2016-17 Training Camp Thread

[J_Paco]

Someone tell me if I'm wrong...

When have you ever been right?!?!?!?!

Oh I forgot, FAGGOT!!!

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Seriously, as if the coaching staff would suddenly ask a player to do things outside of his skillset. Green has been terrible at driving to the basket since nearly day one, but all of a sudden because of a "big" contract they'll ask him to do things he's poor at?

That's like asking Patty Mills (your crush) to be a true point guard, Tony to defend or Kyle to be more athletic. He isn't, and they aren't, going to be picking up skills and traits out of thin fucking air. You have got to be one of the stupidest posters on this board.

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[dabom]

When have you ever been right?!?!?!?!

Oh I forgot, FAGGOT!!!

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Seriously, as if the coaching staff would suddenly ask a player to do things outside of his skillset. Green has been terrible at driving to the basket since nearly day one, but all of a sudden because of a "big" contract they'll ask him to do things he's poor at?

That's like asking Patty Mills (your crush) to be a true point guard, Tony to defend or Kyle to be more athletic. He isn't, and they aren't, going to be picking up skills and traits out of thin fucking air. You have got to be one of the stupidest posters on this board.

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Are you ducking serious? Depending on the player, the coaching staff will tell you to do other things besides your skill set if your young. Are you a fucking moron? Watch the Spurs next time faggot.

[YGWHI]

Yes the coaching staff did try to expand his game because Manu was aging and they wanted to see what was there.
Agree. Manu/Parker aging and Spurs lack quality guards were good reasons to want it.


Seriously, as if the coaching staff would suddenly ask a player to do things outside of his skillset. Green has been terrible at driving to the basket since nearly day one, but all of a sudden because of a "big" contract they'll ask him to do things he's poor at?

But Danny was driving early in last regular season -more than other seasons- for some reason.

It's obvious that the Spurs wanted to prove some new moves with him, a role player couldn't get those plays if his coach didn't look for it.

With Parker/Manu aging, the Spurs need to find other offensive options, that's why they were trying to develop Danny's drives, but sadly, at some point, they realized that it wasn't working

[SPURt]

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Thanks for rubbing in the fact that number isn't 37 ESPN! Timmy, say it ain't so...

[GSH]

He just got a raise to 42 mil over 4 years. Yes the coaching staff did try to expand his game because Manu was aging and they wanted to see what was there.
Pop would benched his ass long time ago. Remember when Tony would just tell him to not fucking dribble the BALL!!!
In front of everyone!! Everyone knew. And everyone knew when Pop tried to expand his game you stupid fuck. :lmao


LOL... you're like the king of Doesn't-Get-It. As usual, you're arguing about shit that no one said. It's like pointing something out to a fucking dog - they always look at your finger.

She said that dribbling the ball screwed Danny up. As in cause and effect. And I disagreed. Look really closely, fuckhead - no mention of whether or not the coaching staff wanted him to drive with the ball. Maybe they did. I don't know for sure, but neither do you. A few people on ST speculating isn't the same thing as "everybody KNEW". But since other teams figured out that they had to stick with him more out on the arc, they probably did try to get him to.

But I can tell you this much. The coaching staff didn't want one of the best 3P shooters in the league to pass up wide-open 3P shots in favor of dribbling the ball and taking bad in-between shots. Didn't happen. And if you think it did, you're even more of a simian than I gave you credit for.



Danny has been a true ironman for seasons now. Trying to put the ball on the floor on close outs screwed him up.

[dabom]

LOL... you're like the king of Doesn't-Get-It. As usual, you're arguing about shit that no one said. It's like pointing something out to a fucking dog - they always look at your finger.

She said that dribbling the ball screwed Danny up. As in cause and effect. And I disagreed. Look really closely, fuckhead - no mention of whether or not the coaching staff wanted him to drive with the ball. Maybe they did. I don't know for sure, but neither do you. A few people on ST speculating isn't the same thing as "everybody KNEW". But since other teams figured out that they had to stick with him more out on the arc, they probably did try to get him to.

But I can tell you this much. The coaching staff didn't want one of the best 3P shooters in the league to pass up wide-open 3P shots in favor of dribbling the ball and taking bad in-between shots. Didn't happen. And if you think it did, you're even more of a simian than I gave you credit for.

It was the start of the season you stupid fuck. That's exactly the type of thing you try to work on. :lmao

[wildbill2u]

As I recall, it is an annual mantra for the coaches and players to say that they want to improve their game by adding some skill sets. They work on these skills in practice and expect the players to be able to put them into practice. The players all say they work on the parts of their game that aren't as good. Look how Kwahi improved his shot from working with Chip and endless hours of practice. Same with Kyle. And others.

I think it was clear that Danny tried to improve his ball handling and driving skills, whether it was because of coaches' suggestions or just a realization by Danny that he needed to work on it. The only thing that matters is that he is trying to improve. Trying.

[Chinook]

As I recall, it is an annual mantra for the coaches and players to say that they want to improve their game by adding some skill sets. They work on these skills in practice and expect the players to be able to put them into practice. The players all say they work on the parts of their game that aren't as good. Look how Kwahi improved his shot from working with Chip and endless hours of practice. Same with Kyle. And others.

I think it was clear that Danny tried to improve his ball handling and driving skills, whether it was because of coaches' suggestions or just a realization by Danny that he needed to work on it. The only thing that matters is that he is trying to improve. Trying.

Yeah, every year some version of Danny 2.0 comes out. Sometimes it's driving. Sometimes it's PnR. Sometimes it's taking shots off screens. Nothing seems to stick, but it's clear he and the coaches set something up every off-season. With him having been in the gym early this year, I think we should expect to see something else.

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2sCMcbGe-M

A bit old... but...

[Chinook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2sCMcbGe-M

A bit old... but...

Do you mean the video or the roster?

[BillMc]

Do you mean the video or the roster?

Drum roll, Chinook is in town all week. 8:00 show is different from the 10...:lol

I meant the vid is about a week old.

[SAGirl]

Does anyone see Pop sticking with Lee/Dedmon?

I posted a typical SAGirl essay TM review of the game after I watched it last night and I thought a good part of the TO was the spacing with those two. I have real concerns about it. Dedmon was a huge disappointment I think we pretty much agreed. I hope he will be better, but he didn't strike me as this guy you should be looking to make interior passes to. He's just a guy that hopefully will give rim protection, box out bigs, be in position on help defense and garbage clean up man. He didn't grab boards and fouled too much, so even defensively where he is supposed to be solid, he wasn't and that is a concern, but offensively there are issues for everyone else as well if Lee wants to get to the rim all the time and he is attempting interior passes to Dedmon. I tend to think maybe they can get chemistry and what not, but overall I have concerns about that pairing still.

[J_Paco]

Are you ducking serious? Depending on the player, the coaching staff will tell you to do other things besides your skill set if your young. Are you a fucking moron? Watch the Spurs next time faggot.

I knew your stupid ass would say this. Danny isn't young (almost 30 years old) and likely drove more to try to add something to his (limited) offensive game. I doubt Pop or the coaching staff thought it is a good idea that a terrible slasher/finisher try to "add that to his game."

I know a moron like you would, though.

LMAO

[SAGirl]

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[bklynspursfan]

Does anyone see Pop sticking with Lee/Dedmon?

I posted a typical SAGirl essay TM review of the game after I watched it last night and I thought a good part of the TO was the spacing with those two. I have real concerns about it. Dedmon was a huge disappointment I think we pretty much agreed. I hope he will be better, but he didn't strike me as this guy you should be looking to make interior passes to. He's just a guy that hopefully will give rim protection, box out bigs, be in position on help defense and garbage clean up man. He didn't grab boards and fouled too much, so even defensively where he is supposed to be solid, he wasn't and that is a concern, but offensively there are issues for everyone else as well if Lee wants to get to the rim all the time and he is attempting interior passes to Dedmon. I tend to think maybe they can get chemistry and what not, but overall I have concerns about that pairing still.

I think it's just too early to try and determine what Pop is thinking, many times he doesn't have his rotations figured out till the ASB.

Dedmon won't be a guy to get the ball to in the post or w/e IMO. He seems like he'd be a guy like DeAndre to score off offensive rebounds, P&R, etc..., offensively. Defensively, hopefully he'll be a guy to contest shots, rebound, and not foul too much.

Lee is easier to fit in, and a good P&R player. If he can start knocking down his shot, he'll get even more burn. He runs the floor, rebounds well, and is a hard worker out there. Defensively is obviously a weakness of his, but for a bench player on this team, it's not out of the ordinary. Our 2nd unit generally has been poor defensively, but dynamic offensively.

I try not to judge guys too much at this time, particularly new guys, and especially big guys (who in the past have taken a little longer to familiarize themselves with the "SA Way") For me, I'll kinda wait and see how things look in Dec/Jan for them. If Pop goes the route of playing them together, I imagine he'll give them some time to see if it works. If not, I'm sure he'll adjust to something else

[dabom]

I knew your stupid ass would say this. Danny isn't young (almost 30 years old) and likely drove more to try to add something to his (limited) offensive game. I doubt Pop or the coaching staff thought it is a good idea that a terrible slasher/finisher try to "add that to his game."

I know a moron like you would, though.

LMAO

Everyone except you and gsfaggot disagree. Faggots. Ya not the brightest posters 4th though. :lmao

[Brian Windhorst]

I had a ton of Jeff Ayres flashbacks watching Dedmon.

And TBH just from the eye test he looks closer to 6'9 than 7'0 but I could be wrong.

[SAGirl]

I had a ton of Jeff Ayres flashbacks watching Dedmon.

And TBH just from the eye test he looks closer to 6'9 than 7'0 but I could be wrong.
A real concern bc one cannot win a championship with Jeff Ayres as your 3rd big.

I have all sort of theories and intrigues with how it will shake up. Should be one of the interesting things this season. Hopefully the dude steps up. This is a contract season for him and there is a lot of money for him if he improves. Otherwise they will end up playing super small with Lee as the center.

[TD 21]

Again, I think Dedmon being a supposed lock for third big was always what people wanted more so than what was likely. I always thought Anderson and probably Lee would be ahead of him. In reality, he's probably more so in competition with Simmons and maybe even Bertans to be the 10th man.


I had a ton of Jeff Ayres flashbacks watching Dedmon.

And TBH just from the eye test he looks closer to 6'9 than 7'0 but I could be wrong.

He's 6'10'' barefoot, which makes him roughly 6'11'' in shoes, with a 7'4'' wingspan.

[bklynspursfan]

Pop saying the same thing.. too early to form opinions on the new guys

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[sasaint]

I had a ton of Jeff Ayres flashbacks watching Dedmon.

And TBH just from the eye test he looks closer to 6'9 than 7'0 but I could be wrong.

:lol I almost started a thread: Is Dedmon the Ayres of 2016?

[HarlemHeat37]

Dedmon was my #1 off-season target, as I said throughout, but he's still a project(even at his relatively advanced age)..offensively, he's bad, which was already known..the hope is that he learns to consistently catch and finish with power..

Defense is his specialty and the only way he'll stick in the rotation..the fouling has plagued him his entire career and it continues to be the roadblock for him..he's not comparable to Ayres, though, as Dedmon already has a very good NBA season on his resume(for his role, obviously not in the overall landscape)..

[sasaint]

A real concern bc one cannot win a championship with Jeff Ayres as your 3rd big.

I have all sort of theories and intrigues with how it will shake up. Should be one of the interesting things this season. Hopefully the dude steps up. This is a contract season for him and there is a lot of money for him if he improves. Otherwise they will end up playing super small with Lee as the center.

Go ahead - share a theory. (But please do it before I start reading my new book - no time for both. ;) ) You know that I have already asserted that as Deadman goes, so go the Spurs. If he is Ayres redux, the Spurs are mere pretenders. :(

Perhaps PATFO have a Plan B in case Deadman drops. Surely it has to be better than going with Anthony... or staying pat with LMA, Gasol, Lee and Kyle...!

[SAGirl]

Go ahead - share a theory. (But please do it before I start reading my new book - no time for both. ;) ) You know that I have already asserted that as Deadman goes, so go the Spurs. If he is Ayres redux, the Spurs are mere pretenders. :(

Perhaps PATFO have a Plan B in case Deadman drops. Surely it has to be better than going with Anthony... or staying pat with LMA, Gasol, Lee and Kyle...!
:lol enjoy sense of humor :tu And I have to admit you were right all along in Deadman being the possible key factor and it's not looking good right now.

It's too early. I don't want to jump on Deadman based on one game. I think the team doesn't have other options (it's not like Tiago/Baynes) so they have to push him and coach him and hope he improves. I don't think Pop wants to go really small. We spotted Deadman/Lee and Deadman/Kyle lineups but never saw Lee/Kyle for example, and I suspect that is far from ideal. Unfortunately what happens if Deadman gets in foul trouble? I don't have the answer. (Lee or LJC?)

Possible trades? I don't think Kyle is in the market unless it's something outrageously beneficial to the Spurs, which are the usually ridiculous trades that ppl propose that would never happen and for a trade it would have to be later in the season once they have tried everything with everyone and are convinced that Deadman is not going to work out. In short, too early.

[sasaint]

:lol enjoy sense of humor :tu And I have to admit you were right all along in Deadman being the possible key factor and it's not looking good right now.

It's too early. I don't want to jump on Deadman based on one game. I think the team doesn't have other options (it's not like Tiago/Baynes) so they have to push him and coach him and hope he improves. I don't think Pop wants to go really small. We spotted Deadman/Lee and Deadman/Kyle lineups but never saw Lee/Kyle for example, and I suspect that is far from ideal. Unfortunately what happens if Deadman gets in foul trouble? I don't have the answer. (Lee or LJC?)

Possible trades? I don't think Kyle is in the market unless it's something outrageously beneficial to the Spurs, which are the usually ridiculous trades that ppl propose that would never happen and for a trade it would have to be later in the season once they have tried everything with everyone and are convinced that Deadman is not going to work out. In short, too early.

BTW, thanks for the game analysis. I couldn't catch it. :tu

[SAGirl]

BTW, thanks for the game analysis. I couldn't catch it. :tu

I had only seen about 25-40% at best due to the technical troubles but I watched it last night and when one watches a rerun that you can pause, etc I was able to make more detailed observations so I thought I'd write them down.

The biggest revelations to me when paying attention, were that a good amount of TO were caused by spacing issues (not all, but maybe a third of them, which is substantial in a game that had 30 TO :wow) And although the review showed that the rookies have their flaws to work on etc., I was more shocked by the guys in the rotation being that raw with the exception of Kawhi and Kyle.

I liked Lapro too and I think he's the frontrunner for making the team, but Dedmon is making a case for Anthony, which is that thread that was started by Nono about him. TBH, I couldn't even be that harsh in that review on LJC after watching Dedmon. I am glad you didn't see it considering. :lol Hopefully dude feels the pressure to improve and does. There are no easy answers. I don't see Pop splitting LMA and Pau.

[TheGreatYacht]

Get Josh Smith and Mario Chalmers on the phone

[SAGirl]

I think guys got chewed by coach Pop for not being solid.

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There are interviews by Pop, Danny and Kyle on Spurs.com posted today.

[TheGreatYacht]

NBA champion Jordan McRae is killing it right now for Cleveland on NBA TV. He has 20pts, 7rebs, 5ast in 24 minutes

One of the many (many, many) guys that RC terribly missed on. Buford traded him in 2014 for the rights to a euro scrub we will never see. That move looks almost as bad as trading Diaw for a scrub that played in 3 summer league games lol

Last year in the D-League he averaged 23.2ppg, 4.5reb, 5.2ast
This year in the summer league he averaged 24.2ppg, 5reb, 2ast

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blBGwuxGgCI&feature=share

36 is his NBA career high :lol that's higher than you know who's....

[J_Paco]

NBA champion Jordan McRae is killing it right now for Cleveland on NBA TV. He has 20pts, 7rebs, 5ast in 24 minutes

One of the many (many, many) guys that RC terribly missed on. Buford traded him in 2014 for the rights to a euro scrub we will never see. That move looks almost as bad as trading Diaw for a scrub that played in 3 summer league games lol

Last year in the D-League he averaged 23.2ppg, 4.5reb, 5.2ast
This year in the summer league he averaged 24.2ppg, 5reb, 2ast

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blBGwuxGgCI&feature=share

36 is his NBA career high :lol that's higher than you know who's....

Yup, and he's the reason they haven't re-signed J.R. Smith. We'll have to see if he's capable of reproducing that with regular minutes.

[Spurs9]

:cry but lebron will be annoyed if jr isnt signed :cry

[bklynspursfan]

Manu on his role w/Anderson & Simmons progressing.

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[Solid D]

NBA champion Jordan McRae is killing it right now for Cleveland on NBA TV. He has 20pts, 7rebs, 5ast in 24 minutes

One of the many (many, many) guys that RC terribly missed on. Buford traded him in 2014 for the rights to a euro scrub we will never see. That move looks almost as bad as trading Diaw for a scrub that played in 3 summer league games lol

Last year in the D-League he averaged 23.2ppg, 4.5reb, 5.2ast
This year in the summer league he averaged 24.2ppg, 5reb, 2ast
....

Yeah, that was a fail - trading him for a tweener Serb who hasn't shown much, yet. The Sixers failed too, since they gave up on McRae. You win some, you lose some. Like the Texas Rangers' Jon Daniels trading away Kyle Hendricks to the Cubs for Ryan Dempster. Hendricks was the MLB ERA leader this season (.213) and won 16 games.

[TheGreatYacht]

Yeah, that was a fail - trading him for a tweener Serb who hasn't shown much, yet. The Sixers failed too, since they gave up on McRae. You win some, you lose some. Like the Texas Rangers' Jon Daniels trading away Kyle Hendricks to the Cubs for Ryan Dempster. Hendricks was the MLB ERA leader this season (.213) and won 16 games.

Yup, and he's the reason they haven't re-signed J.R. Smith. We'll have to see if he's capable of reproducing that with regular minutes.
Hope that Serb gets more playing time, he's only 23. As for McRae I hope he helps Cleveland tbh. It's anybody but Golden State for me

[BD24]

Jesus. Dafakengineer fagging up every single thread upstairs. Makes it tough to read through this shit when you have that retard posting.

[dabom]

I got you quoted saying faggot shit bitch. You'll never come close to my intelligence. :lmao

[BD24]

I got you quoted saying faggot shit bitch. You'll never come close to my intelligence. :lmao
says the guy who lies on the internet about being an Engineer and has to put laughing emojis on every post to make himself feel better.

How sad your real life must be for you to be this messed up. Almost makes me pity you.

[dabom]

Feel sorry about your shitty life, faggot. Mine is great. :lol

FAGGOT. :lmao

[SAGirl]

Manu on his role w/Anderson & Simmons progressing.

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Thanks for sharing! :tu
Difficult question and Manu is so sincere!!!!! (I am skeptical on J.Simms, but let's hope for the best).

It was symbolic to see both referenced guys in the question practicing together in the background.

[BD24]

Yea thats why you have the time to respond to people within 5 minutes, your life must be so great

Whatever you need to tell yourself though so that you don't hang yourself at night. :toast

[dabom]

I work right next to a computer and phone.

Whatcha expect Sherlock. :lmao

[BillMc]

Anyone heard anything about this year's HEB commercials?

Will Pau be invited?


I'd love them to do some sort of skit where they all have to serve Timmy now that's he retired...

[dabom]

I know you're used to flipping burgers and your manager keeps a watch on you. When you get a real job, you just have to finish your work in a timely matter. :lmao

[SAGirl]

Anyone heard anything about this year's HEB commercials?

Will Pau be invited?


I'd love them to do some sort of skit where they all have to serve Timmy now that's he retired...
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[BillMc]

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SAGirl with the goods! Many thanks!:toast:flag:

[SAGirl]

SAGirl with the goods! Many thanks!:toast:flag:
:bobo
added a tweet later with speculation on TD.

[jyra]

Here's some more:

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https://instagram.ftxl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/14515789_1269788433062445_5840870723278602240_n.jp g?ig_cache_key=MTM1NTI5Mjc1NzEzMjcxOTE5MA%3D%3D.2

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[BillMc]

:bobo
added a tweet later with speculation on TD.

You're a hell of a reporter, SAGirl. :bobo

[BillMc]

Here's some more:

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https://instagram.ftxl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/14515789_1269788433062445_5840870723278602240_n.jp g?ig_cache_key=MTM1NTI5Mjc1NzEzMjcxOTE5MA%3D%3D.2

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Thanks man.:toast Though the outfits in this skit scare me a little... Kind of a Deliverance theme there...

[Kawhitstorm]

NBA champion Jordan McRae is killing it right now for Cleveland on NBA TV. He has 20pts, 7rebs, 5ast in 24 minutes

One of the many (many, many) guys that RC terribly missed on. Buford traded him in 2014 for the rights to a euro scrub we will never see. That move looks almost as bad as trading Diaw for a scrub that played in 3 summer league games lol

Last year in the D-League he averaged 23.2ppg, 4.5reb, 5.2ast
This year in the summer league he averaged 24.2ppg, 5reb, 2ast

He probably has attitude problems like KJ McDaniels which might explain why he has been toiling in the D-League.

[Trueblood]

I had only seen about 25-40% at best due to the technical troubles but I watched it last night and when one watches a rerun that you can pause, etc I was able to make more detailed observations so I thought I'd write them down.

The biggest revelations to me when paying attention, were that a good amount of TO were caused by spacing issues (not all, but maybe a third of them, which is substantial in a game that had 30 TO :wow) And although the review showed that the rookies have their flaws to work on etc., I was more shocked by the guys in the rotation being that raw with the exception of Kawhi and Kyle.

I liked Lapro too and I think he's the frontrunner for making the team, but Dedmon is making a case for Anthony, which is that thread that was started by Nono about him. TBH, I couldn't even be that harsh in that review on LJC after watching Dedmon. I am glad you didn't see it considering. :lol Hopefully dude feels the pressure to improve and does. There are no easy answers. I don't see Pop splitting LMA and Pau.

Where did you catch the game and How did you record it? Just trying to be prepared for the next one

[Hoops Czar]

Where did you catch the game and How did you record it? Just trying to be prepared for the next one

You can record with VLC.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Looks like Pau has replaced Timmy in the HEB commercials. This is from Lamarcus' insta account

http://i.imgur.com/o8A0e2m.png

[Brazil]

(I am skeptical on J.Simms, but let's hope for the best).
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:lol

[spursistan]

Looks like Pau has replaced Timmy in the HEB commercials. This is from Lamarcus' insta account

http://i.imgur.com/o8A0e2m.png
And Danny instead of Mills?

[Chinook]

Anyone else watching the Spurs preview episode on NBATV right now?

[Chinook]

And Danny instead of Mills?

I doubt Danny's a regular. With this transition, you have six main guys (seven if you count Mills). That's too many to have them all.

[SAGirl]

Where did you catch the game and How did you record it? Just trying to be prepared for the next one
It was available online at the suns website the day after. I just faked my IP address for a couple of hours to be from Phoenix and watched it. It's possible you can find out now on League Pass (which you have to pay for)

[SAGirl]

Anyone else watching the Spurs preview episode on NBATV right now?
no will turn it on. was in the kitchen. Is it worth it?

[Chinook]

no will turn it on. was in the kitchen. Is it worth it?

I think you've posted the interviews of it. Besides that, it's just Isaiah Thomas being wrong about things.

EDIT: Thomas does love Anderson, though.

[SAGirl]

lol Isaiah Thomas vouching for Anderson and Lee!!!
He thinks the bench will be better than last season.:toast

[SAGirl]

I think you've posted the interviews of it. Besides that, it's just Isaiah Thomas being wrong about things.

EDIT: Thomas does love Anderson, though.

I saw that about Anderson, but I remember he narrated and was the NBA TV announcer during Summer League when Anderson won the SL MVP... I guess he's bought it. lol

I missed everything else that came b4 it though, since I just turned it on.

[Chinook]

I saw that, but I remember he narrated and was the NBA TV announcer during Summer League when Anderson won the SL MVP... I guess he's bought it. lol

It's almost over, but it's coming on again at 9:30 central.

[SAGirl]

I agree. They are over 56. No way they are 12 games under last season if the main guys are healthy.

[SAGirl]

It's almost over, but it's coming on again at 9:30 central.
Thanks Chinook. I guess I caught the best part. :lol

[apalisoc_9]

I know you're used to flipping burgers and your manager keeps a watch on you. When you get a real job, you just have to finish your work in a timely matter. :lmao

:lol

btw, appreciate the referal. I've never had a 70k job before..but thanks to my nigga dabom, I'm moving up. :toast

[rjv]

Here's some more:

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are you sure this wasn't on the LOGO channel?

[dabom]

:lol

btw, appreciate the referal. I've never had a 70k job before..but thanks to my nigga dabom, I'm moving up. :toast

No problem my dude. It's all about connections in the real world. :tu

[benfti]

HEB love Patty, no way he is not in them this year

[BD24]

I know you're used to flipping burgers and your manager keeps a watch on you. When you get a real job, you just have to finish your work in a timely matter. :lmao
Thats interesting, didn't realize flipping burgers pays six figures these days. I must be the best paid burger flipper this planet has ever seen.

[gambit1990]

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/78004eb890ba90869650cf1b803ed9f6?width=700

[dabom]

Thats interesting, didn't realize flipping burgers pays six figures these days. I must be the best paid burger flipper this planet has ever seen.

Do you smell like fries and grease when you leave work? :lmao

Faggot. :lol

[BD24]

Do you smell like fries and grease when you leave work? :lmao

Faggot. :lol
If they are paying me six figures I'm ok with that. I know what my bank account says, but think what you want gay boy.

[apalisoc_9]

Not sure why people doubt dabom work credentials..He already provided proof of his job. He even got me a decent paying job.

How many people you met online would do such a thing..Dabom is the real MVP..and if people actually realize, they'd be far better off.

Dabom reminds me off 2011 lebron and 2016 Durant.

[dabom]

:lol

[BD24]

Not sure why people doubt dabom work credentials..He already provided proof of his job. He even got me a decent paying job.

How many people you met online would do such a thing..Dabom is the real MVP..and if people actually realize, they'd be far better off.

Dabom reminds me off 2011 lebron and 2016 Durant.
Because you are such a believable source :rolleyes

[apalisoc_9]

Pretty sure dabom himself posted screenshots of his credentials.

[BD24]

Because he couldn't of gotten someone elses...and then posted them. No that isn't possible.

Look Dabom may have actually gotten you a job, the problem is you two are such pathological liars that no one on this site is going to believe a fucking thing either of you say.

Anyway the two of you have a nice night and go fuck yourselves :toast

[Spur|n|Austin]

And Danny instead of Mills?

No, Pau, Lamarcus, Danny, Patty, Tony, Manu and Kawhi are all in the commercials this year.

[dabom]

Because he couldn't of gotten someone elses...and then posted them. No that isn't possible.

Look Dabom may have actually gotten you a job, the problem is you two are such pathological liars that no one on this site is going to believe a fucking thing either of you say.

Anyway the two of you have a nice night and go fuck yourselves :toast

Fuck you too. :tu

[Spur|n|Austin]

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[Obi Juan Kenobi]

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/78004eb890ba90869650cf1b803ed9f6?width=700

https://d1sui4xqepm0ps.cloudfront.net/categories/noice

[TheDoctor]

glut(tony) in action.
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[apalisoc_9]

glut(tony) in action.
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Lamarcus looks so excited to eat some burgers.

[playbonner15]

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Is Pau the token white guy?

[cutewizard]

glut(tony) in action.
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Spurs team full of leaders, basketball-wise:

the leader of France,

the leader of Argentina,

the leader of Australia,

the leader of Spain

[cutewizard]

And, of course, the twin leaders of the Spurs:

THE TWIN ALPHAS!!!!

this could be among the most interesting years of the Spurs.......

[monkeypunk]

Anyway the two of you have a nice night and go fuck yourselves :toast

Tbh

[gambit1990]

anyone else going to tomorrow night's game?

[SAGirl]

Honestly, who cares about daboom. That is why there is an ignore button. Not even worth discussing....
:rolleyes

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[SAGirl]

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[BD24]

Honestly, who cares about daboom. That is why there is an ignore button. Not even worth discussing....
:rolleyes

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Except the part where the ignore feature doesn't really work as there is a thing called quotes. But you already knew that.

[SAGirl]

Except the part where the ignore feature doesn't really work as there is a thing called quotes. But you already knew that.

Yea he is annoying, still quotes me.... lol I got you.

[BD24]

Yea he is annoying, still quotes me.... lol I got you.
:toast

[gambit1990]

timmy, drob, and gervin are doing an heb commercial. possibly more than one.

[Phenomanul]

timmy, drob, and gervin are doing an heb commercial. possibly more than one.

:king

I was wondering if Timmy would keep the HEB commercials going... His are the funniest ones...

[cutewizard]

:bobo

[YGWHI]

glut(tony) in action.
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Patty should manage @ spurs twitter official account. His tweets are a lot more fun...

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[YGWHI]

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[YGWHI]

Is tonight's Spurs game televised? Streamed on Spurs site?

[apalisoc_9]

Is tonight's Spurs game televised? Streamed on Spurs site?

Its on league pass. Links should be plentiful

[YGWHI]

Its on league pass. Links should be plentiful

Thanks!!

[YGWHI]

I'm tired of people trolling Parker for his dribble dribble dribble on Twitter...At least he's working with his trainer this preseason instead of eating donuts!

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[TheDoctor]

Patty should manage @ spurs twitter official account. His tweets are a lot more fun...

I agree, Spurs social media accounts are "meh". Too conventional and conservative.

[cutewizard]

:claw

[SAGirl]

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[cutewizard]

:claw

[SAGirl]

My take:
Laprovittola is the one making the team.
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Very few are capable of that pass right there.

It's Lappy, then Forbes, then Anthony. If they don't trade or waive anyone it's just Lappy, but he's a heck of a player, the combination of his shooting, passing and BBIQ won me over.

I like Forbes bc he's just a pure shooter and scorer, but he will be in Austin and can be picked up midseason if needed. Lappy meanwhile is a player who will bolt for international play if he's not making this team right now, and he's worth that last spot.

[SAGirl]

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[SAGirl]

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[spursistan]

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Is Timmy getting det basketball itch already agzin or the knee is feeling better :wow?

[SAGirl]

Just a workout, my guess of course.

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[YGWHI]

Just a workout, my guess of course.

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Manu said that it was so fast last season, the high standards blah blah blah, but if the Spurs aren't fully engaged defensively this new season after the first games...they're fucked.

[YGWHI]

San Diego State’s Hall of Fame induction ceremony Friday will take place without the school’s greatest basketball player.
Kawhi Leonard is one of five former Aztecs set to be honored, but he made it clear Monday he would rather participate in the Spurs’ preseason finale against Houston at the AT&T Center than be feted by his alma mater.

“My goal right now is to get this team better,” Leonard said. “I thank San Diego State for honoring me, and I wish those guys luck in the upcoming season. They understand what I’m trying to accomplish.”

Leonard is the second Spur to be honored by his college this preseason. Last Friday night, with the team’s permission, LaMarcus Aldridge skipped a home game against Miami to be ushered into Texas’ Hall of Honor in Austin.

“Kawhi is a lot like Timmy in that regard,” said Popovich, referring to recently retired Spurs great Tim Duncan. “Accolades don’t mean anything to him. He just wants to win NBA championships. It really is all he thinks about as far as basketball is concerned.”
http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Spurs-Leonard-chooses-preseason-finale-over-9978641.php?t=2e68323990c6ed8151&cmpid=twitter-premium

As a Spurs fan it sounds great.

But to be honest, I feel bad for those many Aztec fans who are waiting to see him at Viejas Arena again.

[YGWHI]

Don't want to read between lines but this isn't the best way to build chemistry...Aldridge can think that Kawhi's exposing him with his decision.

[SAGirl]

Don't want to read between lines but this isn't the best way to build chemistry...Aldridge can think that Kawhi's exposing him with his decision.

Don't take this in a bad way, but that is mainly a public social event that I don't think Kawhi would even enjoy going to, so why go when he's got his mind on other things? Kawhi has even declined Team USA to focus on his game etc.

[spurs10]

Not surprising that Kawhi prefers playing with the team than go to the ceremony in San Diego. I like what Pop said comparing him to Tim- not caring much about 'accolades' and just wanting to 'win championships.'

[cutewizard]

If Tim Duncan suddenly returned.....

spurstalk would explode, literally!!! hahahahaha

:bobo

[cutewizard]

Manu is still his old intelligent self......

Manu would thrive in Westeros, tbh, hahahahahahaha

[spursgu]

Diva Aldridge. Good thing Kawhi just cares about what's best for the team.

[YGWHI]

Don't take this in a bad way, but that is mainly a public social event that I don't think Kawhi would even enjoy going to, so why go when he's got his mind on other things? Kawhi has even declined Team USA to focus on his game etc.

Sorry, you're right.

I've said before that I'm excited but so scared at the same time about this new season. I was optimistic after the first two preaseason games, now with the season set to begin in less than a week, I'm in the dark side. So worried and scared. :oops

[SAGirl]

Sorry, you're right.

I've said before that I'm excited but so scared at the same time about this new season. I was optimistic after the first two preaseason games, now with the season set to begin in less than a week, I'm in the dark side. So worried and scared. :oops

Possible struggles bc so many new players, specially the bigs which are so important defensively. And the concerns you have are well known. We know the guys who are old and may fall off, we know the bigs who are offensive minded and struggle on defense, we know the younger guys who have looked only so so, and then Pop has spent a long time trying to decide on camp cuts, and given extensive looks to rookies like Bertans and Murray to get a sense for what he has there b4 the games start counting. It's only normal to me to have some trepidation with so many new faces, but that's what makes it exciting to me.

When games count Kawhi will play more and will step up too. Pop will want to win and not put guys out there just because he wants to see what happens.
:flag:

[YGWHI]

Not surprising that Kawhi prefers playing with the team than go to the ceremony in San Diego. I like what Pop said comparing him to Tim- not caring much about 'accolades' and just wanting to 'win championships.'

Loved that part.

Tim led this team by example in many ways, and now it seems like Kawhi is taking a page out of TD's book, showing his guys that the team is everything and championships are over individual accolades.

[YGWHI]

Possible struggles bc so many new players, specially the bigs which are so important defensively. And the concerns you have are well known. We know the guys who are old and may fall off, we know the bigs who are offensive minded and struggle on defense, we know the younger guys who have looked only so so, and then Pop has spent a long time trying to decide on camp cuts, and given extensive looks to rookies like Bertans and Murray to get a sense for what he has there b4 the games start counting. It's only normal to me to have some trepidation with so many new faces, but that's what makes it exciting to me.

When games count Kawhi will play more and will step up too. Pop will want to win and not put guys out there just because he wants to see what happens.
:flag:

Thanks!! :flag:

[SPURt]

I just don't know where to put this but it belongs on ST. Kind of taking the Spurs colors but with a really confusing message:

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[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvYQFjkVYAARh_p.jpg:large

[SAGirl]

Small ball revolution apparently:
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Very young roster except the HoF veteran faces.
Also 4 rookies.
Looking forward to them putting it together myself.
:flag:

[ceperez]

Small ball revolution apparently:
789924713870925824
Very young roster except the HoF veteran faces.
Also 4 rookies.
Looking forward to them putting it together myself.
:flag:

So, who can't shoot the 3? Those guys shouldn't get playing time.

Lee, Dedmon and Murray. Yes, those 3 should be in street clothes most of the season.

[Maddog]

Small ball revolution apparently:
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Very young roster except the HoF veteran faces.
Also 4 rookies.
Looking forward to them putting it together myself.
:flag:

Spurs keep the international flavor

2 Argentines
1 Frenchman
1 Spaniard
1 Aussie
1 latvian
1 Space Alien

[TheDoctor]

Small ball revolution apparently:
789924713870925824
Very young roster except the HoF veteran faces.
Also 4 rookies.
Looking forward to them putting it together myself.
:flag:

Tony's face as chubby as Patty's w/ the difference that the latest is rocking a 300 beard.

[apalisoc_9]

How old is dedmon? The forehead wrinkles on that dude is unreal for a mid 20s guy

[SAGirl]

San Antonio Spurs ‏@spurs (https://twitter.com/spurs) 24m24 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/spurs/status/790291270979555328) One last practice before we head out to Oakland! Here's what Coach Pop and Manu had to say:
Spurs Sound: Practice 10/23
Coach Pop and Manu chat with the media at our last practice before flying out to Oakland tomorrow.
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Pop says he's going to look at both Anderson and Simmons' consistency for the first 6-9 games bc they will both be playing minutes that are important as opposed to end of the game minutes.

I believe Anderson will play well within the team concept bc he has done tthat b4. (Already averaged 20 minutes from Jan-April last season and played well enough to keep his spot and help the team win a lot of games). I expect him to be good.

Simmons is the wild card in terms of how consistent and solid he can be because that has been his own personal struggle but it looks like he will be getting a good amount of the Danny minutes.

[SAGirl]

Jabari Young Verified account ‏@JabariJYoung (https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung) 3h3 hours ago (https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung/status/790252498762076160) Popovich said Jonathon Simmons (calf) should be good to go vs #Warriors (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Warriors?src=hash) on Tues. ... #Spurs (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Spurs?src=hash)

(tweet links messing with me)
Jabari Young ‏@JabariJYoung (https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung) 2h2 hours ago (https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung/status/790263625382518784) Popovich said it will take about a month for #Spurs (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Spurs?src=hash) to starting clicking ... Ginobili agreed

Jabari Young ‏@JabariJYoung (https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung) 3h3 hours ago (https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung/status/790255306190094336)
Manu said #Spurs (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Spurs?src=hash) want to push the pace more this year, but still can't get into a shootout with #Warriors (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Warriors?src=hash)

[GSH]

Jabari Young could predict that the sun is going to rise tomorrow morning, and I'd still have to hear it from a more credible source.

[SAGirl]

^^^ Well that was just him reporting from media availability after today's practice.
Too bad the tweet links are messing up with me. There are some interviews today in the Spurs website from Pop and Manu about Tuesday's game.

The silver lining if you want to see it...
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Going to stay optimistic. I hope it doesn't get scary. :flag:

[DPG21920]

Pop and Manu are just echoing what I was trying to say to Manu4 the other day. Lot's of new guys, lots of young guys and lots of questinmarks.

Especially the bench (IMO). Going to take time and there will be up's and down's especially with Danny out.

[GSH]

^^^ Well that was just him reporting from media availability after today's practice.


I'm not blaming you. The way he handled the LMA deal sort of finished him, for me. If he had just come out and said, "I fucked up", at least I could have respected him. I'm sure he'll get some things right.

[MaNu4Tres]

Pop and Manu are just echoing what I was trying to say to Manu4 the other day. Lot's of new guys, lots of young guys and lots of questinmarks.

Especially the bench (IMO). Going to take time and there will be up's and down's especially with Danny out.

No no no.. you said me counting on Manu and Parker staying healthy is wrong and I"m too optimistic for thinking they can stay healthy.

Then you basically said Spurs are going to rely on Forbes/ Laprovitolla/ Murray/ Simmons the same way they rely on Patty and Manu. Because my argument was basically that Forbes/Lapro / Murray/ Simmons/ and the worse player from Anderson/Bertans/ Lee competition are only going to have roles to fill spot minutes in empty minute opportunities. Unless, Spurs get stricken with a plethra of injuries to the main core -- then Spurs will heavily rely on some of the new rookies & all of Anderson/Bertans/Lee.

There's uncertainty going into every year and chemistry does take time. I never said opposite of that or what Manu and Pop just echoed.

:wakeup

[Hoops Czar]

Pop and Manu are just echoing what I was trying to say to Manu4 the other day. Lot's of new guys, lots of young guys and lots of questinmarks.

Especially the bench (IMO). Going to take time and there will be up's and down's especially with Danny out.

Warriors have a lot of new guys too. They should struggle as well. Or is this just cover for the Spurs have a lot of guys that are either old or aren't very good. Pop's gonna have to pull some rabbits out of hats in order to put them in positions where they can succeed.

[GSH]

Pop and Manu are just echoing what I was trying to say to Manu4 the other day. Lot's of new guys, lots of young guys and lots of questinmarks.

Especially the bench (IMO). Going to take time and there will be up's and down's especially with Danny out.


You remember back around '03, the Spurs opened the season with Anthony Carter at the point, Manu in the starting lineup, and no backup PG? Then Anthony Carter got injured, and they started Jason Hart at the point, with Shane Heal as backup? The Spurs started something like 10-10 in October, and then went on a 12 game winning streak to start November.

This season, the Spurs starting 5 was supposed to be identical to last year, but with Gasol in place of Duncan. Considering Duncan's knees last year, that's an upgrade. Danny being out will put a kink in things, and it will take Pop some time to fit players and minutes. But they're still very close to the Spurs of last season, after they get healthy, and the new guys get some court time with each other.

The new guys may disappoint, but either way we won't know who this team is until the end of November, at least.

[Hoops Czar]

^^^ Well that was just him reporting from media availability after today's practice.
Too bad the tweet links are messing up with me. There are some interviews today in the Spurs website from Pop and Manu about Tuesday's game.

The silver lining if you want to see it...
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Going to stay optimistic. I hope it doesn't get scary. :flag:

Pop knows exactly what he has in Simmons and KA but the lack of roster flexibility gives him no choice but to play and encourage them.

[SAGirl]

The new guys may disappoint, but either way we won't know who this team is until the end of November, at least.
And I would say, we will get glimpses of things, but it won't be put together for real until ASB and RR when Pop limits the experiments and plays the guys who really need to get it together.

[DPG21920]

No no no.. you said me counting on Manu and Parker staying healthy is wrong and I"m too optimistic for thinking they can stay healthy.

Then you basically said Spurs are going to rely on Forbes/ Laprovitolla/ Murray/ Simmons the same way they rely on Patty and Manu. Because my argument was basically that Forbes/Lapro / Murray/ Simmons/ and the worse player from Anderson/Bertans/ Lee competition are only going to have roles to fill spot minutes in empty minute opportunities. Unless, Spurs get stricken with a plethra of injuries to the main core -- then Spurs will heavily rely on some of the new rookies & all of Anderson/Bertans/Lee.

There's uncertainty going into every year and chemistry does take time. I never said opposite of that or what Manu and Pop just echoed.

:wakeup

Nah - I said that with the amount of new guys along with the fact you can't rely on TP/Manu to log heavy minutes that SA was going to rely on newer guys in "non garabage time minutes' or whatever you say they play.

I specifically said numerous times that people will have to prepare themselves for ups and downs especially those expecting SA to have a top 5 bench immediately like they usually do.

I can quote it if you like?

[DPG21920]

Warriors have a lot of new guys too. They should struggle as well. Or is this just cover for the Spurs have a lot of guys that are either old or aren't very good. Pop's gonna have to pull some rabbits out of hats in order to put them in positions where they can succeed.

GS has a lot more talent than SA. They should not struggle as much as SA nor do they have as many rookies in the top 10 of their rotation.

[DPG21920]

You remember back around '03, the Spurs opened the season with Anthony Carter at the point, Manu in the starting lineup, and no backup PG? Then Anthony Carter got injured, and they started Jason Hart at the point, with Shane Heal as backup? The Spurs started something like 10-10 in October, and then went on a 12 game winning streak to start November.

This season, the Spurs starting 5 was supposed to be identical to last year, but with Gasol in place of Duncan. Considering Duncan's knees last year, that's an upgrade. Danny being out will put a kink in things, and it will take Pop some time to fit players and minutes. But they're still very close to the Spurs of last season, after they get healthy, and the new guys get some court time with each other.

The new guys may disappoint, but either way we won't know who this team is until the end of November, at least.

Sure but Spurs always rely on their bench. More than most teams. Especially with an older core. The bench is going to take time to mesh.

[MaNu4Tres]

Nah - I said that with the amount of new guys along with the fact you can't rely on TP/Manu to log heavy minutes that SA was going to rely on newer guys in "non garabage time minutes' or whatever you say they play.

I specifically said numerous times that people will have to prepare themselves for ups and downs especially those expecting SA to have a top 5 bench immediately like they usually do.

I can quote it if you like?

:lol

You're twisting your words DPG. You said you can't rely on TP/Manu because of their health -- I disagreed and explained why. Yesterday, you didn't say you can't rely on TP/Manu because they don't log heavy minutes.

Spurs haven't relied on Manu & Tony to log heavy minutes in years. We all know that. And that's why Patty sees more minutes at back up PG than any back up PG Spurs have ever had. That's also why Simmons/Anderson are important because they help Manu get through the regular season. Manu doesn't have to play both games in back to backs. He doesn't have to stay in the game in the 4th when Spurs are up by 20. Those are the same back-court roles in place from the bench from last year. That doesn't mean the roles slotted for 11-15 are going to have big roles. They'll have roles, sure... but much much smaller roles than guys slotted in at 6-10.

That is basically all I said -- which is the same thing I just said in the post above.

Also, I'm more intrigued than worried about guys 11-15 because they're young and have room to grow into consistent role players for the future. I'm not too worried about them because I know they won't have an impact or a role in the big games against Clippers, GS, Cavs, Celtics, Raptors, Blazers ect. or the playoffs. Yes, their spot minutes will help the team get through the season but those spots minutes will be filled in the least competitive situations. That's not just garbage time either. That can be a game vs. the Sixers when Pop sits Tony and Manu. Or a game vs. the Lakers or Kings, ect.

[DPG21920]

I never said I was worried either. Again, I pointed out what should be obvious and what Pop/Manu said - there are a lot of new bodies, many of them young. It will take time to gel especially the bench.

As the core continues to age, the newer guys will be relied upon more than ever (IMO).

I never said youth was bad. Never said I was worried. I pointed out what Pop just said; it's a lot of change and will take time and people should adjust their expectations.

You seem to think Manu/TP will play at the levels they have the past 3-5 years. I don't mainly because I think there can be more injuries due to the fact they are older, played again with their NT and had some injuries the past couple years as well.

I said I understand and agree with going young, that I see the potential and that Im excited.

You are making an argument out of nothing. Just like you saying I "said you were wrong" about Manu/TP :lol. I never said that. I said you may feel more confident about that than I do. That's not saying you are wrong.

[MaNu4Tres]

I never said I was worried either. Again, I pointed out what should be obvious and what Pop/Manu said - there are a lot of new bodies, many of them young. It will take time to gel especially the bench.

As the core continues to age, the newer guys will be relied upon more than ever (IMO).

I never said youth was bad. Never said I was worried. I pointed out what Pop just said; it's a lot of change and will take time and people should adjust their expectations.

You seem to think Manu/TP will play at the levels they have the past 3-5 years. I don't mainly because I think there can be more injuries due to the fact they are older, played again with their NT and had some injuries the past couple years as well.

I said I understand and agree with going young, that I see the potential and that Im excited.

You are making an argument out of nothing. Just like you saying I "said you were wrong" about Manu/TP :lol. I never said that. I said you may feel more confident about that than I do. That's not saying you are wrong.

But I want to argue. Can we argue?

No but really. Nothing I said implied that I think Manu and Tony will play at levels from 3-5 years ago (not sure where that came from). I just have a different opinion on the present degree of relevance for the guys 11-15 on the roster. I'm more concerned with Dedmon. He has to perform well for the bench (6-10) to have a significant edge. If he falls flat on his face and is the 2016 version of Jackie Butler, then the Spurs will have to assess their assets to see what they can get on the trade market or see who gets bought out.

[GSH]

Sure but Spurs always rely on their bench. More than most teams. Especially with an older core. The bench is going to take time to mesh.


Remember, I've been saying that 50 wins is success. With the starting 5 healthy, I think the bench will be good enough to get that done, even if they don't come together like previous years.

I expect the same ups and downs you're predicting, but some of that will be from Pop forcing the young guys into games to see what he's got. Mllls, Anderson, Manu, and Simmons already know the system and how to play together. Lee is a pro, and I expect his learning curve to be short. I think Bertans and Lap have enough experience to get there soon enough. That's enough, IMO, to keep the 50 win streak alive. If any of the other guys over-achieve, that's a bonus.

[DPG21920]

Remember, I've been saying that 50 wins is success. With the starting 5 healthy, I think the bench will be good enough to get that done, even if they don't come together like previous years.

I expect the same ups and downs you're predicting, but some of that will be from Pop forcing the young guys into games to see what he's got. Mllls, Anderson, Manu, and Simmons already know the system and how to play together. Lee is a pro, and I expect his learning curve to be short. I think Bertans and Lap have enough experience to get there soon enough. That's enough, IMO, to keep the 50 win streak alive. If any of the other guys over-achieve, that's a bonus.

I'm honestly not worried about 50 wins unless Danny or others stay injured for a prolonged time. I think the team will win it will just be Bertans looking great one game, then terrible the next for example. Not that it will cost SA games every time, but finding consistency with young/new guys will be hard to come by early.

Most of the time when you are really young, you aren't expected to play for a contender. The SL is fine and vets- but other than Manu/Patty (and Lee, but new to the system) they all are relative noobs. I think there is a ton of potential and I think wins will be plentiful. Just more of a rollercoaster and those days of really large margins of victory may be over for a little while.

[DPG21920]

But I want to argue. Can we argue?

No but really. Nothing I said implied that I think Manu and Tony will play at levels from 3-5 years ago (not sure where that came from). I just have a different opinion on the present degree of relevance for the guys 11-15 on the roster. I'm more concerned with Dedmon. He has to perform well for the bench (6-10) to have a significant edge. If he falls flat on his face and is the 2016 version of Jackie Butler, then the Spurs will have to assess their assets to see what they can get on the trade market or see who gets bought out.

:lol You're my guy so I know where you come from most of the time. I got the 3-5 year thing from something you referenced earlier (about their health maybe). I'm not just talking about guys 11+ either. Guys 9-11 will play solid minutes and even those are questionmarks somewhat (not to the point it's worrisome).

Dedmon will be big and so will Lee. He's going to get PT and my "concern" is Pop and yo-yo's in the lineup and will he have patience to bring guys along and live with some mistakes?

It's a tricky spot for Pop and will be a big test.

[SAGirl]

Dedmon is worrisome. I personally don't like Lee, but it is what it is. I should be grateful we have him and he can help some. It's better to have him than to not have him. But the bench bigs do worry me, more than the perimeter guys. Despite all the new members in the team, for me it is actually these 2 questionable vets I have doubts about.

Anyways, I agree with DPG it will be up and down. Pop himself said it would take about a month to gel, and that is assuming he keeps guys he wants getting repetitions together on the court. If he cycles endlessly I am sure he will find a winning combination at some point, but it could look haphazard at times. I have my own suspicions of who is going to fall on their face and who will not, but we all vary in predictions and predilections, anyways. I will bump your posts DPG when all the cliff jumping starts.

[DPG21920]

:lol Don't say I didn't warn people. Even when the Spurs win (which I anticipate plenty of) because of the nature of what I'm talking about it's not going to be easy.

Spurs fans have been mega spoiled. It's not just winning we've come to expect, but blowing teams out. Spurs fans aren't really used to blown leads and close games and wild swings because the bench coughs up leads.

It's going to happen even in wins.

[spurtech09]

:lol Don't say I didn't warn people. Even when the Spurs win (which I anticipate plenty of) because of the nature of what I'm talking about it's not going to be easy.

Spurs fans have been mega spoiled. It's not just winning we've come to expect, but blowing teams out. Spurs fans aren't really used to blown leads and close games and wild swings because the bench coughs up leads.

It's going to happen even in wins.Yes spoiled indeed.....

[GSH]

I'm honestly not worried about 50 wins unless Danny or others stay injured for a prolonged time. I think the team will win it will just be Bertans looking great one game, then terrible the next for example. Not that it will cost SA games every time, but finding consistency with young/new guys will be hard to come by early.

Most of the time when you are really young, you aren't expected to play for a contender. The SL is fine and vets- but other than Manu/Patty (and Lee, but new to the system) they all are relative noobs. I think there is a ton of potential and I think wins will be plentiful. Just more of a rollercoaster and those days of really large margins of victory may be over for a little while.


Heh. I was worried as hell about 50 wins during SL and the first part of pre-season. I guess the difference between us is that I don't really believe the Spurs are serious contenders this year. They're too weak at both 1 and 5 for that, IMO, even if the bench really gets their shit together. Hell, they could wind up being the third best team in the NBA, if things go right. But getting past both GSW and Cleveland? Not so much.

[spurtech09]

Imagine if Spurs had this same team back than Spurs would win a championship....Spurs fans are spoiled.....Back than guys like lee...Paul Gasol .....LMA.....wouldn't even come to SA.....Spurs fans have always wanted the big free agent and it never happened.....But now Spurs have talent on the roster and they still complain.....Yes spoiled Spurs fans...Love you guys but people don't appreciate nothing....Happy to have these guys on the Spurs .....Yes things are different now in the NBA....but the Spurs have a solid team to contend....

[YGWHI]

Spurs fans have been mega spoiled. It's not just winning we've come to expect, but blowing teams out.

In the past.

After Tim retirement, everyone has lowered expectations, also most part of the media is expecting for a Spurs' collapse. I guess most Spurs fans would be more than happy if this team gets 55 wins in the season playing 80 close games

[MaNu4Tres]

:lol You're my guy so I know where you come from most of the time. I got the 3-5 year thing from something you referenced earlier (about their health maybe). I'm not just talking about guys 11+ either. Guys 9-11 will play solid minutes and even those are questionmarks somewhat (not to the point it's worrisome).

Dedmon will be big and so will Lee. He's going to get PT and my "concern" is Pop and yo-yo's in the lineup and will he have patience to bring guys along and live with some mistakes?

It's a tricky spot for Pop and will be a big test.

Yeah I was speaking in jest. No worries. You're my guy as well. #hugs

My expectations have lessened from previous years. I just think Cavs and Warriors are on a level by themselves -- and it's not really close. We don't have the personnel to defend them and Gasol/Aldridge aren't dominating enough inside to make them pay. Both of their offensive games revolves a lot around the long two or midrange.

They'll win 55+ games, make it to the 2nd round at least and have a shot at the WCF -- where they might get 1 from the Warriors.

[T Park]

Jabari Young could predict that the sun is going to rise tomorrow morning, and I'd still have to hear it from a more credible source.



Showed that to a FO friend of mine and he literally LOl'ed at the truth of that.

[DPG21920]

In the past.

After Tim retirement, everyone has lowered expectations, also most part of the media is expecting for a Spurs' collapse. I guess most Spurs fans would be more than happy if this team gets 55 wins in the season playing 80 close games

Well, you have more faith in Spurs fans than me :lol. You're right, what you described is what should happen, but I still think there will be panic in the streets from fans.