Argentine Patricio Garino signs with the Spurs per Woj

[Clipper Nation]

Great news for Porker fluffers. Now they have another Argie to blame every loss on.

[dabom]

Great news for Porker fluffers. Now they have another Argie to blame every loss on.

:lol

[Kawhitstorm]

I tend to agree with this assumption but i think Garino can do a bot more than our traditionals (Bowen, Udoka, Green, Butler) 3-D guys.

He has a bot more upside on offense than those players.

The more I watch him, he reminds me of Landry Fields who was a solid role player for the Knicks before he went to the Raptors & his career ended.

[rastaspur]

Pato is going to put in work again tonight.

[TrainOfThought5]

Dude might actually be a rotation player in the league

Rotation like 6th man/eventual starter ? Or rotation like he made the active roster?

[ceperez]

Took a peek at the Argentine Crotia game. Not impressed. Seems to be unable to stick to his man. When he misses he misses really badly!

He has a long road to go before even making the Spurs team.

[DAF86]

Took a peek at the Argentine Crotia game. Not impressed. Seems to be unable to stick to his man. When he misses he misses really badly!

He has a long road to go before even making the Spurs team.

The fuck are you watching? He has been a fucking beast on D. :lol

[Solid D]

Garino's hustle on loose ball situations has been impressive. He's a pretty important piece to Argentina's team.

[DAF86]

Garino's hustle on loose ball situations has been impressive. He's a pretty important piece to Argentina's team.

He's a poor man's Kawhi on that aspect. Great D, great hustle, rebounds, steals, out of nowhere blocks, loose balls gets. He's basically the only responsible for Argentina's defense being below average, on the last few years, to pretty good right now.

[.G.]

Niggz has those intangibles on da downstrole.

[rastaspur]

Pato put on his hard hat and went to work. A more worthier project than forbes, ljc, etc. Solid effort, good defense, plays smart and within a system. Keep it up pato. A great platform for patfo to evaluate him further. Pop has to be impressed so far.

[benefactor]

Took a peek at the Argentine Crotia game. Not impressed. Seems to be unable to stick to his man. When he misses he misses really badly!

He has a long road to go before even making the Spurs team.
#ceperez

[T Park]

How in the living hell was he un drafted? This guy is too good of a damn talent to go undrafted...

[SAGirl]

How in the living hell was he un drafted? This guy is too good of a damn talent to go undrafted...

I suppose because he's older (23 for having just graduated college) and he played in a weak conference, for a run of the mill NCAA team with no hype whatsoever and no accolades other than defense. He didn't even start shooting the 3 until his senior season, and just to give you perspective Anderson was 22 this past season and could have been a college senior himself the entire season. (At age 20 he had already accomplished more in NCAA than Garino did at 23 and he did it in a tougher conference. Dijon at 19, while wildly inefficient also had produced more in college play in a tough conference, and was a kid.) It's all perspective. In comparison with guys his own age, Garino didn't stand out.

These are Garino college stats:
Career Stats



Per Game
Team
G
GS
MPG
PPG
RPG
APG
SPG
BPG
TOPG
PFPG
FG%
3P%
FT%


12-13
GW
30
30
26.9
8.8
3.4
2.1
2.3
0.4
2.6
3.0
.427
.286
.648


13-14
GW
26
14
28.7
12.1
4.4
2.0
1.6
0.8
2.0
2.5
.561
.343
.593


14-15
GW
35
35
31.6
12.4
5.3
1.5
1.7
0.8
2.5
2.3
.531
.296
.735


15-16
GW
38
38
32.0
14.1
4.2
1.5
1.4
0.8
1.9
2.6
.510
.430
.689



As you see they are solid but nothing spectacular, specially for a 23 yr old (competing against guys much younger in college).

This was him in Summer League:


Date
Opponent
Result
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
OFF
DEF
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
PTS


Jul 06
vs NYK
W 95-90
33
3-8
2-5
6-7
0
2
2
2
3
1
1
3
14


Jul 04
at DAL
W 92-85
29
5-10
2-4
0-0
2
4
6
5
2
0
3
5
12


Jul 02
at CHA
W 79-74
29
3-8
1-4
3-4
1
1
2
3
1
1
2
6
10




The good news is that those teams he played for in SL were winning. But just compare that to some other drafted kids who are much younger already producing at a more impressive rate.

He's got roleplayer potential basically, a limited ceiling, but he's the kind of player that Spurs like to find and may fit into their system. Who knows? He may have gotten drafted in the second round but the Spurs didn't have a pick (the traded it for Ray Mac this past season).

[TheGreatYacht]

He fucking sucks :lol

[From Downtown]

The Spurs might have done it again...

[dbestpro]

He is one of those guys that do all the little things that helps a team win, but is never noticed by the casual fan, because they are always looking for ppg. Pop is smart enough that this guy could be a difference maker in the right lineups. Mario Ellie was this type of player.

[Leetonidas]

Rotation like 6th man/eventual starter ? Or rotation like he made the active roster?

no lol there is room in between there. like a 9th-11th spot guy

[dabom]

This dude is ready to take fathead's spot.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Best thing about ST in the summer is how much Spurs assignees get hyped :lol

[T Park]

He is one of those guys that do all the little things that helps a team win, but is never noticed by the casual fan, because they are always looking for ppg. Pop is smart enough that this guy could be a difference maker in the right lineups. Mario Ellie was this type of player.

Mario Elie, Jerome Kersey, Brent Barry, Bruce Bowen.

So many players that did stuff like this and never got recognition but were irreplaceable to try and win a championship.

[TrainOfThought5]

Best thing about ST in the summer is how much Spurs assignees get hyped :lol

Apparently theres about 5 guys who everyone thinks is a realistic shot for the 15th spot. :lol

[dabom]

USA Dream Team :lmao

[dabom]

Patty dropping 30 on talent. People thinking he needs Manu or any other fucking player. Dude just needs a pick and thats it.

[dabom]

Wrong thread. :lol

[TrainOfThought5]

Patty dropping 30 on talent. People thinking he needs Manu or any other fucking player. Dude just needs a pick and thats it.

When Patty is hot, he looks VERY good.

[cutewizard]

Mills might have a breakthrough season .......:bobo

[TheGreatYacht]

Got benched for old ass Delfino :wow :lol

[venitian navigator]

The problem with Garino is that he looks not existent on offense...being relegated in the corner for the casual three. Hope he has something more than this, also 'cause his shooting mechanics looks slow.

[kaji157]

The problem with Garino is that he looks not existent on offense...being relegated in the corner for the casual three. Hope he has something more than this, also 'cause his shooting mechanics looks slow.

We are taliking about a guy that comes to be the 3-D guy for the bench unit.
That unit has enough firepower, Danny Green looked great in the minutes he shared with the 2nd unit last year, yet his offense is basically the 3-pt shot and (sometimes) a midrange off one dribble.
Garino is more polished offensivelly than any of our historic 3-D guys, either starters (Bowen, Danny) or no (Udoka, Bogans).

[Atl Spur]

Garino play's to passive for me for long stretches; will have to fix that to play here.

[kobyz]

Next Keith Bogans...

[Leetonidas]

^next robin williams

[DAF86]

Next Keith Bogans...

Except that this guy can actually defend, shoot, and dribble the ball. :lol

[DAF86]

Garino got benched last game to match up Lithuania's height. And there was no chance in hell any of the other two wings (Manu and Nocioni) would get benched. I didn't like the move, our bigs aren't good enough to make a difference. Our only chance is to stay small and try to make the other team adapt. That's how we won the previous two games.

[dabom]

Garino got benched last game to match up Lithuania's height. And there was no chance in hell any of the other two wings (Manu and Nocioni) would get benched. I didn't like the move, our bigs aren't good enough to make a difference. Our only chance is to stay small and try to make the other team adapt. That's how we won the previous two games.

Garino is the odd one out of the group. Coach probably didn't wanna lose with inexperienced young guys .

[T Park]

Garino got benched last game to match up Lithuania's height. And there was no chance in hell any of the other two wings (Manu and Nocioni) would get benched. I didn't like the move, our bigs aren't good enough to make a difference. Our only chance is to stay small and try to make the other team adapt. That's how we won the previous two games.


Yeah that never made any sense to me, and when Garino was in he was easily the second best player out there behind Manu.

Garino is better than Nocioni right now but I'm sure the coach wouldn't dream of playing him over 13.

[ulosturedge]

Next Keith Bogans...

Dude, please don't ever mention this name again.

[Pocho La Pantera]

Kobyz, tgy and Hater why do you even post? Nobody gives a fuck of what you say.

[TrainOfThought5]

Dude, please don't ever mention this name again.

Richard Jefferson?

[monkeypunk]

Kobyz, tgy and Hater why do you even post? Nobody gives a fuck of what you say.

+1

[kobyz]

Kobyz, tgy and Hater why do you even post? Nobody gives a fuck of what you say.

Someone mad cause telling the true...

[benefactor]

Someone mad cause telling the true...
Someone a faggot

[BOHOLANO#21]

Hit few corner threes today in double OT win by Argentina over Brazil!

[DAF86]

Hit few corner threes today in double OT win by Argentina over Brazil!

And won two vital offensive rebounds on the clutch. That's an underrated part of his game that contrubutes to winning basketball.

[kaji157]

Great game by Garino today, and was +13 on a very even overtime game, better thn Nocioni (who played great with +11) and worse than Campazzo (team leading +17).
Most of the game he was on Barbosa, and played him very well, Barbosa was -8 for the game.
Great defense, some baskets here and there, a complete game for him.

[urunobili]

Seriously thinking about jumping in the wagon TBH...

[dabom]

Seriously thinking about jumping in the wagon TBH...

Trust me bro. It's the correct one. :lol

[pgardn]

Patty dropping 30 on talent. People thinking he needs Manu or any other fucking player. Dude just needs a pick and thats it.

Its the Fckn Olympics.

Get off it.

We have seen him in the NBA many more times.
You are telling me ONE game in the Olympics has brought something magical out we have never seen?
How's that D?

GTFOH

Wish you were right but... you are not.

[dabom]

Its the Fckn Olympics.

Get off it.

We have seen him in the NBA many more times.
You are telling me ONE game in the Olympics has brought something magical out we have never seen?
How's that D?

GTFOH

Wish you were right but... you are not.

His defense and offense is better than porker tbh.. I hope your "he needs manu" shtick gets dropped. :lol

It also showcased him as the 1st option and starting. Also playing against a stacked team. We learned a lot of things actually. :lol

[cutewizard]

Any links??

[ceperez]

Great game by Garino today, and was +13 on a very even overtime game, better thn Nocioni (who played great with +11) and worse than Campazzo (team leading +17).
Most of the game he was on Barbosa, and played him very well, Barbosa was -8 for the game.
Great defense, some baskets here and there, a complete game for him.

This looks promising that he was able to disrupt a speedster like Barbosa. If he becomes a danny green lite, then he should make the team.

[cutewizard]

THE "SHIELD OF CAPTAIN AMERICA" LINE-UP OF THE SPURS:

Dedmon at center,

Kawhi and D Green at forwards

Garino and Anderson at guards!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wildbill2u]

The more I watch him, he reminds me of Landry Fields who was a solid role player for the Knicks before he went to the Raptors & his career ended.

Did he lose it in the wild Toronto nightlife scene?

[wildbill2u]

THE "SHIELD OF CAPTAIN AMERICA" LINE-UP OF THE SPURS:

Dedmon at center,

Kawhi and D Green at forwards

Garino and Anderson at guards!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anderson probably needs a wizard to turn him into a defensive shield.

[pad300]

Did he lose it in the wild Toronto nightlife scene?

No, he had an elbow injury (nerve damage), which required 2 surgeries, and never really recovered. It wrecked his shot...

http://www.raptorsrepublic.com/forums/showthread.php?13800-Nerve-injury-could-end-Landry-Fields-is-NBA-career-next-year

Before that injury, Landry was a pretty good player.

[Mr. Body]

I'm a bit impressed by him. He's more mature than many rookies (which is literally true). Not a guarantee, but he has lots of hustle and poise.

[pgardn]

His defense and offense is better than porker tbh.. I hope your "he needs manu" shtick gets dropped. :lol

It also showcased him as the 1st option and starting. Also playing against a stacked team. We learned a lot of things actually. :lol

What Manu schtick? Where in my post? Patty is NOT the best PG on the Spurs, end of discussion. If you want to start Patty over DG and live with the consequences of no D at either guard well ok then.

You learned a lot of things.
Just like you did as an engineer... fake ass

[ElNono]

This dude is a project and he'll have to earn his keep with the Spurs. I know some of you are getting excited like he's the next Mbah Moute, but he's probably going to eat a lot of Toros minutes before he either sticks or not.

[Canyonero]

Is the username playgarino still available?

[dabom]

This dude is a project and he'll have to earn his keep with the Spurs. I know some of you are getting excited like he's the next Mbah Moute, but he's probably going to eat a lot of Toros minutes before he either sticks or not.

I don't think anyone of us think the guy is gonna be the next Manu or something. Can he take SG and SF minutes? I would wanna see some minutes next to Kawhi and play the old Kawhi role. Maybe 3 and slash on offense.

[cutewizard]

Murray and Garino will get the Austin treatment for player development......

Bertans is the one who could be ready from day one......

Just random thoughts.

[DJR210]

Just like you did as an engineer... fake ass

:lol was this the guy that my dude Silver&Black ethered by posting a pic of his degree?

[dabom]

:lol was this the guy that my dude Silver&Black (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20666) ethered by posting a pic of his degree?

He never posted his EIT though.. I got one of those. :lmao

[dabom]

I don't expect you to know the difference. :lmao

[DJR210]

:lol angry double post goods^
:lol sitting staring at his screen angry, so angry he has to create a second post immediately after to clarify further

[dabom]

:lol angry double post goods^
:lol sitting staring at his screen angry, so angry he has to create a second post immediately after to clarify further

Took you half an hour and still don't know the difference. Now you just deflecting per par. Don't step up next time. I am smarter than you. You shouldn't have any qualms with that. :lol

[DJR210]

Took you half an hour and still don't know the difference. Now you just deflecting per par. Don't step up next time. I am smarter than you. You shouldn't have any qualms with that. :lol

:cry I'm smarter than EVERYONEEEEEEEE

:lol ethered by Silver&Black

:lol you should have a beer

[dabom]

:cry I'm smarter than EVERYONEEEEEEEE

:lol ethered by Silver&Black (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20666)

:lol you should have a beer

I'm gonna drop it. Mainly because you still don't know the difference. :lol

It's not a good look picking on the weak/disabled. :lol

[dabom]

I forgot you're a republican. :lmao

[DJR210]

:lol more back to back posts

[BackHome]

Murray and Garino will get the Austin treatment for player development......

Bertans is the one who could be ready from day one......

Just random thoughts.

You can add Livio to the Austin list as well.

[offset formation]

You can add Livio to the Austin list as well.

You guys are sending too many folks to Austin. You have to have 13+2 in San Antonio. I agree on LVC. But Garino and/or Murray are likely to be on the team.

If the board keeps putting Garino, Murray, LVC, Forbes, and Arci in Austin, I'm not sure who is on the team.

And don't tell me Bonner.....please.

[ismael-robert]

Offset several things wrong. Roster must have 13, last 2 optional. Ljc n Murray are guaranteed. Garino, forbes, arci are traing camp invites/try outs. Even if someone has guarantee spurs can still send to Austin.

[Phenomanul]

IMO Campazzo would make a good replacement for Parker even while he lacks Tony's speed... the vision and tenacity more than make up for it.

[Kawhitstorm]

Did he lose it in the wild Toronto nightlife scene?

Same thing that happened to Hedo

[Canyonero]

IMO Campazzo would make a good replacement for Parker even while he lacks Tony's speed... the vision and tenacity more than make up for it.

Campazzo has more speed than Tony.

[Silver&Black]

:lol was this the guy that my dude Silver&Black (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20666) ethered by posting a pic of his degree?

Same guy.

[dabom]

Still waiting...

[ceperez]

You guys are sending too many folks to Austin. You have to have 13+2 in San Antonio. I agree on LVC. But Garino and/or Murray are likely to be on the team.

If the board keeps putting Garino, Murray, LVC, Forbes, and Arci in Austin, I'm not sure who is on the team.

And don't tell me Bonner.....please.

Spurs have a logjam for Toros players!

Guaranteed to spending time with the Toros: Murray, LJC, Garino (if he makes it), Forbes (if he makes it), Arcidiacono (if he make it), Bertans (though I doubt it).

[spurs10]

Offset several things wrong. Roster must have 13, last 2 optional. Ljc n Murray are guaranteed. Garino, forbes, arci are traing camp invites/try outs. Even if someone has guarantee spurs can still send to Austin. With Simmons being 11, Bertans likely more ready to play at 12, and LJC & Murray guaranteed. Garino will have to fight for a spot. I see our 14 & 15 guys being in Austin a lot. I also see the end of the bench rotating a bit as Pop gives them a shot. I don't know much about Murray other than he is on the roster.

[offset formation]

Offset several things wrong. Roster must have 13, last 2 optional. Ljc n Murray are guaranteed. Garino, forbes, arci are traing camp invites/try outs. Even if someone has guarantee spurs can still send to Austin.

No things wrong.

I wrote 13+2, not 15 for a reason. And I said nothing about anyone's status as far as invitee or guaranteed. I spoke very clearly about who ends up where. Not sure why you think you learnt me anything.

[Chinook]

Whoever grabs the 15th spot will active. All are low-ceiling guys who can contribute in a defined role and limited minutes. Arcidiacono would be the third PG, Forbes would be a shooting specialist, and Garino would be a defensive guy. LJC and especially Murray have a lot more upside, so letting them cultivate it in Austin makes sense.

[offset formation]

With Simmons being 11, Bertans likely more ready to play at 12, and LJC & Murray guaranteed. Garino will have to fight for a spot. I see our 14 & 15 guys being in Austin a lot. I also see the end of the bench rotating a bit as Pop gives them a shot. I don't know much about Murray other than he is on the roster.

Yep, I agree there will be a rotation with the end of the bench guys. Lots of back and forth this year.

[kaji157]

Whoever grabs the 15th spot will active. All are low-ceiling guys who can contribute in a defined role and limited minutes. Arcidiacono would be the third PG, Forbes would be a shooting specialist, and Garino would be a defensive guy. LJC and especially Murray have a lot more upside, so letting them cultivate it in Austin makes sense.

Agreed, if Garino makes the team i expect Murray and LJC to be with the toros the most, with Murray being on and off to fit Tony´s rest needs.
The reason is that Murray and LJC are the youngest and also the rawest players on the team. Bertans comes of playing in a First level European league, and Garino will come directly from Olimpic competition, very elite competition for both. While Livio and Murray come from lesser leagues.

[YGWHI]

I would have signed Nochioni three years ago instead of drafting Kyle/signing Garino.

Yesterday, I only found a link with brazilian commentators, didn't understand a single word but they mentioned Noch every second. What a player.

48 minutes 37 points. Amazing.

[raybies]

After seeing Garino and Forbes its gonna be close. I think Garinos skill set is more valuable though. 3 and D vs basically just 3 and some D. Garino can guard 3 different positions while Forbes can guard pgs. Another body that can Dee up and space the floor off the bench would be welcomed highly especially if anything happens to KL or DG. Some insurance. Forbes is basically Patty insurance while Garino can cover more spots. When Manu sits, you'd have Patty, Pato, Bertans, Anderson, and Dedmon which helps that lineup with defense, one of its weaknesses. Might lack in playmaking though so then you could have, Patty, Simmons, Pato, Anderson, and Dedmon. His strong suit should help him get rotation minutes if he makes it especially if he's making threes. He's a playmaker on d and that's what you look for in players. I'm high on him. Well I'm on both. I just think Pato is much more versatile and valuable. He's an ideal role player and he's more advance on offense than DG. And I'm saying for 3 and D here.

[SAGirl]

I would have signed Nochioni three years ago instead of drafting Kyle/signing Garino.

Yesterday, I only found a link with brazilian commentators, didn't understand a single word but they mentioned Noch every second. What a player.

48 minutes 37 points. Amazing.

Nocioni had some stinker games b4 that particular game FYI. He had been shooting bricks and was bound to have a game to level the shooting %.

Can't compare young draftees to veterans TBH. There is that article on Manu himself that said Manu didn't look early like what he would become. Spurs were almost lucky to get him as he wasn't that good when he was very young. Kawhi didn't look like an offensive player for a long time and certainly didn't look like what he is when he was 19-20.

What ppl need to keep in mind is that draftees are for the future. Specially the youngest guys the team drafts. Hate to bring it up, but Nocioni was in the NBA but washed out of it (injuries?, desire to return to Europe? I don't know)

If anything you may have said you wanted Nocioni instead of the Dayers and Bonners of the world and I would support you, but the Spurs need to keep taking raffle tickets with their young picks TBH.

[cutewizard]

So Thomas Robinson is gone?? hehe

[YGWHI]

Nocioni had some stinker games b4 that particular game FYI. He had been shooting bricks and was bound to have a game to level the shooting %.

Can't compare young draftees to veterans TBH. There is that article on Manu himself that said Manu didn't look early like what he would become. Spurs were almost lucky to get him as he wasn't that good when he was very young. Kawhi didn't look like an offensive player for a long time and certainly didn't look like what he is when he was 19-20.

What ppl need to keep in mind is that draftees are for the future. Specially the youngest guys the team drafts. Hate to bring it up, but Nocioni was in the NBA but washed out of it (injuries?, desire to return to Europe? I don't know)

If anything you may have said you wanted Nocioni instead of the Dayers and Bonners of the world and I would support you, but the Spurs need to keep taking raffle tickets with their young picks TBH.


I'm one of the few guys here who think that Kyle will improve a lot next seasons, I also posted that the guys who hate him now, are the same posters who said that Kawhi "will be only a decent defender" so I don't have any problem with waiting/developing young players.

But I watched some games of last Euro Finals Four and Nochioni's still great. I'd love to have a player like him on the team, he's so intense, a fierce competitor.

[SAGirl]

I'm one of the few guys here who thinks that Kyle will improve a lot next seasons, I also posted that the guys who hate him now, are the same posters who said that Kawhi will be "only a decent defender" so I don't have any problem with waiting/developing young players.

But I watched some games of last Euro Finals Four and Nochioni's still great. I'd love to have a player like him on the team three years ago, he's so intense, a fierce competitor.

Like I said he washed out of the league already.. de colo too. Fiba and NBA not the same thing.. but not that I am against it. What I am against in general is taking these old guys (he's 36 by the way) instead of guys who have upside, in general. Even picks like CoJo who looked very marginal for 2 seasons turn out to be NBA players... just can't give up on young guys that quickly to continue to pick TOSB TBH.

[YGWHI]

Like I said he washed out of the league already.. de colo too.

Not sure if they had the same story. The Bulls were in some rebuilding process and had to move/leave some players, but again, I'm not sure about that.

[MI21]

My only exposure to Garino was the Brazil vs Argentina game the other day, but to me he looked very very good. He has great form on his jumpshot and was great defensively. I'm cautiously optimistic.

[Phenomanul]

Campazzo has more speed than Tony.

Perhaps.... game quickness is something Tony still has from time to time... even while his elite speed has declined.

[kobyz]

Next Keith Bogans...

[Mnky]

Nocioni had some stinker games b4 that particular game FYI. He had been shooting bricks and was bound to have a game to level the shooting %.

Can't compare young draftees to veterans TBH. There is that article on Manu himself that said Manu didn't look early like what he would become. Spurs were almost lucky to get him as he wasn't that good when he was very young. Kawhi didn't look like an offensive player for a long time and certainly didn't look like what he is when he was 19-20.

What ppl need to keep in mind is that draftees are for the future. Specially the youngest guys the team drafts. Hate to bring it up, but Nocioni was in the NBA but washed out of it (injuries?, desire to return to Europe? I don't know)

If anything you may have said you wanted Nocioni instead of the Dayers and Bonners of the world and I would support you, but the Spurs need to keep taking raffle tickets with their young picks TBH.

Manu was known as the Micheal Jordan of Argentina when they drafted him.

[ace3g]

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Que lindo ver a Garino acá y que orgullo

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