Playoff talk

[DD]

To think I wanted Baez(historic strikeout rate) and Ross(generally useless on the field last year) gone this year in the off season. Never have I ever been so glad to be so wrong.

Congrats on the crazy win, b

[JoeTait75]

Cubs fans walking into work like George Jefferson this morning, I'm sure. You know those guys wanted nothing to do with a Game 5 at home.

[lefty20]

Congrats on the crazy win, b

:toast


Cubs fans walking into work like George Jefferson this morning, I'm sure. You know those guys wanted nothing to do with a Game 5 at home.

This feels great, no doubt. But the boys in blue got a lot of work ahead of them. 8 more wins worth, to be exact.

Obviously you never want it go to a do or die situation in baseball. But if it must, then these Cubs playing at Wrigley is in fact the best case scenario. Their home numbers(pitching, hitting & fielding) were downright dominant.

[Pelicans78]

Seriously wtf happened to Murphy last fall? Dude has been unreal since the start of the 15 Playoffs, he should've won the World Series MVP as well.

How do you figure? He sucked in the World Series.

[lefty20]

How do you figure? He sucked in the World Series.

Yeah, I know. He should've won it for the Royals :downspin:

[JoeTait75]

Obviously you never want it go to a do or die situation in baseball. But if it must, then these Cubs playing at Wrigley is in fact the best case scenario. Their home numbers(pitching, hitting & fielding) were downright dominant.

I get all that, but sometimes there's less pressure on the road. There are so many ghosts at Wrigley. Either way it was huge for them to win Game 4, especially how they won. Coming back like that has got to be a huge psychological boost not only to the Cubs themselves but to their fans. When you're always waiting for the other shoe to drop and it doesn't, that's major.

At any rate, I'd like to see a 1995 Indians-type outcome for the Cubs- win a ton of games, have one of the best seasons in franchise history, get to the World Series for the first time in eons, then lose (to my Tribe, natch.) If the Indians weren't in it, I have to admit that despite my dread at how obnoxious their fans would be, I'd like to see the Cubs pull it off.

[Pelicans78]

Yeah, I know. He should've won it for the Royals :downspin:

That is true. I would have given him my vote :toast

[Robz4000]

Scherzer spitting fire tonight, though it helps the Dodgers are pretty inept...

:lmao how the hell do you leave the bases loaded five times in a series?!

[Robz4000]

Welp, guess this is where the Nationals choke.

[Robz4000]

Damn, dis gettin gud...

[Chris]

Dodger choke?

[Clipper Nation]

:lol The Dodgers are actually bringing in Kerchoke, one of the least clutch pitchers in baseball, to close a winner-take-all playoff game. Bold strategy, Cotton, let's see if it pays off.

Edit: Never mind, Jansen is on the mound. Guess someone told Roberts how retarded that idea was.

[Robz4000]

Nope, here comes Kershaw...

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao They're actually bringing him in!

[Robz4000]

Welp, really thought Murphy would get it done.

[Thread]

:lmao They're actually bringing him in!

You gd rights. CK put 'em down like fuckin' dogs.

[Thread]

Welp, really thought Murphy would get it done.

Well, daddy, you thought wrong.

CK erased 'em. Like they weren't even there.

[Clipper Nation]

I guess the Curse of Les Boulez trumps the Kershaw choke gene.

[midnightpulp]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

The NLDS game 5 curse is finally over.

Now I can watch the NLCS stress free, since I won't be too mad if the Cubs win.

Jansen and Hill were men tonight. Love Kersh, but ain't gonna blow him. He SHOULD be able to get two guys out, 1 day rest or not. His post-season demons still aren't exorcised, imo.

[Thread]

Love Kersh, but ain't gonna blow him. He SHOULD be able to get two guys out, 1 day rest or not.

& that is exactly what he did. Had to sit there and take it, Midst. Don't worry, dad, you weren't alone. Media was sittin' right next to ya.

muhahahahahahahahahahha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[midnightpulp]

& that is exactly what he did. Had to sit there and take it, Midst. Don't worry, dad, you weren't alone. Media was sittin' right next to ya.

muhahahahahahahahahahha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He needs to really dominate next series for all the questions to be erased (at least until the World Series). Tonight was a hell of a start, though :toast

[Chris]

Media was sittin' right next to ya.

Arn

[lefty20]

Silver lining is that Kershaw prolly can't pitch before game 3. Cubbies really gotta come outta the gates 2-0 here in this situation. Anything less is simply unacceptable.

[Pelicans78]

Big surprise; Nats choke again in the first round. Move their asses back to Montreal.

[JoeTait75]

Andrew Miller is just disgusting.

[midnightpulp]

Congrats, Joe and Thread.

Looks like it's going to be a magical year for Cleveland sports, with an NBA title and at least a pennant (I know the ALCS isn't over, but your pitching and bullpen are just too deep, while your offense is just as good as the Jays).

[JoeTait75]

Congrats, Joe and Thread.

Looks like it's going to be a magical year for Cleveland sports, with an NBA title and at least a pennant (I know the ALCS isn't over, but your pitching and bullpen are just too deep, while your offense is just as good as the Jays).

How bout them Dodgers, Pulp?

[midnightpulp]

How bout them Dodgers, Pulp?

Finally clutched one out. We're massive dogs vs. the Cubs, so I won't be too upset if we lose that series. Hope Kersh at least has a good outing against them. In any event, mission accomplished for the season. I'm cool with reaching the NLCS.

[JoeTait75]

Finally clutched one out. We're massive dogs vs. the Cubs, so I won't be too upset if we lose that series. Hope Kersh at least has a good outing against them. In any event, mission accomplished for the season. I'm cool with reaching the NLCS.

Obviously I want the Tribe to go all the way, but I'm going to be happy with them regardless of what happens from here on out. I don't even want to think about losing right now, though.

[Thread]

Congrats, Joe and Thread (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320).

Looks like it's going to be a magical year for Cleveland sports, with an NBA title and at least a pennant (I know the ALCS isn't over, but your pitching and bullpen are just too deep, while your offense is just as good as the Jays).

Won't be mine, but, I'm happy for Joe & Cleveland.

[Thread]

Silver lining is that Kershaw prolly can't pitch before game 3.


He would if they lost Game 1. You can't go back to California 0-2. It won't work that way.

[lefty20]

He would if they lost Game 1. You can't go back to California 0-2. It won't work that way.

That would be quite impressive. Especially, if he were to pitch well.

[resistanze]

Just took a few days layoff and Jays offense are back to the league worst it was in September. smh.

[Robz4000]

Just took a few days layoff and Jays offense are back to the league worst it was in September. smh.

Rangers made them look much better than they were tbh.

[resistanze]

Rangers made them look much better than they were tbh.

Definitely truth in this. They had the worst offense in the majors for a month before Texas.

Throwing Miller out there is just pouring salt on the wound. Tomlin was owning the Jays plenty.

[Chris]

Hope the Jays get swept

[Robz4000]

Hope the Jays get swept

Same

[lefty20]

That escalated quickly.

[midnightpulp]

Good game, lefty. Cubs magic continues. We don't have the firepower.

[lefty20]

:toast. Made us sweat for a while there. Not sure about Joe taking Lester out early, but he played his bench perfectly so there's that. Crucial gm 1 win, especially with Kershaw pitching next game.

[Robz4000]

Honestly, if anything, this game made me think the Doyers have a shot. If they win tomorrow I think they have the advantage.

[midnightpulp]

Honestly, if anything, this game made me think the Doyers have a shot. If they win tomorrow I think they have the advantage.

We were definitely hitting the ball hard all night and making the Cubs defense work, but aside from Kersh, we just don't have another shutdown ace. Meanwhile, the Dodgers have to go through the 4 headed monster of Lester, Hendricks, Arrieta, and Lackey.

But it's baseball, where the choke factor is obscenely high, so you never know.

[lefty20]

No sign of fatigue in that inning. Might be a long night for the Cubbies.

[lefty20]

:worthy: Kershaw

[lefty20]

lets hope he doesn't beat us 4 times in this series.

[Robz4000]

Kershaw shedding his choking ways before our eyes, it seems.

[lefty20]

That was painful to watch. I'm not sure how Kershaw ever struggled in the postseason with the kind of stuff he displayed tonight. On to Rich Hill now.

[midnightpulp]

Great game. Kersh shedding some of the choking label.

That was basically an elimination game, since the Dodgers would have zero chance at the series if they blew Kershaw's start. Cubs are still big faves. I actually think Dodger stadium works more in the Cubs' favor due to their power and speed. And you have to like Arrieta and Lackey against Hill and Urias. In any event, just happy Kershaw didn't blow it for once.

[midnightpulp]

That was painful to watch. I'm not sure how Kershaw ever struggled in the postseason with the kind of stuff he displayed tonight. On to Rich Hill now.

Basically against one team, your mortal enemies, who've broken many a hearts.

[Thread]

It's Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday straight in LA. You almost have to bring CK back on Wednesday so you can call him again in Chicago.

[DD]

gutsy performance from CK...would be awesome if the Dodgers could win 2/3 in LA

[Pelicans78]

Basically against one team, your mortal enemies, who've broken many a hearts.

I can't stand those motherfuckers either. Best fans in baseball my ass.

[Thread]

gutsy performance from CK...would be awesome if the Dodgers could win 2/3 in LA

It's on Hill. He has to provide the bridge twixt CK & KJ.

He doesn't have to be perfect, but, he's got to be really close.

& Roberts must resist the urge to go conventional and open up that rotation. It's too late for that, much too late. You have to go for it now. Grab the riding crop and lead them to the mound again & again. They want to be led, by Roberts. They'll do whatever he tells them to do. Tell them---Lead them.

He must pitch CK in Los Angeles and if necessary back in Chicago. However it has to be planned out it must happen. He must make 3 starts.

[resistanze]

htf did Bauer even start this game? that's disgusting

[Robz4000]

htf did Bauer even start this game? that's disgusting

Wanted it to be his Curt Schilling moment

[JoeTait75]

Like this Tribe team a lot more than the 2005/2007 Indians, who were probably more talented but a bunch of chokers with an idiot manager.

One win away. Get this thing over with before we lose another pitcher for God's sake.

[Robz4000]

:lol Blue Cucks

[midnightpulp]

Tribe is scary. Speed and range at the key positions, big bats, and shutdown pitching. I think they're the odds on faves right now.

[HarlemHeat37]

100% chance that Andrew Miller is on that Eric Gagne diet, tbh:lol

[midnightpulp]

100% chance that Andrew Miller is on that Eric Gagne diet, tbh:lol

:lol

Honestly, he doesn't really over power hitters. He has a 6'7" frame with that sweeping delivery that is just a bitch to hit, a la Randy Johnson or even Bumgarner (he's 4" shorter, but is also a lefty with a wide delivery and knee breaking curve).

Jays really need to send Martin to the glue factory. They also need more speed at the top of the lineup and in right field. Bautista is too slow for the outfield now. According to the metrics, the fly ball he missed in the first inning that turned into a double was caught 98% of the time.

[Thread]

***That catch by Crisp. So fucking professional. All that focus on the game in progress.

***Napoli using all that experience to KNOW that fly ball is going to fall. Not even a risk. He knew it.

***Blue Jays giving away at bat after at bat. You shouldn't do that April - September. You cannot do that in October.

[resistanze]

:lol Blue Cucks

:lol This team literally got up just to shit on the Rangers, then went back to being shit again.

[midnightpulp]

:lol This team literally got up just to shit on the Rangers, then went back to being shit again.

Indians are a juggernaut right now. Went through a Sox team every one had pegged as a shoe-in for the pennant like they weren't there. Jays have a nice foundation with their pitching staff and defense. 3rd in the AL in ERA+ and 1st in the AL in defensive efficiency. Funny enough, it's the offense that's the problem. The Jays were just slightly above league average in OPS and OPS+ and lead the league in grounding into double plays.

Pillar needs to work on his swing and turn into a viable lead off hitter, Martin needs the old yeller treatment, and Bautista should not be resigned. A few tweaks, and you guys will contend next year again.

[Robz4000]

:lol This team literally got up just to shit on the Rangers, then went back to being shit again.

Didn't wanna see the Blue Jays win the series, but I was kinda hoping to see them force it to six or seven games; makes the Rangers' choke look a lot worse.

[resistanze]

Indians are a juggernaut right now. Went through a Sox team every one had pegged as a shoe-in for the pennant like they weren't there. Jays have a nice foundation with their pitching staff and defense. 3rd in the AL in ERA+ and 1st in the AL in defensive efficiency. Funny enough, it's the offense that's the problem. The Jays were just slightly above league average in OPS and OPS+ and lead the league in grounding into double plays.

Pillar needs to work on his swing and turn into a viable lead off hitter, Martin needs the old yeller treatment, and Bautista should not be resigned. A few tweaks, and you guys will contend next year again.

Pillar is just too impatient to ever be a leadoff guy imo. As Great as Cleveland has been, the Jays at bats have been laughable (as they were over the last month of the season, with the league-worst offense).

Their inability to drive home RISP is probably bordering on historic. To have Bautista blame the strike zone (iffy at times) openly is just silly. There's no reason why Miller should be striking out 80%+ of the lineup over the course of 3 games. Or not being able to get to Tomlin at all in game 2.

[resistanze]

Didn't wanna see the Blue Jays win the series, but I was kinda hoping to see them force it to six or seven games; makes the Rangers' choke look a lot worse.

Yeah they were playing extremely poor, I'm actually shocked at the ALDS. They were clearly motivated by revenge :lol

[midnightpulp]

Didn't wanna see the Blue Jays win the series, but I was kinda hoping to see them force it to six or seven games; makes the Rangers' choke look a lot worse.

I don't think the Rangers choked. Looking at their stats, they ranked just slightly above average in all the key metrics, while Jays were top 3 in ERA+ and defeff.

Texas was kind of like the 2011 Spurs. A decent team that gutted out wins and performed far above expectation.

[Robz4000]

Indians are a juggernaut right now. Went through a Sox team every one had pegged as a shoe-in for the pennant like they weren't there. Jays have a nice foundation with their pitching staff and defense. 3rd in the AL in ERA+ and 1st in the AL in defensive efficiency. Funny enough, it's the offense that's the problem. The Jays were just slightly above league average in OPS and OPS+ and lead the league in grounding into double plays.

Pillar needs to work on his swing and turn into a viable lead off hitter, Martin needs the old yeller treatment, and Bautista should not be resigned. A few tweaks, and you guys will contend next year again.

The Red Sox looked good for about a month towards the end of the season, then fell into a big slump going into the playoffs. The rest of their season was a good offense and an inconsistent defense with terrible pitching; they were the favorites because the rest of the crop was mediocre (Blue Jays/Indians)/prone to choking (Rangers/Orioles). Indians have turned it on and look like they did early on, but some of the credit has to go to the AL just not being up to par.

[midnightpulp]

Pillar is just too impatient to ever be a leadoff guy imo. As Great as Cleveland has been, the Jays at bats have been laughable (as they were over the last month of the season, with the league-worst offense).

Their inability to drive home RISP is probably bordering on historic. To have Bautista blame the strike zone (iffy at times) openly is just silly. There's no reason why Miller should be striking out 80%+ of the lineup over the course of 3 games. Or not being able to get to Tomlin at all in game 2.

I think that patience can be taught. And yeah, the Jays offense has been dead for two months. But like in any sport, defense wins titles, and the Jays pitching and defense were elite this season, and all the players who contributed to that are young, so the Jays have a bright future.

[Robz4000]

I don't think the Rangers choked. Looking at their stats, they ranked just slightly above average in all the key metrics, while Jays were top 3 in ERA+ and defeff.

Texas was kind of like the 2011 Spurs. A decent team that gutted out wins and performed far above expectation.

Rangers choked in every way imaginable: their "Aces" got annihilated, their best hitters (Beltre, Andrus, Odor) batted well below .200, they failed to convert routine defensive plays, Banister played horrid lineups and continued to use relievers that got lit up all season, and when they actually managed to get runners on and into scoring position they couldn't score them. While the Rangers were definitely not as good as their record indicated (despite looking that way in May/June), they should've gone at least five in the ALDS and prolly won it.

[midnightpulp]

Rangers choked in every way imaginable: their "Aces" got annihilated, their best hitters (Beltre, Andrus, Odor) batted well below .200, they failed to convert routine defensive plays, Banister played horrid lineups and continued to use relievers that got lit up all season, and when they actually managed to get runners on and into scoring position they couldn't score them. While the Rangers were definitely not as good as their record indicated (despite looking that way in May/June), they should've gone at least five in the ALDS and prolly won it.

But that begs the question, was it a choke or just the Rangers being the Rangers? :lol

They had only a +8 run differential for a reason, and I think those reasons reared their head in the series.

But I do agree they choked on some key plays. In a vacuum, however, I think the Jays are the better team. Better on "paper" at every aspect of the game.

[Robz4000]

But that begs the question, was it a choke or just the Rangers being the Rangers? :lol

They had only a +8 run differential for a reason, and I think those reasons reared their head in the series.

But I do agree they choked on some key plays. In a vacuum, however, I think the Jays are the better team. Better on "paper" at every aspect of the game.

Average stats in the regular season or not, you don't leave 20 men on base in a series or have several players fumble routine ground balls multiple times a game.

[Darth_Pelican]

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[DD]

fuck you, Jobu...I do this myself

[Darth_Pelican]

fuck you, Jobu...I do this myself

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[resistanze]

I feel like if there was a definite game for the Indians to burn, it was this once. Hence I'm a bit surprised Francona went with Kluber rather than for Game 5 (if it came to that).

[lefty20]

This would be a good time for Hill to get re-acclimated with those control issues he had with the Cubs in 08'.

[JoeTait75]

I feel like if there was a definite game for the Indians to burn, it was this once. Hence I'm a bit surprised Francona went with Kluber rather than for Game 5 (if it came to that).

Bauer's accident made it a necessity. If Tito ran out Kluber on regular rest in Game 5 he would not have a Game 7 starter... at all. Pitch him today and they can come back to him in Game 7 on three days' rest if it comes to that. Not ideal, but better than starting Ryan Merritt in Game 7 of the ALCS.

For a team with a 3-1 lead the Indians are in a really tenuous position. Right now their rotation is completely cashed. I'm trying not to get pissed at Bauer, but it's tough. He really hurt the team with that drone accident, and then he's taunting the Toronto fans and mouthing off on Twitter after Game 3. He needs to lay low and hope the team bails his butt out.

[resistanze]

Bauer's accident made it a necessity. If Tito ran out Kluber on regular rest in Game 5 he would not have a Game 7 starter... at all. Pitch him today and they can come back to him in Game 7 on three days' rest if it comes to that. Not ideal, but better than starting Ryan Merritt in Game 7 of the ALCS.

For a team with a 3-1 lead the Indians are in a really tenuous position. Right now their rotation is completely cashed. I'm trying not to get pissed at Bauer, but it's tough. He really hurt the team with that drone accident, and then he's taunting the Toronto fans and mouthing off on Twitter after Game 3. He needs to lay low and hope the team bails his butt out.

I'm just in the frame of mind that...should Indians really be looking at Game 7? I know it may sound short-sighted but there's a reason why only 1 team in the last century has come back from 3-0. I just feel they should set themselves up to close this series ASAP vs trying to set up for down the road. Merritt loses game 4, oh well (look what the BP was able to do after Bauer got hurt). You got Kluber on full rest for Game 5. I'd hate to be Kluber in a game 7 where the opposing team just came back from 0-3 in any case.

[JoeTait75]

I'm just in the frame of mind that...should Indians really be looking at Game 7? I know it may sound short-sighted but there's a reason why only 1 team in the last century has come back from 3-0. I just feel they should set themselves up to close this series ASAP vs trying to set up for down the road. Merritt loses game 4, oh well (look what the BP was able to do after Bauer got hurt). You got Kluber on full rest for Game 5. I'd hate to be Kluber in a game 7 where the opposing team just came back from 0-3 in any case.

I get what you're saying but there just aren't any ideal options right now with the state of the Tribe's starters being what it is. At least they didn't use Miller and Cody Allen today, that's one bright spot from our POV. Sanchez pitched a hell of a game today, BTW. Toronto is just too good to get swept.

[resistanze]

I get what you're saying but there just aren't any ideal options right now with the state of the Tribe's starters being what it is. At least they didn't use Miller and Cody Allen today, that's one bright spot from our POV. Sanchez pitched a hell of a game today, BTW. Toronto is just too good to get swept.

Sanchez came through for sure. Now I still give the Jays a <10% chance of coming back but if they get to Merritt early it can get interesting. I don't see Jays getting to Miller this series. And I'll probably root for Indians vs whoever comes out of the NL.

[Robz4000]

:lol thinking the Blue Jays will win four in a row. Indians will close this out tomorrow.

[Robz4000]

Yep, sorry Cubs fans; don't think this team is quite ready to go all the way.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol The Cubs and Indians are remembering who they really are, tbh. Nobody should be surprised if it's a Jays/Dodgers World Series.

[lefty20]

looks like it's about time for the bats to wake up.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol thinking the Blue Jays will win four in a row. Indians will close this out tomorrow.

It's not out of the question, tbh. They just did it against the Orioles and Rangers. And Cleveland's starting pitching is looking real shaky now. Toronto has a great pitching staff who should keep it close, they just can't afford to stop scoring runs again.

[Robz4000]

It's not out of the question, tbh. They just did it against the Orioles and Rangers. And Cleveland's starting pitching is looking real shaky now. Toronto has a great pitching staff who should keep it close, they just can't afford to stop scoring runs again.

The Orioles and Rangers are known chokers tbh; winning four in a row against the likes of those two is different than winning four in a row against a team with this much talent on both sides of the ball. Yes, their starting pitching might be in trouble, but Cleveland still has an elite bullpen capable of winning games by themselves.

[Clipper Nation]

The Orioles and Rangers are known chokers tbh
So are the Indians, historically.

[Robz4000]

So are the Indians, historically.

I mean more recently. This iteration of the Indians has yet to choke, albeit losing a 3-0 lead would be par for the course for Cleveland.

[lefty20]

Meh, Cubs only need to win one outta these three. They are still the better team and I fully expect them to show just that, preferably before next spring.

[Ball Buster]

Meh, Cubs only need to win one outta these three. They are still the better team and I fully expect them to show just that, preferably before next spring.

That's cool and all, but those niggas haven't scored a run in two games. And as I type this Dodgers score again woot!

[lefty20]

That's cool and all, but those niggas haven't scored a run in two games. And as I type this Dodgers score again woot!

Dodgers blowing their entire load this game. Cubs saving it for the big finish, obviously.

[lefty20]

Also Fuck Rich Hill, where was this shit in 07 & 08 bro? Nigga was my favorite Cubbie(along with Ted Lilly). Instead we got a compete and total mental breakdown.

[JoeTait75]

:lol thinking the Blue Jays will win four in a row. Indians will close this out tomorrow.

Maybe, I don't know. I actually think Toronto has a better club than the Indians just in terms of their overall roster. My concern is that this series will regress to the mean, meaning these two clubs should go six or seven based on how they compare overall. That's what happened in the 2007 ALCS, imo: the Red Sox were better than the Indians and the series ended really as it should've all along.

Of course, the Indians haven't lost more than three games in a row all season, so there is that. But the longer this series goes on the more it "favours" Toronto. I'll be nervous until the 27th out of the fourth win for the Tribe.

[JoeTait75]

So are the Indians, historically.

TBH for a lot of their history the Indians haven't been chokers, they've just sucked. When you're going 60-102, 61-101 and 57-105 that isn't choking, you just blow.

Mesa, I know, but teams blow one-run ninth-inning leads all the time. It could have happened in April against the Twins.

[midnightpulp]

Hill pitched a fuckin' shiny diamond tonight. His curveball and control were spot on all night aside from the 2nd. Dodgers really excel against right handed pitching, so this game isn't too much of a surprise, even against Arrieta. Urias tomorrow, which will be a tough one to win. Kid has great stuff, but I'm not sure he's ready for this big of a moment. Then Maeda in game 5 supposedly, but if we lose tomorrow, then I think Kersh goes again on short rest, setting up a possible bullpen platoon game for a game 7 (Rich Hill, Kersh in the Madbum role, and Jansen to close). That's how I'd do if I were Roberts.

Series ain't over by a long shot.

[Thread]

Maeda on Wednesday.
CK on Thursday.

If necessa:::

Hill in Game 6
CK in Game 7 with everybody in the bullpen and available.

He should not have disturbed KJ tonite.

[Thread]

Toronto got up off the mat---Francona immediately went to Miller...knocked 'em back on their ass.

[resistanze]

Congrats to Cleveland. Their pitching (esp. Miller) made an already struggling Jays offense look amateurish all series long.

[Fabbs]

Maeda on Wednesday.
CK on Thursday.

If necessa:::

Hill in Game 6
CK in Game 7 with everybody in the bullpen and available.

He should not have disturbed KJ tonite.
Thread do you think Magic could offer any of the Cubs gay players blow jobs and tire them out?

[JoeTait75]

The Cleveland Indians are going to the World Series. Unbelievable.

[lefty20]

Thread do you think Magic could offer any of the Cubs gay players blow jobs and tire them out?

iirc, sports science proved that athletes perform marginally better after sex. This way we might actually score a run.

[Thread]

Thread do you think Magic could offer any of the Cubs gay players blow jobs and tire them out?

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[midnightpulp]

Congrats to Joe and Cub! Is the most magical year in Cleveland sports history?

[Thread]

Congrats to Cleveland. Their pitching (esp. Miller) made an already struggling Jays offense look amateurish all series long.

Decisive managerial application by Francona. Couple that with no respect of an at bat by Toronto hitters. Jesus, they just give up if it ain't piped in.

I'd give my left nut have the next Dodgers road trip into my birth place.

[Robz4000]

:lol people who thought the Blue Jays of all teams would overcome a 3-0 deficit

[Thread]

Congrats to Joe and Cub! Is the most magical year in Cleveland sports history?

I ain't eligible. This is Joe's. I disavowed them when they moved off Lake Erie.

Though an Indians/Dodgers WS would cleanse my heart that hates.

[Thread]

:lol people who thought the Blue Jays of all teams would overcome a 3-0 deficit

Media is taking it hard. They're bitter.

[Robz4000]

Media is taking it hard. They're bitter.

That "Legendary Donaldson Slide" bullshit they were mentioning was ridiculous. They couldn't hide how wet the prospect of a Toronto comeback made them.

[Pelicans78]

The Cleveland Indians are going to the World Series. Unbelievable.

That's how I felt two years ago when the Royals made the World Series :toast

[resistanze]

Decisive managerial application by Francona. Couple that with no respect of an at bat by Toronto hitters. Jesus, they just give up if it ain't piped in.

I'd give my left nut have the next Dodgers road trip into my birth place.
Francona has been brilliant with the matchups. But yes, the Jays bats were AA level. Bautista is pretty much done.

Their offense looked alive for one week, against a fraudulent Rangers team, but really they've been dead in the water since later August (when the blew winning the division).

[resistanze]

WC Game:
Blue Jays 5 Orioles 3
Giants 4 Mets 1

Division Series:
Blue Jays over Rangers 3-1
Red Sox over Indians 3-1
Giants over Cubs 3-2
Dodgers over Nationals 3-2

LCS:
Boston over Blue Jays 4-1
Giants over Dodgers 4-2

WS:
Red Sox over Giants 4-3

I meant Cleveland tbh

[JoeTait75]

Congrats to Joe and Cub! Is the most magical year in Cleveland sports history?

As of now I would say it's 1948 (Tribe won the WS, the old Barons won the Calder Cup and the Browns went undefeated in the old AAFC.) If the Tribe finishes the deal and the Browns, um, win one game, it'll be this year. I'll tell you what, though, I never thought I'd see a year like 2016 in this town. It's been amazing.

[lefty20]

Somebody needs to check our bats for holes, tbh.

[lefty20]

At least we got the big brother on our side. Thnx for messing it up New York, we owe u one.

[Robz4000]

Gonzo was safe by a mile. League really wants the Cubs in the WS.

[Fabbs]

:lol CubsUmp in the replay booth.

[lefty20]

Gonzo was safe by a mile. League really wants the Cubs in the WS.

Yeah, I hope they pull Hernandez to the side and let him in on this. Lackey should have a couple more strikeouts. There's always that one self-righteous bitch that ruins the fun for everyone else, no?

[Fabbs]

sup with these noodle armed throws from the outfielders?
One from Cub and one from Dodger.

[Robz4000]

Not saying this one is over, but if things stay this way its setting up for one hell of a Game 5.

[Robz4000]

That'll do it actually...

[lefty20]

Hernandez finally on board with this. Good man.

[Fabbs]

Cubs get momentum right back. 6-2

[lefty20]

These at-bats are more like what I saw in the reg season.

[JoeTait75]

Got to give the Cubbies a lot of props. They were on the ropes and they've responded like great teams do.

[lefty20]

And now it's turned into little league game out there.

[Biernutz]

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/morning_picdump_2029_640_07_zpsbbkpnmov.jpg

[Thread]

I knew it was a mistake to go to Urias. Inexplicable move by Roberts. The dumb shit. He may get his back up now and refuse to send CK out there tomorrow.

I knew he wouldn't be able to walk the line. Had to get cute. The fuck.

[lefty20]

I knew it was a mistake to go to Urias. Inexplicable move by Roberts. The dumb shit. He may get his back up now and refuse to send CK out there tomorrow.

I knew he wouldn't be able to walk the line. Had to get cute. The fuck.

Who would you have gone with?

[lefty20]

Good shit. Glad to have Lester take the mound for a pivotal game 5.

[Thread]

Who would you have gone with?

Maeda, then CK. He had the opportunity to NOT have to return to Chicago. Now, he has to.

It's piss pot. Totally unnecessary to use Urias there. He's got a big fuckin' head now.

Gee, this gets ESPN off suicide watch. Motherfuckers.

[lefty20]

Maeda, then CK. He had the opportunity to NOT have to return to Chicago. Now, he has to.

Fair point. One would worry about possibly overtaxing CK, but if Roberts wasn't worried bout that during the game 5 save or following it up with a game 2 start than why start now indeed.

[Thread]

Fair point. One would worry about possibly overtaxing CK, but if Roberts wasn't worried bout that during the game 5 save or following it up with a game 2 start than why start now indeed.

Just because you start him doesn't automatically mean he has to go 7-9 innings. Just get him started and count back from 9.

Got to get that 1st run in the playoffs. It's powerful and fucks with the opponents mind & mindset.

I just pray he comes to his senses tonite & starts CK tomorrow nite. Have to win it tomorrow nite to even stand a chance in Chicago. Even then you'll have to bring CK back for 7 if we lose 6.

[midnightpulp]

GG, Lefty. Urias has a bright future, and he didn't necessarily pitch badly, just made a couple of rookie mistakes. If he would've stayed high in the zone with fastballs against Heyward and just spam curveballs against Russell, he probably gets out the inning giving up only one run.

Roberts is in a tough spot now. Do you roll out Kershaw tomorrow? Lester is a big time post-season lefty, and the Dodgers are totally anemic against lefties. I don't see any scenario aside from a complete Cubs' meltdown where Kenta Maeda, et al come out of this with a win.

I think you have to go for broke here. Can't see the Dodgers taking two straight in Wrigley facing Hendricks and Arrieta.

But Roberts could also be thinking if he starts Kershaw in game 5, and he loses, then it's game over. On the other hand, if the Dodgers lose tomorrow, you have a fully rested Kershaw going in game 6. Win that, and all the pressure shifts to the Cubs obviously for a game 7 in which Arrieta will start, who is probably the pitcher the Dodgers match up best with.

It's not an easy decision for Roberts, and speaks to how our starting rotation is simply over matched.

[Thread]

It's confirmed, Maeda will start tonite.

We'll live to regret this decision.

[Fabbs]

Now why don't they use all the technology to show at this exact same time an angle which shows if his hand has lowered to the plate -or not.

Farking all the technology in the world but still have phucktard humans fixing games.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvLvP9CUkAA3PVe.jpg

[Pelicans78]

It's confirmed, Maeda will start tonite.

We'll live to regret this decision.

Kershaw hasn't proven he can pitch great on 3 days rest. He'll win Game 6 for you guys.

[Thread]

Now why don't they use all the technology to show at this exact same time an angle which shows if his hand has lowered to the plate -or not.

Farking all the technology in the world but still have phucktard humans fixing games.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvLvP9CUkAA3PVe.jpg

Or, put a sensor in the plate.

[Thread]

Kershaw hasn't proven he can pitch great on 3 days rest. He'll win Game 6 for you guys.


(Having too) & (needing too) are 2 entirely different challenges. We didn't have to leave California for Illinois, we needed to leave California for Ohio.

[lefty20]

Now why don't they use all the technology to show at this exact same time an angle which shows if his hand has lowered to the plate -or not.

Farking all the technology in the world but still have phucktard humans fixing games.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvLvP9CUkAA3PVe.jpg

Fingers seems to be hovering over the plate. We see this in NFL all the time... incontrovertible proof or no overturn.

[Pelicans78]

Yeah looks like his hand was in the air.

[Fabbs]

Or, put a sensor in the plate.
Could easily be done.

Stay tuned i will start a thread about an HBO docu that has an ex MLB player proposing exactly stuff like this. They set up a stadium with all kinds of stuff and got the accuracy to virtually 100%. Apparently an appalling 14 calls per game, be it ball-strikes or whatever are in error.

Also the field all set up with electro stuff and the practice game played -did not slow down the game one iota.

[midnightpulp]

Cub called it. Maeda is garbage. Triple AAA level stuff.

[lefty20]

Good start, just what the doctor ordered.

[lefty20]

Ugghh! Terrible call there

[lefty20]

This umps gotta go

[lefty20]

Atta boy Johnny!

[lefty20]

Dodger with that big juicy strike zone today... must be nice.

[lefty20]

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQfo_L9UyziJDPhCcpiUgW3bnOvPWXWo 4AIGFXJTW7aaK4wCmVqHQ

[resistanze]

Ouch.

[lefty20]

JaVP better be fucking OK.

[lefty20]

god damn strikes Stropy

[Robz4000]

:lol Doyers really what all over themselves the last two games

[Fabbs]

Just because you start him doesn't automatically mean he has to go 7-9 innings. Just get him started and count back from 9.

Got to get that 1st run in the playoffs. It's powerful and fucks with the opponents mind & mindset.

I just pray he comes to his senses tonite & starts CK tomorrow nite. Have to win it tomorrow nite to even stand a chance in Chicago. Even then you'll have to bring CK back for 7 if we lose 6.
Thread called it.
What a cluster for Dodgers now.

Thread you are now in the managers seat. What now?

[lefty20]

ok time to stop dicking around with that breaking pitch.

[Thread]

Thread called it.
What a cluster for Dodgers now.

Thread you are now in the managers seat. What now?

You start CK in 6 and try to bank a lead of some import so you can sneak him out and hold him back for 7. If that doesn't work you must leave him in as long as needed to save Jansen & Hill for 7. Then you send CK to bullpen in 7, he ain't to sit in the dugout. Have Hill go as far as is prudent then bring Jansen and finish it with CK. Don't try and finish it with Jansen. Switch it to CK. It's his time.

[lefty20]

GG. Let's end it on Saturday.

[midnightpulp]

I told you guys we're over matched. Cubs have the much better bats 1-8, are leagues faster and more athletic, have 4 aces, most with big game experience, and have probably been the best team this year in "high leverage" situations.

Cub was right that Roberts should've started Kershaw. Try to go up 3-2, because, as I said, it was going to take a collapse for Maeda et al to beat Lester. Maeda did well after that shit start, but he didn't eat enough innings. Also it's evident Blanton and Baez are mental midgets.

[Thread]

I told you guys we're over matched. Cubs have the much better bats 1-8, are leagues faster and more athletic, have 4 aces, most with big game experience, and have probably been the best team this year in "high leverage" situations.

Cub was right that Roberts should've started Kershaw. Try to go up 3-2, because, as I said, it was going to take a collapse for Maeda et al to beat Lester. Maeda did well after that shit start, but he didn't eat enough innings. Also it's evident Blanton and Baez are mental midgets.

CK had to make 3 starts in this series. That won't happen. He can still make 3 appearances.

& now CK is under ELE conditions. Eh, a fucking nightmare now.

[Robz4000]

I told you guys we're over matched. Cubs have the much better bats 1-8, are leagues faster and more athletic, have 4 aces, most with big game experience, and have probably been the best team this year in "high leverage" situations.

Cub was right that Roberts should've started Kershaw. Try to go up 3-2, because, as I said, it was going to take a collapse for Maeda et al to beat Lester. Maeda did well after that shit start, but he didn't eat enough innings. Also it's evident Blanton and Baez are mental midgets.

Still like the Dodgers' chances. Their inability to hit lefties is ridiculous, but thankfully they won't see Lester again this series and they've done well enough against Hendricks and Arrieta. They also get Kershaw in game 6; could be another situation he chokes but, if not, you get a winner-take-all in game 7 with all the pressure on the Cubs.

[lefty20]

Still like the Dodgers' chances. Their inability to hit lefties is ridiculous, but thankfully they won't see Lester again this series and they've done well enough against Hendricks and Arrieta. They also get Kershaw in game 6; could be another situation he chokes but, if not, you get a winner-take-all in game 7 with all the pressure on the Cubs.

They scored one run on a wind assisted home run, tbh. Winning one at Wrigley is hard, winning two requires luck and winning 3... ain't happening. Better team should win out in the end, considering they've literally got the edge from 1 to 25 plus Managing.

[Robz4000]

They scored one run on a wind assisted home run, tbh. Winning one at Wrigley is hard, winning two requires luck and winning 3... ain't happening. Better team should win out in the end, considering they've literally got the edge from 1 to 25 plus Managing.

We'll see; gonna be a lot of tight assholes at Wrigley this weekend.

[lefty20]

We'll see; gonna be a lot of tight assholes at Wrigley this weekend.

The fans sure, but certainly not the players. Anyone watching the Cubs should know this by now.

[Robz4000]

The fans sure, but certainly not the players. Anyone watching the Cubs should know this by now.

They haven't faced the level of pressure they'll see this weekend before. So far they've handled it admirably, but you don't just shrug off 100 years of it. If they get through this and finish it, they'll be really loose for the WS.

[lefty20]

They haven't faced the level of pressure they'll see this weekend before. So far they've handled it admirably, but you don't just shrug off 100 years of it. If they get through this and finish it, they'll be really loose for the WS.

I'm sure they'll simply embrace the target, and simply try not to suck out there.

[JoeTait75]

The fans sure, but certainly not the players. Anyone watching the Cubs should know this by now.

I agree. Every time the Cubs have been in a tight spot in this postseason they've responded in a huge way. I expect them to beat Kershaw and punch their ticket in Game 6.

[lefty20]

Gotta agree with Jesse Rogers here, it's time to put in Almora Jr for Heyward. The defensive drop off there is minimal and I don't think anyone really wants to see J. Hey go up against CK.

[Robz4000]

Welp, let's see if the goat rears it's ugly head tonight.

[lefty20]

I'm liking this start so far.

[baseline bum]

God damnit Chokeshaw

[lefty20]

I'm okay with everything that's happening right now.

[lefty20]

Would've liked more runs, but I'll take 2 for now.

[Thread]

The bitter truth is that K is not a 1. He may be a 2, most likely a 3, but, he is just not a 1. We're going to have to admit that and shove him down to 3, put Maeda & Urias under him and go and buy a 1 & 2.

Damn, we were up 2-1 in this series with 2 more in CA.. This is a shame.

[Robz4000]

Cubs up 3-0. At home. In game 6. Of the NLCS. This seems familiar.

[resistanze]

:lol Chokeshaw

[lefty20]

Cubs up 3-0. At home. In game 6. Of the NLCS. This seems familiar.

Good thing that's the only thing familiar. Iirc, none of the current players were on the roster.

[Robz4000]

:lol Chokeshaw

[lefty20]

One run per inning seems like a solid way to play the game.

[lefty20]

Now all of the sudden he's not healthy :lol

[lefty20]

It's turned into a proper slurpfest now

[Thread]

Now all of the sudden he's not healthy :lol

Exactly. It's chickenshit. He failed, again.

[Thread]

It's turned into a proper slurpfest now

At least Media is happy. Such lilt in their tones now. Oh, it's all fun and frolic. Wait till Tuesday nite and they're sitting in Cleveland. All they'll do is question how the Indians managed to get home file advantage. They'll have a field day.

[Robz4000]

Now all of the sudden he's not healthy :lol

:cry he's only been back for two months clearly something is still wrong with him !!!!!! :cry

[baseline bum]

God damnit Chokeshaw

[JoeTait75]

All they'll do is question how the Indians managed to get home file advantage.

And bitch about Chief Wahoo.

[lefty20]

It's ok CK. At least you'll have Joe Buck to make you feel better in your hotel room tonight.

[midnightpulp]

The bitter truth is that K is not a 1. He may be a 2, most likely a 3, but, he is just not a 1. We're going to have to admit that and shove him down to 3, put Maeda & Urias under him and go and buy a 1 & 2.

Damn, we were up 2-1 in this series with 2 more in CA.. This is a shame.

Location. Location. Location.

CK's location, obviously due to pressure, seems to crash in the post-season. Throwing strikes isn't enough, you have to throw strikes in pinpoint locations with margins of error of less than 5". Kershaw seems incapable of doing that consistently in the playoffs. Contrast him with Hendricks, who is painting every area he needs to hit.

I knew we were outmatched this series, but the Dodgers choking asses didn't even make this game fun (unless you're a Cubs fan). I wanted to at least see some tight late innings shit and Wrigley's collective booty hole getting tight, but the Dodgers couldn't even do that. Fuckin' bums.

Anyhow, congrats Lefty20 and FkLA.

[Ball Buster]

Fuck Eddie Vedder and John Cusack

[lefty20]

Fuck Eddie Vedder and John Cusack

I'm sure Magic would love to, but no!

[Ball Buster]

I'm sure Magic would love to, but no!

Hur dur.. enjoy the win big boy. Cubs are obviously stacked team. Will be beating the tribe in 5

[lefty20]

Good shit Kyle! Would've loved to see him finish this 8th inning.

[Robz4000]

Congrats Cub fans

[lefty20]

Whew!

[baseline bum]

Ghosts of Steve Bartman vs Ghosts of Joe Table. The media will have a field day with this World Series.

[lefty20]

Anyhow, congrats Lefty20 and FkLA (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17213).


Congrats Cub fans

:toast

[lefty20]

All they'll do is question how the Indians managed to get home file advantage.

That blame falls squarely on Cueto's dancing ass.

[lefty20]

Who gets the mvp? JaVP, Lester, Addy or even Hendricks? All deserving, tbh.

[HI-FI]

Fuck Eddie Vedder and John Cusack
Sadly I like Cusacks work despite him being a huge douche in real life. Vedder is unbearable, ruins Pearl Jam for me.

Congrats Cub fans
This.

[JoeTait75]

Whew!

Congrats.

Tribe and Cubs in the World Series. Is this is a sign of the Apocalypse?

[Spurminator]

Man Theo Epstein has a hell of a resume now.

[lefty20]

Congrats.

Tribe and Cubs in the World Series. Is this is a sign of the Apocalypse?

As long as it comes after the World Series, tbh.

[midnightpulp]

Man Theo Epstein has a hell of a resume now.

Best GM in sports probably.

[lefty20]

Man Theo Epstein has a hell of a resume now.

If the Cubs win, he should be enshrined in the HoF the very next day. His plaque should read "The Cursebreaker" and nothing more needs be said, tbh.

[Spurminator]

The Rangers need to offer him $1B

[JoeTait75]

If the Cubs win, he should be enshrined in the HoF the very next day. His plaque should read "The Cursebreaker" and nothing more needs be said, tbh.

You could say the exact same thing about Tito, tbh.

[Kawhitstorm]

CK's location, obviously due to pressure, seems to crash in the post-season. Throwing strikes isn't enough, you have to throw strikes in pinpoint locations with margins of error of less than 5". Kershaw seems incapable of doing that consistently in the playoffs. Contrast him with Hendricks, who is painting every area he needs to hit.

Chokeshaw is the Chris Paul of Beisbol, folks wrongly compare him to Peyton Manning who actually has beaten Brady multiple times & won a title as the best player on the team.

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao Kerchoke

[Clipper Nation]

Chokeshaw is the Chris Paul of Beisbol, folks wrongly compare him to Peyton Manning who actually has beaten Brady multiple times & won a title as the best player on the team.

When did Fivehead ever do that? Not in 2006, when the defense dragged him to it. Not last year, when he was a TOSB and the defense dragged him to it.

[midnightpulp]

Chokeshaw is the Chris Paul of Beisbol, folks wrongly compare him to Peyton Manning who actually has beaten Brady multiple times & won a title as the best player on the team.

Yep. And the Dodgers are the fuckin' Clippers of baseball.

I didn't expect to win this series, but the Dodgers weren't even competitive over the last 3 games. Fuckin' put up a 3 hitter in an elimination game.

[lefty20]

You could say the exact same thing about Tito, tbh.

Touche.

[Clipper Nation]

Yep. And the Dodgers are the fuckin' Clippers of baseball.

No way. The Dodgers have actually won championships. The Rangers are the Clippers of baseball.

[midnightpulp]

No way. The Dodgers have actually won championships. The Rangers are the Clippers of baseball.

:lol

[Kawhitstorm]

When did Fivehead ever do that? Not in 2006, when the defense dragged him to it. Not last year, when he was a TOSB and the defense dragged him to it.

Pey-Pey scorched Billacheat's defense in the second half of the '06 AFC championship game which was essentially the SB:

CZG1WpsOB4E

If anyone was carried, it was Brady in 2001.:wakeup

[midnightpulp]

Cubs also pitched a poor man's perfect game against the Dodgers :lmao

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cva5yR6WgAATAWO.jpg

Now onto basketball season. Can't wait to see the comedy the Spurs will have in store for us this season. 70 wins and a first round exit?

[Robz4000]

No way. The Dodgers have actually won championships. The Rangers are the Clippers of baseball.

Rangers have been to the big dance though. I think the Nationals are a better comparison.

[Robz4000]

Cubs also pitched a poor man's perfect game against the Dodgers :lmao

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cva5yR6WgAATAWO.jpg

Now onto basketball season. Can't wait to see the comedy the Spurs will have in store for us this season. 70 wins and a first round exit?

Prolly miss the playoffs imo

[lefty20]

That pic of Hendricks is sick, btw. You'd never be able guess the score by looking at his face. Dude's got pure ice in his veins.

[Thread]

Man Theo Epstein has a hell of a resume now.

So does Tim Duncan:::

Thief
Cuckhold
Homosexual
Monetary misfit
Clothes horse (ass section)

[lefty20]

So does Tim Duncan:::

Thief
Cuckhold
Homosexual
Monetary misfit
Clothes horse (ass section)

I'm wondering if Lester the molester called Kirby for any pointers b4 raping the Dodger in LA, tbh.

[Thread]

I'm wondering if Lester the molester called Kirby for any pointers b4 raping the Dodger in LA, tbh.

You've nary room. Your Neal raped as well.

[Ed Lover]

Kershaw has an axe wound

[lefty20]

You've nary room. Your Neal raped as well.

Yeah but he don't live in LA, tbh.

[Thread]

Location. Location. Location.

CK's location, obviously due to pressure, seems to crash in the post-season. Throwing strikes isn't enough, you have to throw strikes in pinpoint locations with margins of error of less than 5". Kershaw seems incapable of doing that consistently in the playoffs. Contrast him with Hendricks, who is painting every area he needs to hit.

I knew we were outmatched this series, but the Dodgers choking asses didn't even make this game fun (unless you're a Cubs fan). I wanted to at least see some tight late innings shit and Wrigley's collective booty hole getting tight, but the Dodgers couldn't even do that. Fuckin' bums.

Anyhow, congrats Lefty20 and FkLA (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17213).

& where was the fire today? Christ, he was going a mile a minute. A fuckin' mess.

We didn't take a hold of it at 2-1. That was our moment to put them under our thumb. Roberts grabbed the Manual and went step-by-step.

By the time we finally got back to K we/he was under ELE & wanted no part of it.

Total loss, but, some highlights:::

*Gonzalez being a thorough professional.
*Turner tipping his cap several times to the opposition (once even here Vs. the D'Backs). It warmed the cockles.
*Puig getting banished---& rising again.
*The lineup coming together and the roster stretching to meet it.

[Clipper Nation]

Pey-Pey scorched Billacheat's defense in the second half of the '06 AFC championship game at Gillette which was essentially the SB:

CZG1WpsOB4E

If anyone was carried, it was Brady in 2001.:wakeup
Fivehead threw only 3 TDs to 7 INTs in the playoffs that year. His playoff passer rating that season was lower than any other Super Bowl "winning" QB. His defense dragged him to it by only giving up 16.3 PPG in the playoffs.

[Kawhitstorm]

Fivehead threw only 3 TDs to 7 INTs in the playoffs that year. His playoff passer rating that season was lower than any other Super Bowl "winning" QB. His defense dragged him to it by only giving up 16.3 PPG in the playoffs.

Big Dummy, he went up against the top 3 defenses that season: Ravens/Cheatriots/Bears along w/ the Chiefs who had a very good pass defense that season.

He outplayed Brady & dragged the Colts to victory after an 18 point deficit, the 18-point comeback remains the biggest in an NFL championship game.

Pey-Pey vs. Brady: 3-2
You: Mad!

[Clipper Nation]

Big Dummy, he went up against the top 3 defenses that season: Ravens/Cheatriots/Bears along w/ the Chiefs who had a very good pass defense that season.

He outplayed Brady & dragged the Colts to victory after an 18 point deficit, the 18-point comeback remains the biggest in an NFL championship game.

Pey-Pey vs. Brady: 3-2
You: Mad!
Isn't Fivehead supposed to be the greatest ever, according to his dickriders? I don't care about how good the defenses were - if he was as good as advertised, he'd have made something happen instead of riding his defense.

I don't care what his record is against Brady. Brady's a faggot too. Both of them are nothing compared to the true GOAT QBs.

[Kawhitstorm]

Isn't Fivehead supposed to be the greatest ever, according to his dickriders? I don't care about how good the defenses were - if he was as good as advertised, he'd have made something happen instead of riding his defense.

I don't care what his record is against Brady. Brady's a faggot too. Both of them are nothing compared to the true GOAT QBs.

Five Heads ISN'T the best ever (:lol) but he is more accomplished than Kerchoke. Pey-Pey pulled off the biggest comeback against "Mr. Clutch" Grady meanwhile Kerchoke got out-dueled by a minimum salary pitcher.

Montana/Steve Young are the two best SB winning QBs & I'll take Drew Brees over Pey-Pey/Grady.

[Obstructed_View]

Rangers have been to the big dance though. I think the Nationals are a better comparison.

Mariners.

[Robz4000]

Mariners.

Mariners have been to the WS too.

[Obstructed_View]

Mariners have been to the WS too.

Not saying you're wrong, but I haven't been able to find a source that agrees with you.

[Robz4000]

Not saying you're wrong, but I haven't been able to find a source that agrees with you.

Whoops, was thinking of Marlins

[JoeTait75]

Whoops, was thinking of Marlins

I can personally vouch for the Marlins having been in at least one World Series.

[Robz4000]

I can personally vouch for the Marlins having been in at least one World Series.

I mistook his mention of the Mariners as the Marlins.

[Trainwreck2100]

As much as I want to see the Cubs fall on their face, Cleveland sold their soul to Lebron so they can burn.

[lefty20]

I can personally vouch for the Marlins having been in at least one World Series.


hmm... I'm drawing a blank, tbh.

[Pelicans78]

I can personally vouch for the Marlins having been in at least one World Series.

Ouch.

[Obstructed_View]

Whoops, was thinking of Marlins

lol you really had me guessing there. I guess if you are counting the Expos' history, the Nats are probably worse than the Mariners, though everyone knows that the '94 Expos would have won it all.

[Chris]

Hard to pick who to root for. Since JoeTait seems to be a fine fellow I will back the Indians. I heard a rumor the Wild Thing was going to make an appearance and throw out the first pitch. Go Tribe tbh :tu

[Thread]

I'd be great to see the Cubs & in association Media be denied here.

[lefty20]

Cubs are still the better team here. Although the gap is not as significant as it was vs Giants or Dodgers. Their bullpen and running game remains a concern, but their line up is essentially AAA lvl compared to ours. Better team should previal once again.

[JoeTait75]

The Indians are playing with house money. Not many people in and around Cleveland thought they'd be in the World Series, especially after the wave of injuries to their pitchers. In fact long-time Tribe beat reporter Paul Hoynes openly wrote them off after Carlos Carrasco got hurt.

http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2016/09/sept_17_the_day_cleveland_indi.html

So it's a pleasant surprise that they're here. As far as the Tribe's championship drought is concerned there isn't much pressure there, either. IMO the Tribe's drought has always been secondary to the overall civic sports drought. The year 1964 always had more meaning than the year 1948, and 1964 is dead and buried. If the Tribe wins it'll be amazing, but if they lose it won't be the end of the world. Just getting this far has been a great accomplishment.

FWIW I do think the Cubs have the superior team, but I won't pick against these Indians.

[Spurminator]

It's a win/win as far as I'm concerned. I just want to see a good series.

[lefty20]

Schwarbs rumored to DH. Cleveland better be on the lookout for them Schwarbombs.

[The Gemini Method]

Joe Tait is definitely anti-thesis to the Cleveland fanbase. I think him and m co-worker that is a diehard OSU fan, are good people. The others insufferable Cleveland type that yelp Us vs. The World and that Believeland junk are what makes me sorta pull for the Cubs. But I hope it's a good series.

[Robz4000]

Rooting for dem Injyuns, but as long as its a good series I'll be happy. Both fanbases deserve a championship, but the media's slurping of the Cubs has made it hard to root for them.

[lefty20]

Rooting for dem Injyuns, but as long as its a good series I'll be happy. Both fanbases deserve a championship, but the media's slurping of the Cubs has made it hard to root for them.

So, what you are saying is that you want to Cubs to win the chip so media moves on to find their next darlings. I'm ok with that.

[Robz4000]

So, what you are saying is that you want to Cubs to win the chip so media moves on to find their next darlings. I'm ok with that.

I just can't stand it when anyone and everyone goes to ridiculous lengths to cheer for a team, generally from large markets. The Cubs are likeable enough, but this buzz reminds me too much of the love the Warriors and Seacucks receive; good for their large fanbases but annoying for the rest of us.

[lefty20]

I just can't stand it when anyone and everyone goes to ridiculous lengths to cheer for a team, generally from large markets. The Cubs are likeable enough, but this buzz reminds me too much of the love the Warriors and Seacucks receive; good for their large fanbases but annoying for the rest of us.

I agree in general about how media going in ham on a team can be annoying to the fans of other teams. But these Cubbies are absolutely nothing like Dray, Klay and Steph.

iirc Bryant had his historic 5-5(3 dingers 2 double) game on the road at the Reds. Since the stadium was pretty much packed with Cubs fans, he got an unmistakable curtain call invitation that he basically refused to even acknowledge. Now imagine someone like Steph or Dray in that situation. Hell even Harper would milked the shit out a moment like that.

Lackey is prolly the only Cub that I can't even stand. Especially when he stares down hitters after giving up homers or key hits. I don't understand how pitcher feel like they have the right to be upset at bat-flips and a hitter admiring his ball flight when all they gotta do is pitch better to not let it happen.

[Robz4000]

I agree in general about how media going in ham on a team can be annoying to the fans of other teams. But these Cubbies are absolutely nothing like Dray, Klay and Steph.

iirc Bryant had his historic 5-5(3 dingers 2 double) game on the road at the Reds. Since the stadium was pretty much packed with Cubs fans, he got an unmistakable curtain call invitation that he basically refused to even acknowledge. Now imagine someone like Steph or Dray in that situation. Hell even Harper would milked the shit out a moment like that.

Lackey is prolly the only Cub that I can't even stand. Especially when he stares down hitters after giving up homers or key hits. I don't understand how pitcher feel like they have the right to be upset at bat-flips and a hitter admiring his ball flight when all they gotta do is pitch better to not let it happen.

Nah, the Cubs themselves are a good bunch; no problem with them. Just don't like all the ridiculous coverage when there are other teams around.

[Clipper Nation]

Go Tribe, tbh. If the Indians win, it just furthers LeBron's GOAT legacy even more. The Kang made CLEVELAND win again. :wow :worthy: