Could ST be wrong about Klay Thompson

[resistanze]

Is this thread going to track every box score like the Curry thread? :lol

[Ice009]

This is the Moore/Coulter defense. Klay isn't Kerr and Kawhi isn't Michael.

Klay's not a better offensive player. Case and thread closed.

[djohn2oo8]

Is this thread going to track every box score like the Curry thread? :lol

Probably. Because some people love being insecure.

[lefty]

Worriers :lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

klay thompson is nothing more then a overglorified reddick

[FkLA]

This is the Moore/Coulter defense. Klay isn't Kerr and Kawhi isn't Michael.

And Klaynus isn't Usain Bolt but that didn't stop you from making that dumbass comparison, tbh.

[spurraider21]

Why would they? They need interior defense.thats makes no sense. thats like saying the spurs wouldnt trade parker for cp3 because they need interior defense

[DMC]

And Klaynus isn't Usain Bolt but that didn't stop you from making that dumbass comparison, tbh.

So you agree the Kerr/Jordan analogy was pretty fucking stupid.

[Ice009]

So you agree the Kerr/Jordan analogy was pretty fucking stupid.

It was an extreme example to hammer a point home into the thick skulls of some of the posters here. I was trying to get that nail through the thick skulls and into the small brains of the people that think Klay it a better offensive player based on shooting.

[DMC]

It was an extreme example to hammer a point home into the thick skulls of some of the posters here. I was trying to get that nail through the thick skulls and into the small brains of the people that think Klay it a better offensive player based on shooting.

So then Kawhi is a better offensive player than Curry.

[Benoit]

lmao djohn2008 owned this thread

Spurs fans are so insecure about the Dubs and Kobe

[Ice009]

So then Kawhi is a better offensive player than Curry.

Stupid question. Curry's a much more versatile offensive player than Thompson. Curry's not just a shooter. He can dribble the ball at a high level, penetrate, dish, he's a more complete versatile offensive player. He just also happens to be a great shooter on top of that.

[DMC]

Stupid question. Curry's a much more versatile offensive player than Thompson. Curry's not just a shooter. He can dribble the ball at a high level, penetrate, dish, he's a more complete versatile offensive player. He just also happens to be a great shooter on top of that.

But is he more versatile than Kawhi? Would he still be in the league if he couldn't hit the 3? Happens to be? That's his calling card. He's a 3pt shooter. :lmao

[Ice009]

But is he more versatile than Kawhi? Would he still be in the league if he couldn't hit the 3? Happens to be? That's his calling card. He's a 3pt shooter. :lmao

He's still much more versatile than Klay. I haven't watched Curry play much this season. Last season he was better clearly better than Kawhi, not sure about this season though. Kawhi has upped his game and from the looks of it, Curry has gone down a bit with Durant there. I will have to watch some of his games to answer that, but unfortunately i hate watching the Warriors play. I don't like that style of ball, so maybe if I can force myself to watch some of their games, I'll answer that question later.

[DMC]

He's still much more versatile than Klay. I haven't watched Curry play much this season. Last season he was better clearly better than Kawhi, not sure about this season though. Kawhi has upped his game and from the looks of it, Curry has gone down a bit with Durant there. I will have to watch some of his games to answer that, but unfortunately i hate watching the Warriors play. I don't like that style of ball, so maybe if I can force myself to watch some of their games, I'll answer that question later.

Good, because the question isn't whether Curry is better than Klay on offense. It's whether Klay is better than Kawhi on offense. If assisted baskets don't count, and 3pt shooting is graded on a curve, then you'd have to consider Steph a shooter first and a scorer second. He's noted for shooting, as we all know.

[FkLA]

UPDATE
Kawhi (40 games): 25.1 PPG on 49/41/91 shooting
Klaynus (42 games): 21.1 PPG on 47/39/84 shooting


:cry but klaynus scored 60 that one time :cry

[140]

:lol

[Raven]

btw, gaymond green's incapability to defend quality scoring centers is pretty obvious.

[DMC]

UPDATE
Kawhi (40 games): 25.1 PPG on 49/41/91 shooting
Klaynus (42 games): 21.1 PPG on 47/39/84 shooting


:cry but klaynus scored 60 that one time :cry

DeRozan better than Lebron and Kawhi... based on your reasoning :lol

3rd option vs 1st option :lol

The Westbrook principle :lol

Career averages :lol

[Kawhitstorm]

UPDATE
Kawhi (40 games): 25.1 PPG on 49/41/91 shooting
Klaynus (42 games): 21.1 PPG on 47/39/84 shooting


:cry but klaynus scored 60 that one time :cry

Klay also stat pads against garbage team while Kawhi has set career highs against Dominos/LeBitch.:lol

[Kawhitstorm]

btw, gaymond green's incapability to defend quality scoring centers is pretty obvious.

Got sonned by Biyombo.:lmao

[FkLA]

DeRozan better than Lebron and Kawhi... based on your reasoning :lol

3rd option vs 1st option :lol

The Westbrook principle :lol

Career averages :lol

He's a first option on an elite team, Klay isn't. He averages more points and has better percentages across the board. That's my reasoning.

WTF is your reasoning for Klaynus not only being better but in your words 'much better', moron?

[DAF86]

What about djohn2oo8, tbh?

[DMC]

He's a first option on an elite team, Klay isn't. He averages more points and has better percentages across the board. That's my reasoning.

WTF is your reasoning for Klaynus not only being better but in your words 'much better', moron?

Answer the questions.

Is DeRozan better than Steph or Durant? Is Isaiah Thomas better than James Harden, Lebron, Steph and Kawhi? His PPG "right now" would suggest so.

So state your case, why is KL a better scorer "right now" than Klay Thompson?

[FkLA]

Answer the questions.

Is DeRozan better than Steph or Durant? Is Isaiah Thomas better than James Harden, Lebron, Steph and Kawhi? His PPG "right now" would suggest so.

So state your case, why is KL a better scorer "right now" than Klay Thompson?

Do you not know how to read faggot? I stated my case. State yours.

As for the rest of your shit post, I'll just copy my other post since you're basically spewing the same nonsense in both threads:


LeBron coasts at this point in his career, you've said that yourself. He has a scoring title under his belt. Steph and KD have recent scoring titles as well. The most Klaynus has ever averaged is 22.1 PPG. If I ignore your stupid attempt at a deflection, it's because it's stupid not because you have me cornered, dumbfuck.

[FkLA]

And let's not ignore the fact that you said Klaynus is a 'much better offensive player'. I see you trying to move the goalposts by just using the term scorer now.

Offensive player would encompass playmaking, another aspect in which Kawhi, despite not being elite at it, is superior than Klaynus. And the fact that you said much better? Wow. Yet in the face of all that you still think you're right and acting pompous/arrogant to boot. :lol

[apalisoc_9]

And let's not ignore the fact that you said Klaynus is a 'much better offensive player'. I see you trying to move the goalposts by just using the term scorer now.

Offensive player would encompass playmaking, another aspect in which Kawhi, despite not being elite at it, is superior than Klaynus. And the fact that you said much better? Wow. Yet in the face of all that you still think you're right and acting pompous/arrogant to boot. :lol

He's just a hipster fatass trying to be "different" let him feel superior brah..only time he gets joy in his life as fat lard.

[DMC]

And let's not ignore the fact that you said Klaynus is a 'much better offensive player'. I see you trying to move the goalposts by just using the term scorer now.

Offensive player would encompass playmaking, another aspect in which Kawhi, despite not being elite at it, is superior than Klaynus. And the fact that you said much better? Wow. Yet in the face of all that you still think you're right and acting pompous/arrogant to boot. :lol

:lol

This whole time you've used PPG as evidence and you used it again yesterday.

Above, you moved the goal posts and used double standards several times.

1. Other players coasting (not needing to score suddenly relieves someone of the onus of offense, unless you're name is Klay)
2. 3rd option (Klay)
3. Playmaking (now assists are important, ignore the fact someone has to score to get one)
4. Career averages (Klay's is higher)

So here are your options:

1. Shit
2. Go blind

[FkLA]

:lol

This whole time you've used PPG as evidence and you used it again yesterday.

Above, you moved the goal posts and used double standards several times.

1. Other players coasting (not needing to score suddenly relieves someone of the onus of offense, unless you're name is Klay)
2. 3rd option (Klay)
3. Playmaking (now assists are important, ignore the fact someone has to score to get one)
4. Career averages (Klay's is higher)

So here are your options:

1. Shit
2. Go blind

I'm not moving the goalposts at all, idiot. I have you dead to rights regardless. The reason I said that was to show how much shittier your original take actually was. In other words, I'm stomping on your head while you're on the ground not running from you. Fucking imbecile. :lol

[DMC]

I'm not moving the goalposts at all, idiot. I have you dead to rights regardless. The reason I said that was to show how much shittier your original take actually was. In other words, I'm stomping on your head while you're on the ground not running from you. Fucking imbecile. :lol

:lol declaring yourself the victor

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/004/130/bagdad-bob.jpg

You cannot decide if it's this year, last year, the average of all, the current PPG, the assists... because every time you think you have something I debunk it with the simple test of Isaiah Thomas/Steph Curry. You shot your own case down by calling Klay a 3rd option (4th originally, eventually he'll be 1st if you keep going) because that means he's not needed to score as much (same excuse you used for Lebron).

You have to first establish that the stat you're using means what you claim it means, and it cannot be exclusive to your point and disregarded when tested on others.

Did you skip statistics?

[FkLA]

:lol declaring yourself the victor

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/004/130/bagdad-bob.jpg

You cannot decide if it's this year, last year, the average of all, the current PPG, the assists... because every time you think you have something I debunk it with the simple test of Isaiah Thomas/Steph Curry. You shot your own case down by calling Klay a 3rd option (4th originally, eventually he'll be 1st if you keep going) because that means he's not needed to score as much (same excuse you used for Lebron).

You have to first establish that the stat you're using means what you claim it means, and it cannot be exclusive to your point and disregarded when tested on others.

Did you skip statistics?

Now you're trying to make a connection between LBJ coasting and Klaynus being a third option? Who does that? :lol

Enough of your little shitty deflections. State your case for Klaynus being a much better offensive player.

[DMC]

Now you're trying to make a connection between LBJ coasting and Klaynus being a third option? Who does that? :lol

Neither is required to completely carry the team. Both would have higher averages if they were. So only rational people who understand relationships and stats. Besides, "coasting" is just a euphemism for "lower ppg as 1st option". You've had some bullshit excuse for every caveat you've used.


Enough of your little shitty deflections. State your case for Klaynus being a much better offensive player.

You've ignored everything I've listed.

Higher career average
More career points (in same time span)
record for points in a quarter
60 points in 29 minutes
Higher career game total points
3rd option still averaging 21ppg
KL was basically 1st option last year and averaged 21ppg.
Everyone ahead of him in ppg is basically a 1a or 1b option on their team.

[FkLA]

Neither is required to completely carry the team. Both would have higher averages if they were. So only rational people who understand relationships and stats.

Except for the simple fact that one does it for preservation. The other because he's not capable of more. One's career high average is 30 PPG, the other's 22 PPG. Stop being so damn stupid.



You've ignored everything I've listed.

Higher career average
More career points (in same time span)
record for points in a quarter
60 points in 29 minutes
Higher career game total points
3rd option still averaging 21ppg
KL was basically 1st option last year and averaged 21ppg.
Everyone ahead of him in ppg is basically a 1a or 1b option on their team.

All that and yet he's never in his life averaged what Kawhi is averaging. Currently, is averaging 4 less PPG on worse percentages.

How does that happen if he's much better offensively?

[FkLA]

Also:



record for points in a quarter
60 points in 29 minutes
Higher career game total points



Faggots like you love to cherry pick games to say you're right

[unleashbaynes]

Hmm lets see.

Kawhi, 1 finals MVP

Faggot, 0 Finals MVPs



Hmmmmmmmmmmm

[ElNono]

ST is never wrong, tbqh

[DMC]

Except for the simple fact that one does it for preservation. The other because he's not capable of more. One's career high average is 30 PPG, the other's 22 PPG. Stop being so damn stupid.


That's your opinion. Klay has never been the 1st option. You really think Klay Thompson can't average more per game than he's averaging as a 3rd option? Doesn't just saying that make you feel even more stupid? Just look at Kawhi's numbers to see how stupid that is, comparing his "formative" years to his 1st option years.


All that and yet he's never in his life averaged what Kawhi is averaging. Currently, is averaging 4 less PPG on worse percentages.

He's never been 1st option. You said it yourself, Klay is 3rd option and was 2nd at best last year when Kawhi was 1st and still Klay matched him in ppg.


How does that happen if he's much better offensively?
Not 1st option on offense. How many times do we have to go down this road? Last time Klay had 30 (33) shots in a game he scored 60 pts. Leonard's personal best is 41pts on 30 shots.

A guy who has shown he can score that fast as to set a single quarter record and put in 60pts in 29 minutes, that's a scorer. Leonard is a good scorer as well, but this is the 1st season he's taken that much of a scoring load onto his shoulders, and we're not even at the break and you're already proclaiming him better offensively than Klay.

[DMC]

Hmm lets see.

Kawhi, 1 finals MVP

Faggot, 0 Finals MVPs



Hmmmmmmmmmmm

That would also go for Steph Curry, ergo Tony Parker > Steph Curry.

Kawhi = AI

Both have Finals MVPs.

[UZER]

ST is never wrong, tbqh

Of course not. Both sides of an argument are always presented...usually by an alt.

[unleashbaynes]

That would also go for Steph Curry, ergo Tony Parker > Steph Curry.

Kawhi = AI

Both have Finals MVPs.

Tony Parker has had a better career than that chucker, and the AI argument is retarded considering he doesn't even start and has never had a season like Kawhi is having right now, tbh.

[DAF86]

And let's not ignore the fact that you said Klaynus is a 'much better offensive player'. I see you trying to move the goalposts by just using the term scorer now.

Offensive player would encompass playmaking, another aspect in which Kawhi, despite not being elite at it, is superior than Klaynus. And the fact that you said much better? Wow. Yet in the face of all that you still think you're right and acting pompous/arrogant to boot. :lol

He doesn't think he's right; in fact, he knows he was wrong. He just has a pathological problem that doesn't allow him to accept he was wrong, tbh.

[Killakobe81]

He doesn't think he's right; in fact, he knows he was wrong. He just has a pathological problem that doesn't allow him to accept he was wrong, tbh.


Sounds like Trump it worked for him ...now he is president. Admitting you are wrong is overrated:lol

[DMC]

Tony Parker has had a better career than that chucker, and the AI argument is retarded considering he doesn't even start and has never had a season like Kawhi is having right now, tbh.

It's not even AS break yet some of you are proclaiming KL as being a better offensive player than Klay with half a season worth of data and KL as the 1st option while Klay is now the 3rd option.

Last year in the playoffs Klay averaged over 24ppg as the 2nd option. Kawhi averaged 22ppg as the 1st option. If KL could have averaged 24 instead of 22, perhaps San Antonio, not the Thunder, faces GS. Klay went off on the Thunder and fueled one of the greatest comebacks of all time. Some of you seem to think every time he does something like that it's a fluke.

Look at the list of players in NBA history who have scored 60 in a game. Now point out which ones weren't great offensive players. Next find how many have scored 30 in a quarter. Again..

[unleashbaynes]

Must be extremely difficult to score when Steph is having an all time season and everyone is paying attention to him.

Meanwhile Kawhi has the responsibility of guarding every team's best player and still manages to score efficiently. When was the last time Thompson went for 30+ in 6 straight games?


It's not about volume. It's about consistency. Which Kawhi has proven that he can do.

[DMC]

Must be extremely difficult to score when Steph is having an all time season and everyone is paying attention to him.

Meanwhile Kawhi has the responsibility of guarding every team's best player and still manages to score efficiently. When was the last time Thompson went for 30+ in 6 straight games?


It's not about volume. It's about consistency. Which Kawhi has proven that he can do.

This sounds like progress of a kind. You at least admit that it was easy for Klay to score. No one is saying Klay is a better player than Kawhi, that would be stupid. He's far from it. However he's a better offensive player than Kawhi meaning he can put points on the board faster than Kawhi. You cannot ignore the fact that the Spurs have LMA, Pau, David Lee and Danny Green, all offensive threats, and they have Tony Parker who is still somewhat a small threat (though no small). Then you have Murray scoring 24 points as a rookie PG. What allowed that? Was it the fact that everyone else sprinting back enables the PG to have single coverage that he can step around?

It's about the ability to produce both volume and consistency. Averaging 24ppg in the playoffs when you went 7 games in the Finals is pretty good. Kawhi never averaged that many in the playoffs and in fact he's only averaged higher than Klay this year, for half a season, as a 1st option while Klay is a 3rd option (as stated multiple times by Fkla). 3rd option doesn't mean you don't have anyone defending you. It means 3rd option on offense, meaning plays are necessarily created for you.

Some here see Klay as a rich man's Gallanari as if all he does is shoot the spot up 3. Many of you haven't watched the games or if you have you only watch Steph and Durant. Klay is a hell of a scorer.

[DMC]

He doesn't think he's right; in fact, he knows he was wrong. He just has a pathological problem that doesn't allow him to accept he was wrong, tbh.
All of you move the goal posts any time I kick the ball.

You'll wait until you get some results from the season and say you were right, but what do you have right now that says you're right? Everything you've offered I've debunked by simply applying your reasoning to other situations. You use special pleading but I only work with facts.

[FkLA]

That's your opinion. Klay has never been the 1st option. You really think Klay Thompson can't average more per game than he's averaging as a 3rd option? Doesn't just saying that make you feel even more stupid? Just look at Kawhi's numbers to see how stupid that is, comparing his "formative" years to his 1st option years.

Wait, so you bitch because I use 'only half a season' to show that Kawhi is a superior offensive player yet you're playing the what-if game with your argument? So IF Klaynus was capable of being a first option (he isn't) he would average more points, his percentages would go up and be as good or better than Kawhi's, and his team wouldn't be Love's Timberwolves all because you say so? :lol

Also stop with your shitty attempts at trying to correlate things in order to boost your shit argument. The reason Kawhi is a much better scorer now compared to his formative years is because of how much he's grown as a player (bad shooter out of college to elite NBA shooter now). Trying to attribute it to him becoming a first option in order to claim Klaynus would see a similar uptick is plain retarded.


He's never been 1st option. You said it yourself, Klay is 3rd option and was 2nd at best last year when Kawhi was 1st and still Klay matched him in ppg.

Another great example of you being intellectually dishonest because your argument is shit. Typically, a second or third option will see significantly less shots than a first option but that isn't the case in this comparison. Klaynus averaged more FGAs than Kawhi last year. He's averaging the same amount this year. Klaynus is also basically shooting the same amount as he was last year--he hasn't seen a drop-off because KD arrived. We've already gone over this.

I'm sure you'll also once again cry about FTAs, as if somehow it's Kawhi's fault that Klaynus isn't anywhere near as good at attacking the rim as he is.


Not 1st option on offense. How many times do we have to go down this road? Last time Klay had 30 (33) shots in a game he scored 60 pts. Leonard's personal best is 41pts on 30 shots.

Which is exactly why this comparison is retarded in the first place. You can't just give him the benefit of the doubt that he can be an efficient first option on an elite team like Leonard has already shown. :lol

Who were the opponents in Klay's 60 point game and Kawhi's 41 point game?


A guy who has shown he can score that fast as to set a single quarter record and put in 60pts in 29 minutes, that's a scorer. Leonard is a good scorer as well, but this is the 1st season he's taken that much of a scoring load onto his shoulders, and we're not even at the break and you're already proclaiming him better offensively than Klay.

It's hilarious that you just accused me of cherry picking the CLE game, yet you continue to cite two whole games for what is a scorer.

KD has never scored 37 in a quarter or scored 60 points ever much less in 29 minutes. Is Klaynus more of a scorer than him too?

[FkLA]

All of you move the goal posts any time I kick the ball.

You'll wait until you get some results from the season and say you were right, but what do you have right now that says you're right? Everything you've offered I've debunked by simply applying your reasoning to other situations. You use special pleading but I only work with facts.

You realize I can use your shitty strategy to 'debunk' your shitty argument too, right? I just don't do it because it's stupid and illogical, moron. :lol


Higher career average/More career points (in same time span)- Kemba Walker has a higher career average as well. Is he a better scorer than Kawhi too?
record for points in a quarter- MJ never did it. Is KT a better scorer than MJ too?
60 points in 29 minutes-KD never did it. Is KT a better scorer than KD too?
Higher career game total points-KD has never scored 60. Is KT a better scorer than KD too?

Debunked! :cry
Dance for me some more! :cry

[DMC]

You realize I can use your shitty strategy to 'debunk' your shitty argument too, right? I just don't do it because it's stupid and illogical, moron. :lol


Higher career average/More career points (in same time span)- Kemba Walker has a higher career average as well. Is he a better scorer than Kawhi too?
record for points in a quarter- MJ never did it. Is KT a better scorer than MJ too?
60 points in 29 minutes-KD never did it. Is KT a better scorer than KD too?
Higher career game total points-KD has never scored 60. Is KT a better scorer than KD too?

Debunked! :cry
Dance for me some more! :cry
1. It's your claim you're debunking, idiot :lol If career ppg doesn't matter, why does season ppg? :lol
2. No one ever did it, that's why it's a record :lol idiot
3. You're still screwing your own pooch :lol
4. Things you used to say KL was better you just debunked! :lol

You bumped these threads when KL scored 41 points in OT like it's never been done. :lol

[FkLA]

1. It's your claim you're debunking, idiot :lol If career ppg doesn't matter, why does season ppg? :lol
2. No one ever did it, that's why it's a record :lol idiot
3. You're still screwing your own pooch :lol
4. Things you used to say KL was better you just debunked! :lol

You bumped these threads when KL scored 41 points in OT like it's never been done. :lol

Wrong once again, moron:


Enough of your little shitty deflections. State your case for Klaynus being a much better offensive player.



You've ignored everything I've listed.


Higher career average
More career points (in same time span)
record for points in a quarter
60 points in 29 minutes
Higher career game total points
3rd option still averaging 21ppg
KL was basically 1st option last year and averaged 21ppg.
Everyone ahead of him in ppg is basically a 1a or 1b option on their team.

Debunked! :cry

[FkLA]

Also you seem to be too stupid to grasp the simple fact that a player can develop from a 7 PPG scorer to a 25 PPG scorer.

I'm not claiming rookie Kawhi was a good offensive player. That's why this year matters and career PPG doesn't, dumbfuck.

[DMC]

Wait, so you bitch because I use 'only half a season' to show that Kawhi is a superior offensive player yet you're playing the what-if game with your argument? So IF Klaynus was capable of being a first option (he isn't) he would average more points, his percentages would go up and be as good or better than Kawhi's, and his team wouldn't be Love's Timberwolves all because you say so? :lol

Also stop with your shitty attempts at trying to correlate things in order to boost your shit argument. The reason Kawhi is a much better scorer now compared to his formative years is because of how much he's grown as a player (bad shooter out of college to elite NBA shooter now). Trying to attribute it to him becoming a first option in order to claim Klaynus would see a similar uptick is plain retarded.


:lol so now KL is a better shooter than Klay? He should enter the 3pt contest then!


Another great example of you being intellectually dishonest because your argument is shit. Typically, a second or third option will see significantly less shots than a first option but that isn't the case in this comparison. Klaynus averaged more FGAs than Kawhi last year. He's averaging the same amount this year. Klaynus is also basically shooting the same amount as he was last year--he hasn't seen a drop-off because KD arrived. We've already gone over this.

Last time he had 30 attempts he scored 60pts.


I'm sure you'll also once again cry about FTAs, as if somehow it's Kawhi's fault that Klaynus isn't anywhere near as good at attacking the rim as he is.

He doesn't need to attack the rim on that team. What about 3rd option don't you get?


Which is exactly why this comparison is retarded in the first place. You can't just give him the benefit of the doubt that he can be an efficient first option on an elite team like Leonard has already shown. :lol

Who were the opponents in Klay's 60 point game and Kawhi's 41 point game?

The opponents? lol... that matters! Klay played 29 fucking minutes! Leonard played 46! That's another quarter and a half to get 66% of the points! :lol

Now you're relegated to talking about the opponent as if everyone doesn't play the same teams.



It's hilarious that you just accused me of cherry picking the CLE game, yet you continue to cite two whole games for what is a scorer.

Like Kobe's 81pt game or MJ's 69pt game? Klay could have scored 75+ if he was left in. He has multiple 40pt games, at least a couple 50pt games and that 60pt game. Holds the record for points in a quarter, most points under 30 minutes as well. These aren't easy things to do. Anyone who's ever posted those types of numbers is way up the list in scoring greats. Somehow you think Klay doesn't belong there but Leonard and his personal best 41 points on 30 shots in OT does. :lol

You'll use his defense to support your shitty take as well :lol



KD has never scored 37 in a quarter or scored 60 points ever much less in 29 minutes. Is Klaynus more of a scorer than him too?

:lol the b2b MVP isn't even the 1st option on that team
:lol like Leonard would be the 1st or even 2nd scoring option if you have Curry and Durant.

[DMC]

Also you seem to be too stupid to grasp the simple fact that a player can develop from a 7 PPG scorer to a 25 PPG scorer.

I'm not claiming rookie Kawhi was a good offensive player. That's why this year matters and career PPG doesn't, dumbfuck.

I'm sure they can develop like that. Is Kemba Walker a better scorer than Kawhi? :lol

Klay has multiple games better than KL's best game.

[FkLA]

:lol so now KL is a better shooter than Klay? He should enter the 3pt contest then!

Last time he had 30 attempts he scored 60pts.

He doesn't need to attack the rim on that team. What about 3rd option don't you get?

The opponents? lol... that matters! Klay played 29 fucking minutes! Leonard played 46! That's another quarter and a half to get 66% of the points! :lol

Now you're relegated to talking about the opponent as if everyone doesn't play the same teams.

Like Kobe's 81pt game or MJ's 69pt game? Klay could have scored 75+ if he was left in. He has multiple 40pt games, at least a couple 50pt games and that 60pt game. Holds the record for points in a quarter, most points under 30 minutes as well. These aren't easy things to do. Anyone who's ever posted those types of numbers is way up the list in scoring greats. Somehow you think Klay doesn't belong there but Leonard and his personal best 41 points on 30 shots in OT does. :lol

You'll use his defense to support your shitty take as well :lol


:lol the b2b MVP isn't even the 1st option on that team
:lol like Leonard would be the 1st or even 2nd scoring option if you have Curry and Durant.

Seriously, this is your rebuttal? Cherry pick a sentence here or there, make comments that have absolutely nothing to do with what you're quoting, act pompous afterwards. Just take the L, bro. :lol

[FkLA]

I'm sure they can develop like that. Is Kemba Walker a better scorer than Kawhi? :lol

What does that even mean, moron?


Klay has multiple games better than KL's best game.


Faggots like you love to cherry pick games to say you're right

lol

[DMC]

What does that even mean, moron?





lol

Citing best games isn't cherry picking a game to "say" something. The thread was dormant until Kawhi had his best scoring output, then you bumped it. That's cherry picking when to try to prove your point. Of course someone is going to use existing stats in an ongoing discussion, dipshit. Bumping one when you think you're all clear is queer though.

[DMC]

Seriously, this is your rebuttal? Cherry pick a sentence here or there, make comments that have absolutely nothing to do with what you're quoting, act pompous afterwards. Just take the L, bro. :lol


UPDATE
Kawhi (40 games): 25.1 PPG on 49/41/91 shooting
Klaynus (42 games): 21.1 PPG on 47/39/84 shooting


:cry but klaynus scored 60 that one time :cry

:lol you bumping this thread
:lol getting your shit pushed in on the fly

[FkLA]

Citing best games isn't cherry picking a game to "say" something. The thread was dormant until Kawhi had his best scoring output, then you bumped it. That's cherry picking when to try to prove your point. Of course someone is going to use existing stats in an ongoing discussion, dipshit. Bumping one when you think you're all clear is queer though.

I bumped it to make fun of you some more after what you said upstairs. The post was an update on their numbers, didn't even mention the 41-point game. That one game is far from the reason why he's a better offensive player than Klaynus, moron.

[FkLA]

:lol you bumping this thread
:lol getting your shit pushed in on the fly

No mention of the 41-point game. Even make fun of using a game as a reasoning for who's better at the bottom.

Literally has no argument and yet still claims victory and acts pompous. :lol

[DMC]

I bumped it
:lol

After KL's 41 point break out performance.

[DMC]

No mention of the 41-point game.

Just odd coincidence you did it just after the game :lol

[FkLA]

I did do it after his 41-point game so what? It's not like at any point I've claimed that is my basis for why he's better.

Let's not get sidetracked by focusing on your dumbass attempts to deflect again though. Proven first option, more PPG, better efficiency. That's my argument. Yours is that IF Klaynus was capable of being first option he'd do much better than what Kawhi is doing. You're a joke. :lol

[DMC]

I did do it after his 41-point game so what?

:lmao

[spursistan]

823579704494063617

The most overrated player in the league by a country mile..sickening that this niglet is going to be an All Star..

[Clipper Nation]

DMC getting his shit pushed in even worse than Dumbjohn ITT.

[FkLA]

:lmao


Let's not get sidetracked by focusing on your dumbass attempts to deflect again though. Proven first option, more PPG, better efficiency. That's my argument. Yours is that IF Klaynus was capable of being first option he'd do much better than what Kawhi is doing. You're a joke. :lol

lol moron acting pompous

[FkLA]

823579704494063617

The most overrated player in the league by a country mile..sickening that this niglet is going to be an All Star..

:cry 60 in 29 mins & 37 in 1Qtr tho :cry

[DMC]

DMC getting his shit pushed in even worse than Dumbjohn ITT.

How's those division banners doing?

[Clipper Nation]

How's those division banners doing?
http://i.imgur.com/suaROav.jpg

[DMC]

http://i.imgur.com/suaROav.jpg

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2015/08/22/0822-taylor-swift-banner-twitter-4.jpg

[Clipper Nation]

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2015/08/22/0822-taylor-swift-banner-twitter-4.jpg
Some people have chunky thighs while others are stuck with fat hands. Fat-deposit spots on the body are preordained from birth. Although most people wish there was an instant magic solution, such as spot reduction, losing fat in any part of your body takes time and effort. Set some short-term goals and stick to them -- you'll be dropping a ring size soon.

[DMC]

Some people have chunky thighs while others are stuck with fat hands. Fat-deposit spots on the body are preordained from birth. Although most people wish there was an instant magic solution, such as spot reduction, losing fat in any part of your body takes time and effort. Set some short-term goals and stick to them -- you'll be dropping a ring size soon.

My hands will be skeletons before you get a banner in Staples :lol

[FkLA]

Some people have chunky thighs while others are stuck with fat hands. Fat-deposit spots on the body are preordained from birth. Although most people wish there was an instant magic solution, such as spot reduction, losing fat in any part of your body takes time and effort. Set some short-term goals and stick to them -- you'll be dropping a ring size soon.

He claims he's not fat though IIRC. :lol

[DMC]

He claims he's not fat though IIRC. :lol

:lol rent free

[FkLA]

:lol rent free

:lol fat hands

[Fat Hands]

:lol fat hands

:nope

[DMC]

:lol fat hands


:nope

:lol legendary status

[FkLA]

:lol legendary status

lol bragging about your fat hands being legendary

[140]

:lol 3-of-16
:lol 36% from the field in the playoffs
:lol 33% from 3

[lefty]

:lol 3-of-16
:lol 36% from the field in the playoffs
:lol 33% from 3
Today's NBA, better shooters and more wide open looks


Yep

[ambchang]

The guy who really suffered in the Durant trade is actually Klay. He no longer get the touches a shooter needs. That and him also being a choke artist. Klay is like the modern day Shawn Marion (with a much much better shooting form of course), overrated defensively, no real go to plays, get shut down with any defensive attention.

[Fat Hands]

but he better than Kawhi

[apalisoc_9]

but he better than Kawhi

Nice :lol

Is registration open again? Might be time for TDMVP to make a new account.

[AlexJones]

Need to get rid of him ASAP.. McCaw will take over some of the scoring and they don't need him taking shots away from Curry and KD.

[Bynumite]

His shot is not there right now but you can't deny his 1 on 1 defense is some of the best in the league. Great D in game 1.

[LkrFan]

His shot is not there right now but you can't deny his 1 on 1 defense is some of the best in the league. Great D in game 1.

871441431466045440

He's their Danny Green :lol

[LkrFan]

but he better than Kawhi

DMC, is this your alt? :lol

[DMC]

DMC, is this your alt? :lol

When you have followers you get this kind of shit.

[DMC]

I'd take Klay in SA no problem. I wonder if GS needs a fat headed guy who can "slow the tempo" on the break.

[LkrFan]

When you have followers you get this kind of shit.

:lmao

[DMC]

:lmao

Yeah it's fuckin' hilarious.

[Clipper Nation]

I'd take Klay in SA no problem. I wonder if GS needs a fat headed guy who can "slow the tempo" on the break.

Geez, you'd think someone with fat hands would be more empathetic towards someone with a fat head.

[Down Under]

His D this postseason is a fluke against poor competition. He's been terrible on that end for the past 2 seasons including the postseasons.

[DMC]

Geez, you'd think someone with fat hands would be more empathetic towards someone with a fat head.

You'd think a Clipper fan could find a Clipper forum.

[Bynumite]

Bump

:wakeup

30 points in Cleveland

[DAF86]

Rich man Danny Green, tbh.

Klay > Kawhi :lmao

[DMC]

Rich man Danny Green, tbh.

Klay > Kawhi :lmao

Puts points up faster. Learn to comprende english you jungle born motherfucker

[whitemamba]

Klay taking a giant shit on the haters in this thread

[DMC]

I said to you we would reconnoiter in June. It's not June.

It's June

[DMC]

Holla at me when he doesn't get locked up by JR Smith.:lol

HEY!!!!!!

[DAF86]

Puts points up faster. Learn to comprende english you jungle born motherfucker

Oh, now is "puts points up faster" :lmao

[FkLA]

Klay taking a giant shit on the haters in this thread

Nobody ever said he sucks. Just overrated af and definitely not on Kawhichael's level--on either side of the ball.

He's great for what he is though. Even when he was slumping his defense is always there.

[whitemamba]

Nobody ever said he sucks. Just overrated af and definitely not on Kawhichael's level--on either side of the ball.

He's great for what he is though. Even when he was slumping his defense is always there.

take it like a man, well done.

872846443257753600

where is Kawhi?

[ambchang]

take it like a man, well done.

872846443257753600

where is Kawhi?

You know what +/- works right?

You understand why 3 of those 5 are on the same team, right?

[whitemamba]

You know what +/- works right?

You understand why 3 of those 5 are on the same team, right?

no one cares about those 3 guys, we are talking about klay and kawhi

[Kyle Orton]

Once klay gets cucked enough to his liking, he and kiwi would be a pretty nice duo tbh

[DMC]

You think he's a better offensive player than Kawhi, don't you?

lol idiot


I think he can put points on the board faster than Kawhi. Kawhi can probably get you a bucket from more positions. It depends on how you cherry pick the meaning of the term "offensive player".

If you had both on the same team, which would you want catching and shooting the 3? Which would you think would have the most points at the end of the night most of the time given the same number of touches?


Oh, now is "puts points up faster" :lmao

Goddamn you're fucking stupid. You're about half a chromosome from being traded for repeating rifles and saddle blankets at a fort in West Texas, just so you know.

[FkLA]

That's homerism talking. It's the same way people put Kobe in the top 5 all time over at LG.com. Kawhi is probably the best defender in the league, still. He's not even close to being the best offensive player in the league. Klay is a much better offensive player than Kawhi, right now. That could change based on KL's work ethic and the amazing results he gets from his effort, but right now, he's too inconsistent to be considered a great offensive player. He's good, no doubt, but Klay can carry a team on offense. KL cannot. He can do well some times, but he can never do Klay level good.


But you're a Bernie guy. It's understandable you'd be easily misled.

I meant put up points faster though. :cry

[FkLA]

You know what +/- works right?

You understand why 3 of those 5 are on the same team, right?

Donkey is better than Duncan and Curry is better than MJ, tbh.

[DMC]

I meant put up points faster though. :cry

It's right there in the quote above you "It depends on how you cherry pick the meaning of the term 'offensive player'" that was posted before the one you quoted.

You lost. It's June, you lost, get used to it, anchor baby.

[FkLA]

"He was averaging 13 PPG on 35% shooting all playoffs but he showed up these last two. I win! Take that you cherry picking anchor baby!"

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/526/891/d0e.jpg

:lmao

[FkLA]

And Ive told you that you are too fat to slither your way out of calling Klay a much better offensive player. You also called him more consistent. Said he can carry a team offensively. All stupid statements.

[DMC]

And Ive told you that you are too fat to slither your way out of calling Klay a much better offensive player. You also called him more consistent. Said he can carry a team offensively. All stupid statements.
:lol Klay carried his team to the Finals past the same Thunder team that Kawhi choked against. He carried them against the Rockets.

What do you think "carried" means? (Hint, nothing to do with a bag of beans or a gallon of water)

[FkLA]

:lol Klay carried his team to the Finals past the same Thunder team that Kawhi choked against. He carried them against the Rockets.

What do you think "carried" means? (Hint, nothing to do with a bag of beans or a gallon of water)

:lol you fat idiot

A few good games or even a good series doesn't mean a guy is capable of carrying a team offensively throughout a prolonged period of time. Klay isnt the first or last non-superstar to come up huge in a big playoff game. Horry won Game 5 against Detroit. Pre-superstar Kawhi did it against Miami. If Klay played as well as he did the last few games against OKC or these last two games against CLE consistently then you'd have a point, you fat moron.

[DMC]

:lol you fat idiot

A few good games or even a good series doesn't mean a guy is capable of carrying a team offensively throughout a prolonged period of time. Klay isnt the first or last non-superstar to come up huge in a big playoff game. Horry won Game 5 against Detroit. Pre-superstar Kawhi did it against Miami. If Klay played as well as he did the last few games against OKC or these last two games against CLE consistently then you'd have a point, you fat moron.

It's June. Reap it.

[FkLA]

"He had two good games in The Finals. I win!"

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/526/891/d0e.jpg

[DMC]

You've been reduced again to spamming a meme like a 9 year old.

Viva la Mexico

[FkLA]

"Those two games by Klay sure showed that be@ner!"

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/526/891/d0e.jpg

[ambchang]

no one cares about those 3 guys, we are talking about klay and kawhi

And yet you pull a metric as if to prove something when the metric you showed proved nothing.

[DAF86]

Goddamn you're fucking stupid. You're about half a chromosome from being traded for repeating rifles and saddle blankets at a fort in West Texas, just so you know.

My negro FkLA beat me to the punch.

:lol dumb motherfucker

[DMC]

My negro FkLA beat me to the punch.

:lol dumb motherfucker

:cry Manu >>> MJ

[DAF86]

Wow, such an intelligent and will breaking response. :wow





























Dumb motherfucker :lol

[Fat Hands]

When you have followers you get this kind of shit.

So are you saying you have fat hands?

[DMC]

He's heating up, he's on fire! Klay Thompson and the truth about the hot hand

http://scores.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/presents-19573519/heating-fire-klay-thompson-truth-hot-hand-nba

Interesting article about the "hot hand".

Seems obvious to NBA fans however. Something you can control isn't random. It all relies on your ability to control it, which is different for different people.

[DAF86]

I cited Klay years ago as being the guy in GS. Me.


That's homerism talking. It's the same way people put Kobe in the top 5 all time over at LG.com. Kawhi is probably the best defender in the league, still. He's not even close to being the best offensive player in the league. Klay is a much better offensive player than Kawhi, right now. That could change based on KL's work ethic and the amazing results he gets from his effort, but right now, he's too inconsistent to be considered a great offensive player. He's good, no doubt, but Klay can carry a team on offense. KL cannot. He can do well some times, but he can never do Klay level good.


But you're a Bernie guy. It's understandable you'd be easily misled.

":cry b...but... but it was about who puts up pts faster :cry"

Also DMC and djohn2oo8 get all the shit but others like Raven and 313 had some pretty awful takes on this one as well, tbh. :lol

[Raven]

":cry b...but... but it was about who puts up pts faster :cry"

Also DMC (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665) and djohn2oo8 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870) get all the shit but others like Raven (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=35860) and 313 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43150) had some pretty awful takes on this one as well, tbh. :lol

liiiiike....? i'm pretty sure klay is winning his second title, so i'm not sure how exactly can someone say something bad about his play...

[Clipper Nation]

He's heating up, he's on fire! Klay Thompson and the truth about the hot hand

http://scores.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/presents-19573519/heating-fire-klay-thompson-truth-hot-hand-nba

Interesting article about the "hot hand".

Seems obvious to NBA fans however. Something you can control isn't random. It all relies on your ability to control it, which is different for different people.
He's eating up, his weight gets higher! DMC and the truth about the fat hand

[140]

:lol

[DAF86]

liiiiike....? i'm pretty sure klay is winning his second title, so i'm not sure how exactly can someone say something bad about his play...

Like these:


as I was saying for a while, he's the 2nd best defender at the position, after LDN. While that may not mean much, it makes him better than the like of harden and it's really not close. Saying he can't create his own shot is weird, since he can basically pull up from half court and that would count as a good shot for him, otherwise you could say the same for Curry. Not creating for others is neither here nor there since he is not a pg and they have a boatload of ball dominant players anyway. He carried them by himself in the playoffs. In short, he is the mvp of the position.


i'd like to hear by what definition is he not a superstar..


yes, I don't agree with it. Seems a very convenient definition and if you'd take Harden or Davis over Klay then bad for you I guess..


why is being better or worse than KL any relevant in being a superstar? I mean guys like derrick rose and carmelo anthony are still considered superstars even though they suck. KL is a generational talent and very much a top 2 player in the world. Klay is probably about #7. Sounds superstar to me, especially when you consider him and curry carry the nba brand currently.

lol at a guy averaging 15 ppg, 2 apg and 40% from the field being a "superstar". :lmao

:lol His team doesn't even need him to ring
:lol "i'm pretty sure klay is winning his second title, so i'm not sure how exactly can someone say something bad about his play"
:lol Zaza is winning a ring too, I guess we can't say anything bad about his play either.

[DMC]

Like these:









lol at guy averaging 15 ppg, 2 apg and 40% from the field being a "superstar". :lmao

:lol His team doesn't even need him to ring
:lol "i'm pretty sure klay is winning his second title, so i'm not sure how exactly can someone say something bad about his play"
:lol Zaza is winning a ring too, I guess we can't say anything bad about his play either.

Manu = Jesus Christ

[DAF86]

Manu = Jesus Christ

That's a much better take than Klay > Kawhi, tbh. :lol

[DMC]

":cry b...but... but it was about who puts up pts faster :cry"

Also DMC and djohn2oo8 get all the shit but others like Raven and 313 had some pretty awful takes on this one as well, tbh. :lol

Why did you stop your bold emphasis right before the caveat emptor?

Someone who does that isn't an honest person.

When that was posted, it was December 2016. Kawhi had just come off losing to OKC in the 2nd round. Klay carried his team against OKC in the WCF and mounted a comeback down 3-1. Had Kawhi done that you'd be calling him the next Michael Jordan. Kawhi averaged more PPG than Kawhi in 2016 season.

Homers like you and salty faggots like CN don't know shit about basketball. You just want to be justified in your belief that your team has the better offensive player who just happens to lose to the same team that was beaten by a worse offensive player.

"I slipped" -John Turturro, Color of Money (or) Kawhi Leonard, 2016 2nd round.

[DMC]

That's a much better take than Klay > Kawhi, tbh. :lol

If that's what I said you'd be right but coming from someone who thinks a guy who never averaged 20ppg in his career could have carried a team in the NBA as the face of the franchise, it doesn't mean much.

[DAF86]

Why did you stop your bold emphasis right before the caveat emptor?

Someone who does that isn't an honest person.

When that was posted, it was December 2016. Kawhi had just come off losing to OKC in the 2nd round. Klay carried his team against OKC in the WCF and mounted a comeback down 3-1. Had Kawhi done that you'd be calling him the next Michael Jordan. Kawhi averaged more PPG than Kawhi in 2016 season.

Homers like you and salty faggots like CN don't know shit about basketball. You just want to be justified in your belief that your team has the better offensive player who just happens to lose to the same team that was beaten by a worse offensive player.

"I slipped" -John Turturro, Color of Money (or) Kawhi Leonard, 2016 2nd round.

Too bad you kept arguing for Klay > Kawhi this season too. :lol

Either way, "Klay is much better offensive option than Kawhi" was retarded even duirng 2016, so you have no chance to save face, tbh.

[DAF86]

If that's what I said you'd be right but coming from someone who thinks a guy who never averaged 20ppg in his career could have carried a team in the NBA as the face of the franchise, it doesn't mean much.

"I'm gonna throw a stupid, ambiguous line like 'puts up pts faster' to try and distract from the fact that I literally said: 'Klay is a much better offensive player than Kawhi'"

[DMC]

Too bad you kept arguing for Klay > Kawhi this season too. :lol

Either way, "Klay is much better offensive option than Kawhi" was retarded even duirng 2016, so you have no chance to save face, tbh.

:lol no

2016 playoffs

Kawhi 22ppg
Klay 24ppg

This is with Kawhi as basically 1b option behind Aldridge.

Revisionist history might suit you if your country harbored Nazis though, so I can understand your tendency to Baghdad Bob the forum, but nuh uh.

[Raven]

Like these:









lol at a guy averaging 15 ppg, 2 apg and 40% from the field being a "superstar". :lmao

:lol His team doesn't even need him to ring
:lol "i'm pretty sure klay is winning his second title, so i'm not sure how exactly can someone say something bad about his play"
:lol Zaza is winning a ring too, I guess we can't say anything bad about his play either.

he seems to be playing pretty good to me tbh

[DAF86]

he seems to be playing pretty good to me tbh

Well, you don't seem to be seeing pretty well then.

[DAF86]

:lol no

2016 playoffs

Kawhi 22ppg
Klay 24ppg

This is with Kawhi as basically 1b option behind Aldridge.

Revisionist history might suit you if your country harbored Nazis though, so I can understand your tendency to Baghdad Bob the forum, but nuh uh.

Yes:


DeRozan better than Lebron and Kawhi... based on your reasoning :lol

3rd option vs 1st option :lol

The Westbrook principle :lol

Career averages :lol


Answer the questions.

Is DeRozan better than Steph or Durant? Is Isaiah Thomas better than James Harden, Lebron, Steph and Kawhi? His PPG "right now" would suggest so.

So state your case, why is KL a better scorer "right now" than Klay Thompson?


:lol

This whole time you've used PPG as evidence and you used it again yesterday.

Above, you moved the goal posts and used double standards several times.

1. Other players coasting (not needing to score suddenly relieves someone of the onus of offense, unless you're name is Klay)
2. 3rd option (Klay)
3. Playmaking (now assists are important, ignore the fact someone has to score to get one)
4. Career averages (Klay's is higher)

So here are your options:

1. Shit
2. Go blind


Neither is required to completely carry the team. Both would have higher averages if they were. So only rational people who understand relationships and stats. Besides, "coasting" is just a euphemism for "lower ppg as 1st option". You've had some bullshit excuse for every caveat you've used.


You've ignored everything I've listed.

Higher career average
More career points (in same time span)
record for points in a quarter
60 points in 29 minutes
Higher career game total points
3rd option still averaging 21ppg
KL was basically 1st option last year and averaged 21ppg.
Everyone ahead of him in ppg is basically a 1a or 1b option on their team.


That's your opinion. Klay has never been the 1st option. You really think Klay Thompson can't average more per game than he's averaging as a 3rd option? Doesn't just saying that make you feel even more stupid? Just look at Kawhi's numbers to see how stupid that is, comparing his "formative" years to his 1st option years.

He's never been 1st option. You said it yourself, Klay is 3rd option and was 2nd at best last year when Kawhi was 1st and still Klay matched him in ppg.

Not 1st option on offense. How many times do we have to go down this road? Last time Klay had 30 (33) shots in a game he scored 60 pts. Leonard's personal best is 41pts on 30 shots.

A guy who has shown he can score that fast as to set a single quarter record and put in 60pts in 29 minutes, that's a scorer. Leonard is a good scorer as well, but this is the 1st season he's taken that much of a scoring load onto his shoulders, and we're not even at the break and you're already proclaiming him better offensively than Klay.

Those are just some of the examples of you arguing for Klay over Kawhi THIS season, there are many more.

[DMC]

:lol you just quoting random posts as if any of that is cohesive and germaine to the shitty point you're trying to push forward.

Hey dumb shit... the "no" was to this:

"was retarded even duirng 2016"

But great job spending an hour digging up unrelated text. Maybe you need to focus more on english comprehension.

[DMC]

Well, you don't seem to be seeing pretty well then.

Goddamn you're salty as fuck. You're sore that Manu is probably retiring have never led a team. The best athlete your country ever produced was a bench player.

[DAF86]

:lol you just quoting random posts as if any of that is cohesive and germaine to the shitty point you're trying to push forward.

Hey dumb shit... the "no" was to this:

"was retarded even duirng 2016"

But great job spending an hour digging up unrelated text. Maybe you need to focus more on english comprehension.

"An hour" :lol

I don't know how much time it takes you, but for people like me (a person without mental shortcomings) searching in this forum doesn't take more than 2 or 3 minutes, tbh. :lol

And yes, it was retarded arguing that "Klay was a much better offensive player than Kawhi" back in december of 2016 (proved by the fact that people smarter than you took a huge dump on your take with facts and sensible reasoning), and it is even more retarded to keep arguing it now, in 2017.

[DAF86]

Goddamn you're salty as fuck. You're sore that Manu is probably retiring have never led a team. The best athlete your country ever produced was a bench player.

The best athlete of my country is the GOAT of the most popular sport in the World, tbh. :lol

Anyway, this has nothing to do with Manu, stop trying to do what you always do by shifting focus from your retarded opinions, son. If you want people not remembering your stupid takes, maybe you should stop providing them all together, since they are usually pretty bad, tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

The best athlete of my country is the GOAT of the most popular sport in the World, tbh. :lol
LeBron is Argentinian?

[DAF86]

LeBron is Argentinian?

Basketball isn't the most popular sport in the World, tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

Basketball isn't the most popular sport in the World, tbh.
:lol Thinking povertyball is a sport

[DMC]

"An hour" :lol

I don't know how much time it takes you, but for people like me (a person without mental shortcomings) searching in this forum doesn't take more than 2 or 3 minutes, tbh. :lol

And yes, it was retarded arguing that "Klay was a much better offensive player than Kawhi" back in december of 2016 (proved by the fact that people smarter than you took a huge dump on your take with facts and sensible reasoning), and it is even more retarded to keep arguing it now, in 2017.

It's right there dude. Your previous post was "3 hours ago" and that long winded research "rent free" debacle was "2 hours ago". US math says that's 1 hour.

:lol proven by the fact that someone else said it...

Stupid Argie nationalist faggot

[DMC]

The best athlete of my country is the GOAT of the most popular sport in the World, tbh. :lol

Anyway, this has nothing to do with Manu, stop trying to do what you always do by shifting focus from your retarded opinions, son. If you want people not remembering your stupid takes, maybe you should stop providing them all together, since they are usually pretty bad, tbh.

:lol no

Popular /= best athlete.

[DAF86]

It's right there dude. Your previous post was "3 hours ago" and that long winded research "rent free" debacle was "2 hours ago". US math says that's 1 hour.

Right, because I have nothing better to do than spend the 24 hours of the day posting on an internet forum. The delay could have never been because I had other things to do, like actually working for a living. :lol

[DMC]

Right, because I have nothing better to do than spend the 24 hours of the day posting on an internet forum. The delay could have never been because I had other things to do, like actually working for a living. :lol

:lol you started around noon and it's fucking 8pm already. Idiot.

[DAF86]

:lol you started around noon and it's fucking 8pm already. Idiot.

So? :lol

[313]

":cry b...but... but it was about who puts up pts faster :cry"

Also DMC (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665) and djohn2oo8 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870) get all the shit but others like Raven (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=35860) and 313 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43150) had some pretty awful takes on this one as well, tbh. :lol
tbf Kawhi still hasn't scored 60 in three quarters or 37 in a quarter

[DAF86]

tbf Kawhi still hasn't scored 60 in three quarters or 37 in a quarter


So? :lol

[spurraider21]

:lol Thinking povertyball is a sport
you post about golf, bro

[FkLA]

tbf Kawhi still hasn't scored 60 in three quarters or 37 in a quarter

Nobody else has ever scored 37 in a quarter. Does that mean Thompson is the best offensive player ever? That's some shit reasoning, bro. :lol

[rasuo214]

Jordan never had 81 points in a game...

[DMC]

Jordan never had 81 points in a game...

Kobe was on par with Mike on offense for a couple years. Not so much on defense, teamwork, IQ, not raping... but he could have offed his on dad and saved a lawsuit. However Kobe's 81pt game came against a shit team in a meaningless game. Jordan never quit in the playoffs, and if Jordan had Shaq, he'd have 10 rings.

[DMC]

Nobody else has ever scored 37 in a quarter. Does that mean Thompson is the best offensive player ever? That's some shit reasoning, bro. :lol

:lol creates strawman (red)
:lol attacks it (green)

Just using Mexican colors to illustrate the utter desperation and stupidity of Flaker's schtick.

[FkLA]

Oh yeah I'm the desperate one. :lol

16-17 playoff numbers are even more lopsided.


2015-2016
Kawhi - 21.2 PPG, 1.40 PPS, 2.6 APG, 61.6 TS%, 50.6 FG%, 44.3 3PT%, 4.19 ORPM, 8.3 OWS, 5.5 OBPM, 26.0 PER, 25.8 USG%
Klaynus - 22.1 PPG, 1.28 PPS, 2.1 APG, 59.9 TS%, 47.0 FG%, 42.5 3PT%, 2.38 ORPM, 5.4 OWS, 2.9 OBPM, 18.6 PER, 26.3 USG%

but Klaynus being a much better offensive player is indisputable :cry
i bring stats and facts to my argument :cry



2015-2016 Playoffs
Kawhi - 22.5 PPG, 1.36 PPS, 2.8 APG, 59.7 TS%, 50.0 FG%, 43.6 3PT%, 82.4 FT%, 1.1 OWS, 7.4 OBPM, 116 ORTG, 28.1 USG%
Klaynus - 24.3 PPG, 1.28 PPS, 2.3 APG, 58.8 TS%, 44.4 FG%, 42.4 3PT%, 85.4 FT%, 1.9 OWS, 4.1 OBPM, 113 ORTG 28.0 USG%



2016-2017
Kawhi: 25.9 PPG, 48.3 FG%, 36.2 3PT%, 1.43 PPS, 8.3 OWS, 6.4 OBPM, 5.26 ORPM
Klaynus: 22.2 PPG, 47.1 FG%, 41.8 3PT%, 1.26 PPS, 3.8 OWS, 2.3 OBPM, 2.77 ORPM

[DMC]

:lol

[Raven]

hate to say i told you so..

[Clipper Nation]

Klaynus is healthier than Kawhi right now. He's still not a better player than Kawhi, though.

[UZER]

I’ve said it 100 times. Curry is allowed to do what he does with the freedom he does because Klay, the second best shooter in te NBA with a quicker release and height advantage, is on his team. Curry only needs an inch of space. Klay gives him a foot.

Without Klay, Curry would be roughed up and played way more physical than teams can now because Klay is always lurking.

[RsxPiimp]

it’s an organic relationship, true. klay’s ability to score in god mode in catch and shoot situations is unmatched. the warriors will have a very tough situation in 2 years. do they keep klay or draymond.

[DMC]

Klaynus is healthier than Kawhi right now. He's still not a better player than Kawhi, though.

No one said Klay was a better player, at least no one being serious. I said he's a better offensive player.

[DMC]

:lol

[FkLA]

This fat fuck loser still trying to save face on this shit take.

[DAF86]

This fat fuck loser still trying to save face on this shit take.

He prefers to remind everyone how dumb he is instead of letting this die. Really mind-boggling. :lol

[daslicer]

it’s an organic relationship, true. klay’s ability to score in god mode in catch and shoot situations is unmatched. the warriors will have a very tough situation in 2 years. do they keep klay or draymond.

You keep Klay easily over Draymond. Draymond's defense has gotten worse and he can easily be replaced by a decent big. Klay's skill set is almost impossible to replace. He was one of the GOAT shooters and has one of the quickest releases ever. He also gets 20 points a game without hardly any iso plays being run for him.

[DMC]

This fat fuck loser still trying to save face on this shit take.

Spurs getting their shit pushed in by this guy who needs all these assists all the time. How is Kawhi doing this year?

[Clipper Nation]

it’s an organic relationship, true. klay’s ability to score in god mode in catch and shoot situations is unmatched. the warriors will have a very tough situation in 2 years. do they keep klay or draymond.
You keep Klay, 100%. The Warriors can always find another scrub for the league/refs to manufacture into an "elite defender" like they did with Draymond.

[FkLA]

Spurs getting their shit pushed in by this guy who needs all these assists all the time. How is Kawhi doing this year?


This fat fuck loser still trying to save face on this shit take.

[phxspurfan]

Klay is a monster. He's easily a Hall of Famer in the mold of Ray Allen 2.0 but less annoying

[SpursforSix]

Spurs getting their shit pushed in by this guy who needs all these assists all the time. How is Kawhi doing this year?

https://yt3.ggpht.com/-0ikZtbuDeSc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/AdGzyETmbLU/s48-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg doin' fine...jus chillin'. oh yeah...my leg hurts

[140]

This fat fuck loser still trying to save face on this shit take.
:lol tbh

[140]

Klay is a monster. He's easily a Hall of Famer in the mold of Ray Allen 2.0 but less annoying
Ray was an actual dynamic scorer and a number 1 option in his heyday, Thompson is a rich mans Rip Hamilton tbh :lol

[spurraider21]

Klay right now is a better version of Boston Ray Allen, but he can't carry an offense like Seattle/Milwaukee Ray Allen

[daslicer]

You keep Klay, 100%. The Warriors can always find another scrub for the league/refs to manufacture into an "elite defender" like they did with Draymond.

:lol Pretty funny but true.

[DMC]

Klay right now is a better version of Boston Ray Allen, but he can't carry an offense like Seattle/Milwaukee Ray Allen

Neither can Kawhi Leonard.

[DMC]

:lol tbh

Well you know when you're supporting someone they must be wrong.

[spurraider21]

Neither can Kawhi Leonard.
well certainly not in his current physical state :lol

[DMC]

well certainly not in his current physical state :lol

Which is New York

Unless you mean a team of doctors and I think he can carry those just fine

[ambchang]

:lol getting outplayed by a 40 yo who came off the bench.

[SAGirl]

They should keep Klay. Raymond is overrated anyways.

[DMC]

:lol getting outplayed by a 40 yo who came off the bench.

A lot of people have been outplayed by Manu. There's no shame in it. In fact, most of the Spurs roster was outplayed by him.

[daslicer]

They should keep Klay. Raymond is overrated anyways.

It's interesting but I have been on other basketball boards the last few days and people are now starting to say that Raymond is super overrated and is not a legit all-star. I wonder how long it will take the mainstream media to figure it out that he's not a legit all-star player.

[Spurtacular]

They should keep Klay. Raymond is overrated anyways.

Klaynus as an individual talent is over-rated; but he is a great compliment to Durant and Curry.

[SAGirl]

Raymond is competitive and does a lot of dirty work for them, and he complements them well. He's in a perfect situation. They will miss him too if he leaves, but I have to agree that Klay's shooting is really special and makes them really tough to defend.

[Phenomanul]

Neither can Kawhi Leonard.

But he did... to the tune of 67 victories.

[DMC]

Klay right now is a better version of Boston Ray Allen, but he can't carry an offense like Seattle/Milwaukee Ray Allen


Neither can Kawhi Leonard.


well certainly not in his current physical state :lol


But he did... to the tune of 67 victories.

Philo got it. Pheno, not so much.

[140]

Wow, bold.

[DMC]

Klay once again with the offense.

Where's Kawhi?

[FkLA]

This fat fuck loser still trying to save face on this shit take.

[DMC]

FkLA running like fuck on this issue. Klay still being the offensive beast he is, carrying his team through the playoffs while Kawhi's pussy hurts somewhere in the Bronx.

[FkLA]

This fat fuck loser still trying to save face on this shit take.

[DMC]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yrInVooW8Tw/TvEnJkjCu4I/AAAAAAAAAKE/9F-BUtyOP2w/s1600/lalalala-listening.jpg

[DMC]

Kawhi beastin' on offense though, offending everyone in sight :lol

Meanwhile, Klay has 3.

[Carhanu]

Kawhi beastin' on offense though, offending everyone in sight :lol

Meanwhile, Klay has 3.

Spur fan talking shit about Klay right now. Just wait until Klay's free agency approaches next summer....Spur fan will be slurping dose Klay nuts lol! Not that it will do much good. Klay is too cool to be living in some backwoods holla like SA.

[Carhanu]

Kawhi beastin' on offense though, offending everyone in sight :lol

Meanwhile, Klay has 3.

Spur fan talking shit about Klay right now. Just wait until Klay's free agency approaches next summer....Spur fan will be slurping dose Klay nuts lol! Not that it will do much good. Klay is too cool to be living in some backwoods holla like SA.

[lefty]

Lmao Klay can't even dribble with both hands

[Carhanu]

Lmao Klay can't even dribble with both hands

He scored like 60 points wthout dribbling in one game. Dribbling is for shmucks. Who needs dribbling when you can just shoot over everyone lol.

[DMC]

Lmao Klay can't even dribble with both hands

That would be called carrying the ball, 3rd worlder.

[lefty]

I didn't mean at the same time, Murican

[lefty]

He scored like 60 points wthout dribbling in one game. Dribbling is for shmucks. Who needs dribbling when you can just shoot over everyone lol.
Lmao Craig Ehlo would have scored 80 pts if he waa that wide open
:lol today's NBA

[FkLA]

Why is fat boy bumping his terrible takes?

[DMC]

He's better than him on offense just by virtue of being the alpha on an elite team while Klay is a gamma. Him having better numbers is just insult to injury.



Why is fat boy bumping his terrible takes?

Thinking KL was ever alpha.

Fuck you're stupid. You'll do a 180 as soon as KL splits.

[FkLA]

Jesus christ you're a fat idiot.

[TDMVPDPOY]

kt gets a 80m shoe contract in china for acting like a monkey

while kl doesnt act like one but wants a shoe deal?... goto china and act like one, they will give u one...even if its a no name company


i wonder how much did marbury made from his shoe deal in china like 15bucks per shoe or someshit...if he made more then 5m a year just from those shoes? his winning

[Spurtacular]

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