, education, Israeli apartheid, whatever).

It would have been a lot more authentic than :cry "America is great because it is good" :cry derp derp derp

Pathetic what I just witnessed.

Pathetic.

Watching C-SPAN call ins from 3 different sides (Democrats, Republicans and Independents). The overall thinking is that she did OK.

FuzzyLumpkins
07-28-2016, 11:18 PM
I didnt say never vote. I just said never vote D or R. Unfortunately, that is far less popular than simply not voting at all. Gerrymandering and blatantly biased laws that essentially eliminate the viability of a third party make the disease of partisan politics almost uncurable.

If you live in Texas or a similar red or blue state I agree with you. In a purple state where you can influence the outcome then I think that doing so is a better choice.

I'll likely be voting libertarian myself as per usual.

Splits
07-28-2016, 11:25 PM
Watching C-SPAN call ins from 3 different sides (Democrats, Republicans and Independents). The overall thinking is that she did OK.

Just think of the type of loserdom life you must lead to call into C-Span.

I'm sure there's bipartisan agreement that :cry America is great because it is good :cry is "moving"

pgardn
07-28-2016, 11:25 PM
American politics has turned into one big sloppy blow job, with gagging and puking on American nationalist propaganda cock. Obviously (Monica) she doesn't have the skills. She could have shifted these shitshow "conventions" forever by refusing to participate in such nonsense, and played to her strength, which is a policy wonk not a reality TV show flop.

Her tryhard orator persona is a dud, a blank, a Dale orgasm. It was disgusting to watch.

:cry America is great because it is good :cry

WTF?

That is clearly a pitch for Republicans who are foreign policy oriented. Same reason they had a 4 star general on stage. People who believe your sad emoticon bracketed are scared shitless of Trump. Hillary is doing more work than just trying to gather Bernie supporters.

ElNono
07-28-2016, 11:26 PM
We all knew before she spoke a single word she's just not good for this kind of stuff. This is why Trump has a shot at all.

Splits
07-28-2016, 11:27 PM
I thought the Hillary chants were coming at odd times....

https://mobile.twitter.com/Georgia4Bernie/status/758855553300828160

:lol 18k posts and can't embed a tweet

Reck
07-28-2016, 11:27 PM
Just think of the type of loserdom life you must lead to call into C-Span.

I'm sure there's bipartisan agreement that :cry America is great because it is good :cry is "moving"

It's funny though. Some of the republicans are losing their shit.

One call was of an angry dude yelling HILLARY HAS BLOOD ON HER HANDS FROM BENGHAZI. :lmao

Splits
07-28-2016, 11:31 PM
We all knew before she spoke a single word she's just not good for this kind of stuff. This is why Trump has a shot at all.

Which is why she never should have "delivered" this monstrosity.

Like I said, dim the lights, put her seated behind a desk, let her lecture the crowd on policy for an hour, and be done with it. The media would be like:

"GAME CHANGER"
"SHE PLAYED TO HER STRENGTHS"
"TABLES HAVE BEEN TURNED"

Instead we have :cry America is great because it is good :cry

Pathetic.

StrengthAndHonor
07-28-2016, 11:31 PM
We all knew before she spoke a single word she's just not good for this kind of stuff. This is why Trump has a shot at all.
This^^^^

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2016, 11:33 PM
:lol 18k posts and can't embed a tweet
Proudly don't use Twitter and don't know how to embed it.

Splits
07-28-2016, 11:37 PM
"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal."

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal"

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

"America is great because it is good"

:lmao

StrengthAndHonor
07-28-2016, 11:44 PM
Sadly, morons will vote for this clinical sociopath because she's a woman. Yeah, but it's a Milestone :lol

pgardn
07-28-2016, 11:45 PM
We all knew before she spoke a single word she's just not good for this kind of stuff.

She said it herself.

Sad thing is she said the practice has been intense and she still can't come close to her husband or the Obamas.
I think this is a way to portray herself as a tireless worker who does not give up. I can't say I disagree. Trump is a promotion workaholic. Both candidates are clearly not lazy people.

ElNono
07-28-2016, 11:48 PM
Which is why she never should have "delivered" this monstrosity.

Like I said, dim the lights, put her seated behind a desk, let her lecture the crowd on policy for an hour, and be done with it. The media would be like:

"GAME CHANGER"
"SHE PLAYED TO HER STRENGTHS"
"TABLES HAVE BEEN TURNED"

Instead we have :cry America is great because it is good :cry

Pathetic.

They should've made it shorter, tbh... save the embarrassment.

Chinook
07-28-2016, 11:49 PM
"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal."

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal"

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

"America is great because it is good"

:lmao

Sounds like something Kawhi would say.

ElNono
07-28-2016, 11:51 PM
She said it herself.

Sad thing is she said the practice has been intense and she still can't come close to her husband or the Obamas.
I think this is a way to portray herself as a tireless worker who does not give up. I can't say I disagree. Trump is a promotion workaholic. Both candidates are clearly not lazy people.

Some people just don't have "it". And as much as people try to dismiss it, elections like this is all about emotion, looks, delivery... that's why even guys like Joe connect to people at some level.

StrengthAndHonor
07-28-2016, 11:53 PM
Pretty interesting that the only things in her speech worth checking are things that no one thinks are relevant to this election. This is how it has been going this while campaign. She talks in generalities, platitudes that are mostly common to both candidates.


Bring on the Presidential DEBATES!!!! Hillary has to face an opponent who will be willing to call her Crooked Hillary and go into detail as to what makes her crooked and corrupt. HC is going to be destroyed, that I'm sure of.

pgardn
07-28-2016, 11:54 PM
Sadly, morons will vote for this clinical sociopath because she's a woman. Yeah, but it's a Milestone :lol

So people will vote for a person who is clinically diagnosed as preoccupied with himself and his image.
What exactly is the problem?

ElNono
07-28-2016, 11:58 PM
Pretty interesting that the only things in her speech worth checking are things that no one thinks are relevant to this election. This is how it has been going this while campaign. She talks in generalities, platitudes that are mostly common to both candidates.

Bring on the Presidential DEBATES!!!! Hillary has to face an opponent who will be willing to call her Crooked Hillary and go into detail as to what makes her crooked and corrupt. HC is going to be destroyed, that I'm sure of.

Just bring the damn election already and let's get past this shitshow... can't believe presidential elections are like 3 years long now... feels like it anyways.

StrengthAndHonor
07-28-2016, 11:59 PM
Just bring the damn election already and let's get past this shitshow... can't believe presidential elections are like 3 years long now... feels like it anyways.True...:lol

baseline bum
07-28-2016, 11:59 PM
blatantly biased laws that essentially eliminate the viability of a third party

You mean the constitution? :lol

z0sa
07-29-2016, 12:01 AM
You mean the constitution? :lol

Actually . . . yes. You were the one in fact who opened my eyes to the (perhaps unintended) consequences of the electoral college, for instance.

pgardn
07-29-2016, 12:02 AM
Some people just don't have "it". And as much as people try to dismiss it, elections like this is all about emotion, looks, delivery... that's why even guys like Joe connect to people at some level.

Personally, her blatant lying strikes me as much more repulsive than the lack of any sort of charisma.

Chinook
07-29-2016, 12:03 AM
You mean the constitution? :lol

Yeah, there's no way the voting system would support three parties. Do people really want what's essentially a half-senate to decide the presidency each election? Because that's what we'd be facing.

Chinook
07-29-2016, 12:05 AM
Actually . . . yes. You were the one in fact who opened my eyes to the (perhaps unintended) consequences of the electoral college, for instance.

It was fully intended. Remember, the original design of the Constitution was for a party-less system. It's straight-ridiculous how much faith the founders put in Congress.

Splits
07-29-2016, 12:07 AM
Bring on the Presidential DEBATES!!!! Hillary has to face an opponent who will be willing to call her Crooked Hillary and go into detail as to what makes her crooked and corrupt. HC is going to be destroyed, that I'm sure of.

:lmao Jesus, Lakerfan is so fucking deluded.

You actually think Trump is going to debate her 3 times? And win? She will castrate him after the first debate and he'll refuse the next two. Book it.

baseline bum
07-29-2016, 12:07 AM
Yeah, there's no way the voting system would support three parties. Do people really want what's essentially a half-senate to decide the presidency each election? Because that's what we'd be facing.

Republicans would love that shit with more red states than blue in this nation.

ducks
07-29-2016, 12:11 AM
Trump is in her head she really went after him

StrengthAndHonor
07-29-2016, 12:12 AM
:lmao Jesus, Lakerfan is so fucking deluded.

You actually think Trump is going to debate her 3 times? And win? She will castrate him after the first debate and he'll refuse the next two. Book it.
We shall see...

Splits
07-29-2016, 12:13 AM
Proudly don't use Twitter and don't know how to embed it.

:lol "don't use Twitter" yet posts tweets

Chinook
07-29-2016, 12:15 AM
Republicans would love that shit with more red states than blue in this nation.

Depends on what the third party looks like. If I had to guess now, it would be democrats, libertarians and some party that's like an extremely conservative populism. That wouldn't bode well for current republicans.

Splits
07-29-2016, 12:15 AM
We shall see...

You won't be seeing shit when I'm done with you, Lakerfan

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/58179797.jpg

baseline bum
07-29-2016, 12:15 AM
It was fully intended. Remember, the original design of the Constitution was for a party-less system. It's straight-ridiculous how much faith the founders put in Congress.

Why was it ridiculous though? It keeps entrenched power strong.

Chinook
07-29-2016, 12:19 AM
Why was it ridiculous though? It keeps entrenched power strong.

I know the whole goal was for them to toe the republic/oligarchy line by having only elites get to decide which super-elites got to decide how the country should function. It's just ridiculous that they were essentially putting all of their eggs in the basket of a retarded version of Parliament. Like the emphasis on state representation is so idiotic.

TheSanityAnnex
07-29-2016, 12:21 AM
:lol "don't use Twitter" yet posts tweets
Maybe 5-10 posts out of 18,000. Yeah, don't use Twitter.

Splits
07-29-2016, 12:29 AM
Maybe 5-10 posts out of 18,000. Yeah, don't use Twitter.

Which explains why all of your "information" comes from dailycaller, drudge, redstate, newsmax, etc

StrengthAndHonor
07-29-2016, 12:38 AM
You won't be seeing shit when I'm done with you, Lakerfan

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/58179797.jpg

Clinton's fatal flaw is her checkered legal past. Ethical questions about her email practices, Benghazi, Wall Street dealings, falling approval rates. Trust me, Trump will hammer her for it. I can't see Clinton hitting Donald with anything new while Clinton is due for some more serious problems heading into the election (More wikileaks coming up)

Splits
07-29-2016, 12:40 AM
Clinton's fatal flaw is her checkered legal past. Ethical questions about her email practices, Benghazi, Wall Street dealings, falling approval rates. Trust me, Trump will hammer her for it. I can't see Clinton hitting Donald with anything new while Clinton is due for some more serious problems heading into the election (More wikileaks coming up)

:lmao "trust me" what a faggot

And if you're wrong?

I will bet you $1000 Trump loses.

I will ELE bet you Trump loses.

Name your price, faggot.

StrengthAndHonor
07-29-2016, 12:47 AM
:lmao "trust me" what a faggot

And if you're wrong?

I will bet you $1000 Trump loses.

I will ELE bet you Trump loses.

Name your price, faggot.

Stop smoking crack Splits, we're talking about their debates, not the general election.

Splits
07-29-2016, 01:21 AM
Stop smoking crack Splits, we're talking about their debates, not the general election.

:lmao so confident in his law and order dictator that he can't take a simple bet

z0sa
07-29-2016, 01:29 AM
It was fully intended. Remember, the original design of the Constitution was for a party-less system. It's straight-ridiculous how much faith the founders put in Congress.

These two statements are mutually exclusive.

z0sa
07-29-2016, 01:31 AM
Yeah, there's no way the voting system would support three parties. Do people really want what's essentially a half-senate to decide the presidency each election? Because that's what we'd be facing.

After one, maybe two such elections, the mass outrage created by the losers (and the few % of sympathetic independents on the winning side) would hopefully cause enough momentum for a constitutional amendment.

InRareForm
07-29-2016, 01:33 AM
trump is a joke

FuzzyLumpkins
07-29-2016, 01:33 AM
It was fully intended. Remember, the original design of the Constitution was for a party-less system. It's straight-ridiculous how much faith the founders put in Congress.

If it was intended then they would have mentioned them. Nevermind that they guaranteed the right to assemble and then immediately set up factions behind Jefferson and Hamilton falling in line with the federalist and antifederalist movements that were well established prior to drafting.

Trainwreck2100
07-29-2016, 01:53 AM
trump is a joke

Hillary ain't much better

Warlord23
07-29-2016, 02:16 AM
So the Democratic convention ended up referencing Reagan's optimism and defending John McCain's military legacy. Meanwhile the GOP convention's message was: America is shitty, and the only person who can fix it is an uninformed, draft-dodging TV star with the vocabulary and impulse control of a ten year old.

z0sa
07-29-2016, 02:38 AM
hillary and trump are jokes

the non dumbass version

Chinook
07-29-2016, 06:31 AM
These two statements are mutually exclusive.

Not really. If there is no one to control who runs for president, there is no way to prevent more than two from running.The idea that congress could essentially pick the president every time probably wasn't a concern for the founders, given that similar things already happen with parliamentary governments.

What they didn't anticipate was that the president and VP could have politically dissonant views under the original system (and that them having these views would present a problem). But they fixed that with the running mate system while leaving the rest of the system in place. Remember, there have been two times in history that the half-senate has decided the POTUS, so it's not like people don't know what could happen.

djohn2oo8
07-29-2016, 07:37 AM
Read the past few pages. Trump has a shot with what money? :lol

djohn2oo8
07-29-2016, 07:38 AM
Hillary and her campaign needs to keep going after those disallusioned GOP votes.

djohn2oo8
07-29-2016, 07:40 AM
0vGkRpOeBzo

more Hillary ad material

pgardn
07-29-2016, 08:20 AM
Stop smoking crack Splits, we're talking about their debates, not the general election.

You are confusing debating and speeches. She can debate. She can't give speeches.

And its its strange you would think Donald creates no new issues to pick on. The twitter obsessed create new talking points constantly. Donald has a stream of thought that leads directly to his mouth.

hater
07-29-2016, 08:31 AM
trump is a joke

Shillary is a BAD joke

hater
07-29-2016, 08:32 AM
Hillary and her campaign needs to keep going after those disallusioned GOP votes.

Good luck with that :lmao

No Republican I know is voting for Hillacuck

DMX7
07-29-2016, 08:32 AM
0vGkRpOeBzo

more Hillary ad material

Ted hasn't fully recovered.

PublicOption
07-29-2016, 08:39 AM
Wikileaks is setting everyone up. They hammered the DNC. Waiting for the RNC to suck it up. Then BAM they are going to leak Donald's personal emails and tax returns.

pgardn
07-29-2016, 08:51 AM
Then the Donald will believe that Wiki leaks are not "being nice to him"

And institutions that are not nice to Donald are in big trouble. He will single-handedly solve the problem.

djohn2oo8
07-29-2016, 09:18 AM
Good luck with that :lmao

No Republican I know is voting for Hillacuck

Laura Bush, etc...

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/07/29/dnc-convention-republicans-voting-for-hillary-clinton-doug-elmets-jennifer-lim-entire-sot.cnn

djohn2oo8
07-29-2016, 09:20 AM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/25/the-biggest-gop-names-backing-hillary-clinton-so-far.html

djohn2oo8
07-29-2016, 09:21 AM
Ted hasn't fully recovered.

Nobody liked Ted before his campaign. He was more despised than Trump.

djohn2oo8
07-29-2016, 09:25 AM
:lmao Bieber turned down 5 million dollars to play for Trump

https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/entertainment/music/justin-bieber-turned-5m-offer-perform-rnc-article-1.2730858

rmt
07-29-2016, 09:39 AM
Wikileaks is setting everyone up. They hammered the DNC. Waiting for the RNC to suck it up. Then BAM they are going to leak Donald's personal emails and tax returns.

I don't think Trump uses email - iirc, he writes things down on paper.

CosmicCowboy
07-29-2016, 09:39 AM
:lmao Bieber turned down 5 million dollars to play for Trump

https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/entertainment/music/justin-bieber-turned-5m-offer-perform-rnc-article-1.2730858

Sounds like Bieber PR bullshit.

To start with, no self respecting Republican would give a shit about that fucked up little bitch.

No wonder he is a Hillary supporter.

rmt
07-29-2016, 09:52 AM
GDP for 2nd quarter is 1.2 (expected 2.6). GDP for 1st quarter revised down from 1.1 to 0.8 but the dems' view sure looks rosy.

hater
07-29-2016, 10:06 AM
Laura Bush, etc...

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/07/29/dnc-convention-republicans-voting-for-hillary-clinton-doug-elmets-jennifer-lim-entire-sot.cnn

Of course Trump raped her children.

I'm talking about regular republican citizens not sold out politicians

ducks
07-29-2016, 10:38 AM
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/13782075_1751741591733858_3375944079358797335_n.pn g.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=3984d12364a178b0608d97b0fec0f90f&oe=582C89AB

Splits
07-29-2016, 12:26 PM
lol 50k posts and can't embed an image

hater
07-29-2016, 12:31 PM
:lol Ducks going HAM

ducks
07-29-2016, 12:45 PM
lol 50k posts and can't embed an image

uses less bandwidth this way

ducks
07-29-2016, 12:46 PM
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is about to be out nearly $1 million after he lost a lengthy battle with a famous auction house.

TMZ reports that Abdul-Jabbar has been ordered to pay $900,000 to Julien’s Auctions after a deal between the auction house and Los Angeles Lakers legend went south in 2012. Abdul-Jabbar believed the auction house was supposed to sell around 400 items for him, and he decided to physically remove the items himself in 2014 when they weren’t sold.

After that incident, Julien’s sued Kareem. They won. Here are some more details:

Julien’s sued Kareem — claiming they also made a $300k donation to his foundation as part of the deal to sell the items — but he refused to refund the money when he backed out of the sale.

The case went to arbitration … and Kareem lost.

Now, he’s been ordered to pay more than $900k in damages PLUS interest and attorney’s fees. He’s also been ordered to return all the items he took.

Darren Julien, the president and CEO of Julien’s Auctions, told TMZ it is “unfortunate” the courts had to get involved. He claims the company did everything it could to reach an agreement with Kareem before filing the lawsuit.

We haven’t really heard much from Abdul-Jabbr since he made these bizarre comments about LeBron James a couple years back. I’m sure this isn’t the way he envisioned his name getting back into the news.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/kareem-abdul-jabbar-ordered-to-pay-dollar900k-to-auction-house/ar-BBuZAGh?li=BBgET5V&ocid=spartandhp

and they use him to speak at their party!

pgardn
07-29-2016, 01:08 PM
Of course Trump raped her children.

I'm talking about regular republican citizens not sold out politicians

Regular Republicans...
What is this beast you speak of.

179 houses in my hood in SA conservative voting district. Last election Romney signs up all over. Scattered Obama. Well over 1/4 of the houses with Romney signs. This year 2 Cruz signs and 2 Trump signs 2 Bernie signs Zero Clinton.

Now... 1 Trump sign. That's it.

I am thinking this is a year no one wants to admit who they are voting for or will not vote. One guy in our neighborhood would actually go down to our voting station and wear a Republican Elephant mask for the most minor elections. He has always had Republican candidate signs for every Republican at every level of politics in the most minor elections. His Cruz sign came down way early. His lawn is totally devoid of any signs.

Have you told anyone you don't know well (face to face) you are voting for Trump?

I will Discuss nada during business, conferences, trips....even though last election everyone had an opinion. This year is strangely silent between acquaintances. Bizarre stuff I tell the board. The mute virus is rampant between acquaintances.

ducks
07-29-2016, 01:40 PM
How Hillary blew her big moment

http://nypost.com/2016/07/29/how-hillary-blew-her-big-moment/

Dirk Oneanddoneski
07-29-2016, 02:40 PM
Regular Republicans...
What is this beast you speak of.

179 houses in my hood in SA conservative voting district. Last election Romney signs up all over. Scattered Obama. Well over 1/4 of the houses with Romney signs. This year 2 Cruz signs and 2 Trump signs 2 Bernie signs Zero Clinton.

Now... 1 Trump sign. That's it.

I am thinking this is a year no one wants to admit who they are voting for or will not vote. One guy in our neighborhood would actually go down to our voting station and wear a Republican Elephant mask for the most minor elections. He has always had Republican candidate signs for every Republican at every level of politics in the most minor elections. His Cruz sign came down way early. His lawn is totally devoid of any signs.

Have you told anyone you don't know well (face to face) you are voting for Trump?

I will Discuss nada during business, conferences, trips....even though last election everyone had an opinion. This year is strangely silent between acquaintances. Bizarre stuff I tell the board. The mute virus is rampant between acquaintances.

this kind

http://i.imgur.com/AFYFPY8.jpg

Dirk Oneanddoneski
07-29-2016, 02:50 PM
First Michael Moore now the Armenian genocide denier, who will be the next one put on suicide watch?


http://i.imgur.com/anRuuym.jpg


0WVfDpVYahE

DMX7
07-29-2016, 02:59 PM
:lmao Bieber turned down 5 million dollars to play for Trump

https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/entertainment/music/justin-bieber-turned-5m-offer-perform-rnc-article-1.2730858

It would be terrible decision for him to take that. And he can make big cash easily from other places anyway.

FuzzyLumpkins
07-29-2016, 03:05 PM
How Hillary blew her big moment

http://nypost.com/2016/07/29/how-hillary-blew-her-big-moment/

So far Politico, CSM, and reuters have panned it as a good speech and successful convention. You really are trying hard though.

ducks
07-29-2016, 03:25 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tv-ratings-hillary-clintons-dnc-915706

trump trumps her

ducks
07-29-2016, 03:27 PM
http://www.dailywire.com/news/7844/leftist-filmmaker-uploads-video-showing-his-shock-chase-stephens

empty seats everywhere!

ducks
07-29-2016, 03:28 PM
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-cnn-wolf-blitzer-drinks-wine-dances-celebrate-hillarys-nomination/
VIDEO: CNN Wolf Blitzer drinks wine, dances to celebrate Hillary’s nomination

hitmanyr2k
07-29-2016, 03:36 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tv-ratings-hillary-clintons-dnc-915706

trump trumps her

One day out of four is nothing to crow about. The DNC pretty much demolished the RNC for three straight days. I hardly call that a win by the RNC. They squeaked out Day 4.


DNC
Day 1 — 28.4 million
Day 2 — 28 million
Day 3 — 27 million
Day 4 — 33.3 million

RNC
Day 1 — 23 million
Day 2 — 23 million
Day 3 — 19.8 million
Day 4 — 34.9 million

TheSanityAnnex
07-29-2016, 03:38 PM
L_T749zVYhQ

embedded just for you Splits (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=24583)

StrengthAndHonor
07-29-2016, 03:58 PM
L_T749zVYhQ

embedded just for you Splits (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=24583)
:lol

hitmanyr2k
07-29-2016, 04:00 PM
L_T749zVYhQ

embedded just for you Splits (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=24583)

This narrative sounds so familiar.

nt0bEkra3wU

WhPeFXjLCoM

48BBS7IuPdo

StrengthAndHonor
07-29-2016, 04:01 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tv-ratings-hillary-clintons-dnc-915706

trump trumps her
And that's with an All Star cast too...lol

Reck
07-29-2016, 05:18 PM
http://www.dailywire.com/news/7844/leftist-filmmaker-uploads-video-showing-his-shock-chase-stephens

empty seats everywhere!

LOL taking a picture at 3PM.

TheGreatYacht
07-29-2016, 06:03 PM
Can't wait to see them polls :wow

When Clinton is up HUGE, repugs won't believe in polls all of a sudden :lol

boutons_deux
07-29-2016, 06:09 PM
Republicans Promise Smooth Transition of Hate from Obama to Clinton

WASHINGTON - On Friday morning congressional Republicans tonight promised that there will be a "seamless transition of hatred" if President Obama is succeeded in office by Hillary Clinton.

"Like many Americans, we will be saddened to see our lawsuits, investigations, and general harassment directed towards President Obama come to an end," said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

"But we want to reassure everyone that we are very much up to the challenge of transferring our hatred to a President Clinton."

McConnell promised the American people that the tormenting of the new Democratic President would begin on her first day in office.

"The fact that we began this process while she was still Secretary of State will really enable us to hit the ground running," he said.

https://www.facebook.com/andyborowitz/?fref=nf

spankadelphia
07-30-2016, 10:22 PM
http://i.imgur.com/xlL2CwX.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/H2wbh1b.jpg

DMX7
07-31-2016, 12:35 AM
:lol Ducks going HAM

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/13782075_1751741591733858_3375944079358797335_n.pn g.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=3984d12364a178b0608d97b0fec0f90f&oe=582C89AB

Why isn't Mr. Trump retweeting this? Do I need to tweet it to him first?

Gummi Clutch
07-31-2016, 01:31 AM
Dems went hardcore on dat ass. Republicans were like the fat whale watching the VS model...tbh

Reck
07-31-2016, 04:11 AM
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/13782075_1751741591733858_3375944079358797335_n.pn g.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=3984d12364a178b0608d97b0fec0f90f&oe=582C89AB

Why isn't Mr. Trump retweeting this? Do I need to tweet it to him first?

Fake as hell. But Trump lives for posting and saying false claims so maybe you should.

TheSanityAnnex
07-31-2016, 11:08 AM
Fake as hell. But Trump lives for posting and saying false claims so maybe you should.



The first line is completely true and was run in an attack ad by Obama in 08.

djohn2oo8
07-31-2016, 12:05 PM
The first line is completely true and was run in an attack ad by Obama in 08.

And Trump said Hilary was qualified. Political opinions change.

Spurminator
07-31-2016, 12:14 PM
If the worst that can be said about Clinton is that she will change nothing, I can live with that.

Reck
07-31-2016, 07:05 PM
The first line is completely true and was run in an attack ad by Obama in 08.

Yes, so that makes the rest of the fake quote legit?

The only right portion there are "She will say anything and change nothing."

http://www.snopes.com/obama-hillary-clinton-isnt-qualified/

TheGreatYacht
07-31-2016, 08:15 PM
Dems went hardcore on dat ass. Republicans were like the fat whale watching the VS model...tbh
:lol

boutons_deux
08-01-2016, 09:55 AM
If the worst that can be said about Clinton is that she will change nothing, I can live with that.

She will preside over the long-running, continuing decline of the 90%.

z0sa
08-01-2016, 10:15 AM
If the worst that can be said about Clinton is that she will change nothing, I can live with that.

Said every Hillary voter in 2016. Which is almost exclusively middle aged and elderly folks.

In case one cant tell from the massive anti establishment movements on either wing of the aisle, or from the historic debt, or from the 15 years straight of wartime, or from the massively overpopulated and corrupt prison penal system, or the 8 straight years of partisan deadlock: this country has never been less stable, nor has it ever been more divided, nor has it ever had two candidates so hugely disliked.

Status quo is the opposite of the answer we need. If that is what you voted for, consider yourself part of the problem. If that is all youre expecting, then why didnt you just Bernie for the hell of it?

ducks
08-01-2016, 10:24 AM
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/289932-khizer-khan-was-tricked-into-smearing-donald-trump

Khizr Khan was tricked into smearing Donald Trump

Reck
08-01-2016, 10:58 AM
Said every Hillary voter in 2016. Which is almost exclusively middle aged and elderly folks.

In case one cant tell from the massive anti establishment movements on either wing of the aisle, or from the historic debt, or from the 15 years straight of wartime, or from the massively overpopulated and corrupt prison penal system, or the 8 straight years of partisan deadlock: this country has never been less stable, nor has it ever been more divided, nor has it ever had two candidates so hugely disliked.

Status quo is the opposite of the answer we need. If that is what you voted for, consider yourself part of the problem. If that is all youre expecting, then why didnt you just Bernie for the hell of it?

Question:

Are you trying to convince yourself to vote Trump?

Lotta people playing with fire imo. I almost want to see Trump win just to see the faces of those who voted for him when he does nothing and possibly set us back decades in terms of progress we've made in human civil rights.

This Trump/Russia thing has legs.

ducks
08-01-2016, 11:03 AM
this Clinton lying and Clinton foundation that irs is checking out has legs

Clinton if you are a white male you suck
minorities and females rule

clambake
08-01-2016, 11:09 AM
I'm trying to figure out if i understand ducks.

z0sa
08-01-2016, 12:48 PM
Question:

Are you trying to convince yourself to vote Trump?

Lotta people playing with fire imo. I almost want to see Trump win just to see the faces of those who voted for him when he does nothing and possibly set us back decades in terms of progress we've made in human civil rights.

This Trump/Russia thing has legs.

I already said how Im going to decide who I vote for: whoever opposes TPP the most intensely. Both candidates are fucked off. Is trump worse? Sure, go ahead and say he is, I wont disagree. But if Hillary cant do something as UTTERLY SIMPLE AS KEEP HER WORD, why does she suddenly deserve my vote instead? I voted and donated Bernie and he lost, and I live in a gerrymandered red fortress, so Im pretty much horseless in this race.

Quetzal-X
08-01-2016, 12:52 PM
2 Esdras 6:9

“For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.”

King James Version (KJV)

Quetzal-X
08-01-2016, 12:54 PM
Esau 4 Prez . Lets do this yall. lol Give him the fucking codes.

:bobo

TheSanityAnnex
08-01-2016, 01:07 PM
This Trump/Russia thing has legs.LOL

Reck
08-01-2016, 01:26 PM
LOL

The denial...its so real. :lmao

Trump can't get out of his own way. Everytime he tries to refute the fact he doesn't know Putin or has a penchant for him the worst it gets for him. It's like watching a slow motion train wreck. :lol

Spurminator
08-01-2016, 01:55 PM
Said every Hillary voter in 2016. Which is almost exclusively middle aged and elderly folks.

In case one cant tell from the massive anti establishment movements on either wing of the aisle, or from the historic debt, or from the 15 years straight of wartime, or from the massively overpopulated and corrupt prison penal system, or the 8 straight years of partisan deadlock: this country has never been less stable, nor has it ever been more divided, nor has it ever had two candidates so hugely disliked.

Status quo is the opposite of the answer we need. If that is what you voted for, consider yourself part of the problem. If that is all youre expecting, then why didnt you just Bernie for the hell of it?

Take it easy, champ, I was just responding to the silly meme with the fake Obama quote. I voted for Bernie in the Primary. We have two realistic choices at this time: status quo lead by the establishment, or uncertainty lead by a moody narcissist. I don't like either choice, but I also don't feel an urge to play Russian Roulette with the office of POTUS by entrusting it to someone like DT.

TheSanityAnnex
08-01-2016, 01:58 PM
The denial...its so real. :lmao

Trump can't get out of his own way. Everytime he tries to refute the fact he doesn't know Putin or has a penchant for him the worst it gets for him. It's like watching a slow motion train wreck. :lol

I'm LOL'ing because you are clueless to Hillary's ties to Russia, something with actual legs

Report here: http://www.g-a-i.org/u/2016/08/Report-Skolkvovo-08012016.pdf

z0sa
08-01-2016, 02:00 PM
Take it easy, champ, I was just responding to the silly meme with the fake Obama quote. I voted for Bernie in the Primary. We have two realistic choices at this time: status quo lead by the establishment, or uncertainty lead by a moody narcissist. I don't like either choice, but I also don't feel an urge to play Russian Roulette with the office of POTUS by entrusting it to someone like DT.

Dont take it easy champ me. I get passionate about the Spurs and i get passionate about politics. I didnt mean to attack you, i apologize for assuming things. I just hate both candidates and parties immensely.

Spurminator
08-01-2016, 02:04 PM
Dont take it easy champ me. I get passionate about the Spurs and i get passionate about politics. I didnt mean to attack you, i apologize for assuming things. I just hate both candidates and parties immensely.

No worries, no attack felt. Passion's good.

boutons_deux
08-01-2016, 03:24 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-oliver-donald-trump-khan_us_579ef902e4b08a8e8b5e740c?

ducks
08-01-2016, 03:45 PM
huff a liberal piece of shit

MannyIsGod
08-01-2016, 05:13 PM
Said every Hillary voter in 2016. Which is almost exclusively middle aged and elderly folks.

In case one cant tell from the massive anti establishment movements on either wing of the aisle, or from the historic debt, or from the 15 years straight of wartime, or from the massively overpopulated and corrupt prison penal system, or the 8 straight years of partisan deadlock: this country has never been less stable, nor has it ever been more divided, nor has it ever had two candidates so hugely disliked.

Status quo is the opposite of the answer we need. If that is what you voted for, consider yourself part of the problem. If that is all youre expecting, then why didnt you just Bernie for the hell of it?

Your claim that Clinton's support is mainly middle aged and elderly voters is completely wrong. 65% of this polls respondents under 45 support Clinton. And others show similar numbers. By contrast, she only wins 45% of those over 45. Also, the status quo isn't the same as being stagnant. The status quo is what brought us Obamacare, an EPA that targets climate change, gay marriage, and other Obama initiatives.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/08/01/2016.post-dem.convention.pdf

boutons_deux
08-01-2016, 07:25 PM
"almost exclusively middle aged and elderly folks."

holy shit! You are misinformed. Trash has white men, low-wage, low-information, no college. Hillary winning nearly every other demographic.