View Full Version : Argentine Patricio Garino signs with the Spurs per Woj
BOHOLANO#21
07-29-2016, 12:45 PM
Patricio Garino just signed with the Spurs for partially guaranteed contract...
Ron Swanson
07-29-2016, 12:47 PM
Staaaaaaacked
From Downtown
07-29-2016, 12:47 PM
Ouch, now I don't know who I want to make the team between him and Arci :lol
Chinook
07-29-2016, 12:49 PM
That he has good size and is known for being a good defender is intriguing. But he's not likely to make the team now.
BOHOLANO#21
07-29-2016, 12:51 PM
A-10 First Team All Defense for three years. Could be a good potential back up for Kawhi if Fathead won't cut it.
jhfenton
07-29-2016, 12:51 PM
That he has good size and is known for being a good defender is intriguing. But he's not likely to make the team now.
What's your guess for the 15th roster spot on opening night? Forbes, Arci, Garino, Bonner, someone else, or no one?
NASpurs
07-29-2016, 12:53 PM
Another Patty on the team :tu
ducks
07-29-2016, 12:54 PM
is patty GONE?
DAF86
07-29-2016, 12:55 PM
Gotta keep that Argie quota after Manu is gone.
Chinook
07-29-2016, 12:55 PM
What's your guess for the 15th roster spot on opening night? Forbes, Arci, Garino, Bonner, someone else, or no one?
They'll probably bring in two bigs and another wing. It obvious depends on who those guys are. But Forbes has the best chance, I think. He might be able to replace Mills, even though I'm now thinking it's likely Mills is back. Arcidiacono is probably the best, though that's with me knowing nothing about Garino.
Chinook
07-29-2016, 12:56 PM
Gotta keep that Argie quota after Manu is gone.
So Garino is the Argentine, LJC is the Frenchie. So now the Spurs just need to trade for Christmas.
BOHOLANO#21
07-29-2016, 12:57 PM
6'7" and 43 % three point shooting last year in college? Surely intriguing. TP has LJC now Manu has Garino!
DPG21920
07-29-2016, 12:59 PM
So Garino is the Argentine, LJC is the Frenchie. So now the Spurs just need to trade for Christmas.
And revitialize Anthony Bennet's carreer
Chinook
07-29-2016, 12:59 PM
6'7" and 43 % three point shooting last year in college? Surely intriguing. TP has LJC now Manu has Garino!
On top of that:http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Patricio-Garino-7063/
Much of Garino's potential is derived from his individual defense, as he is always in his opponent's space, locking his man down on a regular basis. He is an agile defender, sliding his feet and not allowing his man to move freely while also playing the passing lanes, averaging 1.7 steals per 40 minutes adjusted. While he is a good individual defender, he doesn't always react on time in a team defensive concept as he can be a step slow to rotate over on penetration. He can guard multiple positions and can switch onto ball-handlers off of pick and rolls.
SPURt
07-29-2016, 12:59 PM
What's your guess for the 15th roster spot on opening night? Forbes, Arci, Garino, Bonner, someone else, or no one?
I love Arci but I think Forbes has the early lead. Garino has an interesting skill set and size, though is off hand when shooting looks real weird. Check out the worst scouting video ever showing him missing shots. I thought these videos only showed scoring plays?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BXN2uiPvEI
Chinook
07-29-2016, 12:59 PM
And revitialize Anthony Bennet's carreer
Hanlan
BOHOLANO#21
07-29-2016, 01:03 PM
Maybe Pop saw something on Patricio Garino watching the USA vs. Argentina game?
BackHome
07-29-2016, 01:05 PM
Well he can play SG and SF and he has a high IQ and he is a very good defender. The Spurs are signing so many peeps I really don't know which way they are going. It's going to be very interesting watching summer camp who shines and who doesn't and who signs the contract and who gets the boot.
As as long as one of these guys replaces Bonner I am good with it. Come on Red Mamba join RC in his nice air conditioned office.
I. Hustle
07-29-2016, 01:13 PM
Spurs are now keeping an eye on this kid
http://www.ncsasports.org/mens-basketball-recruiting/vi/estate-thomas/ivanna-eudora-kean-high-school/jecoy-julius
DPG21920
07-29-2016, 01:19 PM
Hanlan
Sh*t :lol
Mikeanaro
07-29-2016, 01:19 PM
Gotta keep harvesting Argies, best players ever and its not a biased opinion...
DPG21920
07-29-2016, 01:22 PM
I don't know the guy but I have an opinion on his abilities!
Just kidding - in all honesty, I am just glad it's a younger player. Spurs don't have many young guys I am interested in unfortunately (other than Bertans/Murray), especially wings/bigs so I am happy to see SA working hard to get younger.
Spurs are still in win-now mode but like they have been for so many recent years, trying their best to keep an eye out for younger future players. It's tough and the pipeline isn't great yet, but I'm all for the direction of the team.
BOHOLANO#21
07-29-2016, 01:25 PM
Garino's signing makes it five Spurs playing in the Olympics!
Spurs9
07-29-2016, 01:34 PM
I'm so glad the Spurs aren't giving :lol todays nba contracts to people. Getting them on the cheap with good upside. :tu
r0drig0lac
07-29-2016, 01:38 PM
Manu who?
UNT Eagles 2016
07-29-2016, 01:40 PM
Gotta keep harvesting Argies, best players ever and its not a biased opinion...
they won a historically weak Olympic year with all the terrorism worries about playing so near the Middle East...
We're talking a year in which all of the American stars of the early 2000s except TD and AI quit on their country.
Shaq
Garnett
Kobe
Jermaine
Kidd
Allen
Pierce
Webber
............. A bunch of scared pussies
NickiRasgo
07-29-2016, 01:41 PM
Delfino upside?
Pocho La Pantera
07-29-2016, 01:54 PM
He is already better tan Parker.
BackHome
07-29-2016, 01:55 PM
What's your guess for the 15th roster spot on opening night? Forbes, Arci, Garino, Bonner, someone else, or no one?
Cant figure that out just yet bu doing it by position maybe a little easier by looking at if a starter misses exstensive games is his back up good enough to start and do we have a backup for him to start with second unit?
Pg. Parker, Mills, DM, ARCi?? - I am ok with this position I think best time to get DM minutes is early in the season to give Tony some rest and teams are still needing to jell so easier for new guys. I like ARCi I just think we have other needs
SG. Green, Manu, Mills, FORBES? This is a little more interesting if Forbes can show he can keep lighting it up and plays decent defense he has a shot.
SF. Kawhi, Andeson, Simmons, GARINO? I think this is one if our chink in the armor is if Kawhi is missing games
can we win 8 to 15 with his backup starting? Like Forbes I think Gariono
has a legit chance as he can play two positions
PF. Aldrige, Lee, Bertans, LIVIO? I like Lee pickup but I am not sold that Bertans can play the 4 for exstensive time don't get me wrong I think he is going to be the talk of the town starting next year. As far as Livio he is the mystery man from watching him in summer league he is assured a place on the D-league team. I really like Nnoko I know it's only one game but he was playing great defense and is very athletic and very young. Hope he get an invite
C. Paul, Dedman, ?? Biggest issue to me is Center as Dedman is still a newbie to
the game.
Diego20
07-29-2016, 01:56 PM
STACKED!!!
apalisoc_9
07-29-2016, 02:03 PM
He looks so much better than J.Simmons.
Maddog
07-29-2016, 02:04 PM
He's listed being on the Argentine national team for Rio
Not sure how much we will play...
Chinook
07-29-2016, 02:05 PM
Cant figure that out just yet bu doing it by position maybe a little easier by looking at if a starter misses exstensive games is his back up good enough to start and do we have a backup for him to start with second unit?
Pg. Parker, Mills, DM, ARCi?? - I am ok with this position I think best time to get DM minutes is early in the season to give Tony some rest and teams are still needing to jell so easier for new guys. I like ARCi I just think we have other needs
SG. Green, Manu, Mills, FORBES? This is a little more interesting if Forbes can show he can keep lighting it up and plays decent defense he has a shot.
SF. Kawhi, Andeson, Simmons, GARINO? I think this is one if our chink in the armor is if Kawhi is missing games
can we win 8 to 15 with his backup starting? Like Forbes I think Gariono
has a legit chance as he can play two positions
PF. Aldrige, Lee, Bertans, LIVIO? I like Lee pickup but I am not sold that Bertans can play the 4 for exstensive time don't get me wrong I think he is going to be the talk of the town starting next year. As far as Livio he is the mystery man from watching him in summer league he is assured a place on the D-league team. I really like Nnoko I know it's only one game but he was playing great defense and is very athletic and very young. Hope he get an invite
C. Paul, Dedman, ?? Biggest issue to me is Center as Dedman is still a newbie to
the game.
Nnoko has already signed in Europe.
apalisoc_9
07-29-2016, 02:07 PM
He should be able to develop a more consistent three. He's already taking them at a college level. If he can make those threes together with his length and defense, he would be a superior fit to Simmons.
Sean Cagney
07-29-2016, 02:13 PM
What's your guess for the 15th roster spot on opening night? Forbes, Arci, Garino, Bonner, someone else, or no one?
Bonners name is in here and it's the Spurs, you already know.....
Sean Cagney
07-29-2016, 02:16 PM
they won a historically weak Olympic year with all the terrorism worries about playing so near the Middle East...
We're talking a year in which all of the American stars of the early 2000s except TD and AI quit on their country.
Shaq
Garnett
Kobe
Jermaine
Kidd
Allen
Pierce
Webber
............. A bunch of scared pussiesThat team with those guys and TD and with AI would have crushed any team that year had they all played, period.
SpurPadre
07-29-2016, 02:29 PM
I can't wait until Pop tells a stupid sideline reporter, "He's Patricio Garino!"
kaji157
07-29-2016, 02:35 PM
I called this (??) months ago!
Hope he can be mentored by Manu and be a good backup.
He already has the range and the D.
SAGirl
07-29-2016, 02:37 PM
I posted this in the offseason thread, but it's relevant here too:
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Leetonidas
07-29-2016, 02:41 PM
Bertans will likely be behind Aldridge and Lee will be behind Dedmon imo
tmtcsc
07-29-2016, 02:47 PM
Not gonna lie, I have no idea who the fuck he is.
I. Hustle
07-29-2016, 02:51 PM
I called this (??) months ago!
Hope he can be mentored by Manu and be a good backup.
He already has the range and the D.
Bend over, I'll show you some range with the D.
kuato
07-29-2016, 02:52 PM
Garino is a good player, i don't know what the hell will pop do with him, i hope Spurs management doesn't make a new Scola case. We need Campazzo too!!
Canyonero
07-29-2016, 02:52 PM
Not gonna lie, I have no idea who the fuck he is.
White Kawhi
tmtcsc
07-29-2016, 02:53 PM
White Kawhi
Nice!
kaji157
07-29-2016, 02:54 PM
This is his debut in the Argentina NT in the FIBA Americas against Puerto Rico.
One of his best games (offensively) with the NT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF7Dh_YpCDE
Maddog
07-29-2016, 03:00 PM
OK
So he is awesome.
How come he wen't undrafted...
kaji157
07-29-2016, 03:06 PM
OK
So he is awesome.
How come he wen't undrafted...
No one is saying awesome.
SAGirl
07-29-2016, 03:08 PM
Bertans will likely be behind Aldridge and Lee will be behind Dedmon imo
I kind of agree, but I liked the graphical/visual representation of the chart. I also see Lee as a small ball center, and based on Bertans' statements so far Spurs see him as a stretch 4 prospect.
Maddog
07-29-2016, 03:12 PM
No one is saying awesome.
I'm being a bit sarcastic, but really why was he not drafted...
urunobili
07-29-2016, 03:31 PM
First Manu GM move TBH
Mikeanaro
07-29-2016, 03:33 PM
they won a historically weak Olympic year with all the terrorism worries about playing so near the Middle East...
We're talking a year in which all of the American stars of the early 2000s except TD and AI quit on their country.
Shaq
Garnett
Kobe
Jermaine
Kidd
Allen
Pierce
Webber
............. A bunch of scared pussies
Excuses, any USA team of any era should beat a couple of Argies, they lost twice and 2004 was far away from 9/11, Marion Iverson Wade Lebron Amare Duncan Jefferson Carmelo thats enough to monkeyball any shitty NT and make them eat crap.
Obstructed_View
07-29-2016, 03:59 PM
Isn't tomorrow the deadline for the Spurs to fully guarantee Simmons? Might see him let go.
Dro210
07-29-2016, 04:16 PM
This is his debut in the Argentina NT in the FIBA Americas against Puerto Rico.
One of his best games (offensively) with the NT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF7Dh_YpCDE
Dude balled hard in this game. I liked what I saw... good looking outside shot, nice catch and release, can finish, good spacing, showed some active defense, good hands, lot of made FTs, playing with some fire and emotion. Only 23, 6'10 wingspan :tu
montgod
07-29-2016, 04:18 PM
Isn't tomorrow the deadline for the Spurs to fully guarantee Simmons? Might see him let go.
I can't see that happening. It just wouldn't make sense after how he played in Summer League unless Spurs are trying to shop him. Only issue is you can't get a great player back in return for his current price tag unless he is part of a bigger trade. In this cap era, keeping Simmons is a steal based on potential alone for one more year and knowing Spurs' system.
intlspurshk
07-29-2016, 04:25 PM
His shooting is so slow and is even slower than Bonner
Mikeanaro
07-29-2016, 04:28 PM
His shooting is so slow and is even slower than Bonner
Butthurted Bonner fan confirmed.
Chinook
07-29-2016, 04:28 PM
Isn't tomorrow the deadline for the Spurs to fully guarantee Simmons? Might see him let go.
From last month: http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2016/06/30/spurs-to-guarantee-jonathon-simmons-contract/
montgod
07-29-2016, 04:30 PM
His shooting is so slow and is even slower than Bonner
I think shooting is a plus, but defensive skillset is what will get him on the team. Can't compare that with Bonner since Bonner has no lateral anything lol. Also depends on his counterparts like Livio and how he/they perform to see if Garino is a need/want on final roster.
timtonymanu
07-29-2016, 04:31 PM
He looks so much better than J.Simmons.
jehawk81
07-29-2016, 04:50 PM
This is his debut in the Argentina NT in the FIBA Americas against Puerto Rico.
One of his best games (offensively) with the NT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF7Dh_YpCDE
I swear this nigga runs like Matt Bonner, sloped shoulders & all
SpurPadre
07-29-2016, 05:20 PM
Manu hasn't propped up dude yet on his twitter account.
TheGreatYacht
07-29-2016, 05:27 PM
He's fucking trash, just like any other player that has come out of Argentina
bdictjames
07-29-2016, 06:07 PM
I'm sure Manu's input must have come from this scouting decision. I trust Manu and I trust management. Can't wait for preseason! :)
SAGirl
07-29-2016, 06:24 PM
I think shooting is a plus, but defensive skillset is what will get him on the team. Can't compare that with Bonner since Bonner has no lateral anything lol. Also depends on his counterparts like Livio and how he/they perform to see if Garino is a need/want on final roster.
I definitely agree that the team needs another perimeter defender. Simmons has been lacking and Manu can't. RS numbers are kind to Manu defensively but as we saw in the playoffs Manu just can't at this point. Dion Waiters ate him alive. Dion Waiters, ok!!!!! I think Simmons would have been fouling like crazy in the playoffs though or just simply getting blown. He has a lot to work on defensively, specially if Pop will play Kyle as a stretch 4. At this point our better perimeter defenders after Kawhi are Danny and Kyle. The team needs someone else.
Garino may be able to help, but I really haven't watched him, so I can't say. The other issue is Simmons contract. Unless he makes a development leap through the season, I can't see the Spurs paying a ton for him to remain past this season. He's still around the same level of talent that the team can find among the undrafted and there is also Murray in the team for a slashing guard. Where Simmons needs to improve significantly is defending. If he can't improve in that area I don't see him in the team past this season. Garino can be a nice prospect in case that happens.
Canyonero
07-29-2016, 06:35 PM
He's fucking trash, just like any other player that has come out of Argentina
You'll be buying his jersey soon.
He was the starting sf for the big Argentina team in the last major tournament IIRC. He figures to have a big role in the olympics, so Spurs probably also buying low now in case he has a good tournament.
He seems like a great kid.
Canyonero
07-29-2016, 06:49 PM
nvm
ElNono
07-29-2016, 06:57 PM
He's a very solid 1 on 1 defender, as it has already been said. His stroke is good, but slow release, probably something that can be fixed by Chip. His driving game isn't anything to write home about. He does play hard all the time. He's still raw for the NBA level, but can be basically another Danny Green in a lot ways. Don't be looking for special talent like Gino, but more of a commodity type of player.
Budkin
07-29-2016, 06:59 PM
From the FB page @InfoManu (https://www.facebook.com/InfoManu/?fref=nf)
6 years ago, Patrick Garino, took this photo with manu
He said: "he was a dream, to be near him"
Today I can confirm that they will play in spurs garino
The dream of the kid? ;-)
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13882166_1160910497312900_2735015405144628313_n.jp g?oh=1ea7bae5c109163ae9a0d07e67ac5a38&oe=58193A5C
dabom
07-29-2016, 06:59 PM
He's a very solid 1 on 1 defender, as it has already been said. His stroke is good, but slow release, probably something that can be fixed by Chip. His driving game isn't anything to write home about. He does play hard all the time. He's still raw for the NBA level, but can be basically another Danny Green in a lot ways. Don't be looking for special talent like Gino, but more of a commodity type of player.
The goods. I was tired of the drab analysis by terrible posters. :tu
dabom
07-29-2016, 06:59 PM
He tall as fuck six years ago. :lol
wildbill2u
07-29-2016, 07:15 PM
kinda reminds me of Simmons with his penchant for driving into defenses with good body control to make the layup. Simmons could be great defender if he had better BB sense, but this guy has defensive rep so thats a plus.
Man I wish I could be there for camp pre-season. gonna be some great pressure on these young guys. Should be fun.
ElNono
07-29-2016, 07:29 PM
FWIW, he played for Orlando in the summer league:
http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2016/players/sl_patricio_garino/
ace3g
07-29-2016, 07:29 PM
Undrafted rookie forward Patricio Garino received a rude awakening while playing for the Orlando Magic’s summer-league team.“It’s completely different than the college game,” he told FoxSports.com. “The aggressiveness, the level of competition, is much higher. It’s more intense. They are locked in. Everyone is trying to earn a spot on the team. The intensity is very different.”
But after finding his footing, it was clear the George Washington University-ex was up to the challenge. On the heels of averaging 12.0 points, 3.3 rebounds, 3.3 assists and 2.0 steals in 30.7 minutes over three games, Garino, 23, signed Friday with the Spurs, who are taking a chance on the 6-foot-6, 210-pound Argentine in the hopes he could help stretch the floor as a long-range shooter.
http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Spurs-roster-shaping-continues-with-signing-of-8661128.php?t=b6b9642045c6ed8151&cmpid=twitter-premium
SpurPadre
07-29-2016, 07:31 PM
Intriguing pickup. I'm still waiting for Manu's endorsement, though, tbh.
dabom
07-29-2016, 07:32 PM
Does this guy replace fathead as a 3? Still don't know shit about him.
ElNono
07-29-2016, 07:33 PM
He's not playing against Croatia right now. He flew to San Antonio for the physical and to sign his contract.
SpurPadre
07-29-2016, 07:34 PM
He's not playing against Croatia right now. He flew to San Antonio for the physical and to sign his contract.
What's your take on him, mi amigo?
dabom
07-29-2016, 07:35 PM
What's your take on him, mi amigo?
Does this guy replace fathead as a 3? Still don't know shit about him.
ElNono
UNT Eagles 2016
07-29-2016, 07:37 PM
Excuses, any USA team of any era should beat a couple of Argies, they lost twice and 2004 was far away from 9/11, Marion Iverson Wade Lebron Amare Duncan Jefferson Carmelo thats enough to monkeyball any shitty NT and make them eat crap.
All rookies.
And Amaré was an extremely raw sophomore at that point.
Dicky was already injured goods by that point and Marion was a utility player at best, couldn't shoot nor score 1-on-1.
Try again.
bic50
07-29-2016, 07:37 PM
Sorry. But who?
UNT Eagles 2016
07-29-2016, 07:39 PM
That team with those guys and TD and with AI would have crushed any team that year had they all played, period.
yeah, Lebron/Melo/Wade were all way way wayyyyyyy too young and raw to compete against anybody experienced, even the likes of Puerto Rico.
ElNono
07-29-2016, 07:44 PM
What's your take on him, mi amigo?
He's a very solid 1 on 1 defender, as it has already been said. His stroke is good, but slow release, probably something that can be fixed by Chip. His driving game isn't anything to write home about. He does play hard all the time. He's still raw for the NBA level, but can be basically another Danny Green in a lot ways. Don't be looking for special talent like Gino, but more of a commodity type of player.
SpurPadre
07-29-2016, 07:45 PM
Thanks, overlooked that post. Nothing wrong with another LDN.
Mikeanaro
07-29-2016, 07:57 PM
All rookies.
And Amaré was an extremely raw sophomore at that point.
Dicky was already injured goods by that point and Marion was a utility player at best, couldn't shoot nor score 1-on-1.
Try again.
Thats BS, as I said before MJ and his teammates were 21 years old and won the 1984 Olympics, now according to you they were baby pigeons and couldnt even monkeyball properly at the most athletic time of their lives.
Wow that Argie squad was so much better...
Mikeanaro
07-29-2016, 08:00 PM
Intriguing pickup. I'm still waiting for Manu's endorsement, though, tbh.
Parker was vouching for him, thats why Garino is a Spur.
SpurPadre
07-29-2016, 08:00 PM
Parker was vouching for him, thats why Garino is a Spur.
He must have a hot wife, then.
ElNono
07-29-2016, 09:11 PM
According to the Argentina Confederation site, Garino's contract details are unknown at this time, but what is known is that he will participate in the Spurs' training camp and will play for the Spurs D-League affiliate while trying to earn minutes with the main team.
http://www.cabb.com.ar/web/garino-firmo-con-los-san-antonio-spurs/
dabom
07-29-2016, 09:31 PM
According to the Argentina Confederation site, Garino's contract details are unknown at this time, but what is known is that he will participate in the Spurs' training camp and will play for the Spurs D-League affiliate while trying to earn minutes with the main team.
http://www.cabb.com.ar/web/garino-firmo-con-los-san-antonio-spurs/
Makes it seem like he will be part of the roster after all. Just not in the beggining of the season.
cutewizard
07-29-2016, 09:31 PM
Interesting skillset....good one-on-one defender!
Cool!
ElNono
07-29-2016, 09:38 PM
Makes it seem like he will be part of the roster after all. Just not in the beggining of the season.
Fairly typical Spurs modus operandi, send him to Austin and see if he can excel there for a call up. That way they don't have to lock a roster spot for him early.
He's 23... while young, he's also not that young.
Mikeanaro
07-29-2016, 09:38 PM
He must have a hot wife, then.
Lol, maybe a hot mom...
cutewizard
07-29-2016, 09:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIOd9Ju1k90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We_HKXNk5Gw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MKRxWhOrc0
dabom
07-29-2016, 09:49 PM
cutewizard best girl poster on this board. No competition really. :toast
cutewizard
07-29-2016, 09:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1ooknlQKV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC1g7-A3OKg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LdKjFPHcF4
cutewizard
07-29-2016, 09:56 PM
Interesting player.....
I wouldnt say White Kawhi yet, but how about a poor man's Bruce Bowen, in the making....
Very good defensive instincts, watch this guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7MrH4FyGHU
cutewizard
07-29-2016, 09:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEDOPvEPok8
cutewizard
07-29-2016, 09:58 PM
Or, more correctly, Bonner with defense, wtf!!!!
Hhahaha, omg, we are totally stacked!
SAGirl
07-29-2016, 10:04 PM
Fairly typical Spurs modus operandi, send him to Austin and see if he can excel there for a call up. That way they don't have to lock a roster spot for him early.
He's 23... while young, he's also not that young.
A lot of Austin's recent assigned players have gotten NBA contracts, even if not with the Spurs: J.Eddie, B.Cotton, Simmons (of course!), J.Green, even Orlando Johnson. And Spurs have assigned a lot of young players that have developed successfully too. So he is in a good spot even if the call up doesn't come from the Spurs.
Should be interesting. Camp should help him gain chemistry with Dijon, LJC and everyone else. :tu
dylankerouac
07-29-2016, 11:48 PM
Looking forward to watching him play with he current team. Hopefully he can impress Pop to some extent.
spurtech09
07-30-2016, 12:25 AM
Getting better and better.....Stacked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sean Cagney
07-30-2016, 12:29 AM
yeah, Lebron/Melo/Wade were all way way wayyyyyyy too young and raw to compete against anybody experienced, even the likes of Puerto Rico.
Now don't get me wrong, Wade, Bron and Melo at a later date or 2006-07 versions of them even take the Gold. I agree they were way too raw at that time.
SnakeBoy
07-30-2016, 01:35 AM
He's a very solid 1 on 1 defender, as it has already been said. His stroke is good, but slow release, probably something that can be fixed by Chip. His driving game isn't anything to write home about. He does play hard all the time. He's still raw for the NBA level, but can be basically another Danny Green in a lot ways. Don't be looking for special talent like Gino, but more of a commodity type of player.
Looks dramatically better than DG on the highlight vids posted.
callo1
07-30-2016, 04:41 AM
Interesting...could turn out very well...exciting.
ceperez
07-30-2016, 05:52 AM
Did he just block Draymond Green twice in this play?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LdKjFPHcF4[/QUOTE]
I'm a fan!
cutewizard
07-30-2016, 09:51 AM
Yes!
Raven
07-30-2016, 10:13 AM
very intriguing, what is his wingspan?
TheMulletMan3000
07-30-2016, 10:14 AM
very intriguing, what is his wingspan?
6'10
Raven
07-30-2016, 10:16 AM
6'10
not great, but acceptable
ceperez
07-30-2016, 10:17 AM
not great, but acceptable
30" no step vertical... acceptable.
note: leonard 25.5", green 29"
tholdren
07-30-2016, 10:30 AM
how did this kid do with the magic summer league?
ElNono
07-30-2016, 11:29 AM
Looks dramatically better than DG on the highlight vids posted.
That's not hard, tbh
Obstructed_View
07-30-2016, 11:34 AM
I can't see that happening. It just wouldn't make sense after how he played in Summer League unless Spurs are trying to shop him. Only issue is you can't get a great player back in return for his current price tag unless he is part of a bigger trade. In this cap era, keeping Simmons is a steal based on potential alone for one more year and knowing Spurs' system.
Pop doesn't usually care about how many points you score if you turn the ball over and can't hit open three pointers. So by Pop's standard, Simmons was terrible in summer league. You're right that he has some trade value, because there are other teams that look at the box score and go, "Wow, 29 points!" while ignoring the nine turnovers. I'm not sure that there's a gap the Spurs are going to fill with a trade at this point, but we're back where there's only one roster spot available, and Simmons' departure would make room if there is a second player the Spurs want to have here in his place.
From last month: http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2016/06/30/spurs-to-guarantee-jonathon-simmons-contract/
I could have sworn that right before I saw this thread I'd seen a news article that today was the deadline, not last month. Thank you for catching this.
Obstructed_View
07-30-2016, 11:36 AM
I'm a fan!
Agreed.
Phenomanul
07-30-2016, 12:01 PM
Looking at some of those vids... is Campazzo worth a look? Seems like he has excellent vision and has good-decision making... even if not the most athletic guy in the gym...
ElNono
07-30-2016, 12:08 PM
Looking at some of those vids... is Campazzo worth a look? Seems like he has excellent vision and has good-decision making... even if not the most athletic guy in the gym...
The big question mark with him is his size. He's definitely talented.
Phenomanul
07-30-2016, 12:33 PM
The big question mark with him is his size. He's definitely talented.
Does he have a respectable outside shot?
ElNono
07-30-2016, 12:34 PM
Does he have a respectable outside shot?
He can get hot. But his niche really is energy guy... somebody compared to an slightly undersized JJ Barea, and that's really more or less a fair comparison, IMO
Diego20
07-30-2016, 12:35 PM
Did he just block Draymond Green twice in this play?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LdKjFPHcF4
I'm a fan![/QUOTE]
No, Garino blocked green once, Acuña blocked the second one.
Phenomanul
07-30-2016, 12:38 PM
He can get hot. But his niche really is energy guy... somebody compared to an slightly undersized JJ Barea, and that's really more or less a fair comparison, IMO
Barea was lightning fast tho... or maybe just cause he had to take more steps to run along his taller peers... :lmao
sasaint
07-30-2016, 12:43 PM
He can get hot. But his niche really is energy guy... somebody compared to an slightly undersized JJ Barea, and that's really more or less a fair comparison, IMO
That would make him an undersized Arcidiacono. Pass.
ElNono
07-30-2016, 01:01 PM
That would make him an undersized Arcidiacono. Pass.
He's nothing like Arci (and I like Arci in general). He's literally very, very energetic, not afraid of the moment and talented. It's just that at the NBA level, you would have to hide him on D, not because he's a bad defender, but because there's no way 80% of players couldn't easily shoot over him.
NickiRasgo
07-30-2016, 01:17 PM
If his upside could be like Delfino, I'm good for it. He's 23 right? Saw some video him posted here. Seems serviceable. He also has experience playing in FIBA and now would be Olympics.
Forbes is intriguing as well but Garino seems a better option. Could help also in today's NBA style of game. Also, Manu would be happy about it too.
DPG21920
07-30-2016, 01:19 PM
The video I have seen (which is obviously very limited) he reminds me of Nocioni. He sort of has that athletic but doesn't look athletic body/movement.
NickiRasgo
07-30-2016, 01:22 PM
Yeah. The energy he brings more like Nocioni but his style of play seems like Delfino. Just my observation.
dabom
07-30-2016, 01:28 PM
Pop and RC aren't going to go back to undersized players anymore unless they are immensely talented.
gambit1990
07-30-2016, 02:30 PM
really don't know much about the guy. would take him over LJC though.
sasaint
07-30-2016, 02:31 PM
He's nothing like Arci (and I like Arci in general). He's literally very, very energetic, not afraid of the moment and talented. It's just that at the NBA level, you would have to hide him on D, not because he's a bad defender, but because there's no way 80% of players couldn't easily shoot over him.
Just... No more smurfs.
ceperez
07-30-2016, 02:39 PM
He can get hot. But his niche really is energy guy... somebody compared to an slightly undersized JJ Barea, and that's really more or less a fair comparison, IMO
undersizes JJ Barea? Isn't Barea already 5'10"??? You mean oversized?
I just can't see how he can have the handles or the shooting of Barrea at 6'7". I don't get the comparison.
undersizes JJ Barea? Isn't Barea already 5'10"??? You mean oversized?
I just can't see how he can have the handles or the shooting of Barrea at 6'7". I don't get the comparison.
He's refering to Facundo Campazzo, Argentina's PG.
ceperez
07-30-2016, 02:44 PM
Garino looks like he may have a little bit of spring on him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIJblUu0NJM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC1g7-A3OKg
T Park
07-30-2016, 04:33 PM
According to the Argentina Confederation site, Garino's contract details are unknown at this time, but what is known is that he will participate in the Spurs' training camp and will play for the Spurs D-League affiliate while trying to earn minutes with the main team.
http://www.cabb.com.ar/web/garino-firmo-con-los-san-antonio-spurs/
so maybe Arc Forbes and Garino get waived then head to Austin.
Toros are going to be damn good watching this year.
T Park
07-30-2016, 04:33 PM
The video I have seen (which is obviously very limited) he reminds me of Nocioni. He sort of has that athletic but doesn't look athletic body/movement.
"akward athleticism" is how a guy with the Spurs described Nocioni to me when they were going after him during his glory years in the NBA.
ceperez
07-30-2016, 05:47 PM
Is Bertans any more athletic that Garino?
ceperez
07-30-2016, 05:48 PM
2 years? http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/7/30/12333112/spurs-sign-patricio-garino-to-2-year-deal
kaji157
07-30-2016, 06:28 PM
I don´t get this, isn´t 15 the roster limit for NBA teams, 13 active and 2 inactive or in the NBADL?
BillMc
07-30-2016, 06:33 PM
Man now I don't know if I want Garino or Forbes to make the club.
From Downtown
07-30-2016, 06:34 PM
I don´t get this, isn´t 15 the roster limit for NBA teams, 13 active and 2 inactive or in the NBADL?
Up to 20 for training camp,then has to be cut down to 15 before the opening night
ElNono
07-30-2016, 06:34 PM
I suspect the last roster spot will be basically reserved to rotate guys between the D-League and main team, tbh... based on what the team needs at a given moment.
ElNono
07-30-2016, 06:39 PM
The contracts are important because otherwise another team can come in, call them up from the D-League and sign them up. This way the Spurs have basically the best of both worlds, and on the cheap.
Canyonero
07-30-2016, 06:40 PM
The contracts are important because otherwise another team can come in, call them up from the D-League and sign them up. This way the Spurs have basically the best of both worlds, and on the cheap.
ElMaestro
Snaq O'Meal
07-30-2016, 07:06 PM
Man now I don't know if I want Garino or Forbes to make the club.
I bet Garino will make the cut. In addition to his 3-point shooting, they will need his size and defensive versatility to match up against GSW. Last season, the Warriors did a great job in making defensive liabilities like Parker and Mills completely unplayable.
cutewizard
07-30-2016, 09:06 PM
A small ball line-up of Lamarcus, Kawhi, Green, Garino and either Manu or Kyle at point could be a defensive menace! hmmmm.......
kobyz
07-31-2016, 03:37 AM
Looks too small to play the three...
NickiRasgo
07-31-2016, 06:52 AM
Looks too small to play the three...
6'7" for SF is too small? :lol
kobyz
07-31-2016, 08:41 AM
6'7" for SF is too small? :lol
Not sure that true, looks two inches less compare to Nucioni...
NickiRasgo
07-31-2016, 08:52 AM
Not sure that true, looks two inches less compare to Nucioni...
With today's game, height really (somehow) not a big deal anymore. I'm speaking about the position 2-4.
If he can translate his game based from the video highlights to the NBA, I'm really really sold.
Really hoping he could translate it. I can see a game of Delfino-Nocioni in him which I really liked.
Chinook
07-31-2016, 09:21 AM
I've read that the average NBA SF is 6-6 in shoes. There is no legitimate argument that Garino is too small.
ceperez
07-31-2016, 10:53 AM
I've read that the average NBA SF is 6-6 in shoes. There is no legitimate argument that Garino is too small.
Leonard is 6'6" without shoes. Garino is also 6'6" without shoes. The difference is Leonard has a 7'3" wingspan, Garino has 6'10" wingspan.
Danny Green is shorter, but with same wingspan at 6'10".
Kyle Anderson is 6'7.5" without shoes with a 7'2.5" wingspan.
So just on these numbers, I think Garino should be able to play SF.
Draymond Green is 6'5.5" tall and 7'1" wingspan... honestly Garino physicals check out to be okay in today's game.
spurs10
07-31-2016, 11:24 AM
Question is where do all the new guys fit. Good to see some size on some of these guys. LJC, Bertans, and Garino aren't all going to be 3rd string SFs. I see LJC at the 4. Bertans and Garino look like they could be wing players that drift between 2 & 3. Simmons is going to have some competition at camp.
ceperez
07-31-2016, 04:54 PM
I think Garino like Bertans will be ready to play. Garino has exposure to high level international competition which is very different from guys like LJC, Murray and Forbes.
I would say that assuming he makes the team (which is bad news for Forbes and Arcidiacono) is that he'll be in the regular 13 man rotation with both Murray and LJC spending time in Austin.
I expect the following 13 man roster:
Parker/Mills/Simmons
Green/Manu/Garino
Leonard/Anderson/Bertans
Aldridge/Lee
Pau/Dedmon
Murray and LJC are spending time in Austin.
Looking forward to human cigar play with Anderson, Simmons, Garino, Bertans and Lee.
I wonder though what PATFO to sign Garino. They must have saw something in international play.
Canyonero
07-31-2016, 05:47 PM
I wonder though what PATFO to sign Garino. They must have saw something in international play.
Manu scouting + Pop got to see him play against USA.
ElNono
07-31-2016, 06:00 PM
I wonder though what PATFO to sign Garino. They must have saw something in international play.
I'm sure they had him on their radar a while ago, but word is what triggered it was Pop watching the Team USA vs Argentina friendly a week ago, where he played.
ceperez
07-31-2016, 06:41 PM
I'm sure they had him on their radar a while ago, but word is what triggered it was Pop watching the Team USA vs Argentina friendly a week ago, where he played.
What I don't get though is that Spurs could have evaluated him early like they did Forbes and Arcidacono. Did they have to see him play against team USA?
ElNono
07-31-2016, 06:47 PM
What I don't get though is that Spurs could have evaluated him early like they did Forbes and Arcidacono. Did they have to see him play against team USA?
I guess they wanted to see him compete against actual NBA players, hard to know... like I said, I would be surprised if the Spurs didn't have him in their radar prior to that game.
ceperez
07-31-2016, 06:50 PM
I guess they wanted to see him compete against actual NBA players, hard to know... like I said, I would be surprised if the Spurs didn't have him in their radar prior to that game.
Some Garino highights against team USA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1qk-xnf-YU
Not bad against all-star players!!
He's got length and some spring to actually contest shots.
eDizzle20
07-31-2016, 10:29 PM
No question he plays with great effort, especially on d. The backup SF is very much up for grabs and KA has not shown to be consistent when it counts. Very excited to see him in the preseason. He may get that 15th roster spot. Hopefully it will be him or Forbes.
YGWHI
08-01-2016, 12:31 AM
RS numbers are kind to Manu defensively but as we saw in the playoffs Manu just can't at this point. Dion Waiters ate him alive. Dion Waiters, ok!!!!! I think Simmons would have been fouling like crazy in the playoffs though or just simply getting blown. He has a lot to work on defensively, specially if Pop will play Kyle as a stretch 4. At this point our better perimeter defenders after Kawhi are Danny and Kyle. The team needs someone else.
Do you really think it will change? Pop had the opportunity to play Danny more minutes in a crucial Durant/Westbrook matchup and opted to give Manu tough defensive assignaments even when he couldn't hold his own against any OKC guard in the series.
Pop'll still rely on Manu a lot in playoffs instead of giving Kawhi/Danny/Kyle/Simms more minutes, he'll put Manu to defend faster/younger guards, and the results will be the same...Sometimes it seems like Pop doesn't realize how much Parker/Manu have aged.
ElNono
08-01-2016, 12:53 AM
What incensed me about Pop wasn't that he put Manu on Dion Waiters. It's that he put Manu for long stretches against Westbrook. You can pretty much find the reason I started the "Pop has officially lost it" (or whatever it was called) thread on that decision alone. I'm not even sure Danny can check Westbrook consistently, but one thing I know for sure, Manu sure as hell cannot at 38 years old.
But this also goes along another line where the Spurs (or Pop) have been really lacking: other teams are not afraid to play their youngster stars longer minutes. I can't remember a game where OKC didn't play one of Durant or Westbrook with their bench. And Pop would stick to playing just the bench, despite that we had younger legs to throw out there and match up. That was understandable back in 2012 or 2013, when Kawhi and Danny were a little more raw, we had an old duncan instead of 30 year old Lamarcus, and it probably always makes sense in the regular season, to save some legs. But in the playoffs, you can't let such obvious mismatches go for long, especially game after game, it was really maddening, tbh...
SAGirl
08-01-2016, 03:31 AM
What incensed me about Pop wasn't that he put Manu on Dion Waiters. It's that he put Manu for long stretches against Westbrook. You can pretty much find the reason I started the "Pop has officially lost it" (or whatever it was called) thread on that decision alone. I'm not even sure Danny can check Westbrook consistently, but one thing I know for sure, Manu sure as hell cannot at 38 years old.
But this also goes along another line where the Spurs (or Pop) have been really lacking: other teams are not afraid to play their youngster stars longer minutes. I can't remember a game where OKC didn't play one of Durant or Westbrook with their bench. And Pop would stick to playing just the bench, despite that we had younger legs to throw out there and match up. That was understandable back in 2012 or 2013, when Kawhi and Danny were a little more raw, we had an old duncan instead of 30 year old Lamarcus, and it probably always makes sense in the regular season, to save some legs. But in the playoffs, you can't let such obvious mismatches go for long, especially game after game, it was really maddening, tbh...
Durant or Westbrook had it relatively easy on defense bc their bigs and Roberson took the two Spurs stars on while Durant and Russ rested guarding Tony and Danny. This past version of the team didn't have anything or anyone else to throw at OKC. Kawhi and LMA didn't get set up and played a very demanding style based on physically dominating guys in the post who are strong and overwhelming defensive specialists, while they also had to do everything on the other end bc the team was physically overwhelmed boarding, boxing out or checking Russ, Durant, and Adams.
Not to justify Pop bc I do think there's a lot he could have done, but Kawhi and LMA burden in that series was inhuman. Aside from the defensive burden on both, almost no one could pitch in offensively to give a breather. (Danny had a good series overall but he's the recipient of plays and Tony only had 2-3 good games and he doesn't give anything defensively.)
Kawhi wasn't resting until the 4th Q on defense like LeBron does. His style is not as light as Curry who runs off a pick and off the shot goes. It's a very different style and a different demand placed on him. Truth be told Pop maybe didn't want to have to do what he did but he had to.
The bench had so many problems with their bigs anyways that Kawhi wasn't going to single handedly fix it. It was too much and maybe Pop gambled and took a risk that he thought gave the team the best chance because it gave Kawhi and LMA the best chance to have enough energy to close those games out.
I do think there are other things Pop could have done but they involved guys Pop had not trusted in the crux of games through the season, and even less against the elite teams, thus those guys weren't ready. Pop lived and died with the team that got them there.
kaji157
08-01-2016, 08:49 AM
Durant or Westbrook had it relatively easy on defense bc their bigs and Roberson took the two Spurs stars on while Durant and Russ rested guarding Tony and Danny. This past version of the team didn't have anything or anyone else to throw at OKC. Kawhi and LMA didn't get set up and played a very demanding style based on physically dominating guys in the post who are strong and overwhelming defensive specialists, while they also had to do everything on the other end bc the team was physically overwhelmed boarding, boxing out or checking Russ, Durant, and Adams.
Not to justify Pop bc I do think there's a lot he could have done, but Kawhi and LMA burden in that series was inhuman. Aside from the defensive burden on both, almost no one could pitch in offensively to give a breather. (Danny had a good series overall but he's the recipient of plays and Tony only had 2-3 good games and he doesn't give anything defensively.)
Kawhi wasn't resting until the 4th Q on defense like LeBron does. His style is not as light as Curry who runs off a pick and off the shot goes. It's a very different style and a different demand placed on him. Truth be told Pop maybe didn't want to have to do what he did but he had to.
The bench had so many problems with their bigs anyways that Kawhi wasn't going to single handedly fix it. It was too much and maybe Pop gambled and took a risk that he thought gave the team the best chance because it gave Kawhi and LMA the best chance to have enough energy to close those games out.
I do think there are other things Pop could have done but they involved guys Pop had not trusted in the crux of games through the season, and even less against the elite teams, thus those guys weren't ready. Pop lived and died with the team that got them there.
To you and Nono, while i agree putting Manu on Westbrooks is what really embarrassed him, it´s important to notice that in 5 of the six games the Spurs had the chance to close it to their favor. They closed all games with Kawhi and LMA on court and they did not deliver despite the fact that they were playing almost 10 less minutes than their counterparts from OKC.
So, in retrospect, the idea was not all bad, as the Spurs entered the last minutes of each games with a rest advantage, just failed to capitalise more than they suceded.
I would also agree that the bench could not get the usual advantage they usually got because they were matched against a very strong front line exposing the weakest link n ours. We payed a lot for not easing Boban into the lineup as we had to play him sparingly.
buttsR4rebounding
08-01-2016, 11:20 AM
Cant figure that out just yet bu doing it by position maybe a little easier by looking at if a starter misses exstensive games is his back up good enough to start and do we have a backup for him to start with second unit?
Pg. Parker, Mills, DM, ARCi?? - I am ok with this position I think best time to get DM minutes is early in the season to give Tony some rest and teams are still needing to jell so easier for new guys. I like ARCi I just think we have other needs
SG. Green, Manu, Mills, FORBES? This is a little more interesting if Forbes can show he can keep lighting it up and plays decent defense he has a shot.
SF. Kawhi, Andeson, Simmons, GARINO? I think this is one if our chink in the armor is if Kawhi is missing games
can we win 8 to 15 with his backup starting? Like Forbes I think Gariono
has a legit chance as he can play two positions
PF. Aldrige, Lee, Bertans, LIVIO? I like Lee pickup but I am not sold that Bertans can play the 4 for exstensive time don't get me wrong I think he is going to be the talk of the town starting next year. As far as Livio he is the mystery man from watching him in summer league he is assured a place on the D-league team. I really like Nnoko I know it's only one game but he was playing great defense and is very athletic and very young. Hope he get an invite
C. Paul, Dedman, ?? Biggest issue to me is Center as Dedman is still a newbie to
the game.
I don't think Bertans will get time at the 4. Just because he is tall doesn't mean he's a 4. He is a 3 in most line ups. Anderson will get time at the 4. IMHO he will get time there before David Lee. I see Lee as our 5th big right now. At center, Aldridge will get some time. I doubt we see LJC on the big team except in the case of injury. I think Anderson will be the key to just how productive the bench will be. If he doesn't have a significant increase in his scoring average the bench will have trouble scoring.
poeticism707
08-01-2016, 04:41 PM
He must have a hot wife, then.
:rollin :rollin :rollin
poeticism707
08-01-2016, 04:44 PM
Looks dramatically better than DG on the highlight vids posted.
:rollin :rollin :rollin
poeticism707
08-01-2016, 04:47 PM
The video I have seen (which is obviously very limited) he reminds me of Nocioni. He sort of has that athletic but doesn't look athletic body/movement.
This.
poeticism707
08-01-2016, 04:50 PM
Leonard is 6'6" without shoes. Garino is also 6'6" without shoes. The difference is Leonard has a 7'3" wingspan, Garino has 6'10" wingspan.
Danny Green is shorter, but with same wingspan at 6'10".
Kyle Anderson is 6'7.5" without shoes with a 7'2.5" wingspan.
So just on these numbers, I think Garino should be able to play SF.
Draymond Green is 6'5.5" tall and 7'1" wingspan... honestly Garino physicals check out to be okay in today's game.
This.
Kawhitstorm
08-01-2016, 05:50 PM
Leonard is 6'6" without shoes. Garino is also 6'6" without shoes. The difference is Leonard has a 7'3" wingspan, Garino has 6'10" wingspan.
Danny Green is shorter, but with same wingspan at 6'10".
Kyle Anderson is 6'7.5" without shoes with a 7'2.5" wingspan.
So just on these numbers, I think Garino should be able to play SF.
Draymond Green is 6'5.5" tall and 7'1" wingspan... honestly Garino physicals check out to be okay in today's game.
Garino is built like Defino & has a similar game.
5BXN2uiPvEI
gambit1990
08-01-2016, 05:54 PM
Garino is built like Defino & has a similar game.
reminds me more of nocioni.
Kawhitstorm
08-01-2016, 05:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1qk-xnf-YU
He's got length and some spring to actually contest shots.
VIJblUu0NJM
Kawhitstorm
08-01-2016, 06:00 PM
reminds me more of nocioni.
Nocioni was an excellent rebounder for his position & a very physical player.
Canyonero
08-01-2016, 06:43 PM
Delfinocioni then.
r0drig0lac
08-01-2016, 07:02 PM
Garino starter vs France
http://www.sintelevisor.com/tv/directvsports.html
ace3g
08-01-2016, 07:11 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/705821000265547776/E9x-JiQh_bigger.jpg CABB Verified account @cabboficial (https://twitter.com/cabboficial)
Laprovittola, Ginóbili, Garino, Scola y Acuña, titulares contra Francia. Link para estadísticas http://www.fibalivestats.com/u/SLF/308580/ (https://t.co/RWWZvRF7RK)
DAF86
08-01-2016, 07:22 PM
Garino is built like Defino & has a similar game.
5BXN2uiPvEI
Nah, Delfino has always been a scorer. Garino has never been nor he will ever be one. The Nocioni comparisson is the fairest one. Although I don't think Garino will be as good.
DAF86
08-01-2016, 07:23 PM
Nocioni was an excellent rebounder for his position & a very physical player.
So is Garino.
ElNono
08-01-2016, 08:24 PM
Nah, Delfino has always been a scorer. Garino has never been nor he will ever be one. The Nocioni comparisson is the fairest one. Although I don't think Garino will be as good.
Definitely. Plus Delfino is/was a much more polished driver and finisher. Also, Delfino main defensive asset was quick hands, Garino is more of a built-tough, good footwork defensive player.
ace3g
08-01-2016, 08:39 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3611020926/1c288811c3bc4799af324e09268547f9_bigger.jpeg Eric Pincus Verified account @EricPincus (https://twitter.com/EricPincus)
Added Patricio Garino's 2-yr min $1.4 mil contract, $100k guaranteed to San Antonio Spurs @BBallInsiders (https://twitter.com/BBallInsiders)
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/
tholdren
08-01-2016, 08:49 PM
Leonard is 6'6" without shoes. Garino is also 6'6" without shoes. The difference is Leonard has a 7'3" wingspan, Garino has 6'10" wingspan.
Danny Green is shorter, but with same wingspan at 6'10".
Kyle Anderson is 6'7.5" without shoes with a 7'2.5" wingspan.
So just on these numbers, I think Garino should be able to play SF.
Draymond Green is 6'5.5" tall and 7'1" wingspan... honestly Garino physicals check out to be okay in today's game.
wtf - senseless as the 40yd in nfl.
From Downtown
08-01-2016, 08:57 PM
Played quite well tonight against France (Manu too)
His greatest asset is clearly defense, but he can also shoot the 3/cut nicely on offense, I like the signing and can't wait to see what he does in the preseason
ElNono
08-01-2016, 08:58 PM
Played quite well tonight against France (Manu too)
His greatest asset is clearly defense, but he can also shoot the 3/cut nicely on offense, I like the signing and can't wait to see what he does in the preseason
Wish we could get Delfino for two years, tbh... he looks so damn good after basically not playing for 3 years... wonder what his rights situation is on the NBA...
ace3g
08-01-2016, 09:01 PM
can anyone translate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uH16dBZsFU
Diego20
08-01-2016, 09:10 PM
Delfino and Nocioni to the Spurs pls
:cry
ace3g
08-01-2016, 09:12 PM
I think the last best chance for Nocioni to join the Spurs was when they reportedly talked to him after they cut SJAX.
Mikeanaro
08-01-2016, 09:25 PM
can anyone translate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uH16dBZsFU
To resume, he says he is happy with the Cordoba experience, now that he has the NT and Spurs is he nervous? he said that its better to not think too much about it.
About not making it to the draft... he felt a bit disappointed at the beginning but at the same time he thinks it could be a positive thing because by being undrafted he was able to be on any team and thats how the Spurs deal came.
Had expectations about some team being interested in him before the olympics? He said he was sure some deal was gonna happen.
He also heard about Spurs rumors at the Dallas airport and said Spurs are the perfect team for his game and wants to try his best no matter its the D-League or SA to win Pop´s trust.
ElNono
08-01-2016, 09:36 PM
can anyone translate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uH16dBZsFU
Q:Tell me what's been happening to you in the last 20 or so days.
PG: A lot of things. A lot of different situations, the draft, the summer league, the national team. Now in the last two days, a lot of things in my mind, but happy, very happy to be living this dream.
... <couple of questions about the current NT tournament omitted>...
Q: You're headed to the NBA, just signed a contract, how do you deal with all that?
PG: You have to be calm, I try not to overthink what's going on. It's a step by step approach, something came up with the Spurs right in the middle of this, I enjoyed it greatly, but now I'm back here with my mind on Rio.
Q: Tell me what went through your mind when you couldn't enter the draft. Did you think your chances were drifting away from you, did it disappoint you?
PG: There was certainly some disappointment early, definitely hit me a bit, but at the end of the day, that might've actually been positive for me, since I was basically a free agent to talk to any team, and now this possibility opened up for me.
Q: How much do you think your play in the Summer League had to do with all this?
PG: I suppose quite a bit, I did good there, it helped my game, and that's when I realized that probably would open some doors for me.
Q: Were you expectant that perhaps a team would call before the Olympic Games?
PG: I don't know about expectations, but I never lost hope that I would get this opportunity at some point, before the Olympic games, during or after. I was confident that some doors were open, and something was going to work out.
Q: At what point did you hear the magical word: "Spurs"
PG: At the Dallas airport, I received that information, which went somewhat unnoticed for a while.
Q: Is this more than what you dreamed of?
PG: I don't know about more, it's just a great situation, that franchise is probably a great mold for me as a player, and I really didn't think twice about it.
Q: Why the Spurs?
PG: Well, Manu mentioned something early, but nothing official, and then my US agent called me and told me about the offer.
Q: Do you know what your role is going to be?
PG: First thing is to earn the trust of the coaching staff, and the franchise. It's my first professional contract, the first time I'm going to be playing for a professional team, so I have to earn their trust and do things as best possible.
Q: Are there chances that you're going to start off from the D-League or that you could make the main team?
PG: Both. There's still a spot open on the team, or maybe I'll go to the D-League, but either of those opportunities are important.
ElNono
08-01-2016, 09:39 PM
IOW, what Mikeanaro said...
ace3g
08-01-2016, 09:41 PM
^ Thanks Mikeanaro (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=44789) and ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054)
Mikeanaro
08-01-2016, 10:06 PM
IOW, what Mikeanaro said...
You were extremely detailed... but you forgot about Cordoba :cry :cry :cry
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XEh0s81j9uE/TZgH0q78FvI/AAAAAAAAAIQ/aALhgsrgQro/s1600
By the way, I saw most of the Oberto´s tribute but since I was talking I missed some important parts, who said Fabricio was the best player ever?
ElNono
08-01-2016, 10:15 PM
You were extremely detailed... but you forgot about Cordoba :cry :cry :cry
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XEh0s81j9uE/TZgH0q78FvI/AAAAAAAAAIQ/aALhgsrgQro/s1600
By the way, I saw most of the Oberto´s tribute but since I was talking I missed some important parts, who said Fabricio was the best player ever?
Actually, it was "the worst best player ever", but it really was: "He's the ugliest productive player I've ever been around,"
http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_wires/2006Nov09/0,4675,BKNSunsSpurs,00.html
Mikeanaro
08-01-2016, 10:51 PM
Actually, it was "the worst best player ever", but it really was: "He's the ugliest productive player I've ever been around,"
http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_wires/2006Nov09/0,4675,BKNSunsSpurs,00.html
Oh they were quoting what Pop said long time ago then, missed the Peor part
Here is the video in case someone missed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xqBvrp00BE
kobyz
08-02-2016, 02:23 AM
Remind me Keith Bogans...
ceperez
08-02-2016, 04:24 AM
Q:Tell me what's been happening to you in the last 20 or so days.
PG: A lot of things. A lot of different situations, the draft, the summer league, the national team. Now in the last two days, a lot of things in my mind, but happy, very happy to be living this dream.
... <couple of questions about the current NT tournament omitted>...
Q: You're headed to the NBA, just signed a contract, how do you deal with all that?
PG: You have to be calm, I try not to overthink what's going on. It's a step by step approach, something came up with the Spurs right in the middle of this, I enjoyed it greatly, but now I'm back here with my mind on Rio.
Q: Tell me what went through your mind when you couldn't enter the draft. Did you think your chances were drifting away from you, did it disappoint you?
PG: There was certainly some disappointment early, definitely hit me a bit, but at the end of the day, that might've actually been positive for me, since I was basically a free agent to talk to any team, and now this possibility opened up for me.
Q: How much do you think your play in the Summer League had to do with all this?
PG: I suppose quite a bit, I did good there, it helped my game, and that's when I realized that probably would open some doors for me.
Q: Were you expectant that perhaps a team would call before the Olympic Games?
PG: I don't know about expectations, but I never lost hope that I would get this opportunity at some point, before the Olympic games, during or after. I was confident that some doors were open, and something was going to work out.
Q: At what point did you hear the magical word: "Spurs"
PG: At the Dallas airport, I received that information, which went somewhat unnoticed for a while.
Q: Is this more than what you dreamed of?
PG: I don't know about more, it's just a great situation, that franchise is probably a great mold for me as a player, and I really didn't think twice about it.
Q: Why the Spurs?
PG: Well, Manu mentioned something early, but nothing official, and then my US agent called me and told me about the offer.
Q: Do you know what your role is going to be?
PG: First thing is to earn the trust of the coaching staff, and the franchise. It's my first professional contract, the first time I'm going to be playing for a professional team, so I have to earn their trust and do things as best possible.
Q: Are there chances that you're going to start off from the D-League or that you could make the main team?
PG: Both. There's still a spot open on the team, or maybe I'll go to the D-League, but either of those opportunities are important.
Well said. Comfortable playing in the D-league to improve his game. Also interesting how he says summer league improved his game. I guess the college game must be so much less competitive than even Summer League. If that's so, no wonder so many college players become busts in the NBA, they all need a couple of years of seasoning in the pros.
Brazil
08-02-2016, 09:42 AM
You were extremely detailed... but you forgot about Cordoba :cry :cry :cry
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XEh0s81j9uE/TZgH0q78FvI/AAAAAAAAAIQ/aALhgsrgQro/s1600
By the way, I saw most of the Oberto´s tribute but since I was talking I missed some important parts, who said Fabricio was the best player ever?
Dat Fernet Branca :lol dat some highly concentrate of bitterness... dear god. I had to pour 2 cocas in it so I could actually drink it...
Canyonero
08-02-2016, 10:58 AM
Dat Fernet Branca :lol dat some highly concentrate of bitterness... dear god. I had to pour 2 cocas in it so I could actually drink it...
Fernet is an acquired taste tbh
DAF86
08-02-2016, 11:37 AM
I used to like Fernet. Now I can't stand it.
Brazil
08-02-2016, 11:52 AM
Fernet is an acquired taste tbh
it requires dedication and effort... :lol I'm too old for that
Canyonero
08-02-2016, 12:18 PM
it requires dedication and effort... :lol I'm too old for that
Legend says that Argentina saved Branca from bankruptcy
Obstructed_View
08-02-2016, 01:38 PM
From last month: http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2016/06/30/spurs-to-guarantee-jonathon-simmons-contract/
http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/spurs-jonathon-simmons-contract-guaranteed-for-2016-17-season/
I wasn't actually going crazy.
Kawhitstorm
08-02-2016, 01:45 PM
Nah, Delfino has always been a scorer. Garino has never been nor he will ever be one. The Nocioni comparisson is the fairest one. Although I don't think Garino will be as good.
Delfino as a rotation player in the NBA has attempted MORE than 50% of his shots from 3 & driven when he got run off the line. He has basically been Ariza in a Rockets uniform status with a LOWER FT rate which is far from being regarded as a scorer.:lol
Garino is basically going to be asked to be a 3 & D guy who can actually dribble-drive unlike Danny.:lol
I guess you could say he would be the 2-guard version of Nocioni otherwise dude weighs 203 (lighter than 21 yr old Klay) so he can't play the same role as a hybrid forward.
Chinook
08-02-2016, 01:51 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/spurs-jonathon-simmons-contract-guaranteed-for-2016-17-season/
I wasn't actually going crazy.
The difference is that the Spurs told Simmons they would guarantee his contract and June, whereas last weekend, the deadline for them to change their minds passed.
Mikeanaro
08-02-2016, 01:51 PM
Dat Fernet Branca :lol dat some highly concentrate of bitterness... dear god. I had to pour 2 cocas in it so I could actually drink it...
Thats what most people do here because its bitter and alcohol strong, fernet + cola = fernando... of course you must use the original coca or maybe a pepsi,
not some cheap knock off like this one.
http://www.maxiconsumo.com/media/catalog/product/cache/42/image/300x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/1/11005_9.jpg
Not horrible but not great either.
DAF86
08-02-2016, 01:53 PM
Delfino as a rotation player in the NBA has attempted MORE than 50% of his shots from 3 & driven when he got run off the line. He has basically been Ariza in a Rockets uniform status with a LOWER FT rate which is far from being regarded as a scorer.:lol
Garino is basically going to be asked to do the same as Delfino in the NBA as a 3 & D guy who can actually dribble-drive unlike Danny.:lol
I guess you could say he would be the 2-guard version of Nocioni otherwise dude weighs 203 (lighter than 21 yr old Klay) so he can't play the same role as a hybrid forward.
Delfino could do much more things on the offensive end of the floor. He could go one on one when needed, shoot off the drible, he was pretty good as the ball handler on the pick and roll too. Not saying Garino isn't capable of doing all those things, but he certainly isn't on the same level as Delfino in those aspects of the game.
Garino is more of a blue-collar guy, that plays tough, goes for rebounds, goes for blocks and plays bigger than he is. Also, I know he's listed at 6'6'', but imho he's 6'7''. At least, to me, he appears to be significantly bigger than Manu.
Brazil
08-02-2016, 02:37 PM
Thats what most people do here because its bitter and alcohol strong, fernet + cola = fernando... of course you must use the original coca or maybe a pepsi,
not some cheap knock off like this one.
http://www.maxiconsumo.com/media/catalog/product/cache/42/image/300x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/1/11005_9.jpg
Not horrible but not great either.
I tried it dry but could not drink it so I did what other people were doing i.e drinking it with coca like a cuba libre... I started to enjoy with the proportion of 1/4th of fernet and 3/4th of coca... I had never tasted something that bitter... wow
Obstructed_View
08-02-2016, 03:41 PM
The difference is that the Spurs told Simmons they would guarantee his contract and June, whereas last weekend, the deadline for them to change their minds passed.
Yeah, they wouldn't go back on their word, but it sure would have been nice if they'd left the door open to be able to free up his roster spot.
SAGirl
08-02-2016, 04:14 PM
A translation from an interview by Garino I dug up from teh comments section in Pounding the Rock: http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/7/30/12333112/spurs-sign-patricio-garino-to-2-year-deal#comments http://www.ole.com.ar/basquet/garino-feliz-por-su-presente_0_1624037717.html
At first, I thought all was a joke by Manu. But Pop’s interest was huge. I had plans with Orlando and Brooklyn seemed to be interested too, but then the Spurs showed up and that was unique."
- "Pop was honest with me. He said he hadn’t seen me play much, but many of their scouts had been following me for some time. Then he saw me play against USA and he went to talk with Manu about me. He told me everything Manu told him about me and that many things seemed to fall in place for the profile they were looking for. He said he likes the way I defend, that’s something I have already incorporated into my game, while most of the time Pop has to emphasize that to other players. He also likes the way I move off the ball and my shooting mechanics"
- About the preseason: "I will try to gain their confidence, and they will decide what to do with me. I might do it pretty well, but I’m going to represent the franchise and help the team in whatever they might need, either with the NBA team or playing in the D-League. And I’m definitely going there to learn and grow up."
Apparently, the Spurs have been scouting him since 2009, when he played in the U-16 Panam Tournament.
A translation from an interview by Garino I dug up from teh comments section in Pounding the Rock: http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/7/30/12333112/spurs-sign-patricio-garino-to-2-year-deal#comments http://www.ole.com.ar/basquet/garino-feliz-por-su-presente_0_1624037717.html
Good stuff
DAF86
08-02-2016, 06:45 PM
I tried it dry but could not drink it so I did what other people were doing i.e drinking it with coca like a cuba libre... I started to enjoy with the proportion of 1/4th of fernet and 3/4th of coca... I had never tasted something that bitter... wow
Well, no shit you didn't like it son. :lol
You have to drink that shit with a glass full of ice, 18% of Fernet (only Branca) and 82% of Coke (none of that pepsi shit).
Canyonero
08-02-2016, 07:24 PM
Thats what most people do here because its bitter and alcohol strong, fernet + cola = fernando... of course you must use the original coca or maybe a pepsi,
not some cheap knock off like this one.
http://www.maxiconsumo.com/media/catalog/product/cache/42/image/300x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/1/11005_9.jpg
Not horrible but not great either.
I lost the count of how many empty Fernandito bottles I've seen morning after morning while coming home.
Mikeanaro
08-02-2016, 07:41 PM
I lost the count of how many empty Fernandito bottles I've seen morning after morning while coming home.
Lol, it must be from those who drink before entering the ¨boliche¨ how they called that? ¨previa¨?
I always thought that was cheap but now seeing how our economy is sinking I totally understand previas.
Canyonero
08-02-2016, 07:47 PM
Lol, it must be from those who drink before entering the ¨boliche¨ how they called that? ¨previa¨?
I always thought that was cheap but now seeing how our economy is sinking I totally understand previas.
Previas >>> boliches
ElNono
08-02-2016, 08:01 PM
Previas >>> boliches
fuck yeah, me tomaba un carton de vino toro antes de ir a Cinema, La France... otro boliche en Belgrano que ni me acuerdo como se llamaba... en Gesell tambien, un desastre...
ace3g
08-02-2016, 08:39 PM
http://i.cdn.turner.com/drp/nba/warriors/sites/default/files/20160722-green2.jpg
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Patricio+Garino+Argentina+v+United+States+7LKrQG1b pYql.jpg
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/klay-thompson-of-the-united-states-drives-against-patricio-garino-of-picture-id579361194
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/29/files/2016/07/patricio-garino-deandre-jordan-basketball-usa-basketball-exhibition-game-argentina-usa-850x560.jpg
tonight...you
08-02-2016, 08:43 PM
I totally dig this kid. I hope he shows Pop things during camp. Gotta keep that Argentine talent pipeline going...
DAF86
08-02-2016, 09:41 PM
Lol, it must be from those who drink before entering the ¨boliche¨ how they called that? ¨previa¨?
I always thought that was cheap but now seeing how our economy is sinking I totally understand previas.
Fuck you talking about son? Previas are the shit. Many times it ends up being the highlight of the night.
Mikeanaro
08-02-2016, 09:49 PM
Fuck you talking about son? Previas are the shit. Many times it ends up being the highlight of the night.
Lol nothing wrong about that tbh, its just Im not a boliche guy.
Mikeanaro
08-02-2016, 09:49 PM
Klay is already loving Garino´s junk.
Snaq O'Meal
08-02-2016, 09:56 PM
Klay is already loving Garino´s junk.
It's a recurring theme among Gay Area players.
Spurtacular
08-02-2016, 10:12 PM
Whose PG's agent? Guessing we're just trying to get on his good side; cos this guy sucks (based on the 20 seconds of video I watched).
ElNono
08-02-2016, 10:29 PM
Whose PG's agent? Guessing we're just trying to get on his good side; cos this guy sucks (based on the 20 seconds of video I watched).
I wasn't sure about Garino until this post, tbh... now I think he might actually survive training camp... :lol
SAGirl
08-02-2016, 10:37 PM
I wasn't sure about Garino until this post, tbh... now I think he might actually survive training camp... :lol
:lol good one Nono. :toast
All I care about is that he has a reputation for some grit defensively personally, but since he got on JimmerLover thornside, he must have some chance! :lol
Spurtacular
08-03-2016, 12:04 AM
I wasn't sure about Garino until this post, tbh... now I think he might actually survive training camp... :lol
I'd take Bonner over him.
spurtech09
08-03-2016, 12:07 AM
I'd take Bonner over him.
Your joking right?
Spurtacular
08-03-2016, 05:47 AM
Your joking right?
Bonner's a real NBA player. This guy's a practice squad player.
Brazil
08-03-2016, 07:12 AM
Well, no shit you didn't like it son. :lol
You have to drink that shit with a glass full of ice, 18% of Fernet (only Branca) and 82% of Coke (none of that pepsi shit).
:lol tbh...
Canyonero
08-03-2016, 09:11 AM
fuck yeah, me tomaba un carton de vino toro antes de ir a Cinema, La France... otro boliche en Belgrano que ni me acuerdo como se llamaba... en Gesell tambien, un desastre...
:wow
fuck yeah, me tomaba un carton de vino toro antes de ir a Cinema, La France... otro boliche en Belgrano que ni me acuerdo como se llamaba... en Gesell tambien, un desastre...
Nono careta! Ibas a boliches chetos!
Compensaste con el vino toro :lol (Yo le daba al Mariposa, 8 Hermanos...)
Debemos tener mas o menos la misma edad :bobo
ElNono
08-03-2016, 01:34 PM
Nono careta! Ibas a boliches chetos!
Compensaste con el vino toro :lol (Yo le daba al Mariposa, 8 Hermanos...)
Debemos tener mas o menos la misma edad :bobo
En esa epoca casi no habia cumbia o electronica, pasaban GNR o Joan Jett en esos boliches... pero si, tbh, el grupo con el que andabamos era careton careton...
Canyonero
08-03-2016, 05:08 PM
En esa epoca casi no habia cumbia o electronica, pasaban GNR o Joan Jett en esos boliches... pero si, tbh, el grupo con el que andabamos era careton careton...
Levantabas hablando de basquet?
kuato
08-03-2016, 05:37 PM
Levantabas hablando de basquet?
¿Cómo pasó el tema de Pato Garino a técnicas de levante del siglo pasado?
Mikeanaro
08-03-2016, 05:43 PM
¿Cómo pasó el tema de Pato Garino a técnicas de levante del siglo pasado?
Fue el ¨chamuyo¨.
Canyonero
08-03-2016, 05:50 PM
¿Cómo pasó el tema de Pato Garino a técnicas de levante del siglo pasado?
Culpa de Mikeanaro
Mikeanaro
08-03-2016, 06:15 PM
Culpa de Mikeanaro (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=44789)
:lol
Eh loco vamo a bailar con los Espurs en patas, tomando birraaaa copense son uno gatooo estoy re fisuraaaa
:wakeup
Canyonero
08-03-2016, 07:01 PM
:lol
Eh loco vamo a bailar con los Espurs en patas, tomando birraaaa copense son uno gatooo estoy re fisuraaaa
:wakeup
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gQ15N7PUKZw/UbWsyQgRqDI/AAAAAAAAH-0/TVMGWUGQJBE/s640/Manu%27s+Tim+Duncan+Impression.gif
ElNono
08-03-2016, 07:15 PM
Levantabas hablando de basquet?
:lol
Canyonero
08-08-2016, 08:49 AM
Dude was solid yesterday
He was a ball of energy last night.
cutewizard
08-08-2016, 10:11 AM
hmmmmmmmm......
wildbill2u
08-08-2016, 11:56 AM
That pic above showing Garino taking a shot to the crown jewels gives a whole new meaning to tough defense.
gambit1990
08-08-2016, 12:00 PM
green, garino, kawhi on the floor at the same time would be some stingy defense.
Chinook
08-08-2016, 12:11 PM
That pic above showing Garino taking a shot to the crown jewels gives a whole new meaning to tough defense.
Just Klay being Klay, but in the light of day.
elemento
08-08-2016, 12:24 PM
Boy looking good in FIBA. Hopefully he gets the 15th spot.
SpursforSix
08-08-2016, 12:48 PM
Boy looking good in FIBA. Hopefully he gets the 15th spot.
:pop: He doesn't have pics of my privates.
buttsR4rebounding
08-08-2016, 02:27 PM
Just Klay being Klay, but in the light of day.
Could you tell...was it a push-off or a pull-off?
ceperez
08-09-2016, 05:54 AM
Boy looking good in FIBA. Hopefully he gets the 15th spot.
Spurs coaching could make him into a serviceable 3 and D player. Have him spend all his time in the gym with Leonard. He'll get it!
elemento
08-09-2016, 09:30 AM
Spurs coaching could make him into a serviceable 3 and D player. Have him spend all his time in the gym with Leonard. He'll get it!
Yeah that's how I see him in the NBA as well.
kaji157
08-09-2016, 10:49 AM
Spurs coaching could make him into a serviceable 3 and D player. Have him spend all his time in the gym with Leonard. He'll get it!
I tend to agree with this assumption but i think Garino can do a bot more than our traditionals (Bowen, Udoka, Green, Butler) 3-D guys.
He has a bot more upside on offense than those players.
Off topic: Look at the similarity in these layup shots.
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benefactor
08-09-2016, 11:30 AM
Missing piece tbh
Leetonidas
08-09-2016, 11:35 AM
Dude might actually be a rotation player in the league
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